Re: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Scott Granados]

Oh Shaw was another good bunch to work with.  I peered with with several 
carriers and they were good to work with as well.  I’m sure what’s going on is 
Amazon and Google and the rest are using geolocation databases that map IP 
address to location.  They can get down to almost what street you’re on 
sometimes by IP address.  But the phone number thing, Hotwire should do it and 
it’s free.

I’m happy to receive a text for you on a US number though if you need it.

> On May 13, 2017, at 1:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Scott, it's kinda funny that you mension bell, my cell phone provider 
> is Bell. But I doubt it's got anything to do with those guys since the 
> service uses wifi to make calls. For Wifi we're with Shaw. I'll give Hotwire 
> a try though Scott to see if that works. I have tried Google Voice but when 
> the thing comes up to enter my number so they can text me it says that my 
> country code isn't supported. But I will give Hotwire a try.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Well is not that cool...canooks rising!
>> Anyway, Shawn who is your provider?  It does not make sense indeed given 
>> amazon  did the last testing for that  service at the University of Waterloo 
>> in Ontario.
>> Perhaps something from your provider is preventing the  work?
>> Just a likely nonsensical idea,
>> Kare in Toronto.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 12 May 2017, David Diamond wrote:
>> 
>>> You live in Canada?  You poor thing.  AAA.  LOL. For the record, I live in 
>>> Western Canada, the wet coast.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:22 PM
>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting
>>> 
>>> Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am 
>>> eager to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the 
>>> appropriate tabs don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny 
>>> because someone in Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make 
>>> sense. Anyway, I wanna try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking 
>>> for any apps for iOS that'll let me send and receive texts from a US 
>>> number. I only need this so I can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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Re: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi all. Scott, it's kinda funny that you mension bell, my cell phone provider 
is Bell. But I doubt it's got anything to do with those guys since the service 
uses wifi to make calls. For Wifi we're with Shaw. I'll give Hotwire a try 
though Scott to see if that works. I have tried Google Voice but when the thing 
comes up to enter my number so they can text me it says that my country code 
isn't supported. But I will give Hotwire a try.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On May 12, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Well is not that cool...canooks rising!
> Anyway, Shawn who is your provider?  It does not make sense indeed given 
> amazon  did the last testing for that  service at the University of Waterloo 
> in Ontario.
> Perhaps something from your provider is preventing the  work?
> Just a likely nonsensical idea,
> Kare in Toronto.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 May 2017, David Diamond wrote:
> 
>> You live in Canada?  You poor thing.  AAA.  LOL. For the record, I live in 
>> Western Canada, the wet coast.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:22 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting
>> 
>> Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am 
>> eager to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate 
>> tabs don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because 
>> someone in Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. 
>> Anyway, I wanna try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any 
>> apps for iOS that'll let me send and receive texts from a US number. I only 
>> need this so I can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
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Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Scott Granados]

Oh man I know.  How many headaches do you run in to with NAT whether it’s 
timers or dealing with SIP, broken SIP ALG implementations, and on and on. (Not 
to mention port forwarding)  Or just create enough addresses that you don’t 
need it, I like that solution myself.  I think If I remember correctly IPv6 has 
enough addresses that one could assign an address to every hair on the head of 
every human on the planet and still have more addresses left over than you’ve 
used.:). But hey, the present IP system was only a prototype / proof of 
concept.  I think we can call it a success no?


> On May 12, 2017, at 10:57 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Exactly,
> 
> Lets face it, nat has uses currently but howe much simpler without it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 11:21 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
> 
> That seems to be the case.  IF anything, SIP over IPv6 should be less 
> complicated. No NAT for example.
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> I've not been in a situation to use SIP but did wonder about it for a
>> while,
>> 
>> Anyway is it not just a case of the SIP providers haven't yet updated to 
>> allow for IP V6 intergration or useage?
>> 
>> They're going to have to sooner rather than later
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
>> 
>> I smell a business opportunity.  Some googling seems ti indicate the
>> provider you listed and someone called flowroute.  THere’s tons of
>> documentation on the advantages of SIP over IPv6 and lots of people
>> convincing you to do it, especially on the enterprise side but no
>> providers offering the service.:)
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting your comments on fail2ban.  Incredible PBX comes with both V4 
>> and V6 rules included and it looked to me like fail2ban could update either 
>> but your unix mojo is strong so I’ll differ to you on that subject.
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 11:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott:
>>> 
>>> Just a quick point to your email ...
>>> 
>>> I believe fail2ban only works with IPv4.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Personally, if I could disable listening for incoming SIP on Ipv4,
>>> I'd do so in a heartbeat. But for reasons I don't understand, the
>>> world of SIP to PSTN gateways is entirely IPv4. Therefore, I have no
>>> choice but to listen for SIP on 4, since I do want to be able to call
>>> to, and recieve calls from, the PSTN.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Caveat to the above ... There is one provider that supports SIP over
>>> 6,
>>> namely:
>>> 
>>> http://callwithus.com
>>> 
>>> Friends who know their stuff have had good experience with
>>> them--clearly on a personal level. However, they don't support LNP,
>>> which kills a move to Call with Us for me as I don't want to
>>> reconfigure with all new phone numbers.
>>> 
>>> Every few months I cast about for a SIP gateway service supporting 6,
>>> but I've been disappointed to date.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Scott Granados writes:
 Ok, few points here.
 
 First, as a network engineer, everyone I work with and know prefers V6 by 
 a long shot.  The finding of individual addresses is no harder on V6 than 
 V4, you can display your Mac table the same way.  The routers usually have 
 separate V4 and V6 RIBS as well so your V4 doesn’t mix with your V6 and 
 your MPLS VPN routes are yet again separate etc.  You use the same BGP and 
 filtering mechanisms as V4 so that translates pretty nicely.
One thing you can do in the notation is all the 0 fields can be 
 represented with 2 :: marks.  Something like 
 2001:4860:4860:::::1001 can be expressed as 
 2001:4860:4860::1001.  The zeros need to be in contiguous blocks however 
 and you can only do the substitution once per address block.
The auto configuration feature is nice also.  You don’t necessarily 
 need to run a DHCP server to have machines self address which is very nice.
I’ve never had problems banning IP addresses in V6 form but I’ve used 
 more advanced methods like RTBH using URPF loose mode and changing the 
 next hop to null 0 by using BGP communities or with BGP flow spec where 
 you craft a firewall filter based on the specific address and publish that 
 to your edge routers as part of the BGP session.
 
 
 Fail2Ban is quite good.  My understanding is though it works with IP 
 tables so you’d use both.  When fail2ban jails an IP it drops an entry in 
 the 

Re: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Scott Granados]

I suspect that even though the development was done up there some regulation in 
the way.  Canada is known to be hard to deal with when it comes to 
telecommunications.  You all are tops when it comes to researching drones:) but 
telecommunications your government is a bit hard to deal with since they are in 
the communications game themselves.  I always liked working with Rogers though 
to be fair.  They were very good at what they did, were good network peers and 
never caused me any headaches and nice people to boot although in general 
that’s been my impression of our neighbors to the north, extremely friendly and 
interesting.  We won’t talk about working with Bell though, yowza!



> On May 12, 2017, at 9:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Well is not that cool...canooks rising!
> Anyway, Shawn who is your provider?  It does not make sense indeed given 
> amazon  did the last testing for that  service at the University of Waterloo 
> in Ontario.
> Perhaps something from your provider is preventing the  work?
> Just a likely nonsensical idea,
> Kare in Toronto.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 May 2017, David Diamond wrote:
> 
>> You live in Canada?  You poor thing.  AAA.  LOL. For the record, I live in 
>> Western Canada, the wet coast.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:22 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting
>> 
>> Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am 
>> eager to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate 
>> tabs don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because 
>> someone in Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. 
>> Anyway, I wanna try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any 
>> apps for iOS that'll let me send and receive texts from a US number. I only 
>> need this so I can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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Re: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Helga Schreiber]

Hey Shawn. How are you? Have you tried this app Text Me. This is an app  that 
you can crate your number.  You can find it on the App   store. I don't hv eit, 
but that could work. Let me know if it does? Hope this helps! Or if you hve 
Whatsapp that could wwrok. But you can use text me as well! Since you can 
create number. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much!

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> On May 12, 2017, at 9:24 PM, David Diamond  wrote:
> 
> You live in Canada?  You poor thing.  AAA.  LOL. For the record, I live in 
> Western Canada, the wet coast.   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:22 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting
> 
> Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am 
> eager to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate 
> tabs don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because 
> someone in Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. 
> Anyway, I wanna try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any 
> apps for iOS that'll let me send and receive texts from a US number. I only 
> need this so I can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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RE: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Simon Fogarty]

Exactly,

Lets face it, nat has uses currently but howe much simpler without it.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 11:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

That seems to be the case.  IF anything, SIP over IPv6 should be less 
complicated. No NAT for example.

> On May 12, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I've not been in a situation to use SIP but did wonder about it for a 
> while,
> 
> Anyway is it not just a case of the SIP providers haven't yet updated to 
> allow for IP V6 intergration or useage?
> 
> They're going to have to sooner rather than later
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
> 
> I smell a business opportunity.  Some googling seems ti indicate the 
> provider you listed and someone called flowroute.  THere’s tons of 
> documentation on the advantages of SIP over IPv6 and lots of people 
> convincing you to do it, especially on the enterprise side but no 
> providers offering the service.:)
> 
> 
> Interesting your comments on fail2ban.  Incredible PBX comes with both V4 and 
> V6 rules included and it looked to me like fail2ban could update either but 
> your unix mojo is strong so I’ll differ to you on that subject.
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 11:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott:
>> 
>> Just a quick point to your email ...
>> 
>> I believe fail2ban only works with IPv4.
>> 
>> 
>> Personally, if I could disable listening for incoming SIP on Ipv4, 
>> I'd do so in a heartbeat. But for reasons I don't understand, the 
>> world of SIP to PSTN gateways is entirely IPv4. Therefore, I have no 
>> choice but to listen for SIP on 4, since I do want to be able to call 
>> to, and recieve calls from, the PSTN.
>> 
>> 
>> Caveat to the above ... There is one provider that supports SIP over 
>> 6,
>> namely:
>> 
>> http://callwithus.com
>> 
>> Friends who know their stuff have had good experience with 
>> them--clearly on a personal level. However, they don't support LNP, 
>> which kills a move to Call with Us for me as I don't want to 
>> reconfigure with all new phone numbers.
>> 
>> Every few months I cast about for a SIP gateway service supporting 6, 
>> but I've been disappointed to date.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Scott Granados writes:
>>> Ok, few points here.
>>> 
>>> First, as a network engineer, everyone I work with and know prefers V6 by a 
>>> long shot.  The finding of individual addresses is no harder on V6 than V4, 
>>> you can display your Mac table the same way.  The routers usually have 
>>> separate V4 and V6 RIBS as well so your V4 doesn’t mix with your V6 and 
>>> your MPLS VPN routes are yet again separate etc.  You use the same BGP and 
>>> filtering mechanisms as V4 so that translates pretty nicely.
>>> One thing you can do in the notation is all the 0 fields can be 
>>> represented with 2 :: marks.  Something like 
>>> 2001:4860:4860:::::1001 can be expressed as 
>>> 2001:4860:4860::1001.  The zeros need to be in contiguous blocks however 
>>> and you can only do the substitution once per address block.
>>> The auto configuration feature is nice also.  You don’t necessarily 
>>> need to run a DHCP server to have machines self address which is very nice.
>>> I’ve never had problems banning IP addresses in V6 form but I’ve used 
>>> more advanced methods like RTBH using URPF loose mode and changing the next 
>>> hop to null 0 by using BGP communities or with BGP flow spec where you 
>>> craft a firewall filter based on the specific address and publish that to 
>>> your edge routers as part of the BGP session.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fail2Ban is quite good.  My understanding is though it works with IP tables 
>>> so you’d use both.  When fail2ban jails an IP it drops an entry in the 
>>> specific section of the IP tables rules.
>>> 
>>> Admittedly though, I am a network engineer first and a decent unix guy 
>>> second but my strongest skills are around routing and switching so I could 
>>> be a little off with the systems level stuff.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
 
 Good day list,
 Most System Admin's, myself included, prefer IPV4 because it's a lot of 
 what most provider's support, plus tracking down machine's that utilize 
 IPV4 tends to be less stress on us.
 As far as IPV6 masks, they come in the form of 
 letter:number:lettter:number, so banning them can be quite difficult, if 
 not next to impossible, in certain situations.
 I do both 

RE: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Karen Lewellen]

Well is not that cool...canooks rising!
Anyway, Shawn who is your provider?  It does not make sense indeed given 
amazon  did the last testing for that  service at the University of 
Waterloo in Ontario.

Perhaps something from your provider is preventing the  work?
Just a likely nonsensical idea,
Kare in Toronto.


On Fri, 12 May 2017, David Diamond wrote:


You live in Canada?  You poor thing.  AAA.  LOL. For the record, I live in 
Western Canada, the wet coast.

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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:22 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am eager 
to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate tabs 
don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because someone in 
Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. Anyway, I wanna 
try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any apps for iOS 
that'll let me send and receive texts from a US number. I only need this so I 
can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?

Shawn
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RE: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[David Diamond]

You live in Canada?  You poor thing.  AAA.  LOL. For the record, I live in 
Western Canada, the wet coast.   

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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:22 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am eager 
to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate tabs 
don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because someone in 
Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. Anyway, I wanna 
try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any apps for iOS 
that'll let me send and receive texts from a US number. I only need this so I 
can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?

Shawn
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Re: Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Scott Granados]

Yeah, use my number and I’ll read you the text.;)

Or set up a google voice account that should work.  If not that, what about 
Hotwire?

> On May 12, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am 
> eager to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate 
> tabs don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because 
> someone in Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. 
> Anyway, I wanna try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any 
> apps for iOS that'll let me send and receive texts from a US number. I only 
> need this so I can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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Re: Does anyone know how I can link my Twitter and Facebook accounts so I can simultaneously post to both?

[Des Delgadillo]

Install the Selective Tweets app through Facebook:
https://apps.facebook.com/selectivetwitter/ 


Enter your Twitter screen name and you’re all done. Any tweets you send out 
that contain the #FB hashtag will also post to Facebook.

HTH,

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> On May 12, 2017, at 2:42 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all 
> 
> Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm hoping someone might know the answer to 
> this/be able to help me. I have a Twitter and a Facebook account, and I'd 
> like to be able to link the 2 so that I can simultaneously post to both. I'm 
> using IOS. A friend told me that it was possible, and gave me the name of an 
> app, TweetCaster, but when I downloaded it I found it terribly inaccessible 
> with VoiceOver. I then tried to look up how to do it online, and managed to 
> totally confuse myself with all the different methods that came up. So I was 
> wondering if anyone knew/could tell me of the best way/how I can go about 
> linking my 2 accounts? Do I need to do it through websites?, or is there a 
> more accessible app that will allow me to do so? 
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can give. 
> 
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Apps That Will Produce US Phone Numbers for Calls and Texting

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey guys. Now that Amazon has come out with Alexa to Alexa Calling, I am eager 
to try it out. However, I guess because I'm in Canada, the appropriate tabs 
don't appear so I can enable this feature, which is funny because someone in 
Australia has enabled it just fine so it doesn't make sense. Anyway, I wanna 
try to nip this problem in the butt, so I'm looking for any apps for iOS 
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can get that thing to work. Any suggestions?

Shawn
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Re: Reading emails on iPad?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Alex,
The short answer is, you can't. It doesn't work on the iPad like it does on the 
phone and it's a darn shame. Writing to Apple accessibility is all I can 
suggest. I have done it numerous times to absolutely no avail but maybe will be 
luckier. Good luck. I hate reading mail on the iPad.
Mary
 

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> On May 12, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I'm teaching someone to use their new iPad with VO. On my phone, I double tap 
> an email, 2-finger swipe up or down, and hear the message. On the iPad, 
> though, I've found it reads every button and header before the message. How 
> can I get the iPad to read messages like the phone does? Explaining to 
> someone new to VO that they have to touch the right place or swipe ten times 
> just to read a message isn't exactly confidence-inspiring. Thanks for any 
> ideas.
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Reading emails on iPad?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I'm teaching someone to use their new iPad with VO. On my phone, I double tap 
an email, 2-finger swipe up or down, and hear the message. On the iPad, though, 
I've found it reads every button and header before the message. How can I get 
the iPad to read messages like the phone does? Explaining to someone new to VO 
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Does anyone know how I can link my Twitter and Facebook accounts so I can simultaneously post to both?

['Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all 

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm hoping someone might know the answer to 
this/be able to help me. I have a Twitter and a Facebook account, and I'd like 
to be able to link the 2 so that I can simultaneously post to both. I'm using 
IOS. A friend told me that it was possible, and gave me the name of an app, 
TweetCaster, but when I downloaded it I found it terribly inaccessible with 
VoiceOver. I then tried to look up how to do it online, and managed to totally 
confuse myself with all the different methods that came up. So I was wondering 
if anyone knew/could tell me of the best way/how I can go about linking my 2 
accounts? Do I need to do it through websites?, or is there a more accessible 
app that will allow me to do so? 

Thanks for any help anyone can give. 

Eleanor

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PayPal question

[Laura Bratton]

Hi all,
I need help with PayPal. When I am trying to transfer money from my PayPal 
account to my banking  account I am not able to do this with vo.  I can get to 
the place where I need to select the to and from but that part is not 
accessible. Does anyone have experience with this? Is there any workarounds 
anyone has found?
Thank you for the help,
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Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Scott Granados]

Well everything is standardized I mean IPv6 is well defined by RFC.  What most 
carriers are doing is deploying in a dual stack mode.  Big parts of the network 
are converted although your right there’s a lot to go.  All your major backbone 
providers have been exchanging V6 for years now, the cell carriers are well 
underway converting as well.  I believe Verizon and T-Mobile are fully 
converted and if we could only get Verizon to switch over FIOS to native V6 
there whole network would be converted.  (DSL and business are already V6 
compliant)
If you enable V6 you’d be surprised how much that’s used now over V4.  
Most consumers will convert over and never even know.  Comcast users have had 
V6 for 5 years or so now and most don’t know.  It just happens with a router 
update as far as the consumer is concerned and most operating systems are ready 
to accept V6 when enabled.  Really there’s no need for the end consumer to know 
or care as everything still works the same way. The average user doesn’t care 
if their DNS is resolved by 8.8.8.8 or 2001:4860:4860:: just as long as it 
works.;). It will take years to fully convert and probably decades before V4 
can be shut down but progress is definitely accelerating especially now that V4 
space is exhausted.  That’s the biggest motivator, we’re out of V4 space.




> On May 12, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
> I think the security implementation will take a while to get used to, 
> especially when you have consumers who may not understand how it fully works 
> completely.
> Regardless of what we are called, (System administrator, network 
> administrator, Network engineer), we all have our duties, which are, to keep 
> our clients and business is safe.
> Speaking from experience on my behalf, I can certainly see why my clients are 
> hesitant to take to the new IP implementation, but I also see the benefits as 
> well.
> I honestly hope though, that throughout the years the new IP implementation 
> will become standardized.
> It would be nice if all of the Internet providers would have a conference, to 
> talk about the IP implementation, and how it would greatly reduce security 
> risks, etc. This way, the implementation could be adopted faster. I guess 
> that's hoping though, at least.
> The best thing that we as either engineers or administrators can do, in the 
> long run, is roll out the implementation on our own servers, and those of our 
> clients as well, this way we all can benefit from it.
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Re: Selecting an application in audio hijack

[Michael Marshall]

ahh, thanks for this.
> On 12 May 2017, at 11:02 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> I wrote a complete guide to Audio Hijack for VO users. It will explain 
> everything far better than I could in an email, and includes links to a 
> podcast and the official website. Here's the link:
> https://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps-voiceover/guide-using-audio-hijack-voiceover
>  
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 12, 2017, at 06:44, Michael Marshall  > wrote:
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>> Why does this program have all these recording block things anyway?
>> What is the point of them?
>> Will most likely be buying at some point.
>>> On 12 May 2017, at 8:32 pm, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> If vo-space on the application recording block does nothing, just interact 
>>> with it and locate the list of apps there. I don't remember which kind of 
>>> block it is, but any block that has no popover can be interacted with 
>>> instead.
>>> 
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>>> 
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 Hello,
 I’m trying to record audio from a single application but can’t figure out 
 how to select the app.  How do I get a list of apps to pick from?
 
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Re: Slow download speeds with iTunes on a network USB drive

[Scott Granados]

Tell me about your setup more.  What type of Mac, how far is the Mac from the 
8500, what sharing protocol are you using are using native iTunes support or 
the pro share option.  If you’re on your Mac connected can you select the WiFi 
extended options by selecting WiFi while holding down option and tell me what 
your TX rate, channel and noise / signal DB readings are?

Here’s another test, could you attach the Mac to a wired port and do a 
comparable test to see whether the problem is WiFi related or something further 
up the stack?

Thanks and BTW I have the exact setup.  I use an 8500 running native Netgear 
software (1.2.0.94 I believe) and I’m using directly attached network storage 
instead of the built in USB option so there’s a little difference.  Be glad to 
help though if I can.

Thanks

> On May 12, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen  wrote:
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> Hi, all.
> I haven’t posted to this list before, but thought I’d see if you guys had any 
> ideas.
> I have a netgear 8500 night hawk router with an 8TB USB 3 drive connected to 
> the USB3 port on the side of the router.
> I am trying to have a universal network drive which I can access from my Mac 
> and from my windows computer.
> Transfer with the PC seems to be OK, but when downloading a purchased movie 
> or TV show using iTunes on my Mac, download speed is painfully slow. One TV 
> showmight take as long as 4 hours.
> I don’t see anything under Mac or iTunes preferences that I can change to 
> help with this situation.
> Is there anything I need to set on the router under the USB settings that 
> would make iTunes downloads faster?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Verizon FIOS releases full gigabit service

[Scott Granados]

For anyone interested in a Verizon FIOS service area, Verizon just released 
Gigabit service.  Service includes a full gigabit up and down and with the new 
incentives is about half the price of 500 megabit service.  For example my bill 
just dropped 200 dollars by switching and committing for 2 years.  ETF is only 
$230 with in 24 months and the cost savings were high enough I didn’t end up 
canceling the television service.  Just wanted to give folks the heads up if 
you are a customer and had wanted to either cut the cord or up your speed.

Thanks

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Slow download speeds with iTunes on a network USB drive

[Paul Henrichsen]

Hi, all.
I haven't posted to this list before, but thought I'd see if you guys had any 
ideas.
I have a netgear 8500 night hawk router with an 8TB USB 3 drive connected to 
the USB3 port on the side of the router.
I am trying to have a universal network drive which I can access from my Mac 
and from my windows computer.
Transfer with the PC seems to be OK, but when downloading a purchased movie or 
TV show using iTunes on my Mac, download speed is painfully slow. One TV 
showmight take as long as 4 hours.
I don't see anything under Mac or iTunes preferences that I can change to help 
with this situation.
Is there anything I need to set on the router under the USB settings that would 
make iTunes downloads faster?
Thanks.


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Getting past registration with Kindle app from Amazon site

[Kat DeNicola]

Hi. I found many past threads about using Kindle on mac, but not much on 
getting past the registration screen which seems to be completely 
inaccessible--voiceover speaks nothing. According to the KNFB reader, 
though, it seems to consist of simple fields for user name and password. 
Has anyone gotten past this without sighted assistance? Is there a 
work-around using the Amazon site somehow?

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Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Daniel C]

I think the security implementation will take a while to get used to, 
especially when you have consumers who may not understand how it fully works 
completely.
Regardless of what we are called, (System administrator, network administrator, 
Network engineer), we all have our duties, which are, to keep our clients and 
business is safe.
Speaking from experience on my behalf, I can certainly see why my clients are 
hesitant to take to the new IP implementation, but I also see the benefits as 
well.
I honestly hope though, that throughout the years the new IP implementation 
will become standardized.
It would be nice if all of the Internet providers would have a conference, to 
talk about the IP implementation, and how it would greatly reduce security 
risks, etc. This way, the implementation could be adopted faster. I guess 
that's hoping though, at least.
The best thing that we as either engineers or administrators can do, in the 
long run, is roll out the implementation on our own servers, and those of our 
clients as well, this way we all can benefit from it.

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RE: Uber app question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Oh, sorry! See where I am going.

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Hi Sarai:

DO you want someone to see where you are or sharing your trip money?

On 5/11/17, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
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> I took an Uber trip this morning, and I couldn't figure out how to 
> have someone follow my trip. I was able to choose the people who I 
> wanted to follow, but couldn't find a done or a send button. There was 
> just a back button. Any ideas on how to do this?
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Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Scott Granados]

You make a good point.  There’s a lot of security features included now.

I do think you’re right, I think some of it is fear or lack of 
understanding.  I always thought Hurricane Electric offering their tunnel 
broker service ws a brilliant idea especially combined with the online training 
they offer.  Once you get engineers like us and consumers in general playing 
around with the technology you’ll ease some of that concern.
> On May 12, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
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> Well I certainly hope that providers will start to support IPV6, As it would 
> make security that much better in the long run.
> My point for even writing, or replying, was just the state for my clients, 
> they prefer IPV4, Meanwhile they don't realize the benefits of the new IP 
> implementation, So I am trying to work on that with them.
> I think for my clients, I will certainly work on implementing the new IP 
> implementation for sure.
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Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Daniel C]

Well I certainly hope that providers will start to support IPV6, As it would 
make security that much better in the long run.
My point for even writing, or replying, was just the state for my clients, they 
prefer IPV4, Meanwhile they don't realize the benefits of the new IP 
implementation, So I am trying to work on that with them.
I think for my clients, I will certainly work on implementing the new IP 
implementation for sure.

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Re: Selecting an application in audio hijack

[Alex Hall]

I wrote a complete guide to Audio Hijack for VO users. It will explain 
everything far better than I could in an email, and includes links to a podcast 
and the official website. Here's the link:
https://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps-voiceover/guide-using-audio-hijack-voiceover

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> On May 12, 2017, at 06:44, Michael Marshall  wrote:
> 
> Why does this program have all these recording block things anyway?
> What is the point of them?
> Will most likely be buying at some point.
>> On 12 May 2017, at 8:32 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> If vo-space on the application recording block does nothing, just interact 
>> with it and locate the list of apps there. I don't remember which kind of 
>> block it is, but any block that has no popover can be interacted with 
>> instead.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 21:55, Chris Moore  wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>> I’m trying to record audio from a single application but can’t figure out 
>>> how to select the app.  How do I get a list of apps to pick from?
>>> 
>>> Chris
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Re: Uber app question

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Sarai:

DO you want someone to see where you are or sharing your trip money?

On 5/11/17, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
> Hi guys:
> I took an Uber trip this morning, and I couldn't figure out how to have
> someone follow my trip. I was able to choose the people who I wanted to
> follow, but couldn't find a done or a send button. There was just a back
> button. Any ideas on how to do this?
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Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Scott Granados]

That seems to be the case.  IF anything, SIP over IPv6 should be less 
complicated. No NAT for example.

> On May 12, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I've not been in a situation to use SIP but did wonder about it for a while,
> 
> Anyway is it not just a case of the SIP providers haven't yet updated to 
> allow for IP V6 intergration or useage?
> 
> They're going to have to sooner rather than later
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
> 
> I smell a business opportunity.  Some googling seems ti indicate the provider 
> you listed and someone called flowroute.  THere’s tons of documentation on 
> the advantages of SIP over IPv6 and lots of people convincing you to do it, 
> especially on the enterprise side but no providers offering the service.:)
> 
> 
> Interesting your comments on fail2ban.  Incredible PBX comes with both V4 and 
> V6 rules included and it looked to me like fail2ban could update either but 
> your unix mojo is strong so I’ll differ to you on that subject.
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 11:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott:
>> 
>> Just a quick point to your email ...
>> 
>> I believe fail2ban only works with IPv4.
>> 
>> 
>> Personally, if I could disable listening for incoming SIP on Ipv4, I'd
>> do so in a heartbeat. But for reasons I don't understand, the world of
>> SIP to PSTN gateways is entirely IPv4. Therefore, I have no choice but
>> to listen for SIP on 4, since I do want to be able to call to, and
>> recieve calls from, the PSTN.
>> 
>> 
>> Caveat to the above ... There is one provider that supports SIP over
>> 6,
>> namely:
>> 
>> http://callwithus.com
>> 
>> Friends who know their stuff have had good experience with
>> them--clearly on a personal level. However, they don't support LNP,
>> which kills a move to Call with Us for me as I don't want to
>> reconfigure with all new phone numbers.
>> 
>> Every few months I cast about for a SIP gateway service supporting 6,
>> but I've been disappointed to date.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Scott Granados writes:
>>> Ok, few points here.
>>> 
>>> First, as a network engineer, everyone I work with and know prefers V6 by a 
>>> long shot.  The finding of individual addresses is no harder on V6 than V4, 
>>> you can display your Mac table the same way.  The routers usually have 
>>> separate V4 and V6 RIBS as well so your V4 doesn’t mix with your V6 and 
>>> your MPLS VPN routes are yet again separate etc.  You use the same BGP and 
>>> filtering mechanisms as V4 so that translates pretty nicely.
>>> One thing you can do in the notation is all the 0 fields can be 
>>> represented with 2 :: marks.  Something like 
>>> 2001:4860:4860:::::1001 can be expressed as 
>>> 2001:4860:4860::1001.  The zeros need to be in contiguous blocks however 
>>> and you can only do the substitution once per address block.
>>> The auto configuration feature is nice also.  You don’t necessarily 
>>> need to run a DHCP server to have machines self address which is very nice.
>>> I’ve never had problems banning IP addresses in V6 form but I’ve used 
>>> more advanced methods like RTBH using URPF loose mode and changing the next 
>>> hop to null 0 by using BGP communities or with BGP flow spec where you 
>>> craft a firewall filter based on the specific address and publish that to 
>>> your edge routers as part of the BGP session.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fail2Ban is quite good.  My understanding is though it works with IP tables 
>>> so you’d use both.  When fail2ban jails an IP it drops an entry in the 
>>> specific section of the IP tables rules.
>>> 
>>> Admittedly though, I am a network engineer first and a decent unix guy 
>>> second but my strongest skills are around routing and switching so I could 
>>> be a little off with the systems level stuff.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
 
 Good day list,
 Most System Admin's, myself included, prefer IPV4 because it's a lot of 
 what most provider's support, plus tracking down machine's that utilize 
 IPV4 tends to be less stress on us.
 As far as IPV6 masks, they come in the form of 
 letter:number:lettter:number, so banning them can be quite difficult, if 
 not next to impossible, in certain situations.
 I do both Network and server administration and have been doing so for at 
 least 10 to 15 year's, and I can say that by using either IPTables and/or 
 Fail2ban, they both have strength's and weaknesses, though if it were me, 
 I like fail2ban myself. As IPTables gets the job done, it's rarely updated 
 at least on CentOS, while Fail2ban happens to be 

Re: Selecting an application in audio hijack

[Michael Marshall]

Why does this program have all these recording block things anyway?
What is the point of them?
Will most likely be buying at some point.
> On 12 May 2017, at 8:32 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> If vo-space on the application recording block does nothing, just interact 
> with it and locate the list of apps there. I don't remember which kind of 
> block it is, but any block that has no popover can be interacted with instead.
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 21:55, Chris Moore > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I’m trying to record audio from a single application but can’t figure out 
>> how to select the app.  How do I get a list of apps to pick from?
>> 
>> Chris
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Re: Selecting an application in audio hijack

[Alex Hall]

If vo-space on the application recording block does nothing, just interact with 
it and locate the list of apps there. I don't remember which kind of block it 
is, but any block that has no popover can be interacted with instead.

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> On May 11, 2017, at 21:55, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I’m trying to record audio from a single application but can’t figure out how 
> to select the app.  How do I get a list of apps to pick from?
> 
> Chris
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RE: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

[Simon Fogarty]

I've not been in a situation to use SIP but did wonder about it for a while,

Anyway is it not just a case of the SIP providers haven't yet updated to allow 
for IP V6 intergration or useage?

They're going to have to sooner rather than later 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?

I smell a business opportunity.  Some googling seems ti indicate the provider 
you listed and someone called flowroute.  THere’s tons of documentation on the 
advantages of SIP over IPv6 and lots of people convincing you to do it, 
especially on the enterprise side but no providers offering the service.:)


Interesting your comments on fail2ban.  Incredible PBX comes with both V4 and 
V6 rules included and it looked to me like fail2ban could update either but 
your unix mojo is strong so I’ll differ to you on that subject.

> On May 11, 2017, at 11:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Scott:
> 
> Just a quick point to your email ...
> 
> I believe fail2ban only works with IPv4.
> 
> 
> Personally, if I could disable listening for incoming SIP on Ipv4, I'd 
> do so in a heartbeat. But for reasons I don't understand, the world of 
> SIP to PSTN gateways is entirely IPv4. Therefore, I have no choice but 
> to listen for SIP on 4, since I do want to be able to call to, and 
> recieve calls from, the PSTN.
> 
> 
> Caveat to the above ... There is one provider that supports SIP over 
> 6,
> namely:
> 
> http://callwithus.com
> 
> Friends who know their stuff have had good experience with 
> them--clearly on a personal level. However, they don't support LNP, 
> which kills a move to Call with Us for me as I don't want to 
> reconfigure with all new phone numbers.
> 
> Every few months I cast about for a SIP gateway service supporting 6, 
> but I've been disappointed to date.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Scott Granados writes:
>> Ok, few points here.
>> 
>> First, as a network engineer, everyone I work with and know prefers V6 by a 
>> long shot.  The finding of individual addresses is no harder on V6 than V4, 
>> you can display your Mac table the same way.  The routers usually have 
>> separate V4 and V6 RIBS as well so your V4 doesn’t mix with your V6 and your 
>> MPLS VPN routes are yet again separate etc.  You use the same BGP and 
>> filtering mechanisms as V4 so that translates pretty nicely.
>>  One thing you can do in the notation is all the 0 fields can be 
>> represented with 2 :: marks.  Something like 
>> 2001:4860:4860:::::1001 can be expressed as 
>> 2001:4860:4860::1001.  The zeros need to be in contiguous blocks however and 
>> you can only do the substitution once per address block.
>>  The auto configuration feature is nice also.  You don’t necessarily 
>> need to run a DHCP server to have machines self address which is very nice.
>>  I’ve never had problems banning IP addresses in V6 form but I’ve used 
>> more advanced methods like RTBH using URPF loose mode and changing the next 
>> hop to null 0 by using BGP communities or with BGP flow spec where you craft 
>> a firewall filter based on the specific address and publish that to your 
>> edge routers as part of the BGP session.
>> 
>> 
>> Fail2Ban is quite good.  My understanding is though it works with IP tables 
>> so you’d use both.  When fail2ban jails an IP it drops an entry in the 
>> specific section of the IP tables rules.
>> 
>> Admittedly though, I am a network engineer first and a decent unix guy 
>> second but my strongest skills are around routing and switching so I could 
>> be a little off with the systems level stuff.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good day list,
>>> Most System Admin's, myself included, prefer IPV4 because it's a lot of 
>>> what most provider's support, plus tracking down machine's that utilize 
>>> IPV4 tends to be less stress on us.
>>> As far as IPV6 masks, they come in the form of 
>>> letter:number:lettter:number, so banning them can be quite difficult, if 
>>> not next to impossible, in certain situations.
>>> I do both Network and server administration and have been doing so for at 
>>> least 10 to 15 year's, and I can say that by using either IPTables and/or 
>>> Fail2ban, they both have strength's and weaknesses, though if it were me, I 
>>> like fail2ban myself. As IPTables gets the job done, it's rarely updated at 
>>> least on CentOS, while Fail2ban happens to be updated quite a bit more 
>>> often. On cPanel server's, especially, Fail2ban ties into IP tables while 
>>> also providing it's own level of protection which I find to be nice.
>>> If I had a client server I, too, could pull a fail2ban config file, but I 
>>> don't have access right now to a