Re: a security / privacy settings question.

[Herbie Allen]

In iOS, you cannot download apps from third-party sites, you have no choice but 
to use the App store. As a result, every app is vetted by Apple before 
submission. The other result is that if someone wants you to run they're 
program, they have to submit the app directly to Apple. The Mac however is a  
different animal. We can use Safari to download directly and the system is not 
directly sandboxed. Take Zoom. To use it on the iPhone, App  store, no other 
way though it might work through Safari. However, there is no Zoom app on the 
Mac App store. There are some things that will work with Zoom, but if you want 
the actual program the company provides, you have to go to there website. It’s 
a safe app to download, but I don’t know if you restrict your downloads if that 
one would work for instance. My point though is that if you only download apps 
from people you know, then you don’t have to worry about security measures that 
may or may not hamper your Mac experience.

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 21:35, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Is not that what is meant by trusted developers though?  My understanding is 
> that limiting downloads can protect   you from bugs and viruses.
> I know nothing about the IOS store, having no iPhone.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
> 
>> I think the possible time goes into the hours. As for the app store apps, 
>> keep in mind that the Mac app store is not like the one for iOS. I suppose 
>> m1 users might have a bit more flex-ability in this manner with Catalyst, 
>> but I would not want to limit my app download options for the Mac since most 
>> will come from third-party sites.
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 20:08, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi folks,
>>> I may wait to address this, but since my hmemate and I will be addressing 
>>> the log in password request happening every time a awaken the mac tomorrow, 
>>> thought I would ask about this.
>>> I understand from another, and far more informed apple accessibility team 
>>> member that I can either turn off the password request, or decide how often 
>>> I want the request to happen, anyone have an idea how much time is possible?
>>> Also, thoughts on the safety of allowing downloads only from the apple 
>>> store, and  trusted developers?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: a security / privacy settings question.

[Karen Lewellen]

Is not that what is meant by trusted developers though?  My understanding 
is that limiting downloads can protect   you from bugs and viruses.

I know nothing about the IOS store, having no iPhone.



On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:


I think the possible time goes into the hours. As for the app store apps, keep 
in mind that the Mac app store is not like the one for iOS. I suppose m1 users 
might have a bit more flex-ability in this mannor with Catalyst, but I would 
not want to limit my app download options for the Mac since most will come from 
third-party sites.


On Jun 14, 2022, at 20:08, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

hi folks,
I may wait to address this, but since my hmemate and I will be addressing the 
log in password request happening every time a awaken the mac tomorrow, thought 
I would ask about this.
I understand from another, and far more informed apple accessibility team 
member that I can either turn off the password request, or decide how often I 
want the request to happen, anyone have an idea how much time is possible?
Also, thoughts on the safety of allowing downloads only from the apple store, 
and  trusted developers?
Thanks,
Kare




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Re: a security / privacy settings question.

[Herbie Allen]

I think the possible time goes into the hours. As for the app store apps, keep 
in mind that the Mac app store is not like the one for iOS. I suppose m1 users 
might have a bit more flex-ability in this mannor with Catalyst, but I would 
not want to limit my app download options for the Mac since most will come from 
third-party sites. 

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 20:08, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> hi folks,
> I may wait to address this, but since my hmemate and I will be addressing the 
> log in password request happening every time a awaken the mac tomorrow, 
> thought I would ask about this.
> I understand from another, and far more informed apple accessibility team 
> member that I can either turn off the password request, or decide how often I 
> want the request to happen, anyone have an idea how much time is possible?
> Also, thoughts on the safety of allowing downloads only from the apple store, 
> and  trusted developers?
> Thanks,
> Kare
> 
> 

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a security / privacy settings question.

[Karen Lewellen]

hi folks,
I may wait to address this, but since my hmemate and I will be addressing 
the log in password request happening every time a awaken the mac 
tomorrow, thought I would ask about this.
I understand from another, and far more informed apple accessibility team 
member that I can either turn off the password request, or decide how 
often I want the request to happen, anyone have an idea how much time is 
possible?
Also, thoughts on the safety of allowing downloads only from the apple 
store, and  trusted developers?

Thanks,
Kare

Re: Obsolete Email Address

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thinking... in efforts to move away from Windows and more deeply 
into Apple devices, am I correct that I should ADD my accounts to my 
contacts? I have a feeling I missed something. I need to go eat and then 
get back to this.


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will make violent revolution inevitable."
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On 6/14/2022 2:51 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

In Mail settings, where it says something about the default sending 
address, is it still happen to be there?


Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  On m iPhone I just tried to share from an app and sent it to one of 
my addresses. It shows as undeliverable. The From field shows an old 
address no longer in use.


  I cannot find where to delete this old address. I looked in Mail 
settings but only see my valid addresses/accounts.  Thanks.


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Re: Obsolete Email Address

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I poked around some more. I found a 'clear recents' item and tapped 
it. But then I had trouble trying to choose an account to send to. It 
definitely is being sent from the default account. I need to get a 
handle on selecting another account. How can I ensure my other accounts 
are available here?


   It seems messy but I want to learn the different share options. I 
ended u saving a file to iCloud Drive.


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On 6/14/2022 2:51 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

In Mail settings, where it says something about the default sending 
address, is it still happen to be there?


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On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:31, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  On m iPhone I just tried to share from an app and sent it to one of 
my addresses. It shows as undeliverable. The From field shows an old 
address no longer in use.


  I cannot find where to delete this old address. I looked in Mail 
settings but only see my valid addresses/accounts.  Thanks.


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Re: How to delete messages in the app message?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

OK, no problem.  Pretty well the same process.  If you wish to delete a 
specific message within a conversation, then navigate to the message, press 
VO-cmd-space to bring up the Actions menu, then arrow down to “show Menu” and 
press VO-space,  Now, arrow down to “Delete” and press return.  If you wish to 
delete the entire conversation, navigate to the conversation in the table, 
press VO-cmd-space to bring up the Actions menu, then arrow down to “delete”, 
press return, then confirm.

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> On Jun 14, 2022, at 15:57, Rena  wrote:
> 
> I mean how to delete messages in the Mac.
> I opened the messages app, but I don’t find the way to delete them.
>  
> Rena
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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> Hi,
>  
> If this is on iPhone or iPad, then navigate to the Message you wish to 
> delete.  When you land on the message you want to delete, swipe up or down 
> until you hear VO announce, “More”, then double-tap.  Now, move your finger 
> to the bottom of the screen, and you’ll find a “Delete” button in the 
> Toolbar.  Double-tap it and that message will be deleted.
>  
> If you mean to delete an entire conversation, or message thread, then swipe 
> up or down on that conversation until you hear VO announce “Delete”.  
> Double-tap and confirm and the entire message thread will be deleted.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
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> 
>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:37, Rena > > wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>  
>> Would anyone please explain how to delete messages in the message app?
>> I’m trying, but I don’t know how to do it.
>>  
>> Rena
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RE: How to delete messages in the app message?

[Rena]

I mean how to delete messages in the Mac.

I opened the messages app, but I don’t find the way to delete them.

 

Rena

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to delete messages in the app message?

 

Hi,

 

If this is on iPhone or iPad, then navigate to the Message you wish to delete.  
When you land on the message you want to delete, swipe up or down until you 
hear VO announce, “More”, then double-tap.  Now, move your finger to the bottom 
of the screen, and you’ll find a “Delete” button in the Toolbar.  Double-tap it 
and that message will be deleted.

 

If you mean to delete an entire conversation, or message thread, then swipe up 
or down on that conversation until you hear VO announce “Delete”.  Double-tap 
and confirm and the entire message thread will be deleted.

 

HTH.

 

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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada





On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:37, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

Would anyone please explain how to delete messages in the message app?

I’m trying, but I don’t know how to do it.

 

Rena

 

 

 

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Re: Obsolete Email Address

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Hi,

In Mail settings, where it says something about the default sending address, is 
it still happen to be there?

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>   On m iPhone I just tried to share from an app and sent it to one of my 
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> longer in use.
> 
>   I cannot find where to delete this old address. I looked in Mail settings 
> but only see my valid addresses/accounts.  Thanks.
> 
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Re: How to delete messages in the app message?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If this is on iPhone or iPad, then navigate to the Message you wish to delete.  
When you land on the message you want to delete, swipe up or down until you 
hear VO announce, “More”, then double-tap.  Now, move your finger to the bottom 
of the screen, and you’ll find a “Delete” button in the Toolbar.  Double-tap it 
and that message will be deleted.

If you mean to delete an entire conversation, or message thread, then swipe up 
or down on that conversation until you hear VO announce “Delete”.  Double-tap 
and confirm and the entire message thread will be deleted.

HTH.

Later…


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> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:37, Rena  wrote:
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> Hello,
>  
> Would anyone please explain how to delete messages in the message app?
> I’m trying, but I don’t know how to do it.
>  
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How to delete messages in the app message?

[Rena]

Hello,

 

Would anyone please explain how to delete messages in the message app?

I'm trying, but I don't know how to do it.

 

Rena

 

 

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Obsolete Email Address

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   On m iPhone I just tried to share from an app and sent it to one of 
my addresses. It shows as undeliverable. The From field shows an old 
address no longer in use.


   I cannot find where to delete this old address. I looked in Mail 
settings but only see my valid addresses/accounts.  Thanks.


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Re: Zoom Meeting

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Brad,
   Thanks, I will do this shortly. I am reminded of something I should 
ask. Dow it matter which email is tied to my Zoom account? The meeting 
invite will come to a different email address.


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On 6/14/2022 7:21 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

You should be able to start a practice meeting using your PMI.
I recommend doing this because the Mac will ask that you grant permissions for 
using the microphone and camera.  I also recommend you try doing a screen share 
and/or computer audio share, because the Mac will ask you to grant permissions 
to allow screen recording in order to do this.

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things are set to your liking.
I also recommend that before starting a meeting, you go into Audio preferences, 
and make sure your preferred input and output devices are selected.
It is a good idea to do this every-time you start a meeting until you are 
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   Zoom is installed on my devices but I have not used it so far. I will in a 
couple weeks so am looking for tips. Likely will use the Mac. Is there a test 
mode where I can check it out and become familiar with it? Thanks.

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Re: Apple TV 4k and Apps

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   I should have waited until my head was on straight before I did 
this. But its done. It was odd that one app was the oy victim of the 
tvOS update.


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On 6/14/2022 8:37 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

I haven’t used that feature on my Apple TV, but do agree with the pain 
in the *** when trying to activate things like Prime video.  Normally, 
when scanning a QR code, all you need to do is to open the Camera app on 
your iPhone, then point it at the TV>. When the camera detects the QR 
code, it will say so, then give you the opportunity to open the related 
site.  What happens after that will depend on how that vender set up 
their authentication and activation site.


Sorry, probably not the most helpful.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On Jun 13, 2022, at 22:44, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Tim,
  I am relieved that deleting the app did not lose my settings. But I 
had forgotten the pain of going to a web site and entering an 
activation code. :)


  I did have the option of scanning a QR code. For next time, how does 
that work? Thanks. You are the best go to resource.


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On 6/11/2022 5:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Not really.  Deleting it, or waiting to see if the app has an update 
that fixes the problem is your best choices.  I’ve seen this happen 
where you need to delete, then re-install an app as it was somehow 
corrupted during the update process.

Later…
Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  Yesterday I updated with he 15.1 release. Now I have one app that 
when I open it, I hear 'in progress' and am then back on the home 
screen.


  Short of deleting the app, which would lose my settings there, is 
there a way to fix this? The app does not show in the list of 
purchased apps. I did a search and the app comes u with the Open 
button. Thanks.


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Re: Help, I’m drowning in junk mail

[Doug Lee]

This is probably off topic so please pardon my reply, but having dealt once 
with a wild fluke that caused over
100,000 junk mails per day for a while, I sympathize. :) No that number is not 
a typo.

The answer depends on several things:

First, is there anything consistent about the junk mail--e.g., sender address, 
sender domain, subject line or
key words in it? At a deeper level if you are comfortable finding and 
inspecting mail headers, you may find
common header elements that are not normally visible in daily mail reading. 
These can of course serve in mail
handling rules.

Is the address to which the junk is being sent exactly the same as your normal 
address? I ask this because I
am in the habit of giving out variants that still reach me but that let me 
filter out spam if one of the
variants starts generating it. As a bonus, this also lets me sometimes identify 
who or what is responsible for
the spam. Unlikely for you maybe, but worth asking because filtering by 
recipient address can be very
effective for some cases.

If you collect mail from more than one mailbox and find that the spam is coming 
from one you don't use, you
could consider dropping that mailbox. I've lost track of how many times I've 
seen a ten-year-old mailbox
belonging to a long-time friend suddenly start sending out spam. That doesn't 
of course sound like your issue,
but it does indicate how common it may be for people simply to forget about old 
mailboxes and not maintain
them. Of course, if this *is* your issue, you would likely have discovered this 
when checking for common
elements, my first suggestion.

In my 100,000 per day mail case, I actually wrote a program to clean out my 
upstream folder via IMAP just
before I downloaded mail each time. I doubt you have to go that far.

For the curious, here is what happened to me:

In August, 2012, someone started sending literally millions of spam emails but 
listing my domain as the origin of the
spam. As is often the case with such mass spam generation, a great many of the 
destination addresses were invalid. For
each of these, the various mail daemons, that being programs that process mail 
for us, dutifully sent back an error
indicating that the message could not be delivered. Since the messages had been 
crafted to consider my domain as the
origin, the daemons sent the error reports to me, to the tune of, as I said, 
sometimes over 100,000 error messages a
day. The program I wrote made mail completely manageable anyway, but I suspect 
that particular spam attack would have
stopped most routine computer users from keeping up for a while.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 10:20:07AM -0400, Phil Halton wrote:
I don’t know what happened, but in the last week or so I’m deluge by a tsunami 
of junk mail. All I know to do is to move these messages to the junk mail 
folder and hopes that Apple mail will see it as junk and maybe start cutting 
down the volume of it. What can a person do when they’re overwhelmed by junk 
mail?

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Apple TV 4k and Apps

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I haven’t used that feature on my Apple TV, but do agree with the pain in the 
*** when trying to activate things like Prime video.  Normally, when scanning a 
QR code, all you need to do is to open the Camera app on your iPhone, then 
point it at the TV>. When the camera detects the QR code, it will say so, then 
give you the opportunity to open the related site.  What happens after that 
will depend on how that vender set up their authentication and activation site.

Sorry, probably not the most helpful.

Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 13, 2022, at 22:44, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>   I am relieved that deleting the app did not lose my settings. But I had 
> forgotten the pain of going to a web site and entering an activation code. :)
> 
>   I did have the option of scanning a QR code. For next time, how does that 
> work? Thanks. You are the best go to resource.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
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> 
> On 6/11/2022 5:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Not really.  Deleting it, or waiting to see if the app has an update that 
>> fixes the problem is your best choices.  I’ve seen this happen where you 
>> need to delete, then re-install an app as it was somehow corrupted during 
>> the update process.
>> Later…
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yesterday I updated with he 15.1 release. Now I have one app that when I 
>>> open it, I hear 'in progress' and am then back on the home screen.
>>> 
>>>   Short of deleting the app, which would lose my settings there, is there a 
>>> way to fix this? The app does not show in the list of purchased apps. I did 
>>> a search and the app comes u with the Open button. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
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Re: Zoom Meeting

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You should be able to start a practice meeting using your PMI.
I recommend doing this because the Mac will ask that you grant permissions for 
using the microphone and camera.  I also recommend you try doing a screen share 
and/or computer audio share, because the Mac will ask you to grant permissions 
to allow screen recording in order to do this.

You should also go through Zoom preferences, especially audio, and make sure 
things are set to your liking.
I also recommend that before starting a meeting, you go into Audio preferences, 
and make sure your preferred input and output devices are selected.
It is a good idea to do this every-time you start a meeting until you are 
confident that Zoom has learned your preferences.

HTH.

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  Zoom is installed on my devices but I have not used it so far. I will in a 
couple weeks so am looking for tips. Likely will use the Mac. Is there a test 
mode where I can check it out and become familiar with it? Thanks.

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Help, I’m drowning in junk mail

[Phil Halton]

I don’t know what happened, but in the last week or so I’m deluge by a tsunami 
of junk mail. All I know to do is to move these messages to the junk mail 
folder and hopes that Apple mail will see it as junk and maybe start cutting 
down the volume of it. What can a person do when they’re overwhelmed by junk 
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Sent from my IPhone

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Zoom Meeting

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Zoom is installed on my devices but I have not used it so far. I 
will in a couple weeks so am looking for tips. Likely will use the Mac. 
Is there a test mode where I can check it out and become familiar with 
it? Thanks.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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