really want to leave numbers but don't want to use windows
What a dilemma. Iwork's numbers doesn't even have the goal seek function for budgets, an essential feature for any business. And it's not there, i need to find workarounds for it. This is really annoying me, and all the other lacks bugs and continuous neglect from apple about this office suite. I even wonder why i baught the freaking thing as it has only given me headaches and nothing productive. Sorry for the rant everyone, but sometimes i can't believe how far back this application is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
apple accessability phone number
Hi fokes, What is the number for the apple accessibility line again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something I just Learned With Skype and Growl
hello shawn. I performed this Growl procedure months ago, using skype 5.3, another Skype correspondant made me hear his system reading messages by Growl and I was really impressed. But, it did not work to me at all! I used it with 5.5 too, nothing worked I'll try it with last version. I mean, the voice just repeats: *contact says without telling me the message content I'll install newest skype when coming home this evening, now my macbook pro has skype 5.2, I just downgraded because skype 5.5 gave me problems -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something I just Learned With Skype and Growl
not interested in hearing ur things On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Elena Brescacin talks...@gmail.com wrote: hello shawn. I performed this Growl procedure months ago, using skype 5.3, another Skype correspondant made me hear his system reading messages by Growl and I was really impressed. But, it did not work to me at all! I used it with 5.5 too, nothing worked I'll try it with last version. I mean, the voice just repeats: *contact says without telling me the message content I'll install newest skype when coming home this evening, now my macbook pro has skype 5.2, I just downgraded because skype 5.5 gave me problems -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- *Aashish Dhakan* *Property Consultant* *0501021539, 0556970767* *Good Morning Property Real Estate* *International city, Eng X-7, office no 2* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something I just Learned With Skype and Growl
if you are not interested, just create a filter in your gmail address and talks...@gmail.com messages will be deleted automatically so please do not annoy me again 2012/3/19, aashish dhakan aashishdha...@gmail.com: not interested in hearing ur things On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Elena Brescacin talks...@gmail.com wrote: hello shawn. I performed this Growl procedure months ago, using skype 5.3, another Skype correspondant made me hear his system reading messages by Growl and I was really impressed. But, it did not work to me at all! I used it with 5.5 too, nothing worked I'll try it with last version. I mean, the voice just repeats: *contact says without telling me the message content I'll install newest skype when coming home this evening, now my macbook pro has skype 5.2, I just downgraded because skype 5.5 gave me problems -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- *Aashish Dhakan* *Property Consultant* *0501021539, 0556970767* *Good Morning Property Real Estate* *International city, Eng X-7, office no 2* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Questions about Prismo
Can I use this app successfully on an iPhone 4? Can I even use it to recognize text on a computer or any other screen? -- Christopher H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Merging google calendar with iCal
I would also like to know, only if it's possible to merge a hotmail calendar. My wife sent me an invite to hers, and I would like to merge it with my Mac and iphone. Thanks. BILL HOLTON Email: b...@bholton.com Direct: 386-624-6309 Homepage: www.bholton.com Home Office:1520 Loughton ST DeLand, FL 32720 -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Malarsie Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Merging google calendar with iCal Greetings, Does anyone know how to merge google and iCal events? A friend who I am training with for a marathon has send me a calendar of our training and I have accepted it via google. I am now trying to merge this new stuff to my iCal. I tried the delegation option in the preferences but it tells me that the calendar can only be found in an un secure location and then just fails. Thank you for any help at all. I am a bit lost. Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Merging google calendar with iCal
Hi guys. Is there not a topic in the help centre fore this? Just wondering as I am contemplating using google calendars possibly in the future. On 2012-03-19, at 8:46 AM, Bill Holton wrote: I would also like to know, only if it's possible to merge a hotmail calendar. My wife sent me an invite to hers, and I would like to merge it with my Mac and iphone. Thanks. BILL HOLTON Email:b...@bholton.com Direct: 386-624-6309 Homepage: www.bholton.com Home Office: 1520 Loughton ST DeLand, FL 32720 -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Malarsie Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Merging google calendar with iCal Greetings, Does anyone know how to merge google and iCal events? A friend who I am training with for a marathon has send me a calendar of our training and I have accepted it via google. I am now trying to merge this new stuff to my iCal. I tried the delegation option in the preferences but it tells me that the calendar can only be found in an un secure location and then just fails. Thank you for any help at all. I am a bit lost. Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
looking for a good temperature monitoring app
Hi, subject line says it all. anybody know of a good accessible app for monitoring GPU temperature and so on? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
new iPad test results
We got our new iPad (3? whatever it is) on Friday and we've been testing this weekend. 1. It has a faster processor and the results are clearly evident on the performance of VoiceOver which is quicker and (it seems) more accurate). 2. The camera is greatly improved. That, combined with the faster processor is turning out to have exceptionally good capture results with Digit-Eyes. We are catching bar codes at distances that we've previously been unable to achieve and the speed of the processor really makes the app fast! 3. The camera does not have flash. This is, we feel a negative, although it seems to be quite good in low light conditions. 4. The zoom feature and the excellence of the display made this (for me) a very good magnifier. Using it in camera mode, I was able to easily expand small text to be comfortably readable. This is certainly going to be very useful for folks with low vision. All in all, it is an excellent product! As a result, we'll be releasing Digit-Eyes officially for this version of the iPad sometime in the next couple of weeks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: looking for a good temperature monitoring app
I've not played with it but iStat is a widget which will give you temperatures of various components. It's free so give it a whirl: http://islayer.com/apps/istatpro/ I also found two temp monitoring apps in the app store which show the various system temps, but they were not free: Temperature Gauge - $8 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/temperature-gauge/id467830521?mt=12 Desktop Monitor - $2 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/desktopmonitor/id432948323?mt=12 There is also Temperature Monitor which is free and has a terminal interface: http://www.bresink.de/osx/0TemperatureMonitor/download.php5 and supposedly you can then do tempmonitor -ds -c -a -l | grep DIODE | sed -e 's/^[^:]*: //' to get the temperature output. There is a command called ioreg in the terminal that supposedly has everything in it somewhere but I couldn't figure out where the GPU temp was in that long blob of text. CB On 3/19/12 8:56 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi, subject line says it all. anybody know of a good accessible app for monitoring GPU temperature and so on? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 http://m.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1?refid=0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hello Chris, I use Prizmo very successfully on my iPhone 4, but it's extremely difficult to get good results from a computer screen. I get really good results from books and other printed materials. I have no light perception so use the Light Detector app to check that there is sufficient light for Prizmo to work. Cheers, Anne On 19 Mar 2012, at 13:24, chris hallsworth wrote: Can I use this app successfully on an iPhone 4? Can I even use it to recognize text on a computer or any other screen? -- Christopher H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple accessability phone number
Hi, 1-877-204-3930. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fokes, What is the number for the apple accessibility line again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple accessability phone number
thanks so much for that information. On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, 1-877-204-3930. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fokes, What is the number for the apple accessibility line again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver wouldn't read information
Did you interact with the dialog box? I have found that sometimes it will type if I don't interact with it, and other times I have to interact before I type. I know that sounds weird, just my experience. Nancy On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi again guys. This question is for the future because my mother read the screen and solved the problem by telling me where my cursor was. My sister has a Wi-Fi network, and I wanted to join it. I got the choices, but VoiceOver wouldn't read the information in the dialog boxes no matter what I did. It kept reading the contents of my desktop. At one point, I was on the place to type in the password, but VoiceOver never said so. When my mother told me my cursor was there and I typed it, then it joined right away. I have never had this happen before, although I haven't joined too many networks. Eventually I will want to join hotel networks or maybe a public one somewhere? Does anyone have a clue why VoiceOver would behave like this? I tried several settings to see if that was the problem. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Advanced ClicktoPlugin Question: Adding Killer File For Silverlight
Hi, all, I found this very intriguing page on the developer site. http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/killers.xhtml Under the heading: how to add killers it mentions adding a URL to a script-list after opening ClicktoPlugin preferences. I have no idea which area he is referring to. I don't see a script list in the preferences pane, nor in the pList file. I realize I know just enough to make me dangerous, but is there anyone who can help? Thanks, Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hello Anne. I haven't had much success with Prismo yet. What is the light Detector Ap? Can you tell me exactly what you do to get Prismo to scan and recognize text? Thanks so much. On Mar 19, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Chris, I use Prizmo very successfully on my iPhone 4, but it's extremely difficult to get good results from a computer screen. I get really good results from books and other printed materials. I have no light perception so use the Light Detector app to check that there is sufficient light for Prizmo to work. Cheers, Anne On 19 Mar 2012, at 13:24, chris hallsworth wrote: Can I use this app successfully on an iPhone 4? Can I even use it to recognize text on a computer or any other screen? -- Christopher H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Budgetting programs
Hello Sari. Where can I get this program? I would like to evaluate it. On Mar 18, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Checkbook is what you want. I use it to budget multiple accounts, and it does the math for you. On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: Hi, Thanks for that. But a spreadsheet program doesn't do it for me. I require the program to be able to set up categories or buckets. Then when I import the data, it automatically adds the transferred to the relevant category. Then I can see at a glance what category is spending what. From this you can create your budget and plan. I have looked at the following and finding a range of issues: Savings Budget MoneyWell Ibank All of the above have some problem in relation to accessibility. Quickin is the only app I haven't used and wish to know if it has any accessibility issues. Sean On 19/03/2012, at 4:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Sean. It may not be what you are looking for, but I put my banking information, both for my business and home on to Numbers. I just made the columns I needed, and it seems to be working just fine. If you're interested in printing checks, which I'm not, then I guess it won't work. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: Hi All. I am seeking for a Budget program on the Mac. I have looked at IBank and the table of transactions were not accessible. I have looked at savings and you cannot edit transactions while everything else seems to be accessible. I am ware of Envelopes Cash management web site. But I don't like the idea of my finances being located on someone else's equipment. It is out of my control which makes me very uncomfortable. Any ideas? Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver wouldn't read information
Hi guys I thought I am interrupted with it but I can't remember for sure where I interacted. However, I did discovered that I could use the universal access up a menu to do it. I had to do it again, and that's what I did. It works fine that way. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Dr. Nancy Badger Ph.D. nancywyma...@gmail.com wrote: Did you interact with the dialog box? I have found that sometimes it will type if I don't interact with it, and other times I have to interact before I type. I know that sounds weird, just my experience. Nancy On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi again guys. This question is for the future because my mother read the screen and solved the problem by telling me where my cursor was. My sister has a Wi-Fi network, and I wanted to join it. I got the choices, but VoiceOver wouldn't read the information in the dialog boxes no matter what I did. It kept reading the contents of my desktop. At one point, I was on the place to type in the password, but VoiceOver never said so. When my mother told me my cursor was there and I typed it, then it joined right away. I have never had this happen before, although I haven't joined too many networks. Eventually I will want to join hotel networks or maybe a public one somewhere? Does anyone have a clue why VoiceOver would behave like this? I tried several settings to see if that was the problem. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in place, double tap the Settings, back button in the top left corner to return to the Settings screen, then double tap the Done button in the top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen. The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, followed by a Documents button at the bottom of the screen that are results you want to store in the app. In general, you will choose to double tap Text (the first listed entry). The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the bottom of the the next (Photo) screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image using the Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken outside the app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before OCR -- generally requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to only include the part of the image that contains text or correct for distorted pictures because you didn't hold the iPhone flat), and (3) OCR (perform the OCR with an option to choose the language to improve the OCR), then display the results for editing, copying, etc. or saving in the app's stored Documents. You can navigate through the app without ever using these buttons, just by double tapping the Next button in the top right corner of the screen to move through each stage, and that's probably the easiest way to use the app when you get started, especially if you only work with documents in English. However, if you want to OCR a document in a different language, you can improve your results by double tapping the OCR button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the screen) and then flicking left to the language button (e.g., English) in the row of option buttons for that screen, and double tapping. You'll be able to double tap another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that you will not hear selected announced beside the currently selected language in the list, but you can only exit the Language menu by either double tapping a new language selection or by double tapping the Cancel button in the top right corner. Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and returned to the Photo screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the new language, French, announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting the OCR language before applying the next button improves the recognition of words with accented characters -- otherwise I may get a 6 for an e with acute accent, and other such examples. Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the Settings menu as outlined earlier. It is very helpful to use the $0.99 Light Detector app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of the optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use Prizmo. (You can hear when the Light Detector signal is loudest if you move the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to the page. This only gives a rough sense of where to position the phone when you use Prizmo, but if you can't hear any difference in signal with Light Detector when you move the phone around over the page, chances are that either the background light level is too low to take a good image, or you're blocking the light source with part of your body. You should also use a headset connected to the headphone jack, since as soon as the iPhone camera is accessed in a mode that is capable of responding to your spoken Take Picture command the volume of VoiceOver through the speaker will drop, and not get restored until you exit the camera screen either by double tapping the Use button in the bottom right corner of the screen or the Retake button in the
Re: Questions about Prismo
sorry to ask. is this for the ipad or iphone? also will it work on the 3GS? is there a link for the developer and also is this free or paid? cheers lew On 19 Mar 2012, at 19:07, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in place, double tap the Settings, back button in the top left corner to return to the Settings screen, then double tap the Done button in the top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen. The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, followed by a Documents button at the bottom of the screen that are results you want to store in the app. In general, you will choose to double tap Text (the first listed entry). The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the bottom of the the next (Photo) screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image using the Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken outside the app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before OCR -- generally requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to only include the part of the image that contains text or correct for distorted pictures because you didn't hold the iPhone flat), and (3) OCR (perform the OCR with an option to choose the language to improve the OCR), then display the results for editing, copying, etc. or saving in the app's stored Documents. You can navigate through the app without ever using these buttons, just by double tapping the Next button in the top right corner of the screen to move through each stage, and that's probably the easiest way to use the app when you get started, especially if you only work with documents in English. However, if you want to OCR a document in a different language, you can improve your results by double tapping the OCR button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the screen) and then flicking left to the language button (e.g., English) in the row of option buttons for that screen, and double tapping. You'll be able to double tap another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that you will not hear selected announced beside the currently selected language in the list, but you can only exit the Language menu by either double tapping a new language selection or by double tapping the Cancel button in the top right corner. Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and returned to the Photo screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the new language, French, announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting the OCR language before applying the next button improves the recognition of words with accented characters -- otherwise I may get a 6 for an e with acute accent, and other such examples. Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the Settings menu as outlined earlier. It is very helpful to use the $0.99 Light Detector app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of the optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use Prizmo. (You can hear when the Light Detector signal is loudest if you move the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to the page. This only gives a rough sense of where to position the phone when you use Prizmo, but if you can't hear any difference in signal with Light Detector when you move the phone around over the page, chances are that either the background light level is too low to take a good image, or you're blocking the light source with part of your body. You should also use a headset connected to the headphone jack, since as soon as the iPhone camera is accessed in a mode that
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hello Lew, I don't know how well it would work on an iPad, but I use it on my iPhone. It costs €7.99 so I should think that would be £5.99 or something like that. The developer is Creaceed. Cheers, Anne On 19 Mar 2012, at 20:19, Lewis Alexander wrote: sorry to ask. is this for the ipad or iphone? also will it work on the 3GS? is there a link for the developer and also is this free or paid? cheers lew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hello Paul, I use the light detector app from Everyware Technologies (the developers of TypeInBraille) to check lighting conditions before using Prizmo: * Light Detector ($0.99) by Everyware Technologies: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/light-detector/id420929143?mt=8 As Anne said, the app plays a tone which rises with increasing light level in the direction you point your iPhone camera. There's a Vision Australia podcast by David Woodbridge about using Light Detector to check whether lights are on, whether blinds need to be pulled, etc. If you haven't subscribed to David's Apple and other Accessible Technology podcast, you can download it from either his podbean web site or feed: http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/ feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ Look for Using Light Detector app with VoiceOver on the iPhone. Other list members use this app to check for which lights are on for washers or driers, or to monitor the modem cable box lights. You can even use this app to get a rough idea of how high above the page you need to hold your iPhone for using OCR apps like Prizmo or TextGrabber. If you want to try this, place the paper on a flat surface, launch the Light Detector app, and place your iPhone so that the camera lens (upper right corner) is approximately centered in the page you want to scan, and the sides of your iPhone are aligned parallel to the edges of the paper. Then lift your iPhone directly up, so that it is parallel to the table. You should hear the tone get louder as you lift, reaching a maximum between about seven to nine inches above a standard letter or A4 page -- roughly twice the long dimension of the iPhone. This is only very approximate, by the way, and while you'll probably want to use two hands to lift your iPhone for the OCR pictures, you can do this experiment with the Light Detector app with one hand. You should also be able to move the iPhone towards you or away from you, or in circles at the height where the tone is loudest when you lift directly centered on the page, and hear the difference in sound. And if I can't hear an audible difference in the sound level when I hold my iPhone above the page I want to OCR, and when I move the iPhone from left to right using the Light Detector app, while holding it at about height I'd use to take a picture (about twice the height of the iPhone above the page -- doesn't have to be at all precise), then I know that either there's not enough light for taking a good picture, or else the light source might be blocked by something -- e.g., if I'm standing between the window and the page. I don't go through all this every time I use the Light Detector, but it may help a first-time user to gain confidence in estimating how high the iPhone should be held. It also works to help you figure out how to adjust the height you use for a smaller or larger piece of paper. A lot of this is about getting close enough to the optimal settings to start getting usable results. Once you're in the ballpark, you can experiment with how you use the Prizmo app to fine tune your efforts. The instructions Anne posted were from last year -- pre-iOS 5. Those people who don't want to use headsets when using Prizmo with voice activation can disable this and follow David Chittenden's instructions about either manually placing his finger on the camera button and trying to take the picture with a split tap with minimum shake, or using the new iOS 5 feature of pressing the volume button on the side to take a picture. You should also be able to press the volume adjust button on the iPhone headset to take a picture under iOS 5. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hi Lew, The iPad 2 camera is too low resolution to give good results with Prizmo, at least for visually impaired users. You can also tell this is the case by trying to run Prizmo on a screen captured image -- where there is no shake in taking a picture -- and comparing the results on an iPhone and an iPad. Now, the resolution used for screen capture doesn't have to be the same as what's used for the camera, but it's possible to tell that the same screens that I can OCR with the iPhone 4 start to mistake letters on the iPad 2 screen captures. For example, you can check this if you capture a screen of text from iBooks. While a few people have gotten results using Prizmo on the iPhone 3GS, reportedly the camera on this isn't really good enough for regular use by visually impaired individuals. When Prizmo was first being intensely discussed on the viphone list, with a lot of suggestions by Sandy Tomkins of practical ways to improve results, Rose Morales was able to get a near-perfect OCR of a book page on her iPhone 3GS at the first try. That's very unusual, and it was enough to make some people, like Geoff Waaler, purchase the app. He was able to use it to get some results on the iPhone 3GS, but really the place where he's now using Prizmo is his iPhone 4S. I'd say that you'd really want an iPhone 4 or 4S to use Prizmo. The new iPad camera is supposed to be as good as the camera on the iPhone 4, so that might also be a possibility. Here's the App Store link: • Prizmo ($9.99) by Creaceed: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8 HTH. By the way, there's also a Mac version of Prizmo which uses the camera on your computer. I don't recommend that application for visually impaired users, despite the success of their iOS app. Cheers, Esther On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lew, I don't know how well it would work on an iPad, but I use it on my iPhone. It costs €7.99 so I should think that would be £5.99 or something like that. The developer is Creaceed. Cheers, Anne On 19 Mar 2012, at 20:19, Lewis Alexander wrote: sorry to ask. is this for the ipad or iphone? also will it work on the 3GS? is there a link for the developer and also is this free or paid? cheers lew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
ah. sorry got my wires crossed on this lol. when this app was mentioned earlier regarding light sensing, I thought this was just a light scanner to tell a blind user what level of light is in a room or being given by a bulb or anything like that, oops lew On 19 Mar 2012, at 20:27, Esther wrote: Hi Lew, The iPad 2 camera is too low resolution to give good results with Prizmo, at least for visually impaired users. You can also tell this is the case by trying to run Prizmo on a screen captured image -- where there is no shake in taking a picture -- and comparing the results on an iPhone and an iPad. Now, the resolution used for screen capture doesn't have to be the same as what's used for the camera, but it's possible to tell that the same screens that I can OCR with the iPhone 4 start to mistake letters on the iPad 2 screen captures. For example, you can check this if you capture a screen of text from iBooks. While a few people have gotten results using Prizmo on the iPhone 3GS, reportedly the camera on this isn't really good enough for regular use by visually impaired individuals. When Prizmo was first being intensely discussed on the viphone list, with a lot of suggestions by Sandy Tomkins of practical ways to improve results, Rose Morales was able to get a near-perfect OCR of a book page on her iPhone 3GS at the first try. That's very unusual, and it was enough to make some people, like Geoff Waaler, purchase the app. He was able to use it to get some results on the iPhone 3GS, but really the place where he's now using Prizmo is his iPhone 4S. I'd say that you'd really want an iPhone 4 or 4S to use Prizmo. The new iPad camera is supposed to be as good as the camera on the iPhone 4, so that might also be a possibility. Here's the App Store link: • Prizmo ($9.99) by Creaceed: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8 HTH. By the way, there's also a Mac version of Prizmo which uses the camera on your computer. I don't recommend that application for visually impaired users, despite the success of their iOS app. Cheers, Esther On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Lew, I don't know how well it would work on an iPad, but I use it on my iPhone. It costs €7.99 so I should think that would be £5.99 or something like that. The developer is Creaceed. Cheers, Anne On 19 Mar 2012, at 20:19, Lewis Alexander wrote: sorry to ask. is this for the ipad or iphone? also will it work on the 3GS? is there a link for the developer and also is this free or paid? cheers lew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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That sounds way too complicated for me. Is there an easier program? Also is there a bar code reader ap and what info does it tell you? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in place, double tap the Settings, back button in the top left corner to return to the Settings screen, then double tap the Done button in the top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen. The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, followed by a Documents button at the bottom of the screen that are results you want to store in the app. In general, you will choose to double tap Text (the first listed entry). The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the bottom of the the next (Photo) screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image using the Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken outside the app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before OCR -- generally requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to only include the part of the image that contains text or correct for distorted pictures because you didn't hold the iPhone flat), and (3) OCR (perform the OCR with an option to choose the language to improve the OCR), then display the results for editing, copying, etc. or saving in the app's stored Documents. You can navigate through the app without ever using these buttons, just by double tapping the Next button in the top right corner of the screen to move through each stage, and that's probably the easiest way to use the app when you get started, especially if you only work with documents in English. However, if you want to OCR a document in a different language, you can improve your results by double tapping the OCR button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the screen) and then flicking left to the language button (e.g., English) in the row of option buttons for that screen, and double tapping. You'll be able to double tap another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that you will not hear selected announced beside the currently selected language in the list, but you can only exit the Language menu by either double tapping a new language selection or by double tapping the Cancel button in the top right corner. Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and returned to the Photo screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the new language, French, announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting the OCR language before applying the next button improves the recognition of words with accented characters -- otherwise I may get a 6 for an e with acute accent, and other such examples. Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the Settings menu as outlined earlier. It is very helpful to use the $0.99 Light Detector app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of the optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use Prizmo. (You can hear when the Light Detector signal is loudest if you move the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to the page. This only gives a rough sense of where to position the phone when you use Prizmo, but if you can't hear any difference in signal with Light Detector when you move the phone around over the page, chances are that either the background light level is too low to take a good image, or you're blocking the light source with part of your body. You should also use a headset connected to the headphone jack, since as soon as the
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hi Lew, The Light Detector app is $0.99, and works just fine for an iPhone 3GS, * Light Detector ($0.99) by Everyware Technologies: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/light-detector/id420929143?mt=8 Here's the link to their support page: http://www.everywaretechnologies.com/apps/lightdetector As I mentioned earlier in my reply to Paul, David Woodbridge did a podcast about using Light Detector to check whether lights are on, whether blinds need to be pulled, etc. You can download it from his podbean feed: feed://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/feed/ Look for Using Light Detector app with VoiceOver on the iPhone. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: ah. sorry got my wires crossed on this lol. when this app was mentioned earlier regarding light sensing, I thought this was just a light scanner to tell a blind user what level of light is in a room or being given by a bulb or anything like that, oops lew On 19 Mar 2012, at 20:27, Esther wrote: Hi Lew, The iPad 2 camera is too low resolution to give good results with Prizmo, at least for visually impaired users. You can also tell this is the case by trying to run Prizmo on a screen captured image -- where there is no shake in taking a picture -- and comparing the results on an iPhone and an iPad. Now, the resolution used for screen capture doesn't have to be the same as what's used for the camera, but it's possible to tell that the same screens that I can OCR with the iPhone 4 start to mistake letters on the iPad 2 screen captures. For example, you can check this if you capture a screen of text from iBooks. While a few people have gotten results using Prizmo on the iPhone 3GS, reportedly the camera on this isn't really good enough for regular use by visually impaired individuals. When Prizmo was first being intensely discussed on the viphone list, with a lot of suggestions by Sandy Tomkins of practical ways to improve results, Rose Morales was able to get a near-perfect OCR of a book page on her iPhone 3GS at the first try. That's very unusual, and it was enough to make some people, like Geoff Waaler, purchase the app. He was able to use it to get some results on the iPhone 3GS, but really the place where he's now using Prizmo is his iPhone 4S. I'd say that you'd really want an iPhone 4 or 4S to use Prizmo. The new iPad camera is supposed to be as good as the camera on the iPhone 4, so that might also be a possibility. Here's the App Store link: • Prizmo ($9.99) by Creaceed: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8 HTH. By the way, there's also a Mac version of Prizmo which uses the camera on your computer. I don't recommend that application for visually impaired users, despite the success of their iOS app. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hi Jenny, In practice the Prizmo program is not complicated to use. The actual sequence of gestures are: 1) Open the app and flick right to Text, which is the first listed source type, and double tap 2) On the next page, flick right to the Camera button and double tap 3) If you want to use the new iOS 5 feature of taking a picture by pressing the volume up button, you don't need to do any set up, and when you're on the Camera screen you only need to center the iPhone's camera on the page -- which means putting the top right corner in the center -- and lift the iPhone about seven inches from the page, listening for when you hear autofocused. If you don't turn on the speech control, you'll hear everything at normal volume. 4) When you've lifted the iPhone to a height around 7 inches above a standard letter sheet, press the volume up button on the side, taking care to hold the iPhone as steady as possible while you hear the shutter click. This is the stage at which using the speech control can improve results, because in most instances tapping buttons on the screen introduces a slight motion and blurring when the picture is taken. It's a bit easier to do this without motion shake using the volume control to take a picture under iOS 5. The other way to do this and minimize motion shake without using speech control by saying Take Picture is to put one finger on the Take Picture button just above the Home button on the Camera screen just before you lift the iPhone. Try to hold things steady when you've lifted the phone to seven inches, and gently tap another finger on the screen to activate this button with a split tap gesture. 5) Flick to the Use button or just touch it in the bottom right corner of the screen and double tap. This is also the last element on the screen, so you can alternatively use a four finger tap on the bottom of the screen to navigate to this button. 6) Flick to the Next button (top right corner) and double tap 7) Wait for the Processing message to finish, and for Edit screen to be announced. You can read the OCR results from this screen. If you want to edit to make corrections, double tap in the text area and make changes. Double tap the Done button at the top right corner, which will turn in to a Next button. Then double tap the Next button (top right corner). 8) At the bottom of the Text screen are option buttons to Copy or Mail among other things. Flick to the one you want and double tap. I usually don't bother to save the results within the Prizmo app, but you can do so by double tapping the Save button at the top right corner. Notice that most of the length in these instructions involve explanations of different options (in step 4) and what other buttons do. Prizmo actually gives full instructions at their web site, but they're visually oriented. My original description that Anne quoted is long, because it also explains control options like how to set up OCR for different languages. For English, all you have to do after taking the picture and double tapping Use is to keep double tapping the Next button in the top right corner until you want to mail or copy the results. Also, you don't have to use the Light Detector app. I just take it out and pan across the page to check the volume level before I use Prizmo. That's it. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: That sounds way too complicated for me. Is there an easier program? Also is there a bar code reader ap and what info does it tell you? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in place, double
how to remove Istat Pro or other unwanted wigits
Okay. I took a look at Istat pro; and, it looks okay, but, when I clicked on the prefs immage link, I could not get out of the window to save my life. I had to force finder to quit and relaunch. So, how can I get rid of this wigit in an accessible way? There doesn't seem to be any way to do this. The instructions I found on the internet were not at all helpful. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Jenny it doesn't sound complicated if you persist with it. Christopher H On 19/03/2012 20:55, Jenny Keller wrote: That sounds way too complicated for me. Is there an easier program? Also is there a bar code reader ap and what info does it tell you? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Anne Robertsona...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in place, double tap the Settings, back button in the top left corner to return to the Settings screen, then double tap the Done button in the top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen. The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, followed by a Documents button at the bottom of the screen that are results you want to store in the app. In general, you will choose to double tap Text (the first listed entry). The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the bottom of the the next (Photo) screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image using the Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken outside the app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before OCR -- generally requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to only include the part of the image that contains text or correct for distorted pictures because you didn't hold the iPhone flat), and (3) OCR (perform the OCR with an option to choose the language to improve the OCR), then display the results for editing, copying, etc. or saving in the app's stored Documents. You can navigate through the app without ever using these buttons, just by double tapping the Next button in the top right corner of the screen to move through each stage, and that's probably the easiest way to use the app when you get started, especially if you only work with documents in English. However, if you want to OCR a document in a different language, you can improve your results by double tapping the OCR button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the screen) and then flicking left to the language button (e.g., English) in the row of option buttons for that screen, and double tapping. You'll be able to double tap another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that you will not hear selected announced beside the currently selected language in the list, but you can only exit the Language menu by either double tapping a new language selection or by double tapping the Cancel button in the top right corner. Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and returned to the Photo screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the new language, French, announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting the OCR language before applying the next button improves the recognition of words with accented characters -- otherwise I may ge t a 6 for an e with acute accent, and other such examples. Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the Settings menu as outlined earlier. It is very helpful to use the $0.99 Light Detector app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of the optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use Prizmo. (You can hear when the Light Detector signal is loudest if you move the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to the page. This only gives a rough sense of where to position the phone when you use Prizmo, but if you can't hear any difference in signal with Light Detector when you move the phone around over the page, chances are that either the background light level is too low to take a good image, or you're blocking the light source with part of your body. You should also use a headset connected to the headphone jack, since as
figured out how to remove Istat Pro wigit from machine please disregard
Hi Subject line says all. thanks anyhow. 1. Open Dashboard. 2. Press VO+F2 twice quickly to access Wigit menus. 3. There's a Wigit menu near the bottom. Click on it. 4. Now, a list of Wigits is presented. Vo+right to the wigit desired and if it's deletable, you will see the button for this. Press it. 5. Restart machine. 6. Now, in ~/Library/Preferences, delete all Wigit files. Right at the bottom. 7. Empty trash. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to remove Istat Pro or other unwanted wigits
If it's a widget you installed, the easiest thing is to go to your user library using the go to folder option in Finder and then navigate to the Widgets folder. YOu just delete the widget from that folder and it should do the trick. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. I took a look at Istat pro; and, it looks okay, but, when I clicked on the prefs immage link, I could not get out of the window to save my life. I had to force finder to quit and relaunch. So, how can I get rid of this wigit in an accessible way? There doesn't seem to be any way to do this. The instructions I found on the internet were not at all helpful. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iPhone sounds.
Hi. If anyone has the factory installed sounds for the iPhone, Like the sounds for when messages come in and the alarm and alert sounds and also the ring tones, and any other sounds, Then can you please send them to me off list at jessicabrown...@gmail.com. Any generation of iPhone is ok. I do not have an iPhone, But my friends do and I have heard there iPhones and I like the way they sound. It may seem weird, But I would like to have them to listen to. If the sound files are not in the proper format then that is ok. I can use an online service to convert them to the format they need to be in. Thank you. sent from my BrailleNote -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Budgetting programs
Here you go. You can definitely try the program. Their tech support is awesome. http://www.splasm.com/checkbookpro/ On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Sari. Where can I get this program? I would like to evaluate it. On Mar 18, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Checkbook is what you want. I use it to budget multiple accounts, and it does the math for you. On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: Hi, Thanks for that. But a spreadsheet program doesn't do it for me. I require the program to be able to set up categories or buckets. Then when I import the data, it automatically adds the transferred to the relevant category. Then I can see at a glance what category is spending what. From this you can create your budget and plan. I have looked at the following and finding a range of issues: Savings Budget MoneyWell Ibank All of the above have some problem in relation to accessibility. Quickin is the only app I haven't used and wish to know if it has any accessibility issues. Sean On 19/03/2012, at 4:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Sean. It may not be what you are looking for, but I put my banking information, both for my business and home on to Numbers. I just made the columns I needed, and it seems to be working just fine. If you're interested in printing checks, which I'm not, then I guess it won't work. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: Hi All. I am seeking for a Budget program on the Mac. I have looked at IBank and the table of transactions were not accessible. I have looked at savings and you cannot edit transactions while everything else seems to be accessible. I am ware of Envelopes Cash management web site. But I don't like the idea of my finances being located on someone else's equipment. It is out of my control which makes me very uncomfortable. Any ideas? Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Questions about Prismo
Thanks. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Jenny, In practice the Prizmo program is not complicated to use. The actual sequence of gestures are: 1) Open the app and flick right to Text, which is the first listed source type, and double tap 2) On the next page, flick right to the Camera button and double tap 3) If you want to use the new iOS 5 feature of taking a picture by pressing the volume up button, you don't need to do any set up, and when you're on the Camera screen you only need to center the iPhone's camera on the page -- which means putting the top right corner in the center -- and lift the iPhone about seven inches from the page, listening for when you hear autofocused. If you don't turn on the speech control, you'll hear everything at normal volume. 4) When you've lifted the iPhone to a height around 7 inches above a standard letter sheet, press the volume up button on the side, taking care to hold the iPhone as steady as possible while you hear the shutter click. This is the stage at which using the speech control can improve results, because in most instances tapping buttons on the screen introduces a slight motion and blurring when the picture is taken. It's a bit easier to do this without motion shake using the volume control to take a picture under iOS 5. The other way to do this and minimize motion shake without using speech control by saying Take Picture is to put one finger on the Take Picture button just above the Home button on the Camera screen just before you lift the iPhone. Try to hold things steady when you've lifted the phone to seven inches, and gently tap another finger on the screen to activate this button with a split tap gesture. 5) Flick to the Use button or just touch it in the bottom right corner of the screen and double tap. This is also the last element on the screen, so you can alternatively use a four finger tap on the bottom of the screen to navigate to this button. 6) Flick to the Next button (top right corner) and double tap 7) Wait for the Processing message to finish, and for Edit screen to be announced. You can read the OCR results from this screen. If you want to edit to make corrections, double tap in the text area and make changes. Double tap the Done button at the top right corner, which will turn in to a Next button. Then double tap the Next button (top right corner). 8) At the bottom of the Text screen are option buttons to Copy or Mail among other things. Flick to the one you want and double tap. I usually don't bother to save the results within the Prizmo app, but you can do so by double tapping the Save button at the top right corner. Notice that most of the length in these instructions involve explanations of different options (in step 4) and what other buttons do. Prizmo actually gives full instructions at their web site, but they're visually oriented. My original description that Anne quoted is long, because it also explains control options like how to set up OCR for different languages. For English, all you have to do after taking the picture and double tapping Use is to keep double tapping the Next button in the top right corner until you want to mail or copy the results. Also, you don't have to use the Light Detector app. I just take it out and pan across the page to check the volume level before I use Prizmo. That's it. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: That sounds way too complicated for me. Is there an easier program? Also is there a bar code reader ap and what info does it tell you? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is
Re: Questions about Prismo
Hi Jenny. I found the Look Tell Recognizer to be the easiest bar code app for me. It doesn't seem to be as much of a pain as the other one I had which you had to b sighted or lucky to use. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: That sounds way too complicated for me. Is there an easier program? Also is there a bar code reader ap and what info does it tell you? Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Mar 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Paul, The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and it plays a tone which rises with the light level. Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago. Cheers, Anne One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture. You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading and double tap. On the General Settings screen, flick right past the Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then set the Speech Control to Switch button, on. I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it is several months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in place, double tap the Settings, back button in the top left corner to return to the Settings screen, then double tap the Done button in the top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen. The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, followed by a Documents button at the bottom of the screen that are results you want to store in the app. In general, you will choose to double tap Text (the first listed entry). The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the bottom of the the next (Photo) screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image using the Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken outside the app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before OCR -- generally requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to only include the part of the image that contains text or correct for distorted pictures because you didn't hold the iPhone flat), and (3) OCR (perform the OCR with an option to choose the language to improve the OCR), then display the results for editing, copying, etc. or saving in the app's stored Documents. You can navigate through the app without ever using these buttons, just by double tapping the Next button in the top right corner of the screen to move through each stage, and that's probably the easiest way to use the app when you get started, especially if you only work with documents in English. However, if you want to OCR a document in a different language, you can improve your results by double tapping the OCR button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the screen) and then flicking left to the language button (e.g., English) in the row of option buttons for that screen, and double tapping. You'll be able to double tap another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that you will not hear selected announced beside the currently selected language in the list, but you can only exit the Language menu by either double tapping a new language selection or by double tapping the Cancel button in the top right corner. Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and returned to the Photo screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the new language, French, announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting the OCR language before applying the next button improves the recognition of words with accented characters -- otherwise I may get a 6 for an e with acute accent, and other such examples. Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the Settings menu as outlined earlier. It is very helpful to use the $0.99 Light Detector app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of the optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use Prizmo. (You can hear when the Light Detector signal is loudest if you move the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to the page. This only gives a rough sense of where to position the phone when you use Prizmo, but if you can't hear any difference in
Re: looking for a good temperature monitoring app
Hi, go to www.versiontracker.com and search for Temperature Monitor. Should be the first one in the list. It's free and everything you need to get the temperature of is accessible. There's probably some graphics that aren't visible but that's no consequence to you reading all the necessary temperatures of the sensors. Later... On 2012-03-19, at 6:56 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi, subject line says it all. anybody know of a good accessible app for monitoring GPU temperature and so on? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something I just Learned With Skype and Growl
Aashish, that goes for me as well. This list is about sharing people's experiences or expertees with their Macs. If you don't like what we're talking about, I suggest that you use the unsubscribe link at the end of these emails. This list is about freedom of speech and you had no right to say what you said to Elena and I. Have a good night or day or whatever it is over there. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
