Re: Just had my hands on an apple watch today
PeteSorry if I missed this in your email, but how did voiceover work with it?? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just wanted to tell you guys what my first impression of an apple watch, as a design cue, on the instant the apple sales girl handed it to me. It almost felt as though she was unsure whether to hand it over after talking market stuff about it, and after a few tos and fros, I had the suspicion she had the same idea. It’s thick. Imagine a large toffee. with a button and a digital crown on the side. I was first handed the links bracelet model. And the truth is, I will wait for a way slimmer version. No matter the functionalities of this thing. The demo it gave, as we couldn’t test it out there and then, gave some impressions on the haptic. Sure, it gives you a very discreet tick on the wrist. Wow. Really? Amazing technology. Feel the sarcasm. But what still is stamped with hot iron in my mind is not this tick, but how ugly it felt in my hand with its thickness. Imagine thick enough so that you have a space on the sides of your wrist with both links and sports bands. You can fit a cigarette on either side. You just can’t find a position that leaves the bracelet flat over your wrist all around. Even that fancy metal mesh bracelet had a space. What struck me was that I when I said “This thing is rather thick”, the sales girl replied with a “Yeah, I was really surprised too”. I think this must have been a deal breaker for a lot of people going in there to see it. I couldn’t hear any oos or aahs anywhere. Checking both sizes of this thing, there’s not much difference and both just feel like fat unattractive toffees that come with diferent bands which don’t add anything to the watch culture. Having had watches before in my time, I much preffer having nothing on my wrist than this hunk of technology that seems to have a fatal bullimic inclination due to battery restrictions. The second shocker for me was that this little piece of thing which is useless without an iphone actually costs more than an iphone 6 here in Australia. Not only is it a second deal breaker, it’s a total insult to australian consumers. From 500 something mentioned during the presentation to over 1600 aus dollars here, with 200 extra for the space black version. It’s a complete ripoff. And I weigh my words. See why below: 1-It does nothing without pairing it with an iphone 5 or more. It’s totally useless when your phone dies, if it doesn’t die before it. 2-The fancy shmancy terms used like digital crown are a gimmick beyond the slickest of car salespersons. I have less respect for Jimmy Ive now. It’s just a freaking rotating button which you can also push. Man this is the future (sarcasm again) 3-You have to charge it daily, along with the phone. If you have a guide dogm another pet, uni, etc the list goes on, why consider an extra daily chore like this for not much? 4-To make it cost more than an iphone, which in all technological, functional and complexity terms has more to give than a watch is a blatant disrespect of customers as well as an inherent belief from these people that once hooked, a stupid apple customer will buy anything that comes out just from the hype driven events. 5-As blind phone users, I believe This is useless anyway. let me develop below. I jack my phone with headphones when I walk around, either to tell siri to open ariadne gps which gives me directions, or call this or do that. I have the handy mic button and siri works for simple tasks like this. An apple watch won’t bring anything better to my experience in the active set. Having the phone talk to me while i walk is the worst geek nerd interpretation nightmare I could think of, and I would have to lean the hand toward my ear anyway because of background noise, and I won’t make myself look like a sick puppy with a flebo on my wrist with earbuds. And you need to pull your arm up to do anything to it. Another thing the sales girl told me which just completely killed it, in a very comical way, was that apple advised that they wanted watch users not to use the watch over 30 seconds at a time, as they thought it was the benchmark limit at which point your arm gets tired. Talk about computer human interaction research (another sarcasm). This was one other of their excuses for battery time that basically sucked shit (excuse my french) and providing weird marketing justifications to still try and make the watch appealing. However, by that time, the sales girl knew she smelled better than this thing, than the watch, that I was not sold on the design factor (as a blind user and former 3D modeler), I really didn’t find this good. at all. My impression was that it would be a longer rectangular shape, slimmer along the arm and longer over the wrist, slightly
Re: So Voice Over is on the Apple Watch.
Thanks. Where does one go to find more information on this? Pete Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote: This message has no content. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFBReader pre-purchase question
Works great for the 4s also. Pete Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Feliciano Godoy theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote: Works great on my iPhone 5. Regards, Feliciano For tech tips and updates Like my Facebook page: www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Phil, I was reluctant to buy KNFB Reader because I’ve had a lot of success with both Prizmo and TextGrabber. But when KNFB Reader was available with a 25% reduction around Christmas, I treated myself to it and was amazed at how easy it is to use, and how accurate it is. I, too, have an iPhone 5, so I can assure you it works fine with that. Cheers, Anne On 2 Mar 2015, at 17:25, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: After listening to Mike Hanson’s podcast on KNFBReader, I’m about to take the $100 plunge (ouch!). I’ve read the AppleVis forum and blog, and listened to podcasts, and now I’m asking for the experience of listers. I have a iPhone 5 (not 5S), running the latest IOS 8.x. How is the app performing on this platform? $100 is a lot for an iPhone app and I just want to make sure I’m not going to get hosed. I use ABBYY FineReaderPro, but having a good scanning option on the iPhone would be a real plus especially since it can do some computer screen scanning as well. All Candid opinions welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
No problem. Your question makes perfect sense. You do not need to be perfect to get great results! I have not used the guidance at the program offers but holding the phone elbow length away from the paper gave great results unfortunately I cannot compare it to the old app. Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Pete You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was? Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Donna, I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. Good luck with your decision Lisette On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier? Thanks, Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It just works. I'm glad I bought it. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know. Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? Gary On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: $100? Ouch. On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 743-8244 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Apparently the app is $100. CB Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant
Re: an ibooks question
Can you go to the iBooks store in your purchase list and simply download them again? Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within the Trash and see if there is the Put Back option. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way. I see the numbered folders that contain each of the books. To what folder do I need to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks? thank you, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
Good evening Donna, I too have migrated to IOs 8 but I am not having any issues with iBooks. All of my purchased books are there along with my downloaded ones and are all legible Pete Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks? I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks. Now, I can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased Tab, but that's all I can see. When I switch to my books, the list is empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded. It doesn't matter whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing. I had my sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not showing up on the screen at all. Anyone else had this issue? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Accessible Crossword Puzzles
Thank you Ann, do you know if there's a crossword program available for the iPhone? Pete Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:50 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Harry, I like to do the Guardian cryptic crossword. There is also a quick crossword available. They are available Monday through Friday. The Saturday cryptic crossword has to be paid for as it is a prize crossword. The link below takes you to the page where you choose which crossword you want. http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords On this page, I go to heading level 2 Latest Cryptic crossword and click on Standard Version. On the next page, set navigation to Groups as it works better for crosswords and go to heading level 4, Across. Below this is a table of the across clues, each with its number and the number of letters in the solution. To jump to the grid, interact with the clue, bring the mouse and press VO-Space. You navigate the grid just using the arrow keys. The Down clues are under another level 4 heading which is to the right of the Across clues. I set a hotspot on the second element of the clue, the text, so that I can use the VO-Cmd-number to read the clue again while I'm exploring the grid to see whether I already have letters for that clue, It also helps for jumping back to the table of clues. I reuse the same hotspot all the way through the crossword. To the left of the level 4 headings is a toolbar containing the buttons Save, Revert to saved, Clear, Check, Check all, Anagram, Cheat, and Solution. All these functions are accessible. When entering a solution, just type and the letters will go into the correct squares. I'm sure there must be other accessible online crosswords, but the Guardian has been my favourite crossword for decades and I was delighted when I found its online version to be accessible. Cheers, Anne On 21 Nov 2012, at 23:18, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone know of accessible crossword puzzles or any tips for accessing regular crossword puzzles online? I have always wanted to play crosswords, but just assumed they were far too visual to be of any use. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
I tunes 4S match issue
Good morning all, i have subscribed to Itunes match and can no longer sink play lists. does anyone know how to sink the playlists to the phone? Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Jim, hands down the 4S. the processing power is much better. if your on ATT and are in a city, you can get 4G data speeds. for example, my 4S is faster on ATT then on my home network. i live in DC. R, Pete Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Color Identifier for the iPhone 4S
Good afternoon, I have not had positive results with this program. for example, i have two colors of sox, black white. it can't identify them. it comes up with brown almost every time. i have followed their instructions for using white beside the item being scanned. tells me that a white towel is also brown. it has been used in a very well lit room. i hope that others are finding this AP worth the $.99. i Pete On Feb 18, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mike, The best color identifier I've found for the iPhone is aidColors. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:46, Michael Busboom wrote: Greetings, Since acquiring my iPhone 4S a little over a week ago, I have been downloading Apps with abandon and thoroughly enjoying the experience of using them. Recently, I discovered an App called Color Detector. It is a self-voicing App, so you don't even need VoiceOver. However, the App's performance is extremely disappointing. All it ever says when I point the camera is Navy Blue. Thinking that I was doing something wrong, I asked my sighted daughter to give the program a try, and her results weren't any better. So, I was wondering if anyone knew of a color detection App that worked well with VoiceOver. My best to all of you, and thanks so much for all of the help you have been giving me recently! Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
this feature is still available. three things to try: 1 with the phone away from your face turn the volume up. often the speaker phone volume gets turned down. 2 wave a finger over the slot for the ear peace. occasionally something blocks the sensor. 3 reboot the phone. could be some sort of malfunction with code some where in the os. Good luck. Pete On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jessica wrote: Is this just supposed to automatically supposed to do this by default any time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done with it? Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. - Original Message - From: Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: speaker on iPhone Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: Is there a hot key/shortcut key combo to turn screen curtain on and off?
good evening, three finger tripple tap on the track pad does the same thing. Pete On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi! Unless you have your f1 f2 and so on set to standard you'll have to add the fn key to that stroke! hth Colin On 19 Oct 2011, at 17:05, Dan wrote: Hello, It's VO Shift F11. HTH Dan On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Christina wrote: Greetings, I am using Snow Leopard. It seems at one time I learned how to turn screen curtain on and off on my macbook. However, I can't seem to find that option nor can I find a shortcut key combination to toggle that. Thanks so very much, Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OS X Lion
Scott, what are your thoughts on SSD VS conventional hard drives? Are they worth the price increase. Thanks, Pete Feb 25, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Scott Granados wrote: SSD is still pretty expensive. They have a 500 GB Mac SSD drive though for the laptops. (might even have a larger by now) The most SSD I've ever seen was the 4.5 petabytes of online SSD storage at Dream Works. On Feb 25, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: You will be waiting a hell of a long time. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I would but they don't come in 500 gb sizes yet. well they probably do but I have to probably give them a whole lot of money right now. I'll wait until the ssd drives come down to the ones we use now in terms of price. lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: If your experiencing slow writes, get an SSD. If your utilising all of your 4GB then perhaps an upgrade is in order, but SSD's decrease bootup time and the time it takes to open apps amongst other things. On 25/02/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I might bun my next laptop up to 8 but tha'ts just me. Iwant the fasted thing inteh universe, Ok not really but I'm not happy wiht 4 gigs. My mac still slows down when saving a 4 hour long file lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Lets be honest though, it's not like ram is expencive unless your looking for ddr which you won't be. Even on sl, you should see a difference if you bump it up to 2 or 4GB. On 25/02/2011, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: i know On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: If it is, you're screwed. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i hope that it isn't over 1 gb On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements are. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To
Re: Mac OS X Lion
$1200. for the 512 SSD. Pete On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I would but they don't come in 500 gb sizes yet. well they probably do but I have to probably give them a whole lot of money right now. I'll wait until the ssd drives come down to the ones we use now in terms of price. lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: If your experiencing slow writes, get an SSD. If your utilising all of your 4GB then perhaps an upgrade is in order, but SSD's decrease bootup time and the time it takes to open apps amongst other things. On 25/02/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I might bun my next laptop up to 8 but tha'ts just me. Iwant the fasted thing inteh universe, Ok not really but I'm not happy wiht 4 gigs. My mac still slows down when saving a 4 hour long file lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Lets be honest though, it's not like ram is expencive unless your looking for ddr which you won't be. Even on sl, you should see a difference if you bump it up to 2 or 4GB. On 25/02/2011, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: i know On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: If it is, you're screwed. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i hope that it isn't over 1 gb On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements are. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this
hot key for time
Good evening all, i seam to have forgotten the hot key for checking the time. Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot key for time
thank you Sir. On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: Hi, you have to have the keyboard commander activated with vo shift k. then, you have to set a key to use this commands, the default is one of the option keys. I have my right option key that I don't use as much, but you can set any other modifier key if you want. The time command is that modifier key, in my case right option key plus the letter t. Rafaela Freundt E-mail/MSN: rafafreu...@gmail.com Skype: rafafreundt El 06/12/2010, a las 22:01, peter apgar escribió: Good evening all, i seam to have forgotten the hot key for checking the time. Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: watching TV on my Mac preferably live
is there a wireless way to do this? Pete On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote: You can use EyeTV. It is pretty accessible. It connects to your Mac through USB and then into your cable. Jeff On 2010-11-27, at 9:12 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Is there a way to watch TV on my Mac, preferably live TV? If so, how can this be done? Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Free Mac 10.6 tutorial
Thanks. would you send it to me. sounds like a great switcher document. Thanks, PeteOn Nov 27, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Alfredo wrote: Back then on June I got a Mac Laptop and created a tutorial, about 55 pages and have turn it into a pdf file anyone can request from me. If anyone is interested in the tutorial, which is designed for new Mac OS 10.6 with Voice Over users, feel free to email me. Sincerely, Alfredo Holguin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vo muted. How to unmute
Three finger double tap on the touch pad. Pete On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Title says it all How do I unmute Thanks ScottSent from my iPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
problems with safari google
Good day, I have been able to use google until this morning. After editing one's search criteria VO comes back with an empty window. Has something changed so that google is no longer accessible? Thanks in advance. Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problems with safari google
I have tried to follow these instructions. However VO restarts every time i try to navigate. i guess i will need to load WEB KIT. Thanks to everyone for there responses. Pete On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: I'm not having any problems at all with Safari and Google. I press Command-Option-f to get to the Google search field, enter my terms and press Return. When I hear the page load, I press VO-Command-l 3 times to get to the first result. I have web navigation set to Groups mode. I do this endless times throughout the day and have never had a problem. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Weird Safari issue/voiceover restarting
Thank you. to know that i am not imagining these issues and that others can confirm them makes me feel better. thanks again, Pete On Aug 23, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Well I think my advice was not very good at all. I only gave you bad news but sometimes such is life eh? Good luck with your safari bug and try webkit maybe. http://webkit.org. I'm actually thinking of adding a mac section to my sight when I get the time. Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, carlene knight wrote: Thanks. Much appreciated. On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it should not have anything to do with your cd, I hope? Safari is known as of now for these bugs. I myself have tried a reinstall with no success. Glad I did it but still no success. Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:24 PM, carlene knight wrote: Hi: I wripped a CD of mine for my own use with a bad track and now I can't use Safari without VO restarting every time I try to navigate. We are using Spaces, but have been for quite some time with no problems. Does anybody know if this problem could be connected with the CD? Could a Mac be prey to another Media Max attack? It was a commercial CD. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: the apple user?
I would have to agree. Mac's spread sheath software doesn't hold a candle to excel. I have problems similar to ones previously listed in this thread with searches.As for formulas I have had issues with complex reference formulas. I will also note that many of my problems with the Mac are a result of not being able to spend enough time with the different programs. My job requires complex tasks with excel and those are often transferable to my personal life with budgeting payment calculations ect. The largest hurdle to using the Mac is weather or not you can incorporate it to your employment. If this is the case there is not a better system out there. If your required to operate windows and many of the MS programs the transition can be a killer. Bring on MS office in Coco. Sorry for the rant. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:21 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple user? Buddy: yes, I did try tables, and, yes, it will read the contents of a cell, however, I had 1 heck of a time with it reading formulas, the type of column I was in etc. Also, I could find no easy way to have it read the row and column at the same time. yes, it's somewhat usable in a pinch. However, unfortunately, nothing like jaws and Excel. I wish it was different, and, it could be that I am not knowledgeable enough to get it going as well as I should. If you have suggestions, I am listening with vary open ears, grins! On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Have you tried tables? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Dan Roy wrote: I love my Mac and would never go back to using windows as my main machine. However,the point about spreadsheets is, unfortunately, a good 1. I am forced to use windows for spreadsheet work, for now anyway! On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: good morning Denise, I would agree with the others who have replied to this thread stating that the Mac can be used as a productivity tool. I am a University professor (in the American sense of that word rather than the Uk/Irish meaning) which means I must use my mac to write papers, grade student exams and to carry out other functions. However, I have not totally abandoned my Dell. While the word processor in iWork 09 is accessible, I don't like either the Numbers spreadsheet application or indeed the access provided by VO. It's just an opinion, and no doubt the zealots on this list will vehemently disagree, but I still believe that the browsing of spreadsheets using Jaws is unparallelled. Vo lacks the kinds of semantic access to this kind of data that Jaws/Excel provide. I would particularly agree with the comment which said preview is a lovely PDF reader, however it has given me problems when used in full-screen mode. Cheers Dónal On 21 Apr 2010, at 01:23, denise avant wrote: Hi, Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to write briefs, with case citations. I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. So thanks. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the apple user? Hello, As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I can helpfully answer your questions. Forgive the length of this email. First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other screen readers can you say that about? Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for windows and run office without a hitch. There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to
Re: using facebook with safari
sorry the norm around here is the mobile. Pete On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni wrote: Hello all, I'm new to the list and new to using Mac. I just got my mac mini two weeks ago and so far I'm really enjoying it. One thing I'd like to know is if any of you use the regular facebook site with safari and voiceover successfully? I'm having trouble locating edit boxes on the site. For example, updating status messages, writing on people's walls, etc. Of course I can do this by accessing the mobile site but the mobile site is not as powerful as the full site and I'd like to use the full site if possible. If any of you have any tricks or tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks. Ronit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vo scripts fore garage band?
who do you think you are? i will state that Slau did a wonderful job. so drop it! If your hear to pick fights take a hike and save us the time of reading your garbage. for the rest of the list my apologies for my clutter. Pete. On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Carolyn wrote: Ok, Slau, point taken. However, since you've moderated a list, you might understand the pointlessness of one word questions in response to someone's quiery. Besides, this is a mac list, and one would think information should be exchanged willingly re anything to do with mac and accessibility. I guess I can see why you don't moderate this list anymore. Have a great day. Carolyn ch:) - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: Re: vo scripts fore garage band? Hi Carolyn, Hmm, where do I start? First of all, I hardly think my quizzical response is much of a contributor to the pointless traffic on the list. As a former moderator of this list, I know all too well about pointless traffic. What I feel troubles the list more is traffic that is really meant for a different list like, say, how to run Windows and JAWS on a Mac. Second, if the point of your posting to your objection to my laconic response was to direct it toward the list in general, then you should have simply done so. Otherwise, if it was specifically directed toward me, you should have simply followed your own advice to not clutter the list with pointless traffic and sent me a private message. Slau On Mar 11, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Carolyn wrote: Slau: If you're asking a question, it makes no sense and creates pointless traffic. If you're making a point, could you please elaborate? TIA Carolyn - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:30 AM Subject: Re: vo scripts fore garage band? Scripts? On Mar 11, 2010, at 2:57 AM, hank smith wrote: hello where can I get vo scripts fore garage band? also how do I install them? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fwd: garageband accessibility
Begin forwarded message: From: Esther mori...@mac.com Date: December 1, 2009 2:04:28 AM EST To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: garageband accessibility Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Hello Justin, This isn't Ginny, but she posted to the vimac-audio list that she uploaded her VO buttons labeled in GB5 and Logic Pro to the vimac- audio page files. Go to page for uploaded vimac-audio files: http://groups.google.com:80/group/vimac-audio/files?hl=en Use item chooser menu to look for VoiceOver Labels.voprefs (without the quotes). Then, when you are on the link, press Option-Return to download the file. (If you just VO-Space on the link it will simply display the contents in your browser). HTH Cheers, Esther On Nov 30, 2009, Justin Kauflin wrote: Ginny, I would also be very interested in checking out those labels for Garage Band. . Peace Justin On Nov 4, 1:13 pm, Ginny Owens chickpowermu...@gmail.com wrote: I have almost all my buttons labeled in Logic 9 if anyone wants them. I just have to figure out how to export them. I have many of the buttons in GB 5 labeled or re-labeled with better info as well. Ginny Owens Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens Be my fan on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ginny-Owens/7671492734 Be my friend on Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/people/Ginny-Owens/742018292 Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ginnyowens iLike: http://www.ilike.com/artist/Ginny+Owens -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ben mustill- rose Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:garagebandaccessibility My understanding is that they only work on machines with a 15 screen, due to the scripts actually moving the cursor and clicking on the required button when a hotkey is pressed. Its far from ideal and the people (One does the scripting and another does the documentation - the documentation guy's the musical one) kno this, but at th end of the day, its better than nothing. I've heard songs that have been produced in logic using the scripts and they seem good enough. I've just emailed him. On 04/11/2009, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask. Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of development was a bit up in the air. Don't get me wrong they're cool for what they are and I'm grateful that they exist, so long as they work on your system, but there's a big difference between these and the native accessibility that really should be there by now. Come to think of it there's probably a significant difference too between what these can do and what a good scripter could probably put out now that VO and Aplle Script play nice, but that's just speculation. I say it almost everytime I post, but if you have any interest in either Logic orGarageband, make sure that Apple know that by emailing accessibil...@apple.com. They won't say much back currently, just thank you for your interest, but increased numbers showing interest is probably our best chance of seeing some changes at this stage. Anouk - Logic is more like Apple's competitor to Pro Tools. You'll find that many many studios and musicians tend to be using one or the other as their main app. It's a big step up fromGarageband capability and features wise, and would take most people a lot longer to learn and figure out because the user interface is huge in comparrison. Garageband, if and when it's ever fully accessible, is one of the coolest products I've ever seen for someone who isn't a pro musician, being both simple to use and still fairly powerful. Make sure Apple know that you're itching to use it. Cheers Scott anouk radix wrote: Hello, Logic is sort of the full version ofgarageband, right? Greetings, AnoukOn Nov 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: I still need to speak to my friend to see if he'll share his scripts to make logic accessible. Will do that asap; it would make more sence to use logic as apposed to garage band given its feature list and the low price. On 03/11/2009, anouk radix anou...@home.nl wrote: Hello, I was thinking now that there is progress with making protools accessible maybe we could bundle the issues that are still around when usinggaragebandand preventing it to be all that usable for blind users. Maybe we could ask apple to improve on this now that protools is getting better as well. I am not a serious pro musician so would rather usegaragebandthen
Re: need a little help, (ot) reply:
i would have to agree with bill, i tested the pages and had no problems/ hang times or even general slowness. i would love to be able to trouble shoot for you but am no where close to the right person for that. good luck with your troubles. Pete On Mar 2, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: we have come to our senses going to concentrate on doing anything to make my site better and just leave them alone. i did post to facebook and myspace which made me feel better but is something mostly only friends will see. still mad as heck but the only ideas i had would have just given them attention which is what i don't want. thanks and take care, max On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Bill Sprenger wrote: Max, Bill here. As far as my MBP13 is concerned, site works just fine; oh maybe a little slow in loading; however that can probably be explained by all the graphics; but no errors here; advice: stay off the war-path, eh? Cheers: Bill On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: Hello list; I need a little help here. I need one person using an apple laptop or desktop to visit a website for me and let me know if it is broken or if I've been blocked from visiting it. I've had some harsh words with the owner and he threatened to bar me from his site. I don't believe i did anything wrong, nor do my friend and family; but I need to know what's happening before I go to war with this fellow. so, if one of you could just go to www.usedrides.com and see if its up and running or if its giving a nul error message, I would be very greatful. Thank and take care, Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 3D audio game
Good day Yuma, Please ad me to that list of interested participants. On Feb 27, 2010, at 1:03 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Hey list, I've looked deeper into the unity 3D engine and it's audio capabilities, and with my team have thought up a game in multiplayer mode for the iphone which pits sighted players against blind players, whereas the latter will use full 3D audio to move and interact around. They will have augmented powers in audio form which allows them to hear sighted players move farther away than the sighted do. We were also thinking about magic spells for the blind players and a full control system with inventory, barter system, dialogue system and using an acapella voice, one of the british male ones, for the narrative and object information. This engine is in Java form when scripting links between components, but we're looking into the feasibility of voice over integration within unity for labelling purposes. I think that by increasing CPU usage on an audio only game experience, we can bump up the audio quality as well as positional relations/effects modulation on the fly without taxing the system too much. Think two versions of the app. The visual one and the audio only one. This is still at concept stage, but tests are already undergoing to make this a reality. If anyone is interested please do let me know, as i will require feedback on the first builds of the game. Cheers Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 blog: www.theblindsamurai.com twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interesting article on bionic sight
keep up the hope. it was great reading it. Thanks for the great post. Pete On Feb 20, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Hi, I've posted this as a fragment of what is happening in the bionic research world. I myself probably have optical nerve damage due to the trauma i've suffered. But when you think of the advancements of bio-mechanics and genetics. these options will create or facilitate techniques for the deeper interventions required. Call me an optimist, but i do believe very strongly that there will be heaps of advancements in all areas of synthetic vision. I apologize if i have offended anyone on this subject, but i guess my hyped attitude is due to my still newborn status as a cane-walker. I haven't even gotten to my habilitation course yet :) Have a good sunday YUma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New-World vs Old-World Computing…
Cara, thanks for the excellent post. it is a very proactive view point. bring onthe future. Pete On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Good day All! I thought I'd post the below, as I believe its sentiments are particularly relevant to our discussions of late, as well as to how VI / blind users deal with digital access in its current incarnation. I'll include both the link and the blog posting itself for convenience. Be warned, this is not only a long post, but does contain the occasional bit of colorful vocab. So if you're sensitive to that sort of thing, then you may choose to pass it over. It's up to you… Anyway, Thanks to Josh de Lioncourt for finding this tidbit. EnJoy, and have a lovely day!… Smiles, Cara :) link to post: http://stevenf.tumblr.com/post/359224392/i-need-to-talk-to-you-about-computers-ive-been Blog post: I need to talk to you about computers. I’ve been on a veritable roller-coaster of “how I feel” about the iPad announcement, and trying not to write about it until I had at least an inkling of what was at the root of that. Before we begin, a reminder: On this blog, I speak only for myself, not for my company or my co-workers. The thing is, to talk about specific hardware (like the iPad or iPhone or Nexus One or Droid) is to miss entirely the point I’m about to try to make. This is more important than USB ports, GPS modules, or front-facing cameras. Gigabytes, gigahertz, megapixels, screen resolution, physical dimensions, form factors, in fact hardware in general — these are all irrelevant to the following discussion. So, I’m going to try to completely avoid talking about those sorts of things. Let’s instead establish some new terminology: Old World and New World computing. Introduction Personal computing — having a computer in your house (or your pocket) — as a whole is young. As we know it today, it’s less than a half-century old. It’s younger than TV, younger than radio, younger than cars and airplanes, younger than quite a few living people in fact. In that really incredibly short space of time we’ve gone from punchcards-and-printers to interactive terminals with command lines to window-and-mouse interfaces, each a paradigm shift unto themselves. A lot of thoughtful people, many of whom are bloggers, look at this history and say, “Look at this march of progress! Surely the desktop + windows + mouse interface can’t be the end of the road? What’s next?” Then “next” arrived and it was so unrecognizable to most of them (myself included) that we looked at it said, “What in the shit is this?” The Old World In the Old World, computers are general purpose, do-it-all machines. They can do hundreds of thousands of different things, sometimes all at the same time. We buy them for pennies, load them up to the gills with whatever we feel like, and then we pay for it with instability, performance degradation, viruses, and steep learning curves. Old World computers can do pretty much anything, but carry the burden of 30 years of rapid, unplanned change. Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X based computers all fall into this category. The New World In the New World, computers are task-centric. We are reading email, browsing the web, playing a game, but not all at once. Applications are sandboxed, then moats dug around the sandboxes, and then barbed wire placed around the moats. As a direct result, New World computers do not need virus scanners, their batteries last longer, and they rarely crash, but their users have lost a degree of freedom. New World computers have unprecedented ease of use, and benefit from decades of research into human-computer interaction. They are immediately understandable, fast, stable, and laser-focused on the 80% of the famous 80/20 rule. Is the New World better than the Old World? Nothing’s ever simply black or white. Floppy Disks An anecdote: When the iMac came out, Apple drew a line in the sand. They said: we are no longer going to ship a computer with a floppy disk drive. The entire industry shit its pants so loudly and forcefully that you probably could have heard it from outer space. Are you insane? I spent all this money on a floppy drive! All my software is on floppy disks! You’ve committed brand suicide! Nobody will stand for this! Fast-forward to today. I can’t think of a single useful thing to do with a floppy disk. I can go to the supermarket and buy a CD, DVD, or flash drive that is faster, smaller, and stores 1,000 times as much data for typically less than a box of floppies used to cost. Or better still, we can just toss things to each other over the network. To get there, yes, we had to throw away some of our investment in hardware. We had to re-think how we did things. It required adjustment. A bit of sacrifice. The end result, I think we can all agree regardless of what platform we use,
Re: iTunes and time jump, can it be done?
Esther your the best, are these apple scripts functional with SL? I would like to thank you for all of your postings they have become a Mac bible for me. Best wishes for the new year and thanks in advance for any upcoming posts. Pete On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Lynn, The easiest way to do what you want is to download the RestartAt AppleScript from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads page: http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html I'm going to shortcut my explanation and point you to the last detailed description I wrote of how to use this from the macvisionaries archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg09299.html (Re: finding playback position in ituens, was creating ringtones) Skip the first 3 paragraphs (which were about setting start and stop times for making ringtones), and start reading at paragraph 4, which begins, An easier way to make these adjustments is to get a copy of the RestartAt AppleScript from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads page… The rest of the post describes how AppleScripts work, and how you can set this up. Basically, for any track that you start playing in iTunes (whether podcast, audiobook, music, movie, etc.), if you select the track, and then run RestartAt (which will appear as a menu option in an AppleScript menu on your iTunes menu bar once you download the AppleScript and put it in your Library/iTunes/Scripts folder), you'll be prompted for the time at which you want to start playing the track. If you carriage return, it will use your current position (which you'll also be informed of in the dialog window). HTH. Just make sure that you actually started the track playing and paused it before you run the script. There's a shortcut sequence that used to guarantee the track was selected, but with all the recent tweaks in iTunes behavior, I wouldn't want to try running down the sequence and checking the circumstances under which that works right now -- simpler to just tell you to make sure the track is active. Cheers, Esther Lynn Schneider wrote: Hi everyone. Is there a way to do a time jump in iTunes? I like to put on a podcast to relax myself before I fall asleep, and many times I will have listened to an hour or so of the podcast before drifting off, so the next day, I want to skip ahead to a specific time. I know about command-option-right and left arrows, but that is very slow. I did see something while poking around in the information menu that says start time and end time, but I can't quite get that to work. Any assistance with this would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. Lynn Schneider MSN Messenger canepri...@hotmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: using Facebook on the Mac?
it is far easier from your Iphone. pete On Dec 28, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Anyone had much luck with this? I'm trying it out, and finding it very hard to get around and figure out how to do things. If anyone has tips for using Facebook on the Mac, I'd appreciate any info. TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
multiple copies being posted
Good evening, As this was an issue earlier, it is not only Michael's mailings that are being posted numerous times. Is there a way for someone to reset the system , or is it some odd setting on my system that is causing this? Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multiple copies being posted
Cara, thanks for the update. it is greatly appreciated. Merry christmas happy holidays, Pete On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Pete and list, while I personally haven't been seeing this, I've no doubt others are, as this does happen with Google Groups from time to time. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience and unfortunately, there seems to be no way to stop these sorts of issues. Believe me, Josh and I have tried time and time again to deal with these, and others as well. We sure will keep y'all apprized if we do find anything out in regard to such issues. Once again, so sorry for the inconvenience and I wish you and yours a most lovely holiday season!!! Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 22, 2009, at 3:04 PM, peter apgar wrote: Good evening, As this was an issue earlier, it is not only Michael's mailings that are being posted numerous times. Is there a way for someone to reset the system , or is it some odd setting on my system that is causing this? Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mouseovers and voiceover
Dude, Lay off! Multiple postings will not help your cause. This is more then five postings. People will get back to you with responses when they have one. pete On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: Hi All, does anyone have any good tips for interacting with mouseovers in safari? Two examples I'm thinking of are: The new privacy settings in facebook where only the currently selected option gets keyboard focus. Also, at last.fm where you can highlight an artist in your library and the delete option appears. In both cases, it does not seem possible to move the VO cursor to the mouseover options. thanks for any thoughts. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vmware and key combinations
is 4 GHZ of ram enough to run both systems efficiently? Thanks in advance, Pete On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi Paul. When you are in a virtual machine in Fusion, the option key is your alt key, and the command key is your windows key. So therefore, you just have to press option tab to make a alt tab in your virtual windows, and command tab to switch over to your Mac applications. Awesome, isn't it? Regarding the applications key, you can use a little freeware program called Sharp keys to remap a key to the applications key, and you can also remap a insert key. I have remapped my right option key to the insert key, and my right command key to the applications key. I highly recommend you to switch to full screen when running a virtual machine. You can do that by pressing control command return or you can choose it from the toolbar. Voiceover doesn't need to be turned off when running a virtual machine. I have used both Fusion and other applications on my mac at the same time. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Dec 17, 2009 kl. 7:43 PM skrev Paul Erkens: Hi all, I installed vm ware a few days ago, but I am not happy with it. The keys I press don't do what they normally do in windows, and obviously there are good reasons for it. I checked the vm ware website, but there is only a half accessible pdf file, that doesn't contain the info I need. I alt plus tab a lot in windows. However, the command tab combination from within windows in vm ware, takes me to the mac os, and back, rather than switching from program to program inside vm's virtual machine. What can I do to set command plus tab to do an alt plus tab inside vm ware? 2. How do I simulate the application key? The mac has none. 3. How should I simulate a shift plus f10? Simply presing this combination stops windows from responding, inside vm ware. Do we press another key to simulate a shift f10? 4. It seems that voice over must be turned off, before starting windows in vm ware. This is said to be true starting in vm ware fusion version 3. At what point should I do this? 5. Is it easiest to run windows inside vm ware in a normal window, or rather full screen? Interested to know. Best, Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MacBook Pro and the trackpad
it is possible that you downloaded an update and it shut off the track commander. check under VO controls, and turn it back on. I have had this exact experience happen when running updates. good luck Pete On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Robert Carter wrote: Hi All, I have a one month old MacBook Pro. Today the trackpad was not working. I restarted the computer and it worked again as expected. This evening, however, it is not working again. I really enjoy using the trackpad with VoiceOver. Does anybody have any idea how to troubleshoot this? Thanks, Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: muting speech?
On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: function f ten eleven or t additionaly if you have the glass track pad a three finger double tap On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Isn't there a keystroke for this? I thought there was, but I can't seem to find it. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail
Under the mailbox icon after hitting VO try get all new mail. I had this happen once. This resolved the issue. Some how it got confused. if this does not work you may need to rebuild the account. Pete On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Marc Grossman wrote: I am using Mac mail to access a school e-mail account. It is an IMAP account. I set up the account and for the first couple of weeks, it was working fine. Now, I can only send mail but cannot receive mail. I checked with the school help desk but they cannot locate the problem. We checked the port. We checked the port using terminal. We checked the username and password. We checked the Internet connection. I am still receiving mail in Mac mail with my Gmail account. I have ATT as my DSL connection. Can anybody recommend other areas for me to check? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium
you should be committed. it's your fault for assuming. learn to communicate and all of your listed issues will be resolved. Good luck, Go nfb :( On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: I am so sick of teaching random citizens about guide dogs, blindness, that I don't need a wheelchair or assistance walking up a jet way, how I can dial a telephone, how I can pee into a urinal without missing - you name it, that I can almost explode. An anecdote: In Harvard Square, the rapid transit terminal has both bus and subway connections. I was working in Watertown (one town to the northwest of Cambridge, and I rode a bus to work. After getting down the stairs, I started walking to the indoor bus stop. Some random do-gooder came upon me and said, You're going the wrong way. I made the assumption that he was someone who took the same bus as me and that somehow I had become disoriented. No such luck - this bugger led me to the subway where I proceeded to start hitting him with my cane as I had missed my bus and would need to wait another half hour for the next one because of his moronic assumption. Sometimes violence can feel real good. cdh On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I love conversations like that! It's a rare treat for me when someone comes up and says, basically, You're different from me and that fascinates me, and I want to learn. Usually what I get is You're different from me and that makes me afraid, so I'm going to control what I fear so that it can't hurt me. Growing up, I was taught that It's your task to educate the sighted about the blind. In adult life, I realized that not only was this a pointless and thankless task, but it was a very heavy cross to bear, one that I had not asked for. Now, when someone is courageous enough to confront me as different and therefore stimulating, I feel privileged to talk to them; the rest of the people I don't bother trying to educate, because all the words in the world will not convince a scared or superstitious or xenophobic person to change their thinking patterns. Spent a half an hour with such an individual explaining how blind people use a computer or a dog, and they'll still shriek in panic and grab at you when stairs are present, or start talking to people around you about what you need, etc. Being cute and female never hurts, either. :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium
Chris, please accept my sincere apologies. the below message was not the completed response i had intended on posting. after reading the below posting i have unintentuly falsely targeted you personally. My intent was to poke fun and note one of my own experiences. however i have now made an official as* out of myself and would like to apologize to you and the list for the poor post. My sincere apologies, Pete On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:20 PM, peter apgar wrote: you should be committed. it's your fault for assuming. learn to communicate and all of your listed issues will be resolved. Good luck, Go nfb :( On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: I am so sick of teaching random citizens about guide dogs, blindness, that I don't need a wheelchair or assistance walking up a jet way, how I can dial a telephone, how I can pee into a urinal without missing - you name it, that I can almost explode. An anecdote: In Harvard Square, the rapid transit terminal has both bus and subway connections. I was working in Watertown (one town to the northwest of Cambridge, and I rode a bus to work. After getting down the stairs, I started walking to the indoor bus stop. Some random do-gooder came upon me and said, You're going the wrong way. I made the assumption that he was someone who took the same bus as me and that somehow I had become disoriented. No such luck - this bugger led me to the subway where I proceeded to start hitting him with my cane as I had missed my bus and would need to wait another half hour for the next one because of his moronic assumption. Sometimes violence can feel real good. cdh On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I love conversations like that! It's a rare treat for me when someone comes up and says, basically, You're different from me and that fascinates me, and I want to learn. Usually what I get is You're different from me and that makes me afraid, so I'm going to control what I fear so that it can't hurt me. Growing up, I was taught that It's your task to educate the sighted about the blind. In adult life, I realized that not only was this a pointless and thankless task, but it was a very heavy cross to bear, one that I had not asked for. Now, when someone is courageous enough to confront me as different and therefore stimulating, I feel privileged to talk to them; the rest of the people I don't bother trying to educate, because all the words in the world will not convince a scared or superstitious or xenophobic person to change their thinking patterns. Spent a half an hour with such an individual explaining how blind people use a computer or a dog, and they'll still shriek in panic and grab at you when stairs are present, or start talking to people around you about what you need, etc. Being cute and female never hurts, either. :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Ichat
Good evening all, is i chat accessible? is it worth setting up an AIM account for? Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
formulas in numbers
Good evening all, using numbers I am having a hard time with composition of formulas. for example in excel one would rite =b3-b7 and it would calculate. how does one reference columns and cell locations? Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ignore previous post: formulas in numbers
Sorry all was having some dificulty with vo and numbers. all is good now. Happy Thanksgiving! Pete, Begin forwarded message: From: peter apgar pap...@gmavt.net Date: November 24, 2009 9:05:35 PM EST To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: formulas in numbers Good evening all, using numbers I am having a hard time with composition of formulas. for example in excel one would rite =b3-b7 and it would calculate. how does one reference columns and cell locations? Thanks in advance, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: system sounds through computer speakers
try canned air. use small bursts it should free it with out the risk of breaking anything off in it. Pete On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Stan wrote: Hi Anne, Thanks for this, I think you have just hit it on the head. I think the micro-switch must be jammed, for when I tried the parameter ram reset with my headset unplugged, I still had no sound. I will now have to find some eyes to help and check things out, and maybe fidle the jack socket. Cheers U2meme2u, Stan. On 19 Nov 2009, at 10:41 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Stan, On Nov 18, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Stan wrote: Please tell me what do I do? I am trying to get sound through my internal speakers but system prefs, sound, output popup button is dimmed on head set. When you plug headphones into the Jack socket on your computer, it automatically cuts out the internal speakers. If you want sound from the internal speakers and through a headset, you need to use either USB or BlueTooth. If you have unplugged the headset from the Jack socket and it is still stuck on Headset, it means that the micro-switch inside the Jack socket is jammed. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/macvisionaries?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=.
safari
Good afternoon all, one sight that i frequent with windows and jaws is WWW.wakeworld.com however with the mac i am unable to read the discussion boards. i have tried multiple ways of interacting with the pages. for someone who is good with safari, would you give a look at the discussion boards on this page and let me know how you were able to read the postings? Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari
after clicking on discussion link, i open On the tree view.and try to interact with the boat and toe vehicle table. from that point on i have not been able to read, or open the different discussion topics. Pete Nov 14, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, What are you having issues with? Can you tell me where exactly you click? What you're having trouble reading? What tables? It seems perfectly doable on my end, at least. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 14, 2009, at 8:56 PM, peter apgar wrote: Good afternoon all, one sight that i frequent with windows and jaws is WWW.wakeworld.com however with the mac i am unable to read the discussion boards. i have tried multiple ways of interacting with the pages. for someone who is good with safari, would you give a look at the discussion boards on this page and let me know how you were able to read the postings? Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari
thanks Nick, this is the mac's life saver. Pete On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I click Discussion, then Click on the Boats and Tow-vehicles accessories link. I'm assuming that's what you mean, since that's the only thing boat-related. I simply do VO-Command-T to go to the table, and VO-Right until I find the link I want. I haven't set my preferences so that I have to interact with every table I come across, though it shouldn't make a difference. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 14, 2009, at 9:18 PM, peter apgar wrote: after clicking on discussion link, i open On the tree view.and try to interact with the boat and toe vehicle table. from that point on i have not been able to read, or open the different discussion topics. Pete Nov 14, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, What are you having issues with? Can you tell me where exactly you click? What you're having trouble reading? What tables? It seems perfectly doable on my end, at least. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 14, 2009, at 8:56 PM, peter apgar wrote: Good afternoon all, one sight that i frequent with windows and jaws is WWW.wakeworld.com however with the mac i am unable to read the discussion boards. i have tried multiple ways of interacting with the pages. for someone who is good with safari, would you give a look at the discussion boards on this page and let me know how you were able to read the postings? Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???
could you post the notes. that was a great description. Thanks, Pete On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi James, OK I'm not sure how much you know of internet markup, so forgive me if I'm being too simplistic. Way back in about 1995 what we know of as the internet was still pretty much in its infancy. At that stage, documents were rudimentary and the things that could be displayed on the web were fairly primitive. At this time browsers such as the text-based Lynx, and the graphically oriented Mosaic and Netscape were dominant. Documents were static. They were prepared using HTML, and the level of interactivity was minimal. Along came Netscape (the company) and decided it would be nice to have a degree of interactivity on the web. So they developed Javascript. In essence, javascript sits in the header portion of an HTML document and enables client-side scripts to be embedded into web pages. This differs from PHP (another scripting language) in that PHP runs on the server and delivers pages to the browser. OK let's give you an example. Let's suppose you have a form on a web page that requires a certain type of input; let's say for arguments sake a telephone number. So I as a user enter abcdef7 instead of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. I click the submit button. If the developer has written the appropriate javascript code, it will check the input of the form before it is sent to the server for processing. If everything is in order, (which in our previous example it is not) it will send the data to the server for storage or whatever needs to be done. However, as there are errors in the data in the telephone number field it can either pop up a message box informing us of the error, or perform some other action. Javascript can also handle various events like mouse clicks, keyboard events, and loads of other things to make the web experience more dynamic. However, in my opinion, badly written Javascript has been responsible for more inaccessible or unusable webpages than anything else over the years, and yep I'm including flash in there as well. In essence, Javascript, therefore, is a client-side (or browser side) way of adding dynamism or interactivity to web pages. I'm giving a lecture to some first year undergrads on this stuff in a few weeks, so if you do want more info just let me know and I'll send you a link to the notes. Cheers, Donal On 12 Nov 2009, at 22:08, James Nash wrote: What is JavaScript? I've looked it up on Wikipedia, but I've found it too technical. Thanks for any explainations. TC James - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released??? Nice. Sunspider Javascript benchmarks dropped from 857ms to 671ms on my MacbookPro. That's a bit more than a 20% improvement in JavaScript execution speed. CB Charlie Doremus wrote: Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything interesting will report. Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser histories less painful, and enhances the stability of third-party plug-ins and, for what it’s worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!). On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Christina blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements. Thanks, Christina -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I've done it.
Good evening all, how does one modify the voice rate of the time. i am referring to using the right option T. VO. becomes lethargic. any suggestions. Thanks in advance, Pete8, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Hello. If you have Keyboard commander turned on in Voiceover Preferences, you can check the time by hitting the right option key and the letter T together. To enable Keyboard commander do the following: 1. Hit control+option+f8 to open VoiceOver utility. 2. Interact with the categories table and navigate down to the commanders category. 3. Stop interacting with the Categories table and vo+rightarrow a couple times and you should hear the keypad and keyboard tabs. On the Keyboard tab, hit vo+space to select the keyboard tab. 4. Vo+rightarrow again and you should hear a checkbox to enable keyboard commander. Check that box with vo+space. You should also tell VoiceOver to allow itself to be controled by Applescript. I think you can find in the general category in VoiceOver utility. On Nov 8, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote: Hi all. Yes, I bought an imac last friday. So far, I love it. it's amazing how fast it is to get things done, and*most* things work fine. I have my phone sinced with iCal and address book, been doing a bit of web brouzing with safari, used front roe, gotten voice over saving my settings on a usb drive, all the usual stuff. I still need to add my music to iTunes though. most of the ID3 tags in my mp3s are messed up. some of them have both the artist and title duplicated in both the artist and title fields. I'll have to run them through mp3 tag studio on windows first as nearly all the file names are done as artist - title.mp3, so that should sort mmost things out. . But can itunes fill in all the other tags? one thing I can't get to work is e-mail. I've switched both my phone and pc to imap with no problems at all. but the mac doesn't want to know. the incoming server has an invalid certificate and it can't connect to the smtp server. it's really frustrating. I have e-mailed the tech support guys so they should hopefully have an answer. I still keep forgetting how the cursor works. I understand what's happening, I just keep reverting to windows habbits. I'll get it eventually. then I'll be expecting windows to behave like the mac. While editing text on a webpage, say in a reply on a message board, the home and end keys don't seem to do what they're supposed to do. also, if I do vo shift m to bring up the menu of misspelled words, it clicks on the wrong word. do I have to move the vo cursor onto the word I want to change? I was just using the arrow keys before. is there a command to read the current time rather than hopping over to the status menus? I know it's possible. To whoever it was who uses XMarks on the mac, did you try it on snow leopard? I downloaded the snow leopard package, ran it and it says that it requires leopard. I'm running 10.6.1. I'll also need to get it to write to ntfs drives, say if I want to copy some music I bought in itunes over to my windows machine,. I'm planning on buying superdooper or whatever it's called. that sounds like a fantastic backup solution. Finally, has anyone had any luck using the dashboard? I can bring up the different widgets ok, they're just confusing to wirk with. particularly the weather one. I'm sure I'll come up with more questions to keep you lot busy. :) so like I said, if it wasn't for it not playing ball with my e-mail provider, I'd be totally happy and for most things, I can see myself using the mac exclusively. Bye for now, Dannie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quick question re buying a Mac
this is not normally the case. they will configure it wile you wait. from my purchase experience the only options they could not offer in the store were the solid state drives. call a head and make sure they have the componnets in stock. they may s schedule a time to have the techs configure it wile you wait. it should only take an hour or so depending on the traffic in the store. enjoy the experience. Pete On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: Danni, from my experience the Apple stores can order any configuration that is offered by Apple but it usually takes longer then ordering it online. Frank -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Rowe Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:05 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Quick question re buying a Mac Hi all. If I bought a Mac from an Apple store rather than using their online store, will I still get the option for them to configure it to my specifications? thanks, Dannie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.51/2482 - Release Date: 11/05/09 02:37:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
this switch changes the three finger tripple tap from muteing to turning off vo. this allows sighted users to use the phone as normal. it also allows a blind user to turn vo back on with the three finger tripple tap Pete On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, Odd that the checkbox doesn't change. I don't turn speech off on my iphone much, so have never checked that out. Anyway, glad this helped. You know, it's funny. When SL came out, I was really excited about the trackpad commander. But I stopped using it almost immediately, because it seemed I was always making things happen that I didn't want to, moving the cursor, opening windows, etc. My arms tend to rest on the front part of the Macbook, so when I was typing they would move across the trackpad, initiating various and sundry events. I haven't used the trackpad since shortly after I installed SL. I may give it another try someday, but for the moment I've decided it's easier to stick to the keyboard. Good luck, and let me know how it goes. Take care, Donna On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted my speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using the trackpad. Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. If it does, you know what's causing your problem. Best, Donna On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't get it to do much. One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and so all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone for me when using the braille display. The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just cruzing arount the screen when VO says speech muted and stops talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute check box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo volume are turned down. Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet and see if I can make it happen. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
a three finger double tap will mute VO. if you turn BO off and on again it will react exactly as you posted. the way to solve this is to again three finger double tap. this feature works great especialy when you don't want VO to read information every so many minutes. On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't get it to do much. One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and so all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone for me when using the braille display. The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just cruzing arount the screen when VO says speech muted and stops talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute check box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo volume are turned down. Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet and see if I can make it happen. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
Good evening, The following is a little information for clarification. a. Three finger double tap mutes and unmutes VO. b Three finger tripple tap turns the screen curtin on or off. c. a three finger single tap will tel you what page number you are on and the number of available pages. Thanks, Pete On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Marshall Scott wrote: Hi, I found out the hard way that a certain multi finger tap will mute speech. I think it was a 3 finger double tap. Anyway, I think it's similar to the turn screen curtain on/off command. HTH Marsh On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Erik, The speech muting problem is the one I was asking about a couple of weeks ago. I haven't got a recent machine with a multi-touch trackpad, but several people on my French list have reported this problem. I shall pass on your solution to them as it's much better than throwing away a preference file. Cheers, Anne On Nov 3, 2009, at 2:31 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't get it to do much. One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and so all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone for me when using the braille display. The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just cruzing arount the screen when VO says speech muted and stops talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute check box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo volume are turned down. Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet and see if I can make it happen. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Volume Issue
i too have the volume problem. i do not require login. no matter the volume one shuts down at. once restarted it starts at 55% every time. Pete On Oct 29, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Or one other option would be to just check Require Password to wake this computer in security, then in accounts Check the option to have Voiceover read the login screen. On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Ah, sorry, I thought perhaps you ran in a multi-user configuration. You could accomplish the same thing by lowering the volume before you turn off the machine. THe problem is when you go directly into your account upon boot up, your volume setting is retained at the setting you last used the machine. I have multiple accounts for testing etc. so I can set the volume, rate of speech, etc. while at the login screen and thus the startup chime can be cranked way down. Now if you use headphones, you could reduce the volume to a pretty low level and retain a different volume for the headphones. THis would also accomplish your goal. Good luck, On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Angel Dockham wrote: What login screen? I don't have a login screen come up when i turn on the computer it just goes to the apple logo screen and then to the desktop. On Oct 27, 6:14 am, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: When you are at the login screen, turn the volume to the level you'd like it to be and all should be well. This works for the Intel- based machines and not the G4/G5 series as far as I have been able to determine. On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Angel wrote: Hi Guys, I am having trouble with my volume whenI turn my computer on each morning the volume is all the way up. I know at night before I turn the computer off the volume was on low. How can I stop it from increasing my volume to max when I turn it off? Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: battery life
i have timed it at 7.5 hours on average. I was using mail surfing for data on the web and making a playlist out of my library. i was able to run it for a hair over 9 hours with screen curtain on and only playing music via itunes. If It is a mbp 13 with the 253 processor. Pete On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:09 PM, John W. Carty wrote: For those of you using laptops, how long does the battery last from a full charge using vo? Thanx, John Carty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The IPhone and Battery Life
for the same results three finger triple tap and it will turn on screen curtain. this will give you the same battery life extension and if you ever want someone to look at some thing all you need to do is three finger triple tap and it will be back to full brightness. Pete On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Jensen wrote: Hi Scott. Have you set the brighness to 0? That helped a lot on my phone. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Oct 25, 2009 kl. 11:58 AM skrev Scott Howell: Folks, I have had my iPhone for about two weeks now and I'm enjoying all the benefits a great deal. I however am a little concerned about the battery life, which going into this I knew was not going to be quite as good as what I had been experiencing with my Motorola Q9 running MobileSpeak. I also realize there are a number of factors, which will impact battery performance and I have gotten a little feedback from someone, but I'd like to try to get a bit more. I imagine it is possible there is an issue with my phone, but perhaps not and I think it is worth checking this entire issue out. Here is a little about my usage, area I use the phone in, etc. that may help explain my observations. 1. I have WI-FI off, 3G on, Data Roaming off, and Location Services on. 2. I generally turn my phone on about 3:00 a.m. 3. I listen to podcast or some streaming content for about half an hour to 45 minutes in the morning. 4. Maybe a couple of calls lasting less than 10 minutes during the day and I do mean just a couple. 5. I will check e-mail for about 15 to 20 minutes on my ride home (it's hard to type on a bouncing bus) :). 6. I get home about 5:00 p.m. and my battery is down to 30 to 40 percent. On my motorola Q I of course only use it for voice communications because I just did not like using MSS for surfing etc. Saying this I realize the iPhone does a lot more in data transactions, so I anticipate needing to charge more frequently than the Motorola and I understand VOiceOver will certainly have an impact on battery life, but perhaps more than it should and I suspect this will only improve. Now my friend who also has an iPhone, but does not use VoiceOver can get a couple of days and his primary use is surfing the web and he probably does this for a couple of hours during the day. I also know one person who responded to me who got several days, but the usage was light in her particular situation. So, with all this said, I'd like to get some idea of what folks are getting out of their phones in terms of battery performance. If I turn off 3G and VO during the times I'm in the office and not needing either, I am sure I'd be ahead, but what is clear to me is if I had to carry the phone all day and I'm talking for 16 to 18 hours, I know it would not be possible and the phone would require a charge. Of course having to turn this and that off just doesn't make sense and it is obvious to me these phones are capable of performing quite well with the battery they have, but of course any screen reader will have some impact. My greatest concern is partly do to the fact I'm looking for a good navigation solution I can use around town or when I have to go to meetings when I'm in DC. Any feedback/thoughts would be appreciated and feel free to send them directly if you prefer. I can't seem to get subscribed to the iPhone list, so hope you all don't mind me posting this here. THanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The IPhone and Battery Life
it gave me 25-30% increase to battery life. PeteOn Oct 25, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Hey Pete, good point, I wasn't sure that would really help since I think someone had brought this up for discussion a while back where laptops were concerned and it was determined that the screen curtain didn't offer much in terms of battery savings. Perhaps the screen on the iPHone is a bit different? Of course I'm very interested in what others experience is with the iPhone and battery life and not just in how to conserve it. thanks, On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:09 AM, peter apgar wrote: for the same results three finger triple tap and it will turn on screen curtain. this will give you the same battery life extension and if you ever want someone to look at some thing all you need to do is three finger triple tap and it will be back to full brightness. Pete On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Jensen wrote: Hi Scott. Have you set the brighness to 0? That helped a lot on my phone. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Oct 25, 2009 kl. 11:58 AM skrev Scott Howell: Folks, I have had my iPhone for about two weeks now and I'm enjoying all the benefits a great deal. I however am a little concerned about the battery life, which going into this I knew was not going to be quite as good as what I had been experiencing with my Motorola Q9 running MobileSpeak. I also realize there are a number of factors, which will impact battery performance and I have gotten a little feedback from someone, but I'd like to try to get a bit more. I imagine it is possible there is an issue with my phone, but perhaps not and I think it is worth checking this entire issue out. Here is a little about my usage, area I use the phone in, etc. that may help explain my observations. 1. I have WI-FI off, 3G on, Data Roaming off, and Location Services on. 2. I generally turn my phone on about 3:00 a.m. 3. I listen to podcast or some streaming content for about half an hour to 45 minutes in the morning. 4. Maybe a couple of calls lasting less than 10 minutes during the day and I do mean just a couple. 5. I will check e-mail for about 15 to 20 minutes on my ride home (it's hard to type on a bouncing bus) :). 6. I get home about 5:00 p.m. and my battery is down to 30 to 40 percent. On my motorola Q I of course only use it for voice communications because I just did not like using MSS for surfing etc. Saying this I realize the iPhone does a lot more in data transactions, so I anticipate needing to charge more frequently than the Motorola and I understand VOiceOver will certainly have an impact on battery life, but perhaps more than it should and I suspect this will only improve. Now my friend who also has an iPhone, but does not use VoiceOver can get a couple of days and his primary use is surfing the web and he probably does this for a couple of hours during the day. I also know one person who responded to me who got several days, but the usage was light in her particular situation. So, with all this said, I'd like to get some idea of what folks are getting out of their phones in terms of battery performance. If I turn off 3G and VO during the times I'm in the office and not needing either, I am sure I'd be ahead, but what is clear to me is if I had to carry the phone all day and I'm talking for 16 to 18 hours, I know it would not be possible and the phone would require a charge. Of course having to turn this and that off just doesn't make sense and it is obvious to me these phones are capable of performing quite well with the battery they have, but of course any screen reader will have some impact. My greatest concern is partly do to the fact I'm looking for a good navigation solution I can use around town or when I have to go to meetings when I'm in DC. Any feedback/thoughts would be appreciated and feel free to send them directly if you prefer. I can't seem to get subscribed to the iPhone list, so hope you all don't mind me posting this here. THanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: attention Lioncourt
Michael, so my argument is to place a few more KB's in a mailing. This will eliminate the MB's associated with surfing that it often takes to locate the given articles in their entirety. Mail tend's to be less of a hog then surfing. as for much of the extra mailings that post limited data they add more band with clutter then the difference in the size of the mailings. would to add my personal data on this, discussion, i pay for a thumb drive modem that has a limited usage and by no means would josh's full articles cause me to break my limit. MY request WAS in no way intended to sling mud at josh but to make more of his information available to those just trying to learn the mac. with limited time. Josh no personal attacks intended. Thanks, Pete On Oct 25, 2009, at 9:39 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; i have to jump in here. We have limited bandwith here where i live, and we have six computers on the network. SOutheast alaska isn't the best for internet. Josh, thanks, for not posting the entire messages, as i know this would limit our bandwith even more, even if it's something i don't want to read. mike On Oct 25, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: I'm sorry you feel that way. I would appreciate it if you would not mis-represent what we're doing. If you had actually read previous messages, we were mainly discussing the problem that some folks, in some parts of the world, or with some wireless carriers in the US and elsewhere, have to pay for data by the KB, among other considerations. I don't get enough from the Google Ads or donations to even cover hosting costs, so that argument is ridiculous. We really do try to do what is in the best interest of the community. I'm sorry you feel there is some conspiracy theory or something going on behind the scenes. Sadly, Josh On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:51 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: Lots of people have. Moderation say that they will implament things that are in the best interest of the community, yet even though lots of people asked for the full text to be included, its not happening. It all boils down to promotion. I've been on josh'is site quite a few times and I feel that it has some really valuable content, but lets be honest, the only reason that the ful text isn't posted is so that he can get more clicks and hopefully more clicks on his google adds. You'll probably get the old some people don't have broadband so we need to compact messages excuse, but in reality, the size difference would be at most a few k, which would take around a second on a 56k modem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
vo sonos?
good day all, does any one know if vo works with sonos wireless music systems software? Thanks in advance. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
what is mudding? Thanks in advance. Pete On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:53 PM, KehzaFox wrote: You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to I want to throw it out the window. Jeff michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key
attention Lioncourt
Josh, I have previously posted a request that your mailings include the entire article when posting. others have expressed similar interests. Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning on Trackpad Commander
This is the case with us key boards. tested 30 seconds ago. pete On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Eeuh, I always do it by holding the VO keys then rotating two fingers clockwise. best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: my 2 months with a mac
well said all, there are several cool factors for the mac os. one of which is the fact that we don't have to pay extra for the accessibility. however the largest down fall is the majority of work places do not support OSX. for this reason alone i only have limited time to explore its virtues. i will second the same issues that Donna posted previously. additionally i have found that there is a lot more interaction for simple tasks. double the key strokes for the same actions as in ms is just a minor peev. i am quite worried that running two or possibly three systems may become overwhelming when begining a graduate program. i guess only time will tell. has any one written code for a quick check of the time? Have good evening, Pete On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, May McDonald wrote: Hi all, I guess I'll jump in on this thread as well. I haven't had my mac for 2 months yet, but pretty close. I'm amazed that I was able to make the switch so easily to the mac. In fact, now whenever I have to use a windows machine I finder it a little harder to think of the windows commands because they aren't used by me all the time anymore, smile. I will be putting windows 7 on this mac but again it won't be used all the time, only for scanning because I liked my scanning software for windows and to play games. Other than that, it will be hidden behind mac. I'm glad I made the switch and now go back to the basics and figure out how sly and vo work, lol. On 2009-10-21, at 8:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all you had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit your needs. You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am currently job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a site I am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, it read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no clue what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often feel like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a webpage in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a veil that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. Links of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very difficult to locate. I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful little toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* Cheers, Donna On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] The NFB Publishes a Second Look at VoiceOver
Good afternoon Josh, I am a new comer to the mac. much of what you publish is very helpful, i have a very limited amount of time to follow through with the links you post. if possible would you be willing to publish your editorials in full rather then the intro's. Thanks in advance, PeteOn Oct 20, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Maccessibility wrote: The NFB Publishes a Second Look at VoiceOver Last June, the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) published a highly flawed and controversial review of VoiceOver and the accessibility of the Mac OS X platform. Shortly thereafter, we published an editorial discussing the article and the NFB's response to criticism of the review. Steve Sawczyn of ATMaine.com and our very own Mac-cessibility Round [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/10/20/the-nfb-publishes-a-second-look-at-voiceover/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gestures help.
good afternoon, it is more like keeping your pointer finger in one location and sliding your middle finger around your fix pointer finger. in testing this with mail it rotated between words navigation and careactors.. Good luck. Pete On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: Hi all, I just started getting into the trackpad gestures with my macbook. I read the help and it said to use the rotor by rotating two fingers around the pad. I move my fingers in a circle but nothing happens. It just moves me across the screen. Is there a trick I'm missing? Jesse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
sinking I phone with mac
Good evening all, i have previously set up my i phone with a PC. i am looking to update and now sync with my mac. i want to make sure that when syncing for the first time it will not eliminate all contacts. i don't care if it removes music but the contacts i have may be updated on the mac or I phone. will one override the other if duplicates exist? any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: numbers guide
John, thank You! this was exactly what i needed. i am finding that i need to learn things on the mac after a taxing day at the office. when needing to be able to make things work with out patients is not a good combination. thanks for saving this cool MBP of mine. Pete On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:54 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi Pete, I am using Numbers a lot with Snow Leopard, since it is even more accessible here. Here is some basic VO tips for working with a blank template in Numbers: •Launch Numbers so that you have the templates window in front of you, or press command-shift-N to bring up the template chooser. •find the list of template categories and press return on the blank template. Numbers will open a fresh and new blank page. •Navigate to the scroll area and interact with it. •Navigate to the layout area and interact with it. •Navigate to the table 1 table and interact with it. •Use your arrow keys to navigate around in the sheet, when you are on a header cell or row/column cell where you would like to add new data or overwrite existing data, simply write. •To edit or add data to an existing content, VO-shift-space on the cell and navigate inside of the cell with the arrow keys. •When finished, press return and you are done. You are taken to the next cell. There are different ways to interact with Numbers when you use VO, my suggestion is to create a test to play around with, and get familiar with it before working on real content. You will find both a Getting started guide and a User Guide under the Help menu in Numbers. Hope this helps! Take care, John André On 30. sep. 2009, at 03.29, peter apgar wrote: Good evening all, as i have been playing around with numbers lately. a few questions come to mind. 1. how does one open a blank worksheet with out all of the options like budget shopping lists and other formatting choices being selected? 2 after opening this new work sheet can one edit formulas similar to excel? 3 is there some sort of getting started guide for numbers? any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
numbers guide
Good evening all, as i have been playing around with numbers lately. a few questions come to mind. 1. how does one open a blank worksheet with out all of the options like budget shopping lists and other formatting choices being selected? 2 after opening this new work sheet can one edit formulas similar to excel? 3 is there some sort of getting started guide for numbers? any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: quick nav problem
It seams as if there is more going on then I first experienced. Under the settings I was previously operating mail would let you vio keys left after selecting the mail box you were interested in. First it would say vertical splitter. Vio right again, and you would be in the message table. You would then be able to freely arrow up and down and voice over would read each of the messages senders and subject lines. Now it will only read the top mail and if you try to arrow up and down left or right it will read all of the splitters and not let you navigate the column that you were in initially . It acts if vio keys are locked and I have tried to turn the vio lock on and off again, with no resolve. It will not even let me navigate the menus correctly with out getting stuck in the first option with a sub menu. No matter the interaction you are not able to navigate even the sub menus. Is there a way to re set factory settings in mail? Thanks, Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chantel Cuddemi Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: quick nav problem left and right arrow will turn it off. On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:11 PM, peter apgar wrote: Good evening all, i have some how turned on quick nav on in mail and for the life of me can't figure out how to turn it off. is there a hot key for this? Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: quick nav problem
please disregard my previous posting. guess i need some good sleep to shake the cobwebs loose. Thanks all of the help. Pete On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:57 PM, peter Apgar wrote: It seams as if there is more going on then I first experienced. Under the settings I was previously operating mail would let you vio keys left after selecting the mail box you were interested in. First it would say vertical splitter. Vio right again, and you would be in the message table. You would then be able to freely arrow up and down and voice over would read each of the messages senders and subject lines. Now it will only read the top mail and if you try to arrow up and down left or right it will read all of the splitters and not let you navigate the column that you were in initially . It acts if vio keys are locked and I have tried to turn the vio lock on and off again, with no resolve. It will not even let me navigate the menus correctly with out getting stuck in the first option with a sub menu. No matter the interaction you are not able to navigate even the sub menus. Is there a way to re set factory settings in mail? Thanks, Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chantel Cuddemi Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: quick nav problem left and right arrow will turn it off. On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:11 PM, peter apgar wrote: Good evening all, i have some how turned on quick nav on in mail and for the life of me can't figure out how to turn it off. is there a hot key for this? Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
I cal
Good morning all, i am attempting to use I Cal. however no matter what i do to try to interact , show calendars or simply look into showing the monthly break down of where days fall nothing is reported through vo. Thanks, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
play list instructions
Good evening, could some one provide a set of instructions for creating a play list in I Tunes using SL? if possible provide step by step directions for adding songs from the music library to the newly created play list. Thanks in advance, Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
drag and drop with sl
Good evening all, how does one drag and drop with vo and snow lepard? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: tips on using the trackpad
Hello, track pad needs to be enabled within voice over preferences. also if you double tap with a single finger it will open, check or un check what ever was spoken before you preformed the double tap. the track pad has to be one of the best innovations for the blind. it act's exactly like the i phone. Pete On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Mike Reiser wrote: Thanks all for the help, the jestures are getting easier, it's basically the moving your finger around the screen which I find frustrating. Also can you open programs and all from the trackpad or is it just restricted to moving in apps? I was a little confused reading about it in the documentation. MikeD On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:13 AM, peter apgar wrote: good morning, 1. two finger flick up: read intire page. 2. two finger flick down: read from current location. 3. two finger flick left: stop inter acting. 4. two finger flick right: interact with highlighted item. 5. single finger flick to the left, right, up, and down: moves vo cursor in respective directions 6. three finger flicks up, down, left, and right moves a page in the respective direction. 7. triple finger tripple tap: screen curtain on and off. 8. tripple finger double tap: voice over mute and unmute. i forgot the finger gestures of the rotor. hopefully this helps. Pete On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi Mike. I am in the same situation as you. I also have a trackpad, but I can not find out how to use it. I would really like to, because I am a person, who do not remember keystrokes and other comands very well, I always look in the menus. Best regards Annie. 2009/9/10, Christina blindmaclo...@gmail.com: Hi, I'm sorry but I do not have the multi-touch track pad so I really cannot offer help. However, I understand that you can use the keyboard help to play with the track pad as well. Press vo plus K. Then try different gestures. When you're done practicing press escape to get out of keyboard help. I bet someone here will have more information for you. Christina On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Mike Reiser wrote: Hello all, I need some tips on navigating with the trackpad. I have the trackpad commander enabled and when I drag my finger arround the screen vo seems to be speaking all over the place and immits lots of different sound effects. It seems to be very sensative and I'm not sure what the best way is to proceed. I acidently muted vo a couple of times without even meaning to and would like some tips on this. I can flick just fine, it's just moving my fingers arround is where I get into trouble. Thanks, MikeÎ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help with mail please, reply to John C.
Donna, try going to prefrences under mail. check to make sure the out going server is correct select the server from the outgoing button and check the use only this server option. i had the similar issue and this resolved it. good luck. Pete On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi John, Yes I did the upgrade and that didn't help. I've had one account that has never worked. Unfortunately, that's my work account, which puts a real big crimp in my ability to use the Mac for work stuff. The problem with the other account started this afternoon when I accidentally deleted my servers from my server list. I have put them back, but now they don't work. Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
I would have to disagree. The I phone is designed for the general population. by removing one of the gestures you are there by removing some of the sighted users accessability. we are a limited population and by making voiceover available by means of I tunes it maximizes accessability with out anoying the majority of their sales. could you picture a sighted person haveing all of their gestures respond differently? WTF would probably be the first words out of their mouths. On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: great question and suggestion. tell apple through their accessibility section. Take care, Max On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self- service experience? CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sending an email message
it is command shift d not E]e. Pete On Sep 10, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Keith Brown wrote: Does anyone else have a problem with the command plus shift plus e command? i.e to send a message. it doesn't work for me. I have to navigate to message and select the send option. cheers Keith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] FaceBook iPhone Application Updated With Accessibility Fixes
I too would have to agree with scott! On Sep 5, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Nice post, Scott. These are all very good points. donna -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Mac-cessibility News] FaceBook iPhone Application Updated With Accessibility Fixes Cara - Appologies if it came across as less than constructive critique at your end, I thought I made it pretty obvious that I wasn't knocking Josh's efforts at all. Perhaps it was the comparrison that came over wrong, for what it's worth, it was written light heartedly at this end. Not everyone thinks the same, hence why I kept it on list and suggested either a poll or for more folks to chime in. A few thoughts from the slow costly access and mobile camp, of course they're going to be from my own point of view, can't help that, but my thought processes aren't too outragious (most of the time): Surely the majority of people who'd be browsing high traffic lists like this on a mobile device would have some sort of data plan in place, or risk bankruptcy. Seeing as how not every platform is as slick and quick as the iPhone though, wouldn't it make more sense for those people to receive a couple of extra kb of text in their email per day at most rather than launch their browser, wait for a whole webpage to download on what could likely be a flakey connection, then take on the frustration of navigating the content (no disrespect, it's a well laid out site, my point is that mobile browsing in the main is fairly horrible). For the pay-per-minute folks or similar, again, sticking in one app and downloading an email with the full content as a couple kb of text verses firing up their prefered choice of browser and downloading a whole page of HTML would save time and money would it not? All I can say is that, although it's from my own point of view, I'm moving to a new pad next week and will be getting my net access from a horrid mixture of those two options, and the above makes more sense to me as I'm fast approaching the week or so of access-less trauma lol. Plus, I'm not sure if you've made it through the whole thread yet, but you seem to have quite a few people not minding the updates, but prefering the full content. Clearly not everyone is as grouchy as us troublemakers that started the debate, but that part of it doesn't seem to be going away. Scott - I get why you forward your posts linked to stay on the right side of people's terms and conditions, but seeing as all the posts I can remember have been written by a contributor to maccessibility.net, I'd hope they have permission to republish there own stuff. Hopefully this doesn't tread on anyone's toes too hard, just my 2 cents worth. Scott On 9/5/09, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Once again you all really do need to remember here that just because those of us here in America seem to have basically fast, free- flowing internet access, that's just not the case in all areas of the world, or even in this country. (US) There are many people whom pay based on bandwidth used. So, each additional minute they spend downloading email is more money they spend out-of-pocket. This isn't even touching on the vast audience on mobile devices… Quite simply put, this model of posting with a summary and link really is the best balance we know of, currently, to work well for everyone. Honestly, since when is it so very difficult to click on a link?… As I said, this is not some push to get traffic to the site. this is simply meant as a quick, courteous way of posting good, relevant, timely info that everyone can benefit from, in a way that they can easily work with. I hope this makes sense… Just as a side note here, you all really should know (not to put poor Josh on the spot here :) ) but Josh has really out done himself here with the Maccessibility network site, putting extreme amounts of hours / effort into it so that your user experience really can be superb. And, I for one, think he's done a fab job! So once again, might I simply ask that we consider contributing suggestions / critique in a positive way, and perhaps share suggestions with Josh and I, which you feel might actually benefit the larger user base, rather than just yourself or a small group?… We'd definitely appreciate feedback in this way. Thanks for reading and once again, do have a lovely weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Sep 5, 2009, at 1:22 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: If the email contained the full text of the article I probably wouldn't have minded so much. If a user is going through a list of there emails and only reading the ones that interest them, assuming
Re: 3 features that hmm?
Well said Donna!!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: Hello all, I have to support Rich here. The attitude displayed by many Mac users toward Windows, and toward Windows users who are doing their best to learn the Mac OS is frankly despicable. Many mac users--definitely not all--are nothing more than a bunch of narrow-minded snobs. Windows is not the dark side. It is a viable choice, perhaps a better choice for some people. JAWS and Windows worked very well for me for nearly 20 years. I am only here because I want to support Apple's efforts, not because I believe Windows or JAWS to be the devil incarnate. Yes, editing is different. Those who prefer editing in Windows are not wrong, they just prefer something different. They are entitled to that preference, just as all on this list are entitled to their preference for the Mac. If Apple implements some choices to facilitate transition from Windows, there's nothing wrong with that. No one has to use it unless they want to. Personally, I think it's great that there are multiple alternatives now available for blind users. Yes, what Apple has done for accessibility is tremendous. That said, I just applied for a job at a place where they pretty much come out and tell you that if you choose to use a Mac, you won't be able to utilize all of their materials. So, if I get that position, I'll be using Windows for all things work-related. I therefore hope that Windows continues to be a viable option for blind users. The best possible scenario for us is to have as many options as possible, so that each of us can decide which is the best fit for us and for our immediate needs. The Mac has many things to recommend it. But you all who choose to use it, are in no way superior to anyone else, and you have no right to disdain others who either choose the Windows option, or are willing to point out the Mac's weaknesses. And yes, the Mac does have very definite weaknesses, as does Windows. Why can't we all just be supportive and respectful of one another? I think the thing I find saddest about this whole movement toward the Mac, is the way it seems to polarize everyone. Let's just support each person's right to find what works best for them and be happy about that. Donna -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: vo sl guide is available
could you forward it to me off list at pap...@gmavt.net Thanks in advance. Pete _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of a radix Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: vo sl guide is available Hello if you want the vo getting started guide for sl mail accessibil...@apple.com. I did and got it in a few hours in rt-format on a sunday! Way to go apple! Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MacBook Pro or MacBook
The pro will have the ability to use the video card in ways the mb won't in the soon to be released snow leopard. This information came from a sales rep when I purchased the I phone. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook Thanks Brett, I think i will probably opt for the Pro after more research and talking to a few other people too. Take care James - Original Message - From: Brett Campbell blindinnova...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro or MacBook The pro is thinner, has a SD card slot and a multi touch pad that will come in handy with some of the new features of VoiceOver in Snowleopard. Brett On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, This might sound like a silly question, but which is heavier, the MacBook or the MacBook Pro? I am still unsure which to opt for. I mean the price is a litle more expensive than the macBook but I had a few probems with my 1st generation MacBook. What do you people think of either their MacBooks or MacBook Pros? From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be much to choose between them. Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: IPhone Wows
Have you used one yet? The future of p d a phones is definatly touch screen. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Tsaran Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:29 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone Wows I think IPhone 3GS is a wonderful tool for low vision people -- it is the first truly accessible phone where everything is magnified. I cannot say that I would cash out for IPhone as a blind user though. But I truly appreciate Apple's pushing envelope with technology -- this is something I'd love to see more companies do. Vic On 6/21/2009 10:50 AM, John Denning wrote: My wife who is a high partial has had an iPhone all along. So we got her a new 3GS phone Friday. I've not had a lot of time on it, but have had some. So far I'm impressed also. I need to read some instructions though. I can turn on the Zoom, and invert. But I believe there is a way to easily jump between various settings. Like is there a gesture to switch between inverted and normal? I know how to zoom in and out. Trying to get my employer to spring for the phone since I'm required to have a mobile phone. They one they got me is NOT at all accessible. I can make the text a tiny bit larger is all. So get me this real off the shelf solution. On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: I played with the iPhone that was on display. Wow, ... I was shocked. It felt like a natural use, expecially in Calculator. I love the phone. -- --- I tweet about music and accessibility at http://www.twitter.com/vick08 or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: voice over comes to the I phone
I will have one the nineteenth no matter the carrier. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Reiser Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone They probably won't say anything right now but good sources from there have said they would carry it. We'll just have to see what happens. Mike On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 PM, peter Apgar wrote: Sorry all to be the barer of bad news, I just hung up with VZ sales. Per my discussion VZ will not be carrying the I phone. ATT is still the only company. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wanger Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone Scott, In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity of what you are saying. Apple and att have an exclusive contract. The length of this contract isn't really clear and, in light of some things said yesterday, I am thinking that Apple might look to make some changes at the end of the deal. But, its very well known that these two companies have an exclusive deal in the United States. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Scott Howell wrote: It does work, will work, and blind people will have no problems using the iPhone. I know for fact this is the case and I have gotten Confirmation from a source. Point is, like anything, there may be a learning curve, but it will work and it will be up to you to determine if it fits your needs. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Just waht is off topic here
Motion has been seconded and the vote is being counted. Three yeas . -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tiffany D Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just waht is off topic here Agreed. Those of us who use VoiceOver may not be on all the technology lists and if it's something that benefits us all, I think we should hear about it. On 24/03/2009, Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote: Just what qualifies as off topic and can there by bring down the wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Off Topic: Poll on how to make paper money accessible
Cara, I would urge you to take a more liberal stance in what your requesting. As your post below is it self hypocritical. Previously there was leniency regarding new breakthroughs. Many of these systems are not currently Mac based, however it's never known how they may effect or interact with the future OSX. I have read as many post regarding operation of the new list in the last few weeks as I have pointers. Personally I would make the suggestion that we become more aware of our delete key.I will leave it to your discression weather or not you would like to remove me from the list.I would also like to thank the list members for the information they have bestowed on me. Thanks, Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Off Topic: Poll on how to make paper money accessible Okay, this is getting tiresome. Many of you already know what I'm about to say. smile To those who don't, or whom don't care, yet should, please do close this topic immediately!!! Okay, just so you all know, the next person who deliberately initiates an Off-topic thread here with the exception of John's notes on his weather predicament, -will be banned. I don't care if you put OT in the subject line. That does not make this sort of thing okay! Stop posting things you know are not on topic for this list. smile Unless it's absolutely an emergency / life threatening; if it's off topic, DO NOT POST IT HERE!!! Smiles, Cara :)--- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:20 PM, alena.roberts2...@gmail.com wrote: I am taking a poll on my blog on how to make U.S. paper currency accessible to the blind. In September of last year, a judge ordered the treasury to make the money accessible. As far as I know, there has been no plans to actually change our money. Please visit my blog and vote. The poll will be open until the middle of next month. I plan to blog about the results and send them to national blindness organizations and the treasury department. I think that they need to know what the blind community needs before they make any changes. http://blind-gal.blogspot.com Alena --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
