Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Cara Quinn]

Hey Chris,

No hard feelings taken. This thread is not a competition between ProTools and 
Logic. :)

Anders said his budget didn’t allow for ProTools just now so recommending Logic 
is a good thing.

This is not a judgement on my part of which piece of software is better. to me, 
they both have their strengths and weaknesses. I like both for different things.

For someone who just wants a good DAW for making their own music and coming out 
with a good sounding professional product then Logic is an inexpensive and in 
my opinion, an extremely good choice. That’s all. With what you get with Logic 
for the nice price, it is fabulous.

So there you go. :) -Just my thoughts…

This thread is about accessible music software on the Mac so right now, our 
highest quality choices are Logic and ProTools.

To me, which ever app people use to make great music for themselves or for 
work, is all good in my book. :)

Cheers!

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On May 23, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Let me make it very very clear on something, as I do not wish to give false 
information.  I'm probably not the one you want to be talking to when it comes 
to Logic, as honestly, I have to say I'm more on the side of the fence with 
Anders than with Cara, with all due respect.  No hard feelings are intended 
against Cara, so make that very very clear.  If Logic works for her, and for 
others, then great, but in a setting where I'm being paid on an hourly basis, 
or sometimes only have X amount of time booked in a studio which I take my 
Logic rig into, I don't have time to sit here and do work-arounds.  I need to 
produce no-nonsense music/production and get it done in a timely manor.  I 
agree that there are lots of work arounds, but that's just it.  they're work 
arounds.  I need something more rock-solid.

I love the samples that come with Logic, no doubt, but at this time, I'm sorry 
to say, it cannot be my DAW of choice primarily.
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- Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX


Hi Anders,

I’m not sure what you mean by saying that Logic is not being furthered in 
accessibility. While there are still issues with it, it is absolutely usable 
and all of its instruments are accessible now with Voiceover.

When I say usable, it is absolutely possible to create a project, mix and 
master it in Logic and do so efficiently and accessibly as Logic stands now.

the accessibility issues I see really depend on what you may wish to do with 
your project. If you need to convert a drummer track into standard midi for 
example, so you can have specific midi control over an individual drum sound in 
a preset auto-drummer kit, then you may run into an accessibility issue, 
however, there is a work-around. so even something as specific as this, which 
the average customer may not need, is actually doable.

So if you have not taken a look at Logic lately, you may wish to revisit it.

You may be impressed at how accessible it actually is at this point.

There are some very good Logic resources on the web, including the 
http://www.blindlogic.org site and the Logic Accessibility email list and I 
believe that our own Chris Gilland has also done some tutorials for Logic as 
well.

Hope this helps and please do have a lovely day!

Cheers!

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On May 22, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
One thing that annoys me is that logic isn’t getting further beeing accessible.
Of course i could get reaper but what i want is logic with all its instruments 
and such.
This might sound very strange for you guys who seem able to afford such tools 
as protools.
But i don’t want to spend all my income per month on a musical creation tool.
I just can’t.
Sure if i had money i’d buy that but i have to face reallity.
/A
> On 20 May 2016, at 14:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I'll be really honest with you.  You know what I use hardware wise as far as 
> an interface?  I just use a little 4 channel Alesis Multi-Mix 4.  Aside from 
> it having USB interface, the whole rest of the thing is totally analog.  It's 
> absolutely beautiful!  And, they're dirt cheap, too!  Plus, as far as 
> accessibility with the mac, just to keep this on topic, there's nothing to be 
> accessible about it!  

Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Mary Otten]

There is also the website mac for the blind which has tutorials, and the 
website owner does training.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris. That's awesome you're getting a Mac. Chris G isn't the only one 
> that does training. I offer training as well. I don't have stuff on Youtube 
> but my offer is there too.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
>> Cheers,
>> Cris
>>  
>> From: 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>  
>> My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
>> Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, 
>> if it be needed.
>>  
>> My Youtube channel can be found at:
>>  
>> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com
>>  
>> The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
>> would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, 
>> it will open all the formats that you menhtion.
>> ---
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>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Cris Ali
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
>>> Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>>  
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
>>> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
>>> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
>>> 
>>> I have a number of questions however:
>>> 
>>> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
>>> switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  
>>> If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual 
>>> users of OSX deal with this issue?
>>> 
>>> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
>>> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
>>> 
>>> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
>>> myself for the time when I get my computer?
>>> 
>>> Your help will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
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Re: battery status on macbook pro

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Also, I have a script I can give you once you get your Mac. It lets you check 
the battery status with a single hotkey command.

Shawn
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> On May 23, 2016, at 8:41 PM, don bishop  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> My macbook pro is supposed to arrive tomorrow. One of the first things I 
>> want to do after setup is check the battery status.  Is there an easy way to 
>> do that?  
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Don  
>> 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Chris. That's awesome you're getting a Mac. Chris G isn't the only one that 
does training. I offer training as well. I don't have stuff on Youtube but my 
offer is there too.

Shawn
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> On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
> Cheers,
> Cris
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
> Gilland
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>  
> My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
> Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, 
> if it be needed.
>  
> My Youtube channel can be found at:
>  
> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com 
>  
> The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
> would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, 
> it will open all the formats that you menhtion.
> ---
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> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com 
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Cris Ali 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
>> Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
>> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
>> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
>> 
>> I have a number of questions however:
>> 
>> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
>> switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  
>> If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual 
>> users of OSX deal with this issue?
>> 
>> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
>> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
>> 
>> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
>> myself for the time when I get my computer?
>> 
>> Your help will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Cris
>> 
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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Cara,

They do have an audio unit version.  I was only stating that you couldn't 
mixmatch the presets from PT into Logic.


In other words, separate presets would have to be made to get things working 
in Logic, as the Audio unit plug, just like the version in ProTools, isn't 
accessible straight out of the box.


The only problem is, there are no demos for Ivory.  The only way to get them 
is to buy it outright, which I think is a bit annoying, but, oh well.


You say you have some pianos that sound really good.  Aside the ones which 
come stock with Logic, what else are you using?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Cara Quinn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for 
OSX



Hi Chris,

I hadn’t looked at the Ivory instruments that deeply since I was not 
interested in them. Yes, I am familiar with the different formats.


Thanks for letting me know though. I was thinking they had an audio unit 
version as well. Thanks for saving me the research. :) -And BTW, as others 
have said, thanks for your work with Synthogy to get the presets into a 
usable format for PT users.


Have a great evening!

Cheers!

Cara
On May 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


There are no demos as far as I know.  Further, the issue is, the plugins are 
not accessible out of the box, hince why custom presets have to be made. The 
problem is, there is no way to take custom made exported presets from 
ProTools, and load them up in logic.  They are two completely different 
formats, and work totally differently.  Plus, the plugins wouldn't work 
cross platform with the presets, even if you could! export the presets, as 
ProTools uses the AAX I think they're called, where as Logic uses Audio 
units, so totally different.  It would be kind of like trying to take an old 
RTas plug from PT back in the days, and load it up in Cakewalk/Sonar/Reaper. 
It's just not gonna happen.

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- Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for 
OSX



Hi Chris,

I do not know, as I do not have the Ivory plugins but I can certainly try 
them if there are demos.


I looked at them on the Synthogy site after I saw your posting on PTAccess 
but since I already have several pianos I really like the sound of, I did 
not purchase them.


I’ll see if there is a demo of some sort and try them in Logic.

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On May 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already, 
for Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.


Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's 
where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely would be nice 
to have them in both.

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- Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for 
OSX



Hi Scott,

I think this thread is fine. It is Mac-centric as it were, after all. :)

Just to add a bit at what Chris has been saying; Yes, both ProTools and 
Logic Pro X are really the best options on Mac at this point.


I own both and also use both with outboard control surfaces / keyboards as 
well as external sound modules etc.


I feel that ProTools is definitely more intuitive out of the box but having 
said that, certain things are way easier to do with Logic and others are way 
easier with ProTools.


So as long as you can afford ProTools I would also suggest that you get 
Logic as well or at least try it out so you can judge for yourself.


One difference I have noticed between PT and Logic is that several plugins 
seem to be more accessible in Logic than in PT. This does not mean they are 
not usable to some degree in PT but they can be quite a bit more so in 
Logic.


One example is the M-Tron Pro plugin from G-Force software, which is an 
amazingly comprehensive Mellotron (and other trons) sampler plugin.


In Logic all of the editing controls are available with Voiceover whereas in 
PT 11 at least, these are not.


Hope 

Re: Saving to Suvfolders

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If you press cmd-2 while in the Save dialog, your dialog will be set to List 
mode.  When in List mode, you can interact with the table then press 
VO-shift-back slash to expand the desired folder.  If that is the sub-folder 
you wish the file in, either press return or stop interacting with the table 
and navigate to the Save button to press it.  If you wish to go deeper into a 
sub-folder of the sub-folder, just repeat the expanding action until you get to 
the sub-folder you wish to have the file saved inside and do as I outlined.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2016, at 19:15, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

Grant and John

Thank you for all the tips about selecting subfolders. I must be missing 
something. I use VO Spacebar to select the folder and I can not get into the 
list of subfolders unless I move the mouse and rright click. I have a screen 
shot if you wish.

Angus MacKinnon

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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

PDFPenPro works well for filling out forms.  The limitation though would be on 
whether the pdf creator spent any time labelling the form fields.  If they are 
not labelled, it is rather difficult to determine what data to enter into which 
field.  Not always can you even use tab order if the pdf creator didn't set 
those up properly either.  All that said, a properly labelled and tagged pdf 
form is a dream to dill out in PDFPenPro.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2016, at 17:48, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:


Forget about Adobe it's a joke to say the least.

As Tim has stated PDF Pen Pro is quite good for more complex things.

Haven't got it yet but it's on my app list.

On 24/05/2016 8:55 AM, Percy Garrett wrote:
> Hi, how do you fill out pdf forms? Should I download Adobe or some other app 
> or software? Thanks!
> Percy Garrett
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:48 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: State of PDF accessibility?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
> PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
> technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
> great experience reading them on Windows.
> 
> Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.
> 

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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Chris,

I hadn’t looked at the Ivory instruments that deeply since I was not interested 
in them. Yes, I am familiar with the different formats.

Thanks for letting me know though. I was thinking they had an audio unit 
version as well. Thanks for saving me the research. :) -And BTW, as others have 
said, thanks for your work with Synthogy to get the presets into a usable 
format for PT users.

Have a great evening!

Cheers!

Cara
On May 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

There are no demos as far as I know.  Further, the issue is, the plugins are 
not accessible out of the box, hince why custom presets have to be made. The 
problem is, there is no way to take custom made exported presets from ProTools, 
and load them up in logic.  They are two completely different formats, and work 
totally differently.  Plus, the plugins wouldn't work cross platform with the 
presets, even if you could! export the presets, as ProTools uses the AAX I 
think they're called, where as Logic uses Audio units, so totally different.  
It would be kind of like trying to take an old RTas plug from PT back in the 
days, and load it up in Cakewalk/Sonar/Reaper. It's just not gonna happen.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX


Hi Chris,

I do not know, as I do not have the Ivory plugins but I can certainly try them 
if there are demos.

I looked at them on the Synthogy site after I saw your posting on PTAccess but 
since I already have several pianos I really like the sound of, I did not 
purchase them.

I’ll see if there is a demo of some sort and try them in Logic.

Cheers!

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On May 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already, for 
Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.

Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's 
where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely would be nice to 
have them in both.
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Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX


Hi Scott,

I think this thread is fine. It is Mac-centric as it were, after all. :)

Just to add a bit at what Chris has been saying; Yes, both ProTools and Logic 
Pro X are really the best options on Mac at this point.

I own both and also use both with outboard control surfaces / keyboards as well 
as external sound modules etc.

I feel that ProTools is definitely more intuitive out of the box but having 
said that, certain things are way easier to do with Logic and others are way 
easier with ProTools.

So as long as you can afford ProTools I would also suggest that you get Logic 
as well or at least try it out so you can judge for yourself.

One difference I have noticed between PT and Logic is that several plugins seem 
to be more accessible in Logic than in PT. This does not mean they are not 
usable to some degree in PT but they can be quite a bit more so in Logic.

One example is the M-Tron Pro plugin from G-Force software, which is an 
amazingly comprehensive Mellotron (and other trons) sampler plugin.

In Logic all of the editing controls are available with Voiceover whereas in PT 
11 at least, these are not.

Hope this helps a bit and do have a great weekend!

Cheers!

Cara
On May 20, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Hi Chris, I hope Mark will give us some latitude here but of course if he or 
the other mods wish I’d kill the thread no problem.

That said, I’ve found your comments very very helpful.

The last recording system I personally owned was an Alesis ADAT with a 
Behringer DDX3216 digital mixer.  Had analog controls but the busses and audio 
path were all 24 bit 100 KHZ digital.  For $900 it sounded really warm and nice 
and with the extra add on board I had installed I could do full 5.1 mixes.  
That being said it was hard to use being blind do to the menus.  The control 
surfaces were very good with real faders and pots but to work with the 
automation or some of your time sync stuff it involved working with an 8 line 
LCD display. So the more i can do in software on the mac that’s accessible the 
better and from 

Re: Bluetooth headset

[Stacey Robinson]

I also have the LG TonePro and don’t like it at all.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On May 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I got an LG tone, and love it.  It fits behind your head, kind of like a 
> necklace and has ear tips that are magnetic, which can sometimes be a pain in 
> the neck to get to stay in there, but otherwise, has great sound and talks 
> when you turn it on and lets you know your battery status.
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> The Plantronics Backbeat is a good way to go for stereo headset.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good 
>>> stareo sound?
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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RE: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

This is an excellent question and one that I posted a while back, perhaps on a 
different list.

Anyway, the volume button, on my Apple TV, only adjust my television's volume.  

Now when I first got my Apple TV, somehow, some way, I swear I was able to 
adjust the unit's internal volume but only once or twice.  However, for 
whatever reason, I can now only adjust the television volume, nothing more.

Mark

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Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

Hi all,

I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust the 
television volume?  If so, how?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: simple video editor

[Ray Foret jr]

Was wondering what you used to put that together.  The people who make Total 
video Converter have just improved their product to what they say is Voice OVer 
support but it seems minimal at best.  Still, it’s doable.

Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On May 23, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
> well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
> Youtube.
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> To: 
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> Subject: Re: simple video editor
> 
> 
> Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time I 
> tried it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
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> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
>> with that app.
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>> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
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>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
>> Subject: simple video editor
>> 
>> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
>> which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
>> press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
>> set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
>> remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Reorder playlists in iTunes

[Bill Dengler]

Just had to do this the other day!
You have two options:
You can either route mouse to VO (VO+CMD+f5), do a mouse down (VO+CMD+space), 
use VO commands to move where you want to insert the track, and then press 
VO+CMD+space again. This will move the track one position above the place you 
moved to.
Or, use the clipboard (copy/paste commands), but this will duplicate the track 
(so you’ll need to remove the other copy). Cut doesn’t seem to work, but move 
(CMD+option+v, like in Finder) might work, haven’t tried it.
There may be more efficient ways of doing this, but that’s what I’ve figured 
out so far.

Bill
> On May 23, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anybody know how best to reorder tracks in a playlist in iTunes? Not 
> sure if there are keyboard commands to move tracks up or down, but VO’s drag 
> and drop features do not appear to work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Grant
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Adding to iTunes

[Angus MacKinnon]

>> In iTunes 12.4.0.1189 I am trying to add the artist “Jimi Hendrix”, Alblum 
>> "WestCoastSeattleBoy-TheJimiHendrixAnthology[4CD-DVD]Disc_1” and song "01 - 
>> The Isley Brothers & Jimi Hendrix - Testify (Parts 1 & 2).mp3”. No matter 
>> what I do, "01 - The Isley Brothers & Jimi Hendrix - Testify (Parts 1 & 
>> 2).mp3” appears in the "Isley Brothers & Jimi Hendrix” folder “ and not in 
>> the “Jimi Hendrix folder. How do I get ”01 - The Isley Brothers & Jimi 
>> Hendrix - Testify (Parts 1 & 2).mp3” appear in the “Jimi Hendrix” folder? 
>> Thank you.

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Re: battery status on macbook pro

[don bishop]

got it! Thanks 


- Original Message -
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: battery status on macbook pro

>
>
> VO plus m twice to reach the menu extras then VO right until you 
> find the battery.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/23/2016 6:41 PM, don bishop wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> My macbook pro is supposed to arrive tomorrow. One of the first things I 
> >> want to do after setup is check the battery status.  Is there an easy way 
> >> to do that?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Don
> >>
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Re: Fw: battery status on macbook pro

[E.T.]

   VO plus m twice to reach the menu extras then VO right until you 
find the battery.


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On 5/23/2016 6:41 PM, don bishop wrote:





My macbook pro is supposed to arrive tomorrow. One of the first things I want 
to do after setup is check the battery status.  Is there an easy way to do that?

Thanks,
Don





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Fw: battery status on macbook pro

[don bishop]

>
> My macbook pro is supposed to arrive tomorrow. One of the first things I want 
> to do after setup is check the battery status.  Is there an easy way to do 
> that?  
> 
> Thanks, 
> Don  
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Re: simple video editor

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Don't get me wrong.  Screenflow isn't exactly cheap at $100, but it's darn 
well worth it!  It's what I use to make all my training videos I put on 
Youtube.

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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: simple video editor


Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time 
I tried it.



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On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
with that app.

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- Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
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Subject: simple video editor


Okay,

Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.


Thanks.


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RE: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Cris Ali]

Ah Thanks Devin,, That is cool.  It would solve a problem for me then, In that 
case I would be able to know that Arabic words are present and I would switch 
voices.

 

Cheers,

Cris

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On Behalf Of Devin Prater
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

If you use the Alex, or other MacinTalk voices, like Fred or Bruce, I’m sure it 
will read the Arabic letters. It will say “Arabic letter” then the letter name. 
This can be very slow, and is very noticeable when people use non-Latin 
characters in their mail names.

Sent from my Mac.

 

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On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali  > wrote:

 

Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.

Cheers,

Cris

 

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Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, if 
it be needed.

 

My Youtube channel can be found at:

 

  http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

 

The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, it 
will open all the formats that you menhtion.

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

Hello folks,

I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 mhz 
quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  The 
description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

I have a number of questions however:

First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching?  
I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice over 
does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX deal 
with this issue?

Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably something 
that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare myself 
for the time when I get my computer?

Your help will be appreciated.

Regards,

Cris

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Re: simple video editor

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Gonna have to take a look.  I seem to recall it was rahter slow at the time I 
tried it.


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> On May 23, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work with 
> that app.
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> - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret jr" 
> To: "Mac Visionaries List" 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
> Subject: simple video editor
> 
> 
> Okay,
> 
> Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
> which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
> press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
> set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody remind 
> me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: Bluetooth headset

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I'm not sure.  I'd think so, but don't quote me on that.  I know that 
they're still in a selected market.  If not, then I know beyond a doubt the 
Bluez 2S definitely! would be.


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I was wondering if the AfterShokz Trekz Titanium available in Canada? i see 
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Re: Bluetooth headset

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I was wondering if the AfterShokz Trekz Titanium available in Canada? i see 
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Re: Saving to Suvfolders

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Grant and John

Thank you for all the tips about selecting subfolders. I must be missing 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Devin is correct.  I've seen this many times.  It would say things like, well.

Instead of saying Allah, it may say alif lam lam heh, but, yes.  Now, things 
that aren't exactly letters, like say the hamza etc, I'm not sure how that 
would work.  Maybe it would just tell you letter which stands tall?  LOL!  just 
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  Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie


  If you use the Alex, or other MacinTalk voices, like Fred or Bruce, I’m sure 
it will read the Arabic letters. It will say “Arabic letter” then the letter 
name. This can be very slow, and is very noticeable when people use non-Latin 
characters in their mail names.

  Sent from my Mac.


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Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
Cheers,
Cris

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
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Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, if 
it be needed.

My Youtube channel can be found at:

http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, it 
will open all the formats that you menhtion.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Cris Ali
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
  Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie

  Hello folks,

  I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 
2.5 mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

  I have a number of questions however:

  First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If 
voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of 
OSX deal with this issue?

  Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

  Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
myself for the time when I get my computer?

  Your help will be appreciated.

  Regards,

  Cris

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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

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A number of questions from a NubieThere isn't a super amount up there yet, but 
I plan to be doing a lot more over the next week or two.
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  Subject: RE: A number of questions from a Nubie


  Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.

  Cheers,

  Cris

   

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
  Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

   

  My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, if 
it be needed.

   

  My Youtube channel can be found at:

   

  http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

   

  The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, it 
will open all the formats that you menhtion.

  ---
  Christopher Gilland
  JAWS Certified, 2016.
  Training Instructor.

   

  clgillan...@gmail.com
  Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message - 

From: Cris Ali 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

Hello folks,

I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  The 
description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

I have a number of questions however:

First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If 
voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of 
OSX deal with this issue?

Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
myself for the time when I get my computer? 

Your help will be appreciated.

Regards,

Cris

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Re: simple video editor

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Could it a been Screenflow?  Those keystrokes you mention do indeed work 
with that app.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Foret jr" 

To: "Mac Visionaries List" 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:44 PM
Subject: simple video editor


Okay,

Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor 
which allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could 
press i for the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were 
set, you could cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody 
remind me what that little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.


Thanks.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Devin Prater]

If you use the Alex, or other MacinTalk voices, like Fred or Bruce, I’m sure it 
will read the Arabic letters. It will say “Arabic letter” then the letter name. 
This can be very slow, and is very noticeable when people use non-Latin 
characters in their mail names.
Sent from my Mac.

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> On May 23, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.
> Cheers,
> Cris
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>  
> My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
> Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, 
> if it be needed.
>  
> My Youtube channel can be found at:
>  
> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com 
>  
> The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
> would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, 
> it will open all the formats that you menhtion.
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Cris Ali 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM
>> Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
>> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
>> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
>> 
>> I have a number of questions however:
>> 
>> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and 
>> switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  
>> If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual 
>> users of OSX deal with this issue?
>> 
>> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
>> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
>> 
>> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
>> myself for the time when I get my computer?
>> 
>> Your help will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Cris
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RE: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Christopher> I will visit your youtube page.

Cheers,

Cris

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

My Youtube channel is a great place to learn about using the mac with 
Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do offer 1-on-1 training, if 
it be needed.

 

My Youtube channel can be found at:

 

http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

 

The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, it 
will open all the formats that you menhtion.

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- Original Message - 

From: Cris Ali   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:37 PM

Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

Hello folks,

I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 mhz 
quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  The 
description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

I have a number of questions however:

First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching?  
I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice over 
does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX deal 
with this issue?

Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably something 
that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare myself 
for the time when I get my computer? 

Your help will be appreciated.

Regards,

Cris

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RE: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Cris Ali]

Ah Mary,

I am glad you mentioned Arabic>  In fact Arabic is one of the languages I need. 
 The problem is that if I use the English voice It won’t try to spell out 
Arabic because it does not use the Latin alphabets>  May be the Arabic voice 
would try to pronounce the English words in a broken accent.  

That is why I use my iPhone very often.  The auto switching in the iOS is 
excellent.

Cheers,

Cris

 

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

Hi Chris,
Oh, you know seminar if you're into Russian when you have the English voice or 
vice versa. The Russian boys tries to pronounce English rather badly as you 
might imagine. And I think, if I remember correctly that the English voice 
starts to spell out the Russian as in Cyrillic P surly glitter are at Cetera, 
but I haven't used in a long time, because I prefer to use my iOS device for 
that service. I don't actually run into situations where I have really 
intermixed text we're the same line might have words in both languages. I don't 
have an accessible dictionary, for instance. And since my Arabic is so awful, 
having not used it in a long long time, I have not had the chance to try Arabic 
on the Mac. I assume that it would do the same as the Russian.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Cris Ali  > wrote:

Thanks Mary,

How do you handle situations when you have Russian and English words on the 
same page, or even in the same sentence?  If you are using the English voice it 
may not alert you to the Russian and if you are using the Russian you may not 
know there are English words.  I am surprised that apple made the Auto 
switching among languages available on iOS devices and not on their computers.

Cheers,

Cris

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

Hi Chris,
No, you don't get automatic language switching on the Mac. At least, it hasn't 
worked for me where it has worked for me on the iPhone between English and 
Russian. Open office is not accessible. With regard to the language switching, 
it's not too hard to switch languages, because there is a keystroke that let 
you move from one to another one. But it's not the same as the automatic 
switching that you can have on iOS. As for word processors, there is pages and 
there is Microsoft Word for Mac, which some people say works quite well. I have 
not used it, so I cannot comment.depending on how big of a Microsoft Word user 
you are, you may find that the Mac version isn't up to what you are used to. 
And then there is pages, which will have a learning curve, especially if you 
are into word with windows. There's also text at it, which is a lot simpler and 
has fewer features naturally. So it depends on your word processing needs.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Cris Ali  > wrote:

Hello folks,

I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 mhz 
quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  The 
description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

I have a number of questions however:

First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching?  
I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice over 
does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX deal 
with this issue?

Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably something 
that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare myself 
for the time when I get my computer? 

Your help will be appreciated.

Regards,

Cris

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Re: voiceover quits speaking

[E.T.]

   Not to worry, we have company. I am also plagued by unreliable 
Bluetooth connectivity for headsets.


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in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/23/2016 5:35 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

So it isn’t just me!

On May 23, 2016, at 4:10 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  I meant Command F5.

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On 5/23/2016 2:05 PM, E.T. wrote:

  No ideas except to keep using Command F6 until it gets fixed. Which I
had hoped was in the latest update.

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On 5/23/2016 1:53 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Hi:
I have a MBP 2010 running the latest version of el capitan. Voiceover
will stop speaking. I have to press command f5 to turn vo on and off.
Some times I have to force a shut down. Any ideas?
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simple video editor

[Ray Foret jr]

Okay,

Once, somebody on here posted something about a very simple video editor which 
allowed one to edit a video by using in and out markers.  One could press i for 
the in marker and o for the out marker.  Once the markers were set, you could 
cut, paste or delete what you had marked.  Can somebody remind me what that 
little editor was?  It wasn’t iMovie for sure.

Thanks.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Ray Foret jr]

Well, Chris, you were right about one thing.  For some people, (me for example) 
Pro Tools would be way way over kill.  After all, what am I going to do with 
all that sample and instrument stuff if all I want to do is take scratches out 
of records and hiss out of tape?  Answer, so far as I am concerned, is 
absolutely nothing.  I use a combination of Sound Forge Pro for Mac, Amadeus 
Pro and RX 2 plug ins for that stuff.  Is that combination perfect, no way.  
The two things I lack with that set up are as follows.

1.  The ability to vary pitch instead of abruptly adjusting it.

2.  The ability to extract the center of a stereo image and isolate it, or, the 
ability to remove the center of a stereo image and fully preserve the left and 
right sides of the stereo image as a true stereo image.  Sure, Audasity can do 
that:  but please man oh PLEASE, that’s crap because the stereo image gets 
destroied in the process and is not preserved.  The few plug ins I have found 
seem not to be accessible with Voice OVer at all.  IF you or anybody out there 
got any ideas, I await them.


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> On May 23, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> Let me make it very very clear on something, as I do not wish to give false 
> information.  I'm probably not the one you want to be talking to when it 
> comes to Logic, as honestly, I have to say I'm more on the side of the fence 
> with Anders than with Cara, with all due respect.  No hard feelings are 
> intended against Cara, so make that very very clear.  If Logic works for her, 
> and for others, then great, but in a setting where I'm being paid on an 
> hourly basis, or sometimes only have X amount of time booked in a studio 
> which I take my Logic rig into, I don't have time to sit here and do 
> work-arounds.  I need to produce no-nonsense music/production and get it done 
> in a timely manor.  I agree that there are lots of work arounds, but that's 
> just it.  they're work arounds.  I need something more rock-solid.
> 
> I love the samples that come with Logic, no doubt, but at this time, I'm 
> sorry to say, it cannot be my DAW of choice primarily.
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> To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX
> 
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> I’m not sure what you mean by saying that Logic is not being furthered in 
> accessibility. While there are still issues with it, it is absolutely usable 
> and all of its instruments are accessible now with Voiceover.
> 
> When I say usable, it is absolutely possible to create a project, mix and 
> master it in Logic and do so efficiently and accessibly as Logic stands now.
> 
> the accessibility issues I see really depend on what you may wish to do with 
> your project. If you need to convert a drummer track into standard midi for 
> example, so you can have specific midi control over an individual drum sound 
> in a preset auto-drummer kit, then you may run into an accessibility issue, 
> however, there is a work-around. so even something as specific as this, which 
> the average customer may not need, is actually doable.
> 
> So if you have not taken a look at Logic lately, you may wish to revisit it.
> 
> You may be impressed at how accessible it actually is at this point.
> 
> There are some very good Logic resources on the web, including the 
> http://www.blindlogic.org site and the Logic Accessibility email list and I 
> believe that our own Chris Gilland has also done some tutorials for Logic as 
> well.
> 
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> 
> Cheers!
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> On May 22, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> One thing that annoys me is that logic isn’t getting further beeing 
> accessible.
> Of course i could get reaper but what i want is logic with all its 
> instruments and such.
> This might sound very strange for you guys who seem able to afford such tools 
> as protools.
> But i don’t want to spend all my income per month on a musical creation tool.
> I just can’t.
> Sure if i had money i’d buy that but i have to face reallity.
> /A
>> On 20 May 2016, at 14:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I'll be really honest with you.  You know what I use 

Re: voiceover quits speaking

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

So it isn’t just me!
> On May 23, 2016, at 4:10 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I meant Command F5.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/23/2016 2:05 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>   No ideas except to keep using Command F6 until it gets fixed. Which I
>> had hoped was in the latest update.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 5/23/2016 1:53 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> I have a MBP 2010 running the latest version of el capitan. Voiceover
>>> will stop speaking. I have to press command f5 to turn vo on and off.
>>> Some times I have to force a shut down. Any ideas?
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hmm, I've looked almost everywhere I can think of within the settings and 
cannot find that option, so yeah.  I'd be very interested if you figure out 
how to do that, as I definitely have the remote both for my receiver as well 
as for my actual TV.

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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV


There's also a way to program the remote to send the correct infrared's to 
your TV to change volume I don't number directly where it is but it 
someplace in settings. You do need your old remote in order for this to 
work.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On May 23, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


That's a really funny thing.  I think some television/receivers support 
receiving the volume command and others don't.  There was a standard 
protocol over HDMI which was needed to make the volume button work as you 
describe, but I don't remember exactly what it was called.  If you Google, 
I'm sure you could find it out fairly easily though.  The odd thing is, my 
receiver, the Yamaha RXV477 isn't being made anymore, but it has the 
option to do it, but it's not enabled by default.  My point is, you might 
have to look in the menus on your TV or receiver to see if it's turned on, 
once you find out what that setting was called.  The hard thing is, I 
recall some companies calling it different  things.  Yamaha called it one 
thing, I think Sony another, etc.  there were only a few names for it. 
Like I said, I just can't for the life of me remember them.


You may have to get sighted help to go into the menus and make sure it's 
enabled though.  And yes, like I said, it's rare anymore these days, but I 
have seen systems that don't have the option needed.  I'd say most likely 
you probably do though, but you just need to turn it on.

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- Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV


Hi all,

I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to 
control Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of 
the TV any more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that 
button to adjust the television volume?  If so, how?

TIA,
Donna

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Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Awesome.  Like I said earlier.  I do offer 1-on-1 support/training as well, 
so if you think that's something you're going to need, then either you, or 
anyone else for that mind can write me to inquire more at:


i...@gillandmarketing.com
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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac



Thanks. I'll definitely check it out.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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Kimber,

You may want to have a look at my Youtube channel, as I did an extremely 
comprehensive walkthrough recently on ITunes, and how to navigate the 
music area.


You'll find the video on my channel, which is at:

http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

HTH.

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- Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" 


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Subject: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac



Hello All,

I'm new to the list and pretty much a novice to the Mac though I've
had an iPhone for the past four years.

I have an older MacAir running Lion which I want to use to stream
content from my iTunes library and Apple music. My problem is I'm
unable to locate the particular artist, album or playlist I want to
play. I have been able to get content to play, but it seems more by
luck than skill. Here's what happens.

I have my iTunes displayed by artist. But when I get into the -- I
guess it's the table? -- where the content is shown, all I see is how
many albums or songs I have by each artist but not the names of the
artists.

If someone could give me some basic steps for navigating around iTunes
and accessing my content I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Kimber

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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

A number of questions from a NubieMy Youtube channel is a great place to learn 
about using the mac with Voiceover.  Then, if you need anything further, I do 
offer 1-on-1 training, if it be needed.

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The last I looked at Open Office, it wasn't very accessible.  Your best bet 
would be to get Pages, which is made by Apple.  Totally accessible, and yes, it 
will open all the formats that you menhtion.
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  Subject: A number of questions from a Nubie


  Hello folks,

  I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  The 
description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

  I have a number of questions however:

  First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching? 
 I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice over 
does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX deal 
with this issue?

  Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

  Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
myself for the time when I get my computer? 

  Your help will be appreciated.

  Regards,

  Cris


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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Jessica Moss]

I got an LG tone, and love it.  It fits behind your head, kind of like a 
necklace and has ear tips that are magnetic, which can sometimes be a pain in 
the neck to get to stay in there, but otherwise, has great sound and talks when 
you turn it on and lets you know your battery status.

> On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> The Plantronics Backbeat is a good way to go for stereo headset.
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
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>> Hi:
>> Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good 
>> stareo sound?
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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Jonathan.  I've got my old remote, so I'll see what I can figure out.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 23, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> There's also a way to program the remote to send the correct infrared's to 
> your TV to change volume I don't number directly where it is but it someplace 
> in settings. You do need your old remote in order for this to work.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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>> 
>> That's a really funny thing.  I think some television/receivers support 
>> receiving the volume command and others don't.  There was a standard 
>> protocol over HDMI which was needed to make the volume button work as you 
>> describe, but I don't remember exactly what it was called.  If you Google, 
>> I'm sure you could find it out fairly easily though.  The odd thing is, my 
>> receiver, the Yamaha RXV477 isn't being made anymore, but it has the option 
>> to do it, but it's not enabled by default.  My point is, you might have to 
>> look in the menus on your TV or receiver to see if it's turned on, once you 
>> find out what that setting was called.  The hard thing is, I recall some 
>> companies calling it different  things.  Yamaha called it one thing, I think 
>> Sony another, etc.  there were only a few names for it.  Like I said, I just 
>> can't for the life of me remember them.
>> 
>> You may have to get sighted help to go into the menus and make sure it's 
>> enabled though.  And yes, like I said, it's rare anymore these days, but I 
>> have seen systems that don't have the option needed.  I'd say most likely 
>> you probably do though, but you just need to turn it on.
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>> - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
>> Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
>> more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
>> the television volume?  If so, how?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
Oh, you know seminar if you're into Russian when you have the English voice or 
vice versa. The Russian boys tries to pronounce English rather badly as you 
might imagine. And I think, if I remember correctly that the English voice 
starts to spell out the Russian as in Cyrillic P surly glitter are at Cetera, 
but I haven't used in a long time, because I prefer to use my iOS device for 
that service. I don't actually run into situations where I have really 
intermixed text we're the same line might have words in both languages. I don't 
have an accessible dictionary, for instance. And since my Arabic is so awful, 
having not used it in a long long time, I have not had the chance to try Arabic 
on the Mac. I assume that it would do the same as the Russian.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mary,
> How do you handle situations when you have Russian and English words on the 
> same page, or even in the same sentence?  If you are using the English voice 
> it may not alert you to the Russian and if you are using the Russian you may 
> not know there are English words.  I am surprised that apple made the Auto 
> switching among languages available on iOS devices and not on their computers.
> Cheers,
> Cris
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie
>  
> Hi Chris,
> No, you don't get automatic language switching on the Mac. At least, it 
> hasn't worked for me where it has worked for me on the iPhone between English 
> and Russian. Open office is not accessible. With regard to the language 
> switching, it's not too hard to switch languages, because there is a 
> keystroke that let you move from one to another one. But it's not the same as 
> the automatic switching that you can have on iOS. As for word processors, 
> there is pages and there is Microsoft Word for Mac, which some people say 
> works quite well. I have not used it, so I cannot comment.depending on how 
> big of a Microsoft Word user you are, you may find that the Mac version isn't 
> up to what you are used to. And then there is pages, which will have a 
> learning curve, especially if you are into word with windows. There's also 
> text at it, which is a lot simpler and has fewer features naturally. So it 
> depends on your word processing needs.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
> 
> I have a number of questions however:
> 
> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching? 
>  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice 
> over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX 
> deal with this issue?
> 
> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
> 
> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
> myself for the time when I get my computer?
> 
> Your help will be appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cris
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RE: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Mary,

How do you handle situations when you have Russian and English words on the 
same page, or even in the same sentence?  If you are using the English voice it 
may not alert you to the Russian and if you are using the Russian you may not 
know there are English words.  I am surprised that apple made the Auto 
switching among languages available on iOS devices and not on their computers.

Cheers,

Cris

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

 

Hi Chris,
No, you don't get automatic language switching on the Mac. At least, it hasn't 
worked for me where it has worked for me on the iPhone between English and 
Russian. Open office is not accessible. With regard to the language switching, 
it's not too hard to switch languages, because there is a keystroke that let 
you move from one to another one. But it's not the same as the automatic 
switching that you can have on iOS. As for word processors, there is pages and 
there is Microsoft Word for Mac, which some people say works quite well. I have 
not used it, so I cannot comment.depending on how big of a Microsoft Word user 
you are, you may find that the Mac version isn't up to what you are used to. 
And then there is pages, which will have a learning curve, especially if you 
are into word with windows. There's also text at it, which is a lot simpler and 
has fewer features naturally. So it depends on your word processing needs.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Cris Ali  > wrote:

Hello folks,

I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 mhz 
quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  The 
description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.

I have a number of questions however:

First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching?  
I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice over 
does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX deal 
with this issue?

Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably something 
that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?

Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare myself 
for the time when I get my computer? 

Your help will be appreciated.

Regards,

Cris

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Reorder playlists in iTunes

[Grant]

Hi all,

Does anybody know how best to reorder tracks in a playlist in iTunes? Not sure 
if there are keyboard commands to move tracks up or down, but VO’s drag and 
drop features do not appear to work.

Thanks!

Grant

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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

There's also a way to program the remote to send the correct infrared's to your 
TV to change volume I don't number directly where it is but it someplace in 
settings. You do need your old remote in order for this to work.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

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> That's a really funny thing.  I think some television/receivers support 
> receiving the volume command and others don't.  There was a standard protocol 
> over HDMI which was needed to make the volume button work as you describe, 
> but I don't remember exactly what it was called.  If you Google, I'm sure you 
> could find it out fairly easily though.  The odd thing is, my receiver, the 
> Yamaha RXV477 isn't being made anymore, but it has the option to do it, but 
> it's not enabled by default.  My point is, you might have to look in the 
> menus on your TV or receiver to see if it's turned on, once you find out what 
> that setting was called.  The hard thing is, I recall some companies calling 
> it different  things.  Yamaha called it one thing, I think Sony another, etc. 
>  there were only a few names for it.  Like I said, I just can't for the life 
> of me remember them.
> 
> You may have to get sighted help to go into the menus and make sure it's 
> enabled though.  And yes, like I said, it's rare anymore these days, but I 
> have seen systems that don't have the option needed.  I'd say most likely you 
> probably do though, but you just need to turn it on.
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> - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:19 PM
> Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
> Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
> more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
> the television volume?  If so, how?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[sadam ahmed]

Forget about Adobe it's a joke to say the least.

As Tim has stated PDF Pen Pro is quite good for more complex things.

Haven't got it yet but it's on my app list.

On 24/05/2016 8:55 AM, Percy Garrett wrote:
Hi, how do you fill out pdf forms? Should I download Adobe or some 
other app or software? Thanks!

Percy Garrett


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Hi,

For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, 
I use PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.


Later...

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On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You 
get a great experience reading them on Windows.


Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.



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Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac

[Kimberly]

Thanks. I'll definitely check it out.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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> Kimber,
> 
> You may want to have a look at my Youtube channel, as I did an extremely 
> comprehensive walkthrough recently on ITunes, and how to navigate the music 
> area.
> 
> You'll find the video on my channel, which is at:
> 
> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Chris.
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> - Original Message - From: "Kimber Gardner" 
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> To: 
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> Subject: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac
> 
> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I'm new to the list and pretty much a novice to the Mac though I've
>> had an iPhone for the past four years.
>> 
>> I have an older MacAir running Lion which I want to use to stream
>> content from my iTunes library and Apple music. My problem is I'm
>> unable to locate the particular artist, album or playlist I want to
>> play. I have been able to get content to play, but it seems more by
>> luck than skill. Here's what happens.
>> 
>> I have my iTunes displayed by artist. But when I get into the -- I
>> guess it's the table? -- where the content is shown, all I see is how
>> many albums or songs I have by each artist but not the names of the
>> artists.
>> 
>> If someone could give me some basic steps for navigating around iTunes
>> and accessing my content I would be very grateful.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Kimber
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Jenine Stanley]

The Watch uses wifi only if it is on the same network as your phone. This way 
you can go out of bluetooth range but if you’re on the same network, you can 
still use many of the Watch features. This works for me primarily when I go to 
my main workplace from my home office. the wifi is the same throughout the 
building so things like Siri still work even if my phone is out of range.
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> I was under the impression that the Apple Watch uses Bluetooth, not wifi.
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> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
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> Subject: Apple Watch on Wifi.
> 
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
> Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Percy Garrett]

Hi, how do you fill out pdf forms? Should I download Adobe or some other app 
or software? Thanks!

Percy Garrett


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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:48 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: State of PDF accessibility?

Hi,

For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.


Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
great experience reading them on Windows.


Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.

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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Let me make it very very clear on something, as I do not wish to give false 
information.  I'm probably not the one you want to be talking to when it 
comes to Logic, as honestly, I have to say I'm more on the side of the fence 
with Anders than with Cara, with all due respect.  No hard feelings are 
intended against Cara, so make that very very clear.  If Logic works for 
her, and for others, then great, but in a setting where I'm being paid on an 
hourly basis, or sometimes only have X amount of time booked in a studio 
which I take my Logic rig into, I don't have time to sit here and do 
work-arounds.  I need to produce no-nonsense music/production and get it 
done in a timely manor.  I agree that there are lots of work arounds, but 
that's just it.  they're work arounds.  I need something more rock-solid.


I love the samples that come with Logic, no doubt, but at this time, I'm 
sorry to say, it cannot be my DAW of choice primarily.

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To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for 
OSX



Hi Anders,

I’m not sure what you mean by saying that Logic is not being furthered in 
accessibility. While there are still issues with it, it is absolutely usable 
and all of its instruments are accessible now with Voiceover.


When I say usable, it is absolutely possible to create a project, mix and 
master it in Logic and do so efficiently and accessibly as Logic stands now.


the accessibility issues I see really depend on what you may wish to do with 
your project. If you need to convert a drummer track into standard midi for 
example, so you can have specific midi control over an individual drum sound 
in a preset auto-drummer kit, then you may run into an accessibility issue, 
however, there is a work-around. so even something as specific as this, 
which the average customer may not need, is actually doable.


So if you have not taken a look at Logic lately, you may wish to revisit it.

You may be impressed at how accessible it actually is at this point.

There are some very good Logic resources on the web, including the 
http://www.blindlogic.org site and the Logic Accessibility email list and I 
believe that our own Chris Gilland has also done some tutorials for Logic as 
well.


Hope this helps and please do have a lovely day!

Cheers!

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On May 22, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
One thing that annoys me is that logic isn’t getting further beeing 
accessible.
Of course i could get reaper but what i want is logic with all its 
instruments and such.
This might sound very strange for you guys who seem able to afford such 
tools as protools.
But i don’t want to spend all my income per month on a musical creation 
tool.

I just can’t.
Sure if i had money i’d buy that but i have to face reallity.
/A
On 20 May 2016, at 14:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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Scott,

I'll be really honest with you.  You know what I use hardware wise as far 
as an interface?  I just use a little 4 channel Alesis Multi-Mix 4.  Aside 
from it having USB interface, the whole rest of the thing is totally 
analog.  It's absolutely beautiful!  And, they're dirt cheap, too!  Plus, 
as far as accessibility with the mac, just to keep this on topic, there's 
nothing to be accessible about it!  It just works.  I had an M-Audio Fast 
Tracks C400, which again was 4 channels, as I recall, but the control 
pannel software was totally! inaccessible with Voiceover.  I know a lot of 
blind people, like Brian Howerton, etc. who really, and I do mean, really! 
know their stuff who are using the Focusright Sapphire Pro lineup of 
interfaces and flipping swear by them!  I've never asked them how 
accessible the control pannel configuration utility is for them, although, 
I hear that supposedly with Voiceover, it's pretty rock solid.


As for a control surface, obviously, the Apogy is really really killer, 
but then, for most average home consumers just getting started, as myself, 
who are more low end professionals, it would probably be overkill.  Well, 
and, plus, they're like, 5 grand, so, ehh, um, werpse?  ee yeah.  Now, 
Digidesign back in the days, made a gorgeous! and I do mean, gorgeous! 
interface that also was combined as a control surface, and it's software 
was phenominally accessible!  That was the Digi03.  Oh God! that thing was 
sweet!  Unfortunately, it's not made anymore.  I would freaking kill! for 
one a those things though!  And, back when they were around, they were 

TV for Apple TV

[E.T.]

   Been toying with the notion of replacing old TV with a new one. Only 
two criteria to consider. One, for use with Apple TV and two, needs to 
have a headphone jack. Perhaps 32 inch is big enough.


   Are there good choices out there where one can easily change inputs?

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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

That's a really funny thing.  I think some television/receivers support 
receiving the volume command and others don't.  There was a standard 
protocol over HDMI which was needed to make the volume button work as you 
describe, but I don't remember exactly what it was called.  If you Google, 
I'm sure you could find it out fairly easily though.  The odd thing is, my 
receiver, the Yamaha RXV477 isn't being made anymore, but it has the option 
to do it, but it's not enabled by default.  My point is, you might have to 
look in the menus on your TV or receiver to see if it's turned on, once you 
find out what that setting was called.  The hard thing is, I recall some 
companies calling it different  things.  Yamaha called it one thing, I think 
Sony another, etc.  there were only a few names for it.  Like I said, I just 
can't for the life of me remember them.


You may have to get sighted help to go into the menus and make sure it's 
enabled though.  And yes, like I said, it's rare anymore these days, but I 
have seen systems that don't have the option needed.  I'd say most likely 
you probably do though, but you just need to turn it on.

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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV


Hi all,

I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
the television volume?  If so, how?

TIA,
Donna

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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Why not look at the Aftershokz Bluez 2S as I have suggested upon countless 
upon countless of times.


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Hi:
Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good 
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Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

There are no demos as far as I know.  Further, the issue is, the plugins are 
not accessible out of the box, hince why custom presets have to be made. 
The problem is, there is no way to take custom made exported presets from 
ProTools, and load them up in logic.  They are two completely different 
formats, and work totally differently.  Plus, the plugins wouldn't work 
cross platform with the presets, even if you could! export the presets, as 
ProTools uses the AAX I think they're called, where as Logic uses Audio 
units, so totally different.  It would be kind of like trying to take an old 
RTas plug from PT back in the days, and load it up in Cakewalk/Sonar/Reaper. 
It's just not gonna happen.

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for 
OSX



Hi Chris,

I do not know, as I do not have the Ivory plugins but I can certainly try 
them if there are demos.


I looked at them on the Synthogy site after I saw your posting on PTAccess 
but since I already have several pianos I really like the sound of, I did 
not purchase them.


I’ll see if there is a demo of some sort and try them in Logic.

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What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already, 
for Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.


Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's 
where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely would be nice 
to have them in both.

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Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for 
OSX



Hi Scott,

I think this thread is fine. It is Mac-centric as it were, after all. :)

Just to add a bit at what Chris has been saying; Yes, both ProTools and 
Logic Pro X are really the best options on Mac at this point.


I own both and also use both with outboard control surfaces / keyboards as 
well as external sound modules etc.


I feel that ProTools is definitely more intuitive out of the box but having 
said that, certain things are way easier to do with Logic and others are way 
easier with ProTools.


So as long as you can afford ProTools I would also suggest that you get 
Logic as well or at least try it out so you can judge for yourself.


One difference I have noticed between PT and Logic is that several plugins 
seem to be more accessible in Logic than in PT. This does not mean they are 
not usable to some degree in PT but they can be quite a bit more so in 
Logic.


One example is the M-Tron Pro plugin from G-Force software, which is an 
amazingly comprehensive Mellotron (and other trons) sampler plugin.


In Logic all of the editing controls are available with Voiceover whereas in 
PT 11 at least, these are not.


Hope this helps a bit and do have a great weekend!

Cheers!

Cara
On May 20, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Hi Chris, I hope Mark will give us some latitude here but of course if he or 
the other mods wish I’d kill the thread no problem.


That said, I’ve found your comments very very helpful.

The last recording system I personally owned was an Alesis ADAT with a 
Behringer DDX3216 digital mixer.  Had analog controls but the busses and 
audio path were all 24 bit 100 KHZ digital.  For $900 it sounded really warm 
and nice and with the extra add on board I had installed I could do full 5.1 
mixes.  That being said it was hard to use being blind do to the menus.  The 
control surfaces were very good with real faders and pots but to work with 
the automation or some of your time sync stuff it involved working with an 8 
line LCD display. So the more i can do in software on the mac that’s 
accessible the better and from what you’re telling me it sounds like Mac 
with Protools hands down.


I feel a trip to Caruso Music coming on this weekend.  There’s something to 
be said growing up 8 miles from one of the largest equipment suppliers.:)  I 
believe they have a full setup I can get my hands on and I aught to be able 
to just hit command F5 on the mac.  Any tips for a n00by who hasn’t touched 
protools?


Other than the Mac and what sounds like a beautiful midi interface on your 
part, have you bothered with much 

Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
No, you don't get automatic language switching on the Mac. At least, it hasn't 
worked for me where it has worked for me on the iPhone between English and 
Russian. Open office is not accessible. With regard to the language switching, 
it's not too hard to switch languages, because there is a keystroke that let 
you move from one to another one. But it's not the same as the automatic 
switching that you can have on iOS. As for word processors, there is pages and 
there is Microsoft Word for Mac, which some people say works quite well. I have 
not used it, so I cannot comment.depending on how big of a Microsoft Word user 
you are, you may find that the Mac version isn't up to what you are used to. 
And then there is pages, which will have a learning curve, especially if you 
are into word with windows. There's also text at it, which is a lot simpler and 
has fewer features naturally. So it depends on your word processing needs.
Mary


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> On May 23, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5 
> mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.  
> The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
> 
> I have a number of questions however:
> 
> First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and switching? 
>  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.  If voice 
> over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual users of OSX 
> deal with this issue?
> 
> Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably 
> something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
> 
> Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare 
> myself for the time when I get my computer?
> 
> Your help will be appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cris
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, this is new news to me.  Where does one then go to connect the watch to 
wifi?  I never saw that under settings on the watch, nor in the watch app on 
the phone.  What am I missing?

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.


Hi. With Bluetooth off, yes, the watch still communicate over Wi-Fi. You'll 
be able to do things like send messages, check email, you Siri. You won't be 
able to ping the iPhone however.


Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  
wrote:


Hi!
Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to 
use apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
Iphone.

At least it tells me so.
So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
Both devices uses the most up to date version.
Any thoughts
/AA

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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

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I was under the impression that the Apple Watch uses Bluetooth, not wifi.
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Subject: Apple Watch on Wifi.


Hi!
Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
Iphone.

At least it tells me so.
So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
Both devices uses the most up to date version.
Any thoughts
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Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Kimber,

You may want to have a look at my Youtube channel, as I did an extremely 
comprehensive walkthrough recently on ITunes, and how to navigate the music 
area.


You'll find the video on my channel, which is at:

http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

HTH.

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Hello All,

I'm new to the list and pretty much a novice to the Mac though I've
had an iPhone for the past four years.

I have an older MacAir running Lion which I want to use to stream
content from my iTunes library and Apple music. My problem is I'm
unable to locate the particular artist, album or playlist I want to
play. I have been able to get content to play, but it seems more by
luck than skill. Here's what happens.

I have my iTunes displayed by artist. But when I get into the -- I
guess it's the table? -- where the content is shown, all I see is how
many albums or songs I have by each artist but not the names of the
artists.

If someone could give me some basic steps for navigating around iTunes
and accessing my content I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Kimber

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Re: Formatting documents with headings etc.

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Well then, you're in luck. There's a comprehensive book on how to use pages 
written by a list member here. You can get the book called "my mac pages" at  
www.mosen.org

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>> On 24 May 2016, at 6:49 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
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>> free with your Mac and syncs well with iOS versions of the app.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> On May 23, 2016, at 11:47, sadam ahmed  wrote:
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A number of questions from a Nubie

[Cris Ali]

Hello folks,
I think I decided to get the macbook pro 15.4 inch with retina display 2.5
mhz quad core Pentium i7.  It comes with a 512 gb of SSD and 16 gb of ram.
The description sounds attractive, and the weight is not that heavy.
I have a number of questions however:
First, does the voiceover support automatic language detection and
switching?  I am multi lingual and I like this feature on the iOS devices.
If voice over does not support this feature, how do multi and bilingual
users of OSX deal with this issue?
Secondly, What is a good accessible word processor to use, preferably
something that support .docs and .doc extensions. Is open office accessible?
Finally, do you recommend any tutorials or documents to read to prepare
myself for the time when I get my computer? 
Your help will be appreciated.
Regards,
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Re: Formatting documents with headings etc.

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Thanks Tim, admittedly I haven't tried pages. To be honest I need some training 
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[E.T.]

   I do on occasion do other things like today I tested a lovely new 
iOS app called Vintage Radio. I will use the iPad for most other tasks 
and keep the iPhone ready to take calls.


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On 5/23/2016 12:46 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

Wow, I am pretty much just the opposite, using my phone for just about 
everything but a phone lately.
Jenine Stanley
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On May 23, 2016, at 2:26 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Since I still view my iPhone as a phone, I do not use it heavily. Main use at 
the moment is phone calls and text messaging. I could probably go 2-3 days 
before the charge drops below 20%. But generally, I rarely let it go below 75% 
in case of major storms or other natural disasters such as earthquakes so I 
charge it at least every other night.

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Thanks much. About how long does your battery last before getting down to, say, 
10%?
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On May 23, 2016, at 10:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone when I am 
not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I have most apps set 
to never use data if there is no wifi.

 This article may provide more ideas.



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On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button reset.

I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This sucks 
one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help significantly.

I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long meeting 
and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.

My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. I’ve got 
a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does drain battery.

Then to tackle the data issue.
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On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:

Hi Jenine,

Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?

Sometimes that can cause problems.

You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
software related.

After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store is in 
order.

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some reason my 
phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. I’m also using 
data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have the wifi mode 
turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal.

Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
match the drain I’m experiencing.

Thoughts?
Jenine Stanley
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Re: voiceover quits speaking

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   No ideas except to keep using Command F6 until it gets fixed. Which 
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Hi:
I have a MBP 2010 running the latest version of el capitan. Voiceover will stop 
speaking. I have to press command f5 to turn vo on and off. Some times I have 
to force a shut down. Any ideas?
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Re: voiceover quits speaking

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   I meant Command F5.

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Hi:
I have a MBP 2010 running the latest version of el capitan. Voiceover
will stop speaking. I have to press command f5 to turn vo on and off.
Some times I have to force a shut down. Any ideas?
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Re: voiceover quits speaking

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And this is why I downgraded not once but twice. 

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voiceover quits speaking

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Re: Formatting documents with headings etc.

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Hi,

Have you tried using Pages?  It should do all this and more for you.  It's free 
with your Mac and syncs well with iOS versions of the app.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On May 23, 2016, at 11:47, sadam ahmed  wrote:

Hi again list

What do people use for applying headings,  font changes,  and alike on the Mac?

I'm yet to find something that rivals Word on the PC.

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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

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Hi,

For basic pdf reading, Preview works fine for me.  For fancier pdf's, I use 
PDFPenPro.  It's far from free though.

Later...

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On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
great experience reading them on Windows.

Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.

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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

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Hi,

It seems that Adobe believes that Read Aloud in Adobe DC constitutes 
accessibility.  Not in my world.  I'm also working on them with respect to the 
Adobe Creative Cloud app.  It's extremely difficult to manage an enterprise 
version of Adobe CC when the accessibility of the controlling app is not 
accessible.  I did actually get a response from them on this one though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
great experience reading them on Windows.

Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.

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Re: Focus Blue 40 braille display not working on the Mac computer when using Bluetooth

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Anne.

Sorry for the late reply.  I did do what you suggested months ago but it still 
kept happening, the combination of letters which I tried to do timed out.  
However, I’m waiting for more improvements re braille on the Mac but so far 
nothing is happening yet about braille.  I wish it would.  I wish braille on 
the Mac was as good as braille on the I devices.

Kawal.
> On 22 May 2016, at 10:30, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Kawal,
> 
> Here’s a suggestion how to make it work.
> Position your left hand on the computer keyboard with your little finger on 
> the Command key and your index finger on the letter ‘b’. Place your right 
> hand on your Braille display. In this way, you only have to bring your left 
> hand to your right hand after pressing Cmd-b and you should have time to 
> press the key combination you want.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 May 2016, at 10:16, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anne.
>> 
>> That is my problem, I am not quick enough to sign the commands. It times out 
>> because I am too slow.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 21 May 2016, at 6:56 pm, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Kawal,
>>> To assign a command on a Braille display, press the Assign command button, 
>>> then press the Add button.
>>> Press Cmd-b then quickly press the key combination on your Braille device 
>>> that you wish to use. You’ll then find a menu button where you can select 
>>> the appropriate action.
>>> 
>>> You have to be quick putting in the key combination on your Braille display 
>>> as you only have 5 seconds and the computer makes a sort of clanging noise 
>>> for the whole time.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 May 2016, at 08:58, Kawal Gucukoglu > wrote:
 
 Last time I tried to assign commands, I could not do it.  If someone can 
 explain how to do it please then that would be hhelpful as I’d like to use 
 my braille display with the Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
> On 20 May 2016, at 00:10, David Chittenden  > wrote:
> 
> Braille displays are highly customiseable on the Mac. Have you looked at 
> the table of commands for your braille display?
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20 May 2016, at 07:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Are you connection your braille display through the Voice Utility menu?  
>> You can’t connect it directly through the Bluetooth menu.  You need to 
>> select the Voice Utility, VO F8 and arrow down until you get to braille. 
>>  I have just connected my Focus 40 Blue to make sure and it works 
>> although i find braille on the mac not very useful.  I wish it was but 
>> thus far no work is being done to change this.  Just my opinion.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 19 May 2016, at 19:58, Scott Berry >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello there,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else having problems still with the Focus 40 Blue display not 
>>> working in bluetooth mode on the Mac?
>>> 
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Jenine Stanley]

Wow, I am pretty much just the opposite, using my phone for just about 
everything but a phone lately. 
Jenine Stanley
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> 
>   Since I still view my iPhone as a phone, I do not use it heavily. Main use 
> at the moment is phone calls and text messaging. I could probably go 2-3 days 
> before the charge drops below 20%. But generally, I rarely let it go below 
> 75% in case of major storms or other natural disasters such as earthquakes so 
> I charge it at least every other night.
> 
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> On 5/23/2016 10:58 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>> Thanks much. About how long does your battery last before getting down to, 
>> say, 10%?
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 10:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone when 
>>> I am not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I have most 
>>> apps set to never use data if there is no wifi.
>>> 
>>>  This article may provide more ideas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
 Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button 
 reset.
 
 I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This 
 sucks one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help 
 significantly.
 
 I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long 
 meeting and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.
 
 My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. 
 I’ve got a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does 
 drain battery.
 
 Then to tackle the data issue.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jenine,
> 
> Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?
> 
> Sometimes that can cause problems.
> 
> You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
> software related.
> 
> After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store 
> is in order.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some 
>> reason my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. 
>> I’m also using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and 
>> have the wifi mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular 
>> signal.
>> 
>> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into 
>> the battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t 
>> seem to match the drain I’m experiencing.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Donna Goodin]

Hmm.  So far it seems like the volume button only impacts the Apple TV, but I 
may just not have figured it all out yet.  Good to know, though, sounds like it 
is an option to control the TV volume with it.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 23, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi, on my TV the volume control actuates the m ain TV volume, not just voice 
> over.  So the Apple TV volume turns up the main set volume when pressed, not 
> its internal volume.  Not sure if that’s default but that’s how mine has 
> always seemed to work.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
>> Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
>> more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
>> the television volume?  If so, how?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

The funny thing about that is that a lot of Apple’s own PDFs, even the 
technical ones and the VO Getting Started document, are tagged.  You get a 
great experience reading them on Windows.

Yes, I too hope this absurd situation improves.

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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Angus MacKinnon]

I never got Adobe DCT to work on my 2013 iMac. Adobe Software is full of 
security problems. I do not want Adobe Software on my iMac. Because mosst 
businesses do not use a accessible PDF I bought a OCR program. I know someone 
that teaches people how to make accessible pdFs. Accessible PDFS are simpler 
than what people think.

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Re: State of PDF accessibility?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Unfortunately, yes.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On May 23, 2016, at 1:52 PM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> A while ago Adobe was touting accessibility for there DC product.
> 
> 
> I'm guessing that PDF access is as bad as ever?
> 
> 
> This is why I hang on to my PC.
> 
> 
> I hope something is done regarding this in Mac OS.
> 
> 
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[E.T.]

   Since I still view my iPhone as a phone, I do not use it heavily. 
Main use at the moment is phone calls and text messaging. I could 
probably go 2-3 days before the charge drops below 20%. But generally, I 
rarely let it go below 75% in case of major storms or other natural 
disasters such as earthquakes so I charge it at least every other night.


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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/23/2016 10:58 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

Thanks much. About how long does your battery last before getting down to, say, 
10%?
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On May 23, 2016, at 10:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone when I 
am not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I have most apps 
set to never use data if there is no wifi.

  This article may provide more ideas.



From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button reset.

I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This sucks 
one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help significantly.

I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long meeting 
and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.

My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. I’ve got 
a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does drain battery.

Then to tackle the data issue.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:

Hi Jenine,

Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?

Sometimes that can cause problems.

You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
software related.

After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store is in 
order.

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some reason my 
phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. I’m also using 
data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have the wifi mode 
turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal.

Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
match the drain I’m experiencing.

Thoughts?
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com





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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Scott Granados]

It depends on the usage, type of networks you attach to and a lot of factors.  
I generally get at least a day of heavy usage and on the weekends I make it all 
the way through with out recharging.

> On May 23, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Thanks much. About how long does your battery last before getting down to, 
> say, 10%?
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 10:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone when I 
>> am not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I have most 
>> apps set to never use data if there is no wifi.
>> 
>>  This article may provide more ideas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>> Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button 
>>> reset.
>>> 
>>> I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This 
>>> sucks one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help 
>>> significantly.
>>> 
>>> I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long 
>>> meeting and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.
>>> 
>>> My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. I’ve 
>>> got a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does drain 
>>> battery.
>>> 
>>> Then to tackle the data issue.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
 
 Hi Jenine,
 
 Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?
 
 Sometimes that can cause problems.
 
 You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
 software related.
 
 After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store 
 is in order.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some 
> reason my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. 
> I’m also using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and 
> have the wifi mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular 
> signal.
> 
> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
> battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem 
> to match the drain I’m experiencing.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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State of PDF accessibility?

[sadam ahmed]

All,


A while ago Adobe was touting accessibility for there DC product.


I'm guessing that PDF access is as bad as ever?


This is why I hang on to my PC.


I hope something is done regarding this in Mac OS.


Sadam Ahmed



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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks much. About how long does your battery last before getting down to, say, 
10%? 
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> 
>   I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone when I 
> am not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I have most apps 
> set to never use data if there is no wifi.
> 
>   This article may provide more ideas.
> 
> 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>> Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button 
>> reset.
>> 
>> I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This 
>> sucks one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help 
>> significantly.
>> 
>> I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long 
>> meeting and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.
>> 
>> My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. I’ve 
>> got a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does drain 
>> battery.
>> 
>> Then to tackle the data issue.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jenine,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?
>>> 
>>> Sometimes that can cause problems.
>>> 
>>> You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
>>> software related.
>>> 
>>> After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store is 
>>> in order.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
 I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some 
 reason my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. 
 I’m also using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and 
 have the wifi mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular 
 signal.
 
 Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
 battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem 
 to match the drain I’m experiencing.
 
 Thoughts?
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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Scott Granados]

I have a regular generic bluetooth keyboard I use with my iPad that works 
great.  You might give that a try.



> On May 23, 2016, at 1:40 PM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
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> Thanks, all.
> 
> Think I'll stay put with my current iPad.
> 
> The sound system sounds good but not really a big enough reason to upgrade.
> 
> As for the processor  think iOS 10 will run just fine with the A8 chip.
> 
> The keyboard sounds interesting for writing but I'm sure I can find something 
> for the Air 2.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 24/05/2016 12:46 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>> The smart keyboard works well and can fold to stand the iPad pro in 
>> landscape mode.  I think that there is a separate back side snap on to 
>> protect from scratching.
>> Typing on that keyboard is fine.
>> Since I have a Keys2Go Keyboard that is flat and portable and fits in bags 
>> and purses, that's what I use.
>> There are more available gigs and the weight and dimensions seem identical.
>> iPad Pro has a slightly faster processor and definitely better sound with 
>> four speakers that using a case doesn't seem to bother.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I currently have the iPad Air 2.
>>> 
>>> Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?
>>> 
>>> Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>> 
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Formatting documents with headings etc.

[sadam ahmed]

Hi again list

What do people use for applying headings,  font changes,  and alike on 
the Mac?


I'm yet to find something that rivals Word on the PC.

Currently I use iText Express which is okay for basic stuff but I'm 
looking for something that will allow me to add the above to my documents.


Thanks for all and any responses.

Best regards,

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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[sadam ahmed]

Thanks, all.

Think I'll stay put with my current iPad.

The sound system sounds good but not really a big enough reason to upgrade.

As for the processor  think iOS 10 will run just fine with the A8 chip.

The keyboard sounds interesting for writing but I'm sure I can find 
something for the Air 2.


Best regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 24/05/2016 12:46 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

The smart keyboard works well and can fold to stand the iPad pro in landscape 
mode.  I think that there is a separate back side snap on to protect from 
scratching.
Typing on that keyboard is fine.
Since I have a Keys2Go Keyboard that is flat and portable and fits in bags and 
purses, that's what I use.
There are more available gigs and the weight and dimensions seem identical.
iPad Pro has a slightly faster processor and definitely better sound with four 
speakers that using a case doesn't seem to bother.



Sent from my iPhone


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Hi all,

I currently have the iPad Air 2.

Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?

Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?

Thanks for any feedback.

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: Bluetooth headset

[Scott Granados]

The Plantronics Backbeat is a good way to go for stereo headset.


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Re: Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Scott Granados]

Hi, on my TV the volume control actuates the m ain TV volume, not just voice 
over.  So the Apple TV volume turns up the main set volume when pressed, not 
its internal volume.  Not sure if that’s default but that’s how mine has always 
seemed to work.

Thanks

> On May 23, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> 
> I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
> Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
> more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust 
> the television volume?  If so, how?
> TIA,
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Re: Help needed navigating iTunes on a Mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hello Kimber,

I run iTunes on El Capitan, and it's the latest version of iTunes, 12.4.

Firstly, make sure that the category music is selected and the checkbox "my 
music" is checked too.  Also, the way I look and search for my music is by 
enabling "music browser".  To show "column browser" or hide it, you need to go 
to the view menu.  Press vo+m once and vo right arrow till you hear "view".  
Then down arrow to till you hear "column browser submenu.  Then right arrow to 
expand it.  The first item in this submenu should tell you whether the column 
browser is showing or hidden.  If it says "hide" then it is enabled and should 
be showing.  Also, in this submenu, you can check the items that you want your 
column browser to show as columns.  I have checked here genres, composers, and 
albums.  So my music browser shows in columns these categories.  You can move 
along these columns and as you do so, the table to the right of your music 
browser will reflect the music which you focus on in the music browser.  I 
normally interact with the music browser first, choose what I want to show and 
then stop interacting with the music browser and vo right arrow to the music 
table and interact with it to see what's in there.  This takes some getting 
used to so do experiment with it.  I used to get frustrated with the music 
browser as it takes some learning as to how it responds to your arrow keys.  
For instance, in the music browser, if I by mistake select some obscure genre 
for which I have no music, then my music table to the right will not display 
any music.  You may not wish to have the genre column at all in which case you 
can uncheck it in the view menu under column browser submenu.

Also, remember that as long as you have "my music" checked, you can search for 
an album or artist by typing their names in the search box if you can remember 
them correctly.

I hope this will help a little.

Best wishes

Andrew 
> On 23 May 2016, at 11:53, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
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> I'm new to the list and pretty much a novice to the Mac though I've
> had an iPhone for the past four years.
> 
> I have an older MacAir running Lion which I want to use to stream
> content from my iTunes library and Apple music. My problem is I'm
> unable to locate the particular artist, album or playlist I want to
> play. I have been able to get content to play, but it seems more by
> luck than skill. Here's what happens.
> 
> I have my iTunes displayed by artist. But when I get into the -- I
> guess it's the table? -- where the content is shown, all I see is how
> many albums or songs I have by each artist but not the names of the
> artists.
> 
> If someone could give me some basic steps for navigating around iTunes
> and accessing my content I would be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Question about volume button on 4th Gen Apple TV

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I love that you can use the volume button on the 4th Gen Apple TV to control 
Voiceover volume.  It's nice that VO doesn't come blaring out of the TV any 
more.  Does anyone happen to know if you can also use that button to adjust the 
television volume?  If so, how?
TIA,
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Bluetooth headset

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Is there a Bluetooth headset that will fit in both ears, and have good stareo 
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

I actually love that feature.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 23, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Touching the remote or some how triggering any of the buttons or touch 
> surface will power up your TV if you have that feature enabled under settings.
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> I remember reading something about people's TVs turning on at inopportune 
>> times, such as the middle of the night. This was shortly after the new 
>> version came out, and whatever it was, it was not a neighbor causing it. 
>> Unfortunately, I don't remember what the problem was caused by. Googling 
>> around might find you something. We haven't had that happen with ours yet.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 22, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah but why would apple tv lturn on if it’s just downloading something, 
>>> surely that could happen on the device without your tv having to turn on? 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 3:28 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>>>  
>>> Oh! That makes sense.  I certainly prefer that explanation to Simon's. It 
>>> would be kind of creepy if your neighbor really could turn on your TV.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On May 22, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Daniel Miller >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Are TVs do that too. We have three AppleTV fourth-generation units, and two 
>>> out of the three TVs randomly turn on. My guess is it does that when tvOS 
>>> wants to download Ariel screensaver videos.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no 
>>> apparent reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors too.  
>>> I wonder how it is that that happens?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple 
>>> tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an 
>>> apple tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.
>>>  
>>> I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>>>  
>>> It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering 
>>> our emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it 
>>> worked like a charm.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
>>> this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
>>> grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
>>> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
>>> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds 
>>> like you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here 
>>> somewhere.
>>>  
>>> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
>>> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
>>> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style 
>>> Apple Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't 
>>> think that's what you meant, is it?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone

Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Scott Granados]

Touching the remote or some how triggering any of the buttons or touch surface 
will power up your TV if you have that feature enabled under settings.


> On May 23, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I remember reading something about people's TVs turning on at inopportune 
> times, such as the middle of the night. This was shortly after the new 
> version came out, and whatever it was, it was not a neighbor causing it. 
> Unfortunately, I don't remember what the problem was caused by. Googling 
> around might find you something. We haven't had that happen with ours yet.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 22, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
>> Yeah but why would apple tv lturn on if it’s just downloading something, 
>> surely that could happen on the device without your tv having to turn on?
>> 
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 3:28 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>> 
>> Oh! That makes sense.  I certainly prefer that explanation to Simon's. It 
>> would be kind of creepy if your neighbor really could turn on your TV.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On May 22, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Are TVs do that too. We have three AppleTV fourth-generation units, and two 
>> out of the three TVs randomly turn on. My guess is it does that when tvOS 
>> wants to download Ariel screensaver videos.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>> On May 22, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no 
>> apparent reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors too.  
>> I wonder how it is that that happens?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple 
>> tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an 
>> apple tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.
>> 
>> I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>> 
>> It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
>> emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
>> like a charm.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
>> this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
>> grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
>> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
>> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard. Sounds like 
>> you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.
>> 
>> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button? 
>> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
>> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
>> Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think 
>> that's what you meant, is it?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. 
>> I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
>> 
>> We are now the 

Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Mary Otten]

I remember reading something about people's TVs turning on at inopportune 
times, such as the middle of the night. This was shortly after the new version 
came out, and whatever it was, it was not a neighbor causing it. Unfortunately, 
I don't remember what the problem was caused by. Googling around might find you 
something. We haven't had that happen with ours yet.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah but why would apple tv lturn on if it’s just downloading something, 
> surely that could happen on the device without your tv having to turn on?
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 3:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> Oh! That makes sense.  I certainly prefer that explanation to Simon's. It 
> would be kind of creepy if your neighbor really could turn on your TV.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 22, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>  
> Are TVs do that too. We have three AppleTV fourth-generation units, and two 
> out of the three TVs randomly turn on. My guess is it does that when tvOS 
> wants to download Ariel screensaver videos.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On May 22, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no apparent 
> reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors too.  I wonder 
> how it is that that happens?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>  
> I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple 
> tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an apple 
> tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.
>  
> I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
> emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
> like a charm.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
> this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
> grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>  
> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
> you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.
>  
> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
> TIA,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
> Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
> what you meant, is it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
> was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
> 
> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
> 
> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
> then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
> within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and 
> hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you 
> navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a 
> choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a 
> second-generation Apple TV.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 

Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Chris,

I do not know, as I do not have the Ivory plugins but I can certainly try them 
if there are demos.

I looked at them on the Synthogy site after I saw your posting on PTAccess but 
since I already have several pianos I really like the sound of, I did not 
purchase them.

I’ll see if there is a demo of some sort and try them in Logic.

Cheers!

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What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already, for 
Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.

Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's 
where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely would be nice to 
have them in both.
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Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX


Hi Scott,

I think this thread is fine. It is Mac-centric as it were, after all. :)

Just to add a bit at what Chris has been saying; Yes, both ProTools and Logic 
Pro X are really the best options on Mac at this point.

I own both and also use both with outboard control surfaces / keyboards as well 
as external sound modules etc.

I feel that ProTools is definitely more intuitive out of the box but having 
said that, certain things are way easier to do with Logic and others are way 
easier with ProTools.

So as long as you can afford ProTools I would also suggest that you get Logic 
as well or at least try it out so you can judge for yourself.

One difference I have noticed between PT and Logic is that several plugins seem 
to be more accessible in Logic than in PT. This does not mean they are not 
usable to some degree in PT but they can be quite a bit more so in Logic.

One example is the M-Tron Pro plugin from G-Force software, which is an 
amazingly comprehensive Mellotron (and other trons) sampler plugin.

In Logic all of the editing controls are available with Voiceover whereas in PT 
11 at least, these are not.

Hope this helps a bit and do have a great weekend!

Cheers!

Cara
On May 20, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Hi Chris, I hope Mark will give us some latitude here but of course if he or 
the other mods wish I’d kill the thread no problem.

That said, I’ve found your comments very very helpful.

The last recording system I personally owned was an Alesis ADAT with a 
Behringer DDX3216 digital mixer.  Had analog controls but the busses and audio 
path were all 24 bit 100 KHZ digital.  For $900 it sounded really warm and nice 
and with the extra add on board I had installed I could do full 5.1 mixes.  
That being said it was hard to use being blind do to the menus.  The control 
surfaces were very good with real faders and pots but to work with the 
automation or some of your time sync stuff it involved working with an 8 line 
LCD display. So the more i can do in software on the mac that’s accessible the 
better and from what you’re telling me it sounds like Mac with Protools hands 
down.

I feel a trip to Caruso Music coming on this weekend.  There’s something to be 
said growing up 8 miles from one of the largest equipment suppliers.:)  I 
believe they have a full setup I can get my hands on and I aught to be able to 
just hit command F5 on the mac.  Any tips for a n00by who hasn’t touched 
protools?

Other than the Mac and what sounds like a beautiful midi interface on your 
part, have you bothered with much synthesis or sampling gear outside the 
application?  It sounds like protools does everything for you including the 
instrumentation.  I think of protools as a direct to disk recording system. 
When I was professionally involved with music that’s all it was and it had 
other applications you’d run along side like turbo synth or the midi patcher 
etc.  I guess now I need to think of it as a much more comprehensive music work 
station.

Also keeping it on topic.  You mentioned it runs on windows.  I can’t imagine 
running protools on windows.  I had a conversation with DigiDesign back in the 
day and they swear up and down they would never ever support the PC.  I’m glad 
to hear it still runs better on the mac but my how times have changed.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.  I hope others who are in the space 
will also post what they are working with or maybe there’s a better mailing 
list more specific to audio gear I should join.

Thanks Chris


Scott


> On May 20, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 

Re: RSS Reader

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

By not simple I mean you don’t just run an app.  You need to download Python 
scripts and configure them by editing a text file.  Then you run them on a 
schedule.  The scripts need to know your SMTP server and/or need to be able to 
call sendmail to send you the email.  The newest versions also know how to 
write directly into an IMAP mailbox, which avoids a lot of the problems of 
using SMTP or sendmail, and means you can store news into a folder.

It is indeed very slick, because you get all your RSS in the same way you get 
your email.  I have a couple of folders set up that RSS gets filtered into, and 
if I want to share I can do so from wherever I am by forwarding the article 
with headers in tact (you’ll have seen me do this on this list from time to 
time).  Both iOS and Mac Mail can handle the messages just fine, and of course 
I can delete and mark read and do all the things I can do with email.

If there was a downside, I’d say it’s that Mac Mail isn’t very nice at handling 
HTML email.  It should be more like iOS, which works beautifully with it.  
Together with the activities bug in El Cap, this setup is horrible when you 
have, as I do, an activity for the web.

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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Scott Granados]

You get several improvements, better processor, 4  speakers and definitely 
improved LTE / network support.


> On May 23, 2016, at 10:26 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I currently have the iPad Air 2.
> 
> Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?
> 
> Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?
> 
> Thanks for any feedback.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Cheree Heppe]

The smart keyboard works well and can fold to stand the iPad pro in landscape 
mode.  I think that there is a separate back side snap on to protect from 
scratching.
Typing on that keyboard is fine.
Since I have a Keys2Go Keyboard that is flat and portable and fits in bags and 
purses, that's what I use.
There are more available gigs and the weight and dimensions seem identical.
iPad Pro has a slightly faster processor and definitely better sound with four 
speakers that using a case doesn't seem to bother.



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2016, at 07:26, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I currently have the iPad Air 2.
> 
> Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?
> 
> Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?
> 
> Thanks for any feedback.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
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Re: iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. If you have an iPad air two, the only real advantage to upgrading is the 
four speakers. In my opinion the smart keyboard absolutely sucks, you're better 
off waiting for a logitech case that uses the smart keyboard for the 9.7 inch 
iPad Pro. I currently use the Logitech create keyboard case for my 12.9 inch 
version, and I absolutely love it.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 23, 2016, at 10:26 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I currently have the iPad Air 2.
> 
> Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?
> 
> Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?
> 
> Thanks for any feedback.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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iPad Pro 9.7inch.

[sadam ahmed]

Hi all,

I currently have the iPad Air 2.

Wondering what advantages there are to upgrading?

Also, how's the smart keyboard for this device?

Thanks for any feedback.

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: Disk Utility

[E.T.]

   Stupid Windows is spot on! (smiles) I look at it this way. OS X is a 
helluva lot more flexible than Windows.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/23/2016 3:45 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Windows can do GPT on hard disks, so why on earth it can’t on USB devices, God 
only knows.  Stupid Windows.  Both Windows and OS X support ExFAT nowadays.

200 MB is exactly the size of the FAT32 ESP (EFI System Partition) that OS X 
creates; I imagine that’s what you were seeing.  And Windows is rumoured to 
only see and use one partition on external USB devices, so in that context this 
experience makes sense.

Even if it is bloody stupid!

General rule: if file sizes are less than 4 GB and medium is less or equal to 
32 GB and there’s a possibility that not only OS X and Windows are in use, use 
FAT32.  Else use ExFAT.  Overheads of FAT32 become noticeable above 32 GB as 
cluster sizes must grow.

BootCamp always uses a GUID partition table, however versions of Windows on 
certain versions of Apple hardware use legacy BIOS CSM emulation.  The table 
becomes “hybrid”, which in simple terms means that it combines GPT and MBR, 
with BootCamp tools combining them and keeping them in sync.  But recent 
versions of Windows (8+) and recent versions of Mac hardware support a pure GPT 
environment, with no hybrid partition.  These are clearly preferable, if you 
can get them, because Windows and OS X are sharing the exact same hardware 
profile.  The most recent hardware (the 2015 model MacBook Pro, for instance) 
dropped CSM; now operating systems booting on it must be UEFI-capable (Windows 
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[E.T.]

   I myself have auto lock set to never. I will manually lock the phone 
when I am not going to use it. You also can set brightness to zero. I 
have most apps set to never use data if there is no wifi.


   This article may provide more ideas.



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On 5/23/2016 6:33 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button reset.

I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This sucks 
one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help significantly.

I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long meeting 
and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone.

My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. I’ve got 
a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does drain battery.

Then to tackle the data issue.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:

Hi Jenine,

Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?

Sometimes that can cause problems.

You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
software related.

After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store is in 
order.

Kind regards,

Sadam Ahmed

On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some reason my 
phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. I’m also using 
data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have the wifi mode 
turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal.

Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
match the drain I’m experiencing.

Thoughts?
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com





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RE: settings for voiceover navigation

[Rhonda Partain]

Thank you, I’ll do that. 
Rhonda
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: settings for voiceover navigation
 
When I'm using a Mac, I like to have Quick Nav on. This way, you can move 
around the screen by hitting left or right arrow.  Hit the Left and Right Arrow 
keys together to turn this on.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
Ok, so I have a mac, I managed to  figure out how to open things and close 
them, but I think I must have done something with the setting for the keyboard  
what settings are best for voiceover as far as navigation goes? 
Rhonda (who is definitely mac-challenged)
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Simon,

Well, since Saturday, no mysterious TV going on and off here.  I do know what 
you mean, though, about accidentally invoking the touch surface.  Last night we 
were watching TV, and I reached over the remote to pick something up off the 
table.  I guess I was too close to the remote, because it stopped the TV show, 
and took us into some kind of media menu or something.  That'll take some 
getting used to.  With the old remote, it was really hard to accidentally do 
anything.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 23, 2016, at 1:55 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah Donna,
>  
> I’ve been getting up in the morning to find my tv on, and I know that I 
> turned it off the night before,
>  
> So there are two things I’m now aware of in the way of the apple tv forth gen,
>  
> 1.   I’ve got a neighbour with an apple tv that is awake in the middle of 
> the night watching their tv,
> 2. If my remote is in the wrong place when I sit on the couch, and I 
> either knock it or put my hand on it, I can turn the tv on by mistake,
> I know that I’ve turned it on in this case because my tv makes a noise when 
> it is turned on and off,
>  
> As for the neighbour,
>  I’ve got a couple of Asian neighbours around here so possibly they are up 
> surfing the net or talking with the home planet due to time differences.
>  
> Oh and your old remote will turn it on also.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 1:27 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> Hmm.  That's interesting.  Yesterday afternoon our TV came on for no apparent 
> reason.  Now I'm wondering if we have one of those neighbors too.  I wonder 
> how it is that that happens?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple 
> tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an apple 
> tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.
>  
> I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
> emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
> like a charm.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
> this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
> grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
>  
> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
> you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.
>  
> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
> TIA,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
> Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
> what you meant, is it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
> was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
> 
> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
> 
> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent 

Re: RSS Reader

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
What do you mean by saying its not simple.
Is it hard to convert the rss to e-mail and then read it or what?
To me that sounds like a very neat sollution.
Pleas tell me more.
/A 
> 21 maj 2016 kl. 20:24 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :
> 
> In the end, I went back to rss2email.  It is not as convenient as using 
> something like Readkit, but it’s a lot more portable and flexible.  Using 
> rss2email is not simple.
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Re: battery drain on 6S

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks much. those are things I’ve tried, including the home/power button 
reset. 

I think I’ve found the culprit. I had my auto lock set to “never”. This sucks 
one’s battery dry. Setting it back to 5 minutes does help significantly. 

I had it set for “never” because I was taking notes during a day-long meeting 
and didn’t want to have to keep unlocking my phone. 

My other question though is how to remove things from the lock screen. I’ve got 
a lot of stuff on there I don’t really want or need and it does drain battery. 

Then to tackle the data issue. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jenine,
> 
> Have you tried clearing out the app switcher?
> 
> Sometimes that can cause problems.
> 
> You might also  want to consider a fresh restore just to be sure it's not 
> software related.
> 
> After that if you're still experiencing issues a trip to the Apple Store is 
> in order.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 23/05/2016 9:55 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>> I think I recall someone else having this issue recently but for some reason 
>> my phone battery is draining at what I think is an alarming rate. I’m also 
>> using data at an alarming rate. I’m checking the settings and have the wifi 
>> mode turned off that uses data when there’s a weak celular signal.
>> 
>> Not sure what’s causing the huge battery drain though. I’m going into the 
>> battery settings to see how much each app is using but that doesn’t seem to 
>> match the drain I’m experiencing.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Scott Granados]

So yes and no.

Yes, the watch can work over WiFi, you have to have WiFi calling enabled on the 
phone and you have to have the same SSID on 2.4 and 5.0 GHZ.  The watch only 
works on a 2.4 ghz connection so if you’re 5.0 only it won’t work.
If you can connect, yes the watch will attach to WiFi and allow for 
WiFi calling.  I don’t think the full feature set is available over WiFi but 
calling is.

Hope that helps.
So
> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
> Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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Re: Apple Watch on Wifi.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. With Bluetooth off, yes, the watch still communicate over Wi-Fi. You'll be 
able to do things like send messages, check email, you Siri. You won't be able 
to ping the iPhone however.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 23, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not sure whats going on here but from what i understand its possible to use 
> apple watch on wifi together with the Iphone?
> When i turn Bluetooth off my apple watch seem to not be connected to my 
> Iphone.
> At least it tells me so.
> So i did a ping for the Iphone but it didn’t seem to help.
> This is with the Iphone SE and a 42 mm apple watch stainless steel.
> Both devices uses the most up to date version.
> Any thoughts
> /AA
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