Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Pete Nalda]

Hmm. I'm at 9.3.2 (13F69). Are you at a later version? 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not on me phone man.
> /A
>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
>> it. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>>> screen.
>>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>>> for design?
>>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 

Re: Finder

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. This book is a couple of years old so it won’t have any new features 
listed. 
> On 22 Jun 2016, at 18:21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. In a way,  it is kind of too bad they didn't have a mainstream book 
> with voiceover stuff in it. How cool would that be?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, the book is specifically written with VO users in mind. In
>> fact the misunderstanding is totally my bad. The title of the book is
>> Mastering the Macintosh computer with voice-over. The author is Tim
>> Sniffen.
>> 
>> Sorry about that.
>> 
>>> On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Thanks. This sounds like a mainstream book. But you're saying then it talks
>>> about voiceover in relation to the trackpad?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 22, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Kimber Gardner 
 wrote:
 
 The book is Mastering the Macintosh Computer and it is free from the
 iBook store.
 
> On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Where did you find that book and what is its name?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:55 AM, Saqib Hussain 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by
>> Tim
>> Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands.
>> I
>> now no how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the
>> shortcut commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then
>> you
>> will be reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the
>> keyboard
>> alone. I must go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are
>> easier to remember than the keyboard command.
>>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no
>>> distinction between applications or folders or files.  When dealing
>>> with
>>> folders, it usually depends on the format of the window.  That is,
>>> whether you have it in Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
 Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I
 thought
 I had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know
 how
 to get to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and
 I
 have tried tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>>> or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
>>> Cara
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>>> or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
>>> Cara
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed 

Re: Labelling Button not sticking in iOS

[David Griffith]

Thanks - very useful feedback. I think it has stopped me probably 
knocking my head against a brick wall to no avail.


I will try contacting the developers.


David Griffith


On 22/06/2016 13:53, Larry Thacker Jr. wrote:

I have seen that happen before.  My guess is that it has something to do with 
how that particular app is coded.  I’m not familiar with Voiceover’s internals, 
but I imagine it works like other screen readers in that it stores the bitmap 
of the item you are labeling.  If for some reason the app does not construct 
the button in the same way every time, VO can’t identify it.  The state of the 
control, i.e. selected or not) may also affect the ability of VO to detect it 
and you may just need to explore a bit more to figure out what’s happening.  I 
forget the app where I ran into this now but I finally gave up on it because 
nothing I did made the labels stick.  Unfortunately the best answer may be to 
find another app that works better with VO, but it’s a good idea to get in 
touch with the developer if you can and see if they will fix it.  If they 
properly label the buttons in the first place then you don’t have to mess with 
it.


On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:32 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

I have an app on my new iPhone SE  running iOS 9  which has unlabelled buttons.


I have tried to re-label   these buttons using the Voiceover two finger double 
tap and hold gesture.

At first re-labelling the buttons appears to work fine  after I have entered 
the new label text and then hit the save or done buttons in the custom label 
dialogue.  However then if I close the app and re-open it all my custom button 
lables have disappeared.


Obviously I want Voiceover to remember my newly labelled buttons as I do not 
want to re-enter them every time I open the app.

Does anybody know what I may be doing wrong?


David Griffith

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: You've been invited to MintVine

[E.T.]

Chris,
   You know what I am thinking?!?! Really?

   So you have 4,803,296,670 contacts in your address book, do you? 
Amazing. I wonder if that could qualify for a Guiness Book of Records. 
(smiles)


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/22/2016 2:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

E.T. I'm not gonna read this, as I know what you're thinking, and you're
totally 100% right that it never should have hit the list.  See my last
message where I apologized.  I feel like a total moron!  I swear on my
life I did not mean for this to happen!

Chris.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

Re: Apple leaves IOS kernel unencrypted in most recent release

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Yes,  Read about this earlyer.  I have to wonder about it.  I guess we 
will see.


Matthew


On 06/22/2016 11:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote:


Found this interesting article about Apple leaving their kernel code 
unencrypted.  This allows people to examine the kernel and look behind 
the curtain a bit on how things work.  Most importantly it exposes 
vulnerabilities to public scrutiny. It’s not known if this was 
intentional or accidental although speculation in the article leans 
towards intentional.  Read more here.


http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/21/ios-10-beta-unencrypted-kernel/

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: You've been invited to MintVine

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

E.T. I'm not gonna read this, as I know what you're thinking, and you're 
totally 100% right that it never should have hit the list.  See my last 
message where I apologized.  I feel like a total moron!  I swear on my life 
I did not mean for this to happen!


Chris.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Mark and others, we may have a serious serious serious problem I'd like to apologize regarding!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Last night, a friend of mine who'll be left nameless recommended this service 
to me called Mintvine, which you all probably on macvisionaries got the invite 
to.  Let me start by saying, it is a legit service, but that's aside the point.

When I clicked the link in my dashboard to send an invite to people in my gmail 
contacts, I was under the impression that it would then show me a list of my 
contacts, and would let me check only the individuals I wanted to receive the 
invitation.

What it *actually!* did without my concent, nor control, was, it automatically 
sent the invite to literally everyone! in my addressbook.  Because of the fact 
that I had the address to post to this list in there, well?  Yeah... you all 
guessed it.  It sent to the whole list!  Trust me!  This was absolutely *not!* 
what I intended to have it do, and you bet the last aching bone in your body! 
that I reported this to their support team, and requested it to be expedited to 
the absolute highest priority they could push it to to have that feature fixed. 
 They swore to me that within less than an hour, the issue would be fixed.  It 
looks like that promise was fulfilled, by the  way.  things look correct at the 
time of writing this.

My point is, I am not a spammer, and I had 100% no! and I repeat no! no no no? 
no no! intention of sending that to the list!  None!  Nada!  I feel like such a 
mortified idiot!

Anyway, so that is what happened.  I am so! so so sorry!  Really! I am!  
Profusely!  and I swear on my last dying breath! you all won't get anything 
more like that from me on list, end of story, no questions asked.

Have a fantastic day.

Chris.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Welll, it works again.
I think i restarted my Iphone so it works now.
/A
> On 22 Jun 2016, at 18:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> The timer still displays on the Lock screen on my iPhone.  I just tested it.  
> I'll take a look to see if there's a setting that may have changed this for 
> you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 02:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Oh I see, the timer not the time.
> 
> No never seen the timer on the lock screan. Only the time.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 7:57 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.
> 
> Hi!
> Not on me phone man.
> /A
>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
>> it. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>>> screen.
>>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>>> for design?
>>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

While the count-down takes place.  After the count-down is done and the alert 
sounds, there's a "Timer Done" button.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:31, E.T.  wrote:

Tim,
  Is this while the countdown takes place or when it ends?

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/22/2016 9:48 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> hi,
> 
> The timer still displays on the Lock screen on my iPhone.  I just tested it.  
> I'll take a look to see if there's a setting that may have changed this for 
> you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 02:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Oh I see, the timer not the time.
> 
> No never seen the timer on the lock screan. Only the time.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 7:57 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.
> 
> Hi!
> Not on me phone man.
> /A
>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
>> it.
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>>> screen.
>>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>>> for design?
>>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, 

Saving my IOS device back up in the archive on iTunes in my Mac

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are you all? I have a question, how do I save an iTunes back up in 
the archibe? I'm just wondering. I'm considering in  doing the apple beta 
software of IOS  10,and I read that i need to select my back up and  save it on 
my archive.  However,  I can't  select my IOS back up and  I can't find the 
button to save to the  earchive.  I really don't know what I'm doing wrong! I 
will really appreciate it a lot if you can help me regarding this matter! Feel 
free to contact me off list! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks 
and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.2

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Amazon US is Handing Out Credit for the Apple Ebook Price-Fixing Settlement

[Karen Lewellen]

Agreed,
Even a starbucks Coffee reward must be used up in a certain time frame.
Besides, if I were getting a book credit I would personally use it 
yesterday  smiles.

Kare


On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, E.T. wrote:


  That is not an unusual practice. I would say its almost standard practice.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/22/2016 11:35 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Clever!  They've rigged it so that you have to buy books in a certain
 time period or you lose your credit.  That way they sell more books.

 Best,

 Erik Burggraaf
 Visit the out of work bum for your chance to win one of 10 KNFB Reader
 or Nearby Explorer for IOS or android!
 http://www.theoutofworkbum.work
 Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for
 persons with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
 http://www.inclusiveandroid.com

>  On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu   > wrote:
> 
>  Details here:

>  https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1002402851
> 
>  It???s all automatic.  If you got a book from Amazon whose price would

>  have been reduced had it not been for Apple???s malicious attack on The
>  Free Market (TM), you???ll pick up the credit.  Enjoy.
> 
>  --

>  The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>  Visionaries list.
> 
>  If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,

>  or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>  the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
>  itself.
> 
>  Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is

>  Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
>  The archives for this list can be searched at:

>  http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>  ---
>  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>  Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>  To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>  an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>  Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>  For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.

 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
 Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 ---
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
 an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 .
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Amazon US is Handing Out Credit for the Apple Ebook Price-Fixing Settlement

[E.T.]

   That is not an unusual practice. I would say its almost standard 
practice.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/22/2016 11:35 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Clever!  They've rigged it so that you have to buy books in a certain
time period or you lose your credit.  That way they sell more books.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Visit the out of work bum for your chance to win one of 10 KNFB Reader
or Nearby Explorer for IOS or android!
http://www.theoutofworkbum.work
Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for
persons with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
http://www.inclusiveandroid.com


On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu > wrote:

Details here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1002402851

It’s all automatic.  If you got a book from Amazon whose price would
have been reduced had it not been for Apple’s malicious attack on The
Free Market (TM), you’ll pick up the credit.  Enjoy.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

Re: Amazon US is Handing Out Credit for the Apple Ebook Price-Fixing Settlement

[erik burggraaf]

Clever!  They've rigged it so that you have to buy books in a certain time 
period or you lose your credit.  That way they sell more books.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Visit the out of work bum for your chance to win one of 10 KNFB Reader or 
Nearby Explorer for IOS or android!  
http://www.theoutofworkbum.work
Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for persons 
with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
http://www.inclusiveandroid.com

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Details here:
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1002402851
> 
> It’s all automatic.  If you got a book from Amazon whose price would have 
> been reduced had it not been for Apple’s malicious attack on The Free Market 
> (TM), you’ll pick up the credit.  Enjoy.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[E.T.]

Tim,
   Is this while the countdown takes place or when it ends?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/22/2016 9:48 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

hi,

The timer still displays on the Lock screen on my iPhone.  I just tested it.  
I'll take a look to see if there's a setting that may have changed this for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2016, at 02:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Oh I see, the timer not the time.

No never seen the timer on the lock screan. Only the time.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 7:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.

Hi!
Not on me phone man.
/A

On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:

The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on it.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
screen.
But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done for 
design?
What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
Thanks in advance.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:

Re: Apple leaves IOS kernel unencrypted in most recent release

[Bill Gallik]

Of course, I’m only speculating but I suspect Apple did not strip the 
executable which would render that software much more vulnerable to “reverse 
engineering.”  That seems to me to be very intentional!



- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
- Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)--

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Found this interesting article about Apple leaving their kernel code 
> unencrypted.  This allows people to examine the kernel and look behind the 
> curtain a bit on how things work.  Most importantly it exposes 
> vulnerabilities to public scrutiny.  It’s not known if this was intentional 
> or accidental although speculation in the article leans towards intentional.  
> Read more here.
>  
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/21/ios-10-beta-unencrypted-kernel/ 
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Amazon US is Handing Out Credit for the Apple Ebook Price-Fixing Settlement

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Details here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1002402851

It’s all automatic.  If you got a book from Amazon whose price would have been 
reduced had it not been for Apple’s malicious attack on The Free Market (TM), 
you’ll pick up the credit.  Enjoy.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Finder

[Mary Otten]

Thanks. In a way,  it is kind of too bad they didn't have a mainstream book 
with voiceover stuff in it. How cool would that be?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, the book is specifically written with VO users in mind. In
> fact the misunderstanding is totally my bad. The title of the book is
> Mastering the Macintosh computer with voice-over. The author is Tim
> Sniffen.
> 
> Sorry about that.
> 
>> On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Thanks. This sounds like a mainstream book. But you're saying then it talks
>> about voiceover in relation to the trackpad?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The book is Mastering the Macintosh Computer and it is free from the
>>> iBook store.
>>> 
 On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Where did you find that book and what is its name?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:55 AM, Saqib Hussain 
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by
> Tim
> Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands.
> I
> now no how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the
> shortcut commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then
> you
> will be reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the
> keyboard
> alone. I must go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are
> easier to remember than the keyboard command.
>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no
>> distinction between applications or folders or files.  When dealing
>> with
>> folders, it usually depends on the format of the window.  That is,
>> whether you have it in Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
>>> Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I
>>> thought
>>> I had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know
>>> how
>>> to get to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and
>>> I
>>> have tried tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>> or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
>> Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>> an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>> or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
>> Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>> an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

Some posts from two or more years ago spoke of this issue.  The fix was to go 
into Settings, General, Date & Time and turn 24 hour clock on.  Set a timer and 
it would be on the Lock screen.  Most people would then go back in and put it 
back to 12 hour and the Timer remained working as it should.  Not sure why this 
is rearing it's ugly head again as I've never experienced this issue myself.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

hi,

The timer still displays on the Lock screen on my iPhone.  I just tested it.  
I'll take a look to see if there's a setting that may have changed this for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2016, at 02:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Oh I see, the timer not the time.

No never seen the timer on the lock screan. Only the time.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 7:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.

Hi!
Not on me phone man.
/A
> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
> it. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>> screen.
>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>> for design?
>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following 

Re: Finder

[Kimber Gardner]

Actually, the book is specifically written with VO users in mind. In
fact the misunderstanding is totally my bad. The title of the book is
Mastering the Macintosh computer with voice-over. The author is Tim
Sniffen.

Sorry about that.

On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Thanks. This sounds like a mainstream book. But you're saying then it talks
> about voiceover in relation to the trackpad?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The book is Mastering the Macintosh Computer and it is free from the
>> iBook store.
>>
>>> On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Where did you find that book and what is its name?
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
 On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:55 AM, Saqib Hussain 
 wrote:

Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by
 Tim
 Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands.
 I
 now no how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the
 shortcut commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then
 you
 will be reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the
 keyboard
 alone. I must go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are
 easier to remember than the keyboard command.
> On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no
> distinction between applications or folders or files.  When dealing
> with
> folders, it usually depends on the format of the window.  That is,
> whether you have it in Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
>
> Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
>> Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I
>> thought
>> I had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know
>> how
>> to get to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and
>> I
>> have tried tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
> or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
> Cara
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
> or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
> Cara
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.

 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
 or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, 

Re: Finder

[Mary Otten]

Thanks. This sounds like a mainstream book. But you're saying then it talks 
about voiceover in relation to the trackpad?
Mary
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> The book is Mastering the Macintosh Computer and it is free from the
> iBook store.
> 
>> On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Where did you find that book and what is its name?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:55 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by Tim
>>> Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands. I
>>> now no how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the
>>> shortcut commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then you
>>> will be reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the keyboard
>>> alone. I must go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are
>>> easier to remember than the keyboard command.
 On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no
 distinction between applications or folders or files.  When dealing with
 folders, it usually depends on the format of the window.  That is,
 whether you have it in Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
> Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I thought
> I had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know how
> to get to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and I
> have tried tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong?
 
 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
 
 
 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 ---
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> 

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

The timer still displays on the Lock screen on my iPhone.  I just tested it.  
I'll take a look to see if there's a setting that may have changed this for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2016, at 02:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Oh I see, the timer not the time.

No never seen the timer on the lock screan. Only the time.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 7:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.

Hi!
Not on me phone man.
/A
> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
> it. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>> screen.
>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>> for design?
>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/

Apple leaves IOS kernel unencrypted in most recent release

[Scott Granados]

Found this interesting article about Apple leaving their kernel code 
unencrypted.  This allows people to examine the kernel and look behind the 
curtain a bit on how things work.  Most importantly it exposes vulnerabilities 
to public scrutiny.  It’s not known if this was intentional or accidental 
although speculation in the article leans towards intentional.  Read more here.

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/21/ios-10-beta-unencrypted-kernel/

  

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: You've been invited to MintVine

[E.T.]

   Interesting and you just spammed thousands of people.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/22/2016 7:17 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

MintVine



You've been invited to join MintVine!
MintVine.com Invitation 
Join Now!


Join your friend (and thousands of others!) who earn cash rewards for
completing online market research surveys. It's a fun way to earn some extra
dough!

-Team MintVine
You're receiving this because you were invited by a MintVine MVP

This e-mail was sent to you because your friend registered at
https://mintvine.com


and invited you to participate in market research via email.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
<>

Re: Finder

[Kimber Gardner]

The book is Mastering the Macintosh Computer and it is free from the
iBook store.

On 6/22/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Where did you find that book and what is its name?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:55 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by Tim
>> Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands. I
>> now no how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the
>> shortcut commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then you
>> will be reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the keyboard
>> alone. I must go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are
>> easier to remember than the keyboard command.
>>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no
>>> distinction between applications or folders or files.  When dealing with
>>> folders, it usually depends on the format of the window.  That is,
>>> whether you have it in Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
 On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
 Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I thought
 I had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know how
 to get to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and I
 have tried tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong? 
>>>
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>>
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following 

Re: Labelling Button not sticking in iOS

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

I have seen that happen before.  My guess is that it has something to do with 
how that particular app is coded.  I’m not familiar with Voiceover’s internals, 
but I imagine it works like other screen readers in that it stores the bitmap 
of the item you are labeling.  If for some reason the app does not construct 
the button in the same way every time, VO can’t identify it.  The state of the 
control, i.e. selected or not) may also affect the ability of VO to detect it 
and you may just need to explore a bit more to figure out what’s happening.  I 
forget the app where I ran into this now but I finally gave up on it because 
nothing I did made the labels stick.  Unfortunately the best answer may be to 
find another app that works better with VO, but it’s a good idea to get in 
touch with the developer if you can and see if they will fix it.  If they 
properly label the buttons in the first place then you don’t have to mess with 
it.

> On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:32 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I have an app on my new iPhone SE  running iOS 9  which has unlabelled 
> buttons.
> 
> 
> I have tried to re-label   these buttons using the Voiceover two finger 
> double tap and hold gesture.
> 
> At first re-labelling the buttons appears to work fine  after I have entered 
> the new label text and then hit the save or done buttons in the custom label 
> dialogue.  However then if I close the app and re-open it all my custom 
> button lables have disappeared.
> 
> 
> Obviously I want Voiceover to remember my newly labelled buttons as I do not 
> want to re-enter them every time I open the app.
> 
> Does anybody know what I may be doing wrong?
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Finder

[Mary Otten]

Where did you find that book and what is its name?
Mary


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:55 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
> 
>   Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by Tim 
> Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands. I now 
> no how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the shortcut 
> commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then you will be 
> reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the keyboard alone. I 
> must go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are easier to 
> remember than the keyboard command.  
>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no 
>> distinction between applications or folders or files.  When dealing with 
>> folders, it usually depends on the format of the window.  That is, whether 
>> you have it in Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
>>> Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I thought I 
>>> had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know how to get 
>>> to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and I have tried 
>>> tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, 

Re: Finder

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. Thanks. I have downloaded a book on using the Mac which is by Tim 
Sniffen. The book concentrates on using the trackpad with VO commands. I now no 
how to open folders such as downloads and documents by using the shortcut 
commands. This book is free. If you don’t own a trackpad then you will be 
reading through allot of stuff which doesn’t involve the keyboard alone. I must 
go out and purchase a trackpad because the gestures are easier to remember than 
the keyboard command.  
> On 21 Jun 2016, at 23:50, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just to clarify, cmd-o opens anything and everything.  There's no distinction 
> between applications or folders or files.  When dealing with folders, it 
> usually depends on the format of the window.  That is, whether you have it in 
> Icon view, List view, Column view etc.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:45, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Forgot to add that command o launches applications.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 6/21/2016 3:41 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
>> Hi. I’m having trouble opening folders within the Finder app! I thought I 
>> had to do a command+O and VO says folder opened but I don’t know how to get 
>> to the content! I tried interacting but that doesn’t work and I have tried 
>> tabbing across but still no joy. What am I doing wrong? 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Timer on lock screen.

[Simon Fogarty]

Oh I see, the timer not the time.

 No never seen the timer on the lock screan. Only the time.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 7:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Timer on lock screen.

Hi!
Not on me phone man.
/A
> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
> it. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>> screen.
>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>> for design?
>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to 

RE: Timer on lock screen.

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm not sighted but I still have the time on my lock screan and I'm running the 
latest OS, infact I might be running 9.3.3. 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 6:48 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Timer on lock screen.

Hi!
On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
screen.
But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done for 
design?
What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
Thanks in advance.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Antivirus For My Mac Mini?

[Simon Fogarty]

To add to this one Arnold,

 I use Sophos also and on both windows and mac platforms,
 It's also what we use for our corporate machines at work.

 The address for it is: www.sophos.com/home

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Antivirus For My Mac Mini?

Hi Arnold, I run Sophos Antivirus. Its totally accessible with VO and its free. 
Just google sophos and sign up for an account and download it.
Jeff


On 6/21/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> I’m not sure how just receiving an email endangered you.  As long as 
> you don’t open it or click on any links in it or run any attachments 
> won’t you be safe?
>
>
>
>
>
> From:  on behalf of Ray Foret jr 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 5:14 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Antivirus For My Mac Mini?
>
>
>
> For my part, I run ClamXAV.  It has already saved my bacon on at least 
> one occasion just the other day.  I got an e-mail from a spam bot 
> pretending to be Wells Fargo bank.  Even though I did not open the 
> e-mail itself, I would have been in real trouble had I not been 
> running ClamXAV.  How accessible is it?  Nearly totally.  It costs, but, it’s 
> worth it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
> blind built-in
>
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, 
> Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>
>
>
> How many use some type of an antivirus program?  It has been said for 
> years that the Mac did not need one.  But it isn't as if they can't 
> get viruses, it is more that the virus writers concentrate on writing 
> viruses for windows and android phones.  If antivirus and anti-malware 
> programs are necessary, which ones are accessible?  Thanks in advance for any 
> information.
>
>
>
> I am going to the Apple store on Wednesday afternoon, and unless I 
> discover something completely unforeseen, I will buy my mini then.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because 

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Not on me phone man.
/A
> On 22 Jun 2016, at 09:20, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on 
> it. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> MySpace.com/musikonalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
>> screen.
>> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
>> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
>> for design?
>> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Timer on lock screen.

[Pete Nalda]

The timer shows up below the time. Read by VO. Flick right to put focus on it. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
> screen.
> But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
> What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done 
> for design?
> What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Timer on lock screen.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
On my Iphone i use to have the timer presenting the time left on the lock 
screen.
But since the latest upgrade this is not possible for some odd reason.
What i wonder is if its a Voiceover bug or if its something apple has done for 
design?
What i mean is if sighted people still can see the timer on the lock screen?
Thanks in advance.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

A Must-Have App for iOS News Junkies Living in the United States

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am delighted to recommend the CBS Local app to you as it is VoiceOver
accessible.  The only bug I have found is that VoiceOver reads one of the
two menu buttons, located in the upper right corner of the display, as,
"headphones, button".  So, when you hear VoiceOver say, "headphones,
button," go ahead and activate this button in order to display the various
affiliate live streaming options in your area.  The primary menu button,
located in the upper left corner of the display, is labeled correctly.

The primary purpose of this app is to keep you up-to-date via the local CBS
television and radio affiliates in your area.

Be aware that you may change the local area at any time.

This is a free app, the description and link to which I will paste in below
my signature.

Enjoy,

Mark

Description 
CBS Local is constantly updated with the latest news, sports, weather, and
traffic. Select your city and personalize your front page for the ultimate
coverage of stories that matter to you.

Features:
.Choose from 24 Major U.S. Locations
.Live-Stream Audio and Video Broadcasts
.Wake Up to Your Favorite Radio Stations
.Receive Special Offers and Deals in Your Area

This is the official mobile app for the network of CBS Local brands
including: CBS Atlanta, CBS Baltimore, CBS Boston, CBS Charlotte, CBS
Chicago, CBS Cleveland, CBS Connecticut, CBS Denver, CBS Detroit, CBS DFW,
CBS Houston, CBS Las Vegas, CBS Los Angeles, CBS Miami, CBS Minnesota, CBS
New York, CBS Philly, CBS Pittsburgh, CBS Sacramento, CBS San Francisco, CBS
Seattle, CBS St. Louis, CBS Tampa, CBS Washington, CBS 2, WCBS, 1010 WINS,
WFAN Sports Radio, WBZ, 98.5 The Sports Hub, CBS 3, KYW, WIP, 670 The Score,
WBBM, KNX, KCAL, WCCO, 97.1 The Ticket, KDKA, CBS 11, 105.3 The Fan, CBS 4,
KPIX, WNEW and more!

Please note: This app features Nielsen's audience measurement software which
will allow you to contribute to market research, such as Nielsen's TV
Ratings.

To learn more about our digital audience measurement products and your
choices in regard to them, please visit
http://www.nielsen.com/digitalprivacy for more information.

The direct link to this app is:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cbs-local/id532811902?mt=8

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.