Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[johns.kary]

Ok, what am I missing hear?
I go to the blndmicemart webpage and all I get is how to contact them and 
nothing else.
I google the blind mice mart movie  volt, and I get a page saying the movies 
have been uploaded to sendspace, but no movies  are listed on the page.
It says for our member's but there's no way to be come a member that I can see.
What's going on? am I missing something?
 It's been an exceptionally long frustrating day, so it's entirely  possible  
the problem's all me, and I'm missing something very obvious. :)

Kari. 
On 07/11/2011, at 2:30 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> Yes, free and completely accessible using VO.  
> 
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Kliphton wrote:
> 
>> Is this free?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens
>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:13 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>> 
>> Yes, a google search for blind mice mega mall took me to the page.  After
>> signing up, the movie vault showed up as an option.  
>> 
>> -Greg
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you; I'll give this a try. 
>>> AS for the movie vault, I suspect you may have to sign up first, but
>> here's the page which comes up when I've logged in and clicked on "Blind
>> Mice Movie Vault":
>>> https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Movie_Vault?recentlyAdded=t
>>> rue On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Christene,
 Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the
>> options tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.
>> Once on the options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you
>> want your files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change
>> it.  Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have
>> mine under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way
>> they are all together.  
 
 Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As
>> others noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got
>> searching through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and
>> webkit.  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Greg
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
 
> Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If,
>> for example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the
>> path where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when
>> I interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the
>> title of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album
>> list of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
> Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
> 
>> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press
>> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the
>> music library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an
>> mp3 and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes
>> library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
>>> Christine
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
 
 The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described 
 movies and television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them
>> onto my iPhone.
 However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not 
 being put in my iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one 
 case at a time, or aother way to get them onto my iPhone without 
 resorting to the iTunes library? Should I just "drag and drop" into
>> the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
 Christine
 
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Greg Aikens]

Yes, free and completely accessible using VO.  


On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Kliphton wrote:

> Is this free?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:13 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
> 
> Yes, a google search for blind mice mega mall took me to the page.  After
> signing up, the movie vault showed up as an option.  
> 
> -Greg
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Thank you; I'll give this a try. 
>> AS for the movie vault, I suspect you may have to sign up first, but
> here's the page which comes up when I've logged in and clicked on "Blind
> Mice Movie Vault":
>> https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Movie_Vault?recentlyAdded=t
>> rue On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Christene,
>>> Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the
> options tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.
> Once on the options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you
> want your files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change
> it.  Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have
> mine under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way
> they are all together.  
>>> 
>>> Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As
> others noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got
> searching through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and
> webkit.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>> 
 Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If,
> for example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the
> path where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when
> I interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the
> title of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album
> list of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
 Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
 
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
 
> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press
> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the
> music library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an
> mp3 and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes
> library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
>> Christine
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
>>> Grassman
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>>> 
>>> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described 
>>> movies and television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them
> onto my iPhone.
>>> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not 
>>> being put in my iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one 
>>> case at a time, or aother way to get them onto my iPhone without 
>>> resorting to the iTunes library? Should I just "drag and drop" into
> the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
>>> Christine
>>> 
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RE: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Kliphton]

Is this free?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

Yes, a google search for blind mice mega mall took me to the page.  After
signing up, the movie vault showed up as an option.  

-Greg

On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Thank you; I'll give this a try. 
> AS for the movie vault, I suspect you may have to sign up first, but
here's the page which comes up when I've logged in and clicked on "Blind
Mice Movie Vault":
> https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Movie_Vault?recentlyAdded=t
> rue On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christene,
>> Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the
options tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.
Once on the options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you
want your files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change
it.  Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have
mine under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way
they are all together.  
>> 
>> Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As
others noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got
searching through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and
webkit.  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Greg
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If,
for example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the
path where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when
I interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the
title of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album
list of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
>>> Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
>>> 
 Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press
command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
 
> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the
music library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an
mp3 and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes
library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
> Christine
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
>> Grassman
>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>> 
>> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described 
>> movies and television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them
onto my iPhone.
>> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not 
>> being put in my iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one 
>> case at a time, or aother way to get them onto my iPhone without 
>> resorting to the iTunes library? Should I just "drag and drop" into
the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
>> Christine
>> 
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Re: Type in braille app for iphone

[Teresa Cochran]

That looks very interesting. I'll play with it soon.

Teresa

"Visualize whirled peas."

On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:

> Hello listers… I have found a pretty neat app for a typing allternitave. It 
> is called Type in braille, itunes link
> is 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/typeinbraille/id474798075?ls=1
> Here is the Help Guied from the website  to help you get started using the app
> 
> http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille/help
> 
> TypeInBraille Help
> 
> TypeInBraille is a mobile application that allows visually impaired users to 
> type using Braille symbols. To use TypeInBraille turn VoiceOver on.
> 
> How to Enter a character
> 
> In Braille, each cell consists of three rows. On each row there are two dots, 
> in one of these combinations: one raised dot on the left, one raised dot on 
> the right, two raised dots, no raised dot.
> Four gestures are available to insert each row. You insert a Braille 
> character row by row. The iPhone touchscreen is vertically split into two 
> rectangles, one on the left, one on the right. The gestures are listed below.
> 
>   • One finger tap on the left rectangle: one raised dot on the left;
>   • One finger tap on the right rectangle: one raised dot on the right;
>   • Two finger tap: two dots;
>   • Three finger tap: no dot.
> Whenever you insert three gestures, each one corresponding to a row of the 
> Braille cell, the character is entered.
> 
> Example 1
> 
> Use the following gestures to enter the letter “a”:
> 
>   • one finger tap on the left rectangle;
>   • three finger tap;
>   • three finger tap.
> Since some characters contain dots on the first and/or second row only, there 
> is one additional gesture to speed up typing: with the “one finger right 
> flick” you can specify that the character terminates. For example, you can 
> also enter the letter “a” as follows, using two gestures only:
> 
>   • one finger tap on the left rectangle;
>   • one finger right flick.
> Example 2
> 
> Let’s see another example with the letter “f”. Use the following gestures to 
> insert the letter “f”:
> 
>   • two finger tap;
>   • one finger tap on the left rectangle;
>   • three finger tap.
> You can also insert the letter “f”  as follows:
> 
>   • two finger tap;
>   • one finger tap on the left rectangle;
>   • one finger right flick.
> Note that you can tap with two fingers wherever on the touchscreen. You are 
> not required to tap with one finger on the left rectangle and the other 
> finger on the right rectangle.
> 
> Example 3
> 
> Use the following gestures to insert the letter “l”:
> one finger left tap;
> one finger left tap;
> one finger left tap.
> Note that you can tap three times on the same position to save time.
> 
> How To: Insert a Blank Space or a New Line
> 
> Since a blank space is a Braille cell without any dot, you can insert it by 
> repeating three times the three finger tap. Alternatively, and much faster, 
> you can make the one finger right flick gesture.
> 
> To enter a new line, use this gesture: one finger down flick.
> 
> List of Braille characters
> 
> In the following we report the combination of gestures needed to enter the 
> characters.
> 
>   • a | one finger left tap, one finger right flick
>   • b | one finger left tap, one finger left tap, one finger right flick
>   • c | two finger tap, one finger right flick
>   • d | two finger tap, one finger right tap, one finger right flick
>   • e | one finger left tap, one finger right tap, one finger right flick
>   • f | two finger tap, one finger left tap, one finger right flick
>   • g | two finger tap, two finger tap, one finger right flick
>   • h | one finger left tap, two finger tap, one finger right flick
>   • i | one finger right tap, one finger left tap, one finger right flick
>   • j | one finger right tap, two finger tap, one finger right flick
>   • k | one finger left tap, three finger tap, one finger left tap
>   • l | one finger left tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
>   • m | two finger tap, three finger tap, one finger left tap
>   • n | two finger tap, one finger right tap, one finger left tap
>   • o | one finger left tap, one finger right tap, one finger left tap
>   • p | two finger tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
>   • q | two finger tap, two finger tap, one finger left tap
>   • r | one finger left tap, two finger tap, one finger left tap
>   • s | one finger right tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
>   • t | one finger right tap, two finger tap, one finger left tap
>   • u | one finger left tap, three finger tap, two finger tap
>   • v | one finger left tap, one finger left tap, two finger tap
>   • w | one finger right tap, two finger tap, one finger right tap
>   • x | two finger tap, three finger tap, two finger tap
>   • y

Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Greg Aikens]

Yes, a google search for blind mice mega mall took me to the page.  After 
signing up, the movie vault showed up as an option.  

-Greg

On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Thank you; I'll give this a try. 
> AS for the movie vault, I suspect you may have to sign up first, but here's 
> the page which comes up when I've logged in and clicked on "Blind Mice Movie 
> Vault":
> https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Movie_Vault?recentlyAdded=true
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christene,
>> Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the options 
>> tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.  Once on the 
>> options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you want your 
>> files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change it.  
>> Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have mine 
>> under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way they 
>> are all together.  
>> 
>> Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As others 
>> noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got 
>> searching through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and 
>> webkit.  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Greg
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If, for 
>>> example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the 
>>> path where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when 
>>> I interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the 
>>> title of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the 
>>> album list of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
>>> Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
>>> 
 Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
 command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
 
> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the 
> music library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is 
> an mp3 and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the 
> iTunes library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
> Christine
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>> 
>> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
>> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
>> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put 
>> in my
>> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother 
>> way
>> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? 
>> Should I
>> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? 
>> TIA.
>> Christine
>> 
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Kristyn Leigh]

you're right. Movie is not a choice for an audio file. I put mine in the books 
library.  I apologize for the confusion. 

Kristyn 
On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> Hi Christene,
> Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the options 
> tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.  Once on the 
> options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you want your 
> files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change it.  
> Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have mine 
> under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way they 
> are all together.  
> 
> Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As others 
> noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got 
> searching through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and 
> webkit.  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If, for 
>> example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the 
>> path where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when 
>> I interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the 
>> title of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album 
>> list of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
>> Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
>> 
>>> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
>>> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>> 
 Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the 
 music library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is 
 an mp3 and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the 
 iTunes library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
 Christine
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
> 
> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in 
> my
> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother 
> way
> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? 
> Should I
> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? 
> TIA.
> Christine
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Fwd: Mail and Safari

[Johnny Angel!]

Hi again everyone,

I don't mean to be a pest at all, but I'm wondering if you folks saw my 
questions below.  I was having some connectivity problems last night and didn't 
know if this got through to you.  Anyway, I really need some help on this stuff 
so, here it goes once again...

Thanks,
Johnny

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Johnny Angel! 
> Subject: Mail and Safari
> Date: November 6, 2011 12:17:42 AM EDT
> To: MacVisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Okay, so I've come to the end of my rope.  I'm not really mad or anything, 
> just considerably frustrated to slowly pulling out my hair.  Now mind you, I 
> don't really know what I am doing on the MBP yet, but, nutting seems to be 
> working the way it used to.  So.  Can someone waddle me through resetting my 
> Lion mail and Safari to their original factory settings?  One thing though, I 
> don't want to loose any of my bookmarks in Safari, nor do I want to loose any 
> of my many mailboxes and saved posts - especially from this illustrious list.
> 
> I only wish to reset these two programs back to the way they were when I 
> first installed Lion.
> 
> So, dear folks, what should I do first?
> 
> Johnny B
> Johnny Angel!
> beefca...@neo.rr.com
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stop saying "data detector"

[Ryan Mann]

Whenever VoiceOver finds an email address it says "data detector."  I 
understand why it does this, but sometimes it's annoying. Is there any way to 
stop VoiceOver from saying this?

Thanks.

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Re: .brf book on voiceOver

[Brian Albriton]

On 11/6/11, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> As far as I know, it's still on the Apple web site, at least it was earlier
> this year. You have to go to accessibility, and then I think VoiceOver to
> find it. I have the one for Snow Leopard, which I think is still the brf
> file. The one I have is in two volumes, and Apple was letting us download
> without cost. I bought the volumes from National Braille Press, I think for
> about $18.
>
> Regards,
> Gigi
>
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Brian Albriton wrote:
>
>> A couple years ago  I ran across an actual book on voice over but have
>> lost track of it. I am getting some use out of the available online
>> help but if there is a book or two on VoiceOver I'd like to know.
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Re: apple remote desktop 3

[Cody]

That is how I've been doing it, but with the end user following my instructions 
over skype, but I just thought it'd be easier to remote in like jaws tandem, 
but I suppose that's not doable….
On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hi there. 
> So, if you also establish a Skype connection, do you think that it will be 
> possible to listen to voice over at the other end? 
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Nov 7, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi cody,
>> 
>> ARD is accessible in most everything except when you are taking control of 
>> another's computer.  You can install packages, copy apps and/or files, text 
>> chat, send Unix commands and a host of other things.  The problem comes in 
>> when you are Observing or taking control of another computer.  These 
>> functions are totally graphical, thus the APIs are not recognized between 
>> machines.  Now, maybe there is some sort of way to circumvent this but I've 
>> not investigated it enough to make any informed comments.  I've also never 
>> used it outside of a given subnet.  That is, I can do everything I need to 
>> do with ARD within my site but if I try to connect to other computers within 
>> our organization that reside in another site and thus another subnet, then 
>> they are not visible to me.  Again, there may be some sort of setting that 
>> will allow for that but I've not yet found it.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2011-11-06, at 11:08 AM, Cody wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if investing in apple remote desktop version 3 is worth 
>>> my time, in terms of accessibility. My friend Geno, who just joined the 
>>> list wil no doubt need some help in the future on his mac. What I don't 
>>> know is if I can remote into his machine just like one would do with jaws 
>>> tandem and take control of his box and show him things that need to be 
>>> done. For $80 it better make my coffee, but does anyone have any experience?
>>> 
>>> Cody
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Re: apple remote desktop 3

[Cody]

Hety Tim, if there is audio throughput like in terminal services, perhaps I'd 
be able to hear the other person's voiceover, then perhaps that could work. I'd 
want to work interactively with a user over the internet…so i guess that won't 
work…but yeah thanks for the input man

Cody
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> Hi cody,
> 
> ARD is accessible in most everything except when you are taking control of 
> another's computer.  You can install packages, copy apps and/or files, text 
> chat, send Unix commands and a host of other things.  The problem comes in 
> when you are Observing or taking control of another computer.  These 
> functions are totally graphical, thus the APIs are not recognized between 
> machines.  Now, maybe there is some sort of way to circumvent this but I've 
> not investigated it enough to make any informed comments.  I've also never 
> used it outside of a given subnet.  That is, I can do everything I need to do 
> with ARD within my site but if I try to connect to other computers within our 
> organization that reside in another site and thus another subnet, then they 
> are not visible to me.  Again, there may be some sort of setting that will 
> allow for that but I've not yet found it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2011-11-06, at 11:08 AM, Cody wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if investing in apple remote desktop version 3 is worth 
>> my time, in terms of accessibility. My friend Geno, who just joined the list 
>> wil no doubt need some help in the future on his mac. What I don't know is 
>> if I can remote into his machine just like one would do with jaws tandem and 
>> take control of his box and show him things that need to be done. For $80 it 
>> better make my coffee, but does anyone have any experience?
>> 
>> Cody
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Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac

[Nektarios Mallas]

Well, thanks to both of you. 
I haven't thought of using it this way. I will give it a try. 
I am also experimenting with the stanza reader. However, this application 
doesn't seem to be updated recently. 

Nektarios.

On Nov 6, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hello Nektarios,
> 
> As Anne mentioned, you can avoid the VoiceOver crashes by just navigating to 
> the next page instead of interacting  (Fn+Down Arrow to page down on my 
> MacBook Pro), which will also get you past the cover graphic. You do have to 
> read by page, but you can just press the right arrow key to do this for 
> successive pages, and you can make the font size small if you want more 
> content on a single page.  Adobe Digital Editions Preview supports searching 
> in the text and setting bookmarks.  It will work for reading DRM-free eBooks, 
> or books that have the Adobe ADE version of DRM, which includes books you can 
> buy from Kobo Books and OverDrive ePub books that can be borrowed by download 
> through public libraries in the U.S., Canada, Australia, the U.K. and some 
> other countries.
> 
> An alternate suggestion for reading ePub books without DRM, if you don't want 
> to use the Copy Last Spoken Phrase to Clipboard (VO-Shift-C) and paste into 
> TextEdit, is to use iText Express. The Express version of iText is free, and 
> available from the Mac's App Store.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 04:19, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Nektarios,
>> 
>> If you just go to next page, it will read automatically, but if you want to 
>> look at the text closely, or read with a Braille display, then 
>> unfortunately, you have to use the Copy Last Spoken Phrase to Clipboard 
>> command (VO-Shift-C) to copy the page into a word processor such as 
>> TextEdit. The good thing is that you don't have to listen to the whole page 
>> before doing this.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 14:16, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Anne. 
>>> How do you actually read something with this program? 
>>> I downloaded and installed it, but as soon as I try to interact with the 
>>> text, the program crashes on me. 
>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Francisco,
 
 I use Adobe Digital Editions Preview to read ebooks on my Mac. It can read 
 some protected books such as those from Kobo and it's free.
 
 Here's the download link:
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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> Hi,
> 
> Can you suggest me an epub ebook reader for Mac?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Francisco
> 
> 
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Re: apple remote desktop 3

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi there. 
So, if you also establish a Skype connection, do you think that it will be 
possible to listen to voice over at the other end? 

Nektarios.

On Nov 7, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi cody,
> 
> ARD is accessible in most everything except when you are taking control of 
> another's computer.  You can install packages, copy apps and/or files, text 
> chat, send Unix commands and a host of other things.  The problem comes in 
> when you are Observing or taking control of another computer.  These 
> functions are totally graphical, thus the APIs are not recognized between 
> machines.  Now, maybe there is some sort of way to circumvent this but I've 
> not investigated it enough to make any informed comments.  I've also never 
> used it outside of a given subnet.  That is, I can do everything I need to do 
> with ARD within my site but if I try to connect to other computers within our 
> organization that reside in another site and thus another subnet, then they 
> are not visible to me.  Again, there may be some sort of setting that will 
> allow for that but I've not yet found it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2011-11-06, at 11:08 AM, Cody wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if investing in apple remote desktop version 3 is worth 
>> my time, in terms of accessibility. My friend Geno, who just joined the list 
>> wil no doubt need some help in the future on his mac. What I don't know is 
>> if I can remote into his machine just like one would do with jaws tandem and 
>> take control of his box and show him things that need to be done. For $80 it 
>> better make my coffee, but does anyone have any experience?
>> 
>> Cody
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Christine Grassman]

Thank you; I'll give this a try. 
AS for the movie vault, I suspect you may have to sign up first, but here's the 
page which comes up when I've logged in and clicked on "Blind Mice Movie Vault":
https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Movie_Vault?recentlyAdded=true
On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

> Hi Christene,
> Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the options 
> tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.  Once on the 
> options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you want your 
> files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change it.  
> Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have mine 
> under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way they 
> are all together.  
> 
> Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As others 
> noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got 
> searching through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and 
> webkit.  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If, for 
>> example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the 
>> path where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when 
>> I interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the 
>> title of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album 
>> list of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
>> Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
>> 
>>> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
>>> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>> 
 Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the 
 music library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is 
 an mp3 and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the 
 iTunes library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
 Christine
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
> 
> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in 
> my
> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother 
> way
> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? 
> Should I
> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? 
> TIA.
> Christine
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Re: garageband

[Megan L]

Hey,
Make sure that the first track is on bar one, beat one on your time line. Then 
select your next track. You can either cut it, move to where you want it to 
begin playing on the time line with your arrow keys, and then just paste it in. 
Or you can hit VO command accent to start moving the item. VoiceOver should 
tell you where the track's region begins, so just move it with VO right arrow 
until it's where you want it to start playing and then press escape to stop 
moving it.

HTH,
MegOn 2011-11-05, at 6:16 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I need mix two tracks, but the second track must start after the first. How 
> can i do this?
> Other possibility is record 
> the letter of the song on the track. How can do this?Thanks,
> 
> Francisco
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Re: Apple VIS Campaign of the month!

[Justin Ekis]

Well, it would certainly be nice to do a large-scale campaign writing to 
dropbox about accessibility problems with their mac software. However, applevis 
is a site dealing with iOS apps. Since the DropBox iPhone app is very 
accessible, they probably wouldn't persue this issue. Good thinking though.

Justin

On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

Hi all!
Apple VIS have started to campaign each month!
This month's is Skype and Apple VIS have made up a short form that you can 
submit and if you do not like or want to edit the main text field, you can do 
so!
Or just send it as it is!
You will have to register with Apple VIS to send this form and you can also 
submit suggestions for app's for future campaign's!
What do people think about doing dropbox!
Anyway you all have a great day!
Colin
Qapla!

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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Greg Aikens]

Hi Christene,
Once you have opened the edit info dialogue, you want to get to the options 
tab.  There is a list of several tabs at the top of the window.  Once on the 
options tab there is a pop up box labelled "Media kind".  If you want your 
files to show up somewhere else, this is where you would change it.  
Unfortunately, saving it as a movie is not an option for mp3's.  I have mine 
under music and list the artist for each as Blind Mice Mart.  That way they are 
all together.  

Also, could you provide the link you are using to download stuff?  As others 
noted, the link is no longer on the home page.  Also, the links I got searching 
through google appear to bring up a blank page in safari and webkit.  

Thanks,

Greg
On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If, for 
> example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the path 
> where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when I 
> interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the title 
> of the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album list 
> of the music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
> Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
> 
>> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
>> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the music 
>>> library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an mp3 
>>> and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes 
>>> library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
>>> Christine
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
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 Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
 
 The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
 television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
 However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in 
 my
 iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way
 to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should 
 I
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Re: apple remote desktop 3

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi cody,

ARD is accessible in most everything except when you are taking control of 
another's computer.  You can install packages, copy apps and/or files, text 
chat, send Unix commands and a host of other things.  The problem comes in when 
you are Observing or taking control of another computer.  These functions are 
totally graphical, thus the APIs are not recognized between machines.  Now, 
maybe there is some sort of way to circumvent this but I've not investigated it 
enough to make any informed comments.  I've also never used it outside of a 
given subnet.  That is, I can do everything I need to do with ARD within my 
site but if I try to connect to other computers within our organization that 
reside in another site and thus another subnet, then they are not visible to 
me.  Again, there may be some sort of setting that will allow for that but I've 
not yet found it.

HTH.

Later...

On 2011-11-06, at 11:08 AM, Cody wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I'm just wondering if investing in apple remote desktop version 3 is worth my 
> time, in terms of accessibility. My friend Geno, who just joined the list wil 
> no doubt need some help in the future on his mac. What I don't know is if I 
> can remote into his machine just like one would do with jaws tandem and take 
> control of his box and show him things that need to be done. For $80 it 
> better make my coffee, but does anyone have any experience?
> 
> Cody
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Type in braille app for iphone

[Ed Worrell]

Hello listers… I have found a pretty neat app for a typing allternitave. It is 
called Type in braille, itunes link
is 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/typeinbraille/id474798075?ls=1
Here is the Help Guied from the website  to help you get started using the app

http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/typeinbraille/help

TypeInBraille Help

TypeInBraille is a mobile application that allows visually impaired users to 
type using Braille symbols. To use TypeInBraille turn VoiceOver on.

How to Enter a character

In Braille, each cell consists of three rows. On each row there are two dots, 
in one of these combinations: one raised dot on the left, one raised dot on the 
right, two raised dots, no raised dot.
Four gestures are available to insert each row. You insert a Braille character 
row by row. The iPhone touchscreen is vertically split into two rectangles, one 
on the left, one on the right. The gestures are listed below.

One finger tap on the left rectangle: one raised dot on the left;
One finger tap on the right rectangle: one raised dot on the right;
Two finger tap: two dots;
Three finger tap: no dot.
Whenever you insert three gestures, each one corresponding to a row of the 
Braille cell, the character is entered.

Example 1

Use the following gestures to enter the letter “a”:

one finger tap on the left rectangle;
three finger tap;
three finger tap.
Since some characters contain dots on the first and/or second row only, there 
is one additional gesture to speed up typing: with the “one finger right flick” 
you can specify that the character terminates. For example, you can also enter 
the letter “a” as follows, using two gestures only:

one finger tap on the left rectangle;
one finger right flick.
Example 2

Let’s see another example with the letter “f”. Use the following gestures to 
insert the letter “f”:

two finger tap;
one finger tap on the left rectangle;
three finger tap.
You can also insert the letter “f”  as follows:

two finger tap;
one finger tap on the left rectangle;
one finger right flick.
Note that you can tap with two fingers wherever on the touchscreen. You are not 
required to tap with one finger on the left rectangle and the other finger on 
the right rectangle.

Example 3

Use the following gestures to insert the letter “l”:
one finger left tap;
one finger left tap;
one finger left tap.
Note that you can tap three times on the same position to save time.

How To: Insert a Blank Space or a New Line

Since a blank space is a Braille cell without any dot, you can insert it by 
repeating three times the three finger tap. Alternatively, and much faster, you 
can make the one finger right flick gesture.

To enter a new line, use this gesture: one finger down flick.

List of Braille characters

In the following we report the combination of gestures needed to enter the 
characters.

a | one finger left tap, one finger right flick
b | one finger left tap, one finger left tap, one finger right flick
c | two finger tap, one finger right flick
d | two finger tap, one finger right tap, one finger right flick
e | one finger left tap, one finger right tap, one finger right flick
f | two finger tap, one finger left tap, one finger right flick
g | two finger tap, two finger tap, one finger right flick
h | one finger left tap, two finger tap, one finger right flick
i | one finger right tap, one finger left tap, one finger right flick
j | one finger right tap, two finger tap, one finger right flick
k | one finger left tap, three finger tap, one finger left tap
l | one finger left tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
m | two finger tap, three finger tap, one finger left tap
n | two finger tap, one finger right tap, one finger left tap
o | one finger left tap, one finger right tap, one finger left tap
p | two finger tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
q | two finger tap, two finger tap, one finger left tap
r | one finger left tap, two finger tap, one finger left tap
s | one finger right tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
t | one finger right tap, two finger tap, one finger left tap
u | one finger left tap, three finger tap, two finger tap
v | one finger left tap, one finger left tap, two finger tap
w | one finger right tap, two finger tap, one finger right tap
x | two finger tap, three finger tap, two finger tap
y | two finger tap, one finger right tap, two finger tap
z | one finger left tap, one finger right tap, two finger tap
. | three finger tap, three finger tap, one finger left tap
, | three finger tap, one finger left tap, three finger tap
? | three finger tap, one finger left tap, one finger right tap
‘ | three finger tap, three finger tap, one finger right tap
: | three finger tap, two finger tap, three finger tap
; | three finger tap, one finger left tap, one finger left tap
” | one finger right tap, three finger tap, three finger tap
# | one finger right tap, one finger right tap, two finger tap
$ | one finger right tap, three finger tap, one finger right ta

Re: Apple VIS Campaign of the month!

[Red.Falcon]

Hi David!
>From what I gather it's the mobile app!
And I think thats what the Apple VIS group deal with!
But you can have a look on there site!
As for Spotify You could make that suggestion to them!
hth Colin

On 6 Nov 2011, at 22:44, David Eagle wrote:

> OK, great, sounds good. But what's inaccessible about Skype. I seem to manage 
> fine using it? I'd be happy to sign a petition, but as I don't find anything 
> wrong with it it would seem a bit silly to do so. Now what about Spotify for 
> next month? They've completely ignored my Emails about accessibility on the 
> Mac. 
> 
> On 6 Nov 2011, at 22:33, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi David!
>> The Apple VIS group have decided to take a app once a month and [I suppose ] 
>> if a concerted effort might make a difference!
>> hth Colin
>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 22:23, David Eagle wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, What on earth is this about?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 19:20, Red.Falcon wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all!
 Apple VIS have started to campaign each month!
 This month's is Skype and Apple VIS have made up a short form that you can 
 submit and if you do not like or want to edit the main text field, you can 
 do so!
 Or just send it as it is!
 You will have to register with Apple VIS to send this form and you can 
 also submit suggestions for app's for future campaign's!
 What do people think about doing dropbox!
 Anyway you all have a great day!
 Colin
 Qapla!
 
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Re: Apple VIS Campaign of the month!

[David Eagle]

OK, great, sounds good. But what's inaccessible about Skype. I seem to manage 
fine using it? I'd be happy to sign a petition, but as I don't find anything 
wrong with it it would seem a bit silly to do so. Now what about Spotify for 
next month? They've completely ignored my Emails about accessibility on the 
Mac. 

On 6 Nov 2011, at 22:33, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi David!
> The Apple VIS group have decided to take a app once a month and [I suppose ] 
> if a concerted effort might make a difference!
> hth Colin
> On 6 Nov 2011, at 22:23, David Eagle wrote:
> 
>> Hi, What on earth is this about?
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 19:20, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all!
>>> Apple VIS have started to campaign each month!
>>> This month's is Skype and Apple VIS have made up a short form that you can 
>>> submit and if you do not like or want to edit the main text field, you can 
>>> do so!
>>> Or just send it as it is!
>>> You will have to register with Apple VIS to send this form and you can also 
>>> submit suggestions for app's for future campaign's!
>>> What do people think about doing dropbox!
>>> Anyway you all have a great day!
>>> Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> 
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
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Re: Apple VIS Campaign of the month!

[Red.Falcon]

Hi David!
The Apple VIS group have decided to take a app once a month and [I suppose ] if 
a concerted effort might make a difference!
hth Colin
On 6 Nov 2011, at 22:23, David Eagle wrote:

> Hi, What on earth is this about?
> 
> 
> On 6 Nov 2011, at 19:20, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi all!
>> Apple VIS have started to campaign each month!
>> This month's is Skype and Apple VIS have made up a short form that you can 
>> submit and if you do not like or want to edit the main text field, you can 
>> do so!
>> Or just send it as it is!
>> You will have to register with Apple VIS to send this form and you can also 
>> submit suggestions for app's for future campaign's!
>> What do people think about doing dropbox!
>> Anyway you all have a great day!
>> Colin
>> Qapla!
>> 
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
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Re: Apple VIS Campaign of the month!

[David Eagle]

Hi, What on earth is this about?


On 6 Nov 2011, at 19:20, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi all!
> Apple VIS have started to campaign each month!
> This month's is Skype and Apple VIS have made up a short form that you can 
> submit and if you do not like or want to edit the main text field, you can do 
> so!
> Or just send it as it is!
> You will have to register with Apple VIS to send this form and you can also 
> submit suggestions for app's for future campaign's!
> What do people think about doing dropbox!
> Anyway you all have a great day!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
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Re: Question about e-mail

[David Eagle]

A conversation is exactly what we're doing right now. Basically, there are a 
number of people all contributing to the same mail topic. Here's how it works: 
find the conversation you want to read. Press enter on it or VO O to open the 
message. You can scroll left and right through the messages with the cursor 
left and right keys. The furthest right will give you the first message in that 
conversation and you go through the later messages in that conversation by 
pressing cursor left. To close the conversation press Command W.

Hope this helps.


On 3 Nov 2011, at 20:56, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Just downloaded lion all by myself.  Well, if I tell the truth I had  little 
> help :)  Have the new lay out and it said something about conversations.  
> What does that mean.  What are they?  What do I do with them?  Most 
> importantly, what are the commands?
> 
> Thanks for the help in advance.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Nov 3, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Maccessibility wrote:
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>> The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #18 - Questions Questions Questions
>> 
>> In episode 18 of the Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast, the knights answer
>> questions submitted by users via email and Twitter. Topics range from advice 
>> for
>> new switchers, productivity, use of iOS and Mac applications, and more.
>> We'd like to thank everyone who sent in questions. If you have a question 
>> you'd
>> like to have answered on [...]
>> 
>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/11/03/the-mac-cessibility-round-table-podcast-18-questions-questions-questions/
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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Red.Falcon]

Hi again!
Well I've found that if all the tracks are tagged properly then it does not 
matter how many tracks of a album there are!
They will all turn up in that album in grid view!
So you could have only 6 of a  11 track album but you can still get rid of them!
The only problem I've encountered was if a guest artist is named in the artist 
field, then there can be 2 albums one with all the tracks with the artist name, 
then another with the artist and guest artist  and will only have that one 
track in it!
Of course if the original artist has more than one of these best's  then you 
could end up with a few of those 1 track albums!
hth Colin

On 6 Nov 2011, at 21:25, Esther wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Colin's suggestion should work too, if it's a complete album.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:19, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul!
>> Just for the purposes of getting rid of that album!
>> Why don't you change the view to grid and pick the album view!
>> I've got mine like this and all the albums are in order and all I've got to 
>> do is open that album and select all and delete!
>> Album gone!
>> hth Colin
>> 
>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 20:22, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther,
>>> Again this answer is worth saving for later reference so I did that, but I 
>>> still have questions.
>>> 
>>> 1. I'm trying to find tracks, all belonging to one album from one artist, 
>>> present in my itunes library, and I want to get rid of them in itunes. 
>>> Here's what I do, but it fails.
>>> 1. Start itunes, go to the music browser.
>>> 2. Select an artist and then an album.
>>> 3. From the songs table, I hit vo command f5 to pull the mouse over to the 
>>> vo cursor, and then I click with vo shift space, just to get itunes focus 
>>> into the songs table.
>>> 4. Now, I move to the first song and I hit shift plus down arrow, keeping 
>>> shift down, and repeatedly I hit down arrow. This does not select any 
>>> tracks, while if I shift arrow down in the songs table when I did not use 
>>> the music browser before trying to shift arrow, selection works just fine. 
>>> In other words: if I open up itunes, and I start shift arrowing in the 
>>> songs table, then selection happens just fine. However, when trying to 
>>> select tracks after having narrowed down the songs table, by selecting an 
>>> artist and album from the music browser first, then selection does not work 
>>> any more. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
>>> 
>>> 2. Why would you want to use playlists anyway? Are they necessary in order 
>>> to delete tracks? Only time I can think of, when a playlist is necessary, 
>>> is if I want to make an audio cd from selected tracks, because then, I must 
>>> add them to a playlist, in order for itunes to go burn them to cd. When 
>>> wanting to delete tracks from my itunes library, do playlists come into 
>>> play at all?
>>> 
>>> Curious.
>>> Paul.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Paul,
 
 Can you select and use the Shift+Arrow keys in the songs table if you 
 first click in this table with VO-Shift-Space? First, I find that I can 
 select the album in the column browser and create the playlist directly 
 from there If I click on the selection with VO-Shift-Space and then press 
 Command-Shift-N to create a new playlist from my selection without having 
 to navigate to the songs table.  If I want to create a playlist after 
 navigating to the songs table (e.g., I stop interacting with the column 
 browser and navigate to the songs table and interact), I'll first click 
 with VO-Shift-Space and then navigate around to do my selections, 
 including holding down the Shift key.  However, I can only delete tracks 
 if I select them from the songs table, and not from the column browser.
 
 When you delete tracks from playlists you generally do not delete them 
 from your iTunes library -- only from the playlist.  If you want to force 
 deletion of tracks that you select from a playlist, you have to press 
 Option+Delete instead of just Delete.  Then iTunes will prompt you with a 
 dialog window asking you whether you really want to delete these tracks 
 from your library. 
 
 Hope this answers your questions.  Write back if anything is still not 
 clear.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 09:41, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
> Hi Esther,
> To clarify my last message, I forgot to add that once I have found an 
> album using the music browser, itunes will not let me select any tracks. 
> Usually, I can do it using the shift and vertical arrows, but this is not 
> possible after I narrow down the tracks listing inside the itunes music 
> table, by selecting an album using the command b music browser. Any idea 
> why shift arrows does not work? It would be the easiest way to find and 
> get rid of tracks.
> 
> Best, thanks in advance.

Re: itunes sort by artist

[Esther]

Hi Paul,

Odd, but I don't have this problem.  First of all, you don't need to select the 
artist first if you want to directly select the album by title.  That's simply 
a convenience if you want to view a list of albums by the artist. This sounds 
like a focus issue.  I usually route my mouse cursor to my VoiceOver cursor 
(VO-Command-F5) and then click with VO-Shift-Space when I am on the first entry 
I wish to select.  You can check what items are selected at any time with 
VO-F6.  If I then press Shift+Down Arrow, my selection is extended, and 
VoiceOver tells me I have two rows selected. I can continue to hold down the 
Shift key and arrow down to extend my selection.  I can also press Command+A to 
select all after that initial VO-Shift-Space.

When you do a VO-F6 after the first VO-Shift-Space, does VoiceOver correctly 
identify the item you have selected? I'm wondering if this is a focus issue in 
Lion, since I'm running Snow Leopard.  Also, I was puzzled by a post Ray and 
Candie made in early October about not being able to keep Mouse Keys on in 
Lion.  I'll explain that in some situations using VO-Shift-Space to click 
doesn't seem to work.  It's the software implementation of a keyboard click in 
VoiceOver, so I call this a "software click", and it used to be that in apps 
with transitioning accessibility (the early versions of iTunes and Automator, 
for example, and in some third party apps) that clicking this way didn't 
register as a click.  (In the present case, it would mean that the track you 
clicked on wouldn't be selected, for example, or announced when you checked 
with VO-F6).  However, if you click a physical mouse button, or press your 
trackpad, or turn on Mouse Keys by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly in 
succession when you have this configured under Universal Access options for the 
keyboard, then pressing the "i" key on my laptop keyboard (or the "5" key on 
the numeric keypad of a desktop keyboard for the Mac) works just like a 
"hardware click" from mouse or trackpad.  

Something similar did happen once for a version of iTunes in Leopard, when 
using the column browser, for a very brief period of time, and we had to work 
around the order of clicking and selecting. In this case, I might not see the 
same behavior if this were a Lion-specific focus issue.

To answer your question about why you might want to use playlists, iTunes has a 
very powerful feature called "smart playlists" that allows you to select 
contents of playlists by rules instead of directly selecting individual tracks 
or groups of tracks.  The smart playlists support a feature called live 
updating.

Here's a quick and simple example of how this would work.  Suppose I listen to 
an audiobook on my iPod nano, which only has a limited capacity.  Further, 
suppose that my files are MP3 files, because I want to use them on another 
player that only handles MP3 files, and these files were ripped from the 
individual tracks of an audio CD some time ago.  I can create a smart playlist 
for this audiobook with two rules: "Album is " and "Plays 
is 0".  I select all the tracks in this book from the music library, press 
Command-I to "Get Info", and change the Media Kind pop up button from "Music" 
to "Audiobook" on the Options tab.  This switches the tracks from "Music" to 
the "Book" library folder.  I also set the pop up for "Remember Position" from 
"No" to "Yes", which will bookmark the last played position so that listening 
will pick up here when I start playing the track again.

In my iTunes library I can play this book from the smart playlist.  My position 
in each individual track is remembered, because I turned on "Remember 
Position".  Because I am playing from the playlist, I listen to each of the 
book tracks in succession.  As soon as I finish a track, the playcount for the 
number of "plays"  increments to "1", and the track rolls off the top of my 
playlist, because the playlist is "smart" and is using the "Live updating" 
feature to check the status of tracks.

Now consider what happens when I sync that playlist to the iPod nano (or it 
could be an iPhone or iPod Touch).  Only the tracks on the smart playlist (that 
I haven't yet listened to) get synced over.  When I play from the smart 
playlist on that device, even though I'm not connected to iTunes on my 
computer, tracks automatically roll off the top of the playlist as soon as I 
finish listening to them.  (They are still on my iPod, just not in my smart 
playlist.)  The live updating feature continues to work on the iPod, and always 
keeps my current position.  Further, if I sync my iPod again to my computer, 
the smart playlist status will update so that if I play the smart playlist on 
my computer, I can continue listening where I left off the book on my iPod.  
Even better, when I automatically synced, all the tracks that I listened to, 
that now no longer meet the criterion of "Plays is 0" get rolled off my iPod.  
You can reuse t

Re: any alternatives to Drop box yet?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Does it have file syncing capability?  How much  space does one get for free?  
Not much beyond 2 GB I imagine.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> I like EverNote.  It's free from the Mac app store and the IOS version is 
> available through iTunes.
> 
> Kristyn
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ray.
>> I too am searching for a DropBox alternative but haven't found anything as 
>> of yet. I've contacted SugarSync about they're Mac app and have gotten a 
>> similar response. I've also signed up for box.net but they have no folder 
>> syncing capabilities unless you buy the business plan.
>> I'll keep continuing my search but am not very hopeful I'll find anything.
>> Hope this answers you're question,
>> Matthew Campbell
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-11-06, at 1:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Subject line asks it all.  does anybody out there know of a good 
>>> alternative to Drop Box which will synch wiht local folders the wya Drop 
>>> Box does?  I ask because, as I believe we all know, Drop box is no longer 
>>> very if at all accessible; and, to speak frankly, it looks to me as  if the 
>>> people over at Drop Box couldn't give a damn whether or not we can use it.  
>>> I say this last not to be sinsationlists, but rather, to point out the sad 
>>> fact that quite a number of us have sent feedback to Drop Box complaining 
>>> to them, (oh so politely mind you) that the app was really not very 
>>> accessible; and, what did most of us get back in response?  "We're aware of 
>>> and are working on it".  That is as far as any of us got.
>>> 
>>> Anybody got any ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Producing electronic Braille field

[Scott Howell]

Gigi,

I do in fact have a Braille display and thanks for the tips. I'm actually 
taking the course to help me along with setting up math problems. I could 
probably just read over the Nemeth book someone gave me, but I thought perhaps 
I could use a bit more help and a study guide might get me motivated as well. :)
Thanks,

On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi there.
> I not too long ago completed the NLS course on Nemeth Code using a PacMate to 
> create brf files. 
> 
> First, do you have a braille display? You have less of a problem, I think, if 
> the goal is to teach Nemeth Code and not just to get yourself certified to be 
> a transcriber or a proofreader. Certain parts of Nemeth Code may have to be 
> done on a brailler because when you get into spatial arrangement of problems, 
> then a brailler is easier. You may not have to do that in a Hadley course; I 
> had to for NLS. So, once I got to where I had to do spatial arrangement, I 
> switched to a Perkins. I tried doing it with brf files, but I found getting 
> the problems to line up was a real pain without the brailler.
> 
> However, having said that, you might be able to do it quite successfully if 
> you turn off Auto complete so that your computer won't bother you. Then you 
> can turn on computer braille by setting your Mac on uncontracted braille and 
> turning on dots seven and eight so that you get computer braille. 
> 
> I haven't tried to set the Mac to produce a file with a brf extension so that 
> other systems will be lied to and think they have a perfectly good braille 
> file. I've done that with Word Pad, I believe. 
> 
> when I had to do it, I had to count the lines per page and put in carriage 
> returns where needed so that my lines did not exceed 40 characters per line. 
> If necessary, page breaks could also be put in where needed, too. I had to 
> count lines because my PacMate did not automatically make a new line every 40 
> characters. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I am taking this Hadley course and I have the option of Brailing the 
>> assignments and mailing them to the instructor or sending them as Braille 
>> files. I'm studying the Nemeth Code. :) So, how could I possibly pull this 
>> off? I thought there was a software program that would convert text to 
>> Braille, but is that sufficient for what I want to do?
>> Any input appreciated. Just figured it would save on postage and I have an 
>> old Brailler that is rather testy and tends to make more a mess than dots 
>> and my slate skills aren't such that I could produce results fast enough. :) 
>> Getting slow in my old age.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: .brf book on voiceOver

[Eugenia Firth]

As far as I know, it's still on the Apple web site, at least it was earlier 
this year. You have to go to accessibility, and then I think VoiceOver to find 
it. I have the one for Snow Leopard, which I think is still the brf file. The 
one I have is in two volumes, and Apple was letting us download without cost. I 
bought the volumes from National Braille Press, I think for about $18. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Brian Albriton wrote:

> A couple years ago  I ran across an actual book on voice over but have
> lost track of it. I am getting some use out of the available online
> help but if there is a book or two on VoiceOver I'd like to know.
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Re: Producing electronic Braille field

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there.
I not too long ago completed the NLS course on Nemeth Code using a PacMate to 
create brf files. 

First, do you have a braille display? You have less of a problem, I think, if 
the goal is to teach Nemeth Code and not just to get yourself certified to be a 
transcriber or a proofreader. Certain parts of Nemeth Code may have to be done 
on a brailler because when you get into spatial arrangement of problems, then a 
brailler is easier. You may not have to do that in a Hadley course; I had to 
for NLS. So, once I got to where I had to do spatial arrangement, I switched to 
a Perkins. I tried doing it with brf files, but I found getting the problems to 
line up was a real pain without the brailler.

However, having said that, you might be able to do it quite successfully if you 
turn off Auto complete so that your computer won't bother you. Then you can 
turn on computer braille by setting your Mac on uncontracted braille and 
turning on dots seven and eight so that you get computer braille. 

I haven't tried to set the Mac to produce a file with a brf extension so that 
other systems will be lied to and think they have a perfectly good braille 
file. I've done that with Word Pad, I believe. 

when I had to do it, I had to count the lines per page and put in carriage 
returns where needed so that my lines did not exceed 40 characters per line. If 
necessary, page breaks could also be put in where needed, too. I had to count 
lines because my PacMate did not automatically make a new line every 40 
characters. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> All,
> 
> I am taking this Hadley course and I have the option of Brailing the 
> assignments and mailing them to the instructor or sending them as Braille 
> files. I'm studying the Nemeth Code. :) So, how could I possibly pull this 
> off? I thought there was a software program that would convert text to 
> Braille, but is that sufficient for what I want to do?
> Any input appreciated. Just figured it would save on postage and I have an 
> old Brailler that is rather testy and tends to make more a mess than dots and 
> my slate skills aren't such that I could produce results fast enough. :) 
> Getting slow in my old age.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Christine Grassman]

Kristyn, I did as directed, but not sure exactly what I'm editing.  If, for 
example, I want it to show up in movies/videos, I would have to edit the path 
where it states it's in music and the music library, correct? But when I 
interact with this text, I can't change it.  I did try writing in the title of 
the movie as the album name, which then made it appear on the album list of the 
music library.  It 's checked, but it isn't syncing.
Can anyone guide me further with this, off-list if necessary?

On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the music 
>> library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an mp3 
>> and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes 
>> library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
>> Christine
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>>> 
>>> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
>>> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
>>> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in my
>>> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way
>>> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should I
>>> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
>>> Christine
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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Esther]

Hi,

Colin's suggestion should work too, if it's a complete album.

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:19, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Paul!
> Just for the purposes of getting rid of that album!
> Why don't you change the view to grid and pick the album view!
> I've got mine like this and all the albums are in order and all I've got to 
> do is open that album and select all and delete!
> Album gone!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 6 Nov 2011, at 20:22, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther,
>> Again this answer is worth saving for later reference so I did that, but I 
>> still have questions.
>> 
>> 1. I'm trying to find tracks, all belonging to one album from one artist, 
>> present in my itunes library, and I want to get rid of them in itunes. 
>> Here's what I do, but it fails.
>> 1. Start itunes, go to the music browser.
>> 2. Select an artist and then an album.
>> 3. From the songs table, I hit vo command f5 to pull the mouse over to the 
>> vo cursor, and then I click with vo shift space, just to get itunes focus 
>> into the songs table.
>> 4. Now, I move to the first song and I hit shift plus down arrow, keeping 
>> shift down, and repeatedly I hit down arrow. This does not select any 
>> tracks, while if I shift arrow down in the songs table when I did not use 
>> the music browser before trying to shift arrow, selection works just fine. 
>> In other words: if I open up itunes, and I start shift arrowing in the songs 
>> table, then selection happens just fine. However, when trying to select 
>> tracks after having narrowed down the songs table, by selecting an artist 
>> and album from the music browser first, then selection does not work any 
>> more. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
>> 
>> 2. Why would you want to use playlists anyway? Are they necessary in order 
>> to delete tracks? Only time I can think of, when a playlist is necessary, is 
>> if I want to make an audio cd from selected tracks, because then, I must add 
>> them to a playlist, in order for itunes to go burn them to cd. When wanting 
>> to delete tracks from my itunes library, do playlists come into play at all?
>> 
>> Curious.
>> Paul.
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> 
>>> Can you select and use the Shift+Arrow keys in the songs table if you first 
>>> click in this table with VO-Shift-Space? First, I find that I can select 
>>> the album in the column browser and create the playlist directly from there 
>>> If I click on the selection with VO-Shift-Space and then press 
>>> Command-Shift-N to create a new playlist from my selection without having 
>>> to navigate to the songs table.  If I want to create a playlist after 
>>> navigating to the songs table (e.g., I stop interacting with the column 
>>> browser and navigate to the songs table and interact), I'll first click 
>>> with VO-Shift-Space and then navigate around to do my selections, including 
>>> holding down the Shift key.  However, I can only delete tracks if I select 
>>> them from the songs table, and not from the column browser.
>>> 
>>> When you delete tracks from playlists you generally do not delete them from 
>>> your iTunes library -- only from the playlist.  If you want to force 
>>> deletion of tracks that you select from a playlist, you have to press 
>>> Option+Delete instead of just Delete.  Then iTunes will prompt you with a 
>>> dialog window asking you whether you really want to delete these tracks 
>>> from your library. 
>>> 
>>> Hope this answers your questions.  Write back if anything is still not 
>>> clear.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 09:41, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Esther,
 To clarify my last message, I forgot to add that once I have found an 
 album using the music browser, itunes will not let me select any tracks. 
 Usually, I can do it using the shift and vertical arrows, but this is not 
 possible after I narrow down the tracks listing inside the itunes music 
 table, by selecting an album using the command b music browser. Any idea 
 why shift arrows does not work? It would be the easiest way to find and 
 get rid of tracks.
 
 Best, thanks in advance.
 Paul.
 On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
> Hi Esther,
> Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been 
> playing around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work 
> for me. I even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my 
> library, and I was also able to correct a few genres.
> 
> I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an 
> album in the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in 
> the music table? I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you 
> delete an album once you got it displayed?
> 
> Paul.
> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
>> 
>> A mo

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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Paul!
Just for the purposes of getting rid of that album!
Why don't you change the view to grid and pick the album view!
I've got mine like this and all the albums are in order and all I've got to do 
is open that album and select all and delete!
Album gone!
hth Colin

On 6 Nov 2011, at 20:22, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> Again this answer is worth saving for later reference so I did that, but I 
> still have questions.
> 
> 1. I'm trying to find tracks, all belonging to one album from one artist, 
> present in my itunes library, and I want to get rid of them in itunes. Here's 
> what I do, but it fails.
> 1. Start itunes, go to the music browser.
> 2. Select an artist and then an album.
> 3. From the songs table, I hit vo command f5 to pull the mouse over to the vo 
> cursor, and then I click with vo shift space, just to get itunes focus into 
> the songs table.
> 4. Now, I move to the first song and I hit shift plus down arrow, keeping 
> shift down, and repeatedly I hit down arrow. This does not select any tracks, 
> while if I shift arrow down in the songs table when I did not use the music 
> browser before trying to shift arrow, selection works just fine. In other 
> words: if I open up itunes, and I start shift arrowing in the songs table, 
> then selection happens just fine. However, when trying to select tracks after 
> having narrowed down the songs table, by selecting an artist and album from 
> the music browser first, then selection does not work any more. Any idea what 
> I'm doing wrong here?
> 
> 2. Why would you want to use playlists anyway? Are they necessary in order to 
> delete tracks? Only time I can think of, when a playlist is necessary, is if 
> I want to make an audio cd from selected tracks, because then, I must add 
> them to a playlist, in order for itunes to go burn them to cd. When wanting 
> to delete tracks from my itunes library, do playlists come into play at all?
> 
> Curious.
> Paul.
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> Can you select and use the Shift+Arrow keys in the songs table if you first 
>> click in this table with VO-Shift-Space? First, I find that I can select the 
>> album in the column browser and create the playlist directly from there If I 
>> click on the selection with VO-Shift-Space and then press Command-Shift-N to 
>> create a new playlist from my selection without having to navigate to the 
>> songs table.  If I want to create a playlist after navigating to the songs 
>> table (e.g., I stop interacting with the column browser and navigate to the 
>> songs table and interact), I'll first click with VO-Shift-Space and then 
>> navigate around to do my selections, including holding down the Shift key.  
>> However, I can only delete tracks if I select them from the songs table, and 
>> not from the column browser.
>> 
>> When you delete tracks from playlists you generally do not delete them from 
>> your iTunes library -- only from the playlist.  If you want to force 
>> deletion of tracks that you select from a playlist, you have to press 
>> Option+Delete instead of just Delete.  Then iTunes will prompt you with a 
>> dialog window asking you whether you really want to delete these tracks from 
>> your library. 
>> 
>> Hope this answers your questions.  Write back if anything is still not clear.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 09:41, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther,
>>> To clarify my last message, I forgot to add that once I have found an album 
>>> using the music browser, itunes will not let me select any tracks. Usually, 
>>> I can do it using the shift and vertical arrows, but this is not possible 
>>> after I narrow down the tracks listing inside the itunes music table, by 
>>> selecting an album using the command b music browser. Any idea why shift 
>>> arrows does not work? It would be the easiest way to find and get rid of 
>>> tracks.
>>> 
>>> Best, thanks in advance.
>>> Paul.
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Esther,
 Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been playing 
 around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work for me. 
 I even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my library, and 
 I was also able to correct a few genres.
 
 I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an album 
 in the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in the 
 music table? I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you delete 
 an album once you got it displayed?
 
 Paul.
 On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:
 
> Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
> 
> A more useful general way to access your music in iTunes by Artist (or 
> Album, or Genre, or other categories) is to use the Column Browser, which 
> can be toggled on or off between the "Show" and "Hide" positions with 
> Command+B.  You

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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Aser Tolentino]

Hi,
I'd like to know how to access this as well please. Thanks.

Sent from my iPad

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> Hi could some one email me off list and let me know what the direct link for 
> the vault is?  It's not off the home page anymore.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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> On 2011-11-06, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
> 
>> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
>> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the music 
>>> library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an mp3 
>>> and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes 
>>> library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
>>> Christine
>>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
 
 
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 However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in 
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[erik burggraaf]

Hi could some one email me off list and let me know what the direct link for 
the vault is?  It's not off the home page anymore.

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On 2011-11-06, at 3:30 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:

> Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press 
> command+I and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> 
>> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the music 
>> library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an mp3 
>> and "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes 
>> library, just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
>> Christine
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>>> 
>>> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
>>> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
>>> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in my
>>> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way
>>> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should I
>>> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
>>> Christine
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Kristyn Leigh]

Search for it in your iTunes music library.  When you find it, press command+I 
and edit the information to make it appear where you want it .
On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the music 
> library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an mp3 and 
> "unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes library, 
> just the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
> Christine
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
>> 
>> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
>> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
>> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in my
>> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way
>> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should I
>> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
>> Christine
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Re: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Christine Grassman]

Tried that -- plays fine in iTunes, but isn't appearing in either the music 
library or movies.  When I use Spotlight to find it, it says it is an mp3 and 
"unknown album". I don't see any options to save it in the iTunes library, just 
the usual controls "previous," "next," "stop," etc. 
Christine
On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:33 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .
> 
> The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
> television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
> However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in my
> iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way
> to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should I
> just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
> Christine
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A couple years ago  I ran across an actual book on voice over but have
lost track of it. I am getting some use out of the available online
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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Esther,
Again this answer is worth saving for later reference so I did that, but I 
still have questions.

1. I'm trying to find tracks, all belonging to one album from one artist, 
present in my itunes library, and I want to get rid of them in itunes. Here's 
what I do, but it fails.
1. Start itunes, go to the music browser.
2. Select an artist and then an album.
3. From the songs table, I hit vo command f5 to pull the mouse over to the vo 
cursor, and then I click with vo shift space, just to get itunes focus into the 
songs table.
4. Now, I move to the first song and I hit shift plus down arrow, keeping shift 
down, and repeatedly I hit down arrow. This does not select any tracks, while 
if I shift arrow down in the songs table when I did not use the music browser 
before trying to shift arrow, selection works just fine. In other words: if I 
open up itunes, and I start shift arrowing in the songs table, then selection 
happens just fine. However, when trying to select tracks after having narrowed 
down the songs table, by selecting an artist and album from the music browser 
first, then selection does not work any more. Any idea what I'm doing wrong 
here?

2. Why would you want to use playlists anyway? Are they necessary in order to 
delete tracks? Only time I can think of, when a playlist is necessary, is if I 
want to make an audio cd from selected tracks, because then, I must add them to 
a playlist, in order for itunes to go burn them to cd. When wanting to delete 
tracks from my itunes library, do playlists come into play at all?

Curious.
Paul.

On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> Can you select and use the Shift+Arrow keys in the songs table if you first 
> click in this table with VO-Shift-Space? First, I find that I can select the 
> album in the column browser and create the playlist directly from there If I 
> click on the selection with VO-Shift-Space and then press Command-Shift-N to 
> create a new playlist from my selection without having to navigate to the 
> songs table.  If I want to create a playlist after navigating to the songs 
> table (e.g., I stop interacting with the column browser and navigate to the 
> songs table and interact), I'll first click with VO-Shift-Space and then 
> navigate around to do my selections, including holding down the Shift key.  
> However, I can only delete tracks if I select them from the songs table, and 
> not from the column browser.
> 
> When you delete tracks from playlists you generally do not delete them from 
> your iTunes library -- only from the playlist.  If you want to force deletion 
> of tracks that you select from a playlist, you have to press Option+Delete 
> instead of just Delete.  Then iTunes will prompt you with a dialog window 
> asking you whether you really want to delete these tracks from your library. 
> 
> Hope this answers your questions.  Write back if anything is still not clear.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 09:41, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther,
>> To clarify my last message, I forgot to add that once I have found an album 
>> using the music browser, itunes will not let me select any tracks. Usually, 
>> I can do it using the shift and vertical arrows, but this is not possible 
>> after I narrow down the tracks listing inside the itunes music table, by 
>> selecting an album using the command b music browser. Any idea why shift 
>> arrows does not work? It would be the easiest way to find and get rid of 
>> tracks.
>> 
>> Best, thanks in advance.
>> Paul.
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther,
>>> Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been playing 
>>> around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work for me. I 
>>> even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my library, and I 
>>> was also able to correct a few genres.
>>> 
>>> I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an album 
>>> in the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in the music 
>>> table? I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you delete an 
>>> album once you got it displayed?
>>> 
>>> Paul.
>>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
 
 A more useful general way to access your music in iTunes by Artist (or 
 Album, or Genre, or other categories) is to use the Column Browser, which 
 can be toggled on or off between the "Show" and "Hide" positions with 
 Command+B.  You can configure this under the "View" menu on your iTunes 
 menu bar.  Use either VO+M or the general OS X shortcut of Control+F2 to 
 navigate to the menu bar, press "V" to go to the View Menu, arrow down, 
 then press "C" or use arrow keys to move to the "Column Browser" menu 
 option.  Press either your right arrow key or VO-Space to move to the 
 "Column Browser" submenu.  You can arrow down and press "Return" to check 
>>

Re: itunes sort by artist

[Kristyn Leigh]

I usually use table view. After searching for the album tracks, you can select 
all with command+a and move to trash.

Kristyn 
On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been playing 
> around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work for me. I 
> even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my library, and I was 
> also able to correct a few genres.
> 
> I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an album in 
> the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in the music 
> table? I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you delete an album 
> once you got it displayed?
> 
> Paul.
> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
>> 
>> A more useful general way to access your music in iTunes by Artist (or 
>> Album, or Genre, or other categories) is to use the Column Browser, which 
>> can be toggled on or off between the "Show" and "Hide" positions with 
>> Command+B.  You can configure this under the "View" menu on your iTunes menu 
>> bar.  Use either VO+M or the general OS X shortcut of Control+F2 to navigate 
>> to the menu bar, press "V" to go to the View Menu, arrow down, then press 
>> "C" or use arrow keys to move to the "Column Browser" menu option.  Press 
>> either your right arrow key or VO-Space to move to the "Column Browser" 
>> submenu.  You can arrow down and press "Return" to check or uncheck entries 
>> you want to be shown once the Column Browser is toggled on. (You need to do 
>> this for each item you want to check or uncheck.)  For example,  I have 
>> Artists, Albums, and Composers checked, and I have my column browser set to 
>> display on top, with options to "Group Compilations", and "Use Album 
>> Artists".
>> 
>> Then, when the browser is toggled on, you can navigate to separate column 
>> listings of Artists, Albums, and Composers (or whatever options you have 
>> chosen).  These work to filter the results in your songs table by 
>> categories, and I generally keep my library displayed in list view 
>> (Command+Option+3).  For example, you can either go directly to an 
>> alphabetical list of album titles in the browser (if you checked "Album" as 
>> one of the items to be displayed), highlight the album you want, and then 
>> create a playlist of it with the Command+Shift+N "New playlist from 
>> selection" shortcut.  Or, you could first select the "Artist" in the 
>> alphabetical list of artists in the browser, again assuming that was one of 
>> the options you checked, then navigate to the "Albums" column of the browser 
>> to view all albums of works by that artist.  Or, you could select a Composer 
>> in the browser, then select an Artist, and view Albums by an artist 
>> interpreting a classical composer's works, for example.  Using selections by 
>> categories in the column browser, possibly in combination with inputs into 
>> the search text field, provides a very fast way to locate and tailor tracks 
>> listed in the songs table of your iTunes library.  (The column browser works 
>> for other categories than just Music, but the options you can check will be 
>> different.)
>> 
>> This feature has been around since the first accessible version of iTunes, 
>> and earlier, and I basically just restore the iTunes options to something 
>> like the original settings, which were, from memory, "Genre", "Artist", 
>> "Album", and "Composer", viewed "On Top", and "Group Compilations".  This 
>> last settings shows up albums that cannot be associated with single artists, 
>> e.g., "Cinema Classics of 2009", under a "Compilations" category, where they 
>> can be found by album title.  I believe the default setting of the browser 
>> now is to only have "Artist" checked, and to display "On left", but I don't 
>> recall the specifics.
>> 
>> Paul, in general, iTunes on your Mac can be configured to do a lot more than 
>> on your iOS device, an pretty easily.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 06:58, Aser Tolentino wrote:
>> 
>>> In iTunes, move one element left of iTunes search, where you should find 
>>> something called view mode, interact with that and select grid view. When 
>>> you then scroll passed the source list, you should eventually encounter 
>>> buttons that allow you to group by artist, album, genre etc. Select which 
>>> one you want and then keep scrolling until you hear VoiceOver say "grid 
>>> view, one item selected" or something similar. Interact with that and you 
>>> should find your music sorted by the criteria you selected above.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Aser
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>> 
 I seem to remember a plugin for doing this some ware but can't remember 
 where I saw it. I would love to know if this is still possible. 
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhon

Re: any alternatives to Drop box yet?

[Kristyn Leigh]

I like EverNote.  It's free from the Mac app store and the IOS version is 
available through iTunes.

Kristyn
On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi Ray.
> I too am searching for a DropBox alternative but haven't found anything as of 
> yet. I've contacted SugarSync about they're Mac app and have gotten a similar 
> response. I've also signed up for box.net but they have no folder syncing 
> capabilities unless you buy the business plan.
> I'll keep continuing my search but am not very hopeful I'll find anything.
> Hope this answers you're question,
> Matthew Campbell
> 
> 
> On 2011-11-06, at 1:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Subject line asks it all.  does anybody out there know of a good alternative 
>> to Drop Box which will synch wiht local folders the wya Drop Box does?  I 
>> ask because, as I believe we all know, Drop box is no longer very if at all 
>> accessible; and, to speak frankly, it looks to me as  if the people over at 
>> Drop Box couldn't give a damn whether or not we can use it.  I say this last 
>> not to be sinsationlists, but rather, to point out the sad fact that quite a 
>> number of us have sent feedback to Drop Box complaining to them, (oh so 
>> politely mind you) that the app was really not very accessible; and, what 
>> did most of us get back in response?  "We're aware of and are working on 
>> it".  That is as far as any of us got.
>> 
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Esther]

Hi Paul,

Can you select and use the Shift+Arrow keys in the songs table if you first 
click in this table with VO-Shift-Space? First, I find that I can select the 
album in the column browser and create the playlist directly from there If I 
click on the selection with VO-Shift-Space and then press Command-Shift-N to 
create a new playlist from my selection without having to navigate to the songs 
table.  If I want to create a playlist after navigating to the songs table 
(e.g., I stop interacting with the column browser and navigate to the songs 
table and interact), I'll first click with VO-Shift-Space and then navigate 
around to do my selections, including holding down the Shift key.  However, I 
can only delete tracks if I select them from the songs table, and not from the 
column browser.

When you delete tracks from playlists you generally do not delete them from 
your iTunes library -- only from the playlist.  If you want to force deletion 
of tracks that you select from a playlist, you have to press Option+Delete 
instead of just Delete.  Then iTunes will prompt you with a dialog window 
asking you whether you really want to delete these tracks from your library. 

Hope this answers your questions.  Write back if anything is still not clear.

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 6, 2011, at 09:41, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> To clarify my last message, I forgot to add that once I have found an album 
> using the music browser, itunes will not let me select any tracks. Usually, I 
> can do it using the shift and vertical arrows, but this is not possible after 
> I narrow down the tracks listing inside the itunes music table, by selecting 
> an album using the command b music browser. Any idea why shift arrows does 
> not work? It would be the easiest way to find and get rid of tracks.
> 
> Best, thanks in advance.
> Paul.
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther,
>> Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been playing 
>> around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work for me. I 
>> even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my library, and I 
>> was also able to correct a few genres.
>> 
>> I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an album 
>> in the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in the music 
>> table? I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you delete an album 
>> once you got it displayed?
>> 
>> Paul.
>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
>>> 
>>> A more useful general way to access your music in iTunes by Artist (or 
>>> Album, or Genre, or other categories) is to use the Column Browser, which 
>>> can be toggled on or off between the "Show" and "Hide" positions with 
>>> Command+B.  You can configure this under the "View" menu on your iTunes 
>>> menu bar.  Use either VO+M or the general OS X shortcut of Control+F2 to 
>>> navigate to the menu bar, press "V" to go to the View Menu, arrow down, 
>>> then press "C" or use arrow keys to move to the "Column Browser" menu 
>>> option.  Press either your right arrow key or VO-Space to move to the 
>>> "Column Browser" submenu.  You can arrow down and press "Return" to check 
>>> or uncheck entries you want to be shown once the Column Browser is toggled 
>>> on. (You need to do this for each item you want to check or uncheck.)  For 
>>> example,  I have Artists, Albums, and Composers checked, and I have my 
>>> column browser set to display on top, with options to "Group Compilations", 
>>> and "Use Album Artists".
>>> 
>>> Then, when the browser is toggled on, you can navigate to separate column 
>>> listings of Artists, Albums, and Composers (or whatever options you have 
>>> chosen).  These work to filter the results in your songs table by 
>>> categories, and I generally keep my library displayed in list view 
>>> (Command+Option+3).  For example, you can either go directly to an 
>>> alphabetical list of album titles in the browser (if you checked "Album" as 
>>> one of the items to be displayed), highlight the album you want, and then 
>>> create a playlist of it with the Command+Shift+N "New playlist from 
>>> selection" shortcut.  Or, you could first select the "Artist" in the 
>>> alphabetical list of artists in the browser, again assuming that was one of 
>>> the options you checked, then navigate to the "Albums" column of the 
>>> browser to view all albums of works by that artist.  Or, you could select a 
>>> Composer in the browser, then select an Artist, and view Albums by an 
>>> artist interpreting a classical composer's works, for example.  Using 
>>> selections by categories in the column browser, possibly in combination 
>>> with inputs into the search text field, provides a very fast way to locate 
>>> and tailor tracks listed in the songs table of your iTunes library.  (The 
>>> column browser works for other categories than just Music, but the optio

Re: any alternatives to Drop box yet?

[Paul Erkens]

Dear listers,
Because of the questions about dropbox alternatives, I did some googling, and I 
stumbled upon quite a few. I went over the reviews on most of them, which I 
found in an online Dutch magazine, and all of them are okay. Wuala, spelled w, 
u, a, l, a,  is a very secure one, see below, and as far as I think I remember 
now, all have mac and windows support. Even windows mesh has mac support. Some 
are lacking unix support, but iOS and android are supported on these services. 
I think all of them are free. Some have 1 gb, 2 gb, and one even has 5 gb. I 
recommend that you do the reading yourself, because it is so much information, 
and it's already on the respective sites. So if you're interested:
Spider oak: www.spideroak.com.
sugar sync :  5 gb: www.sugarsync.com
windows live mesh: http://explore.live.com/windows-live-mesh-sync-p2p-using
sumo drive: for windows, mac, android  and iOS: http://www.zumodrive.com/
Wuala: http://www.wuala.com/
Hope this helps. I don't know how accessible all their client software will be, 
but this is a start. Interested to hear back from those of you who try these.
Paul.
On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi Ray.
> I too am searching for a DropBox alternative but haven't found anything as of 
> yet. I've contacted SugarSync about they're Mac app and have gotten a similar 
> response. I've also signed up for box.net but they have no folder syncing 
> capabilities unless you buy the business plan.
> I'll keep continuing my search but am not very hopeful I'll find anything.
> Hope this answers you're question,
> Matthew Campbell
> 
> 
> On 2011-11-06, at 1:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Subject line asks it all.  does anybody out there know of a good alternative 
>> to Drop Box which will synch wiht local folders the wya Drop Box does?  I 
>> ask because, as I believe we all know, Drop box is no longer very if at all 
>> accessible; and, to speak frankly, it looks to me as  if the people over at 
>> Drop Box couldn't give a damn whether or not we can use it.  I say this last 
>> not to be sinsationlists, but rather, to point out the sad fact that quite a 
>> number of us have sent feedback to Drop Box complaining to them, (oh so 
>> politely mind you) that the app was really not very accessible; and, what 
>> did most of us get back in response?  "We're aware of and are working on 
>> it".  That is as far as any of us got.
>> 
>> Anybody got any ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: itunes sort by artist

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Esther,
To clarify my last message, I forgot to add that once I have found an album 
using the music browser, itunes will not let me select any tracks. Usually, I 
can do it using the shift and vertical arrows, but this is not possible after I 
narrow down the tracks listing inside the itunes music table, by selecting an 
album using the command b music browser. Any idea why shift arrows does not 
work? It would be the easiest way to find and get rid of tracks.

Best, thanks in advance.
Paul.
On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been playing 
> around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work for me. I 
> even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my library, and I was 
> also able to correct a few genres.
> 
> I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an album in 
> the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in the music 
> table? I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you delete an album 
> once you got it displayed?
> 
> Paul.
> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
>> 
>> A more useful general way to access your music in iTunes by Artist (or 
>> Album, or Genre, or other categories) is to use the Column Browser, which 
>> can be toggled on or off between the "Show" and "Hide" positions with 
>> Command+B.  You can configure this under the "View" menu on your iTunes menu 
>> bar.  Use either VO+M or the general OS X shortcut of Control+F2 to navigate 
>> to the menu bar, press "V" to go to the View Menu, arrow down, then press 
>> "C" or use arrow keys to move to the "Column Browser" menu option.  Press 
>> either your right arrow key or VO-Space to move to the "Column Browser" 
>> submenu.  You can arrow down and press "Return" to check or uncheck entries 
>> you want to be shown once the Column Browser is toggled on. (You need to do 
>> this for each item you want to check or uncheck.)  For example,  I have 
>> Artists, Albums, and Composers checked, and I have my column browser set to 
>> display on top, with options to "Group Compilations", and "Use Album 
>> Artists".
>> 
>> Then, when the browser is toggled on, you can navigate to separate column 
>> listings of Artists, Albums, and Composers (or whatever options you have 
>> chosen).  These work to filter the results in your songs table by 
>> categories, and I generally keep my library displayed in list view 
>> (Command+Option+3).  For example, you can either go directly to an 
>> alphabetical list of album titles in the browser (if you checked "Album" as 
>> one of the items to be displayed), highlight the album you want, and then 
>> create a playlist of it with the Command+Shift+N "New playlist from 
>> selection" shortcut.  Or, you could first select the "Artist" in the 
>> alphabetical list of artists in the browser, again assuming that was one of 
>> the options you checked, then navigate to the "Albums" column of the browser 
>> to view all albums of works by that artist.  Or, you could select a Composer 
>> in the browser, then select an Artist, and view Albums by an artist 
>> interpreting a classical composer's works, for example.  Using selections by 
>> categories in the column browser, possibly in combination with inputs into 
>> the search text field, provides a very fast way to locate and tailor tracks 
>> listed in the songs table of your iTunes library.  (The column browser works 
>> for other categories than just Music, but the options you can check will be 
>> different.)
>> 
>> This feature has been around since the first accessible version of iTunes, 
>> and earlier, and I basically just restore the iTunes options to something 
>> like the original settings, which were, from memory, "Genre", "Artist", 
>> "Album", and "Composer", viewed "On Top", and "Group Compilations".  This 
>> last settings shows up albums that cannot be associated with single artists, 
>> e.g., "Cinema Classics of 2009", under a "Compilations" category, where they 
>> can be found by album title.  I believe the default setting of the browser 
>> now is to only have "Artist" checked, and to display "On left", but I don't 
>> recall the specifics.
>> 
>> Paul, in general, iTunes on your Mac can be configured to do a lot more than 
>> on your iOS device, an pretty easily.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 06:58, Aser Tolentino wrote:
>> 
>>> In iTunes, move one element left of iTunes search, where you should find 
>>> something called view mode, interact with that and select grid view. When 
>>> you then scroll passed the source list, you should eventually encounter 
>>> buttons that allow you to group by artist, album, genre etc. Select which 
>>> one you want and then keep scrolling until you hear VoiceOver say "grid 
>>> view, one item selected" or something similar. Interact with that and you 
>>> should find yo

Re: itunes sort by artist

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Esther,
Thanks for your as always thorough and clear response. I have been playing 
around with the music browser a few days now and it seems to work for me. I 
even cleaned up stuff I didn't even know I still had in my library, and I was 
also able to correct a few genres.

I still have a question though. After I select an artist and then an album in 
the music browser, why is it that I cannot select any files in the music table? 
I want to delete an album once I found it. How do you delete an album once you 
got it displayed?

Paul.
On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Paul, Doug, Aser, and Others,
> 
> A more useful general way to access your music in iTunes by Artist (or Album, 
> or Genre, or other categories) is to use the Column Browser, which can be 
> toggled on or off between the "Show" and "Hide" positions with Command+B.  
> You can configure this under the "View" menu on your iTunes menu bar.  Use 
> either VO+M or the general OS X shortcut of Control+F2 to navigate to the 
> menu bar, press "V" to go to the View Menu, arrow down, then press "C" or use 
> arrow keys to move to the "Column Browser" menu option.  Press either your 
> right arrow key or VO-Space to move to the "Column Browser" submenu.  You can 
> arrow down and press "Return" to check or uncheck entries you want to be 
> shown once the Column Browser is toggled on. (You need to do this for each 
> item you want to check or uncheck.)  For example,  I have Artists, Albums, 
> and Composers checked, and I have my column browser set to display on top, 
> with options to "Group Compilations", and "Use Album Artists".
> 
> Then, when the browser is toggled on, you can navigate to separate column 
> listings of Artists, Albums, and Composers (or whatever options you have 
> chosen).  These work to filter the results in your songs table by categories, 
> and I generally keep my library displayed in list view (Command+Option+3).  
> For example, you can either go directly to an alphabetical list of album 
> titles in the browser (if you checked "Album" as one of the items to be 
> displayed), highlight the album you want, and then create a playlist of it 
> with the Command+Shift+N "New playlist from selection" shortcut.  Or, you 
> could first select the "Artist" in the alphabetical list of artists in the 
> browser, again assuming that was one of the options you checked, then 
> navigate to the "Albums" column of the browser to view all albums of works by 
> that artist.  Or, you could select a Composer in the browser, then select an 
> Artist, and view Albums by an artist interpreting a classical composer's 
> works, for example.  Using selections by categories in the column browser, 
> possibly in combination with inputs into the search text field, provides a 
> very fast way to locate and tailor tracks listed in the songs table of your 
> iTunes library.  (The column browser works for other categories than just 
> Music, but the options you can check will be different.)
> 
> This feature has been around since the first accessible version of iTunes, 
> and earlier, and I basically just restore the iTunes options to something 
> like the original settings, which were, from memory, "Genre", "Artist", 
> "Album", and "Composer", viewed "On Top", and "Group Compilations".  This 
> last settings shows up albums that cannot be associated with single artists, 
> e.g., "Cinema Classics of 2009", under a "Compilations" category, where they 
> can be found by album title.  I believe the default setting of the browser 
> now is to only have "Artist" checked, and to display "On left", but I don't 
> recall the specifics.
> 
> Paul, in general, iTunes on your Mac can be configured to do a lot more than 
> on your iOS device, an pretty easily.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 2, 2011, at 06:58, Aser Tolentino wrote:
> 
>> In iTunes, move one element left of iTunes search, where you should find 
>> something called view mode, interact with that and select grid view. When 
>> you then scroll passed the source list, you should eventually encounter 
>> buttons that allow you to group by artist, album, genre etc. Select which 
>> one you want and then keep scrolling until you hear VoiceOver say "grid 
>> view, one item selected" or something similar. Interact with that and you 
>> should find your music sorted by the criteria you selected above.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Aser
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>>> I seem to remember a plugin for doing this some ware but can't remember 
>>> where I saw it. I would love to know if this is still possible. 
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2011-11-02, at 1:04 PM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 On an iphone, you can sort the itunes library by artist. On my mac, I only 
 see tons of songs, and if I want to delete an entire album, or all songs 
 from 1 artist, I need to carefully select e

Re: any alternatives to Drop box yet?

[Matthew Campbell]

Hi Ray.
I too am searching for a DropBox alternative but haven't found anything as of 
yet. I've contacted SugarSync about they're Mac app and have gotten a similar 
response. I've also signed up for box.net but they have no folder syncing 
capabilities unless you buy the business plan.
I'll keep continuing my search but am not very hopeful I'll find anything.
Hope this answers you're question,
Matthew Campbell


On 2011-11-06, at 1:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Subject line asks it all.  does anybody out there know of a good alternative 
> to Drop Box which will synch wiht local folders the wya Drop Box does?  I ask 
> because, as I believe we all know, Drop box is no longer very if at all 
> accessible; and, to speak frankly, it looks to me as  if the people over at 
> Drop Box couldn't give a damn whether or not we can use it.  I say this last 
> not to be sinsationlists, but rather, to point out the sad fact that quite a 
> number of us have sent feedback to Drop Box complaining to them, (oh so 
> politely mind you) that the app was really not very accessible; and, what did 
> most of us get back in response?  "We're aware of and are working on it".  
> That is as far as any of us got.
> 
> Anybody got any ideas?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Apple VIS Campaign of the month!

[Red.Falcon]

Hi all!
Apple VIS have started to campaign each month!
This month's is Skype and Apple VIS have made up a short form that you can 
submit and if you do not like or want to edit the main text field, you can do 
so!
Or just send it as it is!
You will have to register with Apple VIS to send this form and you can also 
submit suggestions for app's for future campaign's!
What do people think about doing dropbox!
Anyway you all have a great day!
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any alternatives to Drop box yet?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Subject line asks it all.  does anybody out there know of a good alternative to 
Drop Box which will synch wiht local folders the wya Drop Box does?  I ask 
because, as I believe we all know, Drop box is no longer very if at all 
accessible; and, to speak frankly, it looks to me as  if the people over at 
Drop Box couldn't give a damn whether or not we can use it.  I say this last 
not to be sinsationlists, but rather, to point out the sad fact that quite a 
number of us have sent feedback to Drop Box complaining to them, (oh so 
politely mind you) that the app was really not very accessible; and, what did 
most of us get back in response?  "We're aware of and are working on it".  That 
is as far as any of us got.

Anybody got any ideas?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: Changing label in mail msg list

[Traci]

Ricardo, thanks for this.  I'm still learning that section, but changing the 
disclosure triangle's verbosity has helped.  Lol, those 2 words right there are 
a mouthful in themselves.

I'll keep playing around to see if I can shorten things further.  I'd love it 
if we could customize the order of items being read in the msg list and keep 
the new mail layout.  :)

Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail

On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You can also try going to voiceover utilities and under verbosity/speech, try 
> messing around with some of the settings., 
> 
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> On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Traci wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> The other week, someone made the suggestion to relabel inside the msg list 
>> to shorten the extra verbiage.  Could that person or anyone expand in more 
>> detail on how to do this?
>> 
>> For example, VO currently says 3 message conversation collapsed disclosure 
>> triangle.  Boy, that is a lot to listen to, while scrolling down my msg list.
>> 
>> How do I go about changing some of that, and is the label only changed for 
>> mail?  Does it work for each incoming message?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
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apple remote desktop 3

[Cody]

Hey all,

I'm just wondering if investing in apple remote desktop version 3 is worth my 
time, in terms of accessibility. My friend Geno, who just joined the list wil 
no doubt need some help in the future on his mac. What I don't know is if I can 
remote into his machine just like one would do with jaws tandem and take 
control of his box and show him things that need to be done. For $80 it better 
make my coffee, but does anyone have any experience?

Cody

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RE: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Daniel Miller]

Open each mp3 in iTunes, and there ya go.


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Subject: Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and
television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.
However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in my
iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way
to get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should I
just "drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
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Now that blindmicemart (blindmicemegamall) is back . . .

[Christine Grassman]

The Blind Mice Movie Vault contains many, many audio-described movies and 
television shows in mp3 format.  I would like to get them onto my iPhone.  
However, for some reason, when I download them, they are not being put in my 
iTunes library.  Is there a way to do tis one case at a time, or aother way to 
get them onto my iPhone without resorting to the iTunes library? Should I just 
"drag and drop" into the library, or is there some easier method? TIA.
Christine

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problem with doc

[joseph]

hello list

doc does not tell me the number of apps i.e, finder "1 of 30".  is there any 
settings that i should adjust to restore this function?

thank you in advance

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Re: Flip4mac and Lion

[Mike Arrigo]

This is correct, flip does not play protected content, hopefully, eventually, 
html5 will be used on this site, and things like flash, silver light, etc will 
no longer be needed.
On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> flip works well on the Mac but, I don't think protected stuff will work.  
> This is a bit of a wrench thrown into flip if you ask me.  I would try using 
> realplayer on the Mac and see if there is a option on the sight to stream 
> using that.  Or, microsoft silverlight.  Silverlight works but isn't 
> accessible.  The media will start playing but you won't have access to the 
> transport controls.
> 
> hth
> 
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> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> Does anyone know whether Flip4Mac works well with Lion? I want to
>> stream audio in Safari but currently am not able to accomplish this
>> because of the lack of windows media player on the mac. What's your
>> experience and suggestions?
>> 
>> With best wishes
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac

[Esther]

Hello Nektarios,

As Anne mentioned, you can avoid the VoiceOver crashes by just navigating to 
the next page instead of interacting  (Fn+Down Arrow to page down on my MacBook 
Pro), which will also get you past the cover graphic. You do have to read by 
page, but you can just press the right arrow key to do this for successive 
pages, and you can make the font size small if you want more content on a 
single page.  Adobe Digital Editions Preview supports searching in the text and 
setting bookmarks.  It will work for reading DRM-free eBooks, or books that 
have the Adobe ADE version of DRM, which includes books you can buy from Kobo 
Books and OverDrive ePub books that can be borrowed by download through public 
libraries in the U.S., Canada, Australia, the U.K. and some other countries.

An alternate suggestion for reading ePub books without DRM, if you don't want 
to use the Copy Last Spoken Phrase to Clipboard (VO-Shift-C) and paste into 
TextEdit, is to use iText Express. The Express version of iText is free, and 
available from the Mac's App Store.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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> Hello Nektarios,
> 
> If you just go to next page, it will read automatically, but if you want to 
> look at the text closely, or read with a Braille display, then unfortunately, 
> you have to use the Copy Last Spoken Phrase to Clipboard command (VO-Shift-C) 
> to copy the page into a word processor such as TextEdit. The good thing is 
> that you don't have to listen to the whole page before doing this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 6 Nov 2011, at 14:16, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hello Anne. 
>> How do you actually read something with this program? 
>> I downloaded and installed it, but as soon as I try to interact with the 
>> text, the program crashes on me. 
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Francisco,
>>> 
>>> I use Adobe Digital Editions Preview to read ebooks on my Mac. It can read 
>>> some protected books such as those from Kobo and it's free.
>>> 
>>> Here's the download link:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 02:27, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Can you suggest me an epub ebook reader for Mac?
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Why Winamp?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

You can also use the QuickLook option to sample music that you don't wish 
imported to your iTunes Library.  Simply navigate to the folder where the music 
is and press the spacebar on it to begin playing.  If you use cmd-a to Select 
All within that given folder, you can use left and right arrow keys to go to 
Next and previous items.

Later...

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> Hello,
> 
> Like said earlier in this thread, just turn that option off in iTunes 
> preferences under advanced.  Then this becomes a non issue.
> 
> hth
> 
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> 
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> The one thing I don't like about itunes as a media player is that it insists 
>> on adding every file that is played to your library, that's why I use vlc. 
>> Itunes is not bad in itself, but I got tired of having to clean up my 
>> library all the time.
>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I hear people say this a lot but, really?  Whats so bad about iTunes on the 
>>> Mac?  I have no problems with it what so ever.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Hi donna,  Just about anything is preferable to ITunes, but I think right 
 now it's just the novelty of the thing for us windows switchers who have 
 fond memories of winamp for windows.  Especially before it got bought out 
 by AOL.  These days I get my windows clients to start out on the KM player 
 since winamp is now chuck full of bloatware.
 
 I'm not tempted to try it myself since vlc does what I need but winamp for 
 the mac has been too long in coming for sure.  Hopefully the great 
 pioneers on this list will convince AOL to take an accessible direction 
 with winamp development and then we'll have yet another option.
 
 Best,
 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I haven't really followed the winamp thread, but I'm curious as to why 
> anyone would go to all the trouble that seems to be involved in using it? 
>  Is there some reason that it's preferable to iTunes?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Nektarios,

If you just go to next page, it will read automatically, but if you want to 
look at the text closely, or read with a Braille display, then unfortunately, 
you have to use the Copy Last Spoken Phrase to Clipboard command (VO-Shift-C) 
to copy the page into a word processor such as TextEdit. The good thing is that 
you don't have to listen to the whole page before doing this.

Cheers,

Anne

On 6 Nov 2011, at 14:16, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello Anne. 
> How do you actually read something with this program? 
> I downloaded and installed it, but as soon as I try to interact with the 
> text, the program crashes on me. 
> Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Francisco,
>> 
>> I use Adobe Digital Editions Preview to read ebooks on my Mac. It can read 
>> some protected books such as those from Kobo and it's free.
>> 
>> Here's the download link:
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 02:27, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Can you suggest me an epub ebook reader for Mac?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Francisco
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Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello Anne. 
How do you actually read something with this program? 
I downloaded and installed it, but as soon as I try to interact with the text, 
the program crashes on me. 
Am I doing something wrong?

Nektarios.

On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Francisco,
> 
> I use Adobe Digital Editions Preview to read ebooks on my Mac. It can read 
> some protected books such as those from Kobo and it's free.
> 
> Here's the download link:
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 6 Nov 2011, at 02:27, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can you suggest me an epub ebook reader for Mac?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Francisco
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Re: Why Winamp?

[Scott Howell]

I have to concur that iTUnes orks perfectly and I have not had any problems 
with it beyond some issues Apple introduced with the interface, but then fixed 
within a reasonable time. The problems I have had with iTUnes has been of my 
own making. Once you learn how iTunes works, I think you will find it to meet 
nearly all of your needs. I have never found a need for any other media 
software and if I needed to convert something iTUnes cannot play, no problem, I 
have software for that as well. However, find I really don't have this issue 
either.

On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Like said earlier in this thread, just turn that option off in iTunes 
> preferences under advanced.  Then this becomes a non issue.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> The one thing I don't like about itunes as a media player is that it insists 
>> on adding every file that is played to your library, that's why I use vlc. 
>> Itunes is not bad in itself, but I got tired of having to clean up my 
>> library all the time.
>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I hear people say this a lot but, really?  Whats so bad about iTunes on the 
>>> Mac?  I have no problems with it what so ever.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Hi donna,  Just about anything is preferable to ITunes, but I think right 
 now it's just the novelty of the thing for us windows switchers who have 
 fond memories of winamp for windows.  Especially before it got bought out 
 by AOL.  These days I get my windows clients to start out on the KM player 
 since winamp is now chuck full of bloatware.
 
 I'm not tempted to try it myself since vlc does what I need but winamp for 
 the mac has been too long in coming for sure.  Hopefully the great 
 pioneers on this list will convince AOL to take an accessible direction 
 with winamp development and then we'll have yet another option.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
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> Hi all,
> 
> I haven't really followed the winamp thread, but I'm curious as to why 
> anyone would go to all the trouble that seems to be involved in using it? 
>  Is there some reason that it's preferable to iTunes?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: got Winamp to work, but, it needs quite a bit of work yet

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Mike,
I think I remember reading somewhere that vlc is also capable of acting as a 
server to do streaming audio. Do you know if that is true or not?
On Nov 6, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Think I will stick with vlc, it plays most if not all of the formats that 
> winamp does and is very accessible.
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Okay.
>> 
>> Well, I launched winamp and turned off Voice Over.  Then, pressed space bar 
>> then return.  Got the lama thingy then turned Voice Over back on.  So far as 
>> I can tell, it seems not to have ENQ.  At least, I can't find it.  Also, the 
>> only thing the preferences seems to bring up is the watch folder.  Can't 
>> focus on anything else.  Not ready for serious consideration yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
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Re: Flip4mac and Lion

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

flip works well on the Mac but, I don't think protected stuff will work.  This 
is a bit of a wrench thrown into flip if you ask me.  I would try using 
realplayer on the Mac and see if there is a option on the sight to stream using 
that.  Or, microsoft silverlight.  Silverlight works but isn't accessible.  The 
media will start playing but you won't have access to the transport controls.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
> Does anyone know whether Flip4Mac works well with Lion? I want to
> stream audio in Safari but currently am not able to accomplish this
> because of the lack of windows media player on the mac. What's your
> experience and suggestions?
> 
> With best wishes
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Why Winamp?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

Like said earlier in this thread, just turn that option off in iTunes 
preferences under advanced.  Then this becomes a non issue.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 5, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> The one thing I don't like about itunes as a media player is that it insists 
> on adding every file that is played to your library, that's why I use vlc. 
> Itunes is not bad in itself, but I got tired of having to clean up my library 
> all the time.
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> I hear people say this a lot but, really?  Whats so bad about iTunes on the 
>> Mac?  I have no problems with it what so ever.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi donna,  Just about anything is preferable to ITunes, but I think right 
>>> now it's just the novelty of the thing for us windows switchers who have 
>>> fond memories of winamp for windows.  Especially before it got bought out 
>>> by AOL.  These days I get my windows clients to start out on the KM player 
>>> since winamp is now chuck full of bloatware.
>>> 
>>> I'm not tempted to try it myself since vlc does what I need but winamp for 
>>> the mac has been too long in coming for sure.  Hopefully the great pioneers 
>>> on this list will convince AOL to take an accessible direction with winamp 
>>> development and then we'll have yet another option.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When 
>>> will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference 
>>> Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
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>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-11-05, at 8:43 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I haven't really followed the winamp thread, but I'm curious as to why 
 anyone would go to all the trouble that seems to be involved in using it?  
 Is there some reason that it's preferable to iTunes?
 Cheers,
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RE: aspiring apple developer -- help!

[Daniel Miller]

Unfortunately, the only way to develop for iOS is using Xcode, on the mac.
You can't develop straight from the phone, as far as I'm aware. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:34 AM
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Subject: Re: aspiring apple developer -- help!

Hi Guys.
My sighted husband is also thinking about learning to be a developer of
iPhone and/or iPad devices. He does not have a Mac. I can't let him use mine
because I need mine all the time for my business. He went to iTunes U and
downloaded one of the lessons to his iPhone. The professor on there said
that he would need a Mac in order to send in his final program (I think I
have this straight.) If blind folks can put their program onto the iPhone
because the Mac versions are not accessible, how can he do this directly on
the iPhone and send in his program for them to evaluate it? I hope this
question makes sense. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> From what I've read, and understand, people build their UIs all 
> through code, they don't use any sort of interface builder, since 
> that's not accessible at this current time. I'm also learning to 
> develop for iOS as well. Also, the iOS simulator isn't' currently 
> accessible, so people just put the compiled apps straight on the phone.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sandi sørensen
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: aspiring apple developer -- help!
> 
> hi.
> the best will be to start using the dummies books, and this is not 
> meant in any sarcastic manner. The reason might be  that the books if
there are any "
> have not checked" might explain in depth to you why you are doing as 
> you are.
> also a little know how about C will not hurt you the smallest. :) i 
> wish you good luck.
> best Sandi
> 
> On 11/6/11, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:
>> Hi listers,
>> I am doing my Undergrad in Computer science. I have been using VO on 
>> the mac since 2 years and VO on the iOS since 1 Year. I wish to 
>> develop apps for the iOS. I would like your suggestions on a few 
>> questions  regarding app development.
>> 1. where do I start?
>> I visited the iOS dev center and found a huge volume of resources.
>> many books, and videos. but I am not sure about where to start and 
>> how to proceed with learning the  required platforms  for development.
>> 2. is the entire development process accessible?
>> what concerns me related to accessibility is the UI design for the 
>> application and the mapping of the functions to various interactive 
>> elements on screen.(interface builder)  From a video I saw, I 
>> understood that one will have to drag various elements to a 
>> particular area and map each element to a controller function. is my 
>> perception wrong? of it is not, is there a workaround for this 
>> particular phase of development that makes this process accessible with
VO?
>> 3. How do I test?
>> I learned that xCode provides a facility to test apps by running them 
>> on an emulator and provides various statistics about resource usage.
>> is this accessible with VO?
>> 4. when do I become a member of a developer program?
>> I wanted your say about the appropriate time to become a member of 
>> the apple developer program.
>> Is it better if I pay for It now or go ahead with it after I am 
>> familiar with developing for the iOS platform.
>> I apologize if this mail was too long and I thank you for reading 
>> through the entire mail :) Any answers will be of great help.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
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Re: aspiring apple developer -- help!

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Guys.
My sighted husband is also thinking about learning to be a developer of iPhone 
and/or iPad devices. He does not have a Mac. I can't let him use mine because I 
need mine all the time for my business. He went to iTunes U and downloaded one 
of the lessons to his iPhone. The professor on there said that he would need a 
Mac in order to send in his final program (I think I have this straight.) If 
blind folks can put their program onto the iPhone because the Mac versions are 
not accessible, how can he do this directly on the iPhone and send in his 
program for them to evaluate it? I hope this question makes sense. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> From what I've read, and understand, people build their UIs all through
> code, they don't use any sort of interface builder, since that's not
> accessible at this current time. I'm also learning to develop for iOS as
> well. Also, the iOS simulator isn't' currently accessible, so people just
> put the compiled apps straight on the phone.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sandi sørensen
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: aspiring apple developer -- help!
> 
> hi.
> the best will be to start using the dummies books, and this is not meant in
> any sarcastic manner. The reason might be  that the books if there are any "
> have not checked" might explain in depth to you why you are doing as you
> are.
> also a little know how about C will not hurt you the smallest. :) i wish you
> good luck.
> best Sandi
> 
> On 11/6/11, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:
>> Hi listers,
>> I am doing my Undergrad in Computer science. I have been using VO on 
>> the mac since 2 years and VO on the iOS since 1 Year. I wish to 
>> develop apps for the iOS. I would like your suggestions on a few 
>> questions  regarding app development.
>> 1. where do I start?
>> I visited the iOS dev center and found a huge volume of resources.
>> many books, and videos. but I am not sure about where to start and how 
>> to proceed with learning the  required platforms  for development.
>> 2. is the entire development process accessible?
>> what concerns me related to accessibility is the UI design for the 
>> application and the mapping of the functions to various interactive 
>> elements on screen.(interface builder)  From a video I saw, I 
>> understood that one will have to drag various elements to a particular 
>> area and map each element to a controller function. is my perception 
>> wrong? of it is not, is there a workaround for this particular phase 
>> of development that makes this process accessible with VO?
>> 3. How do I test?
>> I learned that xCode provides a facility to test apps by running them 
>> on an emulator and provides various statistics about resource usage.
>> is this accessible with VO?
>> 4. when do I become a member of a developer program?
>> I wanted your say about the appropriate time to become a member of the 
>> apple developer program.
>> Is it better if I pay for It now or go ahead with it after I am 
>> familiar with developing for the iOS platform.
>> I apologize if this mail was too long and I thank you for reading 
>> through the entire mail :) Any answers will be of great help.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
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RE: aspiring apple developer -- help!

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

>From what I've read, and understand, people build their UIs all through
code, they don't use any sort of interface builder, since that's not
accessible at this current time. I'm also learning to develop for iOS as
well. Also, the iOS simulator isn't' currently accessible, so people just
put the compiled apps straight on the phone.


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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: aspiring apple developer -- help!

hi.
the best will be to start using the dummies books, and this is not meant in
any sarcastic manner. The reason might be  that the books if there are any "
have not checked" might explain in depth to you why you are doing as you
are.
also a little know how about C will not hurt you the smallest. :) i wish you
good luck.
best Sandi

On 11/6/11, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:
> Hi listers,
> I am doing my Undergrad in Computer science. I have been using VO on 
> the mac since 2 years and VO on the iOS since 1 Year. I wish to 
> develop apps for the iOS. I would like your suggestions on a few 
> questions  regarding app development.
> 1. where do I start?
> I visited the iOS dev center and found a huge volume of resources.
> many books, and videos. but I am not sure about where to start and how 
> to proceed with learning the  required platforms  for development.
> 2. is the entire development process accessible?
> what concerns me related to accessibility is the UI design for the 
> application and the mapping of the functions to various interactive 
> elements on screen.(interface builder)  From a video I saw, I 
> understood that one will have to drag various elements to a particular 
> area and map each element to a controller function. is my perception 
> wrong? of it is not, is there a workaround for this particular phase 
> of development that makes this process accessible with VO?
> 3. How do I test?
> I learned that xCode provides a facility to test apps by running them 
> on an emulator and provides various statistics about resource usage.
> is this accessible with VO?
> 4. when do I become a member of a developer program?
> I wanted your say about the appropriate time to become a member of the 
> apple developer program.
>  Is it better if I pay for It now or go ahead with it after I am 
> familiar with developing for the iOS platform.
> I apologize if this mail was too long and I thank you for reading 
> through the entire mail :) Any answers will be of great help.
>
> Thank you.
> Cheers
>
>
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Re: aspiring apple developer -- help!

[sandi sørensen]

hi.
the best will be to start using the dummies books, and this is not
meant in any sarcastic manner. The reason might be  that the books if
there are any " have not checked" might explain in depth to you why
you are doing as you are.
also a little know how about C will not hurt you the smallest. :)
i wish you good luck.
best Sandi

On 11/6/11, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:
> Hi listers,
> I am doing my Undergrad in Computer science. I have been using VO on
> the mac since 2 years and VO on the iOS since 1 Year. I wish to
> develop apps for the iOS. I would like your suggestions on a few
> questions  regarding app development.
> 1. where do I start?
> I visited the iOS dev center and found a huge volume of resources.
> many books, and videos. but I am not sure about where to start and how
> to proceed with learning the  required platforms  for development.
> 2. is the entire development process accessible?
> what concerns me related to accessibility is the UI design for the
> application and the mapping of the functions to various interactive
> elements on screen.(interface builder)  From a video I saw, I
> understood that one will have to drag various elements to a particular
> area and map each element to a controller function. is my perception
> wrong? of it is not, is there a workaround for this particular phase
> of development that makes this process accessible with VO?
> 3. How do I test?
> I learned that xCode provides a facility to test apps by running them
> on an emulator and provides various statistics about resource usage.
> is this accessible with VO?
> 4. when do I become a member of a developer program?
> I wanted your say about the appropriate time to become a member of the
> apple developer program.
>  Is it better if I pay for It now or go ahead with it after I am
> familiar with developing for the iOS platform.
> I apologize if this mail was too long and I thank you for reading
> through the entire mail :)
> Any answers will be of great help.
>
> Thank you.
> Cheers
>
>
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Flip4mac and Lion

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

Does anyone know whether Flip4Mac works well with Lion? I want to
stream audio in Safari but currently am not able to accomplish this
because of the lack of windows media player on the mac. What's your
experience and suggestions?

With best wishes

Andrew

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Re: impossible anymore to like or comment on people's Facebook posts

[Massimo Vettoretti]

In data Domenica 6 Novembre 2011 9.45.56, Rahul Bajaj 
 ha scritto:

What do you actually get by emulating?
Emulating is not a solution, it is only a work around. And it is not 
possible under IOS, I think. :-(



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Re: impossible anymore to like or comment on people's Facebook posts

[Rahul Bajaj]

What do you actually get by emulating?

On 06/11/2011, Traci  wrote:
> I'm using my Mac and I don't know about emulating. Would that be something
> set up automatically?
>
> Traci
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>
>> Tracy, are you imulating IE8 from your developer menu?  Or, are you using
>> your Iphone?  It won't work with my Iphone anymore.  It don't work with my
>> Mac either unless I imulate IE8.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Traci wrote:
>>
>>> It baffles me how everyone can have such different experiences with the
>>> fb site.  Is it possible my Facebook page isn't updated yet?
>>>
>>> I just hopped on there to see what folks were talking about and I saw the
>>> like and comment buttons just below the posts.  I liked navigating via
>>> headings, and how the heading included the person's name and their post.
>>>
>>> Wonder why it doesn't seem changed for me yet?
>>>
>>> Traci
>>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>>
 ok.
 I couldn't find it the first time. there are about 20 user-agent strings
 in there. that should make life a little easier.

 -eric

 On Nov 5, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, eric,
>
> In Safari preferences, go to advanced and choose "show developer menu".
>  Then go into the "develop" menu, the user agent submenu, and you can
> choose IE 8 or 9 from there.
>
> HTH,
> Teresa
>
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>
>> do any of you have the instructions to change the user-agent string in
>> safari so that it reports as internet explorer 8?
>>
>> I am on OS X using safari and my problems with its user-agent go far
>> beyond Facebook.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> hello; I've been using the regular version of facebook again.  I can
>>> scrowl through just fine.  when i press comment it opens the edit
>>> field and leaves me there after i press enter or the button.  but
>>> when i click like it kicks me back to the top of the page.  wish they
>>> would go back to the way it was about six months ago.  good luck, max
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>
 But that's what I mean.  IF there isn't a comment already you cannot
 do it.  that sucks now.


 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 Skype name:
 barefootedray

 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



 On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:

> I think the way to do it now is to click on someone's comment and
> then there's a like button comes up by their name and a comment box
> under any other comments. Can't remember how to do it if there
> isn't already an existing comment.
> On 5 Nov 2011, at 17:17, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
>> Has any Iphone or Mac user here noticed that, of late, it has
>> become impossible to comment or like other people's Face Book
>> Posts either by using Safari or the normal Face Book ap via the
>> Iphone?  The only way I seem now to be able to comment or like
>> other posts is by imulating IE 8 on Safari.  Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
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aspiring apple developer -- help!

[Venkatesh Potluri]

Hi listers,
I am doing my Undergrad in Computer science. I have been using VO on
the mac since 2 years and VO on the iOS since 1 Year. I wish to
develop apps for the iOS. I would like your suggestions on a few
questions  regarding app development.
1. where do I start?
I visited the iOS dev center and found a huge volume of resources.
many books, and videos. but I am not sure about where to start and how
to proceed with learning the  required platforms  for development.
2. is the entire development process accessible?
what concerns me related to accessibility is the UI design for the
application and the mapping of the functions to various interactive
elements on screen.(interface builder)  From a video I saw, I
understood that one will have to drag various elements to a particular
area and map each element to a controller function. is my perception
wrong? of it is not, is there a workaround for this particular phase
of development that makes this process accessible with VO?
3. How do I test?
I learned that xCode provides a facility to test apps by running them
on an emulator and provides various statistics about resource usage.
is this accessible with VO?
4. when do I become a member of a developer program?
I wanted your say about the appropriate time to become a member of the
apple developer program.
 Is it better if I pay for It now or go ahead with it after I am
familiar with developing for the iOS platform.
I apologize if this mail was too long and I thank you for reading
through the entire mail :)
Any answers will be of great help.

Thank you.
Cheers


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Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Francisco,

I use Adobe Digital Editions Preview to read ebooks on my Mac. It can read some 
protected books such as those from Kobo and it's free.

Here's the download link:


Cheers,

Anne

On 6 Nov 2011, at 02:27, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Can you suggest me an epub ebook reader for Mac?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Francisco
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