Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Brad Snyder]

Once you type a URL or a search query into the address field, you then press 
enter and then navigate to the web content area, just like you would do in any 
other web browser on any other platform/OS.


- Brad -


On Dec 5, 2020, at 23:08, Fazil  wrote:

Thanks much, Brad.
Once I am done typing address, should I hit enter key or VO-spacebar? When I 
hit enter, voiceover says contents selected or failed to open page etc.
I am not sure what to do next.
Thanks!
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
 
When you hear voiceOver say “Safari has no windows”, you should do CMD + N, to 
open a new Safari window.
Then do CMD + L, to make sure focus is on the address field, and type in 
whatever it is you want to do with Safari.

- Brad -

 
On Dec 5, 2020, at 18:36, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
When I open Safari, VoiceOver says:
“Safari has no windows.”
Should I assume that I do not have internet connection on this Mac?
Thanks!
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
 
If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?
I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.
 
 
Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn






> On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil  > wrote:
>  
> Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.
> I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network 
> is checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If 
> yes, Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that 
> mean that Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu 
> called wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you 
> have a password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your 
> wifi.
>  
> HTH,
> Cait
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Fazil > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Group.
>> I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
>> System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>> Thanks!
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Setting Date and Time In Mac?

[Fazil]

Thanks much everyone who helped me with my internet connection.

Voiceover finally told me that my date and time is in correct and I should
fix it in order to connect to the internet.

How can I reset date and time, please?

Thanks!

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What is "Fast Searching" in the VO Utility?

[Dave Carlson]

It’s in the navigation area. Can’t figure out what it’s supposed to do.

Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

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Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Dave Carlson]

Fazil,
At this point it sounds like you need to tell your Mac the IP address of your 
Wi-Fi router. If your other computer and iPHone are able to use that Wi-Fi and 
get connected, I don’t know what else to suggest.
Something very basic has not been set up on your Mac.
Under System Preferences, in the Network section, is Wi-Fi showing that it’s 
connected? If not, your problem starts there.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Fazil  wrote:

Thanks much, Brad.
Once I am done typing address, should I hit enter key or VO-spacebar? When I 
hit enter, voiceover says contents selected or failed to open page etc.
I am not sure what to do next.
Thanks!
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
 
When you hear voiceOver say “Safari has no windows”, you should do CMD + N, to 
open a new Safari window.
Then do CMD + L, to make sure focus is on the address field, and type in 
whatever it is you want to do with Safari.

- Brad -

 
On Dec 5, 2020, at 18:36, Fazil  wrote:
 
When I open Safari, VoiceOver says:
“Safari has no windows.”
Should I assume that I do not have internet connection on this Mac?
Thanks!
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
 
If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?
I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.
 
 
Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn






> On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil  wrote:
>  
> Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.
> I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network 
> is checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If 
> yes, Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that 
> mean that Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu 
> called wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you 
> have a password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your 
> wifi.
>  
> HTH,
> Cait
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Group.
>> I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
>> System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>> Thanks!
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RE: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Brad.

Once I am done typing address, should I hit enter key or VO-spacebar? When I 
hit enter, voiceover says contents selected or failed to open page etc.

I am not sure what to do next.

Thanks!

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

When you hear voiceOver say “Safari has no windows”, you should do CMD + N, to 
open a new Safari window.

Then do CMD + L, to make sure focus is on the address field, and type in 
whatever it is you want to do with Safari.


- Brad -

 

On Dec 5, 2020, at 18:36, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

When I open Safari, VoiceOver says:

“Safari has no windows.”

Should I assume that I do not have internet connection on this Mac?

Thanks!

 

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<  macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries <  
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?

I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.

 

 

Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn









On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil <  
fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.

I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network is 
checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If yes, 
Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that mean that 
Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?

Thanks!

 

 

 

From:   macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<  macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
To:   macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

Hi,

 

Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu called 
wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you have a 
password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your wifi.

 

HTH,

Cait

 







On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Fazil <  
fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.

Am I doing something wrong?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Re: system voice irritation

[jean parker]

Jonathan:
Would that turn on quicktime from anywhere? The problems isn’t really starting 
play but navigating from zoom to the video player. If quick time or whatever 
could be started from zoom that would make it possible to turn off voice over 
thereby eliminating the possibility of the system voice interfering with 
things. 
VLC is a bit easier to manage. For whatever reason, the hot keys in Quicktime 
have never worked correctly for me. 
Jean


> On 5 Dec 2020, at 7:05 pm, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> For QuickTime, I am sure I could create an AppleScript that just tells 
> quicktime to either toggle playing or start playing. I don't know if VLC 
> accepts apple events, but at least you could create a automation that would 
> tell VLC to open a file.
> In terminal this would be something close to:
> open -a vlc myMP3File.mp3 
> Which could be encapsulated into a AppleScript or Automation with the "do 
> shell script" command.
> Feel free to write me off list if you want details on doing this.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 22:42, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Sometimes the screen share doesn’t go directly to vlc or quicktime though so 
>> it would be difficult to know where you are when command shifting around. I 
>> will do further experiments however.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Dec 2020, at 8:16 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I do a screen share on Zoom, I am usually playing some kind of content 
>>> using QuickTime Player, which I have cued-up and ready to play.  As soon as 
>>> I begin Zoom screen share, I turn off VoiceOver, and CMD + Tab to the 
>>> QuickTime Player app, and hit the Spacebar to begin play.  when the program 
>>> is done, I CMD + Tab back to Zoom, and stop screen share using the keyboard 
>>> command, then I turn VoiceOver back on.
>>> I’ve done this many times, and have the routine down.  It all goes well, 
>>> until something goes wrong, and then I have to problem solve, which I am 
>>> also pretty good at doing. 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 17:10, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you keep track of where are? For example, when you share a video and 
>>> you need to switch apps to get to the video player how do you know where 
>>> you are if vo is off?
>>> Once you are in the app you can use hot keys or whatever.
>>> 
>>> BTW, are you using Big Sur? I am having some issues, not really 
>>> access-related but still.
>>> 
>>> Anyway thanks for getting back to me on this.
>>> Jean
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Dec 2020, at 4:04 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 I have never enabled the voice through, Accessibility > Speech, so I am 
 not experiencing any issues with silencing speech during a Zoom Screen 
 Share.
 When Screen Sharing, I turn off VoiceOver until I am done, and have been 
 doing it this way for a long time with out any issue.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2020, at 16:56, jean parker  wrote:
 
 Hi:
 
 Yes, I read your message and followed the directions. No luck getting rid 
 of it though.
 
 
> On 3 Dec 2020, at 3:54 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Routing VoiceOver to an external sound device or bluetooth headset, does 
> not resolve the issue of speech during a Zoom Screen Share, because the 
> system voice that has been enabled in Accessibility > Speech is not 
> VoiceOver, and is not affected by rerouting VoiceOver.
> The issue can only be resolved by turning off the accessibility voice
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2020, at 16:04, radiof...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All:
> I have been following the system voice thread with some interest. The 
> fact that the system voice can not be turned off is a constant annoyance. 
> I have reported this to Apple and asked for a feature request or whatever 
> they call it. This is particularly problematic when doing screen sharing 
> in zoom or other platforms. Rerouting voiceover to a usb headset or other 
> external sound card renders inconsistent results at best.
> If others feel the same way please let Apple know.
> Jean
> 
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RE: Connecting My Mac to WIfi?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Mr. Cohn.

I followed your instructions. My network was checked and when I hit enter key 
on it, the system took me to Safari and VoiceOver said “Safari Has no windows.”

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 6:17 PM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Connecting My Mac to WIfi?

 

Hello,

If you press VO-M twice, you should arrive in the menu extras area of the menu 
bar. Now moving right until you hear wifi. 

At this point you usually need to press VO-space to activate the menu. Move up 
and down the menu until you find the network you want to connect to and then 
press return.

At this point the Mac should ask you for any credentials you might need. Note, 
if you already have an iPhone, then the iPhone might push the WIFi password to 
your computer if bluetooth is on for both systems, and  in fact if anybody in 
the network has an Apple product running a current OS, it should be able to 
push the password to you, I can't remember the exact request process.

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:00, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I am new to my MacBookPro 2017.

How can I connect it to WI-FI, please?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Re: Preparin for Watch SE arrival.

[Brad Snyder]

In my experience, it doesn’t matter where on the watch screen you do the 
1-finger double tap to activate Taptic time.  Anywhere should do it.
Doing a 1-finger double tap will get you the time in hour:minutes, and a 
1-finger triple tap will tell you just the minutes of the hour.
It is a nice feature.

- Brad -


On Dec 5, 2020, at 21:57, Janet Ingber  wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
Sorry to hear about your fall.  The watch is a very nice Chanukah present.

The time feature you mentioned is taptic time.  In other words, instead of 
VoiceOver speaking the time, just do a one-finger  double tap on the face.  try 
to do it closer to the top of the screen. Here’s how to set it up.
On your watch or iPhone, go to Clock. Flick right to Taptic Time and activate 
the toggle button, if it is not already on. On the new screen choose how you 
want apple Watch to tell time. There are three options. I use the  Digits 
option.  VoiceOver will explain each option.

Your watch will mirror your iPhone regarding notifications. Make sure 
Notifications is activated on your watch.  You can do this from the Watch app 
on your iPhone or   or directly  on  your watch.

Hope this makes sense.

Best,
Janet

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> For years while on this list, I have deleted anything with the subject line 
> of watch. Now because of fall monitoring, and falling down a set of stairs 
> earlier this year, my wife is presenting me with a Apple Watch for Chanuka. 
> So, what else can I do reasonably with this besides monitoring my health? 
> What is this about tapping time feedback.
> How do I get just the notifications I want on the watch!
> Thanks!
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: help with mac mail

[Brad Snyder]

I’m pretty sure that Big Sur will run on your late 2013 iMac.  I think the 
cutoff is 2012 and earlier Macs that won’t take Big Sur.
To find out, go to System Preferences > Software Update, and see if the Big Sur 
update is available.

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On Dec 5, 2020, at 21:37, FIOGKOS  wrote:

Thank you so much, if you remember or find out how to add the junk folder 
please inform me because it is just a preference thing, I really would like to 
have my junk folder in view just like I do on my iPhone. I am not on big sir, I 
am on Catalina. I have a late 2013 iMac and was told that I cannot get the big 
sir update.


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> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Your first issue is because of "recent recipients". You probably replied to a 
> message from Donna, and since it actually went to the list, apple added her 
> name and the macvisionaries address to your recent recipient list. If you 
> open contacts and create a contact for the Macvisionaries list with the 
> e-mail address, then Macintosh Mail should put your Alias name there instead 
> of Donna.
> 
> In terms of the Junk folder, in BigSir, they hide the "All Junk" folder by 
> default.  there was a conversation about adding it back in, but I can't 
> remember the process correctly while testing before sending this message. 
> There is a area in the mail preferences about what to do with junk mail, but 
> the only way I can find my Junk folders is to inspect the individual mail 
> address I have att.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 21:20, Zoe Fiogkos > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
>> Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in 
>> many ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this 
>> message and sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I 
>> feel i’m making a little progress on the Mac.
>> I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
>> #1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start 
>> to type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  i hear donna gooden at 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com .
>> obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message 
>> to the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work 
>> around on my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
>> #2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
>> correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
>> favourites?
>> Thanks Zoe
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Re: help with mac mail

[Brad Snyder]

Jonathan is correct about the recent recipient list.  I have experienced this 
same thing when replying to messages from this list.
If you type “macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
” in the To field of a new mail 
message, then the group address will be in your Mac Mail previous recipients 
list going forward.

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On Dec 5, 2020, at 20:45, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello,
Your first issue is because of "recent recipients". You probably replied to a 
message from Donna, and since it actually went to the list, apple added her 
name and the macvisionaries address to your recent recipient list. If you open 
contacts and create a contact for the Macvisionaries list with the e-mail 
address, then Macintosh Mail should put your Alias name there instead of Donna.

In terms of the Junk folder, in BigSir, they hide the "All Junk" folder by 
default.  there was a conversation about adding it back in, but I can't 
remember the process correctly while testing before sending this message. There 
is a area in the mail preferences about what to do with junk mail, but the only 
way I can find my Junk folders is to inspect the individual mail address I have 
att.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 21:20, Zoe Fiogkos  > wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
> Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in 
> many ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this 
> message and sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I 
> feel i’m making a little progress on the Mac.
> I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
> #1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start 
> to type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  i hear donna gooden at 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com .
> obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message to 
> the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work around on 
> my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
> #2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
> correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
> favourites?
> Thanks Zoe
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Re: Preparin for Watch SE arrival.

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Jonathan,
Sorry to hear about your fall.  The watch is a very nice Chanukah present.

The time feature you mentioned is taptic time.  In other words, instead of 
VoiceOver speaking the time, just do a one-finger  double tap on the face.  try 
to do it closer to the top of the screen. Here’s how to set it up.
On your watch or iPhone, go to Clock. Flick right to Taptic Time and activate 
the toggle button, if it is not already on. On the new screen choose how you 
want apple Watch to tell time. There are three options. I use the  Digits 
option.  VoiceOver will explain each option.

Your watch will mirror your iPhone regarding notifications. Make sure 
Notifications is activated on your watch.  You can do this from the Watch app 
on your iPhone or   or directly  on  your watch.

Hope this makes sense.

Best,
Janet

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> For years while on this list, I have deleted anything with the subject line 
> of watch. Now because of fall monitoring, and falling down a set of stairs 
> earlier this year, my wife is presenting me with a Apple Watch for Chanuka. 
> So, what else can I do reasonably with this besides monitoring my health? 
> What is this about tapping time feedback.
> How do I get just the notifications I want on the watch!
> Thanks!
> Jonathan
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Re: help with mac mail

[FIOGKOS]

Thank you so much, if you remember or find out how to add the junk folder 
please inform me because it is just a preference thing, I really would like to 
have my junk folder in view just like I do on my iPhone. I am not on big sir, I 
am on Catalina. I have a late 2013 iMac and was told that I cannot get the big 
sir update.


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> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Your first issue is because of "recent recipients". You probably replied to a 
> message from Donna, and since it actually went to the list, apple added her 
> name and the macvisionaries address to your recent recipient list. If you 
> open contacts and create a contact for the Macvisionaries list with the 
> e-mail address, then Macintosh Mail should put your Alias name there instead 
> of Donna.
> 
> In terms of the Junk folder, in BigSir, they hide the "All Junk" folder by 
> default.  there was a conversation about adding it back in, but I can't 
> remember the process correctly while testing before sending this message. 
> There is a area in the mail preferences about what to do with junk mail, but 
> the only way I can find my Junk folders is to inspect the individual mail 
> address I have att.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 21:20, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
>> Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in 
>> many ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this 
>> message and sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I 
>> feel i’m making a little progress on the Mac.
>> I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
>> #1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start 
>> to type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com i hear donna gooden at 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message 
>> to the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work 
>> around on my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
>> #2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
>> correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
>> favourites?
>> Thanks Zoe
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Re: Big Sur has my MacBook Pro hard drive held prisoner

[Jonathan Cohn]

BigSir  has done things in a different way from all earlier os's. The main 
system is a snapshot that is readonly and very hard protected. If you look at 
Macintosh HD< you should see two volumes within it, one the system volume and 
the other data. I expect you can only change the data one. Also, you might want 
to temporarily turn off System Integrity Protection. Do some googling. Or you 
might just want to create a new user if it is user settings that are causing 
issues.
The other option I can think of is to use a USB or connected external drive 
with a BigSir installer on it. I have actually been able to boot my a Macintosh 
from a time machine drive to do major work, but that was with Catalina, so 
things might have changed.
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 4, 2020, at 13:08, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I installed Big Sur on my MacBook Pro when it first came out.
> 
> I was having some issues that I was hoping to resolve by erasing my drive and 
> starting over.
> 
> When I went into disk utilities, I wasn't able to erase my drive, that option 
> was dimmed out.
> 
> So I went into recovery mode hoping to do the same thing.
> Same results.
> 
> Where should I look to enable writing to the drive to try and get things 
> straightened out.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bob Hill
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Re: help with mac mail

[Dave Carlson]

This Donna thing happens to me all the time. Don’t worry, it’s going to the Mac 
Visionaries list, but for some reason the alias defaults to the most recent 
poster, I think.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

On Dec 5, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:

Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in many 
ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this message and 
sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I feel i’m making 
a little progress on the Mac.
I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
#1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start to 
type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com i hear donna gooden at 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message to 
the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work around on 
my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
#2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
favourites?
Thanks Zoe

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Re: help with mac mail

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
Your first issue is because of "recent recipients". You probably replied to a 
message from Donna, and since it actually went to the list, apple added her 
name and the macvisionaries address to your recent recipient list. If you open 
contacts and create a contact for the Macvisionaries list with the e-mail 
address, then Macintosh Mail should put your Alias name there instead of Donna.

In terms of the Junk folder, in BigSir, they hide the "All Junk" folder by 
default.  there was a conversation about adding it back in, but I can't 
remember the process correctly while testing before sending this message. There 
is a area in the mail preferences about what to do with junk mail, but the only 
way I can find my Junk folders is to inspect the individual mail address I have 
att.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 21:20, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
> Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in 
> many ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this 
> message and sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I 
> feel i’m making a little progress on the Mac.
> I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
> #1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start 
> to type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com i hear donna gooden at 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message to 
> the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work around on 
> my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
> #2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
> correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
> favourites?
> Thanks Zoe
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Re: help with mac mail

[Herbie Allen]

In regarcs to the first issue, make sure Donna isn't in your contacts. 

Herbie

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 20:20, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
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> Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
> Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in 
> many ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this 
> message and sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I 
> feel i’m making a little progress on the Mac.
> I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
> #1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start 
> to type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com i hear donna gooden at 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message to 
> the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work around on 
> my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
> #2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
> correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
> favourites?
> Thanks Zoe
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Re: VMware and no audio while using windows 10 as the guest operating system. Any suggestions on how I can get audio?

[Jonathan Cohn]

In systems newer then Catalina, you need to give VMWare access to several 
things in the privacy area. One of these should be sound. The other possibility 
is to make sure that you have a virtual sound card enabled on the VM. I have 
never started from scratch on creating a VM, but in the settings area, there 
are places to create virtual networks, disk drives and other I/O devices.
But again, first make sure that VMWare has all the permissions enabled in 
system settings privacy.
Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 16:31, maurice Mines  wrote:
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> Good afternoon my subject line put in much states my problem. The only access 
> that I have to my virtual machine it is an older brilliant 40 Braille 
> display. When I woke and the notification area the message appears no audio 
> output device installed. Just for the record I am running vmware fusion 
> Version 12 which of course is running. Mac OS Big Sur. This is running on a 
> 2020 MacBook Pro 13 inch. If I can't come up with a good solution to this 
> problem, i'll have to pay VMware $30 for tech-support. From what I've been 
> able to read it doing some research it appears to be a known issue but the 
> solution does not appear to be rattle at hand. Does anyone have any 
> suggestions? I am pretty much open to anything. Hopefully someone else on the 
> list has had this situation and hopefully has found a solution for it?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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help with mac mail

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Hi everyone, I hope you can all help me.
Please remember i’m new on the Mac. Finally I have mail on my iMac and in many 
ways I like it better so far compaired to windows. I am typing this message and 
sending it from my Mac, and I’m thrilled about this. finally I feel i’m making 
a little progress on the Mac.
I have 2 questions about mail on the mac.
#1 when i want to send mail to this list and i’m in the proper field i start to 
type macvisionaries@googlegroups.com i hear donna gooden at 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
obviously i don’t want to send Donna a message i want to send this message to 
the whole group. This also happends on my iPhone. i’ve found a work around on 
my phone but can’t seem to figure it out on my mac. 
#2 in the favourites i see inbox drafts and i believe trash if i remember 
correctly. where is my junk folder and how can i get it there into my 
favourites?
Thanks Zoe

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Re: Connecting My Mac to WIfi?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
If you press VO-M twice, you should arrive in the menu extras area of the menu 
bar. Now moving right until you hear wifi. 
At this point you usually need to press VO-space to activate the menu. Move up 
and down the menu until you find the network you want to connect to and then 
press return.
At this point the Mac should ask you for any credentials you might need. Note, 
if you already have an iPhone, then the iPhone might push the WIFi password to 
your computer if bluetooth is on for both systems, and  in fact if anybody in 
the network has an Apple product running a current OS, it should be able to 
push the password to you, I can't remember the exact request process.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:00, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> I am new to my MacBookPro 2017.
> How can I connect it to WI-FI, please?
> Any help is much appreciated.
> Thanks!
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Preparin for Watch SE arrival.

[Jonathan Cohn]

For years while on this list, I have deleted anything with the subject line of 
watch. Now because of fall monitoring, and falling down a set of stairs earlier 
this year, my wife is presenting me with a Apple Watch for Chanuka. 
So, what else can I do reasonably with this besides monitoring my health? 
What is this about tapping time feedback.
How do I get just the notifications I want on the watch!
Thanks!
Jonathan



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Re: system voice irritation

[Jonathan Cohn]

For QuickTime, I am sure I could create an AppleScript that just tells 
quicktime to either toggle playing or start playing. I don't know if VLC 
accepts apple events, but at least you could create a automation that would 
tell VLC to open a file.
In terminal this would be something close to:
open -a vlc myMP3File.mp3 
Which could be encapsulated into a AppleScript or Automation with the "do shell 
script" command.
Feel free to write me off list if you want details on doing this.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 3, 2020, at 22:42, jean parker  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes the screen share doesn’t go directly to vlc or quicktime though so 
> it would be difficult to know where you are when command shifting around. I 
> will do further experiments however.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Dec 2020, at 8:16 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> When I do a screen share on Zoom, I am usually playing some kind of content 
>> using QuickTime Player, which I have cued-up and ready to play.  As soon as 
>> I begin Zoom screen share, I turn off VoiceOver, and CMD + Tab to the 
>> QuickTime Player app, and hit the Spacebar to begin play.  when the program 
>> is done, I CMD + Tab back to Zoom, and stop screen share using the keyboard 
>> command, then I turn VoiceOver back on.
>> I’ve done this many times, and have the routine down.  It all goes well, 
>> until something goes wrong, and then I have to problem solve, which I am 
>> also pretty good at doing. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 17:10, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you keep track of where are? For example, when you share a video and 
>> you need to switch apps to get to the video player how do you know where you 
>> are if vo is off?
>> Once you are in the app you can use hot keys or whatever.
>> 
>> BTW, are you using Big Sur? I am having some issues, not really 
>> access-related but still.
>> 
>> Anyway thanks for getting back to me on this.
>> Jean
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Dec 2020, at 4:04 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never enabled the voice through, Accessibility > Speech, so I am not 
>>> experiencing any issues with silencing speech during a Zoom Screen Share.
>>> When Screen Sharing, I turn off VoiceOver until I am done, and have been 
>>> doing it this way for a long time with out any issue.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 16:56, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I read your message and followed the directions. No luck getting rid 
>>> of it though.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Dec 2020, at 3:54 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 Routing VoiceOver to an external sound device or bluetooth headset, does 
 not resolve the issue of speech during a Zoom Screen Share, because the 
 system voice that has been enabled in Accessibility > Speech is not 
 VoiceOver, and is not affected by rerouting VoiceOver.
 The issue can only be resolved by turning off the accessibility voice
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2020, at 16:04, radiof...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 I have been following the system voice thread with some interest. The fact 
 that the system voice can not be turned off is a constant annoyance. I 
 have reported this to Apple and asked for a feature request or whatever 
 they call it. This is particularly problematic when doing screen sharing 
 in zoom or other platforms. Rerouting voiceover to a usb headset or other 
 external sound card renders inconsistent results at best.
 If others feel the same way please let Apple know.
 Jean
 
 
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Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Brad Snyder]

When you hear voiceOver say “Safari has no windows”, you should do CMD + N, to 
open a new Safari window.
Then do CMD + L, to make sure focus is on the address field, and type in 
whatever it is you want to do with Safari.

- Brad -


On Dec 5, 2020, at 18:36, Fazil  wrote:

When I open Safari, VoiceOver says:
“Safari has no windows.”
Should I assume that I do not have internet connection on this Mac?
Thanks!
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
 
If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?
I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.
 
 
Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




> On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil  > wrote:
>  
> Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.
> I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network 
> is checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If 
> yes, Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that 
> mean that Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu 
> called wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you 
> have a password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your 
> wifi.
>  
> HTH,
> Cait
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Fazil > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Group.
>> I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
>> System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>> Thanks!
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Re: youTube to Mp3

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I use YouTube to MP3 from MediaHuman.com .  It is free 
and VoiceOver accessible..

https://www.mediahuman.com/youtube-to-mp3-converter/ 


- Brad -


On Dec 5, 2020, at 16:02, Christina  wrote:

Greetings,

Can someone please either tell me how to  or recommend an accessible Mac or iOS 
app to turn a video on youTube into an audio only Mp3. 

Thanks so much because this video isn't something I can purchase anywhere and I 
only need the audio since I can't see the video.

Christina

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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[Robert Carter]

Hi All,

I was able to solve my Eero VoiceOver accessibility issues by reinstalling the 
Eero app. It is working properly now.

Robert Carter



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:07 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Jeff and Anders,
> 
> Thanks for these recommendations. I really like the mesh system, which is why 
> we went with Orby in the first place, so I suspect the Eero is more what I’m 
> after. But I’ll definitely keep these in mind.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The Asus router I have is totally accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 5 dec. 2020 kl. 14:51 skrev 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I 2nd the Eero!  It is 100 percent accessible.  I have the eero pro 6, 
>>> mainly because my house is 3000 square feet, 3 people work from home, and 
>>> the reviews are 2nd to non.  It’s accessible from phone and iPad, you can 
>>> block specific websites, even have categories like social media blocked.  
>>> My kids are doing distance learning, so I can block YouTube, twitter, 
>>> facebook on there school devices, but on there personal ones I allow 
>>> YouTube and instagram.  You can pause and resume internet access, and you 
>>> can access the device even when not at home.  Can’t say enough about there 
>>> customer service also.  I had a unit that was defective, they overnighted 
>>> the replacement.  The pro is a bit spendy but the home version is 
>>> affordable.  129 for 1, and there is a discount if you buy the 3 pack.  HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPadPro
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
 
 Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at 
 this point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit 
 at this time.
 
> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security 
> codes they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than 
> the app will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the 
> place where the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to 
> give the Netgear the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
> TIA,
> Donna
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RE: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Fazil]

When I open Safari, VoiceOver says:

“Safari has no windows.”

Should I assume that I do not have internet connection on this Mac?

Thanks!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?

I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.

 

 

Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.

I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network is 
checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If yes, 
Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that mean that 
Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

Hi,

 

Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu called 
wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you have a 
password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your wifi.

 

HTH,

Cait

 






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Hi, Group.

I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.

Am I doing something wrong?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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RE: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Mr. Cohn.

Actually, this is just my third day with Mac, I, therefore, am guessing that 
something is fundamentally wrong on my part. I am not doing something right.

What I do is that I press command+spacebar to bring up spotlight and then type 
here Youtube and expect the website open but it doesn’t open.

I am doing something wrong, right?

Thanks!

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 1:04 PM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?

I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.

 

 

Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.

I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network is 
checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If yes, 
Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that mean that 
Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

 

Hi,

 

Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu called 
wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you have a 
password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your wifi.

 

HTH,

Cait

 






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Hi, Group.

I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.

Am I doing something wrong?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Jeff and Anders,

Thanks for these recommendations. I really like the mesh system, which is why 
we went with Orby in the first place, so I suspect the Eero is more what I’m 
after. But I’ll definitely keep these in mind.
Cheers,
Donna


Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The Asus router I have is totally accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 5 dec. 2020 kl. 14:51 skrev 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> I 2nd the Eero!  It is 100 percent accessible.  I have the eero pro 6, 
>> mainly because my house is 3000 square feet, 3 people work from home, and 
>> the reviews are 2nd to non.  It’s accessible from phone and iPad, you can 
>> block specific websites, even have categories like social media blocked.  My 
>> kids are doing distance learning, so I can block YouTube, twitter, facebook 
>> on there school devices, but on there personal ones I allow YouTube and 
>> instagram.  You can pause and resume internet access, and you can access the 
>> device even when not at home.  Can’t say enough about there customer service 
>> also.  I had a unit that was defective, they overnighted the replacement.  
>> The pro is a bit spendy but the home version is affordable.  129 for 1, and 
>> there is a discount if you buy the 3 pack.  HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPadPro
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at 
>>> this point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at 
>>> this time.
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
 Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
 they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
 will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
 the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
 the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: youTube to Mp3

[Lorie McCloud]

I use Pontes media downloader. it's very accessible. I don't think it's in the 
app store. do a search for Pontes media downloader for Mac.

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Christina  wrote:
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> Greetings,
> 
> Can someone please either tell me how to  or recommend an accessible Mac or 
> iOS app to turn a video on youTube into an audio only Mp3. 
> 
> Thanks so much because this video isn't something I can purchase anywhere and 
> I only need the audio since I can't see the video.
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Re: youTube to Mp3

[Eric Oyen]

handbrake. That’s my go to app. Get a copy of the video from YouTube using a 
downloader and then run it through handbrake.

-Eric


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> Greetings,
> 
> Can someone please either tell me how to  or recommend an accessible Mac or 
> iOS app to turn a video on youTube into an audio only Mp3. 
> 
> Thanks so much because this video isn't something I can purchase anywhere and 
> I only need the audio since I can't see the video.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The Asus router I have is totally accessible too.
/A

> 5 dec. 2020 kl. 14:51 skrev 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> I 2nd the Eero!  It is 100 percent accessible.  I have the eero pro 6, mainly 
> because my house is 3000 square feet, 3 people work from home, and the 
> reviews are 2nd to non.  It’s accessible from phone and iPad, you can block 
> specific websites, even have categories like social media blocked.  My kids 
> are doing distance learning, so I can block YouTube, twitter, facebook on 
> there school devices, but on there personal ones I allow YouTube and 
> instagram.  You can pause and resume internet access, and you can access the 
> device even when not at home.  Can’t say enough about there customer service 
> also.  I had a unit that was defective, they overnighted the replacement.  
> The pro is a bit spendy but the home version is affordable.  129 for 1, and 
> there is a discount if you buy the 3 pack.  HTH
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPadPro
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at 
>> this point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at 
>> this time.
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

I am finding the latest update to the Eero 6 iPhone app much less accessible 
with VoiceOver. I am seeing lots of unlabeled buttons and I cannot change to 
any of the tabs other than the home tab while VoiceOver is running. Are you 
Eero users seeing this as well? I am running iOS 14.2 on an iPhone 12 Pro.

I did call and report this to Eero tech support.

Robert Carter



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:51 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries 
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> I 2nd the Eero!  It is 100 percent accessible.  I have the eero pro 6, mainly 
> because my house is 3000 square feet, 3 people work from home, and the 
> reviews are 2nd to non.  It’s accessible from phone and iPad, you can block 
> specific websites, even have categories like social media blocked.  My kids 
> are doing distance learning, so I can block YouTube, twitter, facebook on 
> there school devices, but on there personal ones I allow YouTube and 
> instagram.  You can pause and resume internet access, and you can access the 
> device even when not at home.  Can’t say enough about there customer service 
> also.  I had a unit that was defective, they overnighted the replacement.  
> The pro is a bit spendy but the home version is affordable.  129 for 1, and 
> there is a discount if you buy the 3 pack.  HTH
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPadPro
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>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at 
>> this point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at 
>> this time.
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: mac OS big sur: alex compact and local voice playing one after the other

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Please everyone report these bugs & similar to apple including screen 
recording.  I feel accessibility is slipping somewhat.  If I had a choice 
I’would go back to the way voiceover was in Sierra.

Andrew
> On 5 Dec 2020, at 18:14, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
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> Hi List,
> 
> Here's a funny but very annoying bug on mac OS big sur.
> 
> I restarted voice over, and now when I change interaction in whatever app I'm 
> in, such as a change of line, change of cell in numbers, going through Vo 
> elements across mail, or any of these types of actions, voice over keeps 
> switching me between alex compact (which I chose as default, as well as all 
> other interaction settings, with all of them at same rates) and the local 
> rachel speech synth which sounds very weird because the rate is set to low 
> for alex, which reflects on this system voice.
> 
> Now I'm having to listen to 2 different voices across my work. Anyone fixed 
> this?
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Re: VMware and no audio while using windows 10 as the guest operating system. Any suggestions on how I can get audio?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Is VMware tools installed?

I have no problems with audio here 0on any of my virtual machines I use with 
windows or others.

Matthew



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:31 PM, maurice Mines  wrote:
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> Good afternoon my subject line put in much states my problem. The only access 
> that I have to my virtual machine it is an older brilliant 40 Braille 
> display. When I woke and the notification area the message appears no audio 
> output device installed. Just for the record I am running vmware fusion 
> Version 12 which of course is running. Mac OS Big Sur. This is running on a 
> 2020 MacBook Pro 13 inch. If I can't come up with a good solution to this 
> problem, i'll have to pay VMware $30 for tech-support. From what I've been 
> able to read it doing some research it appears to be a known issue but the 
> solution does not appear to be rattle at hand. Does anyone have any 
> suggestions? I am pretty much open to anything. Hopefully someone else on the 
> list has had this situation and hopefully has found a solution for it?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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youTube to Mp3

[Christina]

Greetings,

Can someone please either tell me how to  or recommend an accessible Mac or iOS 
app to turn a video on youTube into an audio only Mp3. 

Thanks so much because this video isn't something I can purchase anywhere and I 
only need the audio since I can't see the video.

Christina

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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Donna,
I recently picked up a TP-Link AX6000 wifi 6 router. You set it up
with the tp-link tether app on the iphone. It is really easy to setup
and I've had no problems with the router. My last router was the
Gryphon Unhackable router and its setup is really easy too.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 12/5/20, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
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> On 12/5/20 5:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
>> runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.
>>
>> If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
>> than Open WRT whose web page is:
>>
>> http://openwrt.org
> I fully agree with Janina here. I'm using similar hardware with OpenWRT.
> It works wonderfully with all of my Apple devices (and non-Apple devices
> also). It's your choice of Web browser-based user interface or ssh.
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VMware and no audio while using windows 10 as the guest operating system. Any suggestions on how I can get audio?

[maurice Mines]

Good afternoon my subject line put in much states my problem. The only access 
that I have to my virtual machine it is an older brilliant 40 Braille display. 
When I woke and the notification area the message appears no audio output 
device installed. Just for the record I am running vmware fusion Version 12 
which of course is running. Mac OS Big Sur. This is running on a 2020 MacBook 
Pro 13 inch. If I can't come up with a good solution to this problem, i'll have 
to pay VMware $30 for tech-support. From what I've been able to read it doing 
some research it appears to be a known issue but the solution does not appear 
to be rattle at hand. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am pretty much open 
to anything. Hopefully someone else on the list has had this situation and 
hopefully has found a solution for it?

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

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Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you have four bars then it is not wifi  strength.  First things first, can 
you bring up the google search page?
I believe if you open Safari and the Internet is not available, that a 
diagnostic window will be offered. If you can get to Google then you  should 
probably try running a speed test. I used to use the Apple Network Utility and 
recommend pinging 137.39.1.3 but Apple has removed this  utility, so if you 
want to do network testing, you must open a terminal window.


Since you said that other computers in your house are working, it might be that 
your ISP is limiting the number of connected devices. 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 4, 2020, at 15:51, Fazil  wrote:
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> Thanks much, Ms. Furness, for your help and I do appreciate for that.
> I followed your instructions and now VoiceOver says ‘Wifi on’ and my network 
> is checked and has four bars. Does it mean I am connected to the internet? If 
> yes, Siri still says that she is having problem with connection. Does that 
> mean that Wifi signals are not strong enough for Siri to work?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 12:00 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Not Finding Network in System Preference?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Do a vo plus m twice.  Arrow over to the right and you will find a menu 
> called wifi.  Arrow down to your network’s name and vo space on it.  If you 
> have a password, it will ask for it if you’ve never logged your mac onto your 
> wifi.
>  
> HTH,
> Cait
>  
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Fazil > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Group.
>> I am trying to connect my MacBookPro to Wi-Fi but I don’t find Network in 
>> System Preference. I find here my name and Apple ID.
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>> Thanks!
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

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On 12/5/20 5:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.

If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
than Open WRT whose web page is:

http://openwrt.org
I fully agree with Janina here. I'm using similar hardware with OpenWRT. 
It works wonderfully with all of my Apple devices (and non-Apple devices 
also). It's your choice of Web browser-based user interface or ssh.


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Re: How do I go to a specific page in a Pages document?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, if this is not working then you can open up the view menu and go down to 
the Goto menu. The last item in this sub menu is goto page.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 00:50, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> On my Mac running macOS Catalina, with Pages 10.3.5, I find that CMD + CTRL + 
> G, is the correct keyboard command to go to a specific page in a Pages 
> document.
> 
> It is possible that you are running an older version of Pages and the 
> keyboard commands could be different.
> 
> You may want to go to the menu bar in Pages, and go through the various pull 
> down menus and see what you find.  In most menus, you will find keyboard 
> commands listed for various commands.
> 
> I found the command for going to a specific page, in the View menu, under the 
> “Go To …” submenu.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Dec 4, 2020, at 21:17, Kevin Gibbs  > wrote:
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> I’m running Pages on Mac OS 10.12.6, High Sierra.  I want to be able to go to 
> a specific page in a large Pages document.  The web says I should be able to 
> type CTRL Command G and type a page number.  That’s clearly wrong.  Is there 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Good point re Wifi . Thanks for pointing that out, Joe.
Take care,
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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at this 
> point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at this 
> time.
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Reseting NVRAM on a Mac with a windows installed via bootcamp

[Muhammad Fayed]

Ok thanks a lot 

Regards, 

Mohamed E. Fayed

Mohamed E. Fayed 


> On 5 Dec 2020, at 3:26 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> I did this last week on my 2015 iMac with Boot camp.
> There were no problems.
> As the Mac started and the chime sounded, I pressed and held down 
> R+P+Command+Option until a second chime sounded.
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I wonder what will happen to a Mac device has windows 10 installed on it 
>> using bootcamp if we reset the NVRAM!!! What will happen??
>> 
>> I have faced an issue, but fortunately, it was solved on its own, so I’m 
>> asking for future reference.
>> 
>> I have MBP 2016 15”.
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Re: Now how about accessible modems

[Herbie Allen]

I have a combination modem-router from Netgear which has a very accessible 
interphase. 


Herbie

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> The thread on routers was great. But I think I’m going to need a better 
> modem soon. I have a surfboard modem now and it’s nearing the end of it’s 
> life. How about good accessible easy to use low Learning  curve modems?
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Re: mac OS big sur: alex compact and local voice playing one after the other

[John Panarese]

  If you change the pitch to raise or lower it nd then bring it back to your 
desired level with shift-VO-Command and the arrow, this seems to give you back 
your default voice. This is what I have had to do a few times.


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> Here's a funny but very annoying bug on mac OS big sur.
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> I restarted voice over, and now when I change interaction in whatever app I'm 
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> switching me between alex compact (which I chose as default, as well as all 
> other interaction settings, with all of them at same rates) and the local 
> rachel speech synth which sounds very weird because the rate is set to low 
> for alex, which reflects on this system voice.
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> Now I'm having to listen to 2 different voices across my work. Anyone fixed 
> this?
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mac OS big sur: alex compact and local voice playing one after the other

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi List,

Here's a funny but very annoying bug on mac OS big sur.

I restarted voice over, and now when I change interaction in whatever app I'm 
in, such as a change of line, change of cell in numbers, going through Vo 
elements across mail, or any of these types of actions, voice over keeps 
switching me between alex compact (which I chose as default, as well as all 
other interaction settings, with all of them at same rates) and the local 
rachel speech synth which sounds very weird because the rate is set to low for 
alex, which reflects on this system voice.

Now I'm having to listen to 2 different voices across my work. Anyone fixed 
this?

thanks

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Now how about accessible modems

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The thread on routers was great. But I think I’m going to need a better modem 
soon. I have a surfboard modem now and it’s nearing the end of it’s life. How 
about good accessible easy to use low Learning  curve modems?

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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

It sounds really attractive, but right now I don't have the time or the 
inclination to take on that learning curve.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
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> OpenWRT is the most accessible/flexible option, but the learning curve is 
> steep.
> SSH access is wonderful but you need some background to effectively use it.
> Brett
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 2:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
>> runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.
>> 
>> If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
>> than Open WRT whose web page is:
>> 
>> http://openwrt.org
>> 
>> Currently, I'm using the Linksys WRT1900AC which comes with pretty awful
>> software by default, so it may take some sighted assistance to flash the
>> OpenWRT firmware onto it. But, the flashing task is actually quite
>> straight forward. And, once accomplished, you've a highly accessible
>> router/switch/WAP all in one. You can drive it via the web browser of
>> your choice, or from a command line via ssh from your Mac terminal. Your
>> choice.
>> 
>> PS: I spent some time last weekend looking at where things have gotten
>> to vis a vis the next generation of these devices, those which conform
>> to 802.11AX also branded as wifi6. There are some compelling hardware
>> choices, but OpenWRT support is still in fairly early development, so
>> I'm staying away for the forseeable future. But, I expect the day will
>> come when a device like the Linksys MR9600 or the Netgear Nighthawk MK63
>> will support OpenWRT. When that day dawns, I'll be a buyer and a
>> flasher.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries]

Well, there is no learning curve with Eero, it works out of the box, no QR 
code’s to scan, and your up and running in less than 10 minutes.  I don’t know 
what people SSH is necessary for, but this router option even makes port 
forwarding easy.  JMO


Sent from my iPadPro

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
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> OpenWRT is the most accessible/flexible option, but the learning curve is 
> steep.
> SSH access is wonderful but you need some background to effectively use it.
> Brett
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 2:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
>> runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.
>> 
>> If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
>> than Open WRT whose web page is:
>> 
>> http://openwrt.org
>> 
>> Currently, I'm using the Linksys WRT1900AC which comes with pretty awful
>> software by default, so it may take some sighted assistance to flash the
>> OpenWRT firmware onto it. But, the flashing task is actually quite
>> straight forward. And, once accomplished, you've a highly accessible
>> router/switch/WAP all in one. You can drive it via the web browser of
>> your choice, or from a command line via ssh from your Mac terminal. Your
>> choice.
>> 
>> PS: I spent some time last weekend looking at where things have gotten
>> to vis a vis the next generation of these devices, those which conform
>> to 802.11AX also branded as wifi6. There are some compelling hardware
>> choices, but OpenWRT support is still in fairly early development, so
>> I'm staying away for the forseeable future. But, I expect the day will
>> come when a device like the Linksys MR9600 or the Netgear Nighthawk MK63
>> will support OpenWRT. When that day dawns, I'll be a buyer and a
>> flasher.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[Brett Lewis]

OpenWRT is the most accessible/flexible option, but the learning curve is steep.
SSH access is wonderful but you need some background to effectively use it.
Brett


> On Dec 5, 2020, at 2:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
> runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.
> 
> If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
> than Open WRT whose web page is:
> 
> http://openwrt.org
> 
> Currently, I'm using the Linksys WRT1900AC which comes with pretty awful
> software by default, so it may take some sighted assistance to flash the
> OpenWRT firmware onto it. But, the flashing task is actually quite
> straight forward. And, once accomplished, you've a highly accessible
> router/switch/WAP all in one. You can drive it via the web browser of
> your choice, or from a command line via ssh from your Mac terminal. Your
> choice.
> 
> PS: I spent some time last weekend looking at where things have gotten
> to vis a vis the next generation of these devices, those which conform
> to 802.11AX also branded as wifi6. There are some compelling hardware
> choices, but OpenWRT support is still in fairly early development, so
> I'm staying away for the forseeable future. But, I expect the day will
> come when a device like the Linksys MR9600 or the Netgear Nighthawk MK63
> will support OpenWRT. When that day dawns, I'll be a buyer and a
> flasher.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting. I’ll keep an eye on those developments, but right now, I want an 
easy, low-maintenance solution. :) The Eero is sounding really good. Thanks for 
this info, though.
Cheers,
Donna


Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
> runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.
> 
> If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
> than Open WRT whose web page is:
> 
> http://openwrt.org
> 
> Currently, I'm using the Linksys WRT1900AC which comes with pretty awful
> software by default, so it may take some sighted assistance to flash the
> OpenWRT firmware onto it. But, the flashing task is actually quite
> straight forward. And, once accomplished, you've a highly accessible
> router/switch/WAP all in one. You can drive it via the web browser of
> your choice, or from a command line via ssh from your Mac terminal. Your
> choice.
> 
> PS: I spent some time last weekend looking at where things have gotten
> to vis a vis the next generation of these devices, those which conform
> to 802.11AX also branded as wifi6. There are some compelling hardware
> choices, but OpenWRT support is still in fairly early development, so
> I'm staying away for the forseeable future. But, I expect the day will
> come when a device like the Linksys MR9600 or the Netgear Nighthawk MK63
> will support OpenWRT. When that day dawns, I'll be a buyer and a
> flasher.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

This is really, really, helpful. Thank you, Kliph. My saga with the Orby 
yesterday was so obnoxious that I felt like I was in that old sixties comedy 
skit where the guy was trying to make a phone call and the operator was being 
utterly unhelpful. I don’t ever want to see another Netgear product in my life! 
Lol

I think we’ll be picking up an Eero.
Cheers,
Donna



Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:51 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries 
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> I 2nd the Eero!  It is 100 percent accessible.  I have the eero pro 6, 
> mainly because my house is 3000 square feet, 3 people work from home, and the 
> reviews are 2nd to non.  It’s accessible from phone and iPad, you can block 
> specific websites, even have categories like social media blocked.  My kids 
> are doing distance learning, so I can block YouTube, twitter, facebook on 
> there school devices, but on there personal ones I allow YouTube and 
> instagram.  You can pause and resume internet access, and you can access the 
> device even when not at home.  Can’t say enough about there customer service 
> also.  I had a unit that was defective, they overnighted the replacement.  
> The pro is a bit spendy but the home version is affordable.  129 for 1, and 
> there is a discount if you buy the 3 pack.  HTH
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPadPro
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at 
>> this point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at 
>> this time.
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries]

I 2nd the Eero!  It is 100 percent accessible.  I have the eero pro 6, mainly 
because my house is 3000 square feet, 3 people work from home, and the reviews 
are 2nd to non.  It’s accessible from phone and iPad, you can block specific 
websites, even have categories like social media blocked.  My kids are doing 
distance learning, so I can block YouTube, twitter, facebook on there school 
devices, but on there personal ones I allow YouTube and instagram.  You can 
pause and resume internet access, and you can access the device even when not 
at home.  Can’t say enough about there customer service also.  I had a unit 
that was defective, they overnighted the replacement.  The pro is a bit spendy 
but the home version is affordable.  129 for 1, and there is a discount if you 
buy the 3 pack.  HTH


Sent from my iPadPro

> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:28 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at this 
> point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at this 
> time.
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Reseting NVRAM on a Mac with a windows installed via bootcamp

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
I did this last week on my 2015 iMac with Boot camp.
There were no problems.
As the Mac started and the chime sounded, I pressed and held down 
R+P+Command+Option until a second chime sounded.
On Dec 5, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder what will happen to a Mac device has windows 10 installed on it 
> using bootcamp if we reset the NVRAM!!! What will happen??
> 
> I have faced an issue, but fortunately, it was solved on its own, so I’m 
> asking for future reference.
> 
> I have MBP 2016 15”.
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?

[Muhammad Fayed]

In following two links from Apple support, you can find a little explanation 
for them. In that explanation, they don’t mention wi-fi related settings, but 
it did the trick for me. According to my info as a Computer and Communication 
Engineering graduate, I think it contains hardware managing settings related to 
sound, … (and other things they mentioned in the articles). They just won’t 
explain it more because most Apple users are not computer engineers. Plus, 
their hardware differs from its competitors.

>> Check the following steps depending on the kind of Mac you have:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204063
>> 
>> You may need to reset the SMC as well:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201295
>> 


> On Dec 5, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> I don't know what NVRAM is. No, I don't have Windows on this machine.
> I am new to the Mac-World.
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?
> 
> A note:
> 
> I don’t know what will happen if you reset the NVRAM while Windows is 
> installed using bootcamp on your Mac.
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> I have had the exact same issue after waking my MBP from sleep or after a 
>> starting it. I have solved it by reseting the NVRAM/PRAM. 
>> 
>> Check the following steps depending on the kind of Mac you have:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204063
>> 
>> You may need to reset the SMC as well:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201295
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks much, Mr. Carlson.
>>> My iPhone and this desktop are on the same network as my Mac, the phone and 
>>> the desktop are working just fine, should I still assume that it could be a 
>>> network issue for which Mac is not connecting to wifi?
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:05 PM
>>> To: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Cc: David Carlson 
>>> Subject: Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?
>>> 
>>> Sounds like your router is not connected to the internet. Do you have a 
>>> cable modem, or satellite? Something is wrong from your Wi-fi router to the 
>>> outside world. You might need to call your internet service provider and 
>>> have them run some tests.
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Group.
>>> How can I go to YouTube website via my Mac?
>>> VoiceOver says my wifi is on and has signal strength is four bar but I am 
>>> unable to get Siri. She says I am having trouble now, try in a moment.
>>> Thanks!
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looking to sell my 2018 macbook pro to anyone living in Australia on list.

[Michael Marshall]

hey all,
I am selling my 2018 macbook pro 15 inch.
I'm looking to upgrade to the new m1 mac so unfortunately I need to part with 
this.
I have done a lot of sound editing with this unit and it has never failed me.
Here are the specs.
Memory: 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
Storage: 512 gig SSD.
Processor, 2.9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i9
Display: Retner.
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB 
USBC ports: 4.
Touch Bar and Touch ID included.
Battery cycles used: 12.
I'm selling the unit for 2600 Plus postage. or courier.
Also comes with original charger and cord.
I'm really sorry that I can't send international but it's just too difficult at 
the moment.
I realise the price is steep but the specs were very good and it cost nearly 4 
grand to get brand-new.
If anyone is interested, send a message to mightymaggie...@gmail.com

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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.

If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
than Open WRT whose web page is:

http://openwrt.org

Currently, I'm using the Linksys WRT1900AC which comes with pretty awful
software by default, so it may take some sighted assistance to flash the
OpenWRT firmware onto it. But, the flashing task is actually quite
straight forward. And, once accomplished, you've a highly accessible
router/switch/WAP all in one. You can drive it via the web browser of
your choice, or from a command line via ssh from your Mac terminal. Your
choice.

PS: I spent some time last weekend looking at where things have gotten
to vis a vis the next generation of these devices, those which conform
to 802.11AX also branded as wifi6. There are some compelling hardware
choices, but OpenWRT support is still in fairly early development, so
I'm staying away for the forseeable future. But, I expect the day will
come when a device like the Linksys MR9600 or the Netgear Nighthawk MK63
will support OpenWRT. When that day dawns, I'll be a buyer and a
flasher.

hth

Janina

'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the Netgear 
> Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes they have 
> sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app will allow, 
> And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where the router is, 
> so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear the boot. Can 
> anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
> TIA,
> Donna
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RE: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?

[Fazil]

I don't know what NVRAM is. No, I don't have Windows on this machine.
I am new to the Mac-World.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?

A note:

I don’t know what will happen if you reset the NVRAM while Windows is installed 
using bootcamp on your Mac.

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> I have had the exact same issue after waking my MBP from sleep or after a 
> starting it. I have solved it by reseting the NVRAM/PRAM. 
> 
> Check the following steps depending on the kind of Mac you have:
> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204063
> 
> You may need to reset the SMC as well:
> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201295
> 
> HTH
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Fazil  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks much, Mr. Carlson.
>> My iPhone and this desktop are on the same network as my Mac, the phone and 
>> the desktop are working just fine, should I still assume that it could be a 
>> network issue for which Mac is not connecting to wifi?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:05 PM
>> To: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Cc: David Carlson 
>> Subject: Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?
>> 
>> Sounds like your router is not connected to the internet. Do you have a 
>> cable modem, or satellite? Something is wrong from your Wi-fi router to the 
>> outside world. You might need to call your internet service provider and 
>> have them run some tests.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> How can I go to YouTube website via my Mac?
>> VoiceOver says my wifi is on and has signal strength is four bar but I am 
>> unable to get Siri. She says I am having trouble now, try in a moment.
>> Thanks!
>> 
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RE: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?

[Fazil]

I am sorry, sir, how did you resolve it, please?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?

I have had the exact same issue after waking my MBP from sleep or after a 
starting it. I have solved it by reseting the NVRAM/PRAM. 

Check the following steps depending on the kind of Mac you have:
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204063

You may need to reset the SMC as well:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201295

HTH

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed


> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Thanks much, Mr. Carlson.
> My iPhone and this desktop are on the same network as my Mac, the phone and 
> the desktop are working just fine, should I still assume that it could be a 
> network issue for which Mac is not connecting to wifi?
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Cc: David Carlson 
> Subject: Re: Visiting YouTube Via Mac?
> 
> Sounds like your router is not connected to the internet. Do you have a cable 
> modem, or satellite? Something is wrong from your Wi-fi router to the outside 
> world. You might need to call your internet service provider and have them 
> run some tests.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
> 
> On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> How can I go to YouTube website via my Mac?
> VoiceOver says my wifi is on and has signal strength is four bar but I am 
> unable to get Siri. She says I am having trouble now, try in a moment.
> Thanks!
> 
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