Re: question for those of you who do not use Time Machine to migrate data

[Brad Snyder]

Donna,

A folder that is “On My Mac” will not move to a new Mac automatically as I 
described.
Only folders and content that is on your email providers server will transfer 
this way.
If your provider is for example Gmail, I would suggest you create a folder in 
your Gmail account called “Mac Stuff”, or whatever you want to call it, and 
move items from the folder on your Mac into that folder.  This way, the items 
will reside on your email providers server, and will be available in your email 
account’s folder hierarchy on your new Mac.
 
- Brad -


On May 10, 2021, at 16:27, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

I know that's true for mail folders associated with email accounts, but what 
about others? For example, I have a folder called Mac Stuff where I save posts, 
many from this list, that have instructions for doing things on the Mac that I 
think I might need to refer back to some day.  That mailbox is listed under On 
my Mac.  Though most of the mails in that folder are from this mail account, 
not all of them are.  Will that get moved over as well?  If not, how do I move 
it? So far, a google search as not proven fruitful.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 10, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> As long as you've set up your mailboxes and accounts in Internet accounts in 
> system preferences, they will show up automatically on your new Mac. You 
> won't really have to do anything.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 10, 2021, at 11:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As I have said, my plan with the new M1 Mac is to use Time Machine only to 
> move files. But one thing I am wondering about is how to migrate mailboxes 
> that are on my Mac, that is personal mailboxes that I have created and saved. 
>  If anyone could share how they go about doing this, I would greatly 
> appreciate it.
> TIA,
> Donna
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RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[skipper8218]

Prior to the M1, some VoiceOver users reported serious bugs so I believe that 
no OS is perfect.

Sometimes, the fault lies within a particular app.

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 7:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

 

I don’t know. In the Windows world, there seems to be a steady influx of bugs 
that some users experience after each update – even minor updates. Have a look 
at
https://www.windowslatest.com

One of my laptops has a Windows 10 installation on it (along with Linux). So 
far, I haven’t run into any of the serious bugs reported on the above site, but 
it appears that, with each update, some people are encountering issues. That 
could encourage them to consider the Mac more closely than they might otherwise 
have done. As noted, though, my Windows 10 installation has been stable. 
Perhaps I’m lucky. There are accessibility bugs in Windows applications, of 
course, but the same is true everywhere.

 

On the other hand, Microsoft seems to be improving the accessibility of Office 
for Mac, so this could also make the Mac increasingly viable for people who 
need Microsoft Office and who use screen readers.

 

The M1 hardware probably attracts some users, too, as you suggest.

On 5/10/21, 09:42, "'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries" 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
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I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world 
that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?

 

Cheers,

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Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

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I don’t know. In the Windows world, there seems to be a steady influx of bugs that some users experience after each update – even minor updates. Have a look athttps://www.windowslatest.comOne of my laptops has a Windows 10 installation on it (along with Linux). So far, I haven’t run into any of the serious bugs reported on the above site, but it appears that, with each update, some people are encountering issues. That could encourage them to consider the Mac more closely than they might otherwise have done. As noted, though, my Windows 10 installation has been stable. Perhaps I’m lucky. There are accessibility bugs in Windows applications, of course, but the same is true everywhere. On the other hand, Microsoft seems to be improving the accessibility of Office for Mac, so this could also make the Mac increasingly viable for people who need Microsoft Office and who use screen readers. The M1 hardware probably attracts some users, too, as you suggest.On 5/10/21, 09:42, "'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries"  wrote:I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? Cheers,Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groupsgoogle.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. 



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RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[skipper8218]

Thanks.

Page bookmarked.

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

 

They’re listed under “Document Shortcuts” on this page:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236

You’ll find a variety of other useful keyboard commands there also.

 

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Date: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 07:39
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

Hi,

How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up 
and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?

I have a M1 machine.

Thanks.

 

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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

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They’re listed under “Document Shortcuts” on this page:https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236You’ll find a variety of other useful keyboard commands there also. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on behalf of skipper8...@gmail.com Date: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 07:39To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Question About Navigation Commands for MacHi,How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?I have a M1 machine.Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/064b01d74591%2426865030%247392f090%24%40gmail.com.



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RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[skipper8218]

Actually, you don't have to use a separate sound card on Windows and can do the 
install independently.
The Mac had the accessible installer long before Windows did, however.

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Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:23 PM
To: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

Matthew



Hi I have been a mac user for years.  I have an el-braille which of corse uses 
windows 10, but I find Mac os to be a much more stable system and you don't 
have to pay for SMA'S to keep your screen reader update. Also, if you need to 
do a fresh instally don't need a seporate sound card to get sound with 
narorator.  The *stall can do be done without sited help to do this.




On 5/10/2021 12:17 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express 
> purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws 
> and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to 
> my chosen profession.  I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that 
> updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I 
> still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more 
> every day.
> I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice.  I use Allison on my Mac, 
> iPad and iPhone.
> I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same 
> environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in 
> every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so 
> four now I’ll keep them.
> But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another 
> subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their 
> native apps such as pages and mail.
> Merv
>
>
>> On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an 
>> inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Herbie Allen
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
>>
>> I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine 
>> primarily,  but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that 
>> make me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac 
>> and phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient 
>> and I can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. 
>> The Mac has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. 
>> Mac Mail is the best, and I love being able to take Phone  and FaceTime 
>> calls n my Mac allowing me to multi-task.
>>
>>> On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
>>> I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
>>> ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
>>> Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
>>> playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and 
>>> great VoiceOver support for native apps.
>>> Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
>>> Curiosity got me into the Mac world.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
>>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
>>>
>>> I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
>>> wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all 
>>> about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the 
>>> Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sabahattin
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Re: question for those of you who do not use Time Machine to migrate data

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Never mind. I think I just found instructions,
Donna


> On May 10, 2021, at 4:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> I know that's true for mail folders associated with email accounts, but what 
> about others? For example, I have a folder called Mac Stuff where I save 
> posts, many from this list, that have instructions for doing things on the 
> Mac that I think I might need to refer back to some day.  That mailbox is 
> listed under On my Mac.  Though most of the mails in that folder are from 
> this mail account, not all of them are.  Will that get moved over as well?  
> If not, how do I move it? So far, a google search as not proven fruitful.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> As long as you've set up your mailboxes and accounts in Internet accounts in 
>> system preferences, they will show up automatically on your new Mac. You 
>> won't really have to do anything.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On May 10, 2021, at 11:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As I have said, my plan with the new M1 Mac is to use Time Machine only to 
>> move files. But one thing I am wondering about is how to migrate mailboxes 
>> that are on my Mac, that is personal mailboxes that I have created and 
>> saved.  If anyone could share how they go about doing this, I would greatly 
>> appreciate it.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: question for those of you who do not use Time Machine to migrate data

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Brad,

I know that's true for mail folders associated with email accounts, but what 
about others? For example, I have a folder called Mac Stuff where I save posts, 
many from this list, that have instructions for doing things on the Mac that I 
think I might need to refer back to some day.  That mailbox is listed under On 
my Mac.  Though most of the mails in that folder are from this mail account, 
not all of them are.  Will that get moved over as well?  If not, how do I move 
it? So far, a google search as not proven fruitful.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 10, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> As long as you've set up your mailboxes and accounts in Internet accounts in 
> system preferences, they will show up automatically on your new Mac. You 
> won't really have to do anything.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 10, 2021, at 11:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As I have said, my plan with the new M1 Mac is to use Time Machine only to 
> move files. But one thing I am wondering about is how to migrate mailboxes 
> that are on my Mac, that is personal mailboxes that I have created and saved. 
>  If anyone could share how they go about doing this, I would greatly 
> appreciate it.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



Hi I have been a mac user for years.  I have an el-braille which of 
corse uses windows 10, but I find Mac os to be a much more stable system 
and you don't have to pay for SMA'S to keep your screen reader update.  
Also, if you need to do a fresh instally don't need a seporate sound 
card to get sound with narorator.  The *stall can do be done without 
sited help to do this.





On 5/10/2021 12:17 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express 
purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws 
and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to 
my chosen profession.  I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that 
updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I 
still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more every 
day.
I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice.  I use Allison on my Mac, 
iPad and iPhone.
I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same 
environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in 
every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so 
four now I’ll keep them.
But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another 
subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their 
native apps such as pages and mail.
Merv



On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an 
inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine 
primarily,  but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make 
me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and 
phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I 
can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac 
has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is 
the best, and I love being able to take Phone  and FaceTime calls n my Mac 
allowing me to multi-task.


On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:

I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great 
VoiceOver support for native apps.
Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
Curiosity got me into the Mac world.

-Original Message-
From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world 
that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: question for those of you who do not use Time Machine to migrate data

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If all of the mail is still on the server, it will be downloaded when you access the account on the new machine. Otherwise, I’m sure there is a transfer process that would be best looked up via your favourite Web search engine.. I think Apple Mail can be exported to mbox format, but I haven’t needed it. I keep the mail on the server, and archive it from there, then download the archive files – an advantage of running one’s own mail server. On 5/10/21, 12:48, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries"  wrote:Hi all, As I have said, my plan with the new M1 Mac is to use Time Machine only to move files. But one thing I am wondering about is how to migrate mailboxes that are on my Mac, that is personal mailboxes that I have created and saved.  If anyone could share how they go about doing this, I would greatly appreciate it.TIA,Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6A8FE947-6810-4474-A102-20A5D32F89FB%40me.com. 



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Re: question for those of you who do not use Time Machine to migrate data

[Brad Snyder]

As long as you've set up your mailboxes and accounts in Internet accounts in 
system preferences, they will show up automatically on your new Mac. You won't 
really have to do anything.

- Brad -

On May 10, 2021, at 11:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

As I have said, my plan with the new M1 Mac is to use Time Machine only to move 
files. But one thing I am wondering about is how to migrate mailboxes that are 
on my Mac, that is personal mailboxes that I have created and saved.  If anyone 
could share how they go about doing this, I would greatly appreciate it.
TIA,
Donna

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question for those of you who do not use Time Machine to migrate data

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

As I have said, my plan with the new M1 Mac is to use Time Machine only to move 
files. But one thing I am wondering about is how to migrate mailboxes that are 
on my Mac, that is personal mailboxes that I have created and saved.  If anyone 
could share how they go about doing this, I would greatly appreciate it.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

['Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries]

I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express 
purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws 
and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to 
my chosen profession.  I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that 
updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I 
still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more every 
day.
I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice.  I use Allison on my Mac, 
iPad and iPhone.
I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same 
environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in 
every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so 
four now I’ll keep them.
But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another 
subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their 
native apps such as pages and mail.
Merv


> On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an 
> inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
> 
> I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine 
> primarily,  but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make 
> me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and 
> phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I 
> can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac 
> has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is 
> the best, and I love being able to take Phone  and FaceTime calls n my Mac 
> allowing me to multi-task. 
> 
>> On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
>> I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
>> ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
>> Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
>> playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great 
>> VoiceOver support for native apps.
>> Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
>> Curiosity got me into the Mac world.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
>> 
>> I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
>> wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
>> Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows 
>> world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sabahattin
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RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[skipper8218]

Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an 
inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine 
primarily,  but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make 
me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and 
phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I 
can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac 
has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is 
the best, and I love being able to take Phone  and FaceTime calls n my Mac 
allowing me to multi-task. 

> On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
> I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
> ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
> Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
> playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great 
> VoiceOver support for native apps.
> Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
> Curiosity got me into the Mac world.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
> 
> I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
> wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
> Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world 
> that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[Herbie Allen]

I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine 
primarily,  but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make 
me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and 
phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I 
can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac 
has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is 
the best, and I love being able to take Phone  and FaceTime calls n my Mac 
allowing me to multi-task. 

> On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
> I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
> ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
> Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
> playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great 
> VoiceOver support for native apps.
> Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
> Curiosity got me into the Mac world.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
> 
> I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
> wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
> Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world 
> that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?
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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Shirley Healy]

great! Thank you!
shirley
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  From: Brad Snyder 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 3:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac


  Navigate to the point where you would like to begin reading.
  Then use the command VO + A, to begin continuous reading from the point of 
the VoiceOver cursor.


  - Brad -




  On May 10, 2021, at 09:10, Shirley Healy  wrote:


  How do I read from the beginning of a document, or email?
  what command keystroke do I need to use to do that?
  shirley
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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac


Thanks.
Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?
Thanks.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

Hi  Rebecca,

The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:

CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.
CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.
CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.
CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.

I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it 
and see if it works as expected.

If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated 
Page Up or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down 
arrows keys for these functions.
Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform 
the Home and End function.

- Brad -


On May 10, 2021, at 06:39,   
wrote:

Hi,
How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page 
up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
I have a M1 machine.
Thanks.


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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Brad Snyder]

Navigate to the point where you would like to begin reading.
Then use the command VO + A, to begin continuous reading from the point of the 
VoiceOver cursor.

- Brad -


On May 10, 2021, at 09:10, Shirley Healy  wrote:

How do I read from the beginning of a document, or email?
what command keystroke do I need to use to do that?
shirley
> - Original Message -
> From: skipper8...@gmail.com 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 2:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac
> 
> Thanks.
> Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?
> Thanks.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac
>  
> Hi  Rebecca,
>  
> The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
> applications:
>  
> CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.
> CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.
> CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.
> CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.
>  
> I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
> see if it works as expected.
>  
> If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page 
> Up or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows 
> keys for these functions.
> Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform 
> the Home and End function.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On May 10, 2021, at 06:39,  >  > wrote:
>  
> Hi,
> How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page 
> up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
> I have a M1 machine.
> Thanks.
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RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[skipper8218]

Thanks.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 10:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

 

That depends on what you are doing.

These are text editing commands.  If you are in an edit field, then they should 
perform the function described.

 


- Brad -

 

On May 10, 2021, at 08:54, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?

Thanks.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

 

Hi  Rebecca,

 

The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:

 

CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.

CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.

CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.

CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.

 

I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
see if it works as expected.

 

If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page Up 
or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows keys 
for these functions.

Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform the 
Home and End function.

 

- Brad -

 

On May 10, 2021, at 06:39, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up 
and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?

I have a M1 machine.

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Shirley Healy]

How do I read from the beginning of a document, or email?
what command keystroke do I need to use to do that?
shirley
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  From: skipper8...@gmail.com 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 2:54 PM
  Subject: RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac


  Thanks.

  Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?

  Thanks.

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

   

  Hi  Rebecca,

   

  The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:

   

  CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.

  CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.

  CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.

  CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.

   

  I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
see if it works as expected.

   

  If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page 
Up or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows 
keys for these functions.

  Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform 
the Home and End function.

   

  - Brad -

   

  On May 10, 2021, at 06:39,   
wrote:

   

  Hi,

  How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page 
up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?

  I have a M1 machine.

  Thanks.

   

   

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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

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That depends on what you are doing.
These are text editing commands.  If you are in an edit field, then they should 
perform the function described.


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On May 10, 2021, at 08:54,   
wrote:

Thanks.
Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?
Thanks.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac
 
Hi  Rebecca,
 
The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:
 
CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.
CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.
CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.
CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.
 
I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
see if it works as expected.
 
If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page Up 
or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows keys 
for these functions.
Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform the 
Home and End function.
 
- Brad -

 
On May 10, 2021, at 06:39, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi,
How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up 
and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
I have a M1 machine.
Thanks.
 
 
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Re: I have a VMware fusion question, please read below.

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I don't know if you figured this out, but there is the snapshots menu item,
which is part of the virtual machine menu.
You have a list of all your saved snapshots which you can delete by using
the shortcut menu  on a snapshot and selecting it.  The delete button then
should become available and you can delete it.
This process is a little bit inconsistent but does work.
In that dialog there is also an auto protect button which lets you specify
the number of snapshots to keep.
HTH,
Brett


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> Hello, here's my question is there any way to delete a huge pile of
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RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[skipper8218]

Thanks.

Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?

Thanks.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

 

Hi  Rebecca,

 

The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:

 

CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.

CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.

CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.

CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.

 

I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
see if it works as expected.

 

If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page Up 
or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows keys 
for these functions.

Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform the 
Home and End function.

 

- Brad -

 

On May 10, 2021, at 06:39, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up 
and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?

I have a M1 machine.

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Brad Snyder]

Hi  Rebecca,

The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:

CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.
CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.
CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.
CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.

I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
see if it works as expected.

If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page Up 
or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows keys 
for these functions.
Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform the 
Home and End function.

- Brad -


On May 10, 2021, at 06:39,   
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Hi,
How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up 
and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
I have a M1 machine.
Thanks.
 

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RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[skipper8218]

I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great 
VoiceOver support for native apps.
Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
Curiosity got me into the Mac world.

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From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world 
that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
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Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

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Hi,

How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page
up and page down using the Mac's keyboard?

I have a M1 machine.

Thanks.

 

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