RE: New iPhone locked or unlocked
That's great news, Brad. Thank you for letting us know. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 7:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked There's no need for any of this. When you order your new phone from the Apple online store, you provide your phone number and your carrier and your phone arrives ready to activate. It will automatically activate when you turn it on for the first time. All you have to do is confirm some information and the phone automatically activates. I've done this many times. It works flawlessly. - Brad - On Mar 10, 2022, at 21:12, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Phil, When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the new phone. The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself. In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be transferred to the new phone. When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new device. Phil, try not to overthink this, okay? Given that you want to stay with Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or unlocked. Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be well. If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of moments. Good Luck and let us know how it goes. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C02C05C0-8E09-47FA-BEDD-94DDF9A17FEE%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000e01d834f5%24cd6ffcd0%24684ff670%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate,
Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked
There's no need for any of this. When you order your new phone from the Apple online store, you provide your phone number and your carrier and your phone arrives ready to activate. It will automatically activate when you turn it on for the first time. All you have to do is confirm some information and the phone automatically activates. I've done this many times. It works flawlessly. - Brad - On Mar 10, 2022, at 21:12, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Phil, When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the new phone. The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself. In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be transferred to the new phone. When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new device. Phil, try not to overthink this, okay? Given that you want to stay with Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or unlocked. Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be well. If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of moments. Good Luck and let us know how it goes. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C02C05C0-8E09-47FA-BEDD-94DDF9A17FEE%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000e01d834f5%24cd6ffcd0%24684ff670%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for
RE: New iPhone locked or unlocked
Hello Phil, When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the new phone. The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself. In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be transferred to the new phone. When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new device. Phil, try not to overthink this, okay? Given that you want to stay with Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or unlocked. Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be well. If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of moments. Good Luck and let us know how it goes. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C02C05C0-8E09-47FA-BEDD-94DDF9A17FEE%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000e01d834f5%24cd6ffcd0%24684ff670%24%40ucla.edu.
Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked
An e-SIM may be an option in some cases, too. If you travel internationally, obtaining a SIM card from a local carrier for the duration of your stay is often better than paying what can in some circumstances be very heavy roaming charges from your existing carrier. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of Phil Halton Date: Thursday, 10March, 2022 at 14:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked So Brad, I’m assuming that when you make the purchase, you select to have them transfer your phone number (i.e. Sim card etc.) to the new phone and when you receive it you then have to activate it with the carrier? Maybe I got some bad info about it being locked to the carrier that way. Even if it is I suppose it doesn’t matter if you’re happy with your current carrier. Still trying to figure out what the advantage of buying an unlocked phone is, Since if it isn’t locked then you could swap out Sim cards all day whether you bought a phone with your number transferred or the “unlocked“ version.… Probably going to buy a new phone well my money still has purchasing power. Going from a 10r to 13. And I’ll most likely have them set it up for me. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/95B29839-4D65-4C6C-A18F-2BF79A15F8E9%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/SJ0PR07MB850465FB29175330277C83B6FF0B9%40SJ0PR07MB8504.namprd07.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Dropbox for Mac client, menu accessibility
Thank you – I’ll try the solution proposed. I also think they ought to fix the menu invocation. They have an accessibility page and a VPAT, but I couldn’t find contact details for their accessibility department. In any case, I only have a free account, so I’m not a paying customer at this stage. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jürgen Fleger Date: Thursday, 10March, 2022 at 03:02 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox for Mac client, menu accessibility Hi, I experience the same on my MacBook M1 Pro. I guess it's the new version which eventually is compatible to the M1 chips. Unfortunately it's no longer possible to see the status of up and downloads. To open this menu it's not enough to use VO Space. You need to route the mouse pointer there and perform a left mouse click. All the best Jürgen Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 10.03.2022 um 01:23 schrieb 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > : > > I recently installed Dropbox, as I've needed to transfer files to a company > that uses it in relation to a service they're providing. > > The version I've installed is probably the new one for M1-based Mac systems. > > There is an entry for Dropbox in Menu Extras, which VoiceOver identifies > correctly, but trying to activate it with Ctrl-Option-Space doesn't seem to > have any effect. There are no secondary actions either. > > Has anyone else on the list encountered this issue? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/01b7a901-65f8-1a24-0182-8b50d2061894%40jasonjgw.net. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A58B2181-DD91-4B13-B3B1-DA1A46813673%40fleger.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/SJ0PR07MB85044AA1B42098F71C6E921FFF0B9%40SJ0PR07MB8504.namprd07.prod.outlook.com.
Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked
So Brad, I’m assuming that when you make the purchase, you select to have them transfer your phone number (i.e. Sim card etc.) to the new phone and when you receive it you then have to activate it with the carrier? Maybe I got some bad info about it being locked to the carrier that way. Even if it is I suppose it doesn’t matter if you’re happy with your current carrier. Still trying to figure out what the advantage of buying an unlocked phone is, Since if it isn’t locked then you could swap out Sim cards all day whether you bought a phone with your number transferred or the “unlocked“ version.… Probably going to buy a new phone well my money still has purchasing power. Going from a 10r to 13. And I’ll most likely have them set it up for me. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/95B29839-4D65-4C6C-A18F-2BF79A15F8E9%40gmail.com.
Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked
iPhones purchased directly from Apple via the website or the Apple store app, are always unlocked, and not tied to a certain carrier even though you may specify a carrier when ordering your new iPhone. I have purchased my last several iPhones from Apple this way, and can confirm that the iPhone you receive is ready to go and not locked to my carrier. As far as I'm concerned, this is the only way to purchase a new iPhone. - Brad - On Mar 10, 2022, at 10:46, Phil Halton wrote: Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C02C05C0-8E09-47FA-BEDD-94DDF9A17FEE%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0A3C6124-BB62-4ECB-928E-3557F931D375%40swbell.net.
New iPhone locked or unlocked
Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C02C05C0-8E09-47FA-BEDD-94DDF9A17FEE%40gmail.com.
Re: Dropbox for Mac client, menu accessibility
Hi, I experience the same on my MacBook M1 Pro. I guess it's the new version which eventually is compatible to the M1 chips. Unfortunately it's no longer possible to see the status of up and downloads. To open this menu it's not enough to use VO Space. You need to route the mouse pointer there and perform a left mouse click. All the best Jürgen Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 10.03.2022 um 01:23 schrieb 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > : > > I recently installed Dropbox, as I've needed to transfer files to a company > that uses it in relation to a service they're providing. > > The version I've installed is probably the new one for M1-based Mac systems. > > There is an entry for Dropbox in Menu Extras, which VoiceOver identifies > correctly, but trying to activate it with Ctrl-Option-Space doesn't seem to > have any effect. There are no secondary actions either. > > Has anyone else on the list encountered this issue? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/01b7a901-65f8-1a24-0182-8b50d2061894%40jasonjgw.net. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A58B2181-DD91-4B13-B3B1-DA1A46813673%40fleger.net.
