Mark on Echo

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

Well, today I went over to Best Buy and purchased an Amazon Echo Plus.  Of
course, I got the black-on-black-on-black, model.  (smile).

I must say that this device is a blast.  

The iOS Alexa app was a breeze to configure and I was up and running in a
matter of minutes.

Thanks to all of you who replied to my free music iOS app question.  

>From the App Store, I downloaded and created both a free Pandora and iHeart
Radio account.  From within the iOS Alexa app, I linked these two accounts
to my Echo and wow!  They work marvelously well.  I have exactly what I want
with amazing voice control over both.  Alexa is truly incredible.  I love
the fact that I can create custom radio stations with my voice, only, via my
Echo as the iOS app is not needed.

As I stated in my previous post, I have decided to use HomePod for personal
contacts, tasks, reminders, etc. but, at this time, I'll be using Alexa for
fun and random music playback, while using HomePod to play my own personal
music collection.  

Would you believe it?  After demonstrating my new Echo Plus to some friends
who had never seen Alexa in action, we went to Best Buy and each of them
purchased an Echo Dot.  I setup three Dots, today.  So that's 4 Echoes I
worked with in one day.  (big Smile).  I'm definitely on my way to becoming
an Echo guru!!!  (Big Smile).

How wonderful it is that we have such a marvelously accessible  platform
such as iOS from which to explore so many new and wonderful devices.  Long
live Apple Inc and its incredible developers.  Also, kudos to the Amazon
Alexa development team, as well. 

Mark

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Re: Getting Voiceover on iOS to shut up

[E.T.]

   No, what the OP wanted was to stop or resume VO speaking, which is 
not the same as muting it. So the 2 finger tap is correct.


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On 2/19/2018 10:04 PM, Dionipher Herrera wrote:

it’s a three finger double tap

Il giorno 19 feb 2018, alle ore 20:45, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:


It has been my experience that a two finger touch performs exactly 
like the tab of a control key for both IOS and Macintosh Trackpad 
commander.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Feb 15, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn > wrote:


Oops, should have read the entire thread first.  Stupid me :). 
 Thanks for this David, missed that one in my travels.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 15, 2018, at 07:58, Tim Kilburn > wrote:


Hi,

If you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected, then you can use the ctrl 
key in the same manner I believe, otherwise, I don't believe that it 
is possible to pause speech.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 14, 2018, at 23:47, Nickus de Vos > wrote:


Thanks, I know that command but that’s not quite what I’m after. That 
totally switches speech on and off, I just want to temporarily 
silence it like pressing control on the Mac would also do to Voiceover.


On 15 Feb 2018, at 08:43, E.T. > wrote:


Triple finger double tap.

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On 2/14/2018 10:41 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote:

Hi all
Is there a way to get Voiceover on iOS to temporarily stop talking 
similar to pressing “control” on the Mac?

Nickus


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Re: Getting Voiceover on iOS to shut up

[Dionipher Herrera]

it’s a three finger double tap 

> Il giorno 19 feb 2018, alle ore 20:45, Jonathan Cohn  
> ha scritto:
> 
> It has been my experience that a two finger touch performs exactly like the 
> tab of a control key for both IOS and Macintosh Trackpad commander.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Oops, should have read the entire thread first.  Stupid me :).  Thanks for 
>> this David, missed that one in my travels.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 07:58, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected, then you can use the ctrl key in 
>> the same manner I believe, otherwise, I don't believe that it is possible to 
>> pause speech.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 23:47, Nickus de Vos > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, I know that command but that’s not quite what I’m after. That 
>> totally switches speech on and off, I just want to temporarily silence it 
>> like pressing control on the Mac would also do to Voiceover.
>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2018, at 08:43, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Triple finger double tap.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 2/14/2018 10:41 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
 Hi all
 Is there a way to get Voiceover on iOS to temporarily stop talking similar 
 to pressing “control” on the Mac?
 Nickus
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Re: How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

[Jonathan Cohn]

If my memory is correct Transmit and Coda are both written by Panic. My quick 
look at Coda seemed to indicate that it could access remote repositories and 
for editing. 

So, to hear you indicate that Transmit has an editor, it sounds like there is a 
bit of overlap between the two products. Can you describe the differences 
between these two pieces of software?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:25 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> I usually use Textedit, though I'll also sometimes use the editor in 
> Transmit, just because it's simple and I like it. Coda is also great.
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I usually just use TextEdit in text mode, which probably doesn't help you 
>> much.  Most of the text apps weren't particularly accessible in the past, so 
>> I just got used to making due.  I'm not in the HTML coding environment 
>> enough lately to need anything else, but that's just my use-case environment.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 15:15, Aleeha Dudley > > wrote:
>> 
>> I like CotEditor, although I am admittedly a beginner with this stuff. 
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I have been using textedit on the Macintosh which provides very little 
>>> support. 
>>> 
>>> I started looking at Panic's coda editor because it appears to have been 
>>> installed on my work computer. I was able to review Markup code but I 
>>> didn't really get a chance to experiment.
>>> 
>>> I have also heard somebody recommend Visual Studio Code from Microsoft, 
>>> which is supposed to run on Mac, Linux and Windows. I have no idea how 
>>> large VSCode is but they certainly have documentation on how to access 
>>> functionality with the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> I also once talked with the developers of Ulysses for Mac 
>>>  they indicated the application appeared to work fine 
>>> with VoiceOver. I believe it uses subscription based pricing after the 
>>> first two weeks of use.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:33 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All:
 
 Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
 markdown.
 
 What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
 user?
 
 My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
 came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
 but it can be difficult to understand and properly edit content in the
 midst of markup tags, even in a markdown environment. Perhaps there are
 vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
 offers some advantages here--but is that the current best practice?
 
 Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.
 
 Janina
 
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iPhones and VMNO providers

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

  Hi all:

Went to get an iPhone today, and it was a bust from AT&T. *sigh* I'm
thinking about doing one of the MVNO providers that runs off the AT&T
network.

Anyone tried them? Rumors are they can throdle the network speeds and not
all iphone features work.

 

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Re: How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

[Alex Hall]

Sorry in advance for this answer, but you never specified a platform. For 
serious coding, I honestly prefer NVDA on Windows with the Notepad Plus Plus 
text editor. Here's why.

* NVDA can indicate indentation with tones, making it easy and not disruptive 
or chatty to know where I am in terms of levels.
* NVDA lets me customize punctuation level, so I can hear the symbols I need 
to. In the latest macOS, the "most" punctuation level is missing, which was the 
only good one for dealing with code.
* Notepad Plus Plus will auto-indent, has advanced find/replace options, and 
has other features I find useful. I haven't found anything comparable on the 
Mac, and even if I did, my previous points would make its use less than ideal.

Sorry again for the heresy, but that's what I've come to be comfortable with 
and what I find works best. For Markdown specifically, an app called Multi 
Markdown Composer works well on the Mac. It's free to try, but to open multiple 
documents you'll have to pay to unlock it. I like it because I can vo-j between 
my text and a live updating HTML view of what my Markdown will look like as 
HTML.

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> On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:33, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
> markdown.
> 
> What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
> user?
> 
> My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
> came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
> but it can be difficult to understand and properly edit content in the
> midst of markup tags, even in a markdown environment. Perhaps there are
> vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
> offers some advantages here--but is that the current best practice?
> 
> Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.
> 
> Janina
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures  http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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Re: UEB and other commands using the Focus new Gen on the I phone.

[Jonathan Cohn]

I find this surprising, generally I find interpretation of these patterns are 
related to the Screen Reader  and not the braille display. Though I suppose 
that it is possible that VO is not recognizing the Focus but in that case I 
would expect more extreme issues. 

Did you verify everything is configured right in the Braille section of the VO 
Utility?
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 18, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mark.
> 
> You have it right, on the 5th generation of Focus the dot 4 dot 1 will not 
> produce the at sign and nor will dots 4 6 dots 3 6 to produce the underscore 
> when trying to write an e-mail address.
> 
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 17 Feb 2018, at 17:47, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello David,
>> 
>> I believe Kawal is saying that, unlike on the previous generations of Focus 
>> Braille displays, the standard keyboard Braille entry commands, such as 
>> dot-4, 1, for the @ symbol, are not working on her fifth generation Focus 40 
>> Blue.  
>> 
>> It will be interesting to see if any other Focus Fifth Generation user is 
>> experiencing the same problem.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 10:38 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: UEB and other commands using the Focus new Gen on the I phone.
>> 
>> In UEB, for at sign, it is dot 4 followed by dot 1.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2018, at 09:07, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All. 
>>> 
>>> I have been using my new generation Focus 40 for just over a week now.
>>> 
>>> I have a few questions to ask regarding UEB as I normally write in UEB 
>>> these days as I can't remember the Standard English Braille Code although 
>>> that is what I grew up with!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I have noticed that some of the operations have changed with this 
>>> new Focus, as before I could do Chord e for new line. Now this doesn't seem 
>>> to work and instead I am pressing dot 8 for a new line.
>>> 
>>> However, this is not the case when you want to send a message, as new line 
>>> sends the message. So how can I do new line which doesn't send the message?
>>> 
>>> Also if I want to put the at sign in, how would one do this,  as I use to 
>>> do dot four a for the at sign but that is not the case and so I am just 
>>> pressing dot 4. Each time I press dots 2 5 6 it says DD rather than the 
>>> full stop. 
>>> 
>>> i hope that you David will reply although I am happy for anyone to reply to 
>>> me.
>>> 
>>> thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

[Brandon A. Olivares]

I usually use Textedit, though I'll also sometimes use the editor in Transmit, 
just because it's simple and I like it. Coda is also great.

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I usually just use TextEdit in text mode, which probably doesn't help you 
> much.  Most of the text apps weren't particularly accessible in the past, so 
> I just got used to making due.  I'm not in the HTML coding environment enough 
> lately to need anything else, but that's just my use-case environment.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 15:15, Aleeha Dudley  > wrote:
> 
> I like CotEditor, although I am admittedly a beginner with this stuff. 
> Aleeha 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
>> I have been using textedit on the Macintosh which provides very little 
>> support. 
>> 
>> I started looking at Panic's coda editor because it appears to have been 
>> installed on my work computer. I was able to review Markup code but I didn't 
>> really get a chance to experiment.
>> 
>> I have also heard somebody recommend Visual Studio Code from Microsoft, 
>> which is supposed to run on Mac, Linux and Windows. I have no idea how large 
>> VSCode is but they certainly have documentation on how to access 
>> functionality with the keyboard.
>> 
>> I also once talked with the developers of Ulysses for Mac 
>>  they indicated the application appeared to work fine 
>> with VoiceOver. I believe it uses subscription based pricing after the first 
>> two weeks of use.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:33 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All:
>>> 
>>> Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
>>> markdown.
>>> 
>>> What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
>>> user?
>>> 
>>> My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
>>> came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
>>> but it can be difficult to understand and properly edit content in the
>>> midst of markup tags, even in a markdown environment. Perhaps there are
>>> vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
>>> offers some advantages here--but is that the current best practice?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I usually just use TextEdit in text mode, which probably doesn't help you much. 
 Most of the text apps weren't particularly accessible in the past, so I just 
got used to making due.  I'm not in the HTML coding environment enough lately 
to need anything else, but that's just my use-case environment.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 19, 2018, at 15:15, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:

I like CotEditor, although I am admittedly a beginner with this stuff. 
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> I have been using textedit on the Macintosh which provides very little 
> support. 
> 
> I started looking at Panic's coda editor because it appears to have been 
> installed on my work computer. I was able to review Markup code but I didn't 
> really get a chance to experiment.
> 
> I have also heard somebody recommend Visual Studio Code from Microsoft, which 
> is supposed to run on Mac, Linux and Windows. I have no idea how large VSCode 
> is but they certainly have documentation on how to access functionality with 
> the keyboard.
> 
> I also once talked with the developers of Ulysses for Mac 
>  they indicated the application appeared to work fine 
> with VoiceOver. I believe it uses subscription based pricing after the first 
> two weeks of use.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:33 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
>> markdown.
>> 
>> What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
>> user?
>> 
>> My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
>> came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
>> but it can be difficult to understand and properly edit content in the
>> midst of markup tags, even in a markdown environment. Perhaps there are
>> vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
>> offers some advantages here--but is that the current best practice?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
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Re: How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

[Aleeha Dudley]

I like CotEditor, although I am admittedly a beginner with this stuff. 
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I have been using textedit on the Macintosh which provides very little 
> support. 
> 
> I started looking at Panic's coda editor because it appears to have been 
> installed on my work computer. I was able to review Markup code but I didn't 
> really get a chance to experiment.
> 
> I have also heard somebody recommend Visual Studio Code from Microsoft, which 
> is supposed to run on Mac, Linux and Windows. I have no idea how large VSCode 
> is but they certainly have documentation on how to access functionality with 
> the keyboard.
> 
> I also once talked with the developers of Ulysses for Mac they indicated the 
> application appeared to work fine with VoiceOver. I believe it uses 
> subscription based pricing after the first two weeks of use.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:33 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
>> markdown.
>> 
>> What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
>> user?
>> 
>> My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
>> came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
>> but it can be difficult to understand and properly edit content in the
>> midst of markup tags, even in a markdown environment. Perhaps there are
>> vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
>> offers some advantages here--but is that the current best practice?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
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>> 
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Re: VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi ray,
Thanks.
I'll check it out.
Chuck

On Feb 19, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

> You can get it from the app store but be prepaired to pay quite a bit for it. 
>  About $139.95 I think.
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:39 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi ray,
>> Thanks,
>> Where did you get screenflow?
>> and how much is it?
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Some use Imovie to do this.  I, however, cannot install Imovie on my Mac 
>>> because it’s too old.  So, I use Screenflow.  Let me clarify.  The latest 
>>> version of Imovie will not install on my mid 2009 Mac book pro because it’s 
>>> too old.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>> 
 On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:10 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
  wrote:
 
 Hi List,
 Subject says it all!
 Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
 I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export 
 it as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to 
 demonstrate what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
 Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
 Thanks
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Re: How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have been using textedit on the Macintosh which provides very little support. 

I started looking at Panic's coda editor because it appears to have been 
installed on my work computer. I was able to review Markup code but I didn't 
really get a chance to experiment.

I have also heard somebody recommend Visual Studio Code from Microsoft, which 
is supposed to run on Mac, Linux and Windows. I have no idea how large VSCode 
is but they certainly have documentation on how to access functionality with 
the keyboard.

I also once talked with the developers of Ulysses for Mac  
they indicated the application appeared to work fine with VoiceOver. I believe 
it uses subscription based pricing after the first two weeks of use.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:33 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
> markdown.
> 
> What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
> user?
> 
> My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
> came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
> but it can be difficult to understand and properly edit content in the
> midst of markup tags, even in a markdown environment. Perhaps there are
> vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
> offers some advantages here--but is that the current best practice?
> 
> Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.
> 
> Janina
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
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Re: Getting Voiceover on iOS to shut up

[Jonathan Cohn]

It has been my experience that a two finger touch performs exactly like the tab 
of a control key for both IOS and Macintosh Trackpad commander.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 15, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Oops, should have read the entire thread first.  Stupid me :).  Thanks for 
> this David, missed that one in my travels.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 15, 2018, at 07:58, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected, then you can use the ctrl key in 
> the same manner I believe, otherwise, I don't believe that it is possible to 
> pause speech.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 23:47, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, I know that command but that’s not quite what I’m after. That totally 
> switches speech on and off, I just want to temporarily silence it like 
> pressing control on the Mac would also do to Voiceover.
> 
>> On 15 Feb 2018, at 08:43, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Triple finger double tap.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 2/14/2018 10:41 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> Is there a way to get Voiceover on iOS to temporarily stop talking similar 
>>> to pressing “control” on the Mac?
>>> Nickus
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Re: using Vo-space inside Safari

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello, 

Control-tab should switch between tabs. I am not sure exactly what you are 
describing for the safari links, but certainly when bringing up the contextual 
menu and selecting open in new tab or window, I find that I need to stop 
interacting to review the rest of the page again. Or are you asking how to 
click back within a web page?


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 15, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> 
> I’m navigating inside safari making the command nav on, when i find a link 
> that i need to click, some times, when i press Vo-space, i can find the link 
> name, but i can not go out from this place, i fell that i must press 
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> can not explain the situation but , hope you can understand me.
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I’m looking for recommendations for apps for the Apple TV. I’m open to any 
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Re: VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[Raymond Foret Jr]

You can get it from the app store but be prepaired to pay quite a bit for it.  
About $139.95 I think.


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:39 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi ray,
> Thanks,
> Where did you get screenflow?
> and how much is it?
> Thanks
> Chuck
> 
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Some use Imovie to do this.  I, however, cannot install Imovie on my Mac 
>> because it’s too old.  So, I use Screenflow.  Let me clarify.  The latest 
>> version of Imovie will not install on my mid 2009 Mac book pro because it’s 
>> too old.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:10 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> Subject says it all!
>>> Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
>>> I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export 
>>> it as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to 
>>> demonstrate what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
>>> Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
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Hello, 
I am upgrading my 2008 iMac to a new model. All is going well except for 
authorising audible for iTunes 12.7. Alas the instructions on the audible web 
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How do you edit markup? e.g. html?

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Hi All:

Just wondering how people manage editing markup files, html, xml, even
markdown.

What tools and approaches have you found most useful as a screen reader
user?

My personal approach is less than optimal, which is how this question
came forward at this time. I'm personally a died in the wool vim user,
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vim tricks I could be better at?  I'm aware that emacspeak actually
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Thanks in advance for sharing your approach.

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Re: VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Sorry Chuck, I'm not aware of any tutorials.  That doesn't necessarily mean 
that there aren't any around, just that I'm not in the know yet.  Most of the 
editing functions are under the Edit menu, and if there's a keyboard shortcut, 
it's indicated beside the menu item.  I believe that cmd-y is used to split the 
clip and cmd-t to trim.



Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 19, 2018, at 08:44, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

Hi tim,
Thanks.
Do you know of any key short cuts for quicktime to facilitate the editing?
Also any tutorials on quick time that you think might be helpful?
Yes I don't think special effects are  needed  for those  "programmers" that 
are going to be receiving these VoiceOver videos! :)
Thanks again Tim for your response.
Chuck

On Feb 18, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You can do basic editing within QuickTime itself.  Splitting, trimming, 
> selecting and therefore moving clips around.  No facility for effects, but 
> I'm not sure if that would be needed in your case.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 17:41, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Some use Imovie to do this.  I, however, cannot install Imovie on my Mac 
> because it’s too old.  So, I use Screenflow.  Let me clarify.  The latest 
> version of Imovie will not install on my mid 2009 Mac book pro because it’s 
> too old.
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:10 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> Subject says it all!
>> Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
>> I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export 
>> it as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to 
>> demonstrate what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
>> Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
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Re: VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi tim,
Thanks.
Do you know of any key short cuts for quicktime to facilitate the editing?
Also any tutorials on quick time that you think might be helpful?
Yes I don't think special effects are  needed  for those  "programmers" that 
are going to be receiving these VoiceOver videos! :)
Thanks again Tim for your response.
Chuck

On Feb 18, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You can do basic editing within QuickTime itself.  Splitting, trimming, 
> selecting and therefore moving clips around.  No facility for effects, but 
> I'm not sure if that would be needed in your case.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 17:41, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Some use Imovie to do this.  I, however, cannot install Imovie on my Mac 
> because it’s too old.  So, I use Screenflow.  Let me clarify.  The latest 
> version of Imovie will not install on my mid 2009 Mac book pro because it’s 
> too old.
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:10 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> Subject says it all!
>> Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
>> I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export 
>> it as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to 
>> demonstrate what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
>> Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
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Re: VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi ray,
Thanks,
Where did you get screenflow?
and how much is it?
Thanks
Chuck

On Feb 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

> Some use Imovie to do this.  I, however, cannot install Imovie on my Mac 
> because it’s too old.  So, I use Screenflow.  Let me clarify.  The latest 
> version of Imovie will not install on my mid 2009 Mac book pro because it’s 
> too old.
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:10 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> Subject says it all!
>> Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
>> I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export 
>> it as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to 
>> demonstrate what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
>> Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
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Re: Smart lights & apple home

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Simon,

I have recently installed the Philips Hue system around my house and the 
process has been completely accessible.

Jeff


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> I’m looking at putting some new light bulbs around my house and was thinking 
> of making it abit smarter as it’s not something I use a lot myself.
>  
> Has anyone used the Philips HUE smart lighting system with apple home or 
> iPhone home and if so how useable is it?
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Re: Braille commands on the Mac.

[Dionipher Herrera]

the space should be press along with the dots? because i haven’t open a menu on 
the braille edge with i can change the clock or notepad

> Il giorno 19 feb 2018, alle ore 00:09, Kawal Gucukoglu  
> ha scritto:
> 
> Here are the commands.
> 
> Commands are listed below.  Can be used on Mac and IOS
> 
> 
> These commands aren't specifc to the Focus, but work on any display with iOS 
> 11. To reply, do the braille display command for the command key, which is 
> space with dots1-7, and then quickly press the letter R. Substitute n for r 
> and you can create a new message. Sending is a bit more comlex. Press space 
> with 1-7, then slace with 4-7 followed by a D. 
> Here are a few more. These work with any display that has a Perkins
> Style keyboard.
> 2-3-5-6 cord, select all
> 1-2-3-6 chord: paste
> 1-4 Chord: copy
> 1-3-4-6 chord: cut
> 2-3-4-6 chord: redo
> 1-3-5-6 chord: undo
> 3-5-6 chord: performs a 3d touch
> 3-6-7-8 chord: double tap and hold
> 3-6 chord: double tap an item
> 1-3-4-5 chord: toggles announcement history
> 1-2-3-4-5-6 chord:  toggles screen curtain
> 2-4 chord: item chooser
> 1-2-3-4-5-7 chord: toggle first letter navigation quicknav
> 1-4-6 chord: hide/unhide the virtual keyboard
> 1-2-3-4-6 chord: create custom lable
> 1-7 chord: activates the command key
> 2-7 chord: activates the Option key
> 3-7 chord: activates the control key
> 4-7 chord: activates the shift key
> 5-7 chord: activates the FN key
> 1-8 chord: toggles the command key
> 2-8 chord: toggles the Option key
> 3-8 chord: toggles the Control key
> 4-8 chord: toggles the shift key
> 5-8 chord: toggles the FN key.
> 
>> On 18 Feb 2018, at 22:53, Michelle emails > > wrote:
>> 
>> hi can you send me a copy as well. I use a focus with my macbook air. 
>> 
>> Many thanks 
>> Michelle 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Feb 2018, at 8:39 am, Kliphton Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> These commands are listed in the users manual on there website.  Let me 
>>> grab the link.  Actually, these commands are listed in an archive on my 
>>> braille display list.  I will send them directly to you.
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2018, at 8:22 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 This morning I have been using my Focus on my Mac and have noticed some 
 good improvements with reading messages using the braille display.
 
 However as I write this message I cannot see any braille and I can't use 
 my braille display to write with.
 
 Is there anything special we need to do to get interaction with writing 
 messages on the braille display please?
 
 Also I can't find a way to copy, cut or paste text as you can do so on the 
 I phone.
 
 If I hear that we can't do this then I'll write to Accessibility.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Smart lights & apple home

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi there
As for smart lighting in general, I did some research on this the past few 
weeks and it seams Philips Hue is definately the way to go even though it’s not 
the cheapest out there.

As for accessibility of the Hue app on iOS, I was actually about to ask the 
same question on the list today. I downloaded the app but can’t really test it 
without having a Hue device.

However if the app is not accessible, with Voiceover, after initial setup 
everything can be controlled by voice if you add a HomePod or Amazon Echo in to 
your system, so usability shouldn’t really be a issue even if not accessible.

I think if having a couple of people in the house a smart speaker to be able to 
control it by voice will anyway be the way to go.

> On 19 Feb 2018, at 10:20, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking at putting some new light bulbs around my house and was thinking 
> of making it abit smarter as it’s not something I use a lot myself.
>  
> Has anyone used the Philips HUE smart lighting system with apple home or 
> iPhone home and if so how useable is it?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon F
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RE: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

[Karen Lewellen]

Interesting read.
In Canada, the cRTC  who regulates wireless services among other things 
made it mandatory that mobile providers unlock phones when requested free 
of charge as of December.  further all new models must be sold unlocked.
goal here is for consumers are not stuck waiting to change,  or lose out 
on a smartphone investment they wish to keep just because they move 
elsewhere.

Kare


On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:


Well that makes me glad I live in NZ,

Pretty much all phones are unlocked
If you do get a locked device it's $30 to unlock it and that's something you 
can do from the time you buy the device,
No time line

I've always got my iPhones from apple directly anyway so they are always 
unlocked.

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Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2018 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

Unlocked phones vs. locked phones: Why you should care In this edition of Ask 
Maggie, CNET's Marguerite Reardon breaks down what you need to know about the 
carrier practice of locking phones.
By Marguerite Reardon, February 17, 2018 5:00 AM PST

FAQ

Should you get an unlocked phone?
The US wireless market is more competitive than ever, which is great news for 
consumers who have lots of choices when it comes choosing a service provider.
But one barrier still exists when trying to switch carriers: the locked 
smartphone.

The end of wireless contracts marked a watershed trend for consumers because it 
finally opened the door for them to more easily shop around for alternative 
wireless carriers. But the software locks that carriers put on phones 
restricting its use on other networks still prevent many consumers from having 
total freedom when it comes to choosing a provider.

Now Verizon, the only wireless carrier that sold its phones unlocked out of the 
box, is reversing course. The company said earlier this week it would begin 
locking the phones it sells to consumers for an undetermined period of time, 
which will prevent them from using a SIM card from another carrier.
But Verizon promised it would eventually unlock the device after activation.
The company hasn't said how long that period would be.

Verizon said it's doing this to deter criminals from stealing phones, which are 
often stolen en route to retail stores or from the stores themselves.
Unlocked phones make attractive targets because they can be resold on the black 
market or used overseas with different carriers. That's particularly the case 
for iPhones, which are a top target for thieves because of their high resale 
value.

Because I get so many questions about the difference between locked versus 
unlocked phones and what it means to the average wireless customer, I've put 
together this FAQ for my Ask Maggie readers to summarize the basics.

What's the difference between a locked and unlocked phone?
The difference is that a locked phone has a software code on it that prevents 
you from using it on another network. An unlocked phone either doesn't have the 
software lock on it or someone was able to get a code that unlocks the 
software. Once a device is unlocked, you can pop out the SIM card and put in a 
different SIM and get service.

What's the benefit of having an unlocked phone?
The biggest benefit of having an unlocked phone is that if you want to switch 
wireless operators, you can easily do that. All you have to do is pop in a new 
SIM and sign up for service. There's no need to buy a new phone.
This is great because it lets you shop around for the cheapest service instead 
of being stuck with a particular carrier because you don't want to buy a new 
phone.

This flexibility can also come in handy for people traveling overseas. It's 
usually less expensive to use a local wireless service while traveling abroad. 
And again, you simply pop out the SIM card in your phone and replace it with 
one from a local carrier. And voila! You will have a new local number and it 
will be cheaper to make calls in country and access the internet than if you 
used a US carrier's service that would require roaming on the foreign network.

Does GSM vs CDMA still matter?
Yes, the voice networks of US wireless carriers still use two fundamentally 
different technologies GSM and CDMA. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, while AT&T 
and T-Mobile along with most of the rest of the world use GSM.

The good news is that phones are a bit more compatible and portable among 
carriers than they were a few years ago. But phone makers, like Apple, still 
tend to make multiple versions of their phones so you need to know which model 
you're buying before you can know if you can take it to another carrier.
For instance, Apple sells two versions of  the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus and X. 
Unlocked versions of these phones that aren't sold through a carrier are co

Smart lights & apple home

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi List,

I'm looking at putting some new light bulbs around my house and was thinking of 
making it abit smarter as it's not something I use a lot myself.

Has anyone used the Philips HUE smart lighting system with apple home or iPhone 
home and if so how useable is it?

Cheers,


Simon F

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RE: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

Well that makes me glad I live in NZ,

Pretty much all phones are unlocked 
If you do get a locked device it's $30 to unlock it and that's something you 
can do from the time you buy the device,
No time line 

I've always got my iPhones from apple directly anyway so they are always 
unlocked.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2018 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

Unlocked phones vs. locked phones: Why you should care In this edition of Ask 
Maggie, CNET's Marguerite Reardon breaks down what you need to know about the 
carrier practice of locking phones.
By Marguerite Reardon, February 17, 2018 5:00 AM PST

FAQ 
 
Should you get an unlocked phone?
The US wireless market is more competitive than ever, which is great news for 
consumers who have lots of choices when it comes choosing a service provider. 
But one barrier still exists when trying to switch carriers: the locked 
smartphone. 

The end of wireless contracts marked a watershed trend for consumers because it 
finally opened the door for them to more easily shop around for alternative 
wireless carriers. But the software locks that carriers put on phones 
restricting its use on other networks still prevent many consumers from having 
total freedom when it comes to choosing a provider. 
 
Now Verizon, the only wireless carrier that sold its phones unlocked out of the 
box, is reversing course. The company said earlier this week it would begin 
locking the phones it sells to consumers for an undetermined period of time, 
which will prevent them from using a SIM card from another carrier.
But Verizon promised it would eventually unlock the device after activation.
The company hasn't said how long that period would be. 

Verizon said it's doing this to deter criminals from stealing phones, which are 
often stolen en route to retail stores or from the stores themselves.
Unlocked phones make attractive targets because they can be resold on the black 
market or used overseas with different carriers. That's particularly the case 
for iPhones, which are a top target for thieves because of their high resale 
value. 

Because I get so many questions about the difference between locked versus 
unlocked phones and what it means to the average wireless customer, I've put 
together this FAQ for my Ask Maggie readers to summarize the basics.

What's the difference between a locked and unlocked phone? 
The difference is that a locked phone has a software code on it that prevents 
you from using it on another network. An unlocked phone either doesn't have the 
software lock on it or someone was able to get a code that unlocks the 
software. Once a device is unlocked, you can pop out the SIM card and put in a 
different SIM and get service. 

What's the benefit of having an unlocked phone?
The biggest benefit of having an unlocked phone is that if you want to switch 
wireless operators, you can easily do that. All you have to do is pop in a new 
SIM and sign up for service. There's no need to buy a new phone.
This is great because it lets you shop around for the cheapest service instead 
of being stuck with a particular carrier because you don't want to buy a new 
phone. 

This flexibility can also come in handy for people traveling overseas. It's 
usually less expensive to use a local wireless service while traveling abroad. 
And again, you simply pop out the SIM card in your phone and replace it with 
one from a local carrier. And voila! You will have a new local number and it 
will be cheaper to make calls in country and access the internet than if you 
used a US carrier's service that would require roaming on the foreign network. 

Does GSM vs CDMA still matter?
Yes, the voice networks of US wireless carriers still use two fundamentally 
different technologies GSM and CDMA. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, while AT&T 
and T-Mobile along with most of the rest of the world use GSM.  

The good news is that phones are a bit more compatible and portable among 
carriers than they were a few years ago. But phone makers, like Apple, still 
tend to make multiple versions of their phones so you need to know which model 
you're buying before you can know if you can take it to another carrier. 
For instance, Apple sells two versions of  the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus and 
X. Unlocked versions of these phones that aren't sold through a carrier are 
compatible on all four US carriers. The iPhones sold through Verizon or Sprint 
can also be used on both CDMA and GSM networks, which means they are compatible 
with AT&T and T-Mobile. But iPhones sold through AT&T and T-Mobile don't 
include modems for CDMA, so they can't be used for voice service on Verizon or 
Sprint. 

The bottom line is that you should check before you buy if you think there's a 
chance you'll be switchin