Re: Pages09
Hello Paul, On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Paul wrote: > I went to the Apple Store and we tried the different > outlining types. My instructor was able to see the numbering but we > couldn't get Voice Over to speak them. Have you been able to get this > working? > No, I can't get VO to read the paragraph numbering but at least I can put it in. I use TextEdit as a verification tool for things like paragraph numbering and the location of tables. When I need to work on a table in Pages, I copy it into Numbers, work on it there, then copy it back to Pages where I haven't yet managed to look at a table. I'll try Barry's trick when I next have to deal with a table in Pages. My situation is that I receive documents in French to translate into English, so I'm not creating documents from scratch. I need to spend a lot more time on Pages and the other iWork09 applications this summer to write a user guide. There's definitely a need for one specifically for VO users as the standard way of doing things frequently doesn't work for us. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Anne. I went to the Apple Store and we tried the different outlining types. My instructor was able to see the numbering but we couldn't get Voice Over to speak them. Have you been able to get this working? On Jun 28, 5:37 am, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Paul, > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote:> I like to create agendas for > meetings. In addition, I like > > to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > > 2.1 2.2. etc. > > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > > > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > > letters and memos. > > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see > and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. > However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it > into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back > again. Messy, but doable. > > > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > > translate into > > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > > facilities. > > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend > time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > > > Finally, are their more templates available forpages09 > > that are not in the template chooser? > > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > > > Do you also use numbers? > > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > Cheers, > > Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Howdy Anne, As much as I would like to, I really can't lay claim to any brilliance. My secret is nothing more the the Pages help. However, thanks for your kind words. Glad I was able to pass something along that was helpful. On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Barry, > > Thank you so much for this explanation. You're brilliant! How do you do it. > I've spent hours on Pages and didn't come up with that. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to >> table". >> >> After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo >> will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is >> there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, >> selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object >> placement radio group. >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: >> >>> Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the >>> column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then >>> convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. >>> Can you provide some step by step procedures? >>> >>> Thanks so much. >>> >>> On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it to an in-line table. On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Paul, > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like >> to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write >> letters and memos. > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't > see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages > documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you > can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, > then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can >> translate into >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge >> facilities. > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 >> that are not in the template chooser? > I don't think so, but you can create your own. >> Do you also use numbers? > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > Cheers, > Anne > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are su
Re: Pages09
Paul, You should be able to find the table in the layout area. Make sure that view > "Show document outline" isn't checked. Hope that helps. On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Paul wrote: > Hello Barry. I created a simple table using tabs as the column > delimiter and the carriage return as the row delimiter. I then > converted the text to the table. I was able to move over the table and > Voice Over said that it was highlighted. I then went into the > inspector checked the wrap radio button and selected the Object float > radio button. The inspector opened but I couldn't read anything. > Suggestions? > > Thanks so much. > > On Jun 29, 11:59 am, Barry Hadder wrote: >> Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to >> table". >> >> After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo >> will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is >> there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, >> selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object >> placement radio group. >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the >>> column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then >>> convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. >>> Can you provide some step by step procedures? >> >>> Thanks so much. >> >>> On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it to an in-line table. >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> > Hello Paul, >> > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like >> to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. >> >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write >> letters and memos. > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't > see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages > documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you > can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, > then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. >> >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can >> translate into >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge >> facilities. > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. >> >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 >> that are not in the template chooser? > I don't think so, but you can create your own. >> >> Do you also use numbers? > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. >> > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. >> > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. >> > Cheers, >> > Anne >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups
Re: Pages09
Hello Barry. I created a simple table using tabs as the column delimiter and the carriage return as the row delimiter. I then converted the text to the table. I was able to move over the table and Voice Over said that it was highlighted. I then went into the inspector checked the wrap radio button and selected the Object float radio button. The inspector opened but I couldn't read anything. Suggestions? Thanks so much. On Jun 29, 11:59 am, Barry Hadder wrote: > Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to > table". > > After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo > will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is > there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, > selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object > placement radio group. > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: > > > > > Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the > > column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then > > convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. > > Can you provide some step by step procedures? > > > Thanks so much. > > > On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other > >> objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are > >> found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text > >> and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line > >> charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert > >> it to an in-line table. > > >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > >>> Hello Paul, > > >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like > to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > 2.1 2.2. etc. > >>> Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > letters and memos. > >>> Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't > >>> see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages > >>> documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you > >>> can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, > >>> then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. > > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > translate into > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > facilities. > >>> Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > >>> spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > > Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > that are not in the template chooser? > >>> I don't think so, but you can create your own. > > Do you also use numbers? > >>> Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > >>> I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > >>> I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> Anne > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Barry, Thank you so much for this explanation. You're brilliant! How do you do it. I've spent hours on Pages and didn't come up with that. Cheers, Anne On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to > table". > > After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo > will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is > there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, > selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object > placement radio group. > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: > >> Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the >> column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then >> convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. >> Can you provide some step by step procedures? >> >> Thanks so much. >> >> On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other >>> objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are >>> found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text >>> and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line >>> charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it >>> to an in-line table. >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello Paul, >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like > to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. >>> > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. >>> > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > translate into > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. >>> > Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. >>> > Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. >>> I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. >>> I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. >>> Cheers, >>> Anne >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to table". After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object placement radio group. On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: > Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the > column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then > convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. > Can you provide some step by step procedures? > > Thanks so much. > > On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: >> I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other >> objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are >> found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text >> and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line >> charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it >> to an in-line table. >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello Paul, >> >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. >>> Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. >>> Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see >>> and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. >>> However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it >>> into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it >>> back again. Messy, but doable. >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. >>> Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to >>> spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? >>> I don't think so, but you can create your own. >> Do you also use numbers? >>> Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. >> >>> I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. >> >>> I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Anne >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. Can you provide some step by step procedures? Thanks so much. On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: > I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other > objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are found > in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text and back > again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line charictors as > rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it to an in-line > table. > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > > > > Hello Paul, > > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like > >> to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > > >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > >> letters and memos. > > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see > > and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. > > However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it > > into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it > > back again. Messy, but doable. > > >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > >> translate into > >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > >> facilities. > > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > > spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > > >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > >> that are not in the template chooser? > > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > > >> Do you also use numbers? > > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > > Cheers, > > > Anne > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it to an in-line table. On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Paul, > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like >> to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write >> letters and memos. > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see > and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. > However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it > into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back > again. Messy, but doable. > >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can >> translate into >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge >> facilities. > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend > time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 >> that are not in the template chooser? > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > >> Do you also use numbers? > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Pages09
Hi, I for one would be happy to pay as it would really help me make the final shift away from windows to Mac for everything that I do which is what I want - I dislike using two systems. Good luck with the task - would offer to help but my french is not good enough to do a translation! Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 28 June 2010 14:08 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages09 Hello Julie, I'm hoping to produce a user guide for iWork09, but it all depends on time. Part of it is already done, but it's in French as France is where I live and teach VoiceOver. I'll let the list know when the guide is available and I think we will have to charge a small fee for it. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, RATTRAY J. wrote: > Hi, > > Are you planning a user guide for iworks? If so will it be > commerically available? I would love such a guide as would like to use > pages etc more > > Julie > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson > Sent: 28 June 2010 11:38 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Pages09 > > Hello Paul, > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write >> legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and >> memos. > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't > see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages > documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, > you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc > there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. > >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge >> facilities. > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not >> in the template chooser? > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > >> Do you also use numbers? > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Julie, I'm hoping to produce a user guide for iWork09, but it all depends on time. Part of it is already done, but it's in French as France is where I live and teach VoiceOver. I'll let the list know when the guide is available and I think we will have to charge a small fee for it. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, RATTRAY J. wrote: > Hi, > > Are you planning a user guide for iworks? If so will it be commerically > available? I would love such a guide as would like to use pages etc more > > Julie > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson > Sent: 28 June 2010 11:38 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Pages09 > > Hello Paul, > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write >> legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and >> memos. > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't > see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages > documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, > you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc > there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. > >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge >> facilities. > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not >> in the template chooser? > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > >> Do you also use numbers? > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Anne. Thanks for your response. I'll play with Pages and numbers a little more. I also am a one to one member and can get help at my local Apple store. My goal is to learn from the trainers while sensitizing them to Voice Over and accessibility in general. If we can share tips and tricks as we go along, then we9'll all learn to use these applications. A user guide would be very helpful and I appreciate the time it takes to write one. Thanks so much. On Jun 28, 5:37 am, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Paul, > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote:> I like to create agendas for > meetings. In addition, I like > > to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > > 2.1 2.2. etc. > > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > > > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > > letters and memos. > > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see > and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. > However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it > into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back > again. Messy, but doable. > > > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > > translate into > > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > > facilities. > > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend > time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > > > Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > > that are not in the template chooser? > > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > > > Do you also use numbers? > > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > Cheers, > > Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Pages09
Hi, Are you planning a user guide for iworks? If so will it be commerically available? I would love such a guide as would like to use pages etc more Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 28 June 2010 11:38 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages09 Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write > legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and > memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not > in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. > Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Paul, On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like > to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > translate into > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. > Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Anne. I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? Do you also use numbers? Thanks so much. On Jun 26, 8:11 am, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Paul, > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > > > am a new Mac user and new to this group. I am transitioning > > from Microsoft office applications to the IWork suite. My goal is to be able > > to do all of my work in the IWork suite but save it in Microsoft compatible > > formats so that I can share it with others. My first step is to deal with > > pages09. Is it accessible with Voice Over? > > Yes, it is accessible with VoiceOver. > > > Is there anything I absolutely > > cannot do with Voice Over? > > You cannot recognise the presence and colour of background highlighting. > However, TextEdit will recognise background colour, so if it's a case of > knowing it's there, TextEdit will solve the problem. > > There are other minor irritations, but on the whole, the iWork09 suite works > well. I use it all the time to work on documents created with MS Office and > to export them to the Office equivalent. > > If you can be more specific about the kinds of documents you need to use, I > should be able to help you. > > Cheers, > > Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Paul, On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > am a new Mac user and new to this group. I am transitioning > from Microsoft office applications to the IWork suite. My goal is to be able > to do all of my work in the IWork suite but save it in Microsoft compatible > formats so that I can share it with others. My first step is to deal with > pages09. Is it accessible with Voice Over? Yes, it is accessible with VoiceOver. > Is there anything I absolutely > cannot do with Voice Over? You cannot recognise the presence and colour of background highlighting. However, TextEdit will recognise background colour, so if it's a case of knowing it's there, TextEdit will solve the problem. There are other minor irritations, but on the whole, the iWork09 suite works well. I use it all the time to work on documents created with MS Office and to export them to the Office equivalent. If you can be more specific about the kinds of documents you need to use, I should be able to help you. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
