Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

How much?


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 16:03, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah cause we don’t already think your smart enough.
 
I thought like petrus that if you deleted from one mac message device it should 
through your imessages / iCloud delete from the other synced devices  e.g. 
delete from my watch deleted also from my iphone and iPad messages app.
 
Hey I’ve got an apple watch if you want to buy one?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 11:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac
 
Hi,
 
I'm not sure.  I haven't got an Apple Watch yet so I'm not totally familiar 
with the interactivity.  Is it supposed to delete the message on the Apple 
Watch, or is it simply supposed to clear it from the Apple Watch display.  I 
will do some research so I can pretend I'm smarter.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 18, 2019, at 15:53, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Tim,
 
I have 
 Messages enabled on my phone within iCloud  and I believe on my watch but will 
have to check that when have more time,
 
Why then do messages deleted from my watch not sync back to deleted from my 
iPhone?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac
 
Hi,
 
Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled. 
 It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to that on the 
page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to have Messages 
in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the Messages app 
itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, iCloud on iOS 
and iPadOS devices.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my 
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text 
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
the phone. 
n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:


 
Hi,
 
All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages 
on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone 
phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned though, the 
caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, if you have 
an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and connected to 
the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  That is, you 
can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  
If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an extended length of 
time, they will not sync the messages that they missed while they were off-line 
for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part 
of the Continuity feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is 
handled through the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in 
iCloud which fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this 
makes some sort of sense.
 
Continuity is explained HERE .  There 
are various services within the Continuity feature set such as Hand-Off, 
Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All require you to be 
logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or may not require 
Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.
 
Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they 
do not sync.

Dave Carlson
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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah cause we don’t already think your smart enough.

I thought like petrus that if you deleted from one mac message device it should 
through your imessages / iCloud delete from the other synced devices  e.g. 
delete from my watch deleted also from my iphone and iPad messages app.

Hey I’ve got an apple watch if you want to buy one?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 11:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Hi,

I'm not sure.  I haven't got an Apple Watch yet so I'm not totally familiar 
with the interactivity.  Is it supposed to delete the message on the Apple 
Watch, or is it simply supposed to clear it from the Apple Watch display.  I 
will do some research so I can pretend I'm smarter.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 15:53, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

I have
 Messages enabled on my phone within iCloud  and I believe on my watch but will 
have to check that when have more time,

Why then do messages deleted from my watch not sync back to deleted from my 
iPhone?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Hi,

Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled. 
 It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to that on the 
page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to have Messages 
in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the Messages app 
itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, iCloud on iOS 
and iPadOS devices.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my 
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text 
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
the phone.
n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:



Hi,

All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages 
on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone 
phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned though, the 
caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, if you have 
an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and connected to 
the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  That is, you 
can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  
If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an extended length of 
time, they will not sync the messages that they missed while they were off-line 
for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part 
of the Continuity feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is 
handled through the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in 
iCloud which fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this 
makes some sort of sense.

Continuity is explained HERE.  There 
are various services within the Continuity feature set such as Hand-Off, 
Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All require you to be 
logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or may not require 
Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they 
do not sync.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian





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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I'm not sure.  I haven't got an Apple Watch yet so I'm not totally familiar 
with the interactivity.  Is it supposed to delete the message on the Apple 
Watch, or is it simply supposed to clear it from the Apple Watch display.  I 
will do some research so I can pretend I'm smarter.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 15:53, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
I have 
 Messages enabled on my phone within iCloud  and I believe on my watch but will 
have to check that when have more time,
 
Why then do messages deleted from my watch not sync back to deleted from my 
iPhone?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac
 
Hi,
 
Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled. 
 It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to that on the 
page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to have Messages 
in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the Messages app 
itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, iCloud on iOS 
and iPadOS devices.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my 
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text 
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
the phone. 
n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

 
Hi,
 
All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages 
on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone 
phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned though, the 
caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, if you have 
an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and connected to 
the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  That is, you 
can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  
If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an extended length of 
time, they will not sync the messages that they missed while they were off-line 
for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part 
of the Continuity feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is 
handled through the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in 
iCloud which fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this 
makes some sort of sense.
 
Continuity is explained HERE .  There 
are various services within the Continuity feature set such as Hand-Off, 
Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All require you to be 
logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or may not require 
Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.
 
Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they 
do not sync.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

I have
 Messages enabled on my phone within iCloud  and I believe on my watch but will 
have to check that when have more time,

Why then do messages deleted from my watch not sync back to deleted from my 
iPhone?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Hi,

Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled. 
 It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to that on the 
page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to have Messages 
in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the Messages app 
itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, iCloud on iOS 
and iPadOS devices.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my 
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text 
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
the phone.
n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


Hi,

All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages 
on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone 
phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned though, the 
caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, if you have 
an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and connected to 
the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  That is, you 
can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  
If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an extended length of 
time, they will not sync the messages that they missed while they were off-line 
for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part 
of the Continuity feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is 
handled through the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in 
iCloud which fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this 
makes some sort of sense.

Continuity is explained HERE.  There 
are various services within the Continuity feature set such as Hand-Off, 
Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All require you to be 
logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or may not require 
Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they 
do not sync.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian





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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

I also get a situation on my watch that some of the apps on the screen don’t 
speak what the name of the app is.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 1:36 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Hi!
Strange.
It updates here but not sure what i am doing to make this happen.
/A


18 nov. 2019 kl. 00:04 skrev Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>:

Yerah I mentioned this a month or so back and still haven’t found a solution,

As you say it’s working fine with emails even from my watch / phone / computer 
everything syncs fine deleting or arriving etc.

But messages don’t want to update sync automatically like you’d think they 
would.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

You think there would be, as if I delete an email on my phone it’s gone from my 
Mac and the other way as well. You’d think it would work on the messages ap. I 
know someone was asking about this very thing a while ago and can’t remember if 
they came up with a solution.



On 18/11/2019, at 10:20, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I wondered about this as well.

I have the same problem with my iphone and my watch etc.

If I delete a message from my watch it stays on my phone.

And same with iPad and phone etc
There is no sync between the devices.


From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on the 
phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this.




On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Petrus,

You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you 
tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to 
non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether 
the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for the 
prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had done it 
a long time ago.

Good luck

Andrew
On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t 
got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same 
friend with my Mac and she never received it.
Thanks for any advice,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Good job.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 13:06, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Thanks, I checked again in the messages app on the Mac in the preferences and 
checked the iCloud setting and now I just deleted an iMessage on my phone and 
it vanished from my Mac as well. So I think I have it by Jove

> On 19/11/2019, at 08:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud 
> enabled.  It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to 
> that on the page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to 
> have Messages in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the 
> Messages app itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, 
> iCloud on iOS and iPadOS devices.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing 
> my messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a 
> Text message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
> deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
> off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
> the phone. 
> n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
>> must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, 
>> Messages on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your 
>> iPhone phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned 
>> though, the caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for 
>> example, if you have an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all 
>> turned on and connected to the same WiFi network, then syncing between 
>> devices will occur.  That is, you can send an SMS from your Mac using the 
>> SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  If the Mac or iPad are powered down 
>> or not connected for an extended length of time, they will not sync the 
>> messages that they missed while they were off-line for that time.  That's 
>> where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part of the Continuity 
>> feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is handled through 
>> the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in iCloud which 
>> fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this makes some 
>> sort of sense.
>> 
>> Continuity is explained HERE .  
>> There are various services within the Continuity feature set such as 
>> Hand-Off, Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All 
>> require you to be logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or 
>> may not require Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>> If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
>> work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, 
>> they do not sync.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks, I checked again in the messages app on the Mac in the preferences and 
checked the iCloud setting and now I just deleted an iMessage on my phone and 
it vanished from my Mac as well. So I think I have it by Jove

> On 19/11/2019, at 08:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud 
> enabled.  It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to 
> that on the page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to 
> have Messages in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the 
> Messages app itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, 
> iCloud on iOS and iPadOS devices.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing 
> my messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a 
> Text message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
> deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
> off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
> the phone. 
> n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
>> must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, 
>> Messages on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your 
>> iPhone phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned 
>> though, the caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for 
>> example, if you have an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all 
>> turned on and connected to the same WiFi network, then syncing between 
>> devices will occur.  That is, you can send an SMS from your Mac using the 
>> SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  If the Mac or iPad are powered down 
>> or not connected for an extended length of time, they will not sync the 
>> messages that they missed while they were off-line for that time.  That's 
>> where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part of the Continuity 
>> feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is handled through 
>> the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in iCloud which 
>> fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this makes some 
>> sort of sense.
>> 
>> Continuity is explained HERE .  
>> There are various services within the Continuity feature set such as 
>> Hand-Off, Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All 
>> require you to be logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or 
>> may not require Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
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>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>> If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
>> work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, 
>> they do not sync.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks Tim, 
I’m sure I have all of those selected, but it’s not a big deal. 
Thanks again,

> On 19/11/2019, at 08:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
> I suspect that iCloud would be necessary for deletions to show up. For 
> example, my iPad mini uses an old iOS that pre-dates messaging using iCloud. 
> Messages never delete on the iPad when deleted from my Mac or iPhone 8. They 
> either need to expire on their own, or be deleted manually. Also that old iOS 
> allowed for multiple message deletions and did not do that irritating 
> confirmation “Are you Sure?” when deleting, as when iCloud is involved.
> Are your devices all using iCloud for text messages?
> 
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> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled. 
 It would need to be enabled on all devices.  There was links to that on the 
page I linked in my previous note.  Basically though, you need to have Messages 
in iCloud enabled on all devices.  On your Mac, that's in the Messages app 
itself, in its Preferences, whereas it's in Settings, Your Name, iCloud on iOS 
and iPadOS devices.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:30, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my 
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text 
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
the phone. 
n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
> must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, 
> Messages on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your 
> iPhone phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned 
> though, the caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, 
> if you have an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and 
> connected to the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  
> That is, you can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of 
> your iPhone.  If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an 
> extended length of time, they will not sync the messages that they missed 
> while they were off-line for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes 
> into play.  It's all part of the Continuity feature set of the Apple 
> ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is handled through the Continuity feature set, 
> but full syncing uses Messages in iCloud which fills in the gaps when 
> connectivity was not present.  I hope this makes some sort of sense.
> 
> Continuity is explained HERE .  
> There are various services within the Continuity feature set such as 
> Hand-Off, Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All 
> require you to be logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or 
> may not require Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
> work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, 
> they do not sync.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Petrus,
I suspect that iCloud would be necessary for deletions to show up. For example, 
my iPad mini uses an old iOS that pre-dates messaging using iCloud. Messages 
never delete on the iPad when deleted from my Mac or iPhone 8. They either need 
to expire on their own, or be deleted manually. Also that old iOS allowed for 
multiple message deletions and did not do that irritating confirmation “Are you 
Sure?” when deleting, as when iCloud is involved.
Are your devices all using iCloud for text messages?

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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my 
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text 
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the 
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a couple of messages 
off my Mac, one iMessage and regular text message and they are both still on 
the phone. 
n 19/11/2019, at 06:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
> must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, 
> Messages on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your 
> iPhone phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned 
> though, the caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, 
> if you have an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and 
> connected to the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  
> That is, you can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of 
> your iPhone.  If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an 
> extended length of time, they will not sync the messages that they missed 
> while they were off-line for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes 
> into play.  It's all part of the Continuity feature set of the Apple 
> ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is handled through the Continuity feature set, 
> but full syncing uses Messages in iCloud which fills in the gaps when 
> connectivity was not present.  I hope this makes some sort of sense.
> 
> Continuity is explained HERE .  
> There are various services within the Continuity feature set such as 
> Hand-Off, Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All 
> require you to be logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or 
> may not require Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
> work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, 
> they do not sync.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone 
must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages 
on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone 
phone number as the default "send From" address.  As I mentioned though, the 
caveat here has to do with device connectivity.  So, for example, if you have 
an iPad, a Mac and an iPhone, and if they are all turned on and connected to 
the same WiFi network, then syncing between devices will occur.  That is, you 
can send an SMS from your Mac using the SMS  cellular service of your iPhone.  
If the Mac or iPad are powered down or not connected for an extended length of 
time, they will not sync the messages that they missed while they were off-line 
for that time.  That's where syncing in iCloud comes into play.  It's all part 
of the Continuity feature set of the Apple ecosystem.  So, basic syncing is 
handled through the Continuity feature set, but full syncing uses Messages in 
iCloud which fills in the gaps when connectivity was not present.  I hope this 
makes some sort of sense.

Continuity is explained HERE .  There 
are various services within the Continuity feature set such as Hand-Off, 
Continuity Clipboard, SMS and Phone forwarding and more.  All require you to be 
logged in with the same Apple ID to iCloud, others may or may not require 
Bluetooth.  Most is explained in the link I shared.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they 
do not sync.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian





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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync 
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they 
do not sync.

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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Enabling Messages in iCloud is not essential for syncing of Messages across 
devices, nor is it essential for being able to send SMS messages from your Mac. 
 Yes, it does make your life easier as all messages are stored in iCloud when 
this is checked which allows for syncing of message threads when one or more 
devices are incommunicado for extended lengths of time.  The actual process of 
sending SMS messages from your Mac does not specifically require the Messages 
in iCloud to be enabled though.

Later...


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On Nov 17, 2019, at 19:24, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Seems as that as messages are now stored in iCloud, you need to make sure that 
on all your devices you have messages selected in the iCloud settings.
My iMessages and SMS messages all sync on my phone and Mac.

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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!Strange.It updates here but not sure what i am doing to make this happen./A18 nov. 2019 kl. 00:04 skrev Simon A Fogarty :Yerah I mentioned this a month or so back and still haven’t found a solution, As you say it’s working fine with emails even from my watch / phone / computer everything syncs fine deleting or arriving etc. But messages don’t want to update sync automatically like you’d think they would. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Petrus TuerlingsSent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:11 AMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac You think there would be, as if I delete an email on my phone it’s gone from my Mac and the other way as well. You’d think it would work on the messages ap. I know someone was asking about this very thing a while ago and can’t remember if they came up with a solution.On 18/11/2019, at 10:20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote: Hi Petrus, I wondered about this as well. I have the same problem with my iphone and my watch etc. If I delete a message from my watch it stays on my phone. And same with iPad and phone etcThere is no sync between the devices.  From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus TuerlingsSent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:42 AMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on the phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this. On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  wrote: Petrus, You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for the prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had done it a long time ago. Good luck AndrewOn 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote: Hi all,I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. Thanks for any advice,Petrus Sent from Petrus' MacBook   -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.eduand your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F035BAEA-F87C-453C-8883-4BBC21A01F23%40gmail.com.  -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/18E5BD35-E76C-4839-BE19-B253D63EE0C0%40me.com. Sent from Petrus' MacBook  -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's 

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Seems as that as messages are now stored in iCloud, you need to make sure that 
on all your devices you have messages selected in the iCloud settings.
My iMessages and SMS messages all sync on my phone and Mac.

Dave Carlson
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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah but why not,

It’s all coming out of the same service / system
Why does it not automatically update synced messages.

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:29 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

I don’t think this works at all. There’s no automatic delete on any devices if 
you delete something on one device.  SAd.
On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:42, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on the 
phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this.


On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Petrus,

You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you 
tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to 
non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether 
the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for the 
prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had done it 
a long time ago.

Good luck

Andrew
On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t 
got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same 
friend with my Mac and she never received it.
Thanks for any advice,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yerah I mentioned this a month or so back and still haven’t found a solution,

As you say it’s working fine with emails even from my watch / phone / computer 
everything syncs fine deleting or arriving etc.

But messages don’t want to update sync automatically like you’d think they 
would.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

You think there would be, as if I delete an email on my phone it’s gone from my 
Mac and the other way as well. You’d think it would work on the messages ap. I 
know someone was asking about this very thing a while ago and can’t remember if 
they came up with a solution.


On 18/11/2019, at 10:20, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I wondered about this as well.

I have the same problem with my iphone and my watch etc.

If I delete a message from my watch it stays on my phone.

And same with iPad and phone etc
There is no sync between the devices.


From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on the 
phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this.



On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Petrus,

You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you 
tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to 
non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether 
the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for the 
prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had done it 
a long time ago.

Good luck

Andrew
On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t 
got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same 
friend with my Mac and she never received it.
Thanks for any advice,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, didn’t think non iMessages came through.
Must check my settings as that’s probabl;y I’m not getting them.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Nope, now I’m receiving all messages in the messages app on the Mac regardless 
of weather weather they are iMessages or text messages.


On 18/11/2019, at 10:11, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I was under the impression that only iMessages came through to other apple 
devices
Standard text messages I didn’t think worked through that message platform.

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2019 9:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Hi all,
I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t 
got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same 
friend with my Mac and she never received it.
Thanks for any advice,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

I don’t think this works at all. There’s no automatic delete on any devices if 
you delete something on one device.  SAd.
> On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:42, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
> correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
> receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
> phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on 
> the phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this. 
> 
>> On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Petrus,
>> 
>> You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where 
>> you tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms 
>> message to non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your 
>> mac to tether the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and 
>> wait for the prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events 
>> as I had done it a long time ago.
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. 
>>> I’ only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even 
>>> when I have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but 
>>> just noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend 
>>> that hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried 
>>> texting the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. 
>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Petrus Tuerlings]

You think there would be, as if I delete an email on my phone it’s gone from my 
Mac and the other way as well. You’d think it would work on the messages ap. I 
know someone was asking about this very thing a while ago and can’t remember if 
they came up with a solution.

> On 18/11/2019, at 10:20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
>  
> I wondered about this as well.
>  
> I have the same problem with my iphone and my watch etc.
>  
> If I delete a message from my watch it stays on my phone.
>  
> And same with iPad and phone etc
> There is no sync between the devices.
>  
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:42 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac
>  
> Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
> correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
> receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
> phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on 
> the phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this. 
> 
> 
> On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Petrus,
>  
> You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where 
> you tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message 
> to non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to 
> tether the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for 
> the prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had 
> done it a long time ago.
>  
> Good luck
>  
> Andrew
> On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
> only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
> have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
> noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that 
> hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting 
> the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. 
> Thanks for any advice,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Nope, now I’m receiving all messages in the messages app on the Mac regardless 
of weather weather they are iMessages or text messages. 

> On 18/11/2019, at 10:11, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi Petrus,
>  
> I was under the impression that only iMessages came through to other apple 
> devices
> Standard text messages I didn’t think worked through that message platform.
>  
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>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2019 9:49 PM
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> Subject: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac
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> Hi all,
> I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
> only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
> have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
> noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that 
> hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting 
> the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. 
> Thanks for any advice,
> Petrus 
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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Petrus,

I wondered about this as well.

I have the same problem with my iphone and my watch etc.

If I delete a message from my watch it stays on my phone.

And same with iPad and phone etc
There is no sync between the devices.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on the 
phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this.


On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Petrus,

You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you 
tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to 
non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether 
the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for the 
prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had done it 
a long time ago.

Good luck

Andrew
On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t 
got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same 
friend with my Mac and she never received it.
Thanks for any advice,
Petrus
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RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Petrus,

I was under the impression that only iMessages came through to other apple 
devices
Standard text messages I didn’t think worked through that message platform.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2019 9:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

Hi all,
I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that hasn’t 
got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting the same 
friend with my Mac and she never received it.
Thanks for any advice,
Petrus
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working 
correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and 
receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the 
phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac it stays on the 
phone. I haven’t had any luck fixing this. 

> On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Petrus,
> 
> You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where 
> you tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message 
> to non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to 
> tether the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for 
> the prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had 
> done it a long time ago.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andrew
>> On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
>> only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
>> have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
>> noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that 
>> hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting 
>> the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. 
>> Thanks for any advice,
>> Petrus 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

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Hi, 
It seems to be working now, and I didn’t have to enter any codes on the Mac 
side of things.
Thanks again,
Petrus 

> On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Petrus,
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> You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where 
> you tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message 
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> tether the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for 
> the prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had 
> done it a long time ago.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andrew
>> On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
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>> I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
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>> have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
>> noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that 
>> hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting 
>> the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. 
>> Thanks for any advice,
>> Petrus 
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

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Thank you Andrew, I just checked that and my messages settings on my iPhone. I 
already put my Mac away for the night, but will see if it prompts me to do 
anything in the morning. Thank you again

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

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Petrus,

You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you 
tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to 
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Good luck

Andrew
> On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that 
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> Thanks for any advice,
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Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

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Petrus,

You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you 
tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to 
non-iPhone users.  There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether 
the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac open and wait for the 
prompt.  I can’t quite remember now the exact chain of events as I had done it 
a long time ago.

Good luck

Andrew
> On 17 Nov 2019, at 08:49, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ 
> only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I 
> have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just 
> noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from  a friend that 
> hasn’t got an iPhone. And she replied with the Mac as well. I tried texting 
> the same friend with my Mac and she never received it. 
> Thanks for any advice,
> Petrus 
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