Moderator note -was- Re: apology to the list. sorry!

[Cara Quinn]

Hello All,

Firstly a happy Halloween to you!

Okay so now on to list biz.

There has been some questionable activity here of late, including posting of 
mp3 links which are, put simply, not legal. This is to say that those who 
download these are pirating them.

I want you all to know that this sort of behavior is not tolerated here. -And, 
that we have a one-strike and you're out policy.

So, in future, be aware of this.

Simply put, if the material you're posting here on this list is not legally 
allowed to be shared with the general public then it's not allowed here.

This also goes for tips on use of software in ways that it's not intended to be 
used. I.E. the thread regarding using OSX on non-Mac machines etc.

The spirit of the law here is that this is not legal, and the letter of the law 
honestly isn't perfectly clear on this just yet, so as long as this is 
questionable in its legality, guess what, -It's off-limits here.

-So again, this is not welcome here and will not be tolerated.

So if you'd like to post something that you know is questionable or illegal, 
don't bother, if you'd like to stay on this list. :) -Know what I mean?

If you'd like to post something here that you're not sure about, I.E. if you 
aren't sure if it's acceptable, then by all means, write me and ask. You can 
get in touch at:

caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com

Now I'm sorry it's taken me this long to address these issues in the last few 
days, but quite honestly, y'all should know better! :) -Yes?…

So thanks for reading and please do keep the conversation legit, intelligent 
and relevant, K?

Ya'll rock and hope you've had a lovely / scary Hallown!!!

Screams!

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On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

I didn't see the original message, but I thought I should comment.

offering to help with software or offering to acquire software is not a 
copyright offense UNLESS there is an offer to acquire it illegally or crack it 
to bypass copyright protections. also, US copyright laws are usually not 
enforceable in other countries unless there is a treaty in effect. 

now the man sent an email to the list when it was supposed to be sent to a 
private individual. 

now, is it a violation of apple's EULA for me to run their OS on unsupported 
hardware. technically yes. However, since I purchased the OS X disk (retail 
from apple) and there is case law stating that apple cannot keep me from 
running said software on unsupported hardware, I am not technically in 
violation of the law.now, apple is not going to bring a case against me for 
this because it benefits them for me to do so (I debug drivers and find 
problems, which get reported to the apple dev team). this allows apple to 
better evaluate their code and make corrections or remove bugs.

also, there was a recent appellate court ruling that narrows the scope of DMCA, 
thus allowing me to be able to run the OS where I want it simply because I own 
the dvd upon which the OS installer files are placed. I am not a lawyer, so it 
is suggested that you check with one over any of the points made.

end of off topic post )and thread I hope).

-Eric

On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> What would you rather he do instead?
> 
> On 01/11/2011, Kristyn Leigh  wrote:
>> An apology is not sufficient for providing illegal versions of copyrighted
>> materials to anyone.  Perhaps the folks in the legal department at Audible
>> would like to respond to your offer.
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Guys, I posted a message to the list by accident a minute ago.
>>> I understand that it is impossible to take it bak, so please disregard it.
>>> 
>>> I am sorry, I meant to send this to another person.
>>> 
>>> Apologies.
>>> Nektarios.
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>> Sent from my mini Mac
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help alex really slow

[Rachel magario]

My MBP is to slow. Alex is slow sometimes takes 3 seconds to read what is on my 
cursor.
Other times sounds like a bad Skype connection. it will sort of eat the first 
word and speak the rest.
It is doing the thing that safari is busy, but is doing with every single 
application I have on and it is happening every 20 or 30 seconds. I cant do any 
manful work.

it improves when mail is off.
I verified my disk and reaper disk was not available.
Any ideas please?
Right now I am actually writing with no sound feedback, Alex just sort of went 
to sleep.
I am very busy with loads of dead lines and I can read.
Thank you.
Ah, and if I turn voice over off it works just fine for any sighted person. 
also I am still in snow in this computer.
Rachel

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Re: Speech Rate of Alerts in IChat?

[Teresa Cochran]

Actually I only use it for Facebook text chat and AIM. I'm sorry I can't help 
you with the other issues.

Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:19 PM, joseph wrote:

> hi, how accessible is ichat?  i had problems answering calls on snow leopard. 
>  is the screen sharing accessible?
> 
> best
> On 31 Oct 2011, at 16:07, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, guys,
>> 
>> I've noticed that the speech rate for alerts in IChat is quite slow, even 
>> for me. :) I'm wondering if there's a way to change it? I tried changing the 
>> rate in text-to-speech preferences in System Preferences, but there is no 
>> change.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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Re: Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Mike Arrigo]

Glad that worked, I actually leave plug ins disabled unless I know I will need 
flash, this will cause sites to provide an html version if possible which will 
read. Hopefully eventually html5 takes the place of flash and this is no longer 
an issue.
On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

> Well, Mike, That worked. I guess there's a reason for it all.
> 
> Thanks for the help from all,
> Kev
> 
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if there are 2 versions of the page, a flash and an html version, 
>> if the site is giving you the flash version on the mac, you won't see the 
>> buttons since adobe refuses to make flash accessible. You might try this, 
>> open safari preferences and go to the security tab, uncheck the option to 
>> enable plug ins, then go to the page in question.
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
>> 
>>> I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they 
>>> put up video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. 
>>> I can't access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does 
>>> anyone have an idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on 
>>> safari on the mac?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kev
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Re: Seri on the Mac?

[Jon Cohn]

Well, some of it is already there, and has been since before Voice Over, before 
OSX and possibly even before Steve Jobs was kicked out by the board.  
Macintoshes have had a speech recognition system.  It does not work as flexibly 
as Siri, but you can have it understand several hundred commands per an 
application and click on buttons automatically.  And yes, there is the ability 
to name your computer there.  The question really is how much more work is 
needed to understand more dialects and become less rigid in the clauses 
allowed.  I think the Macintosh Voice Regognition is based on the entire phrase 
while Siri appears to parse out the individual words and then do pattern 
matching on possible phrases.  The other significant thing about Siri is its 
ability to maintain  context. So, if it just fave you restaurants in Farmville, 
Va and you say how about in Roanoke it will reuse the previous category to run 
the query.and most of the voices on Tiger and Leopard except Alex came into 
existence on the Macintosh at the same time as Voice Recognition.
 
On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Yes! If this happens, giving the computer a name would be a nice feature. I 
> could imagine it being in system preferences.
> That way, if folks weren't creative, they could just say computer, but if we 
> had a name in mind, we could set that up. I
> think that should even be an option for the IOS version, but maybe it just 
> isn't practical.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seri on the Mac?
> 
> Well Star Trek here we come!
> Just do not say eject the core!
> So would people like the capability to name there Mac or just stick to 
> computer!
> I like the idea to say!
> Thor send email to Fred Blogs execute!
> Colin
> 
> On 24 Oct 2011, at 11:23, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Well you have guessed it, it will be part of Mac OS x 10.8 (Lynx) :)
>> 
>> Well I would not be surprised if Apple did licence more Nuance speech
>> to text stuff for the Mac, and perhaps some built in OCR so we can
>> read graphics and DVD menus just like JAWS 13
>> 
>> Let's hope VO gets a complete rewrite on the Mac though, the buffering is a 
>> joke.
>> 
>> Chris
>> On 24 Oct 2011, at 10:59, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey All,
>>> 
>>> What do you all reckon about having Seri on the Mac? I myself would love it.
>>> 
>>> Just imagine, rather than typing, dictating e-mails and more!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: uploading html code with accented letters

[Jon Cohn]

I would trust Chris on this, he does has more experience than I do... However, 
I would have expected that if the HTML  had indicated that the content-encoding 
was UTF-8 which I believe all Macintoshes use, then I would have expected the 
accented characters to be displayed correctly on the web page.

Jonathan

On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am happy to say that I was able to use terminal to upload files to ftp so 
> thanks for the tips.
> 
> I am running into a different problem however. I am trying to upload a htm 
> file containing accented letters. I saved in textedit. The characters are 
> displaying well in textedit but not on the web. I have tempo rarely removed 
> them but would love to find a solution for this. HOw do I even begin to 
> address this issue of encoding incompatibility?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Ioana
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Re: Track pad commander question

[Jon Cohn]

Well, one does not actually meed a script unless uou truely want to link "send" 
to the trackpad commandr.  If you want to re-map send to F3 it is fairly easy 
to do.

The below instructions are for Snow Leopard, if somebody needs me to test them 
in Lion I can do that.

1. Start system preferences.
2. switch to the keyboard panel. usually use the "view" menu for this)
3.select the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab.
4. Find the "Shortcut Categories" table and select "Application Shortcuts" 
(line 10 column 2 )
5.Tab the "Add an Application Shortcut" button 
6. In the new window there are three entry items. 
7. Select "Mail" from the pull down menu"
8. Type in "Send" (Capitalize the S  ) in the second field and then hit tab.
9. Tab a function key or modifier key and letter or function key. (In my case I 
used F3)
10. Hit tab again and hit enter.
11. Review the application shortcuts table to make sure you entered as expected.
12. Test it out in mail.

Best wishes,

Jonathan

  
On Oct 30, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

> Yes, would definitely be interested in such a script.
>  
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Johnny Angel!
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:50 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Track pad commander question
>  
> Hi John,
>  
> I too am interested.  How are you coming along with that script?
>  
> Thanks
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Jon Cohn wrote:
> 
> 
> There is a text recognition command to send the current e-mail.  I believe I 
> could set up the equivalent for you in an AppleScript if you want.
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:40 PM, bill holton wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi.
> So it looks like I would have to construct a macro to press the send key and 
> then assign a gesture to the macro?  I find the shift-command-d very awkward 
> at best.
>  
> On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>  
> Hi Bill!
> Unless a applescript can be made to do the send function [and I've no idea if 
> automation flow can do it either] but if a script can then you can add that 
> to a trackpad commander stroke!
> Colin
>  
> On 20 Oct 2011, at 21:27, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> no.  The track pad commander only performs voiceover commands. and the 
> opening of files or applications.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
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> www.mobileaccess.org
>  
> On Oct 20, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>  
> I have set up an activity for Mail, and I’m wondering if there is any way I 
> can set up a track commander gesture like command-flick right to do a menu 
> command like “send mail?”  Thanks.
>  
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Re: Speech Rate of Alerts in IChat?

[joseph]

hi, how accessible is ichat?  i had problems answering calls on snow leopard.  
is the screen sharing accessible?

best
On 31 Oct 2011, at 16:07, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> I've noticed that the speech rate for alerts in IChat is quite slow, even for 
> me. :) I'm wondering if there's a way to change it? I tried changing the rate 
> in text-to-speech preferences in System Preferences, but there is no change.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
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Re: Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Kevin Mattingly]

Well, Mike, That worked. I guess there's a reason for it all.

Thanks for the help from all,
Kev


On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> I wonder if there are 2 versions of the page, a flash and an html version, if 
> the site is giving you the flash version on the mac, you won't see the 
> buttons since adobe refuses to make flash accessible. You might try this, 
> open safari preferences and go to the security tab, uncheck the option to 
> enable plug ins, then go to the page in question.
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
> 
>> I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they put 
>> up video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. I 
>> can't access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does anyone 
>> have an idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on safari on the 
>> mac?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kev
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Re: Adium Enquiries

[Mike Arrigo]

Actually, voiceover always read the names for me, but if you get the newest 
beta, it solves a few voiceover issues, the empty thing is gone, and in a 
message window, it no longer says unknown, instead it says html content as it 
should.
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Gavin!
> I hope this will be of some help to you [It was for me]
> Colin
> 
> On 28 Oct 2011, at 21:40, Gavin wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys, me again.
>> 
>> Has anybody managed to get VoiceOver to speak the names of contacts in 
>> Adium's contacts table. All I hear is, "empty, empty, empty" when I scroll 
>> up and down. Is it the version of Adium I'm using? Or perhaps the services 
>> with which I'm using it? I have it connected to Facebook and MXit. I've got 
>> the latest Adium version, if that helps.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gavin
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Re: Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Mike Arrigo]

I wonder if there are 2 versions of the page, a flash and an html version, if 
the site is giving you the flash version on the mac, you won't see the buttons 
since adobe refuses to make flash accessible. You might try this, open safari 
preferences and go to the security tab, uncheck the option to enable plug ins, 
then go to the page in question.
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

> I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they put 
> up video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. I 
> can't access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does anyone 
> have an idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on safari on the 
> mac?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kev
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RE: A Sister's Eulogy for Steve Jobs - NYTimes.com

[Allison Mervis]

That was beautiful.

  _  

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Subject: A Sister's Eulogy for Steve Jobs - NYTimes.com



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-job
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A Sister's Eulogy for Steve Jobs


I grew up as an only child, with a single mother. Because we were poor and
because I knew my father had emigrated from Syria, I imagined he looked like
Omar Sharif. I hoped he would be rich and kind and would come into our lives
(and our not yet furnished apartment) and help us. Later, after I'd met my
father, I tried to believe he'd changed his number and left no forwarding
address because he was an idealistic revolutionary, plotting a new world for
the Arab people. 

Even as a feminist, my whole life I'd been waiting for a man to love, who
could love me. For decades, I'd thought that man would be my father. When I
was 25, I met that man and he was my brother. 

By then, I lived in New York, where I was trying to write my first novel. I
had a job at a small magazine in an office the size of a closet, with three
other aspiring writers. When one day a lawyer called me - me, the
middle-class girl from California who hassled the boss to buy us health
insurance - and said his client was rich and famous and was my long-lost
brother, the young editors went wild. This was 1985 and we worked at a
cutting-edge literary magazine, but I'd fallen into the plot of a Dickens
novel and really, we all loved those best. The lawyer refused to tell me my
brother's name and my colleagues started a betting pool. The leading
candidate: John Travolta. I secretly hoped for a literary descendant of
Henry James - someone more talented than I, someone brilliant without even
trying. 

When I met Steve, he was a guy my age in jeans, Arab- or Jewish-looking and
handsomer than Omar Sharif. 

We took a long walk - something, it happened, that we both liked to do. I
don't remember much of what we said that first day, only that he felt like
someone I'd pick to be a friend. He explained that he worked in computers. 

I didn't know much about computers. I still worked on a manual Olivetti
typewriter. 

I told Steve I'd recently considered my first purchase of a computer:
something called the Cromemco. 

Steve told me it was a good thing I'd waited. He said he was making
something that was going to be insanely beautiful. 

I want to tell you a few things I learned from Steve, during three distinct
periods, over the 27 years I knew him. They're not periods of years, but of
states of being. His full life. His illness. His dying. 

Steve worked at what he loved. He worked really hard. Every day. 

That's incredibly simple, but true. 

He was the opposite of absent-minded. 

He was never embarrassed about working hard, even if the results were
failures. If someone as smart as Steve wasn't ashamed to admit trying, maybe
I didn't have to be. 

When he got kicked out of Apple, things were painful. He told me about a
dinner at which 500 Silicon Valley leaders met the then-sitting president.
Steve hadn't been invited. 

He was hurt but he still went to work at Next. Every single day. 

Novelty was not Steve's highest value. Beauty was. 

For an innovator, Steve was remarkably loyal. If he loved a shirt, he'd
order 10 or 100 of them. In the Palo Alto house, there are probably enough
black cotton turtlenecks for everyone in this church. 

He didn't favor trends or gimmicks. He liked people his own age. 

His philosophy of aesthetics reminds me of a quote that went something like
this: "Fashion is what seems beautiful now but looks ugly later; art can be
ugly at first but it becomes beautiful later." 

Steve always aspired to make beautiful later. 

He was willing to be misunderstood. 

Uninvited to the ball, he drove the third or fourth iteration of his same
black sports car to Next, where he and his team were quietly inventing the
platform on which Tim Berners-Lee would write the program for the World Wide
Web. 

Mona Simpson is a novelist and a professor of English at the University of
California, Los Angeles. She delivered this eulogy for her brother, Steve
Jobs, on Oct. 16 at his memorial service at the Memorial Church of Stanford
University. 

Steve was like a girl in the amount of time he spent talking about love.
Love was his supreme virtue, his god of gods. He tracked and worried about
the romantic lives of the people working with him. 

Whenever he saw a man he thought a woman might find dashing, he called out,
"Hey are you single? Do you wanna come to dinner with my sister?" 

I remember when he phoned the day he met Laurene. "There's this beautiful
woman and she's really smart and she has this dog and I'm going to marry
her." 

When Reed was born, he began gushing and never stopped. He was a physical
dad, with each of his child

Re: apology to the list. sorry!

[Eric Oyen]

I didn't see the original message, but I thought I should comment.

offering to help with software or offering to acquire software is not a 
copyright offense UNLESS there is an offer to acquire it illegally or crack it 
to bypass copyright protections. also, US copyright laws are usually not 
enforceable in other countries unless there is a treaty in effect. 

now the man sent an email to the list when it was supposed to be sent to a 
private individual. 

now, is it a violation of apple's EULA for me to run their OS on unsupported 
hardware. technically yes. However, since I purchased the OS X disk (retail 
from apple) and there is case law stating that apple cannot keep me from 
running said software on unsupported hardware, I am not technically in 
violation of the law.now, apple is not going to bring a case against me for 
this because it benefits them for me to do so (I debug drivers and find 
problems, which get reported to the apple dev team). this allows apple to 
better evaluate their code and make corrections or remove bugs.

also, there was a recent appellate court ruling that narrows the scope of DMCA, 
thus allowing me to be able to run the OS where I want it simply because I own 
the dvd upon which the OS installer files are placed. I am not a lawyer, so it 
is suggested that you check with one over any of the points made.

end of off topic post )and thread I hope).

-Eric

On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> What would you rather he do instead?
> 
> On 01/11/2011, Kristyn Leigh  wrote:
>> An apology is not sufficient for providing illegal versions of copyrighted
>> materials to anyone.  Perhaps the folks in the legal department at Audible
>> would like to respond to your offer.
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Guys, I posted a message to the list by accident a minute ago.
>>> I understand that it is impossible to take it bak, so please disregard it.
>>> 
>>> I am sorry, I meant to send this to another person.
>>> 
>>> Apologies.
>>> Nektarios.
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Re: creating audio cd for the car

[Kristyn Leigh]

Thanks Esther!  I tried once and gave up without digging deep enough for the 
answer.  After the first disk, I had no idea how to split it to burn the next 
part.

Kristyn 
On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> To burn Audible books to audio CDs using iTunes, use Command+I to access the 
> Options tab of the Audible track and set the Start and Stop time boxes each 
> time before burning the next segment (e.g., 0:00 to 80:00, then 80:00 to 
> 160:00, etc.)  Audible suggests that you just adjust the start time, but if 
> you want, you can check the start and stop time locations to match natural 
> breaks with the RestartAt AppleScript from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads 
> web page:
> http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
> For example, I split a set of short stories so that the breaks would come at 
> the beginning and end of complete stories on the audio CD.
> Remember to turn these settings off when you're done, or your Audible track 
> will only play the section between the start time and the stop time that 
> you've set.  A bit more tedious than doing this with the app on the Windows 
> side.  
> 
> Here's the link to the help instructions on the Audible web site:
> 
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 09:10, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Say, ever burned an audible.com book to CD using ITunes?  I can't imagine 
>> how that's done.
>> 
>> When I looked up the instructions at audible, it seemed to me like you had 
>> to access stuff I reckoned we don't have access to.
>> 
>> For my audio CD's, I just use either Simply Burns or Burn.
>> 
>> Great tools both of them; but, I found that with Burn, you need to take care 
>> to ensure that the files you are burning have 44.1 oversampling and 16 bit 
>> depth.  IF not, the files may play at half or double speed on the CD.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:
>> 
>>> thanks there had to be a way just knowing it. Gerry Cook
>>> cheers gerry
>>> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/11/2011, at 3:25 AM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Gerry,
 
 To make sure you burn an Audio CD, create your playlist in iTunes and 
 select it in the sources table. Then, after you use VO-M and navigate to 
 the "File" menu of iTunes and arrow down to the "Burn Playlist to Disc" 
 menu option, select the radio button for "Audio CD" as the format in the 
 dialog window. 
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Oct 31, 2011, at 01:19, Gerry Cook wrote:
 
> Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd 
> player, but when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of 
> the cd to a blank it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and 
> there was no music, and there seems no option in itunes once you've 
> ripped it in to your itunes library to burn it to a blank cd. Any help 
> would be appreciated, thanks.
> Gerry Cook
> cheers gerry
> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
> 
> 
 
> 
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Re: apology to the list. sorry!

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

What would you rather he do instead?

On 01/11/2011, Kristyn Leigh  wrote:
> An apology is not sufficient for providing illegal versions of copyrighted
> materials to anyone.  Perhaps the folks in the legal department at Audible
> would like to respond to your offer.
>
> On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>
>> Guys, I posted a message to the list by accident a minute ago.
>> I understand that it is impossible to take it bak, so please disregard it.
>>
>> I am sorry, I meant to send this to another person.
>>
>> Apologies.
>> Nektarios.
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Re: steve Jobs in 1994.

[Kristyn Leigh]

Last year a computer programmer from northern California told me he knows 
several folks at Apple. According to him, one of the programmers has a family 
member who is blind or visually impaired.  That is probably a more likely 
motivation for the beginnings of accessibility than one of Steve's personal 
visions.  If Jobs didn't like it, I'm sure he could have ended it.  

I liked the story about the first iMac with the button for a CD tray instead of 
the slot Steve expected.  The product launch was almost cancelled.

Kristyn 
On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Brian Miller wrote:

> Hi all,
> I actually don't think Jobs was as market driven in the classic sense -- I
> think he had a much more idiosyncratic commitment to his own vision,
> believing that the rest of the world would find it interesting if he did
> too.  I think he was about quality interfacing with the product, and that
> the kinds of products he created were meant to be, and are, paradigm
> changers -- Del computer, I think is a classic market driven model...
> Maximize market share by competitive pricing and driving down costs
> relentlessly.  Gateway too was like that.  Apple is not that way in my
> opinion... Macs and OS are still, what, at best 10% of the market, compared
> to PCs and Microsoft platforms.  Nevertheless, Jobs, through Apple, changed
> everything around this.  
> 
> This is why I think the Voice Over is much less a market decision than a
> product of the overall Jobs vision.  His adoptive father taught him to make
> the fence look nice, even on the side that no one would see.  That's not
> market economics, that aesthetics, and a different approach entirely to the
> classic model.  
> 
> Just my thoughts... Who knows?
> 
> It will be interesting to finally get the full story about Apple and
> accessibility.  Let's remember that Apple promised much, and delivered
> little, until suddenly it delivered everything.  
> 
> Brian M
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: steve Jobs in 1994.
> 
> Hi,
> Just a couple of comments, I have not read the bio yet.  Still the book is
> not a history of apple computers.  Instead its a bio from a father to his
> children so they understand him and why he made the time choices he did.
> As for Jobs involvement inaccessibility, bare in mind that there have been
> exactly two and only two screen readers for the mac, outspoken and
> voiceover.  for years outspoken did the job, and Jobs was intense about the
> proprietary nature of Apple.  That is why they were so expensive, and that
> was /is why they are built largely like tanks.  Nothing went into a mac that
> he did not want there, end of story.  No matter his motives, he saw a market
> and built for that market.  the market has been here for years, but no one
> saw it that way.
> just my two cents,
> Karen
> 
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thats true, but he would have done the exact same for any other 
>> feature of iOs - that won't have been exclusive to accessibility. I'm 
>> not saying that he didn't care about it all, but people talking about 
>> him as if he was some sort of missionary is a bit over the top imo; he 
>> won't have made voiceover out of the good of his heart, he will have 
>> done it because there was a market that the iPhone hadn't entered.
>> I do agree that they've done an amazing job with vo and I find it 
>> quite ironic that arguably the best phone for a blind person to 
>> purchase is one with a touch screen.
>> 
>> On 30/10/2011, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Another arguement i have from some other sources are that, 
>>> considering how "hand on" person he is, won't be surprise if he has a 
>>> major impack on their accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Regardless, does it matter? After all, come to the products, and the 
>>> products are useful, accessible, and become an essential in our life.
>>> 
>>> Considering how much Apple take on their Grapic approach, and how 
>>> much it can be also accessible, that prove something isn't it? After 
>>> all, who would have thought, graphics and accessibility can go 
>>> together hand in hand. 5 years ago, if you are blind, and tell 
>>> someone that you want a totally touch phone  they think you insane too.
>>> 
>>> I wonder what sort of biography will people like founders of Freedom 
>>> Scientific, Humanware, GWMicro, and so on gotta write? "Provide less 
>>> than satisfy accessible product, and sucking every bit of your money 
>>> out of your bank"?
>>> 
>>> On 30/10/2011, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There wasn't any mention of accessibility in the biography at all, 
 but then again, hardly any of the individual features of osx or iOs 
 were mentioned iether.
 The opinion that I have is that whilst he probably had litt

Re: apology to the list. sorry!

[Kristyn Leigh]

An apology is not sufficient for providing illegal versions of copyrighted 
materials to anyone.  Perhaps the folks in the legal department at Audible 
would like to respond to your offer.

On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

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> I understand that it is impossible to take it bak, so please disregard it. 
> I am sorry, I meant to send this to another person. 
> 
> Apologies.
> Nektarios.
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Re: Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Teresa Cochran]

I should clarify. The player controls are not accessible, but flash can be 
played if it starts up when the player is first loaded.

Teresa
"On the other hand, there are different fingers."

On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Gigi wrote:

> Hi Teresa. 
> I am confused about something here. You said Flash wasn't accessible. 
> However, my church has been using Flash Player from Adobe, and it works fine 
> under Lion, except my stupid Wi-Fi keeps cutting out, which is something I'll 
> need to take up with A T and T. However, is that the same thing you are 
> talking about? 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Kevin,
>> 
>> Do you know which players the site uses for media? If it uses strictly 
>> flash, it will not be very accessible on the Mac. You could possibly try 
>> going to the mobile version on your computer, which will most likely not 
>> contain flash.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
>> 
>>> I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they 
>>> put up video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. 
>>> I can't access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does 
>>> anyone have an idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on 
>>> safari on the mac?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kev
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Re: Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Gigi]

Hi Teresa. 
I am confused about something here. You said Flash wasn't accessible. However, 
my church has been using Flash Player from Adobe, and it works fine under Lion, 
except my stupid Wi-Fi keeps cutting out, which is something I'll need to take 
up with A T and T. However, is that the same thing you are talking about? 

Regards,
Gigi


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Kevin,
> 
> Do you know which players the site uses for media? If it uses strictly flash, 
> it will not be very accessible on the Mac. You could possibly try going to 
> the mobile version on your computer, which will most likely not contain flash.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
> 
>> I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they put 
>> up video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. I 
>> can't access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does anyone 
>> have an idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on safari on the 
>> mac?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kev
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RE: steve Jobs in 1994.

[Brian Miller]

LOL!  Exactly, and that's why I suggest that Apple under Jobs is not  a
classic market model, but as others have suggested, a new model entirely,
one that focuses not on the absolute lowest price at all costs, but a
quality experience.  As the 1985 article discussing the roll out of the
first MAC said, "You respect IMB, but you love your Apple."  

Brian M


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: steve Jobs in 1994.

When it comes to the quality v. quantity argument it is usually preceeded by
discussions implying market share as an indication of product fitness.
Obviously if there are more Windows boxes purchased, it must be better. I
also know that cockroaches far outnumber people on this planet.

CB

On 10/30/11 9:29 PM, Brian Miller wrote:
> Hi all,
> I actually don't think Jobs was as market driven in the classic sense 
> -- I think he had a much more idiosyncratic commitment to his own 
> vision, believing that the rest of the world would find it interesting 
> if he did too.  I think he was about quality interfacing with the 
> product, and that the kinds of products he created were meant to be, 
> and are, paradigm changers -- Del computer, I think is a classic market
driven model...
> Maximize market share by competitive pricing and driving down costs 
> relentlessly.  Gateway too was like that.  Apple is not that way in my 
> opinion... Macs and OS are still, what, at best 10% of the market, 
> compared to PCs and Microsoft platforms.  Nevertheless, Jobs, through 
> Apple, changed everything around this.
>
> This is why I think the Voice Over is much less a market decision than 
> a product of the overall Jobs vision.  His adoptive father taught him 
> to make the fence look nice, even on the side that no one would see.  
> That's not market economics, that aesthetics, and a different approach 
> entirely to the classic model.
>
> Just my thoughts... Who knows?
>
> It will be interesting to finally get the full story about Apple and 
> accessibility.  Let's remember that Apple promised much, and delivered 
> little, until suddenly it delivered everything.
>
> Brian M
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: steve Jobs in 1994.
>
> Hi,
> Just a couple of comments, I have not read the bio yet.  Still the 
> book is not a history of apple computers.  Instead its a bio from a 
> father to his children so they understand him and why he made the time
choices he did.
> As for Jobs involvement inaccessibility, bare in mind that there have 
> been exactly two and only two screen readers for the mac, outspoken 
> and voiceover.  for years outspoken did the job, and Jobs was intense 
> about the proprietary nature of Apple.  That is why they were so 
> expensive, and that was /is why they are built largely like tanks.  
> Nothing went into a mac that he did not want there, end of story.  No 
> matter his motives, he saw a market and built for that market.  the 
> market has been here for years, but no one saw it that way.
> just my two cents,
> Karen
>
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thats true, but he would have done the exact same for any other 
>> feature of iOs - that won't have been exclusive to accessibility. I'm 
>> not saying that he didn't care about it all, but people talking about 
>> him as if he was some sort of missionary is a bit over the top imo; 
>> he won't have made voiceover out of the good of his heart, he will 
>> have done it because there was a market that the iPhone hadn't entered.
>> I do agree that they've done an amazing job with vo and I find it 
>> quite ironic that arguably the best phone for a blind person to 
>> purchase is one with a touch screen.
>>
>> On 30/10/2011, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Another arguement i have from some other sources are that, 
>>> considering how "hand on" person he is, won't be surprise if he has 
>>> a major impack on their accessibility.
>>>
>>> Regardless, does it matter? After all, come to the products, and the 
>>> products are useful, accessible, and become an essential in our life.
>>>
>>> Considering how much Apple take on their Grapic approach, and how 
>>> much it can be also accessible, that prove something isn't it? After 
>>> all, who would have thought, graphics and accessibility can go 
>>> together hand in hand. 5 years ago, if you are blind, and tell 
>>> someone that you want a totally touch phone  they think you insane too.
>>>
>>> I wonder what sort of biography will people like founders of Freedom 
>>> Scientific, Humanware, GWMicro, and so on gotta write? "Provide less 
>>> than satisfy accessible product, and sucki

Re: creating audio cd for the car

[Adie]

Hi people,

So how would saving an Audible book to an SD card work? Would you be
able to do that without messing around with start times?

I'd would also like to copy a 13 hour radio series, which I have on
CD, to an SD card. My guess would be, from reading this conversation,
that I should make it into a playlist, but then what?

I'm pretty much of an iTunes dunce, so I hope the explanation is fit
for a three year old:)

Cheers

Adrienne

On Oct 31, 10:27 pm, Esther  wrote:
> Hi Ray,
>
> To burn Audible books to audio CDs using iTunes, use Command+I to access the 
> Options tab of the Audible track and set the Start and Stop time boxes each 
> time before burning the next segment (e.g., 0:00 to 80:00, then 80:00 to 
> 160:00, etc.)  Audible suggests that you just adjust the start time, but if 
> you want, you can check the start and stop time locations to match natural 
> breaks with the RestartAt AppleScript from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads 
> web page:http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
> For example, I split a set of short stories so that the breaks would come at 
> the beginning and end of complete stories on the audio CD.
> Remember to turn these settings off when you're done, or your Audible track 
> will only play the section between the start time and the stop time that 
> you've set.  A bit more tedious than doing this with the app on the Windows 
> side.  
>
> Here's the link to the help instructions on the Audible web site:
> 
>
> HTH.  Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 09:10, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Say, ever burned an audible.com book to CD using ITunes?  I can't imagine 
> > how that's done.
>
> > When I looked up the instructions at audible, it seemed to me like you had 
> > to access stuff I reckoned we don't have access to.
>
> > For my audio CD's, I just use either Simply Burns or Burn.
>
> > Great tools both of them; but, I found that with Burn, you need to take 
> > care to ensure that the files you are burning have 44.1 oversampling and 16 
> > bit depth.  IF not, the files may play at half or double speed on the CD.
>
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
>
> > Facebook:
> > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
> > On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:
>
> >> thanks there had to be a way just knowing it. Gerry Cook
> >> cheers gerry
> >> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>
> >> On 01/11/2011, at 3:25 AM, Esther wrote:
>
> >>> Hi Gerry,
>
> >>> To make sure you burn an Audio CD, create your playlist in iTunes and 
> >>> select it in the sources table. Then, after you use VO-M and navigate to 
> >>> the "File" menu of iTunes and arrow down to the "Burn Playlist to Disc" 
> >>> menu option, select the radio button for "Audio CD" as the format in the 
> >>> dialog window.
>
> >>> HTH.  Cheers,
>
> >>> Esther
>
> >>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 01:19, Gerry Cook wrote:
>
>  Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd 
>  player, but when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of 
>  the cd to a blank it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and 
>  there was no music, and there seems no option in itunes once you've 
>  ripped it in to your itunes library to burn it to a blank cd. Any help 
>  would be appreciated, thanks.
>  Gerry Cook
>  cheers gerry
>  gerryc...@optusnet.com.au

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Re: podcasts about podcasting?Re: (round table) podcasting on the mac?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi thanks a lot!
I will perform the needed research tomorrow.
Greetings, Anouk,
On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Anouk, Paul, and Others,
> 
> Take a look at  a podcast that Shane Jackson made about using Audio Hijack 
> Pro to hijack separate tracks:
> http://blindworldblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/small-review-of-audio-hijack-pro.html
> The direct link to the podcast, rather than his blog page is:
> http://www.shanejackson.net/Audio_Hijack_Demo.mp3
> 
> If you do a search of the Mail Archive site for this list by putting in 
> "from:Esther Anna Shane" or "from: Esther Anna podcast", you'll find my reply 
> to Anna Dresner with the above information:
> • Re: creating a teaching podcast
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06213.html
> If you read down the thread by using the Control+N access key combination, 
> you'll find a few mores suggestions, such as checking Dane's Blind Cool Tech 
> podcast on working with Amadeus Pro, with a listed time for the relevant 
> section, and other commenters with helpful suggestions.
> 
> Darcy Burnard has also posted some helpful podcasting tips.  I did a search 
> on "from:Darcy podcast* hijack*" without the quotation marks, but using the 
> asterisk wild cards and got:
> "Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack":
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg40029.html
> 
> Since he mentioned an AppleScript in that post, I used Control+N to read down 
> the thread and got to his post with the AppleScript:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg40036.html
> 
> I'll paste in the relevant section, for the AppleScript, but you should read 
> through the posts.  A pity that there is no Mail Archive set up for the 
> viphone list, since it makes archive searching way more efficient, but only 
> the list owner can implement that now.  I'm just glad that the original owner 
> of the macvisionaries list set this feature up, and that others who have set 
> up lists on Google Groups, such as the pro-audio list, have chosen to do the 
> same.
> 
> tell application "Audio Hijack Pro"
>set theSession to the first session whose name contains "Skype"
>tell theSession to start hijacking
>tell theSession to start recording
> end tell
> 
> HTH. I'm sure you can find more helpful details by exploring the Mail Archive 
> on your own. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 05:17, Anouk Radix wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> Well, Florian told me that it is possible to record a skype conversation 
>> using audio hijack pro and then edit it in garageband. or use soundflower 
>> (as a sort of virtual soundcard) and then directly stream it to garageband 
>> or amadeus pro.
>> I was wondering though for anyone who knows this are there any podcasts 
>> about podcasting and the associated softwarementioned above?
>> Thanks in advance for the information,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Anouk,
>>> I'm not a great multi people podcaster myself. So far I only did podcasts 
>>> with my usb microphone, but from what I know, when 2 people skype together, 
>>> they each record their own audio stream, so that it is of high quality, and 
>>> not of skype quality. I don't know how Kevin Ciao does it when he is being 
>>> interviewed by other people, but voiceover on, and similar podcasts that he 
>>> appears in, all sound great. I think Florian, also on this list, once told 
>>> me about each individual recording his her own voice, and then later 
>>> overlaying the tracks in amadeus. Hopefully an experienced podcaster will 
>>> comment on this. I'm interested in the details as well.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Paul.
>>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
 Me and a friend of mine would like to make our very first podcast and we 
 would like to do that on the mac. We communicate through skype, is there 
 an audio editing app that can record straight from skype or do i need to 
 use one program to record the conversation to record and another to edit? 
 I hear garageband or amadeus pro can both be used but can they record from 
 skype and what are the pros and cons of either?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: podcasts about podcasting?Re: (round table) podcasting on the mac?

[Esther]

Hi Anouk, Paul, and Others,

Take a look at  a podcast that Shane Jackson made about using Audio Hijack Pro 
to hijack separate tracks:
http://blindworldblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/small-review-of-audio-hijack-pro.html
The direct link to the podcast, rather than his blog page is:
http://www.shanejackson.net/Audio_Hijack_Demo.mp3

If you do a search of the Mail Archive site for this list by putting in 
"from:Esther Anna Shane" or "from: Esther Anna podcast", you'll find my reply 
to Anna Dresner with the above information:
• Re: creating a teaching podcast
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06213.html
If you read down the thread by using the Control+N access key combination, 
you'll find a few mores suggestions, such as checking Dane's Blind Cool Tech 
podcast on working with Amadeus Pro, with a listed time for the relevant 
section, and other commenters with helpful suggestions.

Darcy Burnard has also posted some helpful podcasting tips.  I did a search on 
"from:Darcy podcast* hijack*" without the quotation marks, but using the 
asterisk wild cards and got:
"Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack":
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg40029.html

Since he mentioned an AppleScript in that post, I used Control+N to read down 
the thread and got to his post with the AppleScript:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg40036.html

I'll paste in the relevant section, for the AppleScript, but you should read 
through the posts.  A pity that there is no Mail Archive set up for the viphone 
list, since it makes archive searching way more efficient, but only the list 
owner can implement that now.  I'm just glad that the original owner of the 
macvisionaries list set this feature up, and that others who have set up lists 
on Google Groups, such as the pro-audio list, have chosen to do the same.

tell application "Audio Hijack Pro"
set theSession to the first session whose name contains "Skype"
tell theSession to start hijacking
tell theSession to start recording
end tell

HTH. I'm sure you can find more helpful details by exploring the Mail Archive 
on your own. Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 31, 2011, at 05:17, Anouk Radix wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> Well, Florian told me that it is possible to record a skype conversation 
> using audio hijack pro and then edit it in garageband. or use soundflower (as 
> a sort of virtual soundcard) and then directly stream it to garageband or 
> amadeus pro.
> I was wondering though for anyone who knows this are there any podcasts about 
> podcasting and the associated softwarementioned above?
> Thanks in advance for the information,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Anouk,
>> I'm not a great multi people podcaster myself. So far I only did podcasts 
>> with my usb microphone, but from what I know, when 2 people skype together, 
>> they each record their own audio stream, so that it is of high quality, and 
>> not of skype quality. I don't know how Kevin Ciao does it when he is being 
>> interviewed by other people, but voiceover on, and similar podcasts that he 
>> appears in, all sound great. I think Florian, also on this list, once told 
>> me about each individual recording his her own voice, and then later 
>> overlaying the tracks in amadeus. Hopefully an experienced podcaster will 
>> comment on this. I'm interested in the details as well.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Paul.
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> Me and a friend of mine would like to make our very first podcast and we 
>>> would like to do that on the mac. We communicate through skype, is there an 
>>> audio editing app that can record straight from skype or do i need to use 
>>> one program to record the conversation to record and another to edit? 
>>> I hear garageband or amadeus pro can both be used but can they record from 
>>> skype and what are the pros and cons of either?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,

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Importing selection as playlist?

[Traci]

Hi all,

I'm trying to import music from an external drive into my Mac.  Some of this 
music is in folders, which were once playlists on my windows machine.  Is there 
a way, where I can import the folder as a playlist, or select the items inside 
the folder and import them into a playlist?

Anything other than adding the songs into the automatically add to iTunes 
folder, because then I need to locate the tracks and manually create the 
playlist.

Appreciate any guidance.  I've been looking to see if there is any scripts out 
there as well.

Traci
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viewing all Facebook activity via rss reader.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi list. Well the subject says it all.
I would like to be able to view all my friend's posts and updates without 
having to visit the Facebook site. 
I wish to do this via rss. I am sure there is a way but i can't manage to find 
it.
I wish to add the rss fee to Mail and read from there avoiding the Facebook 
site.
Any help is very much appreciated. 
Nektarios.

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Re: uploading html code with accented letters

[Chris Blouch]

You should only use ascii text in your HTML. If you need special 
characters then you need to use entity identifiers as anything will have 
cross-browser/platform weirdness, if you get them to work at all. 
Entities are written as &something; where something is replaced by some 
string of characters. Common entities can be found here:


http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_entities.asp

I run into this all the time with Windows people typing in special 
characters instead of using entities and then wondering why it comes out 
all goofy on Safari and anything non-IE.


CB

On 10/31/11 5:34 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Hi all,

I am happy to say that I was able to use terminal to upload files to ftp so 
thanks for the tips.

I am running into a different problem however. I am trying to upload a htm file 
containing accented letters. I saved in textedit. The characters are displaying 
well in textedit but not on the web. I have tempo rarely removed them but would 
love to find a solution for this. HOw do I even begin to address this issue of 
encoding incompatibility?

Thanks for your help.

Ioana



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uploading html code with accented letters

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all,

I am happy to say that I was able to use terminal to upload files to ftp so 
thanks for the tips.

I am running into a different problem however. I am trying to upload a htm file 
containing accented letters. I saved in textedit. The characters are displaying 
well in textedit but not on the web. I have tempo rarely removed them but would 
love to find a solution for this. HOw do I even begin to address this issue of 
encoding incompatibility?

Thanks for your help.

Ioana

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Re: creating audio cd for the car

[Esther]

Hi Ray,

To burn Audible books to audio CDs using iTunes, use Command+I to access the 
Options tab of the Audible track and set the Start and Stop time boxes each 
time before burning the next segment (e.g., 0:00 to 80:00, then 80:00 to 
160:00, etc.)  Audible suggests that you just adjust the start time, but if you 
want, you can check the start and stop time locations to match natural breaks 
with the RestartAt AppleScript from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads web page:
http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
For example, I split a set of short stories so that the breaks would come at 
the beginning and end of complete stories on the audio CD.
Remember to turn these settings off when you're done, or your Audible track 
will only play the section between the start time and the stop time that you've 
set.  A bit more tedious than doing this with the app on the Windows side.  

Here's the link to the help instructions on the Audible web site:


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 31, 2011, at 09:10, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Say, ever burned an audible.com book to CD using ITunes?  I can't imagine how 
> that's done.
> 
> When I looked up the instructions at audible, it seemed to me like you had to 
> access stuff I reckoned we don't have access to.
> 
> For my audio CD's, I just use either Simply Burns or Burn.
> 
> Great tools both of them; but, I found that with Burn, you need to take care 
> to ensure that the files you are burning have 44.1 oversampling and 16 bit 
> depth.  IF not, the files may play at half or double speed on the CD.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:
> 
>> thanks there had to be a way just knowing it. Gerry Cook
>> cheers gerry
>> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> On 01/11/2011, at 3:25 AM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gerry,
>>> 
>>> To make sure you burn an Audio CD, create your playlist in iTunes and 
>>> select it in the sources table. Then, after you use VO-M and navigate to 
>>> the "File" menu of iTunes and arrow down to the "Burn Playlist to Disc" 
>>> menu option, select the radio button for "Audio CD" as the format in the 
>>> dialog window. 
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 01:19, Gerry Cook wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd 
 player, but when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of 
 the cd to a blank it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and 
 there was no music, and there seems no option in itunes once you've ripped 
 it in to your itunes library to burn it to a blank cd. Any help would be 
 appreciated, thanks.
 Gerry Cook
 cheers gerry
 gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
 
 
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Re: a note on microphones for macs

[Chris Blouch]

What model and flavor is it? As a USB device it usually is just a matter 
of the manufacturer offering OSX drivers. Without that you'll be stuck.


CB

On 10/28/11 4:24 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote:
I have no clue, but would be very interested in finding out. I have a 
wonderful USB headset that works on Windows, but won't work when I'm 
running Mac OS.


I'm not sure which mics are Mac compatible. I have a feeling this will 
take some research.


Shannon

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On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

Wow, they've been doing this for a few years now. I wonder what the 
converter thingy is?


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" >
To: "MacVisionaries list" >

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: a note on microphones for macs



Hi all,
I just made a discovery that I really wish someone had shared with 
me earlier.  Apparently, Macs use a different microphone input than 
most other PC sound cards.  This means that the standard, non 
line-quality microphone you may have, as I do, will not work with a 
Mac's microphone jack.  You either need a converter, a microphone 
that is certified to work with Macs, or a USB microphone.  This also 
explains why Windows sees only a line-in jack for audio input in 
addition to digital audio.


Have a great day,
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Re: a note on microphones for macs

[Chris Blouch]

I wonder if that's because it's a live digital audio stream and not 
analog. As a USB device it shouldn't have any issues being plugged into 
a USB cell phone charger port.


CB

On 10/28/11 5:03 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
I'm not sure if this is only on my Blue Eyeball, if mine got fried a 
little bit being accidentally plugged into my cell phone charger, or 
the way Blue designed it, but 100 percent is the only recording level. 
If I moved it to 0 as I was talking into it, it did absolutely nothing 
on either my Windows desktop, Snow Leopard on the Mac, or boot camped 
Windows on the Macbook. I know you can usually uncheck a box in the 
sound preferences or volume control that will make only silence record 
from the mic source, essentially muting it, but if I continued to talk 
on mute, my voice got picked up at full level also. My old plantronics 
headset allows level variability and the ability to keep other 
software recording while it's unselected and it really silences, so it 
must be this eyeball mic some how.


- Original Message -
*From:* Matt Dierckens 
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2011 3:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: a note on microphones for macs

I have a blue yeti microphone, but I wish taht I could use my
senheizer headset with the mac.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-10-28, at 2:10 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:


It was a little jarring when I found that out, too. I got a USB
mic, though, and it's all good now.

Teresa

I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.

On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Brent Harding wrote:


Wow, they've been doing this for a few years now. I wonder what
the converter thingy is?

- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall"
mailto:mehg...@gmail.com>>
To: "MacVisionaries list" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: a note on microphones for macs



Hi all,
I just made a discovery that I really wish someone had shared
with me earlier.  Apparently, Macs use a different microphone
input than most other PC sound cards.  This means that the
standard, non line-quality microphone you may have, as I do,
will not work with a Mac's microphone jack.  You either need a
converter, a microphone that is certified to work with Macs, or
a USB microphone.  This also explains why Windows sees only a
line-in jack for audio input in addition to digital audio.

Have a great day,
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Re: a note on microphones for macs

[Matt Dierckens]

I can't remember what type of headset it is, but its a standard headphone 
microphone combo.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-10-31, at 4:46 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Depends on what headset you have. I use Sennheiser HD250 Linear II headphones 
> which just plug right in to the headphone jack, but I'm assuming you're 
> referring to some other kinds of headset.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/28/11 4:18 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>> 
>> I have a blue yeti microphone, but I wish taht I could use my senheizer 
>> headset with the mac.
>> 
>> Matt
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>> 
>> On 2011-10-28, at 2:10 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> It was a little jarring when I found that out, too. I got a USB mic, 
>>> though, and it's all good now.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>> 
 Wow, they've been doing this for a few years now. I wonder what the 
 converter thingy is?
 
 - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
 To: "MacVisionaries list" 
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:27 AM
 Subject: a note on microphones for macs
 
 
> Hi all,
> I just made a discovery that I really wish someone had shared with me 
> earlier.  Apparently, Macs use a different microphone input than most 
> other PC sound cards.  This means that the standard, non line-quality 
> microphone you may have, as I do, will not work with a Mac's microphone 
> jack.  You either need a converter, a microphone that is certified to 
> work with Macs, or a USB microphone.  This also explains why Windows sees 
> only a line-in jack for audio input in addition to digital audio.
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from BrailleNote
> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
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Re: a note on microphones for macs

[Chris Blouch]

Depends on what headset you have. I use Sennheiser HD250 Linear II 
headphones which just plug right in to the headphone jack, but I'm 
assuming you're referring to some other kinds of headset.


CB

On 10/28/11 4:18 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
I have a blue yeti microphone, but I wish taht I could use my 
senheizer headset with the mac.


Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-10-28, at 2:10 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

It was a little jarring when I found that out, too. I got a USB mic, 
though, and it's all good now.


Teresa

I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.

On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Brent Harding wrote:

Wow, they've been doing this for a few years now. I wonder what the 
converter thingy is?


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" >
To: "MacVisionaries list" >

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: a note on microphones for macs



Hi all,
I just made a discovery that I really wish someone had shared with 
me earlier.  Apparently, Macs use a different microphone input than 
most other PC sound cards.  This means that the standard, non 
line-quality microphone you may have, as I do, will not work with a 
Mac's microphone jack.  You either need a converter, a microphone 
that is certified to work with Macs, or a USB microphone.  This 
also explains why Windows sees only a line-in jack for audio input 
in addition to digital audio.


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Re: Facebook chat instructions if needed was iTunes Question and Other Stuff

[Red . Falcon]

Hi Gavin again!
Heres that facebook info if needed!
1. go to facebook.com and go to your account!
2. open account settings and select change user name [ even if you do not have 
one]
3. Facebook should give you some options and just after them will be a more 
link select it!
4. Now after the options Facebook gives you [I did not  like my suggestions] 
there is a edit box where you can put your own name!
There is a see if name is available button after you put your choice, if it is 
available you can have it!
If not try another or add a number to the end! [ it might help]
5. When your happy come out of Facebook and open Adium!
6. In Adium on your contacts window open vo+m and go to the file menu!
7. Scroll down to add new account sub menu and arrow right, go down to Jabber 
and select it!
8. In the new account window is where you'll find those tabs, the first one 
should be selected just scroll past until you get to where you put your new 
user name!
When you've entered it the next field is your Facebook password!
9. After filling those in go back to the options tab select and scroll to where 
you put the server name [ as you correctly said ] chat.facebook.com and enter 
it!
10. go to register new account button and press it!
And you should be done! :]


On 31 Oct 2011, at 16:31, Gavin wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> Is there a way to back up the contents of an iPhone to a newly created iTunes 
> library without removing anything from the iPhone itself? Whenever I select 
> things like the Music or Apps radio buttons and tell iTunes that I want to 
> sync those items, I get told that the data on the iPhone will be erased and 
> replaced with the contents of the current iTunes library. The thing is, as I 
> said, it's a newly created library, so it doesn't have any items in it to put 
> on the iPhone.
> 
> Also, I posted 2 questions a few days ago that are as yet unanswered. I'm 
> pasting them below just in case they didn't make it through to the list. 
> Thanks very much in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 1. I downloaded Dropbox V1.40. How do I enter my account information without 
> sighted assistance? Also, how would I turn the ability to have Dropbox start 
> automatically when the operating system boots on or off?
> 
> 2. Has anybody managed to get VoiceOver to speak the names of contacts in 
> Adium's contacts table. All I hear is, "empty, empty, empty" when I scroll up 
> and down. Is it the version of Adium I'm using? Or perhaps the services with 
> which I'm using it? I have it connected to Facebook and MXit. I've got the 
> latest Adium version, if that helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin
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Re: iTunes Question and Other Stuff

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Gavin!
If you saw the reply to your Adium question I've just remembered to use 
facebook you need to set up a new user in facebook to make it work!
I'll have to look for the steps but it's something to do with java in Adium!
Colin

On 31 Oct 2011, at 16:31, Gavin wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> Is there a way to back up the contents of an iPhone to a newly created iTunes 
> library without removing anything from the iPhone itself? Whenever I select 
> things like the Music or Apps radio buttons and tell iTunes that I want to 
> sync those items, I get told that the data on the iPhone will be erased and 
> replaced with the contents of the current iTunes library. The thing is, as I 
> said, it's a newly created library, so it doesn't have any items in it to put 
> on the iPhone.
> 
> Also, I posted 2 questions a few days ago that are as yet unanswered. I'm 
> pasting them below just in case they didn't make it through to the list. 
> Thanks very much in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 1. I downloaded Dropbox V1.40. How do I enter my account information without 
> sighted assistance? Also, how would I turn the ability to have Dropbox start 
> automatically when the operating system boots on or off?
> 
> 2. Has anybody managed to get VoiceOver to speak the names of contacts in 
> Adium's contacts table. All I hear is, "empty, empty, empty" when I scroll up 
> and down. Is it the version of Adium I'm using? Or perhaps the services with 
> which I'm using it? I have it connected to Facebook and MXit. I've got the 
> latest Adium version, if that helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin
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Re: Importing into iTunes question

[Esther]

HI Bill,

I think you can use the Command+I "Get Info" shortcut to edit your tracks and 
navigate to the Options tab where you can change the pop up menu button for 
Media Kind from "Movies" to "TV Shows".  And you should be able to do this for 
multiple selected tracks at once if this works the same way that it does for 
moving Audiobooks from Music to Books.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 31, 2011, at 08:54, Bill Holton wrote:

> If I am ripping a diskof TV episodes is there any way I can force iTunes to 
> import them so they show up in the TV tab instead of the movie tab?  Thanks.
>  

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Re: Adium Enquiries

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Hi Gavin!
I hope this will be of some help to you [It was for me]
Colin
Well It would help if I put in the text!
:]

> To make this easier, you can set up events for Adium for specific sound sets. 
> This means that you can technically enable various different events for sound 
> sets, so if you like the iChat sounds, for example, you can switch to iChat 
> when creating another notification preset. Obviously, you are not required to 
> select different sounds, so if you want, you can simply leave that alone and 
> simply use it for an easy switch of spoken events.
> 
> To find the Events preferences, hit Command-Comma to go into Preferences, 
> then interact with the Toolbar. Next, move to the events button and hit 
> VO-Space to select it. In some cases in Adium, you are not thrown out of the 
> toolbar as you should be,so simply stop interacting and move right with the 
> VoiceOver keys to focus on the events table.
> 
> If you just want to use the "Default notifications" you can leave the pop up 
> alone which governs what notifications you are currently using. This allows 
> for a high degree of customisation, allowing you to include extras should you 
> wish to download them. It is also worth noting that it appears that you can 
> save as many configurations as you would like to save.
> 
> If you want to assign an event to a current notification, select the "Events" 
> table, then interact with it. Now, simply move down with either VO-Down or 
> down arrow on its own to move through the table, and when you see an 
> notification you would like to assign an event to, simply stop interacting 
> with the table, then VO-right until you reach the "Add" button and hit 
> VO-Space. To see what events are currently assigned to a notification, simply 
> move to the third column right next to the name of the notification. If you 
> are not interacting, VoiceOver will automatically read all the columns in a 
> row. In this case, if you want to expand a notification to remove one or more 
> of its events, you can either use VO-Backslash to expand it or simply use the 
> right arrow key which performs the same action. When expanding a 
> notification, simply move to the event you would like to edit or remove, stop 
> interacting if you are, and VO-right to either the "Edit" or "Remove" 
> buttons. Editing obviously lets you recreate the event as you see fit.
> 
> Adding events is also relatively simply. You simply hit the "Add" button 
> after selecting the notification you would like to add an event to, then 
> select the type of event such as "Speak event." When selecting the different 
> pop up choices, the options will change to reflect your selection. In the 
> case of "Speak event," options to select exactly what is spoken such as name 
> and time appear, including whether or not to use a custom speech rate and 
> pitch as well as voice. If you uncheck the custom checkboxes, it will obey 
> the options set under System Preferences in the Speech category.
> 
> Additionally, you may also switch off Cursor Tracking with VO-Shift-F3. In 
> this case, you obviously do not need these events in case you want to read 
> them as they come in at your own leisure. Switching off Cursor Tracking is 
> actually very handy, as the keyboard focus doesn't move the VoiceOver cursor. 
> This enables you to read what you have written using the arrow keys only, and 
> quickly read incoming information in any application as soon as it comes in 
> by simply leaving the VoiceOver cursor in the preferred area. This is handy 
> in Applications like Skype as well, particularly Skype 5.1.
> 
> When you interact with the HTML content area, which VoiceOver reports as 
> "unknown," you are primarily always put at the top of the chat. You can use a 
> command like FN-Shift-VO-End to get to the bottom and FN-Shift--VO-Home to 
> get to the top, though primarily you may be able to ditch the Shift key in 
> favour of only using FN-VO home and end.
> 
> I hope this helps. I wanted to provide the information about the events so 
> that it might make it a bit easier and make it so that you have to move 
> around less within Adium.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic

On 28 Oct 2011, at 21:40, Gavin wrote:

> Hi guys, me again.
> 
> Has anybody managed to get VoiceOver to speak the names of contacts in 
> Adium's contacts table. All I hear is, "empty, empty, empty" when I scroll up 
> and down. Is it the version of Adium I'm using? Or perhaps the services with 
> which I'm using it? I have it connected to Facebook and MXit. I've got the 
> latest Adium version, if that helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin
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Re: Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Kevin,

Do you know which players the site uses for media? If it uses strictly flash, 
it will not be very accessible on the Mac. You could possibly try going to the 
mobile version on your computer, which will most likely not contain flash.

HTH,
Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

> I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they put 
> up video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. I 
> can't access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does anyone 
> have an idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on safari on the 
> mac?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kev
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Re: Adium Enquiries

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Gavin!
I hope this will be of some help to you [It was for me]
Colin

On 28 Oct 2011, at 21:40, Gavin wrote:

> Hi guys, me again.
> 
> Has anybody managed to get VoiceOver to speak the names of contacts in 
> Adium's contacts table. All I hear is, "empty, empty, empty" when I scroll up 
> and down. Is it the version of Adium I'm using? Or perhaps the services with 
> which I'm using it? I have it connected to Facebook and MXit. I've got the 
> latest Adium version, if that helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin
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Safari Behavior on the Mac vs IPhone

[Kevin Mattingly]

I subscribe to a rivals sports site and generally after every game, they put up 
video of coaches and players. The videos are imbedded into the page. I can't 
access the play buttons on the Mac but can on the IPhone. Does anyone have an 
idea as to how I might get those buttons to show up on safari on the mac?

Thanks,
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Re: creating audio cd for the car

[Ray Foret Jr]

Say, ever burned an audible.com book to CD using ITunes?  I can't imagine how 
that's done.

When I looked up the instructions at audible, it seemed to me like you had to 
access stuff I reckoned we don't have access to.

For my audio CD's, I just use either Simply Burns or Burn.

Great tools both of them; but, I found that with Burn, you need to take care to 
ensure that the files you are burning have 44.1 oversampling and 16 bit depth.  
IF not, the files may play at half or double speed on the CD.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:

> thanks there had to be a way just knowing it. Gerry Cook
> cheers gerry
> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
> 
> 
> On 01/11/2011, at 3:25 AM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gerry,
>> 
>> To make sure you burn an Audio CD, create your playlist in iTunes and select 
>> it in the sources table. Then, after you use VO-M and navigate to the "File" 
>> menu of iTunes and arrow down to the "Burn Playlist to Disc" menu option, 
>> select the radio button for "Audio CD" as the format in the dialog window. 
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 01:19, Gerry Cook wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd player, 
>>> but when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of the cd to 
>>> a blank it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and there was no 
>>> music, and there seems no option in itunes once you've ripped it in to your 
>>> itunes library to burn it to a blank cd. Any help would be appreciated, 
>>> thanks.
>>> Gerry Cook
>>> cheers gerry
>>> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: creating audio cd for the car

[Gerry Cook]

thanks there had to be a way just knowing it. Gerry Cook
cheers gerry
gerryc...@optusnet.com.au


On 01/11/2011, at 3:25 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Gerry,
> 
> To make sure you burn an Audio CD, create your playlist in iTunes and select 
> it in the sources table. Then, after you use VO-M and navigate to the "File" 
> menu of iTunes and arrow down to the "Burn Playlist to Disc" menu option, 
> select the radio button for "Audio CD" as the format in the dialog window. 
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 01:19, Gerry Cook wrote:
> 
>> Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd player, 
>> but when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of the cd to a 
>> blank it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and there was no 
>> music, and there seems no option in itunes once you've ripped it in to your 
>> itunes library to burn it to a blank cd. Any help would be appreciated, 
>> thanks.
>> Gerry Cook
>> cheers gerry
>> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>> 
>> 
> 
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Importing into iTunes question

[Bill Holton]

If I am ripping a diskof TV episodes is there any way I can force iTunes to
import them so they show up in the TV tab instead of the movie tab?  Thanks.

 

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Re: importing an entire folder into iTunes?

[Traci]

Will this work when importing from an external drive?

Traci

- Original Message - 
From: "Goodin, Donna" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: importing an entire folder into iTunes?



lol. I was thinking of you this morning.  Hope you had a good one!
Donna
On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


No problem,

Consider it a Birthday present my fellow Scorpio. lol

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

Hey, Ricardo, thanks!  Worked like  a charm.  I knew there was some way 
to do this.

Cheers,
Donna
On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

In iTunes press command O to bring up the file browser and just press 
enter on the folder you wish to import.


Ricardo Walker
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Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:


Hi all,

Just wondering if there's a way to do this other than selecting all 
the songs and using Command-O.  It seems like I remember there being a 
command that will allow you to import an entire folder, but I can't 
find it.

TIA,
Donna

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google chrome question.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi list.
I am experimenting with Google Chrome and I am looking for the option to not 
display images on web pages so to speed up loading and save bandwidth. 
Do you know where can I find it? 
I am looking in preferences but I can't find such a thing.
Any help please?
Nektarios.

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iTunes Question and Other Stuff

[Gavin]

Hi Guys,

Is there a way to back up the contents of an iPhone to a newly created iTunes 
library without removing anything from the iPhone itself? Whenever I select 
things like the Music or Apps radio buttons and tell iTunes that I want to sync 
those items, I get told that the data on the iPhone will be erased and replaced 
with the contents of the current iTunes library. The thing is, as I said, it's 
a newly created library, so it doesn't have any items in it to put on the 
iPhone.

Also, I posted 2 questions a few days ago that are as yet unanswered. I'm 
pasting them below just in case they didn't make it through to the list. Thanks 
very much in advance for any suggestions.

1. I downloaded Dropbox V1.40. How do I enter my account information without 
sighted assistance? Also, how would I turn the ability to have Dropbox start 
automatically when the operating system boots on or off?

2. Has anybody managed to get VoiceOver to speak the names of contacts in 
Adium's contacts table. All I hear is, "empty, empty, empty" when I scroll up 
and down. Is it the version of Adium I'm using? Or perhaps the services with 
which I'm using it? I have it connected to Facebook and MXit. I've got the 
latest Adium version, if that helps.

Regards,

Gavin

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Re: steve Jobs in 1994.

[Chris Blouch]

When it comes to the quality v. quantity argument it is usually 
preceeded by discussions implying market share as an indication of 
product fitness. Obviously if there are more Windows boxes purchased, it 
must be better. I also know that cockroaches far outnumber people on 
this planet.


CB

On 10/30/11 9:29 PM, Brian Miller wrote:

Hi all,
I actually don't think Jobs was as market driven in the classic sense -- I
think he had a much more idiosyncratic commitment to his own vision,
believing that the rest of the world would find it interesting if he did
too.  I think he was about quality interfacing with the product, and that
the kinds of products he created were meant to be, and are, paradigm
changers -- Del computer, I think is a classic market driven model...
Maximize market share by competitive pricing and driving down costs
relentlessly.  Gateway too was like that.  Apple is not that way in my
opinion... Macs and OS are still, what, at best 10% of the market, compared
to PCs and Microsoft platforms.  Nevertheless, Jobs, through Apple, changed
everything around this.

This is why I think the Voice Over is much less a market decision than a
product of the overall Jobs vision.  His adoptive father taught him to make
the fence look nice, even on the side that no one would see.  That's not
market economics, that aesthetics, and a different approach entirely to the
classic model.

Just my thoughts... Who knows?

It will be interesting to finally get the full story about Apple and
accessibility.  Let's remember that Apple promised much, and delivered
little, until suddenly it delivered everything.

Brian M


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: steve Jobs in 1994.

Hi,
Just a couple of comments, I have not read the bio yet.  Still the book is
not a history of apple computers.  Instead its a bio from a father to his
children so they understand him and why he made the time choices he did.
As for Jobs involvement inaccessibility, bare in mind that there have been
exactly two and only two screen readers for the mac, outspoken and
voiceover.  for years outspoken did the job, and Jobs was intense about the
proprietary nature of Apple.  That is why they were so expensive, and that
was /is why they are built largely like tanks.  Nothing went into a mac that
he did not want there, end of story.  No matter his motives, he saw a market
and built for that market.  the market has been here for years, but no one
saw it that way.
just my two cents,
Karen

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:


Hi,

Thats true, but he would have done the exact same for any other
feature of iOs - that won't have been exclusive to accessibility. I'm
not saying that he didn't care about it all, but people talking about
him as if he was some sort of missionary is a bit over the top imo; he
won't have made voiceover out of the good of his heart, he will have
done it because there was a market that the iPhone hadn't entered.
I do agree that they've done an amazing job with vo and I find it
quite ironic that arguably the best phone for a blind person to
purchase is one with a touch screen.

On 30/10/2011, Joanne Chua  wrote:

Hi,

Another arguement i have from some other sources are that,
considering how "hand on" person he is, won't be surprise if he has a
major impack on their accessibility.

Regardless, does it matter? After all, come to the products, and the
products are useful, accessible, and become an essential in our life.

Considering how much Apple take on their Grapic approach, and how
much it can be also accessible, that prove something isn't it? After
all, who would have thought, graphics and accessibility can go
together hand in hand. 5 years ago, if you are blind, and tell
someone that you want a totally touch phone  they think you insane too.

I wonder what sort of biography will people like founders of Freedom
Scientific, Humanware, GWMicro, and so on gotta write? "Provide less
than satisfy accessible product, and sucking every bit of your money
out of your bank"?

On 30/10/2011, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

Hi,

There wasn't any mention of accessibility in the biography at all,
but then again, hardly any of the individual features of osx or iOs
were mentioned iether.
The opinion that I have is that whilst he probably had little to no
involvement in accessibility, its because of him that it works so
well
- he probably saw a few bits here and there and gave them his
blessing or dismissed them.

On 30/10/2011, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Hi,

I didn't read the book yet but, How much did Jobs really have to do
with making Apple products accessible?  I mean, was he like
overseeing the maturation process of voiceover like IOS or OSX?

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter&  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Oct 29, 2011, at 5:25 PM, An

Re: creating audio cd for the car

[Esther]

Hi Gerry,

To make sure you burn an Audio CD, create your playlist in iTunes and select it 
in the sources table. Then, after you use VO-M and navigate to the "File" menu 
of iTunes and arrow down to the "Burn Playlist to Disc" menu option, select the 
radio button for "Audio CD" as the format in the dialog window. 

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 31, 2011, at 01:19, Gerry Cook wrote:

> Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd player, 
> but when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of the cd to a 
> blank it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and there was no 
> music, and there seems no option in itunes once you've ripped it in to your 
> itunes library to burn it to a blank cd. Any help would be appreciated, 
> thanks.
> Gerry Cook
> cheers gerry
> gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
> 
> 

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Speech Rate of Alerts in IChat?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, guys,

I've noticed that the speech rate for alerts in IChat is quite slow, even for 
me. :) I'm wondering if there's a way to change it? I tried changing the rate 
in text-to-speech preferences in System Preferences, but there is no change.

Thanks,
Teresa

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podcasts about podcasting?Re: (round table) podcasting on the mac?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Paul,
Well, Florian told me that it is possible to record a skype conversation using 
audio hijack pro and then edit it in garageband. or use soundflower (as a sort 
of virtual soundcard) and then directly stream it to garageband or amadeus pro.
I was wondering though for anyone who knows this are there any podcasts about 
podcasting and the associated softwarementioned above?
Thanks in advance for the information,
Greetings, Anouk,
On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Anouk,
> I'm not a great multi people podcaster myself. So far I only did podcasts 
> with my usb microphone, but from what I know, when 2 people skype together, 
> they each record their own audio stream, so that it is of high quality, and 
> not of skype quality. I don't know how Kevin Ciao does it when he is being 
> interviewed by other people, but voiceover on, and similar podcasts that he 
> appears in, all sound great. I think Florian, also on this list, once told me 
> about each individual recording his her own voice, and then later overlaying 
> the tracks in amadeus. Hopefully an experienced podcaster will comment on 
> this. I'm interested in the details as well.
> 
> Best,
> Paul.
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> Me and a friend of mine would like to make our very first podcast and we 
>> would like to do that on the mac. We communicate through skype, is there an 
>> audio editing app that can record straight from skype or do i need to use 
>> one program to record the conversation to record and another to edit? 
>> I hear garageband or amadeus pro can both be used but can they record from 
>> skype and what are the pros and cons of either?
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: A Sister’s Eulogy for Steve Jobs - NYTimes.com

[Garth Humphreys]

I now see why I kept hearing about this piece of writing. Thanks for posting 
it, I have been meaning to look it up and read the whole text. 
On 31/10/2011, at 10:07 PM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:

> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-jobs.html?_r=1
> 
> A Sister’s Eulogy for Steve Jobs
> 
> I grew up as an only child, with a single mother. Because we were poor and 
> because I knew my father had emigrated from Syria, I imagined he looked like 
> Omar Sharif. I hoped he would be rich and kind and would come into our lives 
> (and our not yet furnished apartment) and help us. Later, after I’d met my 
> father, I tried to believe he’d changed his number and left no forwarding 
> address because he was an idealistic revolutionary, plotting a new world for 
> the Arab people.
> 
> Even as a feminist, my whole life I’d been waiting for a man to love, who 
> could love me. For decades, I’d thought that man would be my father. When I 
> was 25, I met that man and he was my brother.
> 
> By then, I lived in New York, where I was trying to write my first novel. I 
> had a job at a small magazine in an office the size of a closet, with three 
> other aspiring writers. When one day a lawyer called me — me, the 
> middle-class girl from California who hassled the boss to buy us health 
> insurance — and said his client was rich and famous and was my long-lost 
> brother, the young editors went wild. This was 1985 and we worked at a 
> cutting-edge literary magazine, but I’d fallen into the plot of a Dickens 
> novel and really, we all loved those best. The lawyer refused to tell me my 
> brother’s name and my colleagues started a betting pool. The leading 
> candidate: John Travolta. I secretly hoped for a literary descendant of Henry 
> James — someone more talented than I, someone brilliant without even trying.
> 
> When I met Steve, he was a guy my age in jeans, Arab- or Jewish-looking and 
> handsomer than Omar Sharif.
> 
> We took a long walk — something, it happened, that we both liked to do. I 
> don’t remember much of what we said that first day, only that he felt like 
> someone I’d pick to be a friend. He explained that he worked in computers.
> 
> I didn’t know much about computers. I still worked on a manual Olivetti 
> typewriter.
> 
> I told Steve I’d recently considered my first purchase of a computer: 
> something called the Cromemco.
> 
> Steve told me it was a good thing I’d waited. He said he was making something 
> that was going to be insanely beautiful.
> 
> I want to tell you a few things I learned from Steve, during three distinct 
> periods, over the 27 years I knew him. They’re not periods of years, but of 
> states of being. His full life. His illness. His dying.
> 
> Steve worked at what he loved. He worked really hard. Every day.
> 
> That’s incredibly simple, but true.
> 
> He was the opposite of absent-minded.
> 
> He was never embarrassed about working hard, even if the results were 
> failures. If someone as smart as Steve wasn’t ashamed to admit trying, maybe 
> I didn’t have to be.
> 
> When he got kicked out of Apple, things were painful. He told me about a 
> dinner at which 500 Silicon Valley leaders met the then-sitting president. 
> Steve hadn’t been invited.
> 
> He was hurt but he still went to work at Next. Every single day.
> 
> Novelty was not Steve’s highest value. Beauty was.
> 
> For an innovator, Steve was remarkably loyal. If he loved a shirt, he’d order 
> 10 or 100 of them. In the Palo Alto house, there are probably enough black 
> cotton turtlenecks for everyone in this church.
> 
> He didn’t favor trends or gimmicks. He liked people his own age.
> 
> His philosophy of aesthetics reminds me of a quote that went something like 
> this: “Fashion is what seems beautiful now but looks ugly later; art can be 
> ugly at first but it becomes beautiful later.”
> 
> Steve always aspired to make beautiful later.
> 
> He was willing to be misunderstood.
> 
> Uninvited to the ball, he drove the third or fourth iteration of his same 
> black sports car to Next, where he and his team were quietly inventing the 
> platform on which Tim Berners-Lee would write the program for the World Wide 
> Web.
> 
> Mona Simpson is a novelist and a professor of English at the University of 
> California, Los Angeles. She delivered this eulogy for her brother, Steve 
> Jobs, on Oct. 16 at his memorial service at the Memorial Church of Stanford 
> University.
> 
> 
> Steve was like a girl in the amount of time he spent talking about love. Love 
> was his supreme virtue, his god of gods. He tracked and worried about the 
> romantic lives of the people working with him.
> 
> Whenever he saw a man he thought a woman might find dashing, he called out, 
> “Hey are you single? Do you wanna come to dinner with my sister?”
> 
> I remember when he phoned the day he met Laurene. “There’s this beautiful 
> woman and she’s really smart and she has this dog and I’m going to 

Re: importing an entire folder into iTunes?

[Goodin, Donna]

lol. I was thinking of you this morning.  Hope you had a good one!
Donna
On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> No problem,
> 
> Consider it a Birthday present my fellow Scorpio. lol
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
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> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
> 
>> Hey, Ricardo, thanks!  Worked like  a charm.  I knew there was some way to 
>> do this.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna 
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In iTunes press command O to bring up the file browser and just press enter 
>>> on the folder you wish to import.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there's a way to do this other than selecting all the 
 songs and using Command-O.  It seems like I remember there being a command 
 that will allow you to import an entire folder, but I can't find it. 
 TIA,
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Re: importing an entire folder into iTunes?

[Ricardo Walker]

No problem,

Consider it a Birthday present my fellow Scorpio. lol

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On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

> Hey, Ricardo, thanks!  Worked like  a charm.  I knew there was some way to do 
> this.
> Cheers,
> Donna 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In iTunes press command O to bring up the file browser and just press enter 
>> on the folder you wish to import.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if there's a way to do this other than selecting all the 
>>> songs and using Command-O.  It seems like I remember there being a command 
>>> that will allow you to import an entire folder, but I can't find it. 
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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A Sister’s Eulogy for Steve Jobs - NYTimes.com

[Hai Nguyen Ly]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-jobs.html?_r=1

A Sister’s Eulogy for Steve Jobs

I grew up as an only child, with a single mother. Because we were poor and 
because I knew my father had emigrated from Syria, I imagined he looked like 
Omar Sharif. I hoped he would be rich and kind and would come into our lives 
(and our not yet furnished apartment) and help us. Later, after I’d met my 
father, I tried to believe he’d changed his number and left no forwarding 
address because he was an idealistic revolutionary, plotting a new world for 
the Arab people.

Even as a feminist, my whole life I’d been waiting for a man to love, who could 
love me. For decades, I’d thought that man would be my father. When I was 25, I 
met that man and he was my brother.

By then, I lived in New York, where I was trying to write my first novel. I had 
a job at a small magazine in an office the size of a closet, with three other 
aspiring writers. When one day a lawyer called me — me, the middle-class girl 
from California who hassled the boss to buy us health insurance — and said his 
client was rich and famous and was my long-lost brother, the young editors went 
wild. This was 1985 and we worked at a cutting-edge literary magazine, but I’d 
fallen into the plot of a Dickens novel and really, we all loved those best. 
The lawyer refused to tell me my brother’s name and my colleagues started a 
betting pool. The leading candidate: John Travolta. I secretly hoped for a 
literary descendant of Henry James — someone more talented than I, someone 
brilliant without even trying.

When I met Steve, he was a guy my age in jeans, Arab- or Jewish-looking and 
handsomer than Omar Sharif.

We took a long walk — something, it happened, that we both liked to do. I don’t 
remember much of what we said that first day, only that he felt like someone 
I’d pick to be a friend. He explained that he worked in computers.

I didn’t know much about computers. I still worked on a manual Olivetti 
typewriter.

I told Steve I’d recently considered my first purchase of a computer: something 
called the Cromemco.

Steve told me it was a good thing I’d waited. He said he was making something 
that was going to be insanely beautiful.

I want to tell you a few things I learned from Steve, during three distinct 
periods, over the 27 years I knew him. They’re not periods of years, but of 
states of being. His full life. His illness. His dying.

Steve worked at what he loved. He worked really hard. Every day.

That’s incredibly simple, but true.

He was the opposite of absent-minded.

He was never embarrassed about working hard, even if the results were failures. 
If someone as smart as Steve wasn’t ashamed to admit trying, maybe I didn’t 
have to be.

When he got kicked out of Apple, things were painful. He told me about a dinner 
at which 500 Silicon Valley leaders met the then-sitting president. Steve 
hadn’t been invited.

He was hurt but he still went to work at Next. Every single day.

Novelty was not Steve’s highest value. Beauty was.

For an innovator, Steve was remarkably loyal. If he loved a shirt, he’d order 
10 or 100 of them. In the Palo Alto house, there are probably enough black 
cotton turtlenecks for everyone in this church.

He didn’t favor trends or gimmicks. He liked people his own age.

His philosophy of aesthetics reminds me of a quote that went something like 
this: “Fashion is what seems beautiful now but looks ugly later; art can be 
ugly at first but it becomes beautiful later.”

Steve always aspired to make beautiful later.

He was willing to be misunderstood.

Uninvited to the ball, he drove the third or fourth iteration of his same black 
sports car to Next, where he and his team were quietly inventing the platform 
on which Tim Berners-Lee would write the program for the World Wide Web.

Mona Simpson is a novelist and a professor of English at the University of 
California, Los Angeles. She delivered this eulogy for her brother, Steve Jobs, 
on Oct. 16 at his memorial service at the Memorial Church of Stanford 
University.

Steve was like a girl in the amount of time he spent talking about love. Love 
was his supreme virtue, his god of gods. He tracked and worried about the 
romantic lives of the people working with him.

Whenever he saw a man he thought a woman might find dashing, he called out, 
“Hey are you single? Do you wanna come to dinner with my sister?”

I remember when he phoned the day he met Laurene. “There’s this beautiful woman 
and she’s really smart and she has this dog and I’m going to marry her.”

When Reed was born, he began gushing and never stopped. He was a physical dad, 
with each of his children. He fretted over Lisa’s boyfriends and Erin’s travel 
and skirt lengths and Eve’s safety around the horses she adored.

None of us who attended Reed’s graduation party will ever forget the scene of 
Reed and Steve slow dancing.

His abiding love for Laurene sustained h

Re: importing an entire folder into iTunes?

[Goodin, Donna]

Hey, Ricardo, thanks!  Worked like  a charm.  I knew there was some way to do 
this.
Cheers,
Donna 
On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In iTunes press command O to bring up the file browser and just press enter 
> on the folder you wish to import.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if there's a way to do this other than selecting all the 
>> songs and using Command-O.  It seems like I remember there being a command 
>> that will allow you to import an entire folder, but I can't find it. 
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: importing an entire folder into iTunes?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

In iTunes press command O to bring up the file browser and just press enter on 
the folder you wish to import.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
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> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if there's a way to do this other than selecting all the songs 
> and using Command-O.  It seems like I remember there being a command that 
> will allow you to import an entire folder, but I can't find it. 
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: steve Jobs in 1994.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

The point of this portion of the thread was pretty much about his motivations 
in regard to accessibility on the Mac and IOS and, how much of a role did he 
play in it.  so, I'm not sure you can say "there, end of story.  No matter his 
motives, he saw a market and built for that…".

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On Oct 30, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Hi,
> Just a couple of comments, I have not read the bio yet.  Still the book is 
> not a history of apple computers.  Instead its a bio from a father to his 
> children so they understand him and why he made the time choices he did.
> As for Jobs involvement inaccessibility, bare in mind that there have been 
> exactly two and only two screen readers for the mac, outspoken and voiceover. 
>  for years outspoken did the job, and Jobs was intense about the proprietary 
> nature of Apple.  That is why they were so expensive, and that was /is why 
> they are built largely like tanks.  Nothing went into a mac that he did not 
> want there, end of story.  No matter his motives, he saw a market and built 
> for that market.  the market has been here for years, but no one saw it that 
> way.
> just my two cents,
> Karen
> 
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thats true, but he would have done the exact same for any other
>> feature of iOs - that won't have been exclusive to accessibility. I'm
>> not saying that he didn't care about it all, but people talking about
>> him as if he was some sort of missionary is a bit over the top imo; he
>> won't have made voiceover out of the good of his heart, he will have
>> done it because there was a market that the iPhone hadn't entered.
>> I do agree that they've done an amazing job with vo and I find it
>> quite ironic that arguably the best phone for a blind person to
>> purchase is one with a touch screen.
>> 
>> On 30/10/2011, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Another arguement i have from some other sources are that, considering
>>> how "hand on" person he is, won't be surprise if he has a major impack
>>> on their accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Regardless, does it matter? After all, come to the products, and the
>>> products are useful, accessible, and become an essential in our life.
>>> 
>>> Considering how much Apple take on their Grapic approach, and how much
>>> it can be also accessible, that prove something isn't it? After all,
>>> who would have thought, graphics and accessibility can go together
>>> hand in hand. 5 years ago, if you are blind, and tell someone that you
>>> want a totally touch phone  they think you insane too.
>>> 
>>> I wonder what sort of biography will people like founders of Freedom
>>> Scientific, Humanware, GWMicro, and so on gotta write? "Provide less
>>> than satisfy accessible product, and sucking every bit of your money
>>> out of your bank"?
>>> 
>>> On 30/10/2011, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There wasn't any mention of accessibility in the biography at all, but
 then again, hardly any of the individual features of osx or iOs were
 mentioned iether.
 The opinion that I have is that whilst he probably had little to no
 involvement in accessibility, its because of him that it works so well
 - he probably saw a few bits here and there and gave them his blessing
 or dismissed them.
 
 On 30/10/2011, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I didn't read the book yet but, How much did Jobs really have to do with
> making Apple products accessible?  I mean, was he like overseeing the
> maturation process of voiceover like IOS or OSX?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Oct 29, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> I've just read the biography, too. I'm amazed he lived as long as he
>> did.
>> 
>> I also think the author was a bit harsh, pointing out that Steve Jobs
>> wasn't into philanthropy — for me, he went one better, he aimed to make
>> Apple products accessible to everyone. That attitude is much less
>> patronising!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 29 Oct 2011, at 22:32, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> I've finished his biography; it wasn't light reading but it was very
>>> interesting and I'm glad I read it.
>>> 
>>> On 29/10/2011, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
 That was great reading! Thanks for posting.
 
 Nektarios.
 
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importing an entire folder into iTunes?

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Hi all,

Just wondering if there's a way to do this other than selecting all the songs 
and using Command-O.  It seems like I remember there being a command that will 
allow you to import an entire folder, but I can't find it. 
TIA,
Donna

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creating audio cd for the car

[Gerry Cook]

Hi all! I tried to burn a music cd so i could put it in a normal cd player, but 
when i went to vo m and arrowed down to burn the contence of the cd to a blank 
it said the name but seemed to just burn an image and there was no music, and 
there seems no option in itunes once you've ripped it in to your itunes library 
to burn it to a blank cd. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Gerry Cook
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Re: (round table) podcasting on the mac?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Anouk,
I'm not a great multi people podcaster myself. So far I only did podcasts with 
my usb microphone, but from what I know, when 2 people skype together, they 
each record their own audio stream, so that it is of high quality, and not of 
skype quality. I don't know how Kevin Ciao does it when he is being interviewed 
by other people, but voiceover on, and similar podcasts that he appears in, all 
sound great. I think Florian, also on this list, once told me about each 
individual recording his her own voice, and then later overlaying the tracks in 
amadeus. Hopefully an experienced podcaster will comment on this. I'm 
interested in the details as well.

Best,
Paul.
On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> Me and a friend of mine would like to make our very first podcast and we 
> would like to do that on the mac. We communicate through skype, is there an 
> audio editing app that can record straight from skype or do i need to use one 
> program to record the conversation to record and another to edit? 
> I hear garageband or amadeus pro can both be used but can they record from 
> skype and what are the pros and cons of either?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
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(round table) podcasting on the mac?

[Anouk Radix]

Hello everyone,
Me and a friend of mine would like to make our very first podcast and we would 
like to do that on the mac. We communicate through skype, is there an audio 
editing app that can record straight from skype or do i need to use one program 
to record the conversation to record and another to edit? 
I hear garageband or amadeus pro can both be used but can they record from 
skype and what are the pros and cons of either?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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