Re: VoiceOver and Apple Script
Hi Chris and Linda. Thanks for the help. Will definitely have this enabled. Take care. Fonzie On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > Fonzie, > > In addition to checking scripts, my "cheat sheet" also says the keyboard > commander in VO utilities has to be "enabled." > > HTH > Linda > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fonzie > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:24 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: VoiceOver and Apple Script > > > Hey all, I hope everyone is well. > > Been a while since I have posted to the list. > > Anywho, a friend of mine recently got a mac, and he go the new mac, with > the wireless keyboard and mouse. > > Everything was set up fine, but when I told him he could get the time by > using Option + T while voiceover was running, the command did not work. > > I made sure to have him check the "Allow VoiceOver to be controlled by > AppleScript" in the VoiceOver Utility, but still no dice. > > Any idea as to why this is not working as it should? > > I know it iis an apple script, but as I remember it, when I loaded Snow > Leopard, my scripts worked out of the box. > > Help is appreciated if you have experienced this issue before, or have > some general direction of what I could have him do. > > Thanks. > > Take care. > > Fonzie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2956 - Release Date: 06/22/10 > 18:36:00 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VoiceOver and Apple Script
Hey all, I hope everyone is well. Been a while since I have posted to the list. Anywho, a friend of mine recently got a mac, and he go the new mac, with the wireless keyboard and mouse. Everything was set up fine, but when I told him he could get the time by using Option + T while voiceover was running, the command did not work. I made sure to have him check the "Allow VoiceOver to be controlled by AppleScript" in the VoiceOver Utility, but still no dice. Any idea as to why this is not working as it should? I know it iis an apple script, but as I remember it, when I loaded Snow Leopard, my scripts worked out of the box. Help is appreciated if you have experienced this issue before, or have some general direction of what I could have him do. Thanks. Take care. Fonzie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Used an iPad today
Reading all this iPad stuff makes me want to jump in for a quick second. On the iPad, I think it's a interesting concept all the same. Really, I believe the iPad is best described as a Coffee Table Centered Device. Sure, there is travel and such, but the iPad in general seems like a device you would want to keep at home, bring it with you around the house, and store it on the coffee table when not in use. Might be a bit strange to call it that, and to place it in that prospective, but that's how I currently see it. Take care all. Fonzie On Apr 9, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: > The iPad is actually much more than either of those concepts. > > It's a productivity tool, a media consumption device, and several other > things. Really, the beauty of the iPad is that it is whatever you, > personally, need it to be. Several reviewers are calling it a "blank slate", > and that's very apt. > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:43 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> Olivia and John, >> >> Yes I agree, the IPad is not a netbook, it's a digital / ebook reading >> device and or entertainment device. >> >> Yeah ok you can surf the net and or check email. But it's more for being >> able to source digital / ebook reading tool. >> >> Hence the reason a number of USA university / colleges are now selling them >> to their students instead of printed text books. >> >> That's what I'd be buying one for, not for making phone calls on. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of olivia norman >> Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2010 6:24 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Used an iPad today >> >> Well stated, as always, John! >> Olivia >> >> On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> Actually, as has been said several times, it is not over priced. For >> those who believe this to be the case, unfortunately, you still are not >> getting what the iPad is. It is not a net book nor is it meant to compete >> with one. When you understand that basic point, you will understand the >> value of it. The problem is, people are simply trying to categorize it into >> the same class as net books, and it is not the case at all. It is a mobile >> device that is meant to be more of an appliance than a computer. >>> >>> I'd take an iPad over a net book any day, and I could list several >> reasons why, starting from the basic point that I would rather stay away >> from Windows completely and don't want to bother with linux. I think you >> are going to see more and more people making a similar choice once they >> experience an iPad and start to grasp exactly what it is. I also don't mind >> being tied to the hundreds of thousands of applications big brother Apple >> wants me to use because they are just as diverse and comprehensive as >> Windblows software for a net book, but that, of course, is just me. As >> third party developers continue to create additional software and the >> flexibility and power of the device is unleashed more and more, you are >> going to see more and more of the me too companies trying to duplicate the >> iPad as MS and HP are already attempting. I find it particularly amusing >> that with so many people condemning the iPad as an "over priced net book", >> there is such a big rush for companies to release their iPad clones and try >> to catch a ride on the wave. Isn't insanity failing at the same thing over >> and over again? >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John Panarese >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Rich Ring wrote: >>> >>>> I think it is over priced as well. I can buy a netbook with far greater >>>> storage capacity for far less, and even if I buy System Access, I'll have >> a >>>> lower price, and I am not limited to the Software big brother Apple wants >> me >>>> to have. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Robert Carter" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:56 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Used an iPad today >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am surprised that you feel that the iPad is over priced. It seems to me >> >>>> that Apple has really made a place for themselves in the lower priced >>>> devices with the introduction of the i
Re: is flash accessible or not?
Hey all. Yes, the site has changed since this morning. In place of the flash based blogging area, you now have all the information that was blogged about while the event was going on. During the event, the real time blog was definitely in flash. This was teh actual area that VoiceOver skipped, after the heading about the event that took place with Apple. The area is gone though. Hope this helps. Fonzie On Apr 8, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Yeah. It seems like the site has changed. I think it was flash because they > said so. > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den Apr 8, 2010 kl. 8:52 PM skrev Chris Blouch: > >> How do you know it's Flash? I guess the site has changed since you sent >> this. The only Flash I found was an ad. >> >> CB >> >> Søren Jensen wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I'm really confused now. I always thought flash wasn't accessible with >>> voiceover, but something seems to have changed. I just checked out the site >>> for the upcomming Apple event tonight, and I noticed that the flash they >>> use for the mail subscription is totally accessible. >>> Here is the link: >>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20001876-37.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=News-Apple >>> I know it's flash cause of the following text: >>> if you want to get an e-mail reminder of when the live blog starts, just >>> sign up for it in the Flash module below. >>> Sorry, but this makes me confused in a positiv way. :) >>> Best regards >>> Søren Jensen >>> Mail & MSN: >>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>> Website: >>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is flash accessible or not?
Hey there, hope everything is well. >From my assumption, flash is not yet accessible with VoiceOver. From what I >can see, there is a flash module that has flash imbedded properties, but >VoiceOver cannot see them. I have checked the page with my vision, and >scanned with VoiceOver, I have also taken trips to other sites containing >Flash Access, and no dice. Hope this helps. If it is accessible, it might be to a point, perhaps being able to see imbedded buttons that allow you to tag, share, and so fourth. Other then that, the actual player or module using flash is not accessible with VoiceOver. Keep in mind, this is what I have tampered with, and to my knowledge, is what I have gathered. If it is accessible, I am sure someone will point it out. Take care. Fonzie On Apr 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Hi. > > I'm really confused now. I always thought flash wasn't accessible with > voiceover, but something seems to have changed. I just checked out the site > for the upcomming Apple event tonight, and I noticed that the flash they use > for the mail subscription is totally accessible. > Here is the link: > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20001876-37.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=News-Apple > I know it's flash cause of the following text: > if you want to get an e-mail reminder of when the live blog starts, just sign > up for it in the Flash module below. > Sorry, but this makes me confused in a positiv way. :) > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Labels and VO
HI all, I hope all is well. The introduction of labels is very handy indeed. would anyone know where these are saved at? Say, if I miss label something, or wish to relabel is, how would I go about accessing labels I already created? I might be looking in the wrong areas, but thought I would post it here, in case anyone has already found out how to do this. I know that VO + / will allow you to bring up the label editor, to assign something a label, but maybe there is a command that I am missing to bring up labels you already made? I am sure it is somewhere. Take care Fonzie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is Spaces and ...
Hi there Mark. I hope your well. To answer your question, I will give the following explanation. Spaces Spaces, like inLinux, called Workspaces, are simply put, new desktops. So, consider this. Your in a office, and you have four work desks at your disposal. You use each work desk to house different types of work you would like to keep track of. Say, one work desk is for fun, one is for viewing handouts, one is for viewing requests given to you by your staff, and another is for piling up work that needs to be done. This is this same in regards to Spaces on the mac, and the OS Snow Leopard. By default, four spaces are activated, once you enable the spaces function in Expose and Spaces within System Preferences. Once you enable Spaces, by default, Control + Numbers 1 through 4 will control what space your currently working on, or using. YOu can also have Spaces Menu show up in the Status Menu Bar, where Time Machine, Airport, your current time, and Bluetooth Icons are housed. Currently, I use spaces for having different areas. I only use two personally, I only use two spaces currently. I use Control + 1 for Space 1, and Control + 2 for Space 2. So, Space one, if spaces is enabled, is alays hte default space you will be on, when you start up your mac. If you leave your computer on, and your working on Space 2, you will return to that particular space once your Mac wakes up again. I use Space 1 for Chat, and Internet, while Space 2 is used for documents that I am editing, creating, or reading.. Think of Spaces as a way to narrow down cluttering of your desktop to keep things organized. Expose The best way I can sum up Expose is by saying that is a manager of multiple windows. To my knowledge, we can access Expose with VO, but are unable to tell what window is currently being highlighted, and what window is being selected. It is basically used so that you are able to see what windows you have open for that current application, or all windows you have opened, so that you can navigate to it more quickly. I hope this helps. Take care Fonzie On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:22 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > While I am sure this has been posted many times over, I'm afraid I > can't > find the answer and so I ask, what is Spaces? > > Also, what is Exposay? > > Thank you. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 7:11 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: spaces in snowleopard? > > > James, you bet I've been lobbying for this now on and off. Well okay > more on, but the point is I would actually use it and I think the > important thing is to show Apple that not everyone is a mouser and > there are those sightlings out there who use the keyboard and thus are > keyboarders. :) > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:43 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi Scott, >> >> Although I do not have my new Mac yet - I am using Windows at the >> moment as >> my old Mac broke and I had other reasons for moving away from Mac >> befoer >> coming back. >> >> Anyway... >> >> I have written to Apple in the past about this, and you may be >> correct that >> it may not be a widely used feature, but I will continue to write to >> them as >> well. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Howell" >> To: >> Cc: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by >> the blind" >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:33 PM >> Subject: Re: spaces in snowleopard? >> >> >>> >>> WIll opening the seed to more folks would not necessarily catch more >>> issues. Apple has a very diverse team of testers. As to your other >>> question, no at this time it is not possible and I strongly >>> encourage >>> you to write to Apple about this. Trust me, a lot of folks would >>> like >>> this to change and it would benefit sighted folks as well. It makes >>> me wonder if the issue is that people are not really using Spaces >>> and >>> so it is not a priority perhaps. >>> >>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 6:51 AM, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> In snowleopard, can one set up spaces and then press command tab to >>>> switch between applications running in the current space? >>>> I heard that in leopard if one attempted this, and they had say 2 >>>> aps >
Re: 64 Bit Mode?
Hi James, and others. Thanks for the help, and the explanation on 64 Bit. I had the idea what it meant, just was unsure if really was worth the switching. I did test it, and just check it if worked on my mac, and it does. Thanks again. Fonzie On Aug 30, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > And James I pretty much have heard that the average user wouldn't > notice a real bump in speed any way and really won't benefit from 64- > bit as well. The whole point is building the underpinnings of the > os for the next generation of software/hardware etc. A real bump in > speed will come from having solid state drives that can send/receive > data at the cpu's speed and even then how fast is fast. > On Aug 30, 2009, at 1:28 PM, James Dempsey wrote: > >> Fonzie, >> >> There's are two different things involved when talking about 64- >> bit. First is whether individual applications are running as 64- >> bit. If you have a 64-bit processor, then any application that is >> 64-bit capable will run 64-bit. 32-bit applications continue >> running as 32-bit. This happens automatically, and it depends on >> whether the individual program supports 64-bit. >> >> An application that is 64-bit can use more than 4GB of RAM, and >> also 64-bit Intel apps tend to perform better than 32-bit Intel apps. >> >> On SnowLeopard, just about every application that ships with >> SnowLeopard is 64-bit. You can check this yourself by launching >> Activity Monitor which is in the Utilities folder. Activity >> Monitor has a table of running programs. The "Kind" column in the >> table will say "Intel (64-bit)" for programs running in 64-bit, and >> just plain "Intel" for programs running in 32-bit. >> >> Everything that I described above happens without you doing a >> thing. If an app supports running as 64-bit, it does so >> automatically. If an app only supports 32-bit, it runs 32-bit >> automatically. >> >> The second thing involved is whether the Mac OS X kernel itself is >> running as 64-bit or 32-bit. According to this AppleCare article >> (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2937 >> ): >> >> "Third-party software (such as a virtualization engine) or hardware >> (such as a PCIe card) that relies on a kernel extension which was >> compatible with Mac OS X Server v10.5 may not work on servers that >> use the 64-bit kernel in Mac OS X Server v10.6." >> >> My guess is that there are enough kernel extensions out there that >> are not yet 64-bit, that it made sense to keep the kernel running >> in 32-bit, to prevent lots of users from having things stop working. >> >> Note that regardless of whether the low-level kernel code is >> running at 32 or 64 bit, you still get the advantages of >> applications running as 64-bit. >> >> So, that's the long answer to your question. The short answer to >> your question: >> >> "Should I worry about booting into 64 bit mode?" >> >> is no, you shouldn't worry about it. You are already, >> automatically, getting all the 64-bit benefits that are described >> for SnowLeopard here: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology. >> >> -James >> >> James Dempsey >> demp...@mac.com >> >> >> On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Fonzie wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi everyone, I hope your morning/afternoon, or whatever time it is >>> goes well. >>> >>> I noticed that Snow Leopard boots in 32 bit mode. >>> >>> I check the list of supported 64 bit Macs, and mine is surely on the >>> list. >>> >>> Should I worry about booting into 64 bit mode? >>> >>> If so, how would you make it so that it boots into 64 bit mode every >>> time, and not one that you would have to tell it too. >>> >>> Right now, the only way I know of to boot into 64 bit mode, is to >>> start up, and hold 6 and 4 keys down. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Fonzie >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: choppy reading in mail
Hey there Scott. Yeah, that does seem to be the case. Seems like different users are experiencing different issues here and there. Whether it be app related or VO related. I am sure, the next couple of updates will fix the minor issues we are each experiencing. On the upside, everything works well enough, that it isn't a deal break. At least, in my opinion. Take care. Fonzie On Aug 30, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Well Fonzie, seems you have enough ram and horsepower, so that is not > your issue. I still have not encountered this problem, but I have > encountered certain times when apps become busy with no reason that I > can determine. I suspect there are some bumps to be worked out > despite all the testing that has been done. > > On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Fonzie wrote: > >> >> Hi there Scott, how are youd oing? >> >> Sorry for the late reply. >> >> I noticed that Mail added all my AIM iMap folders upon installing >> Snow >> Leopard, and I just saw them just now. >> >> I was only used to seeing "Inbox", and now it shows all my folders >> associated with AIM Mail, like Spam, and such. >> >> A lot of the message from the list went into the Spam folder, so I am >> fixing that just now. >> >> As for what kind of mac I have. >> >> I bought my mac in August of 2008 >> >> So I have the folllowing: >> >> iMac Core 2 Duo 2.66GHZ >> 4G Ram >> ATI HD2600 Pro >> >> If there is anything else, let me know. >> >> Again, I apologize for the delayed response. >> >> Take care >> >> Fonzie >> >> >> On Aug 30, 2009, at 4:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Fonzie, what type of Mac do you have? I'm not encountering this >>> issue, >>> but I am looking to see if there is any patterns perhaps. Did you >>> do >>> a clean install or upgrade? >>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Fonzie wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I second the no issue with choppy reading area. >>>> >>>> The sub menu thing? >>>> >>>> I have seen that happen once or twice. >>>> >>>> I mainly see it when I pull up the main menu bar though, where >>>> apple >>>> and program related menus are located. What seems to happen is, >>>> VoiceOver will stop speaking here and there, and only when >>>> scrolling. >>>> This only happens if I go into the menu bar, pull down any menu of >>>> my >>>> choosing, and read it's contents. Then, I leave the menu bar, and >>>> immediately pull it up once more, and pull down a menu of my >>>> choosing, >>>> VoiceOver begins the small silence issue, even when scrolling >>>> through >>>> the menu items. >>>> >>>> For now, I just solve this by doing the following. ONce I attempt >>>> to >>>> go into the menu bar the second time, I wait a couple of seconds, >>>> and >>>> pull down the menu of my choice. Either that, or I pull down the >>>> menu >>>> I want, and then wait a couple of seconds, and start scrolling >>>> afterwards. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Fonzie >>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Funny, I'm having no issues with submenus in Mail or any other >>>>> app I >>>>> have used so far. There seems to be some slightly roughness to >>>>> the >>>>> reading, but not sure what the cause is and I noticed it only as a >>>>> slight thing, but of course level of annoyance is subjective for >>>>> sure. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I'm glad you mentioned this. The mail is read choppy. Alex >>>>>> reads smooth as ever in Safari. I currently only have my rate at >>>>>> 50, >>>>>> so I don't think rate is causing it. I'm also having no luck >>>>>> getting >>>>>> sub menus to work, Such as when I try to move a message to >>>>>> another >>>>>> box. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brett >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:50 AM, John J Herzog wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> I'm liking the snow leopard update so far, but I'm running into >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> annoyance with mail. Since the update, I noticed that voiceover >>>>>>> reads >>>>>>> messages much more choppy than before. Specifically, it pauses >>>>>>> too >>>>>>> long when it encounters a new line in the middle of text. Is >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> option to have voiceover keep speaking normally as if that new >>>>>>> line >>>>>>> did not occur in the middle of a sentence? >>>>>>> Thanks for your help, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: choppy reading in mail
Hi there Scott, how are youd oing? Sorry for the late reply. I noticed that Mail added all my AIM iMap folders upon installing Snow Leopard, and I just saw them just now. I was only used to seeing "Inbox", and now it shows all my folders associated with AIM Mail, like Spam, and such. A lot of the message from the list went into the Spam folder, so I am fixing that just now. As for what kind of mac I have. I bought my mac in August of 2008 So I have the folllowing: iMac Core 2 Duo 2.66GHZ 4G Ram ATI HD2600 Pro If there is anything else, let me know. Again, I apologize for the delayed response. Take care Fonzie On Aug 30, 2009, at 4:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Fonzie, what type of Mac do you have? I'm not encountering this issue, > but I am looking to see if there is any patterns perhaps. Did you do > a clean install or upgrade? > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Fonzie wrote: > >> >> I second the no issue with choppy reading area. >> >> The sub menu thing? >> >> I have seen that happen once or twice. >> >> I mainly see it when I pull up the main menu bar though, where apple >> and program related menus are located. What seems to happen is, >> VoiceOver will stop speaking here and there, and only when scrolling. >> This only happens if I go into the menu bar, pull down any menu of my >> choosing, and read it's contents. Then, I leave the menu bar, and >> immediately pull it up once more, and pull down a menu of my >> choosing, >> VoiceOver begins the small silence issue, even when scrolling through >> the menu items. >> >> For now, I just solve this by doing the following. ONce I attempt to >> go into the menu bar the second time, I wait a couple of seconds, and >> pull down the menu of my choice. Either that, or I pull down the >> menu >> I want, and then wait a couple of seconds, and start scrolling >> afterwards. >> >> Take care. >> >> Fonzie >> On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Funny, I'm having no issues with submenus in Mail or any other app I >>> have used so far. There seems to be some slightly roughness to the >>> reading, but not sure what the cause is and I noticed it only as a >>> slight thing, but of course level of annoyance is subjective for >>> sure. >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I'm glad you mentioned this. The mail is read choppy. Alex >>>> reads smooth as ever in Safari. I currently only have my rate at >>>> 50, >>>> so I don't think rate is causing it. I'm also having no luck >>>> getting >>>> sub menus to work, Such as when I try to move a message to another >>>> box. >>>> >>>> Brett >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:50 AM, John J Herzog wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I'm liking the snow leopard update so far, but I'm running into an >>>>> annoyance with mail. Since the update, I noticed that voiceover >>>>> reads >>>>> messages much more choppy than before. Specifically, it pauses too >>>>> long when it encounters a new line in the middle of text. Is there >>>>> an >>>>> option to have voiceover keep speaking normally as if that new >>>>> line >>>>> did not occur in the middle of a sentence? >>>>> Thanks for your help, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
64 Bit Mode?
Hi everyone, I hope your morning/afternoon, or whatever time it is goes well. I noticed that Snow Leopard boots in 32 bit mode. I check the list of supported 64 bit Macs, and mine is surely on the list. Should I worry about booting into 64 bit mode? If so, how would you make it so that it boots into 64 bit mode every time, and not one that you would have to tell it too. Right now, the only way I know of to boot into 64 bit mode, is to start up, and hold 6 and 4 keys down. Take care. Fonzie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: choppy reading in mail
I second the no issue with choppy reading area. The sub menu thing? I have seen that happen once or twice. I mainly see it when I pull up the main menu bar though, where apple and program related menus are located. What seems to happen is, VoiceOver will stop speaking here and there, and only when scrolling. This only happens if I go into the menu bar, pull down any menu of my choosing, and read it's contents. Then, I leave the menu bar, and immediately pull it up once more, and pull down a menu of my choosing, VoiceOver begins the small silence issue, even when scrolling through the menu items. For now, I just solve this by doing the following. ONce I attempt to go into the menu bar the second time, I wait a couple of seconds, and pull down the menu of my choice. Either that, or I pull down the menu I want, and then wait a couple of seconds, and start scrolling afterwards. Take care. Fonzie On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Funny, I'm having no issues with submenus in Mail or any other app I > have used so far. There seems to be some slightly roughness to the > reading, but not sure what the cause is and I noticed it only as a > slight thing, but of course level of annoyance is subjective for sure. > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: > >> >> Yes, I'm glad you mentioned this. The mail is read choppy. Alex >> reads smooth as ever in Safari. I currently only have my rate at 50, >> so I don't think rate is causing it. I'm also having no luck getting >> sub menus to work, Such as when I try to move a message to another >> box. >> >> Brett >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:50 AM, John J Herzog wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I'm liking the snow leopard update so far, but I'm running into an >>> annoyance with mail. Since the update, I noticed that voiceover >>> reads >>> messages much more choppy than before. Specifically, it pauses too >>> long when it encounters a new line in the middle of text. Is there >>> an >>> option to have voiceover keep speaking normally as if that new line >>> did not occur in the middle of a sentence? >>> Thanks for your help, >>> >>> John >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?
Thsi is strange to me. I am not have any issues with drop boxes in any application or preference paine, or even in Safari. What I am having an issue with is... VoiceOver + F1 and VoiceOver + F2 no longer works for me. Using oiceOver + F1 X2 and VoiceOver + F2 x2 no longer works either. So, neither the window chooser, nor hte applicaiton chooser comes up for me. Strange it is, but oh well, I get around it. Take care all. Fonzie On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > Hi all. > > Just wondering if anyone on the list may have an idea on how to > resolve this issue please? > > Since upgrading to Snow Leopard and now finding out dropbox menus > can't be accessed by using the window chooser vo f2 twice and arrow > down to untitled and hit enter and do a vo shift space to access the > menus, these commands no longer work on snow leopard. > > From what I read in the dropbox forums you can control click on > dropbox supposedly and access options but so far i've not been able to > accomplish this. > > Has anyone else tried using dropbox with Snow Leopard to see if there > is a work around? > > I realize there's not much we need to access in dropbox but having > access to the menus in dropbox under leopard was awesome because you > could tell if files were transferring or not. > > Is there something I should tell the developers to make it vo friendly > under snow leopard? > > If anyone has any info or suggestions on the above, please let us all > know. > > > Thanks very much for your time. > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: choppy reading in mail
Hi there John, how are you doing? I have not noticed this issue in mail. Maybe it might be because I have my rate at 50 percent? Not entirely sure, but I don't seem to notice a unusual pause while VoiceOver is reading mail. I do hear a pause here and there, but to me, it feels like it did in Leopard. Maybe others are experiencing the same issue as yourself? I am sure others will chime in with their thoughts. Remember though, an update will most likely come within the coming months, and will probably iron out some of the little annoyances we find as VoiceOver users. Take care. Fonzie On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:50 AM, John J Herzog wrote: > > Hi all, > I'm liking the snow leopard update so far, but I'm running into an > annoyance with mail. Since the update, I noticed that voiceover reads > messages much more choppy than before. Specifically, it pauses too > long when it encounters a new line in the middle of text. Is there an > option to have voiceover keep speaking normally as if that new line > did not occur in the middle of a sentence? > Thanks for your help, > > John > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adium
Hey there. I did expand the column, which gives me the associated contacts for that particular lists. VO does not however, read the name of that particular column. So, your AIM list is called Contacts, which is the column name. When arrowing to this column, whether expanded or not, voice over announces that it is a column, but does not however say the column name. Not a deal breaker, I would say. If you expand the column, you can tell what list you are in. Just thought I would report on it though. Take care. Fonzie On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:37 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > I don't have SL at the moment, but you might need to expand the > column. Not > sure how to do this at the present. Have you tried interacting with > it? > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Alfonzo Cuellar" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Adium > > >> >> Hey there everyone. >> >> Has anyone installed Adium? >> >> I installed it, and it seems, VoiceOver doesn't read the the label of >> each list now? >> >> For example, you have AIM, MSN, and Yahoo added to your accounts. >> >> When going through the lists, for me, VO only says Collom Collapsed. >> >> Has anyone else encountered this? >> >> Take care. >> >> Fonzie >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SL Question
i there Angel, how are you doing? Hope all is well for you. In regards to your Snow Leopard Question, here is how the licensing works. Single User This is the default one most people buy if they have one computer they wish to upgrade. This is the one selling for 30 dollars, will upgrade one computer only. Family Pack This is Snow Leopard, retailing at 49 dollars, and you are allowed to install it on 5 computers. There is another package.. but it is like 500 dollars, for a huge licensing allowance. Hope this helps out. Take care. Fonzie On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Angel wrote: > > Hi > > I have a quick question I have an iMac and a MBP ifI purchase the $29 > upgrade will i be able to install that on both computers or will I > have to buy two copies of it? > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Os or not?
Hey there everyone, Hi hope all is well. The Snow Leopard DVD shipping will be a fresh copy, allowing you to do a clean install if you are wanting to do so. Hope this helps. I know, once I get the new OS in my hands, I will be doing a fresh install, and wipe out hte current installation I have of Leopard. Take care Fonzie On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:17 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > So will the Erase and Install not be an option? > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: New Os or not? > > >> >> Well lets clear up one item here. The erase and install option will >> not be available in the menu as it is now. This was do to customers >> choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data. Erase and >> install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing >> up >> your data is absolutely critical regardless of how good the os is. >> Anything could happen and loosing your data is not worth taking the >> time to perform this critical step. This is where Time Machine >> really >> does shine and yeah, I've been there several times and I have >> suffered >> through significant data loss, but well that was do to a drive >> failure >> and the backup tape drive failing. :) >> On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> >>> You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing. >>> Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having >>> completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far as I >>> know, apple's operating system disks are all the same. >>> On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi all: >>>> >>>> I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern. >>>> Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous >>>> version of >>>> Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install. >>>> I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It can >>>> be >>>> problematic and that sounds vary much like another companies 98 >>>> platforms. >>>> Also, can VO be ran from the install like OSX-10.5? When I >>>> re_installed 10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes >>>> issue, >>>> when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off >>>> and >>>> listening. LOL >>>> >>>> Thanks: >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: don't like the voice on the i phone
Thanks for the information Ann. Was amazed to find a lot of languages there. Preetty neat if you ask me. Take care of yourself. Fonzie On Jul 30, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Fonzie, > > On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:26 AM, Fonzie wrote: >> Where would one find the extra english voices? Was curious about >> them and what was offered. >> > I posted this reply just a few hours ago, but here it is again. >> Go to Settings, then General, then International, and finally, >> Region Format. There you'll find a long list of countries. There >> are 3 English-language voices, US, UK, and Australia. > > I tried a few other countries, but they all gave me the US voice. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: don't like the voice on the i phone
Hey there all, how are you doing? I hope all is well. Where would one find the extra english voices? Was curious about them and what was offered. Thanks. Take care. Fonzie On Jul 30, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > I'm told that the date format is affected by the regional settings, so > if you're a north American and change to UK (perhaps Oz as well?), > you'll get European date format, i.e. day/month/year. I actually > prefer this, so no big deal to me. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: completely uninstalling Parallels
Hi Anna, how are you doing? I hope everything is going well. Have you checked in the following areas? Within your Macintosh HD folder, head into the following areas. System Folder In this folder, into your Library folder. Check the folders that are labeled Cache, preferences, preferences panes, receipts, and any other folder that might be related to the program you are trying to delete. AFterwards, go back out of the directory your working to, and return to the root folder within your Macintosh HD. To do this, use Command + Up, until you get to where you want. Go into the Users folder, select your user name, and head into Library. Once in that folder, check the folders I listed above, and make sure to check if any folders are related to the program you are installing within the main library folder. As for deleted machines and so fourth, usually, there is a folder within the Documents folder located in your Macintosh HD. I do not know if this is hte case with Parrallels, but you can certainly check and see if there is a default folder with virtual machines go too. I hope this helps. Take care. fonzie On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to be sure all traces of Parallels and the virtual Windows XP > machine it created are off my system before I try installing Fusion. I > ran the uninstall application that came with it, and it said it > removed Parallels but would leave Windows XP and activation files. > Does anyone know where these files are likely to be? I know Parallels > created a disk partition, but I don't see anything new when I move > through the sidebar. How can I find and remove it so I can start > clean? > > Thanks very much, > Anna > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IPhones
Hey there Simon, I hope your well. You are correct, the 16 GB is really all you will need. If you are a massive power user, then you can get the 32 GB, just depends on your needs and how much space you are wanting to have on your phone. Take care of yourself. Fonzie On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hes, > > The 16 is all you need, as long as it is the 16 GB iPhone 3GS. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 17-Jul-09, at 3:29 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> >> Thanks for that. >> So if the 16gig version is that much cheaper not that I'm in the >> USA to by >> from at&t. >> >> The 16 would be all I neex to have full accessibility. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fonzie >> Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 12:44 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: IPhones >> >> >> Hello Simon, how are you doing? >> >> Yes, you are correct in your assumption. >> >> Both models, iPhone 3GS 16 GB, and iPhone 3GS 32 GB, contain >> VoiceOver >> onboard. >> >> The prices are as follows. Keep in mind, I am listing the prices for >> the AT&T versions of these phones. >> >> If you are wanting to upgrade to a new two year agreement the prices >> are as follows. >> iPhone3GS 16GB $199.99 >> iPhone3GS 32GB $299.99 >> >> If AT&T allows you to do an early upgrade, in which that renews your >> contract for two years within your current contract, the prices are >> as >> follows. Keep in mind, not everyone is eligible for a contract >> renewal. All it simply means is, that your currently under contract, >> and if you are eligible, you can upgrade with the understanding that >> you are extending your contract for another two years. Remember, you >> must be under contract already, for this to happen. You usually have >> to be under contract for about a year, and they will allow you to >> upgrade early to a newer device. >> >> iPhone 3GS 16GB $399.99 >> iPhone 3GS 32GB $499.99 >> >> If you feel like buying an iPHone straight, with no contract, and >> under AT&T's retail price, the list is as follows. >> iPhone 3GS 16GB $499.99 >> iPhone 3GS 32GB $599.99 >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Take care. >> >> Fonzie >> >> On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >> >>> >>> Morning folks, >>> >>> Am I orrect in thinking there is a 32 and a 16 gig IPhone 3gs? >>> >>> And if so, does the 16 gig version have the VO / accessibility >>> onboard!? >>> >>> And what price are they going for In u s dollars if possible! >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> simon >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IPhones
Hello Simon, how are you doing? Yes, you are correct in your assumption. Both models, iPhone 3GS 16 GB, and iPhone 3GS 32 GB, contain VoiceOver onboard. The prices are as follows. Keep in mind, I am listing the prices for the AT&T versions of these phones. If you are wanting to upgrade to a new two year agreement the prices are as follows. iPhone3GS 16GB $199.99 iPhone3GS 32GB $299.99 If AT&T allows you to do an early upgrade, in which that renews your contract for two years within your current contract, the prices are as follows. Keep in mind, not everyone is eligible for a contract renewal. All it simply means is, that your currently under contract, and if you are eligible, you can upgrade with the understanding that you are extending your contract for another two years. Remember, you must be under contract already, for this to happen. You usually have to be under contract for about a year, and they will allow you to upgrade early to a newer device. iPhone 3GS 16GB $399.99 iPhone 3GS 32GB $499.99 If you feel like buying an iPHone straight, with no contract, and under AT&T's retail price, the list is as follows. iPhone 3GS 16GB $499.99 iPhone 3GS 32GB $599.99 I hope this helps. Take care. Fonzie On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Morning folks, > > Am I orrect in thinking there is a 32 and a 16 gig IPhone 3gs? > > And if so, does the 16 gig version have the VO / accessibility > onboard!? > > And what price are they going for In u s dollars if possible! > > Thanks > > simon > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voice over comes to the I phone
Hi everyone, I hope all is well. Just thought I would come in with my side of what all this is about. I think the idea of apple providing a mobile solution for the blind is wonderful. It just provides another choice for those with mobile accessibility needs. Choice is really what it is all about, in my opinion that is. what may sway people away from getting an iPhone is the fact that the iPhone, like the Blackbery, has it's own data plan. This isn't a deal breaker, but some may be comfortable with their current data plan,, while others may want to pay the more expensive or less expensive cost, depending on your needs of course. I like that it is coming around, and I certainly would like to try one out for myself. Will I switch to an iPhone, probably not anytime soon. My first priority is Snow Leopard, and then some side projects I have in mind as well. If I am able to try it however, I will be sure to post my findings, and what I think about it. Ultimately, the fact that the choice is provided, just makes the mobile world more accessible to the blind. Perhaps it will not be accessible with all applications, but the idea that it is accessible now, just provides more room for growth in the future. I believe the fact that accessible means coming out left and right, just pushes the growth of accessibility to better heights. Take care all. Best, Fonzie On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote: > > I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility > with the > maps program it comes with. I thought Apple is contractually > obligated to > stop short of turn by turn directions and not approve apps that do it. > > - Original Message - > From: "Larry Wanger" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone > > >> >> And, you've made the point. You have more choices and the main >> drivers >> behind your decision aren't what's accessible to you in the phone >> market, its what phone offers you what you need. And that my friend >> is >> what this is all about. You have another choice. >> >> Just as an FYI, you don't need iTunes once you get this set up. You >> need iTunes to get speech and other accessibility functions working >> on >> the phone for sure. But, after that, all bets are off. I know for a >> fact that there are 3rd party products out there that can allow you >> to >> sync your iPhone without ever using iTunes. In fact, I use one of >> those 3rd party products to sync up my Samsung right now. So, iTunes >> is not required. >> >> A BRF/Daisey reader, in due time I suspect. I'm sure that will >> happen. >> Like anything else, a developer just needs to step forward and do it. >> >> GPS solution for the blind? Who says that MobileGeo couldn't be >> written for the OS/phone platform? And, like the Windows based >> phones, >> I'm sure that through blue tooth you could use an independent GPS >> receiver as most of us do now. >> >> It is interesting that they don't mention Braille and I wonder about >> that feature as well. I don't use it but could see that being of >> value. So, maybe its in the works. >> >> However, nothing you've thrown out here seems impossible and, just >> like everyone else, you have a choice about what platform and phone >> you use. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:19 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi guys, I have to admit, when I read this, the sweat started >>> pouring >>> and the hart started thumping. It was better than my third cup of >>> coffee in the morning which I'm still looking forward to with some >>> anticipation, smiles. Speaking of which, one sec while I go pour >>> the >>> second one... >>> >>> OK, So here's why I won't be tossing my mobile speak pocket >>> licence in >>> the trash any time soon. >>> >>> First, I'm a scronnie, crabbie, and none too good-looking blind man. >>> An IPhone won't get me more girls, put 10 pounds of muscle on me in >>> exactly the right preportions, or make me a nicer person. So forget >>> it for the time being at least. >>> >>> So far, we have no braille display support. I haven't read anything >>> about a fully featured gps solution for the IPhone which I have to >>> have, or a brf reader which I don't have to have, but will use on >>> ocasion. So it's really exciting to see
Re: Recommendations?
Hey there, how is it going? I use Amadeus Pro, which isn't free, but is very accessible with VoiceOver. Aside from not being able to tell what your selecting, you can just play what you have selected and you should be fine. Otherwise, it is a very accessible solution. If I can help, let me know. Take care. Fonzie On May 31, 2009, at 3:42 PM, kaare dehard wrote: > > Hi folks, am looking for a good sound editor that is accessable for > the mac. Os 10.57 does audacity work well? I tried the beta and it > seems to have a lot of unknowns. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: rss
Hi Seren, how are you doing? Sorry if I came across as harsh in that last post. Your right. I myself don't do much with podcasts, and the ones I listen to are streamed on the web, so a RSS reader alone works well for me. Though, if others, such as yourself, are wanting to manage multiple types of stuff in one program, then PlayPod is indeed a great choice. I know I had mentioned that the program itself isn't updated anymore, or has little support, but that is still fine. I use several programs myself that are not supported anymore. Again, I appologize if I came across as harsh in that last post. Take care. Fonzie On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > I'm wandering why you are caring about how old the program is? why not > look at the features, check it out and see if it does what you need, > and then say it's too bad that the application is not supported > anymore if it doesn't have the features you want? I think Playpod > contains all rss features which are available. > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > On 28/04/2009, at 15.12, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> >> Ok, i can see your point. No need clogging up the hard disk with lots >> of unplayed podcasts. Too bad podplay won't be supported anymore and >> therefore will soon be obsolete, that is old, otherwise one would >> have >> taken a glance at it. >> /Krister >> >> >> 28 apr 2009 kl. 12.58 skrev Søren Jensen: >> >>> >>> I don't like the podcast feature in Itunes. I wanna stream most of >>> the >>> podcasts because I've subscribed to more than 50 feeds. Therefore I >>> don't want to download them before I'm able to play the podcasts. >>> I'll take a look on Netnewswire though. >>> Best regards >>> Søren Jensen >>> Mail & MSN: >>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>> Website: >>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>> >>> On 28/04/2009, at 11.55, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Itunes is a very good podcatcher and it's constantly being updated. >>>> I'm looking for rss apps, but what i've seen of Netnewswire, i >>>> think >>>> it's called it seems quite good. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> 27 apr 2009 kl. 22.10 skrev Søren Jensen: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, I'm not sure I know what you mean. >>>>> Yeah, Playpod is a old program and it's not going to be updated >>>>> anymore, but if you have found a better podcast and rss reader, >>>>> I'm >>>>> very interested to hear about it. >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>>> Website: >>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>>> >>>>> On 27/04/2009, at 19.09, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But wasn't Playpod deprecated? Why waste our energy on a program >>>>>> that >>>>>> is or soon will be obsolete? >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 27 apr 2009 kl. 14.55 skrev Søren Jensen: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Fonzie. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It doesn't seems as Vieanna is able to handle podcasts. If you >>>>>>> wanna >>>>>>> try a rss reader and a podcast application in one program, I >>>>>>> highly >>>>>>> recommend Playpod. This program is totally awesome. You can >>>>>>> configure >>>>>>> it to stream podcasts so you don't have to download them. You >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> turn >>>>>>> down the volume so you are able to work with other applications >>>>>>> while >>>>>>> listening to podcasts. >>>>>>> Check out this awesome application at: >>>>>>> http://www.iggsoftware.com/products.php >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>>>>> Website: >>>>>>> http://www.coolfort
Re: rss
Hi again Sere. One particular reason I liked Vienna is that it is supported, and updated. PlayPod itself isn't. Not a deal breaker of course, but just thought I would bring it out there. Take care. Fonzie On Apr 27, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > Hi Fonzie. > > It doesn't seems as Vieanna is able to handle podcasts. If you wanna > try a rss reader and a podcast application in one program, I highly > recommend Playpod. This program is totally awesome. You can configure > it to stream podcasts so you don't have to download them. You can turn > down the volume so you are able to work with other applications while > listening to podcasts. > Check out this awesome application at: > http://www.iggsoftware.com/products.php > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > On 27/04/2009, at 14.25, Fonzie wrote: > >> >> Hi Will, how are you doing? >> >> I hope everything is well. >> >> On the subject of RSS Readers, I find that having an application to >> manage and gather feeds is a lot better than mail, and or Safari for >> that matter. >> >> Vienna acts like a mail client, in that you can tab through areas >> such >> as the feeds table, and the actual article itself. It is really >> nice. >> >> The article area itself acts like an HTML area, so you will have to >> interact with it, should you want closer inspection of what your >> trying to read. If you want to try it out, here is the link. >> >> http://www.vienna-rss.org/vienna2.php >> >> Take care of yourself. >> >> Fonzie >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:23 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> >>> hi i love the rss features of mail as i gather one can use them to >>> read feeds of interest instead of keep going to the site of the >>> newspaper they wish to read, etc. >>> Although I suppose that if one subscribes to loads of RSS feeds in >>> mail then it will be harder to keep up. Do people find safari easier >>> to manage rss viewing or mail itself? >>> Will >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: rss
Hey there. You are correct. I don't really use podcast myself, so I just really use the RSS reader itself. Again, they are both good programs though, so either or is worth checking out. Just depends on what you are looking for. Fonzie On Apr 27, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > Hi Fonzie. > > It doesn't seems as Vieanna is able to handle podcasts. If you wanna > try a rss reader and a podcast application in one program, I highly > recommend Playpod. This program is totally awesome. You can configure > it to stream podcasts so you don't have to download them. You can turn > down the volume so you are able to work with other applications while > listening to podcasts. > Check out this awesome application at: > http://www.iggsoftware.com/products.php > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > On 27/04/2009, at 14.25, Fonzie wrote: > >> >> Hi Will, how are you doing? >> >> I hope everything is well. >> >> On the subject of RSS Readers, I find that having an application to >> manage and gather feeds is a lot better than mail, and or Safari for >> that matter. >> >> Vienna acts like a mail client, in that you can tab through areas >> such >> as the feeds table, and the actual article itself. It is really >> nice. >> >> The article area itself acts like an HTML area, so you will have to >> interact with it, should you want closer inspection of what your >> trying to read. If you want to try it out, here is the link. >> >> http://www.vienna-rss.org/vienna2.php >> >> Take care of yourself. >> >> Fonzie >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:23 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> >>> hi i love the rss features of mail as i gather one can use them to >>> read feeds of interest instead of keep going to the site of the >>> newspaper they wish to read, etc. >>> Although I suppose that if one subscribes to loads of RSS feeds in >>> mail then it will be harder to keep up. Do people find safari easier >>> to manage rss viewing or mail itself? >>> Will >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: rss
Hi Will, how are you doing? I hope everything is well. On the subject of RSS Readers, I find that having an application to manage and gather feeds is a lot better than mail, and or Safari for that matter. Vienna acts like a mail client, in that you can tab through areas such as the feeds table, and the actual article itself. It is really nice. The article area itself acts like an HTML area, so you will have to interact with it, should you want closer inspection of what your trying to read. If you want to try it out, here is the link. http://www.vienna-rss.org/vienna2.php Take care of yourself. Fonzie On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:23 AM, william lomas wrote: > >hi i love the rss features of mail as i gather one can use them to > read feeds of interest instead of keep going to the site of the > newspaper they wish to read, etc. > Although I suppose that if one subscribes to loads of RSS feeds in > mail then it will be harder to keep up. Do people find safari easier > to manage rss viewing or mail itself? > Will > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: introduction
Hey there Andrea. How are you doing? I hope your doing well. Welcome to the list. I hope you enjoy your stay. Please fill free to ask any questions from us, and people will chime in as they can. You do not need to buy anything for the mac at all. The only things you may want, and it is your preference, is accessories. These include braile displays, and so fourth. Again, that is you preference. VoiceOver comes built into the OS, and is immediately available for you to access upon using your new computer. I hope this helps. Fonzie On Apr 25, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > > Andrea, > you don't need to buy anything separate, well unless you want a > braille display and then you'd have to buy one of those. but as far as > using a mac with leopard, all you need is the computer. voiceover, > like it did in tiger, comes built into leopard. > peace and positivity > Jessi > follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > On 22-Apr-09, at 2:20 PM, Andrea and Zeta! wrote: > >> >> Hi there, thanks for the intro. I went to an apple shop today and I >> saw the >> leopard software in action. It's good, but I was told that I need to >> buy two >> other things for blind and partially sighted users. I don't know how >> true >> this is, as the newest mac in the shop apparently needs these two >> applications. I can't remember what they are, but maybe someone >> would have a >> better idea? >> take care love >> >> Andrea and Zeta! >> xxx >> Vale touched the hearts of everyone she met. She will live on >> forever! >> Check out her fundraising page! >> Please visit: >> www.justgiving.com/valiestar >> >> www.paws4guidedogs.co.uk >> >> Is a site run by guide dog owners in Northern Ireland. Take a look >> at the >> site and find out what we're up too! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ben King" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:24 AM >> Subject: Re: introduction >> >> >>> >>> Dear Andrea, >>> >>> You will love your Apple. >>> I have been very pleased with mine. and there are wonderful >>> podcasts >>> to listen to. The Screenlessswitchers is a great podcast as well as >>> Lioncourt.com. I hope this helps. >>> Blessings, >>> Ben King >>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Andrea, Zeta Vale and Trudy bell! >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi there Mark, wow thanks for that. I'm not sure whether to have a >>>> windows >>>> program running on the mac or not and if so what? >>>> I have 2 gig of ram on it and a 160 hard drive. I don't know >>>> therefore, if >>>> running vista would work that well. I really can't wait to get it. >>>> I did hear alex on the voice over speech today and it's quite >>>> clear. >>>> Easier >>>> than jaws to listen too and clearer in some ways, more human-like >>>> maybe the >>>> better way to describe it. >>>> >>>> I'll not be getting rid of my vista machine, but I can't wait to >>>> get >>>> this >>>> mac. I just can't wait to use it. I know the sound quality on it is >>>> brilliant. >>>> >>>> take care and I will definitely give you a shout when I get it. I >>>> think, I'm >>>> going to need a great deal of help. >>>> take care >>>> >>>> Andrea, Zeta Vale and Trudy! >>>> xxx >>>> Vale touched the hearts of everyone she met. She will live on >>>> forever! >>>> Check out her fundraising page! >>>> Please visit: >>>> www.justgiving.com/valiestar >>>> >>>> www.paws4guidedogs.co.uk >>>> >>>> Is a site run by guide dog owners in Northern Ireland. Take a look >>>> at the >>>> site and find out what we're up too! >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Mark Baxter" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 6:58 AM >>>> Subject: Re: introduction >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, Andrea: >>>>> >>>>> I was using a Mac back in the early 1990's with OutSpoken, which >>>>> was >>>>> not built in to the OS. I would say that Voiceover in the latest >>>>> version of Leopard is similar t
Re: introduction
HiAndrea, how are you doing? I hope all is going well. My name is Alfonzo, but everyone just calls me Fonzie. I switched to a mac in August, and learned quite fast. The mac itself is something you have to kind of learn as a entirely different OS. Windows knowledge will indeed help in generalized computer tasks, but as far as the screen reader itself, VoiceOver handles differently than that of JAWS and or Window Eyes. The OS itself is different as well, but you will get used to all of it as you just tamper with it all. I myself like learning, so I just mess with every OS I can lol. Please, fill free to ask anything. I along with the rest on the list will chime in when we can. Well, I hope your well. Off to play some Suikoden V I go. Take care. Fonzie On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:54 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > Andrea, > > I too had a Mac in the early 1990's. I got it in 1995, thugh I still > had sight then. It was a single unit with built-in display. It was > fifteen years old when I got it from a family friend and I still have > it and it still works. My sister uses it more than I do because there > is not much accessibility support in those old OS's. Maybe I should > try outspoken on it just for kicks. Anywho, then I lost my sight after > aquireing my Beige G3. The little sight I had left was enough to use > zoom on the thing because no one I knew at the time knew about > Outspoken. Then I got a Windows PC. After using XP for about four or > five years I gave up on it. When Tiger came out, I got a tiger G4 > Quick Silver running at 2GHZ and with 1.5 GB or RAM. Then while at > work, I got to play with the Beta of Leopard. Shortly after I got a > Pre-November 2007 Macbook the month before Leopard was released. I > also received a copy of Leopard when it was released. All this except > the PC was curtosy of the family friend who first introduced me to > computers. > > I love the Mac and can say that I have been completely Windows free > for just about two years. > > I hope you enjoy OS X as much as I do. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 18-Apr-09, at 12:20 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > >> >> ha! outspoken! that creepy voice saying :button" still haunts my >> dreams lol!! way back in the early 90s, back in the day when I was >> like eight, haha my school for some reason gave my family a mac? I >> think it was supposed to be for me but I remember my family used it a >> lot more than I did. I do remember using it though! I never >> independently learned how to use outspoken, but I remember my parents >> clicking on clarisworks for me and it saying "button," lol. I >> remember >> I learned to type on a mac too, cuz that was all they had my school. >> those old ones!! maybe that's why I can type so fast now? cuz I >> learned on a mac with all the right type? lol. I didn't see a pc >> til I >> was like 13 and then I learned windows, and swore to it! I was >> seriously the most anti-mac person ever until last march at CSUN when >> my eyes were opened and I returned to my mac roots lol! I can't >> believe it's been almost a year! and I have no desire to go back! >> lol. >> anyway, welcome Andrea!! you'll love it!! feel free to ask questions, >> that's what this list is for!! >> >> >> On 17-Apr-09, >> >> at 10:58 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, Andrea: >>> >>> I was using a Mac back in the early 1990's with OutSpoken, which was >>> not built in to the OS. I would say that Voiceover in the latest >>> version of Leopard is similar to but far superior to that. I just >>> switched from my XP machine in January, and have not gone back. I >>> also have Vista running on this Macbook as well, so can do anything >>> in >>> Windows I need to. >>> >>> I offer tutoring and support as well, so if you need me, give me a >>> shout. I know you'll have a lot of fun with it, especially if >>> you're >>> the type that thinks like a musician--it's built in that intuitive, >>> fuzzy logic sort o way. >>> >>> >>> Mark BurningHawk >>> >>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> My home page: >>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Huge Problem with Keys
Hi Tiffany. I hope your doing well. Sorry to hear about your keys. The best thing to do would probably be to call Apple, or head into your local store, and have it checked out. As far as keys go. I take it the keys are for one license machine? In any case, you should be fine. With my experience, I wanted to see the installation of Leopard myself, so I wiped my mac clean with a new install, and just simply reinstalled the programs I had licensed, such as Audio HiJack, and Amadeus Pro, and I was on my way to using my computer again. I do not think you will have any problems with registering your products again. The serial you will be using for your copy of leopard is the same, so there should not be any trouble. Unless, your serials are different, than I suppose you could run into trouble. I do not believe so though. Just setup your mac as you did before, with the credentials you gave before, if you would feel safer. In any case, just make sure you have your information regarding the products you want to register. The only one I am unsure of is InfoVox IVox. I am sure someone will jump in about that when they can. If it is just a general serial, then you should be fine. I hope this helps. Fonzie On Apr 3, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Tiffany D wrote: > > As some of you might remember the right command key on my Macbook > stopped working several months ago. Stupid me, I never got it fixed > and I was still under warrentee. Well, now the a, q, z, 1 and delete > keys no longer work. Thank The Gods, I was able to save my important > work etc to my external hard disk before that stopped being > recognised. I restarted several times and the situation is still the > same. Needless to say, I'm writing this with the XP machine. > Tomorrow, I'm gonna reinstall Leopard and hope that fixes the problem. > I also hope that the cd rom drive and the eject button will work or > I'll be stuck in the middle of an install and have no way to finish > it. Ihave no idea how much Apple would charge to fix such a thing. > To make matters worse, I have my registered copy of the Dimitris voice > for InfoVox IVox and also a program called TapeDeck on there. So what > will happen to my licenses? Can I write to the companies and explain > my situation? I don't want to reinstall these things and have the > registration get sent to them again and then get in trouble cause they > think I have it on two machines. Any help, advice or shared > experiences would be appreciated. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem with IJournal
Hey there Tiffany and others. Tiffany, you said in a couple of posts back, that when deleting iJournal, you reinstalled it, and it still remembered the user name and information you had oringally stored. Try deleting the information from the following locations, and then reinstall it. If you have already done so, I apologize for this in advance. Deletion of Components Delete the aplication from the applications folder. Next, go to your Macintosh HD from finder and go to the following areas. Within this folder, head over to the library folder. Delete anything related to iJournal from the following locations. Application Support, Caches, Preference Panes, Preferences, and Receipts, should there be anything in that folder too. If there is a iJournal folder ithin this directory, delete it as well. Afterwards, go back one directory, and go to your users folder. Select your user within that folder, and go to library here. Once in library, go to the folders I mentioned above, with the exception of receipts, since it is not in that particular location. Delete anything relate to iJournal within these folders, as well as any file or folder related to iJournal if there is one within the user you slected. lastly, to get rid of your information, do the following. Within the finder window, press Command + Shift + U to go to your Utilities folder automatically. Here, go to Key Chain Access. After your in Key Chain Access, do the following. Press tab, and you will hear a table, just use your arrow keys, and make sure you on Ligin. Tab over and you will hear catagories, which is another table. Here, just use your arrows, and get to passwords. Next, tab over and you will hear show and hide all key chains. Tab over again, and you will hear VO announce table. Within this table, just use your arrows once again, and look for anything related to iJournal. These are all the passwrds you have stored in your mac, so take note of this area in case you want to delete them again. Use your context menu once you find the password you want to delete, and choose delete. Just make sure you delete any item related to iJournal, or the particular journal you are deleting information from, should it be there. Afterwards, you can quit out of Key Cahin Access, close out whatever windows you may have open, and within finder, go to Secure Emtpy Trash. Reinstall iJournal, and see if this fixes. Again, if you have tried all this already, then I apologize. Please take care. Fonzie On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: > > hmmm. weird. I have no clue, then!!! > On 30-Mar-09, at 11:41 PM, Tiffany D wrote: > >> >> Thank Hermes! I really didn't want to have to deal with a virus. I >> downloaded and reinstalled IJournal after deleting it's components >> etc >> and it still did the same thing. >> >> On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>> >>> I'm sure you don't, there are very few viruses for mac. I don't have >>> anti virus software either and to be honest I'm not really that >>> concerned about it. maybe that's naive of me, but it seems viruses >>> are >>> something windows users have to deal with more. your iJournal is >>> probably just acting up for whatever reason. have you tried >>> downloading a new DMG file? maybe the one you have is somehow >>> corrupt? >>> On 30-Mar-09, at 11:13 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I just hope I don't have a virus or something cause I have no >>>> antivirus software and don't know what's accessible. >>>> >>>> On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> wow. I've never seen a program crash to the point where you >>>>> couldn't >>>>> even use force quit!!! strange!!! mars edit is a good blogging >>>>> program >>>>> if you're looking for an alternative, I used to use that before >>>>> iJournal. >>>>> On 30-Mar-09, at 10:33 PM, Tiffany D wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I can't even use force quit on IJournal. It just locks up >>>>>> and >>>>>> says busy and I can't even get into the menus from there. I've >>>>>> always >>>>>> thought of it as a stable program too until a few days ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31/03/2009, Jessi Rathwell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> weird. I haven't had any problems with iJournal. the only >>>>>>> times I >>>>>>> have >>>&
Re: new mac
Hey there Wendy, I hope you are doing well. Welcome to the list, and I hope you will enjoy your new mac. I purchased my mac back in August of last year, and I really enjoy it. Please fill free to ask whatever questions you may have, I am sure many of us will chime in, as well as I, to help out. As for bible software, I cannot help in that regard, but I know you can find pretty much a lot of bible related material on the web. I actually read quite a bit of the bible myself, when I took world literature that is. If you need help finding something, I may be able to help. Take care. Fonzie On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Brent Harding wrote: > That's a great guide. Also, I listened to all your podcasts on BCT. > I'm not sure if anyone mentions how drag and drop works. I know, > like Windows, one doesn't need it for a lot, but I was listening to > a podcast about automater, well it was a video, but the guy > described things pretty well audibly, and for variables, you need to > drag and drop them where you want them. I don't know if this is > necessary to have to drag and drop as sighted people tend to do so > because it's easiest for them, but that would be another thing to > get in to. I think it's the best access we ever had out of the box > and can only get better. > > - Original Message - > From: Mike Arrigo > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: new mac > > Hi, welcome to the list, I'm sure you will enjoy your mac. The first > thing I would probably read is the voice over user's guide, that > should get you started. > - Original Message - > From: Wendy > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:36 PM > Subject: new mac > > Hi I've just b ought a mac and need help in learning how to use. > i've used windows for years but been told using the mac is easy. I > have got a list of short cut keys and so i've been just looking and > getting the feel of the mac and the sound of the voice-over. and > yes, i do know how to turn it on and off lol which is a start. > > From Wendy. > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Hey
Hey Jacob, how are you doing? A friend of mine is having an issue with airport. Her aiport utility is not working properly.. Her network seems to be not acting correctly. Her airport is not sensing any networks, and it will take a little while to search for networks itself. When airport does work it will say airport has full bars, but Safari itself will not load any pages. When it loads pages however, it will takea minute or too. Keep in mind, the laptop is directly near the router when trying to connect. Connecting via a lan works fine though. Any ideas of what it could be? I believe the card is damaged. Let me know what you think. Fonzie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Sorry about that
Sorry about that guys. I accidently hit reply on the wrong email, and meant to delete the message and make a new one. That was addressed to a single person, but if anyone has any help, please let me know. Sorry again, the subject does not reflect what I spoke about, and I appologize for causing any trouble. Thanks. Fonzie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The new iTunes, accessibility issues?
Hello all. I see that I was using the wrong version of iTunes, when I had reported about the issue being sparse. I have updated to the new iTunes, and I can indeed confirm that tabbing through controls doesn't work properly. VO navigational keys work fine though, so it is an alternative if you are not using tabs. I suppose, a bug is a bug though, and tab did previously work in the former versions of iTunes. Turning off VO is probably not the best solution here. For now, the best solution is to just use VO navigational keys as others have said. I am sure if people report it as a bug, Apple will work on it in the next release. Take care. Fonzie On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > > Well said, kind of like some get bugs and some don't such as a while > back with Safari 4 and mail. Some of us had problems with it and > others didn't. Guess it is happening for some with I-Tunes now, but > for others of us not, and it sounds like there are varying degrees of > the problem. Unfortunately though, I haven't had this problem come > up yet with I-Tunes, or should I say fortunately I haven't had it > happen, and I'll say the word "yet" as well, Murphy's law etc, > *lol.* Maybe the solution will happen soon, sounds like there's > quite a few both having the problems and a few who aren't trying to > have the problem but not yet. > > 73. > > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: > >> >> True you can indeed use VO keys to do your work until this is fixed, >> but at the end of the day a bug is a bug is it not, it's still worth >> reporting. One of the things I like about OS X is that there's >> always >> more than one way to skin a cat, and this is one way that eventually >> needs to work. >> >> While I'm hear, Jacob, have you tried turning off genius to see if >> that affects anything? >> >> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman >> wrote: >>> >>> so they missed again, folks, relax, you can use the vo keys to do >>> your >>> work. >>> >>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:18 AM, william lomas wrote: >>> >>> >>> well lol i keep hearing new accessibility issues are improved but >>> what >>> about that damn downloads window? especially if buyin or renting a >>> movie, i can't see the progress? >>> >>> On 12 Mar 2009, at 05:24, Scott Rutkowski wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> HI David. >>>> >>>> OK basically i've tried with different views such as grid view text >>>> view >>>> being focused on different parts of the source list and when i tab >>>> past the >>>> search field you can't tab to the songs table and other then this >>>> the new >>>> iTunes is fine. >>>> >>>> still trying to work out what the iTunes dj is for so if anyone >>>> knows how it >>>> works or can shed some light on it let us all know. >>>> >>>> I'm sure the tab key is broken in iTunes because even turning off >>>> cursor >>>> tracking and looking through the view menu makes no difference. >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "David Poehlman" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:56 PM >>>> Subject: Re: The new iTunes, accessibility issues? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> sorry, we need more. if I do as you describe, I get search, >>>>> sources >>>>> and songs as I tab through. You might try turning the browser on, >>>>> setting your view to grid, any number of things to see if you can >>>>> lick >>>>> this. what source is selected when you see this issue? >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone >>>>> I wanted to ask this here before I write to Apple, in case it's >>>>> something odd about my setup. Along with the accessibility >>>>> improvements in iTunes 8.1 I'm seeing some very serious issues. >>>>> Chief >>>>> among them is that, while tabbing still moves through controls >>>>> properly, Voiceover will not stay in sync while tabbing. I can >>>>> only >>>>> use the VO cursor to get around and, as I use tab to quickly jump >>>>> from >>
Re: The new iTunes, accessibility issues?
Hey there Jacob, I hope all is going well. I am looking at the issue you were mentioning, and here is what I get while tabbing. I assume, by controls, you mean the search edit box, the source table, the song table, and the minor things you can tab through, should you have them appearing on iTunes. Upon pressing tab, I only get it silent after I hit tab once VO announces the search field. So, once you hit tab after it says search, which is the edit box, VO becomes silent. Now, if you tab one more time, VO will come back, announcing the next area. Upon tabbing once more, and continuously onward, VO has no problems. Let me know if this is what you were looking for. If not, feel free to e-mail me off list, and I can help out with what I am able. Take care. Fonzie On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I wanted to ask this here before I write to Apple, in case it's > something odd about my setup. Along with the accessibility > improvements in iTunes 8.1 I'm seeing some very serious issues. Chief > among them is that, while tabbing still moves through controls > properly, Voiceover will not stay in sync while tabbing. I can only > use the VO cursor to get around and, as I use tab to quickly jump from > the song list to the media browser, for me this is a serious issue. > Before I report this as a problem to Apple, can anyone here duplicate > it? Simply go into iTunes and start tabbing around, if Voiceover > doesn't announce the controls you're tabbing to after the first one, > you've duplicated it. I don't want to report a bug if it's something > on my system only, as that would more than likely mean I've got > another issue. > > Thanks, and sorry for cross-posting. > > > >The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a > thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot > possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to > get at or repair. >--Douglas Adams > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IWork and ILife
I totally agree here. I myself report what I find here and there to apple. At times I haven't gotten a response from apple, but most of the time, I have received feedback regarding what I have found. Best for individual people to provide their feedback and support. This wil show developes such as apple interested in accessibility itself, and developers will get a bigger push from more people, than just one person alone. Take care all. Fonzie On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:08 AM, A-Pro Studio wrote: > > Hi Krister, > > my point was that we all have the ability to report what we find as > soon as we find it, and that each "voice" will count more than a > single report. Both for Apple and other developers as well. The > first method do not lock out the other one, and by reporting issues > yourself, you are also taking action, instead of waiting for someone > else to do just that. If you write to a developer, they might ask > you to submit a report, but that will not mean they will give those > issues priority. Apple have a stronger commitment to accessibility > than most others, so please do not get me wrong here, I was just > speaking in generic terms > > > > Just a suggestion, nothing else ;-) > > Take care, > John André > > > > > > > > On 6. mars. 2009, at 14.15, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> >> Yes, but wouldn't it be better if one person wrote to Apple, but that >> everyone contributed with what they felt needed improving? I dunno, i >> just sorta think aloud here. >> /Krister >> >> >> 6 mar 2009 kl. 14.07 skrev A-Pro Studio: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Such reports are possible for each and everyone to give Apple for >>> every Apple product to accessibil...@apple.com - and those of us who >>> are involved in ADC or other portals aimed at developing software >>> for >>> Mac, both inside and outside of Apple, should use their ability to >>> report VO issues. Also, in each Apple software, there is a "Provide >>> feedback" menu item in the applications own menu, that takes you >>> to a >>> feedback page. I have posted a lot of such issues, and by not >>> trusting >>> such issues should be reported by someone else, but instead post >>> your >>> own found issues, Apple and other developers will get the feedback >>> needed. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> John André >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6. mars. 2009, at 12.11, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> And ALex, please do share the report. We all stand to benefit and >>>> anything we can provide or the more we share and so forth si going >>>> to >>>> help us and APple. Apple has the opportunity to make iWorks as >>>> accessible and I believe the success of this application will lead >>>> to >>>> accessibility of other apps. >>>> On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Cara et al: >>>>> >>>>> I was merely continueing the thread on whether ILife and IWork >>>>> were >>>>> accessible. So, in stating what I was doing, I hoped to convey >>>>> that >>>>> Apple is working with me to rectify the issues in ILife 09. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5-Mar-09, at 6:50 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex, are you asking the list something here?… I'm not sure what >>>>>> you're wanting to post. >>>>>> >>>>>> This sounds interesting, care to share with the rest of the >>>>>> class? >>>>>> … >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry if I'm being daft,but I'm really not >>>>>> understanding >>>>>> if you're wanting to share something here, or ask for people's >>>>>> input. >>>>>> >>>>>> If ya wouldn't mind, please do be a bit less vague when you can, >>>>>> K? >>>>>> … It really would help me for one, in understanding what you're >>>>>> talking about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much and have an awesome evening!… >>>>>> >>>>>> Smiles, >>>>
Re: IWork and ILife
hello there, I hope all is well. iWork9 is very much accessible. There are a few qwerks here and there, espeically with Pages, and Numbers. It is up to you if you will mind them or not. Best thing to do though is give iWorks09 a shot. Apple has a trial version up, and you will be able to give it a go and see how you like it. Open Office is accessible to a degree, but I find iWork to be more feasable. Take care. Fonzie On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Greg Kearney wrote: > > I have tried iWeb, part of iLife, and found it to be accessible. > Keynote, Numbers and Pages (iWork) are all accessible. You can > download a trial copy of iWork if you want. > > Greg Kearney > 535 S. Jackson St. > Casper, Wyoming 82601 > 307-224-4022 > gkear...@gmail.com > > > > On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:34 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> >> many find iwork quite accessible but some like using open office >> which >> is free. I've not seen much on ilife. >> >> On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Dean Adams wrote: >> >> Hey All, >>Before golng and buying either Iwork or Ilife can someone let >> me know how accessable IWork and ILife is with VO as I don't wont the >> go out and buy either if they are not Vo accessable. >> Regards Dean >> !!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to >> short to be a grumble bum !!! >> >> • Email: d...@internode.on.net >> • Phone: 0243206031 >> • Skype: deanadams9 >> • Mobile: 0428133758 >> >> >> >> >>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Almost got yahoo, got a problem
Hey there, how goes it? I hope all i well. Hmm, perhaps VO has lost focus on where your supposed to be? Try the following. Application Chooser Menu See what is on there. You heard, Finder has new window, System has new window, correct? Well, those will appear in your application chooser menu, of which you can arrow up and down. To expand that item, just hit your right arrow, and a new menu will pop up, upon which, arrowing up and down, will giv eyou what is there. See what you find under that area. Pay close attention to what is under the system area, as that is wher eyou will most likely want to be going. Also, if you try holding Command, and then hitting tab, while still holding command, you can cycle through the programs openned See if you find yahoo anywhere, and if so, let go once found, and see if you can continue using VO from there on. Report back what you find. Take care Fonzie. On Feb 28, 2009, at 5:20 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > Hi all. Through your help, I've gotten much closer. I'm gonna describe > what I'm running in to. > > I go to doc. I arrow to downloads. I arrow and bring up the menu and > and managed to open downloads. I do command O to open yahoo. It brings > up the license agreement. I select I agree. Then it says, system has > new window. Finder has new window. And the nothing. No keys I hit do > anything. It just beeps at me. I tried VO space, command O, shift > arrow, just the arrows. Enter, tab. It all just beeps. I give up and > am able to bring up spotlight to get back to Safari. > > What am I doing? > > Thanks, > Randi > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
