Re: terminal work

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
can I do this copy and paste deal with the destination as well?

I did try your other trick with the root account, but I got a bunch of stuff 
you didn’t mention, so got a little bogged down in all of it  For example, I 
couldn’t find where to edit things after I clicked on file analysis or whatever 
that is after you click join..

sorry, need more coffee..

Thanks!
Caitlyn


> On Oct 14, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In addition to Alex's comments, you will encounter the same issues you had in 
> the GUI since the level of authority of the user performing the move action 
> is still you.  You may wish to use the "sudo" command in front of the "mv" 
> command.  Also, a trick you can use to ensure you have the correct path in 
> Terminal, is to locate the file in the Finder, then use cmd-c to Copy it.  
> When you paste it into Terminal, it will actually paste the path, not the 
> contents.  So, it might say something lie
> 
> sudo mv /volumes/HD-2/Library/My\ Books target_location
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 14, 2017, at 17:24, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
> First, I think you need quotes if you're going to use paths with spaces. Put 
> each path--origin and destination--in quotes and see if that helps.
> 
> Second, if you want to move all the files and folders in origin, use the -R 
> flag (note that the R is capitalized).
> 
> Third, you start with Volumes. Unless you've already changed your directory 
> to slash, this will look for a folder called Volumes in the location you're 
> in. You probably want /Volumes (slash before Volumes) instead.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:50, Caitlyn Furness > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> so I’ve been trying to move files from one place to another with the 
>> terminal.  I am screwing this up royally, so any help would be great.  
>> Here’s what I’ve been typing:
>> 
>> mv Volumes/Library Disk /Volumes/My Book/books
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong, please?  This is trying to move files from one 
>> external drive to another via terminal..
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Cait
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Re: Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle syncing, more

[Caitlyn Furness]

So, I get the impression that twitterific is way more powerful and user 
friendly then Night Owl?

Cait


> On Oct 14, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alex. I am going to make the dive considering Twitterrific excellent 
> track record with accessibility. Thanks for the info.
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Having happily backed this project, and having used the betas since backers 
>> got them months ago, here are the differences I see.
>> 
>> * If you use Twitterrific for iOS, position syncing via iCloud works nearly 
>> perfectly. Tweet Marker has never worked once for me.
>> 
>> * Night Owl shows only short links in tweets, but Twitterrific shows real 
>> URLs, so you know what you're clicking.
>> 
>> * Press enter on a tweet with an image or video attached to open the media. 
>> Videos play, while, with 10.13, you can use vo-shift-l to get a description 
>> of the image. The app also recognizes image captions the tweet author adds.
>> 
>> * DMs are threaded, meaning no more scanning through tons of messages with 
>> one person to find a message from someone else.
>> 
>> * The company has shown dedication to accessibility through Twitterrific on 
>> iOS, and through making this new app accessible from the start. VO support 
>> was even a stated goal on their initial list when the project was released 
>> on Kickstarter.
>> 
>> * Quoted tweets are supported. You can read them, as well as write them.
>> 
>> * The company is active on Twitter and through email, taking questions and 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> * Muffle syncing means anything you mute on iOS or macOS syncs to the other 
>> platform automatically.
>> 
>> * The auto-complete feature for usernames actually works, whereas on Night 
>> Owl it either doesn't work or freezes everything.
>> 
>> * More I'm forgetting.
>> 
>> The things Night Owl has over Twitterrific that I can think of:
>> 
>> * Built-in support for read later services. On Twitterrific, you have to 
>> open a link and use your browser to save the page, rather than just a 
>> keystroke like in Night Owl.
>> 
>> * You can't create saved searches in Twitterrific, though the company says 
>> that feature is coming soon.
>> 
>> * Again, I'm probably forgetting some.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:10, Brian Fischler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all, very exciting about this, but can anyone let me know what the 
>>> benefit is to using this app over Night Owl which I currently use? Debating 
>>> the $20 is worth it. Thanks
>>> 
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 > wrote:
 
 Hello, have just purchased this app, love the iOS client so will love 
 this.,
 
> On 10 Oct 2017, at 16:53, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> Good news for Twitterrific lovers.
> 
> Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, 
> muffle syncing, more
> 9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall
> 
> 
> The Iconfactory has officially launched Twitterrific 5 for Mac after a 
> successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Phoenix earlier this year. 
> Twitterrific for macOS is a totally new version of the Twitter client 
> with a modern design that includes a dark theme, visual customization, 
> muffle/mute/timeline syncing to the iOS app, and more.
> 
> 
> Twitterrific for Mac has been effectively dead for the last few years as 
> the market shifted to iOS where Twitterrific 5 has experimented with 
> in-app purchases to remove ads and unlock features.
> 
> With Project Phoenix, however, The Iconfactory used crowdfunding to 
> ensure demand for a modern Mac client before devoting months of 
> development work to the project. Ultimately, the Kickstarter campaign 
> received $108,346 from 2,852 backers.
> 
> For users of Twitterrific for iOS, this launch means there’s finally a 
> modern version of their favorite Twitter client for the desktop again. 
> But even if you’re not yet a Twitterrific user, the interest in the new 
> app existing is both good news for the Mac as a platform as well as the 
> Mac Twitter client competition (which Twitter tries to prevent without 
> maintaining its own app well).
> 
> Twitterrific lets you choose between two themes (light and dark), a 
> handful of fonts including Menlo (shown below), nine text sizes ranging 
> from Tiny to CHOCK, and three media thumbnail options.
> 
> 
> 
> Changing between light and dark theme also changes the window color for 
> menus even if you’re not using the basic ‘Use dark menu bar and Dock’ 
> preference which is a nice touch, and media opens in a 

Re: Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle syncing, more

[Alex Hall]

Good point. Yes, they do sync, I believe. I almost never use saved searches so 
can't talk about this in much detail, but I do recall seeing a table of saved 
searches alongside the search field when I hit cmd-shift-f to do a global find.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 19:52, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex, I haven't got this app yet although I intend to once I get around to 
> updating my Mac. Shutter. Anyway, if you do save searches in the iOS app, 
> which certainly is possible, they don't sync across?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Having happily backed this project, and having used the betas since backers 
>> got them months ago, here are the differences I see.
>> 
>> * If you use Twitterrific for iOS, position syncing via iCloud works nearly 
>> perfectly. Tweet Marker has never worked once for me.
>> 
>> * Night Owl shows only short links in tweets, but Twitterrific shows real 
>> URLs, so you know what you're clicking.
>> 
>> * Press enter on a tweet with an image or video attached to open the media. 
>> Videos play, while, with 10.13, you can use vo-shift-l to get a description 
>> of the image. The app also recognizes image captions the tweet author adds.
>> 
>> * DMs are threaded, meaning no more scanning through tons of messages with 
>> one person to find a message from someone else.
>> 
>> * The company has shown dedication to accessibility through Twitterrific on 
>> iOS, and through making this new app accessible from the start. VO support 
>> was even a stated goal on their initial list when the project was released 
>> on Kickstarter.
>> 
>> * Quoted tweets are supported. You can read them, as well as write them.
>> 
>> * The company is active on Twitter and through email, taking questions and 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> * Muffle syncing means anything you mute on iOS or macOS syncs to the other 
>> platform automatically.
>> 
>> * The auto-complete feature for usernames actually works, whereas on Night 
>> Owl it either doesn't work or freezes everything.
>> 
>> * More I'm forgetting.
>> 
>> The things Night Owl has over Twitterrific that I can think of:
>> 
>> * Built-in support for read later services. On Twitterrific, you have to 
>> open a link and use your browser to save the page, rather than just a 
>> keystroke like in Night Owl.
>> 
>> * You can't create saved searches in Twitterrific, though the company says 
>> that feature is coming soon.
>> 
>> * Again, I'm probably forgetting some.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:10, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all, very exciting about this, but can anyone let me know what the 
>>> benefit is to using this app over Night Owl which I currently use? Debating 
>>> the $20 is worth it. Thanks
>>> 
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, christopher hallsworth 
  wrote:
 
 Hello, have just purchased this app, love the iOS client so will love 
 this.,
 
> On 10 Oct 2017, at 16:53, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Good news for Twitterrific lovers.
> 
> Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, 
> muffle syncing, more
> 9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall
> 
> 
> The Iconfactory has officially launched Twitterrific 5 for Mac after a 
> successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Phoenix earlier this year. 
> Twitterrific for macOS is a totally new version of the Twitter client 
> with a modern design that includes a dark theme, visual customization, 
> muffle/mute/timeline syncing to the iOS app, and more.
> 
> 
> Twitterrific for Mac has been effectively dead for the last few years as 
> the market shifted to iOS where Twitterrific 5 has experimented with 
> in-app purchases to remove ads and unlock features.
> 
> With Project Phoenix, however, The Iconfactory used crowdfunding to 
> ensure demand for a modern Mac client before devoting months of 
> development work to the project. Ultimately, the Kickstarter campaign 
> received $108,346 from 2,852 backers.
> 
> For users of Twitterrific for iOS, this launch means there’s finally a 
> modern version of their favorite Twitter client for the desktop again. 
> But even if you’re not yet a Twitterrific user, the interest in the new 
> app existing is both good news for the Mac as a platform as well as the 
> Mac Twitter client competition (which Twitter tries to prevent without 
> maintaining its own app well).
> 
> Twitterrific lets you choose between two themes (light and dark), a 
> handful of fonts including Menlo (shown below), nine text sizes ranging 
> from Tiny to CHOCK, and three media thumbnail options.
> 
> 
> 
> Changing between light and dark theme also changes the window color for 
> menus 

Re: terminal work

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In addition to Alex's comments, you will encounter the same issues you had in 
the GUI since the level of authority of the user performing the move action is 
still you.  You may wish to use the "sudo" command in front of the "mv" 
command.  Also, a trick you can use to ensure you have the correct path in 
Terminal, is to locate the file in the Finder, then use cmd-c to Copy it.  When 
you paste it into Terminal, it will actually paste the path, not the contents.  
So, it might say something lie

sudo mv /volumes/HD-2/Library/My\ Books target_location

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 17:24, Alex Hall  wrote:

First, I think you need quotes if you're going to use paths with spaces. Put 
each path--origin and destination--in quotes and see if that helps.

Second, if you want to move all the files and folders in origin, use the -R 
flag (note that the R is capitalized).

Third, you start with Volumes. Unless you've already changed your directory to 
slash, this will look for a folder called Volumes in the location you're in. 
You probably want /Volumes (slash before Volumes) instead.

--
Alex Hall




> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:50, Caitlyn Furness  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> so I’ve been trying to move files from one place to another with the 
> terminal.  I am screwing this up royally, so any help would be great.  Here’s 
> what I’ve been typing:
> 
> mv Volumes/Library Disk /Volumes/My Book/books
> 
> What am I doing wrong, please?  This is trying to move files from one 
> external drive to another via terminal..
> 
> Thanks!
> Cait
> 
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Re: Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle syncing, more

[Mary Otten]

Hi Alex, I haven't got this app yet although I intend to once I get around to 
updating my Mac. Shutter. Anyway, if you do save searches in the iOS app, which 
certainly is possible, they don't sync across?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Having happily backed this project, and having used the betas since backers 
> got them months ago, here are the differences I see.
> 
> * If you use Twitterrific for iOS, position syncing via iCloud works nearly 
> perfectly. Tweet Marker has never worked once for me.
> 
> * Night Owl shows only short links in tweets, but Twitterrific shows real 
> URLs, so you know what you're clicking.
> 
> * Press enter on a tweet with an image or video attached to open the media. 
> Videos play, while, with 10.13, you can use vo-shift-l to get a description 
> of the image. The app also recognizes image captions the tweet author adds.
> 
> * DMs are threaded, meaning no more scanning through tons of messages with 
> one person to find a message from someone else.
> 
> * The company has shown dedication to accessibility through Twitterrific on 
> iOS, and through making this new app accessible from the start. VO support 
> was even a stated goal on their initial list when the project was released on 
> Kickstarter.
> 
> * Quoted tweets are supported. You can read them, as well as write them.
> 
> * The company is active on Twitter and through email, taking questions and 
> suggestions.
> 
> * Muffle syncing means anything you mute on iOS or macOS syncs to the other 
> platform automatically.
> 
> * The auto-complete feature for usernames actually works, whereas on Night 
> Owl it either doesn't work or freezes everything.
> 
> * More I'm forgetting.
> 
> The things Night Owl has over Twitterrific that I can think of:
> 
> * Built-in support for read later services. On Twitterrific, you have to open 
> a link and use your browser to save the page, rather than just a keystroke 
> like in Night Owl.
> 
> * You can't create saved searches in Twitterrific, though the company says 
> that feature is coming soon.
> 
> * Again, I'm probably forgetting some.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:10, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all, very exciting about this, but can anyone let me know what the 
>> benefit is to using this app over Night Owl which I currently use? Debating 
>> the $20 is worth it. Thanks
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, have just purchased this app, love the iOS client so will love this.,
>>> 
 On 10 Oct 2017, at 16:53, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Good news for Twitterrific lovers.
 
 Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, 
 muffle syncing, more
 9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall
 
 
 The Iconfactory has officially launched Twitterrific 5 for Mac after a 
 successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Phoenix earlier this year. 
 Twitterrific for macOS is a totally new version of the Twitter client with 
 a modern design that includes a dark theme, visual customization, 
 muffle/mute/timeline syncing to the iOS app, and more.
 
 
 Twitterrific for Mac has been effectively dead for the last few years as 
 the market shifted to iOS where Twitterrific 5 has experimented with 
 in-app purchases to remove ads and unlock features.
 
 With Project Phoenix, however, The Iconfactory used crowdfunding to ensure 
 demand for a modern Mac client before devoting months of development work 
 to the project. Ultimately, the Kickstarter campaign received $108,346 
 from 2,852 backers.
 
 For users of Twitterrific for iOS, this launch means there’s finally a 
 modern version of their favorite Twitter client for the desktop again. But 
 even if you’re not yet a Twitterrific user, the interest in the new app 
 existing is both good news for the Mac as a platform as well as the Mac 
 Twitter client competition (which Twitter tries to prevent without 
 maintaining its own app well).
 
 Twitterrific lets you choose between two themes (light and dark), a 
 handful of fonts including Menlo (shown below), nine text sizes ranging 
 from Tiny to CHOCK, and three media thumbnail options.
 
 
 
 Changing between light and dark theme also changes the window color for 
 menus even if you’re not using the basic ‘Use dark menu bar and Dock’ 
 preference which is a nice touch, and media opens in a whimsical and fluid 
 popover with share options and even playback controls for video included.
 
 Twiterrific also includes VoiceOver support for navigating the timeline, 
 composing tweets, and the option to add a text description to images as a 
 fantastic accessibility feature.
 
 And like the iOS 

Re: Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle syncing, more

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks Alex. I am going to make the dive considering Twitterrific excellent 
track record with accessibility. Thanks for the info.

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Having happily backed this project, and having used the betas since backers 
> got them months ago, here are the differences I see.
> 
> * If you use Twitterrific for iOS, position syncing via iCloud works nearly 
> perfectly. Tweet Marker has never worked once for me.
> 
> * Night Owl shows only short links in tweets, but Twitterrific shows real 
> URLs, so you know what you're clicking.
> 
> * Press enter on a tweet with an image or video attached to open the media. 
> Videos play, while, with 10.13, you can use vo-shift-l to get a description 
> of the image. The app also recognizes image captions the tweet author adds.
> 
> * DMs are threaded, meaning no more scanning through tons of messages with 
> one person to find a message from someone else.
> 
> * The company has shown dedication to accessibility through Twitterrific on 
> iOS, and through making this new app accessible from the start. VO support 
> was even a stated goal on their initial list when the project was released on 
> Kickstarter.
> 
> * Quoted tweets are supported. You can read them, as well as write them.
> 
> * The company is active on Twitter and through email, taking questions and 
> suggestions.
> 
> * Muffle syncing means anything you mute on iOS or macOS syncs to the other 
> platform automatically.
> 
> * The auto-complete feature for usernames actually works, whereas on Night 
> Owl it either doesn't work or freezes everything.
> 
> * More I'm forgetting.
> 
> The things Night Owl has over Twitterrific that I can think of:
> 
> * Built-in support for read later services. On Twitterrific, you have to open 
> a link and use your browser to save the page, rather than just a keystroke 
> like in Night Owl.
> 
> * You can't create saved searches in Twitterrific, though the company says 
> that feature is coming soon.
> 
> * Again, I'm probably forgetting some.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:10, Brian Fischler > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all, very exciting about this, but can anyone let me know what the 
>> benefit is to using this app over Night Owl which I currently use? Debating 
>> the $20 is worth it. Thanks
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, have just purchased this app, love the iOS client so will love this.,
>>> 
 On 10 Oct 2017, at 16:53, Mary Otten > wrote:
 
 Good news for Twitterrific lovers.
 
 Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, 
 muffle syncing, more
 9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall
 
 
 The Iconfactory has officially launched Twitterrific 5 for Mac after a 
 successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Phoenix earlier this year. 
 Twitterrific for macOS is a totally new version of the Twitter client with 
 a modern design that includes a dark theme, visual customization, 
 muffle/mute/timeline syncing to the iOS app, and more.
 
 
 Twitterrific for Mac has been effectively dead for the last few years as 
 the market shifted to iOS where Twitterrific 5 has experimented with 
 in-app purchases to remove ads and unlock features.
 
 With Project Phoenix, however, The Iconfactory used crowdfunding to ensure 
 demand for a modern Mac client before devoting months of development work 
 to the project. Ultimately, the Kickstarter campaign received $108,346 
 from 2,852 backers.
 
 For users of Twitterrific for iOS, this launch means there’s finally a 
 modern version of their favorite Twitter client for the desktop again. But 
 even if you’re not yet a Twitterrific user, the interest in the new app 
 existing is both good news for the Mac as a platform as well as the Mac 
 Twitter client competition (which Twitter tries to prevent without 
 maintaining its own app well).
 
 Twitterrific lets you choose between two themes (light and dark), a 
 handful of fonts including Menlo (shown below), nine text sizes ranging 
 from Tiny to CHOCK, and three media thumbnail options.
 
 
 
 Changing between light and dark theme also changes the window color for 
 menus even if you’re not using the basic ‘Use dark menu bar and Dock’ 
 preference which is a nice touch, and media opens in a whimsical and fluid 
 popover with share options and even playback controls for video included.
 
 Twiterrific also includes VoiceOver support for navigating the timeline, 
 composing tweets, and the option to add a text description to images as a 
 fantastic accessibility feature.
 
 And like the iOS 

Re: Auto-mount DMG on boot?

[Alex Hall]

Tha's a great idea, thanks! I've set it up, but don't feel like fighting with 
File Vault to test it. Still, I'll see if it worked next time I restart. You're 
right, though, I see no reason it shouldn't I always forget about this option 
to start things on boot, since I have my Mac set to re-open everything I was 
doing when I shut it down.

--
Alex Hall




> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:19, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't see why this wouldn't work.  Go into System Prefs, Users & Groups.  
> Make sure that you've unlocked the padlock and that your user is selected in 
> the Users, Groups & Login Options table.  Select the Login Items tab, then 
> press the Add button.  In the Open dialog, press cmd-shift-i to access your 
> iCloud Drive and navigate to the dmg file and add it.  Make sure that the dmg 
> file is not mounted and this process should mount it.  This won't 
> automatically activate the VO Prefs, but should at least auto mount the dmg 
> for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 06:11, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> For quite a while now, I've kept my VO preferences on a DMG stored in my 
> iCloud Drive. This makes it very easy to use my prefs on beta drives or if I 
> switch Macs. The only problem is that I lose my prefs on boot until I mount 
> the DMG.
> 
> It's only a few steps (Finder, cmd-shift-i, type v o I to get to my disk, 
> cmd-o). Still, I'd like to automate this if I can, so the Mac mounts the disk 
> image on its own when it boots. I've had a look online, but the only thing I 
> found was about network drives or SMB shares, which I don't want. This is 
> just a locally stored DMG that I want to force to mount on boot. Any thoughts 
> or suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: terminal work

[Alex Hall]

First, I think you need quotes if you're going to use paths with spaces. Put 
each path--origin and destination--in quotes and see if that helps.

Second, if you want to move all the files and folders in origin, use the -R 
flag (note that the R is capitalized).

Third, you start with Volumes. Unless you've already changed your directory to 
slash, this will look for a folder called Volumes in the location you're in. 
You probably want /Volumes (slash before Volumes) instead.

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:50, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> so I’ve been trying to move files from one place to another with the 
> terminal.  I am screwing this up royally, so any help would be great.  Here’s 
> what I’ve been typing:
> 
> mv Volumes/Library Disk /Volumes/My Book/books
> 
> What am I doing wrong, please?  This is trying to move files from one 
> external drive to another via terminal..
> 
> Thanks!
> Cait
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Re: Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle syncing, more

[Alex Hall]

Having happily backed this project, and having used the betas since backers got 
them months ago, here are the differences I see.

* If you use Twitterrific for iOS, position syncing via iCloud works nearly 
perfectly. Tweet Marker has never worked once for me.

* Night Owl shows only short links in tweets, but Twitterrific shows real URLs, 
so you know what you're clicking.

* Press enter on a tweet with an image or video attached to open the media. 
Videos play, while, with 10.13, you can use vo-shift-l to get a description of 
the image. The app also recognizes image captions the tweet author adds.

* DMs are threaded, meaning no more scanning through tons of messages with one 
person to find a message from someone else.

* The company has shown dedication to accessibility through Twitterrific on 
iOS, and through making this new app accessible from the start. VO support was 
even a stated goal on their initial list when the project was released on 
Kickstarter.

* Quoted tweets are supported. You can read them, as well as write them.

* The company is active on Twitter and through email, taking questions and 
suggestions.

* Muffle syncing means anything you mute on iOS or macOS syncs to the other 
platform automatically.

* The auto-complete feature for usernames actually works, whereas on Night Owl 
it either doesn't work or freezes everything.

* More I'm forgetting.

The things Night Owl has over Twitterrific that I can think of:

* Built-in support for read later services. On Twitterrific, you have to open a 
link and use your browser to save the page, rather than just a keystroke like 
in Night Owl.

* You can't create saved searches in Twitterrific, though the company says that 
feature is coming soon.

* Again, I'm probably forgetting some.

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 18:10, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, very exciting about this, but can anyone let me know what the 
> benefit is to using this app over Night Owl which I currently use? Debating 
> the $20 is worth it. Thanks
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, christopher hallsworth > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, have just purchased this app, love the iOS client so will love this.,
>> 
>>> On 10 Oct 2017, at 16:53, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good news for Twitterrific lovers.
>>> 
>>> Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, 
>>> muffle syncing, more
>>> 9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Iconfactory has officially launched Twitterrific 5 for Mac after a 
>>> successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Phoenix earlier this year. 
>>> Twitterrific for macOS is a totally new version of the Twitter client with 
>>> a modern design that includes a dark theme, visual customization, 
>>> muffle/mute/timeline syncing to the iOS app, and more.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Twitterrific for Mac has been effectively dead for the last few years as 
>>> the market shifted to iOS where Twitterrific 5 has experimented with in-app 
>>> purchases to remove ads and unlock features.
>>> 
>>> With Project Phoenix, however, The Iconfactory used crowdfunding to ensure 
>>> demand for a modern Mac client before devoting months of development work 
>>> to the project. Ultimately, the Kickstarter campaign received $108,346 from 
>>> 2,852 backers.
>>> 
>>> For users of Twitterrific for iOS, this launch means there’s finally a 
>>> modern version of their favorite Twitter client for the desktop again. But 
>>> even if you’re not yet a Twitterrific user, the interest in the new app 
>>> existing is both good news for the Mac as a platform as well as the Mac 
>>> Twitter client competition (which Twitter tries to prevent without 
>>> maintaining its own app well).
>>> 
>>> Twitterrific lets you choose between two themes (light and dark), a handful 
>>> of fonts including Menlo (shown below), nine text sizes ranging from Tiny 
>>> to CHOCK, and three media thumbnail options.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Changing between light and dark theme also changes the window color for 
>>> menus even if you’re not using the basic ‘Use dark menu bar and Dock’ 
>>> preference which is a nice touch, and media opens in a whimsical and fluid 
>>> popover with share options and even playback controls for video included.
>>> 
>>> Twiterrific also includes VoiceOver support for navigating the timeline, 
>>> composing tweets, and the option to add a text description to images as a 
>>> fantastic accessibility feature.
>>> 
>>> And like the iOS version, Twitterrific 5 for macOS lets you quickly fix 
>>> typo tweets with an edit workaround that actually deletes the typo tweet 
>>> and replaces it with your edited version without manually copying and 
>>> pasting the tweet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here’s the full feature list for Twitterrific 5.0 for macOS:
>>> 
>>> •  Simple to use, easy to understand
>>> •  True multi-account/multi-window 

terminal work

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
so I’ve been trying to move files from one place to another with the terminal.  
I am screwing this up royally, so any help would be great.  Here’s what I’ve 
been typing:

mv Volumes/Library Disk /Volumes/My Book/books

What am I doing wrong, please?  This is trying to move files from one external 
drive to another via terminal..

Thanks!
Cait

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Re: Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle syncing, more

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all, very exciting about this, but can anyone let me know what the benefit 
is to using this app over Night Owl which I currently use? Debating the $20 is 
worth it. Thanks

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, have just purchased this app, love the iOS client so will love this.,
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2017, at 16:53, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Good news for Twitterrific lovers.
>> 
>> Twitterrific returns to the Mac as a modern Twitter client w/ themes, muffle 
>> syncing, more
>> 9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall
>> 
>> 
>> The Iconfactory has officially launched Twitterrific 5 for Mac after a 
>> successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Phoenix earlier this year. 
>> Twitterrific for macOS is a totally new version of the Twitter client with a 
>> modern design that includes a dark theme, visual customization, 
>> muffle/mute/timeline syncing to the iOS app, and more.
>> 
>> 
>> Twitterrific for Mac has been effectively dead for the last few years as the 
>> market shifted to iOS where Twitterrific 5 has experimented with in-app 
>> purchases to remove ads and unlock features.
>> 
>> With Project Phoenix, however, The Iconfactory used crowdfunding to ensure 
>> demand for a modern Mac client before devoting months of development work to 
>> the project. Ultimately, the Kickstarter campaign received $108,346 from 
>> 2,852 backers.
>> 
>> For users of Twitterrific for iOS, this launch means there’s finally a 
>> modern version of their favorite Twitter client for the desktop again. But 
>> even if you’re not yet a Twitterrific user, the interest in the new app 
>> existing is both good news for the Mac as a platform as well as the Mac 
>> Twitter client competition (which Twitter tries to prevent without 
>> maintaining its own app well).
>> 
>> Twitterrific lets you choose between two themes (light and dark), a handful 
>> of fonts including Menlo (shown below), nine text sizes ranging from Tiny to 
>> CHOCK, and three media thumbnail options.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Changing between light and dark theme also changes the window color for 
>> menus even if you’re not using the basic ‘Use dark menu bar and Dock’ 
>> preference which is a nice touch, and media opens in a whimsical and fluid 
>> popover with share options and even playback controls for video included.
>> 
>> Twiterrific also includes VoiceOver support for navigating the timeline, 
>> composing tweets, and the option to add a text description to images as a 
>> fantastic accessibility feature.
>> 
>> And like the iOS version, Twitterrific 5 for macOS lets you quickly fix typo 
>> tweets with an edit workaround that actually deletes the typo tweet and 
>> replaces it with your edited version without manually copying and pasting 
>> the tweet.
>> 
>> 
>> Here’s the full feature list for Twitterrific 5.0 for macOS:
>> 
>>  •  Simple to use, easy to understand
>>  •  True multi-account/multi-window support
>>  •  View mentions, messages, and favorites quickly and easily
>>  •  Timeline syncing of reading position across all platforms via iCloud
>>  •  System-wide alerts for mentions & direct messages via Notification 
>> Center
>>  •  Fully accessible via VoiceOver
>>  • Support for Retweet (RT) & Quoted tweets
>>  • Quick access to Emoji when composing new tweets
>>  •  Autocompletion of usernames & hashtags while editing tweets
>>  • View Twitter saved searches and lists
>>  • Check out global and local trending topics
>>  • Browse conversation threads between users
>>  • Support for tweet storms & chained tweet threads
>>  • Quickly Delete & Edit your own tweets
>>  • Translate tweets to your native language
>>  • Helpful color-coding of tweet types
>>  • In-app media viewing for images, animated GIFs, Instagram & more
>>  • Share a tweet with actions for email, Messages, Safari Reading List & 
>> more
>>  • Muffles & mutes synced from Twitterrific for iOS via iCloud
>>  • Robust in-app media viewer with detachable popovers
>>  • Customize the appearance of media in the timeline or hide it 
>> completely
>>  • View user profiles including past tweets, likes & mentions
>>  • Follow and unfollow other users directly from their user profile
>>  • Block and report spammers with a single click
>>  • Theme control (light or dark)
>>  • Font size & type face control
>>  • Robust keyboard control
>> Twitterrific 5 for macOS is available to purchase on the Mac App Store for 
>> $19.99 and runs on macOS 10.11 El Capitan or later.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/10/twitterrific-5-mac/ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Lois. Sorry you were thinking of a different program, perhaps the 
caliber program, which I believe is on both Windows and Mac.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> I stand corrected, there isn’t a version for the Mac.  I was apparently 
> thinking of another program, and I apologize.
>  
> Since I went to the site, I will paste the link here:
>  
> http://jscholes.net/project/codex/
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 5:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic
>  
> Wow! I did not know there was a program for Mac. The last I looked, It was 
> only for windows. Interesting.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Lois Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well Mike, I enjoyed learning about you and your life.
>> 
>> There is a program called codex that will do what you want.  I use it for my 
>> Kindle books because I want to read them in Voice Dream.  I convert them to 
>> EPub, but there are choices.  I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure if you 
>> google it, it will come up.  It is free, though you can contribute.  There 
>> is a version for windows and one for Mac.
>> 
>> Good luck with it, and be sure to read the instructions before using.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Michael Busboom
>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:58 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic
>> 
>> Thanks for answering my question, Sandy.  This is very embarrassing because 
>> I thought I was posting a private message to the list owner.  I don’t even 
>> know if it is permissible to discuss this topic on the list.
>> 
>> However, thanks for your input, and all the best.  By the way, I don’t want 
>> to go the scanner route, because I have already purchased Kindle editions, 
>> and I don’t want to have to pay a second time for a book when I may only use 
>> one or two sentences for quotation purposes out of it.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> > On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:53, sandi sørensen  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM 
>> > from a book you should be able to do it , too.
>> > Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
>> > I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and allsorts of aids 
>> > in 
>> > that regard is really close.
>> > I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
>> > amount of time on music.
>> > Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
>> > Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a 
>> > paper book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan 
>> > whole medical books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a 
>> > task.
>> > But what dont we do to reach our goals?
>> > Best Sandie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Mark,
>> >>
>> >> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a 
>> >> nice weekend.
>> >>
>> >> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> >> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe thatthey perform 
>> >> a 
>> >> real service to all of us.
>> >>
>> >> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list 
>> >> about the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into 
>> >> a document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I 
>> >> sometimes need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>> >>
>> >> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, 
>> >> the matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice 
>> >> Dream Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is 
>> >> reasonably readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased 
>> >> books from the Amazon store, I have asked a friend toremove the DRM 
>> >> so 
>> >> that I could import the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend 
>> >> doesn’t at all mind helping me, he isn’t always available when I need 
>> >> material.  I have no desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act 
>> >> irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM removed from books which I myself 
>> >> have purchased, and I do not share these books with other people.
>> >>
>> >> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> >> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes 
>> >> DRM from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a 
>> >> Unix utility or something like that.
>> >>
>> >> I would appreciate your thoughts, and 

Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Mary,

I stand corrected, there isn’t a version for the Mac.  I was apparently 
thinking of another program, and I apologize.

Since I went to the site, I will paste the link here:

http://jscholes.net/project/codex/

Take care,
Lois

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 5:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

Wow! I did not know there was a program for Mac. The last I looked, It was only 
for windows. Interesting.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:


  Well Mike, I enjoyed learning about you and your life.

  There is a program called codex that will do what you want.  I use it for my 
  Kindle books because I want to read them in Voice Dream.  I convert them to 
  EPub, but there are choices.  I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure if you 
  google it, it will come up.  It is free, though you can contribute.  There 
  is a version for windows and one for Mac.

  Good luck with it, and be sure to read the instructions before using.

  Take care,
  Lois

  -Original Message- 
  From: Michael Busboom
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:58 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

  Thanks for answering my question, Sandy.  This is very embarrassing because 
  I thought I was posting a private message to the list owner.  I don’t even 
  know if it is permissible to discuss this topic on the list.

  However, thanks for your input, and all the best.  By the way, I don’t want 
  to go the scanner route, because I have already purchased Kindle editions, 
  and I don’t want to have to pay a second time for a book when I may only use 
  one or two sentences for quotation purposes out of it.

  Mike

  > On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:53, sandi sørensen  wrote:
  >
  > Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM 
  > from a book you should be able to do it , too.
  > Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
  > I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and all sorts of aids in 
  > that regard is really close.
  > I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
  > amount of time on music.
  > Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
  > Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a 
  > paper book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan 
  > whole medical books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a 
  > task.
  > But what dont we do to reach our goals?
  > Best Sandie
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Sent from my iPad
  >
  >> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
  >>
  >> Hello Mark,
  >>
  >> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a 
  >> nice weekend.
  >>
  >> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
  >> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a 
  >> real service to all of us.
  >>
  >> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list 
  >> about the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into 
  >> a document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I 
  >> sometimes need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
  >>
  >> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, 
  >> the matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice 
  >> Dream Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is 
  >> reasonably readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased 
  >> books from the Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so 
  >> that I could import the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend 
  >> doesn’t at all mind helping me, he isn’t always available when I need 
  >> material.  I have no desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act 
  >> irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM removed from books which I myself 
  >> have purchased, and I do not share these books with other people.
  >>
  >> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
  >> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes 
  >> DRM from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a 
  >> Unix utility or something like that.
  >>
  >> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
  >> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
  >> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or 
  >> herself as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
  >>
  >> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what 
  >> you do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
  >> mainstreamed into the local 

Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Mary Otten]

Wow! I did not know there was a program for Mac. The last I looked, It was only 
for windows. Interesting.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> Well Mike, I enjoyed learning about you and your life.
> 
> There is a program called codex that will do what you want.  I use it for my 
> Kindle books because I want to read them in Voice Dream.  I convert them to 
> EPub, but there are choices.  I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure if you 
> google it, it will come up.  It is free, though you can contribute.  There 
> is a version for windows and one for Mac.
> 
> Good luck with it, and be sure to read the instructions before using.
> 
> Take care,
> Lois
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Michael Busboom
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:58 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic
> 
> Thanks for answering my question, Sandy.  This is very embarrassing because 
> I thought I was posting a private message to the list owner.  I don’t even 
> know if it is permissible to discuss this topic on the list.
> 
> However, thanks for your input, and all the best.  By the way, I don’t want 
> to go the scanner route, because I have already purchased Kindle editions, 
> and I don’t want to have to pay a second time for a book when I may only use 
> one or two sentences for quotation purposes out of it.
> 
> Mike
> 
> > On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:53, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM 
> > from a book you should be able to do it , too.
> > Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
> > I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and all sorts of aids in 
> > that regard is really close.
> > I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
> > amount of time on music.
> > Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
> > Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a 
> > paper book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan 
> > whole medical books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a 
> > task.
> > But what dont we do to reach our goals?
> > Best Sandie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Mark,
> >>
> >> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a 
> >> nice weekend.
> >>
> >> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
> >> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a 
> >> real service to all of us.
> >>
> >> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list 
> >> about the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into 
> >> a document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I 
> >> sometimes need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
> >>
> >> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, 
> >> the matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice 
> >> Dream Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is 
> >> reasonably readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased 
> >> books from the Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so 
> >> that I could import the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend 
> >> doesn’t at all mind helping me, he isn’t always available when I need 
> >> material.  I have no desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act 
> >> irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM removed from books which I myself 
> >> have purchased, and I do not share these books with other people.
> >>
> >> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
> >> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes 
> >> DRM from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a 
> >> Unix utility or something like that.
> >>
> >> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
> >> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
> >> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or 
> >> herself as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
> >>
> >> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what 
> >> you do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
> >> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
> >> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976. 
> >> For better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, 
> >> geezer.  Professionally, I have worked with several companies and 
> >> organizations in the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance 
> >> translator and interpreter.
> 

Why you need to upgrade from this older version of Windows 10 - CNET

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
lists for those who, like me, use both Windows and Mac.

Mark

Why you need to upgrade from this older version of Windows 10 - CNET


CNET How To - Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 2:00 AM
Why you need to upgrade from this older version of Windows 10 - CNET
If you have refused Microsoft's Windows 10 updates for the past couple of
years, it's now time to upgrade. Microsoft announced that it is no longer
rolling out security and quality updates to Windows 10 version 1511, which
was released nearly two years ago in November 2015.
What's a quality update?
There are two types of Microsoft updates: feature updates and quality
updates. Feature updates add new features and functionality and are
generally released twice a year. Quality updates provide security and
reliability fixes and are released monthly -- typically on what is known as
Patch Tuesday, the second Tuesday of every month. When Microsoft says that
Windows 10 version 1511 will no longer receive security and quality updates,
it's just being redundant; security fixes come by way of quality updates. 
Does it matter if I'm running Windows 10 Home or Pro?
It does not. The end of service for Windows 10 version 1511 affects not only
both Windows 10 Home and Pro editions but also Windows 10 Education and
Enterprise editions.
How do I check which version of Window 10 I have?
In the search box on the taskbar, type winver and hit Enter. This opens the
About Windows window that tells you which version of Windows 10 you are
running. If it listed as Version 1511 (or, gasp!, earlier), then it's time
to update.
How do I update?
Open the Settings app and choose Update & security. Next, choose Windows
Update from the left column and then click the Check for updates button. Or,
if an update is sitting there waiting for you, click the Restart now button
to restart your PC and install the update. Alternatively, you could wait
until next week and install Windows 10 Fall Creators Update when it's
released on October 17.
 
Now Playing: Watch this: 10 quick ways to speed up Windows 10 
3:27 
And if I refuse?
Well, your computer will continue to work but you will no longer receive
updates to patch up any holes that might leave you open to future security
vulnerabilities. You will be operating, as they say, without a net.

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/why-you-need-to-upgrade-from-this-older-version-
of-windows-10/#ftag=CAD5457c2c


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RE: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to let you all know that I replied to Mike’s very kind and 
gracious email, off-list.  

In my private response, I informed him that requests for app/application 
recommendations do not violate any list policies.  

As a side note, I truly do appreciate the extremely kind replies you all 
contributed to this thread.

Sincerely,

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 10:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

Well Mike, I enjoyed learning about you and your life.

There is a program called codex that will do what you want.  I use it for my 
Kindle books because I want to read them in Voice Dream.  I convert them to 
EPub, but there are choices.  I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure if you 
google it, it will come up.  It is free, though you can contribute.  There 
is a version for windows and one for Mac.

Good luck with it, and be sure to read the instructions before using.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Busboom
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

Thanks for answering my question, Sandy.  This is very embarrassing because 
I thought I was posting a private message to the list owner.  I don’t even 
know if it is permissible to discuss this topic on the list.

However, thanks for your input, and all the best.  By the way, I don’t want 
to go the scanner route, because I have already purchased Kindle editions, 
and I don’t want to have to pay a second time for a book when I may only use 
one or two sentences for quotation purposes out of it.

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:53, sandi sørensen  wrote:
>
> Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM 
> from a book you should be able to do it , too.
> Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
> I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and all sorts of aids in 
> that regard is really close.
> I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
> amount of time on music.
> Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
> Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a 
> paper book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan 
> whole medical books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a 
> task.
> But what dont we do to reach our goals?
> Best Sandie
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a 
>> nice weekend.
>>
>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a 
>> real service to all of us.
>>
>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list 
>> about the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into 
>> a document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I 
>> sometimes need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>>
>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, 
>> the matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice 
>> Dream Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is 
>> reasonably readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased 
>> books from the Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so 
>> that I could import the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend 
>> doesn’t at all mind helping me, he isn’t always available when I need 
>> material.  I have no desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act 
>> irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM removed from books which I myself 
>> have purchased, and I do not share these books with other people.
>>
>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes 
>> DRM from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a 
>> Unix utility or something like that.
>>
>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or 
>> herself as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>>
>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what 
>> you do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976. 
>> For better or worse, I’m starting to become 

Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Lois Butterfield]

Well Mike, I enjoyed learning about you and your life.

There is a program called codex that will do what you want.  I use it for my 
Kindle books because I want to read them in Voice Dream.  I convert them to 
EPub, but there are choices.  I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure if you 
google it, it will come up.  It is free, though you can contribute.  There 
is a version for windows and one for Mac.

Good luck with it, and be sure to read the instructions before using.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Busboom
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

Thanks for answering my question, Sandy.  This is very embarrassing because 
I thought I was posting a private message to the list owner.  I don’t even 
know if it is permissible to discuss this topic on the list.

However, thanks for your input, and all the best.  By the way, I don’t want 
to go the scanner route, because I have already purchased Kindle editions, 
and I don’t want to have to pay a second time for a book when I may only use 
one or two sentences for quotation purposes out of it.

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:53, sandi sørensen  wrote:
>
> Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM 
> from a book you should be able to do it , too.
> Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
> I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and all sorts of aids in 
> that regard is really close.
> I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
> amount of time on music.
> Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
> Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a 
> paper book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan 
> whole medical books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a 
> task.
> But what dont we do to reach our goals?
> Best Sandie
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a 
>> nice weekend.
>>
>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a 
>> real service to all of us.
>>
>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list 
>> about the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into 
>> a document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I 
>> sometimes need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>>
>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, 
>> the matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice 
>> Dream Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is 
>> reasonably readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased 
>> books from the Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so 
>> that I could import the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend 
>> doesn’t at all mind helping me, he isn’t always available when I need 
>> material.  I have no desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act 
>> irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM removed from books which I myself 
>> have purchased, and I do not share these books with other people.
>>
>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes 
>> DRM from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a 
>> Unix utility or something like that.
>>
>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or 
>> herself as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>>
>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what 
>> you do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976. 
>> For better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, 
>> geezer.  Professionally, I have worked with several companies and 
>> organizations in the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance 
>> translator and interpreter.
>>
>> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
>> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna. 
>> Our three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I 
>> always speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue 
>> with the kids.
>>
>> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, 
>> but since we 

Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Michael Busboom]

Your thought about copying is one that I have had as well, Tim, and it 
sometimes works okay.

I called my original posting an off-list inquiry because at the bottom of every 
message on this list, we are told how to reach the list owners.  I did not know 
that when I used that e-mail address, it would go out to the entire list.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, and have a great weekend,

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 17:56, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if the "Copy Last Phrase to the Clipboard" would work for small 
> passages in this situation.  Let's say that VO read a paragraph, then you 
> stopped it, then press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO, then 
> pasted that phrase in into a TexEdit document, if that would do the trick for 
> you.  I'm not sure if copy protection algorithms would stop this, but I doubt 
> it.  The other limitation is the amount of stuff that VO copies at a time.  I 
> guess that this could depend on how long of passage you need.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 14, 2017, at 09:49, David & his pack of dogs  
> wrote:
> 
> I know nothing about what you are talking about however, have posted your 
> query on another list.  Stripping out all the headers of course.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom
> Sent: October 14, 2017 7:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic
> 
> Not always possible, and memorizing several sentences and then writing them 
> precisely, including punctuation, isn’t always easy.  That is why copy and 
> paste functions exist.
> 
> Mike
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 16:02, sandi sørensen  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay?
>> I mean if you just wanna use a few sentences, surely you can remember them, 
>> and just write them?
>> 
>> 
>> Sandie.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mark,
>>> 
>>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
>>> weekend. 
>>> 
>>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a 
>>> real service to all of us.
>>> 
>>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list 
>>> about the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a 
>>> document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I 
>>> sometimes need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>>> 
>>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
>>> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
>>> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably 
>>> readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the 
>>> Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could 
>>> import the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all 
>>> mind helping me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no 
>>> desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only 
>>> had the DRM removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not 
>>> share these books with other people.
>>> 
>>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
>>> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
>>> utility or something like that.
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
>>> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>>> 
>>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you 
>>> do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  
>>> For better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, 
>>> geezer.  Professionally, I have worked with several companies and 
>>> organizations in the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance 
>>> translator and interpreter.
>>> 
>>> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
>>> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  
>>> Our three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I 
>>> always speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue 
>>> with the kids.
>>> 
>>> 

Content Caching

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Content caching is now a part of High Sierra.  Content Caching used to be 
available only through MacOS X Server but has now been integrated into the 
regular MacOS experience.  What does this do, you ask?  Basically, it can 
considerably speed up downloads of certain updates and content from Apple, as 
well as reduce data usage.  What happens is that if Content Caching is enabled 
on your Mac, when it or another device requests an update or related content 
from Apple, that content is downloaded to the Content Caching computer and 
distributed to the devices that request it.  Therefore, the first time the 
content is requested, the speed is no different than any normal update or 
content access request, but any future requests for that same item no longer 
need to be downloaded from an Apple server as they are stored locally on a Mac 
in your home.  This means that if you have a slower internet connection, or 
data limits from your ISP, the data is actually only downloaded once then 
redistributed locally from then on.  If you have a fast, robust internal 
network, then the speed for updates and accessing other iCloud kinds of content 
is greatly increased.

The service is found in System Preferences, Sharing under Content Caching.  
There are some settings and other factors to be aware of.  If the Mac that you 
enable Content Caching on is not on when the request is made, then the download 
will still need to come from Apple or some other Content Caching computer that 
is on your network.  Also, these updates and other content are stored locally 
on the Mac, so if your Mac does not have a lot of space, this option may not be 
desirable.  There are also settings that allow content to be cached across 
multiple subnets with the same public IP and the ability to share the load 
between multiple caching computers.

In my case, I have a MacPro that is always left on in my house that is also 
connected via ethernet, so, all these updates are passed through it.  I also 
use this service at work where I have multiple subnets and hundreds to 
thousands of devices wanting updates.  It does an excellent job at reducing the 
bottleneck at the portal to the outside world.

Check it out if you wish.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Re: apple tv 4K

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Simon,

I'm certainly not a lawyer but believe that this sort of thing is not totally 
the fault of Apple or any other provider.  Different regulations within each 
country, different levels of tax levels and such cause things to be priced much 
different in each area.  We, in Canada, also pay more than our southern 
neighbours for things, and I know for sure that we often don't get full 
availability of features the same as the States either.  For example, somewhere 
between our government and the big Telecom providers, we are not able to have 
access to the yearly upgrade program that Apple offers to iPhone users in the 
US.  Things like iTunes Match and Apple Music tend to come to us behind its 
release in the US.  Netflix costs more and we don't get the same amount of 
content either.  So, I guess that my point is that we can't totally blame Apple 
or the other tech providers for these inflated costs, there's usually a bunch 
of other things that contribute to this inflation of costs.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2017, at 19:31, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi List,
 
I’ve just been looking at the Apple TV 4 K as a possible upgrade from my 4th 
gen aTV
 
To give you an idea of why people don’t rush to buy apple products in New 
Zealand,
The apple TV 4K cost USA dollars,
199 for the 64Gig version,
This equals 278.00 New Zealand dollars with conversion.
 
Yet on the apple.co.nz  website they have the retail price 
of the 4K 64Gig device as $339.00
 
Why do apple have to charge such crazy pricing between nations?
 
And the Apple TV app on the phone or iPad isn’t even available on my iPhone 7+ 
in NZ,
Crazy things we have to put up with.

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Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I'm wondering if the "Copy Last Phrase to the Clipboard" would work for small 
passages in this situation.  Let's say that VO read a paragraph, then you 
stopped it, then press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO, then 
pasted that phrase in into a TexEdit document, if that would do the trick for 
you.  I'm not sure if copy protection algorithms would stop this, but I doubt 
it.  The other limitation is the amount of stuff that VO copies at a time.  I 
guess that this could depend on how long of passage you need.

Just a thought.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 09:49, David & his pack of dogs  
wrote:

I know nothing about what you are talking about however, have posted your query 
on another list.  Stripping out all the headers of course.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Busboom
Sent: October 14, 2017 7:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

Not always possible, and memorizing several sentences and then writing them 
precisely, including punctuation, isn’t always easy.  That is why copy and 
paste functions exist.

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 16:02, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> 
> Okay?
> I mean if you just wanna use a few sentences, surely you can remember them, 
> and just write them?
> 
> 
> Sandie.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
>> weekend. 
>> 
>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real 
>> service to all of us.
>> 
>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
>> the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a 
>> document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes 
>> need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>> 
>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
>> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
>> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably 
>> readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the 
>> Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import 
>> the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind 
>> helping me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no 
>> desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only 
>> had the DRM removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not 
>> share these books with other people.
>> 
>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
>> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
>> utility or something like that.
>> 
>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
>> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>> 
>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you 
>> do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For 
>> better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  
>> Professionally, I have worked with several companies and organizations in 
>> the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance translator and 
>> interpreter.
>> 
>> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
>> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
>> three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always 
>> speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the 
>> kids.
>> 
>> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
>> since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
>> little bit more about me.
>> 
>> My very best to you with thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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RE: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[David & his pack of dogs]

I know nothing about what you are talking about however, have posted your query 
on another list.  Stripping out all the headers of course.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Busboom
Sent: October 14, 2017 7:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

Not always possible, and memorizing several sentences and then writing them 
precisely, including punctuation, isn’t always easy.  That is why copy and 
paste functions exist.

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 16:02, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> 
> Okay?
> I mean if you just wanna use a few sentences, surely you can remember them, 
> and just write them?
> 
> 
> Sandie.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
>> weekend. 
>> 
>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real 
>> service to all of us.
>> 
>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
>> the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a 
>> document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes 
>> need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>> 
>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
>> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
>> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably 
>> readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the 
>> Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import 
>> the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind 
>> helping me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no 
>> desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only 
>> had the DRM removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not 
>> share these books with other people.
>> 
>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
>> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
>> utility or something like that.
>> 
>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
>> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>> 
>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you 
>> do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For 
>> better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  
>> Professionally, I have worked with several companies and organizations in 
>> the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance translator and 
>> interpreter.
>> 
>> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
>> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
>> three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always 
>> speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the 
>> kids.
>> 
>> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
>> since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
>> little bit more about me.
>> 
>> My very best to you with thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: problems copying files

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There's likely either a permission error or some other error with specific 
files within the folder that is causing them to appear "in use" to the system.  
Yes, you could go one by one, or two by two in attempts to finish things and 
determine the culprit or culprits, but that would indeed be tedious at best.  
Usually, the root user can bypass these sorts of issues.  There is also ways in 
the Terminal whereby we could copy things over, but lets go with the root user 
method since it uses the GUI.  We will enable the root user, then disable it 
after you're done so that your computer doesn't have a vulnerability with root 
enabled.

1.  Go to System Prefs to the Users & Groups pane.
2.  Click the padlock to unlock it.   You'll need to enter your Admin password.
3.  In the table of users, go to the bottom to the Login Options item.
4.  Find the Join button and press it.
5.  In the new dialog, press the Open Directory Utility button.
6.  Click the padlock to unlock again.
7.  Up to the Edit menu and down to Enable Root User.
8.  You'll need to enter and confirm a password for the root user.  Don't make 
it the same as your Admin though.

You can quit everything now and logout of your current user.  In the Login 
window, VO-space on the Other user then enter "root" in the username field and 
your password in the password field.  It will probably go through some setup 
steps, don't set up any iCloud stuff or Siri stuff here, just tell it to "Don't 
Sign in" and/or Skip depending on the dialog.  You'll also need to turn VO on 
in this user as it won't do it automatically.

Now, you should be able to do the copying without problems.  Once finished, log 
out of the root user, log back in as yourself and go through the steps listed 
above to get into Directory Utility.  In Directory Utility, choose Disable Root 
user and quit things.

You should be good to go now.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 03:58, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

Hi,
So, after going through my computer coughing and spluttering, I now have it 
back and it’s working great!

I am having problems copying a folder of files from one external to another, 
though.  when I try and copy the entire folder, I get an error that says the 
operation can’t be completed because one or more files are in use.  they are 
not in use.  If I copy smaller chunks, I can, but I still am often getting the 
same message as above, about the files being in use.

I really really want all my books in one place, and am trying to free a drive 
for time machine back ups.

I have done a disk utility on the disk where the books folder resieds, and 
supposedly everything is fine and dandy..

Any help?  I can copy things one by one, two by two, but that’s gonna take ages!

Thanks
Cait

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Re: To update or not to update, that is the question!

[Donna Goodin]

I have the seven, and I performed the update this morning. Seeing some 
improvement in Maps. It’s better, but still not as good as it was under iOS 10. 
However on our last outing, it did get us where we needed to go, which is 
definitely an improvement.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Wha tphone do you have?
> 
>> On 10/14/17, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> Well, since it seems that I can’t roll back. I think that’s exactly what I’m
>> going to do. :-)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Robert Cole 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If it was me,
>>> I would update to see if it fixes your problems, and if that doesn’t help,
>>> Then reset the phone.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Well, my Maps dilemma becomes more interesting. I didn’t remember doing
 any updating since the initial install of iOS 11, so decided to check and
 see what version I’m running I am in fact running version 11.0. According
 to what was posted last night, this means I can still roll back to
 version 10 if I want to. So, A new dilemma. Should I roll back to version
 10, or update to version 03, and see if that fixes the trouble I’m
 having. Wheather related to maps or just in general I’d be curious to
 hear people’s thoughts on the subsequent updates to version 11. Did you
 notice any substantive changes?
 Thanks,
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Re: To update or not to update, that is the question!

[Ramy Moustafa]

Wha tphone do you have?

On 10/14/17, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> Well, since it seems that I can’t roll back. I think that’s exactly what I’m
> going to do. :-)
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Robert Cole 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If it was me,
>> I would update to see if it fixes your problems, and if that doesn’t help,
>> Then reset the phone.
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, my Maps dilemma becomes more interesting. I didn’t remember doing
>>> any updating since the initial install of iOS 11, so decided to check and
>>> see what version I’m running I am in fact running version 11.0. According
>>> to what was posted last night, this means I can still roll back to
>>> version 10 if I want to. So, A new dilemma. Should I roll back to version
>>> 10, or update to version 03, and see if that fixes the trouble I’m
>>> having. Wheather related to maps or just in general I’d be curious to
>>> hear people’s thoughts on the subsequent updates to version 11. Did you
>>> notice any substantive changes?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>>
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Re: Auto-mount DMG on boot?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I don't see why this wouldn't work.  Go into System Prefs, Users & Groups.  
Make sure that you've unlocked the padlock and that your user is selected in 
the Users, Groups & Login Options table.  Select the Login Items tab, then 
press the Add button.  In the Open dialog, press cmd-shift-i to access your 
iCloud Drive and navigate to the dmg file and add it.  Make sure that the dmg 
file is not mounted and this process should mount it.  This won't automatically 
activate the VO Prefs, but should at least auto mount the dmg for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 06:11, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
For quite a while now, I've kept my VO preferences on a DMG stored in my iCloud 
Drive. This makes it very easy to use my prefs on beta drives or if I switch 
Macs. The only problem is that I lose my prefs on boot until I mount the DMG.

It's only a few steps (Finder, cmd-shift-i, type v o I to get to my disk, 
cmd-o). Still, I'd like to automate this if I can, so the Mac mounts the disk 
image on its own when it boots. I've had a look online, but the only thing I 
found was about network drives or SMB shares, which I don't want. This is just 
a locally stored DMG that I want to force to mount on boot. Any thoughts or 
suggestions? Thanks.

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Re: Hello all:

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery 
partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the 
volume.  Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High 
Sierra version of the Recovery partition.  If so, then you'll need to add the 
shift key to the combination.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo 

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up 
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> Hi
> I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
> I think it will be better hahahaha
> thanks Tim
> 
> On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many 
>> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is 
>> indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things 
>> that may help.
>> 
>> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
>> Macintosh
>> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
>> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk 
>> identifier for these volumes.
>> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
>> respectively.
>> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD 
>> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
>> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your 
>> frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, 
>> you cannot combine
>> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is 
>> logically "in the way" of any expansion.
>> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the 
>> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display 
>> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
>> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever 
>> need.
>> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or 
>> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, 
>> but some different arguments.
>> 
>> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free 
>> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then 
>> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to 
>> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally 
>> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD 
>> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data 
>> to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow 
>> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with 
>> respect to identifier numbering.
>> 
>> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the 
>> other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
>> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone 
>> else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?
>> 
>> Thanks bunches.
>> Oriol Gómez Sentís
>> T: (+34)620788049
>> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Michael Busboom]

Not always possible, and memorizing several sentences and then writing them 
precisely, including punctuation, isn’t always easy.  That is why copy and 
paste functions exist.

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 16:02, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> 
> Okay?
> I mean if you just wanna use a few sentences, surely you can remember them, 
> and just write them?
> 
> 
> Sandie.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
>> weekend. 
>> 
>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real 
>> service to all of us.
>> 
>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
>> the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a 
>> document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes 
>> need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>> 
>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
>> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
>> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably 
>> readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the 
>> Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import 
>> the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind 
>> helping me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no 
>> desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only 
>> had the DRM removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not 
>> share these books with other people.
>> 
>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
>> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
>> utility or something like that.
>> 
>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
>> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>> 
>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you 
>> do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For 
>> better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  
>> Professionally, I have worked with several companies and organizations in 
>> the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance translator and 
>> interpreter.
>> 
>> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
>> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
>> three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always 
>> speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the 
>> kids.
>> 
>> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
>> since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
>> little bit more about me.
>> 
>> My very best to you with thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[sandi sørensen]

Okay?
I mean if you just wanna use a few sentences, surely you can remember them, and 
just write them?
 

Sandie.


Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark,
> 
> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
> weekend. 
> 
> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I enjoy 
> many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real 
> service to all of us.
> 
> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
> the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a document 
> that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes need to 
> site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
> 
> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably readily 
> accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the Amazon 
> store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import the 
> books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind helping 
> me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no desire to 
> pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM 
> removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not share these 
> books with other people.
> 
> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
> utility or something like that.
> 
> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
> 
> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you do 
> for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was mainstreamed 
> into the local school system, got a degree in German at the University of 
> Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For better or 
> worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  
> Professionally, I have worked with several companies and organizations in the 
> blindness field, and I have also been a freelance translator and interpreter.
> 
> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
> three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always 
> speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the 
> kids.
> 
> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
> since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
> little bit more about me.
> 
> My very best to you with thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Michael Busboom]

Thanks for answering my question, Sandy.  This is very embarrassing because I 
thought I was posting a private message to the list owner.  I don’t even know 
if it is permissible to discuss this topic on the list.

However, thanks for your input, and all the best.  By the way, I don’t want to 
go the scanner route, because I have already purchased Kindle editions, and I 
don’t want to have to pay a second time for a book when I may only use one or 
two sentences for quotation purposes out of it.

Mike

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:53, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> 
> Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM 
> from a book you should be able to do it , too.
> Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
> I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and all sorts of aids in that 
> regard is really close.
> I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
> amount of time on music.
> Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
> Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a paper 
> book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan whole 
> medical books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a task.
> But what dont we do to reach our goals?
> Best Sandie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
>> weekend. 
>> 
>> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I 
>> enjoy many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real 
>> service to all of us.
>> 
>> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
>> the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a 
>> document that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes 
>> need to site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
>> 
>> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
>> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
>> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably 
>> readily accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the 
>> Amazon store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import 
>> the books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind 
>> helping me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no 
>> desire to pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only 
>> had the DRM removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not 
>> share these books with other people.
>> 
>> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
>> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
>> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
>> utility or something like that.
>> 
>> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
>> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
>> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
>> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
>> 
>> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you 
>> do for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was 
>> mainstreamed into the local school system, got a degree in German at the 
>> University of Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For 
>> better or worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  
>> Professionally, I have worked with several companies and organizations in 
>> the blindness field, and I have also been a freelance translator and 
>> interpreter.
>> 
>> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
>> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
>> three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always 
>> speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the 
>> kids.
>> 
>> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
>> since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
>> little bit more about me.
>> 
>> My very best to you with thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[sandi sørensen]

Hi, lets start with your question, obviously if your friend can remove DRM from 
a book you should be able to do it , too.
Find out how he do it , and we can take it from there.
I too am educated a RN, registered nurse, so me and all sorts of aids in that 
regard is really close.
I live in Europe Denmark, Jutland, when I’m not working i use an insanely 
amount of time on music.
Too be more specific I’m a Clasiccal Keytar player.
Another thing that might work for you, it takes more time, is to get a paper 
book, scan the relevant part in, and use that, i have had to scan whole medical 
books in, me being 5.5 and 100 pound that was a bit of a task.
But what dont we do to reach our goals?
Best Sandie





Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 15.43, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark,
> 
> I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
> weekend. 
> 
> Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I enjoy 
> many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real 
> service to all of us.
> 
> So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
> the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a document 
> that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes need to 
> site short passages from a book that we are discussing.
> 
> Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
> matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream 
> Reader, you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably readily 
> accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the Amazon 
> store, I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import the 
> books into Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind helping 
> me, he isn’t always available when I need material.  I have no desire to 
> pirate material, nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM 
> removed from books which I myself have purchased, and I do not share these 
> books with other people.
> 
> All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
> asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM 
> from eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix 
> utility or something like that.
> 
> I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
> whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
> question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself 
> as a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.
> 
> On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you do 
> for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was mainstreamed 
> into the local school system, got a degree in German at the University of 
> Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For better or 
> worse, I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  
> Professionally, I have worked with several companies and organizations in the 
> blindness field, and I have also been a freelance translator and interpreter.
> 
> I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
> Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
> three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always 
> speak German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the 
> kids.
> 
> Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
> since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
> little bit more about me.
> 
> My very best to you with thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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Off-list inquiry about a perhaps questionable topic

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Mark,

I hope that wherever you live, and wherever you are, you are having a nice 
weekend. 

Before asking my question, please let me once again tell you how much I enjoy 
many of your postings on the list.  I believe that they perform a real service 
to all of us.

So here’s my question: You may have seen my recent posting on the list about 
the Kindle app and how one might copy text from a Kindle book into a document 
that I am creating.  Since I am team-teaching a course, I sometimes need to 
site short passages from a book that we are discussing.

Thus far, I haven’t received any feedback, and that is okay.  However, the 
matter is somewhat urgent for me.  If you are familiar with Voice Dream Reader, 
you will know that performing such an operation is reasonably readily 
accomplished.  In the past, after I have purchased books from the Amazon store, 
I have asked a friend to remove the DRM so that I could import the books into 
Voice Dream Reader.  While my friend doesn’t at all mind helping me, he isn’t 
always available when I need material.  I have no desire to pirate material, 
nor do I wish to act irresponsibly.  I have only had the DRM removed from books 
which I myself have purchased, and I do not share these books with other people.

All of this having been said, I am wondering about the appropriateness of 
asking list members if they know of an accessible program that removes DRM from 
eBooks, not Audible or other audio books.  Perhaps there is a Unix utility or 
something like that.

I would appreciate your thoughts, and understandably, I will abide with 
whatever you decide is appropriate.  The last thing I want to do is ask a 
question and get preached at by someone on the list who sees him or herself as 
a pillar of moral rectitude, if you get my drift.

On a totally different subject, I am wondering where you live and what you do 
for a living.  As for me, I grew up on a farm near Chicago, was mainstreamed 
into the local school system, got a degree in German at the University of 
Illinois, came to Austria, where I have lived since 1976.  For better or worse, 
I’m starting to become an old, yet very lively, geezer.  Professionally, I have 
worked with several companies and organizations in the blindness field, and I 
have also been a freelance translator and interpreter.

I have three daughters, all of whom are in their 20s, and I am married to 
Regina, who is a registered nurse at a private hospital here in Vienna.  Our 
three children and one grandchild are all bilingual.  Regina and I always speak 
German with one another, but we each speak our mother tongue with the kids.

Well, Mark, that’s probably more information than you might have wanted, but 
since we occasionally interact through the list, I wanted you to know just a 
little bit more about me.

My very best to you with thanks in advance,

Mike
 

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RE: Twitter client on the Mac

[ilovecountrymusic483]

This has been a problem for a while at least with my mac.

Matthew



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Saqib Hussain
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Twitter client on the Mac

Hi. For some reason I can no longer reply to a tweet as the option is dimmed. I 
cannot like a tweet either. Has anyone experienced this? 

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Speech Rate

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. How do I adjust the speech rate as I can no longer do this as the option 
isn’t in the roster and how do I stop VO from telling me that something is miss 
spelt? 

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Twitter client on the Mac

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. For some reason I can no longer reply to a tweet as the option is dimmed. I 
cannot like a tweet either. Has anyone experienced this? 

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Auto-mount DMG on boot?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
For quite a while now, I've kept my VO preferences on a DMG stored in my iCloud 
Drive. This makes it very easy to use my prefs on beta drives or if I switch 
Macs. The only problem is that I lose my prefs on boot until I mount the DMG.

It's only a few steps (Finder, cmd-shift-i, type v o I to get to my disk, 
cmd-o). Still, I'd like to automate this if I can, so the Mac mounts the disk 
image on its own when it boots. I've had a look online, but the only thing I 
found was about network drives or SMB shares, which I don't want. This is just 
a locally stored DMG that I want to force to mount on boot. Any thoughts or 
suggestions? Thanks.

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Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

[sandi sørensen]

Do we know if an IPad with IOS 11 have turn by turn, finding a Gf with a car is 
workable, but i dont have an IPhone with IOS 11, and not even for  yall am i 
going to update mine to IOS 11.
Donna says her self she changes between overview and turn by turn, so okay her 
focus might change, but this is plane weird.
I wanna find out what goes on,





Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 12.20, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandie,
> 
> I’m glad to hear that you have never seen such behavior in maps, it gives me 
> hope that my problem might be solvable someday. :-)
> 
> That was what really weirded me out. Having it on turn by turn didn’t help. 
> I’m about to install the update to 1103, so hopefully that will fix the 
> problem. If not I’ll try what Mark suggested.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 3:45 AM, sandi sørensen  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna, maybe this is a really stupid question, but, if , for example you are 
>> in a car, your husband is driving , why, not just have it on turn by turn? I 
>> realize this does not solve your problem, but might it work for the time you 
>> are traveling?
>> I have absolutely never ever heard about such behavior in maps, and i use it 
>> , lots...
>> Sandie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 01.41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>  
>>> Yeah that’s weird,
>>>  
>>> I must admit I’m not impressed by maps on my 7+,
>>> But tha’ts more to do with the constant refreshing of the screen that seems 
>>> to be happening when I open the app.
>>>  
>>> I don’t use it when I’m home  as I know my city without the need to use 
>>> maps or get directions.
>>>  
>>> But it’s usefull when travelling and currently checking it out it’s 
>>> constantly refreshing and not letting me make the setting changes I want to 
>>> put in.
>>>  
>>> Guess I’ll keep playing for now.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.
>>>  
>>> I’m running on an iPhone 7, Simon.
>>> Donna
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What model of phone is it we’re talking about things working or not working 
>>> on?
>>>  
>>> Is it working better on a 7 or 6 etc,
>>>  
>>> Full info here folks might help with correcting the issues.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sandi sørensen
>>> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 3:15 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.
>>>  
>>> Have just used Maps on a IOS 11 IPhone,
>>> Not one single problem.
>>> I wonder what she  do wrong?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2017, at 15.57, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You guys complain about these things but never report.  Report these to:
>>>  
>>> http://www.apple.com/feedback
>>>  
>>> Or if they are truly accessibility issues you can report them to:
>>>  
>>> accessibil...@apple.com.  Complaining on the list isn’t going to get any 
>>> where.  Apple isn’t a mind reader and this is the end of what I say so if 
>>> your commenting plan on it being deleted becausee I am frustrated with the 
>>> fact that I’ve provided this link before and the same results seem to be 
>>> happening you don’t report the bugs so they can’t get fixed.  Even though 
>>> some of us may be beta testers not all of us happen to run in to the same 
>>> problems that the general public have and moaning and groaning just isn’t 
>>> going to solve the issue.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:41 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>>  
>>> What are you finding wrong with it just out of curiosity?  I think it would 
>>> be nice if you could stop it from constantly moving whenever the directions 
>>> pop up, sense it constantly causes the screen to also refresh, which makes 
>>> multitasking next to impossible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Taylor Arndt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve had it too and this is why our use Google maps?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> OK, I’ve absolutely had it with Maps under iOS 11. This thing is so broken 
>>> and useless that I can’t believe Apple even calls it an app. I thought I 
>>> saw something a while back about rolling back to iOS 10. If anyone has that 
>>> information could you repost it, or send it to me privately?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna Sent from my iPhoune
>>> 
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Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Sandie,

I’m glad to hear that you have never seen such behavior in maps, it gives me 
hope that my problem might be solvable someday. :-)

That was what really weirded me out. Having it on turn by turn didn’t help. I’m 
about to install the update to 1103, so hopefully that will fix the problem. If 
not I’ll try what Mark suggested.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 3:45 AM, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> 
> Donna, maybe this is a really stupid question, but, if , for example you are 
> in a car, your husband is driving , why, not just have it on turn by turn? I 
> realize this does not solve your problem, but might it work for the time you 
> are traveling?
> I have absolutely never ever heard about such behavior in maps, and i use it 
> , lots...
> Sandie
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 01.41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>>  
>> Yeah that’s weird,
>>  
>> I must admit I’m not impressed by maps on my 7+,
>> But tha’ts more to do with the constant refreshing of the screen that seems 
>> to be happening when I open the app.
>>  
>> I don’t use it when I’m home  as I know my city without the need to use maps 
>> or get directions.
>>  
>> But it’s usefull when travelling and currently checking it out it’s 
>> constantly refreshing and not letting me make the setting changes I want to 
>> put in.
>>  
>> Guess I’ll keep playing for now.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.
>>  
>> I’m running on an iPhone 7, Simon.
>> Donna
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> What model of phone is it we’re talking about things working or not working 
>> on?
>>  
>> Is it working better on a 7 or 6 etc,
>>  
>> Full info here folks might help with correcting the issues.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sandi sørensen
>> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 3:15 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.
>>  
>> Have just used Maps on a IOS 11 IPhone,
>> Not one single problem.
>> I wonder what she  do wrong?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 13 Oct 2017, at 15.57, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> You guys complain about these things but never report.  Report these to:
>>  
>> http://www.apple.com/feedback
>>  
>> Or if they are truly accessibility issues you can report them to:
>>  
>> accessibil...@apple.com.  Complaining on the list isn’t going to get any 
>> where.  Apple isn’t a mind reader and this is the end of what I say so if 
>> your commenting plan on it being deleted becausee I am frustrated with the 
>> fact that I’ve provided this link before and the same results seem to be 
>> happening you don’t report the bugs so they can’t get fixed.  Even though 
>> some of us may be beta testers not all of us happen to run in to the same 
>> problems that the general public have and moaning and groaning just isn’t 
>> going to solve the issue.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:41 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>  
>> What are you finding wrong with it just out of curiosity?  I think it would 
>> be nice if you could stop it from constantly moving whenever the directions 
>> pop up, sense it constantly causes the screen to also refresh, which makes 
>> multitasking next to impossible.
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Taylor Arndt  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve had it too and this is why our use Google maps?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> OK, I’ve absolutely had it with Maps under iOS 11. This thing is so broken 
>> and useless that I can’t believe Apple even calls it an app. I thought I saw 
>> something a while back about rolling back to iOS 10. If anyone has that 
>> information could you repost it, or send it to me privately?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna Sent from my iPhoune
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Re: To update or not to update, that is the question!

[Donna Goodin]

Well, since it seems that I can’t roll back. I think that’s exactly what I’m 
going to do. :-)
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> If it was me,
> I would update to see if it fixes your problems, and if that doesn’t help, 
> Then reset the phone.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, my Maps dilemma becomes more interesting. I didn’t remember doing any 
>> updating since the initial install of iOS 11, so decided to check and see 
>> what version I’m running I am in fact running version 11.0. According to 
>> what was posted last night, this means I can still roll back to version 10 
>> if I want to. So, A new dilemma. Should I roll back to version 10, or update 
>> to version 03, and see if that fixes the trouble I’m having. Wheather 
>> related to maps or just in general I’d be curious to hear people’s thoughts 
>> on the subsequent updates to version 11. Did you notice any substantive 
>> changes?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Clean Install

[Lee Jones]

Dear List I want to do a clean install of High Sierra.  I have never done one 
before, which is embarrassing as I have been using a mac for years.  Can you do 
a clean install direct from the recovery partition without an external drive.  
On apple support it gives instructions for how to wipe your mac prior to sale, 
boot into the recovery partition, erase Macintosh HD, and then use the 
reinstall utility etc.  Is this a clean install.  I would be grateful for any 
advice you can give me.

Kind Regards, Lee

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problems copying files

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
So, after going through my computer coughing and spluttering, I now have it 
back and it’s working great!

I am having problems copying a folder of files from one external to another, 
though.  when I try and copy the entire folder, I get an error that says the 
operation can’t be completed because one or more files are in use.  they are 
not in use.  If I copy smaller chunks, I can, but I still am often getting the 
same message as above, about the files being in use.

I really really want all my books in one place, and am trying to free a drive 
for time machine back ups.

I have done a disk utility on the disk where the books folder resieds, and 
supposedly everything is fine and dandy..

Any help?  I can copy things one by one, two by two, but that’s gonna take ages!

Thanks
Cait

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RE: Hello all:

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities 
you can use vo 

Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up 
So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you 
wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities.

 As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to 
try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the 
time.

 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello all:

do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in 
it?
it's command r upon boot right?

On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> Hi
> I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall...
> I think it will be better hahahaha
> thanks Tim
>
> On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This seems to depend on a number of factors.  Specifically, how many 
>> partitions do you have on this disk?  If only two, then your issue is 
>> indeed a problem.  If more than two, then I'll explain a few things 
>> that may help.
>>
>> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions.
>> Macintosh
>> HD, HD-2 and HD-3.
>> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk 
>> identifier for these volumes.
>> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 
>> respectively.
>> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD 
>> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3.
>> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your 
>> frustrations begin.  Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, 
>> you cannot combine
>> disk0s2 with disks4.  The reason for this is that disk0s3 is 
>> logically "in the way" of any expansion.
>> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the 
>> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display 
>> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3.
>> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever 
>> need.
>> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or 
>> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format.  Still possible, 
>> but some different arguments.
>>
>> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free 
>> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then 
>> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to 
>> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally 
>> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD 
>> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data 
>> to return to.  There are also methods within Terminal that can allow 
>> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with 
>> respect to identifier numbering.
>>
>> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the 
>> other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume.
>> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone 
>> else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal?
>>
>> Thanks bunches.
>> Oriol Gómez Sentís
>> T: (+34)620788049
>> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com
>>
>>
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iPod touch fifth gen

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi List,

I thought I'd ask this here as there are some that might have tried what I'm 
thinking.

I have a 5th gen iPod touch that the battery is starting to die on,

I wondered if anyone has taken one apart to replace the battery themselves?

And I thought while I'm taking the battery out to change,
Is it possible to remove / replace the flash storage in the device?

I thought if it used an M.2 Flash SSD device for storage I could put a larger 
size in and increase the storage space!

130 US dollars from ali express is a cheap 500 gig iPod touch.

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Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

[sandi sørensen]

Donna, maybe this is a really stupid question, but, if , for example you are in 
a car, your husband is driving , why, not just have it on turn by turn? I 
realize this does not solve your problem, but might it work for the time you 
are traveling?
I have absolutely never ever heard about such behavior in maps, and i use it , 
lots...
Sandie

Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Oct 2017, at 01.41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>  
> Yeah that’s weird,
>  
> I must admit I’m not impressed by maps on my 7+,
> But tha’ts more to do with the constant refreshing of the screen that seems 
> to be happening when I open the app.
>  
> I don’t use it when I’m home  as I know my city without the need to use maps 
> or get directions.
>  
> But it’s usefull when travelling and currently checking it out it’s 
> constantly refreshing and not letting me make the setting changes I want to 
> put in.
>  
> Guess I’ll keep playing for now.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.
>  
> I’m running on an iPhone 7, Simon.
> Donna
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What model of phone is it we’re talking about things working or not working 
> on?
>  
> Is it working better on a 7 or 6 etc,
>  
> Full info here folks might help with correcting the issues.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sandi sørensen
> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 3:15 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.
>  
> Have just used Maps on a IOS 11 IPhone,
> Not one single problem.
> I wonder what she  do wrong?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 13 Oct 2017, at 15.57, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> You guys complain about these things but never report.  Report these to:
>  
> http://www.apple.com/feedback
>  
> Or if they are truly accessibility issues you can report them to:
>  
> accessibil...@apple.com.  Complaining on the list isn’t going to get any 
> where.  Apple isn’t a mind reader and this is the end of what I say so if 
> your commenting plan on it being deleted becausee I am frustrated with the 
> fact that I’ve provided this link before and the same results seem to be 
> happening you don’t report the bugs so they can’t get fixed.  Even though 
> some of us may be beta testers not all of us happen to run in to the same 
> problems that the general public have and moaning and groaning just isn’t 
> going to solve the issue.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:41 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>  
> What are you finding wrong with it just out of curiosity?  I think it would 
> be nice if you could stop it from constantly moving whenever the directions 
> pop up, sense it constantly causes the screen to also refresh, which makes 
> multitasking next to impossible.
> 
> 
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Taylor Arndt  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had it too and this is why our use Google maps?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> OK, I’ve absolutely had it with Maps under iOS 11. This thing is so broken 
> and useless that I can’t believe Apple even calls it an app. I thought I saw 
> something a while back about rolling back to iOS 10. If anyone has that 
> information could you repost it, or send it to me privately?
> Thanks,
> Donna Sent from my iPhoune
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