Re: Applescript commander acting strange.

[dan d.]

A script workss the same in eeither.  I suggest you join and ask the script 
question in this mailing list:

applescript-us...@lists.apple.com
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> OK yes, but there is still a need for scripting to work consistently.
>   Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 2021, at 15:00, dan d.  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the 
> > numpad commmander version.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> >
> >> =Hello,
> >>
> >> I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday 
> >> and somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to 
> >> get to actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add 
> >> commanders, but these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
> >> I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
> >> keyboard commands to them in system preferences
> >> So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation 
> >> with just a do AppleScript in it.
> >> I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
> >> on run
> >>tell application "VoiceOver"
> >>tell commander
> >>perform command "actions"
> >>end tell
> >>end tell
> >> end run
> >>
> >> Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
> >> I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work.
> >> So, I saved it as "voiceover actions".
> >> I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts 
> >> services
> >>
> >> Now to test it out???
> >> First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
> >> probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
> >> 1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
> >> Second issue:  Got an error:
> >> The action ???Run AppleScript??? encountered an error: ???VoiceOver got an 
> >> error: "actions" doesn???t understand the ???perform command??? message.???
> >>
> >> Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
> >> command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".
> >>
> >> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better 
> >> results I would be interested.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >>Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Jonathan Cohn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> > XR
>
>

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Re: Any thoughts on the future of MacBook Pros in light of this WWDC?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Kevin,

For your general information, WWDC stands for World wide Developers conference. 
 Therefore, the primary focus at WEDC is usually on software, not hardware.  
That being said, there have been a few instances when hardware was introduced 
at WWDC.  Just because I love to share useless information along with more 
beneficial info, the last few hardware items introduced at WWDC have since been 
discontinued.  That is, the full-size HomePod, the iMac Pro and the 10.5” iPad 
Pro.  Basically, that means nothing other than bad luck, although superstitious 
people may think otherwise.

All that being said, the MacBook Pro is here to stay for quite a while in my 
opinion.  If you can afford it, it’s a wonderful machine.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jun 7, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I hope this note finds all of you staying safe and healthy and doing well.  
> I'm’ writing because my wife and I just finished reading the highlights from 
> the WWDC and were disappointed to see nothing about a new MacBook Pro to go 
> with the upcoming Mac OS Monterey.  Considering that a new iMac came out just 
> recently, and further considering that it’s been a while since the 16 inch 
> MacBook Pro got any love, I’m wondering if any of you have any opinions on 
> how long the current 16 inch machine will remain the flagship of the MacBook 
> line.  
> 
> Personally, I can’t imagine that sighted users won’t want state of the art 
> hardware in a 16 inch form factor because they believe in screens and so on.  
> If I’m wrong,… oh well.  
> 
> While we don’t necessarily think in visual terms about stuff like this.  This 
> list comprises a group of the most Mac savvy people I know and I’d be 
> interested if you’d be willing to share your opinions on what the future 
> holds for laptop hardware in Mac land.  
> 
> I should get around to saying that my wife and I haven’t upgraded our Mac 
> hardware since we bought a Mac mini for me and a 27 inch iMac for her  in 
> 2010.  We haven’t been able to upgrade the OS on that hardware in years, 
> (10.12.6,) and we just want to avoid buying new hardware that will, itself be 
> frozen in, say, one OS upgrade.  See the problem?
> 
> All of you may decide not to express an opinion on any of this.  But I’D be 
> grateful for any thoughts you’d be willing to share.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> 
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Re: Any thoughts on the future of MacBook Pros in light of this WWDC?

[maurice mines]

Good afternoon, the only thing about this morning's presentation that very much 
concerns me is that it appears that Mac OS Monterey it's very much going to be 
designed for the M1 chip. This means that if one Hans a Machine based on the 
Intel chip that things might not work as intended in the beginning. In other 
words if it's the match that's clearly going to be designed for the new 
processor. If one is running the owner processor there may be some challenges.

My largest concern however yes how are they going to implement directional 
sound to match up with hearing aids didn't use that directional information. 
Because right now hearing aid accessibility definitely has something to be 
desired. I am curious to see  how while this new feature Will help, or hinder 
those of us who we are, and must use hearing aids?

The other thing is I thought I read somewhere, that's safari may get some 
accessibility improvements. Again Proof must be in the pudding. Another words 
beta testing buy blame people this year ABC critical. And I certainly will a 
very much involved in this endeavor because of being deafblind, and also having 
a written expression disorder," dyslexia of writing”. These are just my 
thoughts.

I hope everyone House OK Great rust of the day.

Maurice mines.

PS I have beta tested either the phone, or my MacBook or at least the last five 
or six years. One thing I will never do after last year's fiasco, it's better 
test new version of watchOS and less Apple pleasures in writing do not remove 
voiceover from any better. Finally whenever I mention that I am a braille user 
I get the constant comment but we don't no very many people who use braille. My 
only thought here is how do they think we read and write? Just some food for 
thought. Considering that an education and outside of education they still 
think that less than 20% of us actually read and/or right, are used braille. 
This is a very sad commentary.
> On Jun 7, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I hope this note finds all of you staying safe and healthy and doing well.  
> I'm’ writing because my wife and I just finished reading the highlights from 
> the WWDC and were disappointed to see nothing about a new MacBook Pro to go 
> with the upcoming Mac OS Monterey.  Considering that a new iMac came out just 
> recently, and further considering that it’s been a while since the 16 inch 
> MacBook Pro got any love, I’m wondering if any of you have any opinions on 
> how long the current 16 inch machine will remain the flagship of the MacBook 
> line.  
> 
> Personally, I can’t imagine that sighted users won’t want state of the art 
> hardware in a 16 inch form factor because they believe in screens and so on.  
> If I’m wrong,… oh well.  
> 
> While we don’t necessarily think in visual terms about stuff like this.  This 
> list comprises a group of the most Mac savvy people I know and I’d be 
> interested if you’d be willing to share your opinions on what the future 
> holds for laptop hardware in Mac land.  
> 
> I should get around to saying that my wife and I haven’t upgraded our Mac 
> hardware since we bought a Mac mini for me and a 27 inch iMac for her  in 
> 2010.  We haven’t been able to upgrade the OS on that hardware in years, 
> (10.12.6,) and we just want to avoid buying new hardware that will, itself be 
> frozen in, say, one OS upgrade.  See the problem?
> 
> All of you may decide not to express an opinion on any of this.  But I’D be 
> grateful for any thoughts you’d be willing to share.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> 
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Any thoughts on the future of MacBook Pros in light of this WWDC?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I hope this note finds all of you staying safe and healthy and doing well.  
I'm’ writing because my wife and I just finished reading the highlights from 
the WWDC and were disappointed to see nothing about a new MacBook Pro to go 
with the upcoming Mac OS Monterey.  Considering that a new iMac came out just 
recently, and further considering that it’s been a while since the 16 inch 
MacBook Pro got any love, I’m wondering if any of you have any opinions on how 
long the current 16 inch machine will remain the flagship of the MacBook line.  

Personally, I can’t imagine that sighted users won’t want state of the art 
hardware in a 16 inch form factor because they believe in screens and so on.  
If I’m wrong,… oh well.  

While we don’t necessarily think in visual terms about stuff like this.  This 
list comprises a group of the most Mac savvy people I know and I’d be 
interested if you’d be willing to share your opinions on what the future holds 
for laptop hardware in Mac land.  

I should get around to saying that my wife and I haven’t upgraded our Mac 
hardware since we bought a Mac mini for me and a 27 inch iMac for her  in 2010. 
 We haven’t been able to upgrade the OS on that hardware in years, (10.12.6,) 
and we just want to avoid buying new hardware that will, itself be frozen in, 
say, one OS upgrade.  See the problem?

All of you may decide not to express an opinion on any of this.  But I’D be 
grateful for any thoughts you’d be willing to share.  

Thanks,
Kevin
  

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Re: Moving files from old drive to new drive using terminal

[Caitlyn Furness]

Thanks very much!

Cait


> On Jun 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> This is probably easier done with copy/paste in the finder. Generally, the 
> "mv" command does not work accross partitions, though it is possible that it 
> has been extended to do that.
> If you want to copy the files then use 
> cp -R source destination 
> You might want to add the "force" option which if I remember correctly is the 
> lower case f. BTW, the R for recursion is a upper case R.
> Once the copy  is confirmed, using rm -R directory1 directory2 directory3 
> will remove the directories, again the r is capitalized. 
> If you are moving from one computer to another the rsync command might help.
> Note that all of these commands have man pages and that the man pages are 
> available either on your computer or the web.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 13:05, Caitlyn Furness > > wrote:
>> 
>> No, it’s an external drive.  Also, I should’ve specified that I want to move 
>> a few entire folders and their contents.  These are going from my dying IMac 
>> to my external drive…
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Cait
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Is the old drive on the same Mac?
>>> /A
>>> 
 7 juni 2021 kl. 18:37 skrev Caitlyn Furness >>> >:
 
 Hi,
 
 What is the terminal command for moving files from one volume to another?
 
 I know there is “mv” in there, but don’t remember the spaces and other 
 stuff..
 
 Thanks,
 Cait
 
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Re: Applescript commander acting strange.

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK yes, but there is still a need for scripting to work consistently. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jun 7, 2021, at 15:00, dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the 
> numpad commmander version.
> 
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> 
>> =Hello,
>> 
>> I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday and 
>> somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to get to 
>> actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add commanders, but 
>> these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
>> I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
>> keyboard commands to them in system preferences
>> So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation with 
>> just a do AppleScript in it.
>> I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
>> on run
>>  tell application "VoiceOver"
>>  tell commander
>>  perform command "actions"
>>  end tell
>>  end tell
>> end run
>> 
>> Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
>> I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work.
>> So, I saved it as "voiceover actions".
>> I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts 
>> services
>> 
>> Now to test it out???
>> First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
>> probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
>> 1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
>> Second issue:  Got an error:
>> The action ???Run AppleScript??? encountered an error: ???VoiceOver got an 
>> error: "actions" doesn???t understand the ???perform command??? message.???
>> 
>> Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
>> command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".
>> 
>> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better 
>> results I would be interested.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Moving files from old drive to new drive using terminal

[Jonathan Cohn]

This is probably easier done with copy/paste in the finder. Generally, the "mv" 
command does not work accross partitions, though it is possible that it has 
been extended to do that.
If you want to copy the files then use 
cp -R source destination 
You might want to add the "force" option which if I remember correctly is the 
lower case f. BTW, the R for recursion is a upper case R.
Once the copy  is confirmed, using rm -R directory1 directory2 directory3 
will remove the directories, again the r is capitalized. 
If you are moving from one computer to another the rsync command might help.
Note that all of these commands have man pages and that the man pages are 
available either on your computer or the web.

Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jun 7, 2021, at 13:05, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> No, it’s an external drive.  Also, I should’ve specified that I want to move 
> a few entire folders and their contents.  These are going from my dying IMac 
> to my external drive…
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Cait
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is the old drive on the same Mac?
>> /A
>> 
>>> 7 juni 2021 kl. 18:37 skrev Caitlyn Furness :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What is the terminal command for moving files from one volume to another?
>>> 
>>> I know there is “mv” in there, but don’t remember the spaces and other 
>>> stuff..
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cait
>>> 
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Re: Applescript commander acting strange.

[dan d.]

A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the 
numpad commmander version.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> =Hello,
>
> I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday and 
> somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to get to 
> actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add commanders, but 
> these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
> I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
> keyboard commands to them in system preferences
> So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation with 
> just a do AppleScript in it.
> I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
> on run
>   tell application "VoiceOver"
>   tell commander
>   perform command "actions"
>   end tell
>   end tell
> end run
>
> Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
> I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work.
> So, I saved it as "voiceover actions".
> I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts 
> services
>
> Now to test it out???
> First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
> probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
> 1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
> Second issue:  Got an error:
> The action ???Run AppleScript??? encountered an error: ???VoiceOver got an 
> error: "actions" doesn???t understand the ???perform command??? message.???
>
> Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
> command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".
>
> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better 
> results I would be interested.
>
> Jonathan
>
>   Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
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Re: Moving files from old drive to new drive using terminal

[dan d.]

It depends if you want to duplicate the entire drive or just some folders.  The 
first can be done with one command, the second requires one or
more commands depending on their location and number of folders.  It is easily 
done in either case; I have done it many times.  Use the cp
copy command as it leaves the original files in case there is a problem, the mv 
move command erases the source files.

Let me know and I will provide the exact command syntax to use.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What is the terminal command for moving files from one volume to another?
>
> I know there is ???mv??? in there, but don???t remember the spaces and other 
> stuff..
>
> Thanks,
> Cait
>
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Re: Moving files from old drive to new drive using terminal

[Caitlyn Furness]

No, it’s an external drive.  Also, I should’ve specified that I want to move a 
few entire folders and their contents.  These are going from my dying IMac to 
my external drive…

Thanks!

Cait


> On Jun 7, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Is the old drive on the same Mac?
> /A
> 
>> 7 juni 2021 kl. 18:37 skrev Caitlyn Furness :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What is the terminal command for moving files from one volume to another?
>> 
>> I know there is “mv” in there, but don’t remember the spaces and other 
>> stuff..
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cait
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Re: Moving files from old drive to new drive using terminal

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Is the old drive on the same Mac?
/A

> 7 juni 2021 kl. 18:37 skrev Caitlyn Furness :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is the terminal command for moving files from one volume to another?
> 
> I know there is “mv” in there, but don’t remember the spaces and other stuff..
> 
> Thanks,
> Cait
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Applescript commander acting strange.

[Jonathan Cohn]

=Hello,

I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday and 
somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to get to 
actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add commanders, but 
these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
keyboard commands to them in system preferences 
So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation with 
just a do AppleScript in it.
I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
on run
tell application "VoiceOver"
tell commander
perform command "actions"
end tell
end tell
end run 

Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work. 
So, I saved it as "voiceover actions". 
I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts services 

Now to test it out…
First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
Second issue:  Got an error: 
The action “Run AppleScript” encountered an error: “VoiceOver got an error: 
"actions" doesn’t understand the “perform command” message.”

Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".

If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better results 
I would be interested.

Jonathan

Best wishes,

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Moving files from old drive to new drive using terminal

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,

What is the terminal command for moving files from one volume to another?

I know there is “mv” in there, but don’t remember the spaces and other stuff..

Thanks,
Cait

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Re: Bluetooth headphone.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It’s not necessarily that they will hear you better.  The mic on the AirPods is 
fine.  It’s how using the mic AirPod mic instead of a different mic affects the 
sound quality.  For me, when using my AirPods normally, whether just navigating 
around the Mac, or on a call, the sound does not change in the AirPods when I’m 
on a call as I use an external desk mic.  Again, I’m not speaking of mic sound 
quality, it’s the ear-piece sound quality that remains consistent.

Later…


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> On Jun 7, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yes I know what you mean.
> They will hear me better.
> But its strange.
> /A
> 
>> 7 juni 2021 kl. 17:42 skrev Herbie Allen > >:
>> 
>> Like I said, switching the mic source  will solve this issue. Maybe not 
>> practical for FaceTime if you are going around the house, but I use this 
>> method quite a bit if I’m listening to a presentation on Zoom.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 06:31, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Yes I did.
>>> THe nc works as it should.
>>> What I was talking about was that the audio bandwithth is decreased when 
>>> speaking on zoom.
>>> And if you take a phone call on the Mac the same thing happens.
>>> /A
>>> 
 5 juni 2021 kl. 23:59 skrev Les Kriegler >>> >:
 
 Hi,
 On the Airpods Max, did you hit the square button to select cancellation 
 mode. This should eliminate all background noise. If you have it set to 
 Transparency Mode, You will hear background noise.
 Best,
  
 Les
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 4:10 PM
 To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> >
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth headphone.
  
 Hi!
 Well, the mic is not an issue.
 Its more that I hear the sound from others coming through headphones quite 
 muffled.
 This happens with my AirPods max as well as beats studio.
 /A
 
 
> 5 juni 2021 kl. 20:41 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  >:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> My experience is similar to that of Herbie.  That is, whether it’s Zoom, 
> Webex, Google Meet or FaceTime, or any other meeting client for that 
> matter, if you set your mic to either use the internal Mac mic, or use an 
> external desk mic, the sound in the headphones will improve considerably.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>>  
>> One trick you can do with zoom on the Mac when using Bluetooth 
>> headphones. Switch the Mic to a new default such as your internal or an 
>> external desk mic. It’s the mic specifically that changes the audio 
>> quality and when not engaged, it acts like your only listening and 
>> presents things in the normal quality. I don’t think I got this trick to 
>> work on FaceTime though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 04:51, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi friends!
>>> This is an audio question.
>>> When I am logged into zoom or talking to someone on FaceTime via 
>>> speakers  the quality is very very good.
>>> When I connect my beats studio or AirPods max via bluetooth and use the 
>>> same apps the audio gets like its in a phone if you understand what I 
>>> mean.
>>> But my question is why this Is happening?
>>> Is this because the bluetooth audio on my MacBook 1ir 2015 does not 
>>> support the latest bluetooth standard or what causes this?
>>> Thanks to anyone who can help.
>>> /A   
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Re: Bluetooth headphone.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes I know what you mean.
They will hear me better.
But its strange.
/A

> 7 juni 2021 kl. 17:42 skrev Herbie Allen :
> 
> Like I said, switching the mic source  will solve this issue. Maybe not 
> practical for FaceTime if you are going around the house, but I use this 
> method quite a bit if I’m listening to a presentation on Zoom.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 06:31, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yes I did.
>> THe nc works as it should.
>> What I was talking about was that the audio bandwithth is decreased when 
>> speaking on zoom.
>> And if you take a phone call on the Mac the same thing happens.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 5 juni 2021 kl. 23:59 skrev Les Kriegler >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> On the Airpods Max, did you hit the square button to select cancellation 
>>> mode. This should eliminate all background noise. If you have it set to 
>>> Transparency Mode, You will hear background noise.
>>> Best,
>>>  
>>> Les
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 4:10 PM
>>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> >
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth headphone.
>>>  
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, the mic is not an issue.
>>> Its more that I hear the sound from others coming through headphones quite 
>>> muffled.
>>> This happens with my AirPods max as well as beats studio.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>> 
 5 juni 2021 kl. 20:41 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
  
 Hi,
  
 My experience is similar to that of Herbie.  That is, whether it’s Zoom, 
 Webex, Google Meet or FaceTime, or any other meeting client for that 
 matter, if you set your mic to either use the internal Mac mic, or use an 
 external desk mic, the sound in the headphones will improve considerably.
  
 Later…
  
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 
> On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
>  
> One trick you can do with zoom on the Mac when using Bluetooth 
> headphones. Switch the Mic to a new default such as your internal or an 
> external desk mic. It’s the mic specifically that changes the audio 
> quality and when not engaged, it acts like your only listening and 
> presents things in the normal quality. I don’t think I got this trick to 
> work on FaceTime though.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 04:51, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends!
>> This is an audio question.
>> When I am logged into zoom or talking to someone on FaceTime via 
>> speakers  the quality is very very good.
>> When I connect my beats studio or AirPods max via bluetooth and use the 
>> same apps the audio gets like its in a phone if you understand what I 
>> mean.
>> But my question is why this Is happening?
>> Is this because the bluetooth audio on my MacBook 1ir 2015 does not 
>> support the latest bluetooth standard or what causes this?
>> Thanks to anyone who can help.
>> /A   
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Re: Can i use thunderbolt external drive with Macbook air 2017 that has usb ports only?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

tim, Thank you for this.  I had no idea mini display port on that model doubles 
up as thunderbolt.  I’m sorry, I was asking many questions  some on the new 
mackbook air and one, this one, on the 2017 model which I’m going to be passing 
onto another person.  Hence the need for thunderbolt backup system.

Many thanks again, Tim

Andrew

> On 7 Jun 2021, at 15:35, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m confused.  There is a Mini Display port that doubles as a Thunderbolt 
> port on the right side of the 2017 MacBook Air, so there should be no adaptor 
> required.  On the right side of this model of MacBook Air, there is the SD 
> Card slot, a third USB A port and the Mini Display/Thunderbolt port.  I have 
> seen situations where that port fails with some displays, but if all is in 
> working order, then this port will work for you without any adaptor required.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 2:09 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve been searching for an adaptor that would allow me to use my thunderbolt 
>> external drives with macbook air 2017 that has usb ports only but I don’t 
>> seem to have any luck.  I’ve found usbC to thunderbolt adaptor or hub but 
>> not simply usb to thunderbolt adaptor.  I’m surprised: surely there must be 
>> a way of using thunderbolt external drive with macbook air 2017?  Any help 
>> would be hugely appreciated.
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Re: Bluetooth headphone.

[Herbie Allen]

Like I said, switching the mic source  will solve this issue. Maybe not 
practical for FaceTime if you are going around the house, but I use this method 
quite a bit if I’m listening to a presentation on Zoom.


> On Jun 7, 2021, at 06:31, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yes I did.
> THe nc works as it should.
> What I was talking about was that the audio bandwithth is decreased when 
> speaking on zoom.
> And if you take a phone call on the Mac the same thing happens.
> /A
> 
>> 5 juni 2021 kl. 23:59 skrev Les Kriegler > >:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> On the Airpods Max, did you hit the square button to select cancellation 
>> mode. This should eliminate all background noise. If you have it set to 
>> Transparency Mode, You will hear background noise.
>> Best,
>>  
>> Les
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth headphone.
>>  
>> Hi!
>> Well, the mic is not an issue.
>> Its more that I hear the sound from others coming through headphones quite 
>> muffled.
>> This happens with my AirPods max as well as beats studio.
>> /A
>> 
>> 
>>> 5 juni 2021 kl. 20:41 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> My experience is similar to that of Herbie.  That is, whether it’s Zoom, 
>>> Webex, Google Meet or FaceTime, or any other meeting client for that 
>>> matter, if you set your mic to either use the internal Mac mic, or use an 
>>> external desk mic, the sound in the headphones will improve considerably.
>>>  
>>> Later…
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Herbie Allen >>> > wrote:
  
 One trick you can do with zoom on the Mac when using Bluetooth headphones. 
 Switch the Mic to a new default such as your internal or an external desk 
 mic. It’s the mic specifically that changes the audio quality and when not 
 engaged, it acts like your only listening and presents things in the 
 normal quality. I don’t think I got this trick to work on FaceTime though.
 
 
 
> On Jun 5, 2021, at 04:51, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi friends!
> This is an audio question.
> When I am logged into zoom or talking to someone on FaceTime via speakers 
>  the quality is very very good.
> When I connect my beats studio or AirPods max via bluetooth and use the 
> same apps the audio gets like its in a phone if you understand what I 
> mean.
> But my question is why this Is happening?
> Is this because the bluetooth audio on my MacBook 1ir 2015 does not 
> support the latest bluetooth standard or what causes this?
> Thanks to anyone who can help.
> /A   
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Re: New macbook air & accessibility

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m not aware of any accessibility changes with the M1 vs Intel MacBook Airs.  
There are some changes in the way you access the recovery system, which have 
actually made it more accessible, but no downfalls as far as I am aware.

As Les mentioned, BootCamp is no longer supported in the M1 architecture.  I’ve 
not done this myself, as I do not bother with Windows on my Macs, This article’ 
from 9 to 5 Mac outlines how to install Windows on your Mac using Parallels.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/05/03/the-super-easy-guide-for-installing-windows-on-m1-macs-using-parallels-desktop-16-for-mac-video/
 


Parallels 16.5 claims full compatibility with M1 Macs.Now the accessibility 
and use of screen readers in this environment is not mentioned, so I’m not in 
the know for that.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 7, 2021, at 6:07 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I can answer your second question. Boot Camp no longer exists and the max 
> with the M1 chip. As far as I know, running windows at this point would be 
> very difficult to accomplish. That could change in the future, but right now, 
> it’s my understanding that you really cannot do it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I may be getting a new macbook air with m1 chip.  I wanted to ask what 
>> differences there may be in voiceover or shortcut keys that I should be 
>> aware of.  Also, is it possible to run Windows 10 in Bootcamp on these new 
>> machines?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Can i use thunderbolt external drive with Macbook air 2017 that has usb ports only?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m confused.  There is a Mini Display port that doubles as a Thunderbolt port 
on the right side of the 2017 MacBook Air, so there should be no adaptor 
required.  On the right side of this model of MacBook Air, there is the SD Card 
slot, a third USB A port and the Mini Display/Thunderbolt port.  I have seen 
situations where that port fails with some displays, but if all is in working 
order, then this port will work for you without any adaptor required.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 7, 2021, at 2:09 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I’ve been searching for an adaptor that would allow me to use my thunderbolt 
> external drives with macbook air 2017 that has usb ports only but I don’t 
> seem to have any luck.  I’ve found usbC to thunderbolt adaptor or hub but not 
> simply usb to thunderbolt adaptor.  I’m surprised: surely there must be a way 
> of using thunderbolt external drive with macbook air 2017?  Any help would be 
> hugely appreciated.
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Re: New macbook air & accessibility

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Andrew,

I can answer your second question. Boot Camp no longer exists and the max with 
the M1 chip. As far as I know, running windows at this point would be very 
difficult to accomplish. That could change in the future, but right now, it’s 
my understanding that you really cannot do it.

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
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> 
> Many thanks
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Re: Bluetooth headphone.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes I did.
THe nc works as it should.
What I was talking about was that the audio bandwithth is decreased when 
speaking on zoom.
And if you take a phone call on the Mac the same thing happens.
/A

> 5 juni 2021 kl. 23:59 skrev Les Kriegler :
> 
> Hi,
> On the Airpods Max, did you hit the square button to select cancellation 
> mode. This should eliminate all background noise. If you have it set to 
> Transparency Mode, You will hear background noise.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 4:10 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth headphone.
>  
> Hi!
> Well, the mic is not an issue.
> Its more that I hear the sound from others coming through headphones quite 
> muffled.
> This happens with my AirPods max as well as beats studio.
> /A
> 
> 
>> 5 juni 2021 kl. 20:41 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> My experience is similar to that of Herbie.  That is, whether it’s Zoom, 
>> Webex, Google Meet or FaceTime, or any other meeting client for that matter, 
>> if you set your mic to either use the internal Mac mic, or use an external 
>> desk mic, the sound in the headphones will improve considerably.
>>  
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Herbie Allen >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> One trick you can do with zoom on the Mac when using Bluetooth headphones. 
>>> Switch the Mic to a new default such as your internal or an external desk 
>>> mic. It’s the mic specifically that changes the audio quality and when not 
>>> engaged, it acts like your only listening and presents things in the normal 
>>> quality. I don’t think I got this trick to work on FaceTime though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 5, 2021, at 04:51, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi friends!
 This is an audio question.
 When I am logged into zoom or talking to someone on FaceTime via speakers  
 the quality is very very good.
 When I connect my beats studio or AirPods max via bluetooth and use the 
 same apps the audio gets like its in a phone if you understand what I mean.
 But my question is why this Is happening?
 Is this because the bluetooth audio on my MacBook 1ir 2015 does not 
 support the latest bluetooth standard or what causes this?
 Thanks to anyone who can help.
 /A   
 
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New macbook air & accessibility

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I may be getting a new macbook air with m1 chip.  I wanted to ask what 
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of.  Also, is it possible to run Windows 10 in Bootcamp on these new machines?

Many thanks

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Can i use thunderbolt external drive with Macbook air 2017 that has usb ports only?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’ve been searching for an adaptor that would allow me to use my thunderbolt 
external drives with macbook air 2017 that has usb ports only but I don’t seem 
to have any luck.  I’ve found usbC to thunderbolt adaptor or hub but not simply 
usb to thunderbolt adaptor.  I’m surprised: surely there must be a way of using 
thunderbolt external drive with macbook air 2017?  Any help would be hugely 
appreciated.


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