Re: AirPods 2nd Gen question

[Jessica Moss]

I have the AirPods second gen’s as well, )not the pro’s) and have noticed that 
sometimes the widget will display the cases battery life on my phone, and 
sometimes it won’t.

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:25 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The widget on the Iphone should tell you about the case too.
> It does on my Iphone 15 Pro max with iOS 17.4 beta.
> But I have the AirPods Pro 2nd gen so it may be a difference in how things 
> show up.
> /A
> 
>> 2 feb. 2024 kl. 18:09 skrev mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Dear List,
>> I am late jumping on the AirPods  band wagon.
>> I have a question, How can I tell if the case is charged?
>> This is the case with the Lightning port.
>> My iPhone 14 battery widget says the AirPods are at 95% charged.
>> What about left ear charge or right ear charge?
>> Last Night I had trouble connecting the AirPods to my iPhone 14 for the 
>> first time.
>> Holding the case next to the phone and opening the lid brought up  the 
>> connect screen, but every time  I hit connect I get error connection failed. 
>> And in bluetooth settings, tapping on AirPods got error, pairing failed.
>> After choosing to forget device, I held the button on the case for 5 seconds 
>> and finally  got it to pair.
>> My second question is what holder do you suggest for making sure the AirPods 
>> does not fall out of the ears?
>> It is a loop that fits around the ear and holds the AirPods.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Re: AirPods 2nd Gen question

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
The widget on the Iphone should tell you about the case too.
It does on my Iphone 15 Pro max with iOS 17.4 beta.
But I have the AirPods Pro 2nd gen so it may be a difference in how things show 
up.
/A

> 2 feb. 2024 kl. 18:09 skrev mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Dear List,
> I am late jumping on the AirPods  band wagon.
> I have a question, How can I tell if the case is charged?
> This is the case with the Lightning port.
> My iPhone 14 battery widget says the AirPods are at 95% charged.
> What about left ear charge or right ear charge?
> Last Night I had trouble connecting the AirPods to my iPhone 14 for the first 
> time.
> Holding the case next to the phone and opening the lid brought up  the 
> connect screen, but every time  I hit connect I get error connection failed. 
> And in bluetooth settings, tapping on AirPods got error, pairing failed.
> After choosing to forget device, I held the button on the case for 5 seconds 
> and finally  got it to pair.
> My second question is what holder do you suggest for making sure the AirPods 
> does not fall out of the ears?
> It is a loop that fits around the ear and holds the AirPods.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
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Re: AirPods max

[joseph hudson]

Oh that's cool, well I did try my lightning to USB cable, by hooking it up to 
my android. And it did not work. And OK. I'll have to look at some of those 
Apple support pages.

> On May 3, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph, I’m not sure about the USB-C to lightning cable, actually I don’t 
> think it will do the job. I found out about the bi directional audio cable by 
> looking through the AirPods Max literature and Apple support. Otherwise I 
> never would’ve known about it. A Anders, I guess they hurt my ears is the 
> reason why I don’t like wearing phones they seem to press on my earlobes and 
> just the feeling of having a compression on my head bothers me over the long 
> term. Although, I’m willing to give it a shot and see if I can use them 
> long-term because in my environment a noise canceling headphones may come in 
> handy during the summer months if you know what I mean.  Anyway the audio 
> cable will help me plug-in to my guitar amplifier and listen to my playing 
> without any external sound. Plus the tinniness of the little hand sized 
> amplifier going through a nice set of your phones will probably make it much 
> more interesting that’s why I want the audio cable. I’m hoping it works well 
> and I assume it will. 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 4:14 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well if you don’t like wearing headphones then I really understand why you 
>> don’t like wearing them to long.
>> I admit that they are quite heavy and if I  was made of money I would rather 
>> buy the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95.
>> The cable is pretty steep for a cable.
>> I have it and its a thin long cable which I never would have bought if I 
>> hadn’t got some Christmas money for them.
>> Just curious?
>> Why don’t you like headphones?
>> Bless!
>> /A
>> 
>>> 3 maj 2022 kl. 04:06 skrev Phil Halton :
>>> 
>>> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
>>> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
>>> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
>>> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
>>> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
>>> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability 
>>> to convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment 
>>> that has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by 
>>> directional audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth 
>>> transmitter to get around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the 
>>> latency issue was a dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the 
>>> difference. I’m using them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so 
>>> the latency issue is critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the 
>>> direct wired headset into the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard 
>>> to justify the price but if this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll 
>>> get back with any updates if I find anything new about these. As it stands 
>>> they’re looking pretty good. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: AirPods Max

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Happy listening mate!
Its amazing how they sound.
/A

> 8 maj 2022 kl. 00:42 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
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> Hi all,
> 
> All I can say is wow!! Just picked up my new AirPods Max and I have to 
> say you guys are all right. I have never owned such amazing headphones. 
> Didn’t have too long to listen, but gave the 1812 overture a quick play, and 
> boy was it fun!
> Thanks for all the feedback and the recommendations.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: AirPods Max

[Herbie Allen]

You are most welcome!

> On May 7, 2022, at 17:42, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> All I can say is wow!! Just picked up my new AirPods Max and I have to 
> say you guys are all right. I have never owned such amazing headphones. 
> Didn’t have too long to listen, but gave the 1812 overture a quick play, and 
> boy was it fun!
> Thanks for all the feedback and the recommendations.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: AirPods max

[Phil Halton]

Hi Joseph, I’m not sure about the USB-C to lightning cable, actually I don’t 
think it will do the job. I found out about the bi directional audio cable by 
looking through the AirPods Max literature and Apple support. Otherwise I never 
would’ve known about it. A Anders, I guess they hurt my ears is the reason why 
I don’t like wearing phones they seem to press on my earlobes and just the 
feeling of having a compression on my head bothers me over the long term. 
Although, I’m willing to give it a shot and see if I can use them long-term 
because in my environment a noise canceling headphones may come in handy during 
the summer months if you know what I mean.  Anyway the audio cable will help me 
plug-in to my guitar amplifier and listen to my playing without any external 
sound. Plus the tinniness of the little hand sized amplifier going through a 
nice set of your phones will probably make it much more interesting that’s why 
I want the audio cable. I’m hoping it works well and I assume it will. 

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 3, 2022, at 4:14 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well if you don’t like wearing headphones then I really understand why you 
> don’t like wearing them to long.
> I admit that they are quite heavy and if I  was made of money I would rather 
> buy the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95.
> The cable is pretty steep for a cable.
> I have it and its a thin long cable which I never would have bought if I 
> hadn’t got some Christmas money for them.
> Just curious?
> Why don’t you like headphones?
> Bless!
> /A
> 
>> 3 maj 2022 kl. 04:06 skrev Phil Halton :
>> 
>> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
>> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
>> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
>> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
>> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
>> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability to 
>> convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment 
>> that has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by 
>> directional audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth 
>> transmitter to get around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the 
>> latency issue was a dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the 
>> difference. I’m using them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so 
>> the latency issue is critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the 
>> direct wired headset into the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard 
>> to justify the price but if this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll get 
>> back with any updates if I find anything new about these. As it stands 
>> they’re looking pretty good. 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: AirPods max

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well if you don’t like wearing headphones then I really understand why you 
don’t like wearing them to long.
I admit that they are quite heavy and if I  was made of money I would rather 
buy the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95.
The cable is pretty steep for a cable.
I have it and its a thin long cable which I never would have bought if I hadn’t 
got some Christmas money for them.
Just curious?
Why don’t you like headphones?
Bless!
/A

> 3 maj 2022 kl. 04:06 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability to 
> convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment that 
> has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by directional 
> audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth transmitter to get 
> around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the latency issue was a 
> dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the difference. I’m using 
> them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so the latency issue is 
> critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the direct wired headset into 
> the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard to justify the price but if 
> this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll get back with any updates if I 
> find anything new about these. As it stands they’re looking pretty good. 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: AirPods max

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Phil, that is awesome. I didn’t know they made it lightning to 3.5 mm a 
doctor. This is quite interesting. I will definitely have to look into this. 
Especially if I get something that doesn’t take a USB-C to lightning adapter. 
Is that the only cable I have them or I would like to look and see if I could 
make them connect to my android phone. As my android phone is a USB-C. And it’s 
not worth trying to pair them via Bluetooth. I should definitely try that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I bought a pair of AirPods max today just to try them out. Got 14 days to 
> return if they don’t work out. Anyway, kind of pricey but they look really 
> good and the audio quality is very high. Like all headphones, they’re a 
> little uncomfortable to wear long term, but maybe that’s just me, I don’t 
> like wearing headphones of any kind. As they go these are about as 
> comfortable as they can get. The one feature I really like is the ability to 
> convert them to a wired headset so they can be used with older equipment that 
> has 3.5 mm output jacks. Especial cable lightning to 3.5 mm by directional 
> audio cable makes it possible. I tried to use a Bluetooth transmitter to get 
> around the problem of wired versus wireless, but the latency issue was a 
> dealbreaker. This audio cable should really make the difference. I’m using 
> them to hear myself playing a musical instrument, so the latency issue is 
> critical. As I said though I’m expecting that the direct wired headset into 
> the amplifier will overcomes the issue. It’s hard to justify the price but if 
> this works out I’ll probably keep them. I’ll get back with any updates if I 
> find anything new about these. As it stands they’re looking pretty good. 
> 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

>From an Apple ecosystem prospective, they are a very nice sounding, easy to 
>use, reliable set of headphones.  Apple will tout all sorts of benefits and 
>such, but it is a personal use case and personal preference purchase.  I do 
>like the options that they offer including easy integration with my Apple 
>devices and Apple ID, the Find My integration, great configurable audio range, 
>good noise cancellation and great transparency configuration.  They certainly 
>are not perfect, and are not cheap from a financial point of view, but I 
>believe that they are an excellent product.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 9:42 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I don’t know an AirPods Pro owner.
> 
> I’m doing my best in getting detailed user experiences to shape my opinion 
> about it. It works with me most of the time as long as I make sure that I’m 
> specific about features I want and find enough resources that are not biased 
> to assess the quality.
> 
> Hope me good luck with it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed  
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:52 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Muhammad,
>> 
>> I’m not a fan of high base either.  I also completely understand you wanting 
>> to make sure you’ll use them.  Do you know anyone who has a pair?  Perhaps 
>> they could let you listen to theirs?  I often find that’s the best way to 
>> evaluate things like headphones, where personal preference plays such an 
>> important role.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Muhammad Fayed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, you’re right.
>>> 
>>> I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to 
>>> extract as much info as I can. 
>>> 
>>> According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I 
>>> actually don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me 
>>> headache during 5 or 10 minutes.
>>> 
>>> I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and 
>>> not sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its 
>>> technology is mature enough to rely on in my case.
>>> 
>>> Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will 
>>> change many decisions in my life and work environment.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
 On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Mohamed,
 
 Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
 element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
 level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your 
 colleagues are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to 
 increase it by more than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by 
 how well the noise cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they 
 are in the ear headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit 
 them properly to your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you so much for your replies. 
> 
> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing 
> on the AirPods Pro?
> 
> Thank you so much, 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
>> them.
>> 
>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform 
>> quite well, in my opinion.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
>>> the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within 
>>> the Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The 

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Unfortunately I don’t know an AirPods Pro owner.

I’m doing my best in getting detailed user experiences to shape my opinion 
about it. It works with me most of the time as long as I make sure that I’m 
specific about features I want and find enough resources that are not biased to 
assess the quality.

Hope me good luck with it.

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed  

> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:52 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Muhammad,
> 
> I’m not a fan of high base either.  I also completely understand you wanting 
> to make sure you’ll use them.  Do you know anyone who has a pair?  Perhaps 
> they could let you listen to theirs?  I often find that’s the best way to 
> evaluate things like headphones, where personal preference plays such an 
> important role.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, you’re right.
>> 
>> I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to 
>> extract as much info as I can. 
>> 
>> According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I 
>> actually don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me 
>> headache during 5 or 10 minutes.
>> 
>> I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and not 
>> sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its 
>> technology is mature enough to rely on in my case.
>> 
>> Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will 
>> change many decisions in my life and work environment.
>> 
>> Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mohamed,
>>> 
>>> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
>>> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
>>> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues 
>>> are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by 
>>> more than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the 
>>> noise cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear 
>>> headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to 
>>> your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed >>> > wrote:
 
 
 Thank you so much for your replies. 
 
 My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
 transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
 time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
 need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing 
 on the AirPods Pro?
 
 Thank you so much, 
 
 Regards,
 
 Mohamed E. Fayed 
 
 
> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
> them.
> 
> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform 
> quite well, in my opinion.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
>> the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within 
>> the Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode 
>> does quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” 
>> headset, they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have 
>> primarily used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to 
>> be cognizant of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure 
>> that I could give you an accurate example when using them in Noise 
>> Cancellation mode.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? 
>>> Please give me use cases as examples.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. 

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Muhammad,

I’m not a fan of high base either.  I also completely understand you wanting to 
make sure you’ll use them.  Do you know anyone who has a pair?  Perhaps they 
could let you listen to theirs?  I often find that’s the best way to evaluate 
things like headphones, where personal preference plays such an important role.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, you’re right.
> 
> I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to 
> extract as much info as I can. 
> 
> According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I 
> actually don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me 
> headache during 5 or 10 minutes.
> 
> I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and not 
> sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its 
> technology is mature enough to rely on in my case.
> 
> Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will 
> change many decisions in my life and work environment.
> 
> Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mohamed,
>> 
>> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
>> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
>> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues 
>> are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by 
>> more than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the noise 
>> cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear 
>> headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to 
>> your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for your replies. 
>>> 
>>> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
>>> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
>>> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
>>> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing 
>>> on the AirPods Pro?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much, 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
 them.
 
 I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
 perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
 well, in my opinion.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
> the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within 
> the Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode 
> does quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” 
> headset, they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have 
> primarily used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to 
> be cognizant of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure 
> that I could give you an accurate example when using them in Noise 
> Cancellation mode.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? 
>> Please give me use cases as examples.
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
>>> are much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable 
>>> to wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
>>> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
>>> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either 
>>> on the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds 

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Yes, you’re right.

I would ask this question also to anyone who has AirPods Pro and try to extract 
as much info as I can. 

According to me, I prefer the quiet areas and low levels of volume. I actually 
don’t like high levels of base in whatever I hear. They do make me headache 
during 5 or 10 minutes.

I do ask a lot about it since I want to make sure that I will use it and not 
sell it a day or two after getting it. I want to make sure that its technology 
is mature enough to rely on in my case.

Just hope I could find a good solution as near as possible since it will change 
many decisions in my life and work environment.

Thank you so much for your replies. They were useful to me. 

Best,

Mohamed E. Fayed 

> On 14 Oct 2021, at 2:27 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mohamed,
> 
> Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
> element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise 
> level of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues 
> are speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by more 
> than a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the noise 
> cancellation on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear 
> headphones.  But if you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to 
> your ears, as doing that makes a difference.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you so much for your replies. 
>> 
>> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
>> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
>> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
>> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing on 
>> the AirPods Pro?
>> 
>> Thank you so much, 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using 
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
>>> well, in my opinion.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
 Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via 
 the built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
 Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
 quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, 
 they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily 
 used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be 
 cognizant of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I 
 could give you an accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation 
 mode.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  > wrote:
> 
> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? 
> Please give me use cases as examples.
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
>> are much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable 
>> to wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
>> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
>> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either 
>> on the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
>>> delay small enough that 

Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mohamed,

Interesting question. This is just a guess, because of course there is an 
element of subjectivity here, e.g. your preferred volume level, the noise level 
of the vehicle on which you are traveling, how loudly your colleagues are 
speaking, etc. But I wouldn’t think you would have to increase it by more than 
a level or two.  Honestly, I’m always amazed by how well the noise cancellation 
on the Airpods does work, given that they are in the ear headphones.  But if 
you get them, do take the time to fit them properly to your ears, as doing that 
makes a difference.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you so much for your replies. 
> 
> My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
> transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work 
> time. I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you 
> need to increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing on 
> the AirPods Pro?
> 
> Thank you so much, 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using them.
>> 
>> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
>> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
>> well, in my opinion.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
>>> built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
>>> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
>>> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, 
>>> they will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily 
>>> used them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant 
>>> of other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give 
>>> you an accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
 
 Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? 
 Please give me use cases as examples.
 
 Thank you so much,
 
 Best,
 
 Mohamed E. Fayed 
 
> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
> are much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable 
> to wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on 
> the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>> 
>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
>> delay small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you 
>> can navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good 
>> for work when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Thank you so much for your replies. 

My use case for it is to hear whatever podcast/videos while being in 
transportation and cancel the audio of colleagues near me talking in work time. 
I wonder how many audio levels, while noise cancellation is on, you need to 
increase to be able to hear either Voiceover or a podcast playing on the 
AirPods Pro?

Thank you so much, 

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed 


> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:28 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using them.
> 
> I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
> perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
> well, in my opinion.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
>> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
>> built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
>> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
>> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, they 
>> will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily used 
>> them in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant of 
>> other sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give you 
>> an accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
>>> give me use cases as examples.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
 On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They 
 are much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to 
 wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
 headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
 iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on 
 the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hope my mail finds you well,
> 
> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
> delay small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you 
> can navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good 
> for work when you have tasks to finish very soon?
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I also like my AirPods Pro a lot.  I do not experience delay when using them.

I do often use them in noise cancellation mode.  As Tim says, they don’t 
perform as well as over the ear headphones will, but they do perform quite 
well, in my opinion.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
> Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
> built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
> Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does 
> quite well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, they 
> will not perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily used them 
> in Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant of other 
> sounds when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give you an 
> accurate example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
>> give me use cases as examples.
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
>>> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to 
>>> wired headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired 
>>> headphones in some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and 
>>> iPhone, and thus auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on 
>>> the iPhone or Cisco Jabber on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Hope my mail finds you well,
 
 I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
 experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the 
 delay small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you 
 can navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for 
 work when you have tasks to finish very soon?
 
 Thank you so much,
 
 Regards,
 
 Mohamed E. Fayed 
 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Oops, sorry, didn’t answer all your questions.  Changing between Noise 
Cancellation and Transparency mode is quick and easy.  Simply long-press on the 
stem to toggle between the two modes.  When listening to music, or movies, the 
sound is excellent.  Good bass and clear highs.  They also work with Apple’s 
Spacial Audio feature which changes the feel of the sound depending on where 
your head is facing in reference to your iPhone, iPad or Mac.

Later…


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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
> give me use cases as examples.
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
>> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
>> headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
>> some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
>> auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
>> Jabber on the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
>>> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
>>> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
>>> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
>>> 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

There are two main modes with the AirPod Pro.  Noise Cancellation and 
Transparency.  In Transparency, you are able to hear outside sounds via the 
built-in mic.  These sounds can also be amplified if needed within the 
Accessibility settings of your iPhone.  The Noise Cancellation mode does quite 
well, although being that they are not an “Over the Ear” headset, they will not 
perform as well as that kind of headset.  I have primarily used them in 
Transparency mode myself as I’ve mostly needed to be cognizant of other sounds 
when using the AirPod Pros.  I’m not sure that I could give you an accurate 
example when using them in Noise Cancellation mode.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
> give me use cases as examples.
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
>> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
>> headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
>> some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
>> auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
>> Jabber on the Mac.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
>>> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
>>> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
>>> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much,
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

[Muhammad Fayed]

Sounds good. How about noise cancellation, how it sounds in general? Please 
give me use cases as examples.

Thank you so much,

Best,

Mohamed E. Fayed 

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
> much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
> headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
> some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
> auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
> Jabber on the Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed > > wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>> 
>> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
>> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
>> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
>> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
>> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mohamed E. Fayed 
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Re: AirPods Pro from Voiceover user prospective

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I use AirPod Pro for home and work and find them very responsive.  They are 
much better than my other Bluetooth headphones and, yes, comparable to wired 
headphones.  I have actually found them more useful than wired headphones in 
some respects at work as they connect to both my Mac and iPhone, and thus 
auto-switch between when accepting phone calls either on the iPhone or Cisco 
Jabber on the Mac.

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Jamf Certified Tech
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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hope my mail finds you well,
> 
> I am thinking of getting a new pair of AirPods Pro and I wonder how the 
> experience of using Bluetooth EarPods like AirPods looks like. Is the delay 
> small enough that it does not affect your usage? For example, you can 
> navigate through iPhone as fast as using Wired EarPods? Is it good for work 
> when you have tasks to finish very soon?
> 
> Thank you so much,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed 
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Re: AirPods Pro questions.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, thanks for that.
Will try this later on.
They’re really good.
/A

> 14 aug. 2021 kl. 21:47 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Brad answered your question about the gestures, so I will just add that when 
> I take them out, I do put them back in the charging case.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends!
>> I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
>> For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
>> always put them in the charging case?
>> Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
>> So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not 
>> how I should or where on the pods I should press?
>> But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the 
>> biggest silicon plugs.
>> I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods Pro questions.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,

Brad answered your question about the gestures, so I will just add that when I 
take them out, I do put them back in the charging case.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Hi friends!
> I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
> For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
> always put them in the charging case?
> Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
> So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not how 
> I should or where on the pods I should press?
> But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the biggest 
> silicon plugs.
> I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
> /A
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Re: AirPods Pro questions.

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It is always best to put the AirPods into the case when you are not wearing 
them.
On each AirPod Pro, you will feel a small indention on the front side of the 
short stem.  This is where you press in order to initiate an action.

You press and hold to initiate the customizable action, such as changing Noise 
Cancellation mode, or activating Siri.
You press once quickly to play/pause whatever you are listening to, or to 
answer or terminate an incoming phone call.
You press twice quickly to go forward to the next track, or when on a call, to 
answer a second call waiting call.
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On Aug 14, 2021, at 14:34, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi friends!
I actually have set my AirPods Pro up but I have some questions for you.
For those of you who have them when you take them out of your ears do you 
always put them in the charging case?
Secondly I have issues making the gestures work properly.
So I can’t really get the hang of  play/pause/forward/backwards, also not how I 
should or where on the pods I should press?
But I am impressed so far even though my ears are to big even for the biggest 
silicon plugs.
I hope I don’t confuse anyone now.
/A

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Re: AirPods Pro or PowerBeats pro.

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Hi Anders,

I’ve never tried the PowerBeats Pro, but I like my AirPods Pro a lot.  As far 
as how good the sound cancellation is, I don’t have a basis of comparison, but 
I find it to be quite good.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Since the AirPods max is not really something you carry around I would like 
> to have some noise canceling in-ear headphones.
> I have the powerBeats, not the pro ones that are noise canceling.
> But I wonder  which one to buy?
> For those of you who have the AirPods Pro, how much do the cancel out?
> Can you sit in a car or a train and listen without being disturbed?
> Thanks.
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Re: AirPods Pro or PowerBeats pro.

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Hi!
Thanks Herbie.
Blessings.
/A

> 14 juni 2021 kl. 19:52 skrev Herbie Allen :
> 
> AirPods Pro. I have the regular Powerbeats  but the Pro have a better sound. 
> The noise cancelling is pretty good and even without it activated, they block 
> out sound better than the other models ever did.
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 12:33, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Since the AirPods max is not really something you carry around I would like 
>> to have some noise canceling in-ear headphones.
>> I have the powerBeats, not the pro ones that are noise canceling.
>> But I wonder  which one to buy?
>> For those of you who have the AirPods Pro, how much do the cancel out?
>> Can you sit in a car or a train and listen without being disturbed?
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods Pro or PowerBeats pro.

[Herbie Allen]

AirPods Pro. I have the regular Powerbeats  but the Pro have a better sound. 
The noise cancelling is pretty good and even without it activated, they block 
out sound better than the other models ever did.

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> I have the powerBeats, not the pro ones that are noise canceling.
> But I wonder  which one to buy?
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> Thanks.
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Re: AirPods max question.

[Les Kriegler]

Actually, there is. I checked it out with mine last evening.

> On Jun 12, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I guds there’s a similar for the AirPods max which is over ear.
> Thanks Jonathan.
> /A
> 
>> 11 juni 2021 kl. 21:01 skrev Jonathan Cohn > >:
>> 
>> For theAirPods, there is an option:   Automatic In-Ear Detection.
>> Open bluetooth settings on your Mac, and then while the Max is connected, 
>> there should be an options button. Press this and hopefully you will find 
>> what you are looking for.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 14:48, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> When you remove your AirPods Max from your head the sound stops.
>>> Can this be adjusted somewhere?
>>> Does is has to be this way.
>>> This is on a MacBook Air With big sure.
>>> /A
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Re: AirPods max question.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I guds there’s a similar for the AirPods max which is over ear.
Thanks Jonathan.
/A

> 11 juni 2021 kl. 21:01 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> For theAirPods, there is an option:   Automatic In-Ear Detection.
> Open bluetooth settings on your Mac, and then while the Max is connected, 
> there should be an options button. Press this and hopefully you will find 
> what you are looking for.
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 14:48, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi!
>> When you remove your AirPods Max from your head the sound stops.
>> Can this be adjusted somewhere?
>> Does is has to be this way.
>> This is on a MacBook Air With big sure.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods max question.

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For theAirPods, there is an option:   Automatic In-Ear Detection.
Open bluetooth settings on your Mac, and then while the Max is connected, there 
should be an options button. Press this and hopefully you will find what you 
are looking for.
Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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RE: AirPods Max question.

[josephlhodge]

The ANC button is the long button that isn't the digital crown. With your 
headphones off and in the case it acts as a wake up to report the battery 
status on the Iphone. Much like if you were to open the lid on the Airpods pro. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:02 PM
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Subject: RE: AirPods Max question.

What is the ANC button? What will it report?

Les

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Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods Max question.

Hi When the Airpod Max enter the deep sleep mode you know longer see the 
battery indicator. It could also mean they are dead, but if it has been over 
night and they are in the case more than likely this is what happened. To check 
open the case and press the ANC button.

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Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:18 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: AirPods Max question.

Hi!
Don’t know what’s happen with my subject line.
Sorry for that.
I meant AirPods Max.
GRRRH!
/A

> 2 apr. 2021 kl. 17:14 skrev Anders Holmberg :
> 
> Hi!
> I haven’t had time to use my AirPods Max now when I got them but hopefully I 
> will do that later tomorrow.
> They are  in the cover or stand now.
> I have One question.
> On my Iphone I have had a indicator telling me 100% every time I open the 
> screen.
> I guds this is the AirPods max battery indicator.
> Because in the upper right corner I have my Iphone’s battery indicator.
> Today I don’t see the first indicator mentioned.
> Does this mean that the AirPods Max are discharged or have they just gone 
> into some standby mode?
> For those of you who know.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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RE: AirPods Max question.

[Les Kriegler]

What is the ANC button? What will it report?

Les

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Subject: RE: AirPods Max question.

Hi When the Airpod Max enter the deep sleep mode you know longer see the 
battery indicator. It could also mean they are dead, but if it has been over 
night and they are in the case more than likely this is what happened. To check 
open the case and press the ANC button.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:18 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: AirPods Max question.

Hi!
Don’t know what’s happen with my subject line.
Sorry for that.
I meant AirPods Max.
GRRRH!
/A

> 2 apr. 2021 kl. 17:14 skrev Anders Holmberg :
> 
> Hi!
> I haven’t had time to use my AirPods Max now when I got them but hopefully I 
> will do that later tomorrow.
> They are  in the cover or stand now.
> I have One question.
> On my Iphone I have had a indicator telling me 100% every time I open the 
> screen.
> I guds this is the AirPods max battery indicator.
> Because in the upper right corner I have my Iphone’s battery indicator.
> Today I don’t see the first indicator mentioned.
> Does this mean that the AirPods Max are discharged or have they just gone 
> into some standby mode?
> For those of you who know.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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RE: AirPods Max question.

[josephlhodge]

Hi When the Airpod Max enter the deep sleep mode you know longer see the 
battery indicator. It could also mean they are dead, but if it has been over 
night and they are in the case more than likely this is what happened. To check 
open the case and press the ANC button.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:18 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: AirPods Max question.

Hi!
Don’t know what’s happen with my subject line.
Sorry for that.
I meant AirPods Max.
GRRRH!
/A

> 2 apr. 2021 kl. 17:14 skrev Anders Holmberg :
> 
> Hi!
> I haven’t had time to use my AirPods Max now when I got them but hopefully I 
> will do that later tomorrow.
> They are  in the cover or stand now.
> I have One question.
> On my Iphone I have had a indicator telling me 100% every time I open the 
> screen.
> I guds this is the AirPods max battery indicator.
> Because in the upper right corner I have my Iphone’s battery indicator.
> Today I don’t see the first indicator mentioned.
> Does this mean that the AirPods Max are discharged or have they just gone 
> into some standby mode?
> For those of you who know.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Pete Nalda]

Yeah, to me it’s a leap forward compared to the 5 hours my AirPod Pro’s we’re 
getting. 

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Hmm, i have heard that its only 20 hours but that’s a lot to me.
> /A
> 
>> 20 mars 2021 kl. 16:40 skrev Pete Nalda :
>> 
>> One more thing about the Max I forgot to mention, is battery life. It’s 
>> really amazing!!  I’ve left them unplugged all day long, and have yet to run 
>> them down!  I think their smart case helps in this area. And that case is 
>> nothing to write home about, but the protect flap protects the top, and is 
>> magnetic, and I think they run down less when they’re slipped in it. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well ok.
>>> So I have to decide myself if its gonna be AirPods max or Beoplay H95.
>>> The pro with the AirPods Max is that you can use them  with  all apple 
>>> Devices by just connecting to the Pods from Control Center.
>>> /A
>>> 
 18 mars 2021 kl. 21:26 skrev Pete Nalda :
 
 More like eggs. To me, it’s an asset, more Immersive, and comfortable. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, are the ear cups  rounded or do they look like eggs.
> /A
> 
>> 18 mars 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Pete Nalda :
>> 
>> Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! 
>> Sound is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage 
>> of the extra microphones. I thought it made sense to change the 
>> direction of the crown volume function, so that it’s clockwise for 
>> louder volume. One thing to note, transparency does function better with 
>> lower music volumes. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
 On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I’ve saved up money to buy some new headphones.
>>> I am thinking of buying the AirPods Max.
>>> Has anyone here on the list tested them or touched them?
>>> I am very curious on how they feel and look like?
>>> The reviews on YouTube are very interesting like how they are working 
>>> and how to play/pause etc.
>>> But I would like to know them from a blindness perspective.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> /A
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Hmm, i have heard that its only 20 hours but that’s a lot to me.
/A

> 20 mars 2021 kl. 16:40 skrev Pete Nalda :
> 
> One more thing about the Max I forgot to mention, is battery life. It’s 
> really amazing!!  I’ve left them unplugged all day long, and have yet to run 
> them down!  I think their smart case helps in this area. And that case is 
> nothing to write home about, but the protect flap protects the top, and is 
> magnetic, and I think they run down less when they’re slipped in it. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well ok.
>> So I have to decide myself if its gonna be AirPods max or Beoplay H95.
>> The pro with the AirPods Max is that you can use them  with  all apple 
>> Devices by just connecting to the Pods from Control Center.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 18 mars 2021 kl. 21:26 skrev Pete Nalda :
>>> 
>>> More like eggs. To me, it’s an asset, more Immersive, and comfortable. 
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>> 
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, are the ear cups  rounded or do they look like eggs.
 /A
 
> 18 mars 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Pete Nalda :
> 
> Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! 
> Sound is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage 
> of the extra microphones. I thought it made sense to change the direction 
> of the crown volume function, so that it’s clockwise for louder volume. 
> One thing to note, transparency does function better with lower music 
> volumes. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I’ve saved up money to buy some new headphones.
>> I am thinking of buying the AirPods Max.
>> Has anyone here on the list tested them or touched them?
>> I am very curious on how they feel and look like?
>> The reviews on YouTube are very interesting like how they are working 
>> and how to play/pause etc.
>> But I would like to know them from a blindness perspective.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Pete Nalda]

One more thing about the Max I forgot to mention, is battery life. It’s really 
amazing!!  I’ve left them unplugged all day long, and have yet to run them 
down!  I think their smart case helps in this area. And that case is nothing to 
write home about, but the protect flap protects the top, and is magnetic, and I 
think they run down less when they’re slipped in it. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well ok.
> So I have to decide myself if its gonna be AirPods max or Beoplay H95.
> The pro with the AirPods Max is that you can use them  with  all apple 
> Devices by just connecting to the Pods from Control Center.
> /A
> 
>> 18 mars 2021 kl. 21:26 skrev Pete Nalda :
>> 
>> More like eggs. To me, it’s an asset, more Immersive, and comfortable. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
 On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, are the ear cups  rounded or do they look like eggs.
>>> /A
>>> 
 18 mars 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Pete Nalda :
 
 Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! 
 Sound is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage 
 of the extra microphones. I thought it made sense to change the direction 
 of the crown volume function, so that it’s clockwise for louder volume. 
 One thing to note, transparency does function better with lower music 
 volumes. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’ve saved up money to buy some new headphones.
> I am thinking of buying the AirPods Max.
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well ok.
So I have to decide myself if its gonna be AirPods max or Beoplay H95.
The pro with the AirPods Max is that you can use them  with  all apple Devices 
by just connecting to the Pods from Control Center.
/A

> 18 mars 2021 kl. 21:26 skrev Pete Nalda :
> 
> More like eggs. To me, it’s an asset, more Immersive, and comfortable. 
> 
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>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, are the ear cups  rounded or do they look like eggs.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 18 mars 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Pete Nalda :
>>> 
>>> Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! 
>>> Sound is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage of 
>>> the extra microphones. I thought it made sense to change the direction of 
>>> the crown volume function, so that it’s clockwise for louder volume. One 
>>> thing to note, transparency does function better with lower music volumes. 
>>> 
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Pete Nalda]

More like eggs. To me, it’s an asset, more Immersive, and comfortable. 

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> On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, are the ear cups  rounded or do they look like eggs.
> /A
> 
>> 18 mars 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Pete Nalda :
>> 
>> Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! 
>> Sound is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage of 
>> the extra microphones. I thought it made sense to change the direction of 
>> the crown volume function, so that it’s clockwise for louder volume. One 
>> thing to note, transparency does function better with lower music volumes. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
 On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
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>>> I’ve saved up money to buy some new headphones.
>>> I am thinking of buying the AirPods Max.
>>> Has anyone here on the list tested them or touched them?
>>> I am very curious on how they feel and look like?
>>> The reviews on YouTube are very interesting like how they are working and 
>>> how to play/pause etc.
>>> But I would like to know them from a blindness perspective.
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, are the ear cups  rounded or do they look like eggs.
/A

> 18 mars 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Pete Nalda :
> 
> Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! Sound 
> is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage of the 
> extra microphones. I thought it made sense to change the direction of the 
> crown volume function, so that it’s clockwise for louder volume. One thing to 
> note, transparency does function better with lower music volumes. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I’ve saved up money to buy some new headphones.
>> I am thinking of buying the AirPods Max.
>> Has anyone here on the list tested them or touched them?
>> I am very curious on how they feel and look like?
>> The reviews on YouTube are very interesting like how they are working and 
>> how to play/pause etc.
>> But I would like to know them from a blindness perspective.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods Max.

[Pete Nalda]

Not sure how blindness perspective related this is, but they are heavy! Sound 
is really good, and transparency works well, taking good advantage of the extra 
microphones. I thought it made sense to change the direction of the crown 
volume function, so that it’s clockwise for louder volume. One thing to note, 
transparency does function better with lower music volumes. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I’ve saved up money to buy some new headphones.
> I am thinking of buying the AirPods Max.
> Has anyone here on the list tested them or touched them?
> I am very curious on how they feel and look like?
> The reviews on YouTube are very interesting like how they are working and how 
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> Thanks in advance.
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RE: AirPods waterproof

[Simon A Fogarty]

Shouldn't matter apple say they aren't water proof to the poin they go through 
a washing machine.

 However if they were in the case I can see they might stay dry ish!

 But either way, don't tell apple they might want more money for the water 
proof earpods.

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Subject: Re: AirPods waterproof

JustWonderin':
  Were ThesePods: Apple's 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration AirPods?
or
Were these the AirPod PROs?
At 12:49 PM 5/6/2020, you wrote:
>My AirPods went through both the washing machine and the dryer, and 
>they're still working fine. I guess now I know they're waterproof.
>How's that for engineering?
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Re: AirPods waterproof

[Phil Halton]

Second generation AirPods

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 6, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Robin  wrote:
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> JustWonderin':
> Were ThesePods: Apple's 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration AirPods?
> or
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> At 12:49 PM 5/6/2020, you wrote:
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>> still working fine. I guess now I know they're waterproof. How's that for 
>> engineering?
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Re: AirPods waterproof

[Robin]

JustWonderin':
 Were ThesePods: Apple's 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration AirPods?
or
Were these the AirPod PROs?
At 12:49 PM 5/6/2020, you wrote:
My AirPods went through both the washing machine and the dryer, and 
they're still working fine. I guess now I know they're waterproof. 
How's that for engineering?


Sent from my IPhone

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RE: Airpods

[Simon A Fogarty]

HI David,

Yes the  phone price is split over the contract period and you pay the phone 
amount and contract monthly cost
That’s what I did when I got my 11 pro max,

The 10 dollars  per month to update wasn’t available when I got my phone but 
may be I should look at it now,

Would be worth the cost.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2020 10:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpods

I was recently looking at NZ mobile providers. Two Degrees now offers a 
purchase plan where they split the cost of the new phone across the life of the 
contract, and if one adds $10 per month, one can upgrade the phone after 12 
months by exchanging the current handset for the new model.
Here in Australia, Telstra does this, and they even divide the cost of 
accessories, such as AirPods, in to the same payment plan across the life of 
the contract. I go for the two year contract so I can upgrade my phone every 12 
months.

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 18:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
May be in the states,


Here in NZ your lucky if you get any apple product reduced in price.

Even iPhones aren't subsudised much by our mobile providers.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2020 3:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Airpods

More Often than Not, Other Sellers of Apple's AirPods  Sale them at a  Reduced 
Price than Apple does at its Retail Stores At 03:24 PM 1/21/2020, you wrote:
>But aren't they the same price?
>
>Apples price should be retail so unless the other store loses off an
>airpod sale,
>
>-Original Message-
>From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
>Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 3:31 AM
>To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>Subject: Re: Airpods
>
>Hi!
>Apple store is so expensive.
>So i buy them from another store here if i do.
>/A
>
> > 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin 
> > mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>>:
> >
> > Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter
> Stem Than either the 1stGeneration &
> 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the
> Chargin'Cqase, it's Basically "The Same"
> Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) the
> Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have
> a  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has
> Equipped them to Measure for the "Right Fit"
> >
> > Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration
> > AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
> >
> > I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs,
> > where can 1  get them??? From Apple?
>  From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
> >> I also thought that EarPods were nothing
> that I really needed, but one day in a crowded  and very noisy Apple
>Store, I realize that  using them would allow me to function in noisy
>environments with my phone. Also, there is the  privacy factor, no one
>can hear your phone  talking. what I like most about the second GEN
>AirPods is the size. The case is not much  bigger than a dental floss
>case and it fits in  the small change pocket of my jeans and goes
>everywhere with me. I don̢۪t think you can  get thathat size factor
>with the pro models.
> It̢۪s so easy to ju just pop one or both of  the AirPods in when I
>need them without messing  around with large objects such as the pro
>model. They̢۪re re very easy to use in any  environment and come in
>and out of the case so  easy it̢۪s no big deal to use them just for a
>minute or tr two As needed. OK, I̢۪m starting  to ramble. Get the se
>second GEN I think you̢۪ll like them very much.
>.
> >> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form
> factor as the wired earbuds only without the  wire obviously. There is
>a little stem that  hangs down about an inch or so from the  earpiece.
>There are things called ear hooks  which will fasten onto that stem and
>then loop  around the ear to keep them secure in case  you̢۪re out in
>a outdoor environment and  youyou don̢۪t want to risk losing one of
>them.
>.
> >>
> >> Sent from my IPhone
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders
> Holmberg mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ïÂ

Re: Airpods

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Not no but the one with charging case is 1995 or something in the store and 
2100 something in apple store.
BUt well i get another pair of headset i think.
/A

> 22 jan. 2020 kl. 00:24 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
> 
> But aren't they the same price?
> 
> Apples price should be retail so unless the other store loses off an airpod 
> sale,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 3:31 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Airpods
> 
> Hi!
> Apple store is so expensive.
> So i buy them from another store here if i do.
> /A
> 
>> 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin :
>> 
>> Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter Stem Than either the 
>> 1stGeneration & 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the Chargin'Cqase, it's 
>> Basically "The Same" Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) 
>> the Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have a 
>>  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them 
>> to Measure for the "Right Fit"
>> 
>> Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration 
>> AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
>> 
>> I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs, 
>> where can 1  get them??? From Apple? From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc At 
>> 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
>>> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day 
>>> in a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would 
>>> allow me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is 
>>> the privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most 
>>> about the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than 
>>> a dental floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and 
>>> goes everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with 
>>> the pro models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in 
>>> when I need them without messing around with large objects such as the pro 
>>> model. They’re very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of 
>>> the case so easy it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As 
>>> needed. OK, I’m starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll 
>>> like them very much.
>>> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
>>> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
>>> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
>>> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
>>> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk 
>>> losing one of them.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks!
>>>> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i 
>>>> begin to think about doing that.
>>>> So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd 
>>>> gen or the pro ones?
>>>> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound 
>>>> quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?
>>>> I also would like to know how they look?
>>>> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>>>> Many more questions to come.
>>>> Blessings.
>>>> /A
>>>> 
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>>>> reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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Re: Airpods

[David Chittenden]

I was recently looking at NZ mobile providers. Two Degrees now offers a
purchase plan where they split the cost of the new phone across the life of
the contract, and if one adds $10 per month, one can upgrade the phone
after 12 months by exchanging the current handset for the new model.
Here in Australia, Telstra does this, and they even divide the cost of
accessories, such as AirPods, in to the same payment plan across the life
of the contract. I go for the two year contract so I can upgrade my phone
every 12 months.

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 18:58, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

> May be in the states,
>
>
> Here in NZ your lucky if you get any apple product reduced in price.
>
> Even iPhones aren't subsudised much by our mobile providers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Robin
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2020 3:40 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Airpods
>
> More Often than Not, Other Sellers of Apple's AirPods  Sale them at a
> Reduced Price than Apple does at its Retail Stores At 03:24 PM 1/21/2020,
> you wrote:
> >But aren't they the same price?
> >
> >Apples price should be retail so unless the other store loses off an
> >airpod sale,
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> >Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 3:31 AM
> >To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> >Subject: Re: Airpods
> >
> >Hi!
> >Apple store is so expensive.
> >So i buy them from another store here if i do.
> >/A
> >
> > > 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin :
> > >
> > > Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter
> > Stem Than either the 1stGeneration &
> > 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the
> > Chargin'Cqase, it's Basically "The Same"
> > Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) the
> > Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have
> > a  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has
> > Equipped them to Measure for the "Right Fit"
> > >
> > > Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration
> > > AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
> > >
> > > I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs,
> > > where can 1  get them??? From Apple?
> >  From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
> > >> I also thought that EarPods were nothing
> > that I really needed, but one day in a crowded  and very noisy Apple
> >Store, I realize that  using them would allow me to function in noisy
> >environments with my phone. Also, there is the  privacy factor, no one
> >can hear your phone  talking. what I like most about the second GEN
> >AirPods is the size. The case is not much  bigger than a dental floss
> >case and it fits in  the small change pocket of my jeans and goes
> >everywhere with me. I don̢۪t think you can  get thathat size factor
> >with the pro models.
> > It̢۪s so easy to ju just pop one or both of  the AirPods in when I
> >need them without messing  around with large objects such as the pro
> >model. They̢۪re re very easy to use in any  environment and come in
> >and out of the case so  easy it̢۪s no big deal to use them just for a
> >minute or tr two As needed. OK, I̢۪m starting  to ramble. Get the se
> >second GEN I think you̢۪ll like them very much.
> >.
> > >> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form
> > factor as the wired earbuds only without the  wire obviously. There is
> >a little stem that  hangs down about an inch or so from the  earpiece.
> >There are things called ear hooks  which will fasten onto that stem and
> >then loop  around the ear to keep them secure in case  you̢۪re out in
> >a outdoor environment and  youyou don̢۪t want to risk losing one of
> >them.
> >.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my IPhone
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders
> > Holmberg  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi folks!
> > >> > I said to myself that i never gonna buy me
> > a pair of AirPods but now i begin to think about doing that.
> > >> > So what i would like to to know if i buy
> > them is if i should buy the 2nd gen or the pro ones?
> > >> > Noice canseling is not nessesary but are
> > there differences in sound quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?
> > >> > I also would like to know how they look?

RE: Airpods

[Simon A Fogarty]

May be in the states,


Here in NZ your lucky if you get any apple product reduced in price.

Even iPhones aren't subsudised much by our mobile providers.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2020 3:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpods

More Often than Not, Other Sellers of Apple's AirPods  Sale them at a  Reduced 
Price than Apple does at its Retail Stores At 03:24 PM 1/21/2020, you wrote:
>But aren't they the same price?
>
>Apples price should be retail so unless the other store loses off an 
>airpod sale,
>
>-Original Message-
>From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 3:31 AM
>To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>Subject: Re: Airpods
>
>Hi!
>Apple store is so expensive.
>So i buy them from another store here if i do.
>/A
>
> > 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin :
> >
> > Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter
> Stem Than either the 1stGeneration &
> 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the
> Chargin'Cqase, it's Basically "The Same" 
> Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) the 
> Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have 
> a  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has  
> Equipped them to Measure for the "Right Fit"
> >
> > Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration 
> > AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
> >
> > I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs, 
> > where can 1  get them??? From Apple?
>  From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
> >> I also thought that EarPods were nothing
> that I really needed, but one day in a crowded  and very noisy Apple 
>Store, I realize that  using them would allow me to function in noisy  
>environments with my phone. Also, there is the  privacy factor, no one 
>can hear your phone  talking. what I like most about the second GEN  
>AirPods is the size. The case is not much  bigger than a dental floss 
>case and it fits in  the small change pocket of my jeans and goes  
>everywhere with me. I don̢۪t think you can  get thathat size factor 
>with the pro models.
> It̢۪s so easy to ju just pop one or both of  the AirPods in when I 
>need them without messing  around with large objects such as the pro  
>model. They̢۪re re very easy to use in any  environment and come in 
>and out of the case so  easy it̢۪s no big deal to use them just for a  
>minute or tr two As needed. OK, I̢۪m starting  to ramble. Get the se 
>second GEN I think you̢۪ll like them very much.
>.
> >> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form
> factor as the wired earbuds only without the  wire obviously. There is 
>a little stem that  hangs down about an inch or so from the  earpiece. 
>There are things called ear hooks  which will fasten onto that stem and 
>then loop  around the ear to keep them secure in case  you̢۪re out in 
>a outdoor environment and  youyou don̢۪t want to risk losing one of 
>them.
>.
> >>
> >> Sent from my IPhone
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders
> Holmberg  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi folks!
> >> > I said to myself that i never gonna buy me
> a pair of AirPods but now i begin to think about doing that.
> >> > So what i would like to to know if i buy
> them is if i should buy the 2nd gen or the pro ones?
> >> > Noice canseling is not nessesary but are
> there differences in sound quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?
> >> > I also would like to know how they look?
> >> > Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
> >> > Many more questions to come.
> >> > Blessings.
> >> > /A
> >> >
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RE: Airpods

[Robin]

More Often than Not, Other Sellers of Apple's 
AirPods  Sale them at a  Reduced Price than Apple does at its Retail Stores

At 03:24 PM 1/21/2020, you wrote:

But aren't they the same price?

Apples price should be retail so unless the 
other store loses off an airpod sale,


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg

Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 3:31 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Airpods

Hi!
Apple store is so expensive.
So i buy them from another store here if i do.
/A

> 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin :
>
> Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter 
Stem Than either the 1stGeneration & 
2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the 
Chargin'Cqase, it's Basically "The Same" 
Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs 
(AirPod PROs) the Chargin'Case  Opens 
Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs 
have a  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in 
YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them to Measure for the "Right Fit"

>
> Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration
> AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
>
> I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs,
> where can 1  get them??? From Apple? 
 From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
>> I also thought that EarPods were nothing 
that I really needed, but one day in a crowded 
and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that 
using them would allow me to function in noisy 
environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
privacy factor, no one can hear your phone 
talking. what I like most about the second GEN 
AirPods is the size. The case is not much 
bigger than a dental floss case and it fits in 
the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
everywhere with me. I don̢۪t think you can 
get thathat size factor with the pro models. 
It̢۪s so easy to ju just pop one or both of 
the AirPods in when I need them without messing 
around with large objects such as the pro 
model. They̢۪re re very easy to use in any 
environment and come in and out of the case so 
easy it̢۪s no big deal to use them just for a 
minute or tr two As needed. OK, I̢۪m starting 
to ramble. Get the se second GEN I think you̢۪ll like them very much.

.
>> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form 
factor as the wired earbuds only without the 
wire obviously. There is a little stem that 
hangs down about an inch or so from the 
earpiece. There are things called ear hooks 
which will fasten onto that stem and then loop 
around the ear to keep them secure in case 
you̢۪re out in a outdoor environment and 
youyou don̢۪t want to risk losing one of them.

.
>>
>> Sent from my IPhone
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders 
Holmberg  wrote:

>> >
>> > Hi folks!
>> > I said to myself that i never gonna buy me 
a pair of AirPods but now i begin to think about doing that.
>> > So what i would like to to know if i buy 
them is if i should buy the 2nd gen or the pro ones?
>> > Noice canseling is not nessesary but are 
there differences in sound quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?

>> > I also would like to know how they look?
>> > Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> > Many more questions to come.
>> > Blessings.
>> > /A
>> >
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>> > The following information is important for 
all members of the Mac Visionaries list.

>> >
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>> >
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>> > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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RE: Airpods

[Simon A Fogarty]

But aren't they the same price?

Apples price should be retail so unless the other store loses off an airpod 
sale,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2020 3:31 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Airpods

Hi!
Apple store is so expensive.
So i buy them from another store here if i do.
/A

> 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin :
> 
> Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter Stem Than either the 
> 1stGeneration & 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the Chargin'Cqase, it's 
> Basically "The Same" Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) 
> the Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have a  
> SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them to 
> Measure for the "Right Fit"
> 
> Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration 
> AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
> 
> I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs, 
> where can 1  get them??? From Apple? From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc At 
> 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
>> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day 
>> in a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would 
>> allow me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
>> privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about 
>> the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a 
>> dental floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and 
>> goes everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with 
>> the pro models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in 
>> when I need them without messing around with large objects such as the pro 
>> model. They’re very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of 
>> the case so easy it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As 
>> needed. OK, I’m starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll 
>> like them very much.
>> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
>> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
>> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
>> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
>> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk 
>> losing one of them.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi folks!
>> > I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i 
>> > begin to think about doing that.
>> > So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd 
>> > gen or the pro ones?
>> > Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound 
>> > quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?
>> > I also would like to know how they look?
>> > Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> > Many more questions to come.
>> > Blessings.
>> > /A
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Re: Airpods

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Apple store is so expensive.
So i buy them from another store here if i do.
/A

> 20 jan. 2020 kl. 04:31 skrev Robin :
> 
> Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter Stem Than either the 
> 1stGeneration & 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the Chargin'Cqase, it's 
> Basically "The Same" Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) 
> the Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have a  
> SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them to 
> Measure for the "Right Fit"
> 
> Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration AirPods as 
> I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)
> 
> I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs, where can 
> 1  get them??? From Apple? From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc
> At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
>> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day 
>> in a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would 
>> allow me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
>> privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about 
>> the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a 
>> dental floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and 
>> goes everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with 
>> the pro models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in 
>> when I need them without messing around with large objects such as the pro 
>> model. They’re very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of 
>> the case so easy it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As 
>> needed. OK, I’m starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll 
>> like them very much.
>> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
>> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
>> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
>> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
>> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk 
>> losing one of them.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi folks!
>> > I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i 
>> > begin to think about doing that.
>> > So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd 
>> > gen or the pro ones?
>> > Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound 
>> > quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?
>> > I also would like to know how they look?
>> > Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> > Many more questions to come.
>> > Blessings.
>> > /A
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RE: Airpods

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey Kawal,

Just to let you know,
I had a similar thing happen with my series 2 pods 

So I did a search on amazon and found these silicon straps like a shoelace that 
the pods sit in the end of 
And mean that if the pods fall out of your ears they don't drop on the floor,

They stay around your neck so they are harder to lose.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2020 12:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpods

I have both the original first generation AirPods, and the new AirPods Pro. The 
AirPods Pro fit much more securely in my ear. also, the stem on the AirPods Pro 
is significantly shorter. The case on the AirPods Pro is slightly larger than 
on the earlier models, but I don't find that to be an issue.

The AirPods Pro may cost a bit more, but I believe they are the better choice.

- Brad -

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 15:44, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

I remember buying the first Gen EarPods  and one of them fell under my 
Treadmill when I was doing. A Work out as my ears are so small for these types 
of things.  Well when I found it, I vowed never to buy such a thing again.  I 
now just use Aftershokz bone conduction.

Kawal.

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 20:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day in 
> a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would allow 
> me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
> privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about 
> the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a dental 
> floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
> everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with the pro 
> models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in when I need 
> them without messing around with large objects such as the pro model. They’re 
> very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of the case so easy 
> it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As needed. OK, I’m 
> starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll like them very much.
> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk losing 
> one of them.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks!
>> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i begin 
>> to think about doing that.
>> So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd gen 
>> or the pro ones?
>> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound quality 
>> from the 2nd gen and the pro?
>> I also would like to know how they look?
>> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> Many more questions to come.
>> Blessings.
>> /A
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RE: Airpods

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Anders,

 I can only speak for the second gen and they are great sound and easy to use,

 As for how they look,

If you take a pair of wired apple earpods that you would get with a phone,
 Then you cut the wire off the end of the ear pease then you have the wireless 
airpods,

That's pretty much all there is to them,

 The case is a great size and fits in my pocket without issue and keeps the 
pods charged for days 

Mind you currently I'm not using them during the day a lot.

Hey siri works pretty well most of the time,
And they are most importantly cheaper than the pods pro,

I've only had once an issue where the pod came out of my ear when I got hit buy 
a swinging branch of a tree in a wind storm 

I haven't seen or tried the pods pro,
So I can't comment on them but to save money the series 2 pods in my book meet 
all requirements.

However to throw a wrench in your works,

 I also have a pair of power beats pro earpods as well and although they are 
slightly more costly than the series 2,

They are great and have play / stop next / previous and volume comtrols on the 
earpods,

And each pod has a hook to keep them on / in your ears.

 More of a noise cancellation ear insert but they aren't noise cancelling.

 Larger packaging but still a great quality earpod 

Hope that gives you something to work with.

I personally don't think the pros are worth the money when the power beats and 
series 2 work great al ready ..

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2020 7:33 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Airpods

Hi folks!
I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i begin to 
think about doing that.
So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd gen or 
the pro ones?
Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound quality 
from the 2nd gen and the pro?
I also would like to know how they look?
Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
Many more questions to come.
Blessings.
/A

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Re: Airpods

[Robin]

I'd rather Purchase  Them (The Hooks) InPerson at 
a  Retail Store, is that possible?

At 07:45 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:

Look for the Ear-hooks on Amazon.

- Brad -


On Jan 19, 2020, at 21:31, Robin 
<robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:


Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter 
Stem Than either the 1stGeneration & 
2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the 
Chargin'Cqase, it's Basically "The Same" 
Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod 
PROs) the Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally 
Instead of Vertically & the PROs have 
a  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in 
YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them to Measure for the "Right Fit"


Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration 
or 2ndGeneration AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)


I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if 
Available for the PROs, where can 1  get them??? 
From Apple? From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc

At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I 
really needed, but one day in a crowded and 
very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using 
them would allow me to function in noisy 
environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
privacy factor, no one can hear your phone 
talking. what I like most about the second GEN 
AirPods is the size. The case is not much 
bigger than a dental floss case and it fits in 
the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
everywhere with me. I don̢۪t thithink you can 
get that size factor with the pro models. 
Itâ€ââ„¢s so easy to just pop one or both of 
the AirPods in when I need them without messing 
around with large objects such as the pro 
model. They̢۪re very easy to use in any 
environment and come in and ou out of the case 
so easy it̢۪s no big deal to use them jm just 
for a minute or two As needed. OK, I̢۪m 
starting ng to ramble. Get the second GEN I 
think you̢۪ll like th them very much.
P.S. The second GEN is about the same form 
factor as the wired earbuds only without the 
wire obviously. There is a little stem that 
hangs down about an inch or so from the 
earpiece. There are things called ear hooks 
which will fasten onto that stem and then loop 
around the ear to keep them secure in case 
you̢۪re out in a ou outdoor environment and 
you don̢۪t want to risk losing ng one of them.


Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg 
<and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

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> Hi folks!
> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a 
pair of AirPods but now i begin to think about doing that.
> So what i would like to to know if i buy 
them is if i should buy the 2nd gen or the pro ones?
> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are 
there differences in sound quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?

> I also would like to know how they look?
> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
> Many more questions to come.
> Blessings.
> /A
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Re: Airpods

[Brad Snyder]

Look for the Ear-hooks on Amazon.

- Brad -


On Jan 19, 2020, at 21:31, Robin  wrote:

Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter Stem Than either the 
1stGeneration & 2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the Chargin'Cqase, it's 
Basically "The Same" Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod PROs) the 
Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally Instead of Vertically & the PROs have a  
SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them to 
Measure for the "Right Fit"

Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration or 2ndGeneration AirPods as I  
Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)

I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if Available for the PROs, where can 1 
 get them??? From Apple? From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc
At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day in 
> a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would allow 
> me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
> privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about 
> the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a dental 
> floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
> everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with the pro 
> models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in when I need 
> them without messing around with large objects such as the pro model. 
> They’re very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of the case 
> so easy it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As needed. 
> OK, I’m starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll like them 
> very much.
> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk 
> losing one of them.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks!
> > I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i 
> > begin to think about doing that.
> > So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd 
> > gen or the pro ones?
> > Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound quality 
> > from the 2nd gen and the pro?
> > I also would like to know how they look?
> > Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
> > Many more questions to come.
> > Blessings.
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Re: Airpods

[Robin]

Have you Explored  Apple's PowerBeats PRO??? They 
come Equipped With Hooks that Wrap Around 
YourEars as Well as a  SiliconeTip, which is ToBe 
Placed  inside YourEar. They also have 
PhysicalButtons (VolumeRocker & 1OtherButton)

At 01:43 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
I remember buying the first Gen EarPods  and one 
of them fell under my Treadmill when I was 
doing. A Work out as my ears are so small for 
these types of things.  Well when I found it, I 
vowed never to buy such a thing again.  I now 
just use Aftershokz bone conduction.


Kawal.

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 20:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
>
> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that 
I really needed, but one day in a crowded and 
very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using 
them would allow me to function in noisy 
environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
privacy factor, no one can hear your phone 
talking. what I like most about the second GEN 
AirPods is the size. The case is not much 
bigger than a dental floss case and it fits in 
the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get 
that size factor with the pro models. It’s so 
easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in 
when I need them without messing around with 
large objects such as the pro model. They’re 
very easy to use in any environment and come in 
and out of the case so easy it’s no big deal 
to use them just for a minute or two As needed. 
OK, I’m starting to ramble. Get the second 
GEN I think you’ll like them very much.
> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form 
factor as the wired earbuds only without the 
wire obviously. There is a little stem that 
hangs down about an inch or so from the 
earpiece. There are things called ear hooks 
which will fasten onto that stem and then loop 
around the ear to keep them secure in case 
you’re out in a outdoor environment and you 
don’t want to risk losing one of them.

>
> Sent from my IPhone
>
>
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg 
 wrote:

>>
>> Hi folks!
>> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a 
pair of AirPods but now i begin to think about doing that.
>> So what i would like to to know if i buy 
them is if i should buy the 2nd gen or the pro ones?
>> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are 
there differences in sound quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?

>> I also would like to know how they look?
>> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> Many more questions to come.
>> Blessings.
>> /A
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Re: Airpods

[Robin]

Apple's  NEW AirPod PROs have a  Much Shorter 
Stem Than either the 1stGeneration & 
2ndGeneration AirPods, & as For the 
Chargin'Cqase, it's Basically "The Same" 
Chargin'Case...Except that With the PROs (AirPod 
PROs) the Chargin'Case  Opens Horizontally 
Instead of Vertically & the PROs have 
a  SiliconeTips, which are ToBe Placed in 
YourEars & Apple has  Equipped them to Measure for the "Right Fit"


Can't really Speak on the Original 1stGeneration 
or 2ndGeneration AirPods as I  Decided to Purchase the NEW PROs (AirPod PROs)


I'm  interested  in Purchasin' the Hooks if 
Available for the PROs, where can 1  get them??? 
From Apple? From  Apple's Apple Store??? etc etc

At 12:38 PM 1/19/2020, you wrote:
I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I 
really needed, but one day in a crowded and very 
noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them 
would allow me to function in noisy environments 
with my phone. Also, there is the privacy 
factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what 
I like most about the second GEN AirPods is the 
size. The case is not much bigger than a dental 
floss case and it fits in the small change 
pocket of my jeans and goes everywhere with me. 
I don’t think you can get that size factor 
with the pro models. It’s so easy to just pop 
one or both of the AirPods in when I need them 
without messing around with large objects such 
as the pro model. They’re very easy to use in 
any environment and come in and out of the case 
so easy it’s no big deal to use them just for 
a minute or two As needed. OK, I’m starting to 
ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll like them very much.
P.S. The second GEN is about the same form 
factor as the wired earbuds only without the 
wire obviously. There is a little stem that 
hangs down about an inch or so from the 
earpiece. There are things called ear hooks 
which will fasten onto that stem and then loop 
around the ear to keep them secure in case 
you’re out in a outdoor environment and you 
don’t want to risk losing one of them.


Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>
> Hi folks!
> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a 
pair of AirPods but now i begin to think about doing that.
> So what i would like to to know if i buy them 
is if i should buy the 2nd gen or the pro ones?
> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are 
there differences in sound quality from the 2nd gen and the pro?

> I also would like to know how they look?
> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
> Many more questions to come.
> Blessings.
> /A
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Re: Airpods

[Brad Snyder]

I have both the original first generation AirPods, and the new AirPods Pro. The 
AirPods Pro fit much more securely in my ear. also, the stem on the AirPods Pro 
is significantly shorter. The case on the AirPods Pro is slightly larger than 
on the earlier models, but I don't find that to be an issue.

The AirPods Pro may cost a bit more, but I believe they are the better choice.

- Brad -

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 15:44, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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I remember buying the first Gen EarPods  and one of them fell under my 
Treadmill when I was doing. A Work out as my ears are so small for these types 
of things.  Well when I found it, I vowed never to buy such a thing again.  I 
now just use Aftershokz bone conduction.

Kawal.

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 20:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day in 
> a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would allow 
> me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
> privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about 
> the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a dental 
> floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
> everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with the pro 
> models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in when I need 
> them without messing around with large objects such as the pro model. They’re 
> very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of the case so easy 
> it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As needed. OK, I’m 
> starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll like them very much.
> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk losing 
> one of them.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks!
>> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i begin 
>> to think about doing that.
>> So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd gen 
>> or the pro ones?
>> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound quality 
>> from the 2nd gen and the pro?
>> I also would like to know how they look?
>> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> Many more questions to come.
>> Blessings.
>> /A
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Re: Airpods

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I remember buying the first Gen EarPods  and one of them fell under my 
Treadmill when I was doing. A Work out as my ears are so small for these types 
of things.  Well when I found it, I vowed never to buy such a thing again.  I 
now just use Aftershokz bone conduction.

Kawal.

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 20:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day in 
> a crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would allow 
> me to function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the 
> privacy factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about 
> the second GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a dental 
> floss case and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and goes 
> everywhere with me. I don’t think you can get that size factor with the pro 
> models. It’s so easy to just pop one or both of the AirPods in when I need 
> them without messing around with large objects such as the pro model. They’re 
> very easy to use in any environment and come in and out of the case so easy 
> it’s no big deal to use them just for a minute or two As needed. OK, I’m 
> starting to ramble. Get the second GEN I think you’ll like them very much.
> P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
> without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
> inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
> fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in 
> case you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk losing 
> one of them.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks!
>> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i begin 
>> to think about doing that.
>> So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd gen 
>> or the pro ones?
>> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound quality 
>> from the 2nd gen and the pro?
>> I also would like to know how they look?
>> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
>> Many more questions to come.
>> Blessings.
>> /A
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Re: Airpods

[Phil Halton]

I also thought that EarPods were nothing that I really needed, but one day in a 
crowded and very noisy Apple Store, I realize that using them would allow me to 
function in noisy environments with my phone. Also, there is the privacy 
factor, no one can hear your phone talking. what I like most about the second 
GEN AirPods is the size. The case is not much bigger than a dental floss case 
and it fits in the small change pocket of my jeans and goes everywhere with me. 
I don’t think you can get that size factor with the pro models. It’s so easy to 
just pop one or both of the AirPods in when I need them without messing around 
with large objects such as the pro model. They’re very easy to use in any 
environment and come in and out of the case so easy it’s no big deal to use 
them just for a minute or two As needed. OK, I’m starting to ramble. Get the 
second GEN I think you’ll like them very much.
P.S. The second GEN is about the same form factor as the wired earbuds only 
without the wire obviously. There is a little stem that hangs down about an 
inch or so from the earpiece. There are things called ear hooks which will 
fasten onto that stem and then loop around the ear to keep them secure in case 
you’re out in a outdoor environment and you don’t want to risk losing one of 
them.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks!
> I said to myself that i never gonna buy me a pair of AirPods but now i begin 
> to think about doing that.
> So what i would like to to know if i buy them is if i should buy the 2nd gen 
> or the pro ones?
> Noice canseling is not nessesary but are there differences in sound quality 
> from the 2nd gen and the pro?
> I also would like to know how they look?
> Do they look like the wired pods from apple or different?
> Many more questions to come.
> Blessings.
> /A
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Re: airpods pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Simon. I'll check out Amazon.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>  
> I don’t have the pro pods but
> I got a product such as this for my series 2 pods from amazon,
>  
> They are a silicon string with little socket like things the pods slot in to 
> at each end.
>  
> I think they cost about 9 dollars USA for 7 different colours
>  
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2020 1:32 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: airpods pro
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I'm waiting for Santa to bring me a pair of AirPods Pro, once they are no 
> longer back-ordered. In anticipation of that exciting event, and mindful of 
> the current thread re lost AirPods, I have the following question. Isn't 
> there some kind of strap you can put on them to keep them together? I thought 
> I read that somewhere. If yes, where does one purchase it?
> TIA,
> Donna
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>  
> I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and didn’t find 
> any information on replacement for a single left or right AirPod Pro, but I 
> feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod Pros are 
> available, but they are not cheap.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin  <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>  
> From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
> (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
> &
> that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
> At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:
> 
> Hi Robin,
>  
> I would ring then and discuss it with them.
>  
> I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to 
> replace it 
>  
> I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
> they would do the same with the pros.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Robin
> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: airpods pro
>  
> Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
> Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
> Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
> At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
> 
> Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
> >  
> I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
> > But I did get something for my second gen pods
> Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
> it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
> It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it fully 
> to the ground…
> br>  
> The power beats pro have a similar ear insert
>  
>  
> Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> ofsarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: airpods pro
>  
> All:
>  
> Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
> Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

I don’t have the pro pods but
I got a product such as this for my series 2 pods from amazon,

They are a silicon string with little socket like things the pods slot in to at 
each end.

I think they cost about 9 dollars USA for 7 different colours


From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2020 1:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: airpods pro

Hi all,

I'm waiting for Santa to bring me a pair of AirPods Pro, once they are no 
longer back-ordered. In anticipation of that exciting event, and mindful of the 
current thread re lost AirPods, I have the following question. Isn't there some 
kind of strap you can put on them to keep them together? I thought I read that 
somewhere. If yes, where does one purchase it?
TIA,
Donna



On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and didn’t find 
any information on replacement for a single left or right AirPod Pro, but I 
feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod Pros are 
available, but they are not cheap.

- Brad -

On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin 
mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
>(Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to replace 
it

I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
they would do the same with the pros.

Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
>
I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it fully 
to the ground…
br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> < 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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Re: airpods pro

[Robin]

Yeah, You could Say that I'm Persistent
Good Luck on acquiring  YourPair of Apple's NEW AirPods PRO
At 05:23 AM 1/3/2020, you wrote:
Wow! You're determined. I decided not to go 
store-hopping. We were traveling for the 
holidays, and I figured I'd rather spend the 
time with friends and family than chasing down 
Airpods. So now that I'm back home, I'm going to just order them online.

Cheers,
Donna


On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Robin 
<<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:


I can Relate because   I was inSearch of Them 
(Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO) about a  Week Ago & 
I  attempted to Track Them down & Purchase 
them  & Luckily for me, the 3rd Time was "The 
Charm" I visited 3  different Apple Stores 
on  3  different Days & 2  out of those 
3  Days, I called to  inquire if that 
Particular Apple Store had  any AirPodsPRO in 
Stock at their  Store, & when I  got to One 
store  they Sold their Stock of AirPodsPRO Prior to My Arrival

At 04:31 AM 1/3/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,

I'm waiting for Santa to bring me a pair of 
AirPods Pro, once they are no longer 
back-ordered. In anticipation of that exciting 
event, and mindful of the current thread re 
lost AirPods, I have the following question. 
Isn't there some kind of strap you can put on 
them to keep them together? I thought I read 
that somewhere. If yes, where does one purchase it?

TIA,
Donna


On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder 
<<mailto:wb...@swbell.net>wb...@swbell.net> wrote:


I don̢۪t think this is true.  I looked on 
the Ap Apple Store app, and didn̢۪t find 
any information on replacement for a 
sinsingle left or right AirPod Pro, but I 
feel certain that I read on Apple Insider 
that replacement AirPod Pros are available, but they are not cheap.


- Brad -


On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin 
<<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>robin-mel...@comcast.net > wrote:


From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide 
replacements  for its AirPodsPRO (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate

&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose 
one you need to be able to replace it


I know they do it as you say with the series 
1 & 2 airpods so I would think they would do the same with the pros.


Good luck.

From: 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase 
Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  Single 
(i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of 
Like  Apple offered  Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods

At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:

Wow, that’s a hell ll of a loss ss 
ss if you don’t find nd it t again.

>
I’m not sure ae about keepinging it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that 
each pod goes in to the end of and it then 
goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It’s still hanhanging around nd 
your neck, meaning you dondon’t lose e it fully to the gr ground…

br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

From: 
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<<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
Of <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
To: 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your 
ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I 
did the test and the seal is fine.

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Re: airpods pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Wow! You're determined. I decided not to go store-hopping. We were traveling 
for the holidays, and I figured I'd rather spend the time with friends and 
family than chasing down Airpods. So now that I'm back home, I'm going to just 
order them online.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> I can Relate because   I was inSearch of Them (Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO) about 
> a  Week Ago & I  attempted to Track Them down & Purchase them  & Luckily for 
> me, the 3rd Time was "The Charm" I visited 3  different Apple Stores on  3  
> different Days & 2  out of those 3  Days, I called to  inquire if that 
> Particular Apple Store had  any AirPodsPRO in Stock at their  Store, & when I 
>  got to One store  they Sold their Stock of AirPodsPRO Prior to My Arrival
> At 04:31 AM 1/3/2020, you wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm waiting for Santa to bring me a pair of AirPods Pro, once they are no 
>> longer back-ordered. In anticipation of that exciting event, and mindful of 
>> the current thread re lost AirPods, I have the following question. Isn't 
>> there some kind of strap you can put on them to keep them together? I 
>> thought I read that somewhere. If yes, where does one purchase it?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and 
>>> didn’t find any information on replacement for a single left or right 
>>> AirPod Pro, but I feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that 
>>> replacement AirPod Pros are available, but they are not cheap.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin >> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
>>> (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
>>> &
>>> that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
>>> At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:
>>>> Hi Robin,
>>>>  
>>>> I would ring then and discuss it with them.
>>>>  
>>>> I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to 
>>>> replace it 
>>>>  
>>>> I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would 
>>>> think they would do the same with the pros.
>>>>  
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin
>>>> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: airpods pro
>>>>  
>>>> Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase 
>>>>  Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
>>>> Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
>>>> At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, that’s a hell of a loss ss ss if you don’t find it t again.
>>>> > 
>>>> I’m not sure about keepinging it in your ear,
>>>> > But I did get something for my second gen pods
>>>> Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of 
>>>> and it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
>>>> It’s still hanging around nd your neck, meaning you dondon’t 
>>>> lose e it fully to the ground…
>>>> br> 
>>>> The power beats pro have a similar ear insert
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>>>> ofsarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: airpods pro
>>>>  
>>>> All:
>>>>  
>>>> Any tip for kee

Re: airpods pro

[Robin]

I can Relate because   I was inSearch of Them 
(Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO) about a  Week Ago & 
I  attempted to Track Them down & Purchase 
them  & Luckily for me, the 3rd Time was "The 
Charm" I visited 3  different Apple Stores 
on  3  different Days & 2  out of those 3  Days, 
I called to  inquire if that Particular Apple 
Store had  any AirPodsPRO in Stock at 
their  Store, & when I  got to One store  they 
Sold their Stock of AirPodsPRO Prior to My Arrival

At 04:31 AM 1/3/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,

I'm waiting for Santa to bring me a pair of 
AirPods Pro, once they are no longer 
back-ordered. In anticipation of that exciting 
event, and mindful of the current thread re lost 
AirPods, I have the following question. Isn't 
there some kind of strap you can put on them to 
keep them together? I thought I read that 
somewhere. If yes, where does one purchase it?

TIA,
Donna


On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder 
<<mailto:wb...@swbell.net>wb...@swbell.net> wrote:


I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the 
Apple Store app, and didn’t find any 
information on replacement for a single left or 
right AirPod Pro, but I feel certain that I 
read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod 
Pros are available, but they are not cheap.


- Brad -


On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin 
<<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:


From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide 
replacements  for its AirPodsPRO (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate

&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose 
one you need to be able to replace it


I know they do it as you say with the series 1 
& 2 airpods so I would think they would do the same with the pros.


Good luck.

From: 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's 
NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  Single (i.e., 
Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple 
offered  Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods

At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:

Wow, that’s a hell of a loss ss ss if you don’t find it t again.
>
I’m not sure about keepinging it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that 
each pod goes in to the end of and it then 
goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It’s still hanging around nd your neck, 
meaning you dondon’t lose e it fully to the ground…

br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

From: 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did 
the test and the seal is fine.

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RE: airpods pro

[Robin]

Didn't know  Users could Purchase Apple's 
AppleCare for Their AirPodsPRO? Gotta investigate that

At 10:12 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

But what about if you have the apple care plus with your pros?

Surely they would replace them then?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 7:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: airpods pro

From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide 
replacements  for its AirPodsPRO (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate

&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose one 
you need to be able to replace it


I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 
2 airpods so I would think they would do the same with the pros.


Good luck.

From: 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's 
NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  Single (i.e., Left 
& Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple 
offered  Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods

At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
Wow, that’s a hell of a loss ss if you donâ€â¢â‚¬â„¢t find it again.
>
I‬™m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each 
pod goes in to the end of and it then goes 
around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It‬™s still hanging around your neck, 
meaning you dondon⢀™t lose it fully to the ground…

/p> br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

From: 
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Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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Re: airpods pro

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I'm waiting for Santa to bring me a pair of AirPods Pro, once they are no 
longer back-ordered. In anticipation of that exciting event, and mindful of the 
current thread re lost AirPods, I have the following question. Isn't there some 
kind of strap you can put on them to keep them together? I thought I read that 
somewhere. If yes, where does one purchase it?
TIA,
Donna
 

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and didn’t find 
> any information on replacement for a single left or right AirPod Pro, but I 
> feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod Pros are 
> available, but they are not cheap.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin  <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
> (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
> &
> that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
> At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>>  
>> I would ring then and discuss it with them.
>>  
>> I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to 
>> replace it 
>>  
>> I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
>> they would do the same with the pros.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin
>> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: airpods pro
>>  
>> Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
>> Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
>> Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
>> At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
>> >  
>> I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear, 
>> > But I did get something for my second gen pods 
>> Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of 
>> and it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
>> It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it 
>> fully to the ground…
>> br>  
>> The power beats pro have a similar ear insert 
>>  
>>  
>> Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> ofsarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: airpods pro
>>  
>> All:
>>  
>> Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
>> Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

I don’t think they would do this,

They would need to be able to replace a lost Pro pod such as they do for the 
series 1 & 2.

Otherwise they are trying to force customers to purchase a costly set of 
headphones  with no option to replace broken or lost doesn’t sound correct.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 7:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: airpods pro

I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and didn’t find 
any information on replacement for a single left or right AirPod Pro, but I 
feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod Pros are 
available, but they are not cheap.

- Brad -

On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin 
mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
>(Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to replace 
it

I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
they would do the same with the pros.

Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
>
I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it fully 
to the ground…
br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

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Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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Re: airpods pro

[Paul Mimms]

One thing to try is looking on Amazon for ear hooks. They attached to the stem 
of the AirPods, all three series. The hook goes around your ear and does pretty 
well and keeping them in your ear rather than on the ground. That’s especially 
useful if you’re only using one at a time

paul8...@gmail.com




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and what you make of it.
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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and didn’t 
> find any information on replacement for a single left or right AirPod Pro, 
> but I feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod Pros 
> are available, but they are not cheap.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
>> (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
>> &
>> that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
>> At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>>  
>> I would ring then and discuss it with them.
>>  
>> I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to 
>> replace it 
>>  
>> I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
>> they would do the same with the pros.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Robin
>> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: airpods pro
>>  
>> Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
>> Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
>> Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
>> At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
>> >  
>> I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear, 
>> > But I did get something for my second gen pods 
>> Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of 
>> and it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
>> It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it 
>> fully to the ground…
>> br>  
>> The power beats pro have a similar ear insert 
>>  
>>  
>> Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
>> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: airpods pro
>>  
>> All:
>>  
>> Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
>> Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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Re: airpods pro

[Brad Snyder]

I don’t think this is true.  I looked on the Apple Store app, and didn’t find 
any information on replacement for a single left or right AirPod Pro, but I 
feel certain that I read on Apple Insider that replacement AirPod Pros are 
available, but they are not cheap.

- Brad -


On Jan 3, 2020, at 00:07, Robin  wrote:

>From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
>(Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:
> Hi Robin,
>  
> I would ring then and discuss it with them.
>  
> I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to 
> replace it 
>  
> I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
> they would do the same with the pros.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robin
> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: airpods pro
>  
> Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
> Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
> Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
> At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
> 
> Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
> >  
> I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear, 
> > But I did get something for my second gen pods 
> Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
> it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
> It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it fully 
> to the ground…
> br>  
> The power beats pro have a similar ear insert 
>  
>  
> Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: airpods pro
>  
> All:
>  
> Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
> Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

But what about if you have the apple care plus with your pros?

Surely they would replace them then?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 7:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: airpods pro

>From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide replacements  for its AirPodsPRO 
>(Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate
&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to replace 
it

I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
they would do the same with the pros.

Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:
Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
>
I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning you dondon̢۪t lose it fully 
to the ground…
br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> < 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Robin]

From what I've Heard Apple doesn't Provide 
replacements  for its AirPodsPRO (Left or Right AirPods) & that's unfortunate

&
that's Why I Try to be Very Careful when Wearin' Them
At 09:09 PM 1/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose one 
you need to be able to replace it


I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 
2 airpods so I would think they would do the same with the pros.


Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's 
NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  Single (i.e., Left 
& Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple 
offered  Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods

At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:

Wow, that̢۪s a hell of a loss ss if you don̢۪t find it again.
>
I̢۪m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
> But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each 
pod goes in to the end of and it then goes 
around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It̢۪s still hanging around your neck, meaning 
you dondon’t lose it fully to the ground…

br>
The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

From: 
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<<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 7:26 AM
To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: airpods pro

All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Robin,

I would ring then and discuss it with them.

I would think yes in the case that you lose one you need to be able to replace 
it

I know they do it as you say with the series 1 & 2 airpods so I would think 
they would do the same with the pros.

Good luck.

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Sent: Friday, 3 January 2020 2:04 AM
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Subject: RE: airpods pro

Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  
Single (i.e., Left & Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple offered  
Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods
At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:

Wow, that’s a hell of a loss if you don’t find it again.

I’m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It’s still hanging around your neck, meaning you don’t lose it fully to the 
ground…

The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

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All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

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Does Apple permit People, Who purchase Apple's 
NEW AirPodsPRO, to purchase  Single (i.e., Left & 
Right) AirPodsPRO? Sort of Like  Apple 
offered  Replacement (For a Price) of its  1stGeneration AirPods

At 06:32 PM 1/1/2020, you wrote:

Wow, that’s a hell of a loss if you don’t find it again.

I’m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each 
pod goes in to the end of and it then goes 
around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It’s still hanging around your neck, meaning 
you don’t lose it fully to the ground…


The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

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All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’d suggest super glue but that wont be good for the air pods pro.



From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 8:53 AM
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Ah, but do the other sizes of AirPod pro actually fall out even if the test 
says they don’t fit well?
Harry


On 1 Jan 2020, at 19:39, 
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I did but the phone thing said they were not a good fit.

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I use a silicon strap, attached at one end via a carabiner to a zip on my 
fleece or gilet pocket, with a single AirPod pro slotted into the hole at the 
otger end of the strap - see AMODN Compatible with AirPods Pro Strap 
Case,Silicone Protective Case Wireless Bluetooth Headset Anti-fall Cover with 
Keychain Red 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZZ7FCN6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_d-odEbFSW8MPY
Have you tried the other sized silicon tips?
Harry



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All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Wow, that’s a hell of a loss if you don’t find it again.

I’m not sure about keeping it in your ear,
But I did get something for my second gen pods
Which is a silicon  string type thing that each pod goes in to the end of and 
it then goes around your neck so that if the pod comes out of your ear,
It’s still hanging around your neck, meaning you don’t lose it fully to the 
ground…

The power beats pro have a similar ear insert


Any chance you can change the silicon insert to a larger size?

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All:

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
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Re: airpods pro

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

Ah, but do the other sizes of AirPod pro actually fall out even if the test 
says they don’t fit well?
Harry

> On 1 Jan 2020, at 19:39, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I did but the phone thing said they were not a good fit.
>  
> From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: airpods pro
>  
> I use a silicon strap, attached at one end via a carabiner to a zip on my 
> fleece or gilet pocket, with a single AirPod pro slotted into the hole at the 
> otger end of the strap - see AMODN Compatible with AirPods Pro Strap 
> Case,Silicone Protective Case Wireless Bluetooth Headset Anti-fall Cover with 
> Keychain Red 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZZ7FCN6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_d-odEbFSW8MPY
> Have you tried the other sized silicon tips?
> Harry
> 
> 
> On 1 Jan 2020, at 18:26, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> All:
>  
> Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
> Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: airpods pro

[sarai.bucciarelli]

I did but the phone thing said they were not a good fit.

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 1:19 PM
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I use a silicon strap, attached at one end via a carabiner to a zip on my 
fleece or gilet pocket, with a single AirPod pro slotted into the hole at the 
otger end of the strap - see AMODN Compatible with AirPods Pro Strap 
Case,Silicone Protective Case Wireless Bluetooth Headset Anti-fall Cover with 
Keychain Red 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZZ7FCN6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_d-odEbFSW8MPY

Have you tried the other sized silicon tips?

Harry





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All:

 

Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.

Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.

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Re: airpods pro

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

I use a silicon strap, attached at one end via a carabiner to a zip on my 
fleece or gilet pocket, with a single AirPod pro slotted into the hole at the 
otger end of the strap - see AMODN Compatible with AirPods Pro Strap 
Case,Silicone Protective Case Wireless Bluetooth Headset Anti-fall Cover with 
Keychain Red 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZZ7FCN6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_d-odEbFSW8MPY
Have you tried the other sized silicon tips?
Harry

> On 1 Jan 2020, at 18:26, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> All:
>  
> Any tip for keeping airpods pro in your ears? I have lost one twice today.
> Never had this issue with the first gen. I did the test and the seal is fine.
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RE: Airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

I hope it’s good, can’t go back!

I’m waiting on my 11”  mac book air to be repaired and I’ll install it on that 
for a trial period before going crazy on my mac book pro.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpods pro

Agreed.
I just upgraded my Mac too Catalina, so far so good.


On 31/10/2019, at 12:48, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah Bose are great,

I’ve got a pair and never use them.

My airpods S2 and power beats pro work great and therefore no need to spend 
more on something that isn’t going to work any different.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Airpods pro

Nope, not that I’m interested anyway.  Love my Bose headphones and I don’t like 
anything in my ear.



On 31/10/2019, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

But will she be getting you a set of these?

Yeah I’m kind of getting p’d that apple price us out of the market for things 
like these,


With the apple care Plus warranty these pods pro go up to 500

Which would get me 2 sets of normal airpods
Or god knows how many sets of other Bluetooth earpod type headphones.

A friend got 2 pair of bt Blueant earpod type headphones for $110
And they seem pretty good for what they are.


From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On
 Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 8:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Airpods pro

My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting 
these.




On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.

They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that 
point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,

So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving around?

Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!

And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the 
airpods arm,

So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on 
them?

And again the wireless charging case,
How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi 
charging pad?

An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!


Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort 
headphones then I might think about buying a set,
But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!

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Re: Airpods pro

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Agreed.
I just upgraded my Mac too Catalina, so far so good.  

> On 31/10/2019, at 12:48, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah Bose are great,
>  
> I’ve got a pair and never use them.
>  
> My airpods S2 and power beats pro work great and therefore no need to spend 
> more on something that isn’t going to work any different.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:06 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpods pro
>  
> Nope, not that I’m interested anyway.  Love my Bose headphones and I don’t 
> like anything in my ear. 
> 
> 
> On 31/10/2019, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> But will she be getting you a set of these?
>  
> Yeah I’m kind of getting p’d that apple price us out of the market for things 
> like these,
>  
>  
> With the apple care Plus warranty these pods pro go up to 500
>  
> Which would get me 2 sets of normal airpods
> Or god knows how many sets of other Bluetooth earpod type headphones.
>  
> A friend got 2 pair of bt Blueant earpod type headphones for $110
> And they seem pretty good for what they are.
>  
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 8:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Airpods pro
>  
> My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting 
> these.
> 
> 
> 
> On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.
>  
> They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that 
> point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,
>  
> So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving around?
>  
> Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!
>  
> And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the 
> airpods arm,
>  
> So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on 
> them?
>  
> And again the wireless charging case,
> How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi 
> charging pad?
>  
> An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!
>  
>  
> Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort 
> headphones then I might think about buying a set,
> But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!
>  
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Re: Airpods pro

[lenron brown]

I prefer over the ear headsets myself, but when I need something small
ear buds work.

On 10/30/19, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Yeah Bose are great,
>
> I’ve got a pair and never use them.
>
> My airpods S2 and power beats pro work great and therefore no need to spend
> more on something that isn’t going to work any different.
>
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:06 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpods pro
>
> Nope, not that I’m interested anyway.  Love my Bose headphones and I don’t
> like anything in my ear.
>
>
> On 31/10/2019, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty
> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>
> But will she be getting you a set of these?
>
> Yeah I’m kind of getting p’d that apple price us out of the market for
> things like these,
>
>
> With the apple care Plus warranty these pods pro go up to 500
>
> Which would get me 2 sets of normal airpods
> Or god knows how many sets of other Bluetooth earpod type headphones.
>
> A friend got 2 pair of bt Blueant earpod type headphones for $110
> And they seem pretty good for what they are.
>
>
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 8:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Airpods pro
>
> My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting
> these.
>
>
>
> On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty
> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>
> I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.
>
> They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that
> point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,
>
> So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving
> around?
>
> Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!
>
> And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the
> airpods arm,
>
> So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on
> them?
>
> And again the wireless charging case,
> How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi
> charging pad?
>
> An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!
>
>
> Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort
> headphones then I might think about buying a set,
> But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!
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RE: Airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah Bose are great,

I’ve got a pair and never use them.

My airpods S2 and power beats pro work great and therefore no need to spend 
more on something that isn’t going to work any different.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpods pro

Nope, not that I’m interested anyway.  Love my Bose headphones and I don’t like 
anything in my ear.


On 31/10/2019, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

But will she be getting you a set of these?

Yeah I’m kind of getting p’d that apple price us out of the market for things 
like these,


With the apple care Plus warranty these pods pro go up to 500

Which would get me 2 sets of normal airpods
Or god knows how many sets of other Bluetooth earpod type headphones.

A friend got 2 pair of bt Blueant earpod type headphones for $110
And they seem pretty good for what they are.


From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 8:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Airpods pro

My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting 
these.



On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.

They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that 
point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,

So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving around?

Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!

And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the 
airpods arm,

So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on 
them?

And again the wireless charging case,
How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi 
charging pad?

An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!


Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort 
headphones then I might think about buying a set,
But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!

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Re: Airpods pro

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Nope, not that I’m interested anyway.  Love my Bose headphones and I don’t like 
anything in my ear. 

> On 31/10/2019, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> But will she be getting you a set of these?
>  
> Yeah I’m kind of getting p’d that apple price us out of the market for things 
> like these,
>  
>  
> With the apple care Plus warranty these pods pro go up to 500
>  
> Which would get me 2 sets of normal airpods
> Or god knows how many sets of other Bluetooth earpod type headphones.
>  
> A friend got 2 pair of bt Blueant earpod type headphones for $110
> And they seem pretty good for what they are.
>  
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 8:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpods pro
>  
> My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting 
> these.
> 
> 
> On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.
>  
> They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that 
> point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,
>  
> So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving around?
>  
> Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!
>  
> And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the 
> airpods arm,
>  
> So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on 
> them?
>  
> And again the wireless charging case,
> How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi 
> charging pad?
>  
> An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!
>  
>  
> Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort 
> headphones then I might think about buying a set,
> But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!
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RE: Airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

But will she be getting you a set of these?

Yeah I’m kind of getting p’d that apple price us out of the market for things 
like these,


With the apple care Plus warranty these pods pro go up to 500

Which would get me 2 sets of normal airpods
Or god knows how many sets of other Bluetooth earpod type headphones.

A friend got 2 pair of bt Blueant earpod type headphones for $110
And they seem pretty good for what they are.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 8:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Airpods pro

My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting 
these.


On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.

They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that 
point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,

So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving around?

Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!

And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the 
airpods arm,

So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on 
them?

And again the wireless charging case,
How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi 
charging pad?

An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!


Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort 
headphones then I might think about buying a set,
But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!

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Re: Airpods pro

[Petrus Tuerlings]

My wife totally agreed with you ,  and she doesn’t think she will be getting 
these.

> On 30/10/2019, at 20:02, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I’ve just been reading up on these new airpods and I’m slightly confused.
>  
> They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that 
> point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,
>  
> So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving around?
>  
> Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!
>  
> And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the 
> airpods arm,
>  
> So if they can put that switch there, why can’t they put volume controls on 
> them?
>  
> And again the wireless charging case,
> How does a blind person know when it’s actually charging if its on a qi 
> charging pad?
>  
> An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!
>  
>  
> Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort 
> headphones then I might think about buying a set,
> But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!
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RE: Airpods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yet the power beats pro 
To me the best of the airpods so far,

 They are a good quality airpod 
With great sound,
Play / pause,
Back / forward 
Volume controls 
And a nearly complete noise cancellation 

I'm not really a fan of the insert buds that the power beats pro and the new 
airpod pro have,
But after a while they have grown on me
Which is why I don't mind using them more now that my s2 airpods are being 
repaired.

The more I read about the airpod pro the more I'm really starting to think 
about If I will get a pair,
However unemployment for 4 months is making funds limited which is the more 
concerning issue.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2019 8:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpods pro

That's one of the things that really suck about Airpods, no volume control and 
you can't skip back when changing tracks.

On 10/30/19, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> I've just been reading up on these new airpods and I'm slightly confused.
>
> They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at 
> that point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,
>
> So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving 
> around?
>
> Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!
>
> And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side 
> of the airpods arm,
>
> So if they can put that switch there, why can't they put volume 
> controls on them?
>
> And again the wireless charging case,
> How does a blind person know when it's actually charging if its on a 
> qi charging pad?
>
> An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!
>
>
> Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet 
> comfort headphones then I might think about buying a set, But only if 
> they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!
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Re: Airpods pro

[lenron brown]

That's one of the things that really suck about Airpods, no volume
control and you can't skip back when changing tracks.

On 10/30/19, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> I've just been reading up on these new airpods and I'm slightly confused.
>
> They have the silicon tip on the ear peace so they must be narrower at that
> point than the Series 1 & 2 airpods,
>
> So what is holding them in your ears when listening to them or moving
> around?
>
> Is it just the silicon ear peace into the ear canal!
>
> And the transparency mode is enabled by pressing a button on the side of the
> airpods arm,
>
> So if they can put that switch there, why can't they put volume controls on
> them?
>
> And again the wireless charging case,
> How does a blind person know when it's actually charging if its on a qi
> charging pad?
>
> An LED is great but what about a tone / noise that lets us know!
>
>
> Otherwise if they are as good if not better than the bose quiet comfort
> headphones then I might think about buying a set,
> But only if they come with a personal airpod fitting assistant!
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RE: AirPods or not?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Anders if you don't like in ear then you wont like the power beats pro,

They are fully in ear, little silicon rubber things that slide in to your ear 
channel to give an almost noise cancelling feel to them 

Other than that they are great.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2019 5:29 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: AirPods or not?

Hi!
No I haven't thought of the power beats.
Depends on the price.
My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide.
/A
> 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin :
> 
> Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro as an Option for Wireless 
> BlueTooth, as I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far Better on  Them than  
> Apple's AirPods, but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in that They can be 
>  Charged wirelessly, & as far as I   know the PowerBeats Pro don't have that 
> Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)
> At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> Hi friends on the list!
>> Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t think of buying them as they 
>> seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>> Then came the second edition and I still didn’t want them as I  was 
>> thinking that I didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
>> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something that’s 
>> really small when I go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
>> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to bulky 
>> to put in a jacket.
>> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they take 
>> up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the year 
>> for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are things I 
>> should be aware of?
>> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or 
>> other annoying bugs?
>> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
>> THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
>> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the 
>> EarPods?
>> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> /A
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RE: AirPods or not?

[Simon A Fogarty]

The beats have about 9 hours,

 The beats also don't currently have wireless charging in the case they have 
with them.

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Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2019 5:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods or not?

Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro as an Option for Wireless 
BlueTooth, as I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far Better on  Them than  
Apple's AirPods, but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in that They can 
be  Charged wirelessly, & as far as I   know the 
PowerBeats Pro don't have that Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration) 
At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>Hi friends on the list!
>Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t think of buying them as 
>they seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>Then came the second edition and I still didn’t want them as I  was 
>thinking that I didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
>But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something 
>that’s really small when I go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
>I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to 
>bulky to put in a jacket.
>Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they 
>take up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the 
>year for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are 
>things I should be aware of?
>Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user 
>or other annoying bugs?
>Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
>THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
>They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as 
>the EarPods?
>Thanks in advance for all answers.
>/A
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RE: AirPods or not?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Anders,

 I have both the earpods second gen and the power beats pro 

 For battery life the power beats have it over the earpods and the beats also 
have on device buttons for volume play pause etc.

They also have hooks that go over the top of your ears to stop them falling out 
and the sound quality is fantastic 
 Slightly larger than the earpods so don't fit in a pocket as well but they are 
really worth while looking at if you can.

 The earpods are great also, I get great usage from them and they tuck away in 
the charging case and fit in my pocket be it jeans or jacket it doesn't matter,

I put them on my charging pad with the wifi charging they are fully charged in 
a matter of minutes almost.

Again sound quality is pretty dam good but they are small and I do wonder how 
I'd go if I dropped them, but as yet I haven't as they sit in my ears very 
comfortably without movement or anything.
You can also purchase a little strap thing that connects to the pods and goes 
around the back of your neck to ensure that if they fall out you don't lose 
them.

 What it really comes down to is what your willing to pay as the beats are 
slightly more than the earpods but the earpods have wifi charging.the beats 
don't.
 
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2019 4:57 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: AirPods or not?

Hi friends on the list!
Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t think of buying them as they seem 
to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
Then came the second edition and I still didn’t want them as I  was thinking 
that I didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something that’s 
really small when I go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to bulky to 
put in a jacket.
Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they take up 
a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the year 
for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are things I should 
be aware of?
Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or other 
annoying bugs?
Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the 
EarPods?
Thanks in advance for all answers.
/A

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Re: AirPods or not?

[Maria Reyes]

I use my AirPods all the time. the audio is pretty good. but I'm sure there are 
different alternatives to the AirPods. 

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> On Sep 20, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> this is True, but They have been Known  to be Reduced to about $199
> At 12:42 PM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> Hello,
>> The powerbeats pro are $250.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>> > On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > the PowerBeats PRO  Wireless EarBuds  cots More Then  Apple's AirPods ... 
>> > Approximately $50 More as I recall
>> > At 10:28 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> >> Hi!
>> >> No I haven't thought of the power beats.
>> >> Depends on the price.
>> >> My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide.
>> >> /A
>> >> > 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin :
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro as an Option for Wireless 
>> >> > BlueTooth, as I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far Better on  Them 
>> >> > than  Apple's AirPods, but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in that 
>> >> > They can be  Charged wirelessly, & as far as I   know the PowerBeats 
>> >> > Pro don't have that Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)
>> >> > At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> >> >> Hi friends on the list!
>> >> >> Actually when the AirPods came out I didnâ€â„„¢t thinkink of buying 
>> >> >> them as they seem to have not as good battery as other wireless 
>> >> >> headphones.
>> >> >> Then came the second edition and I still didnâ€ââ„¢t wt want them 
>> >> >> as I  was thinking that I didnâ€ââ„¢t need all kl kinds of gadgets 
>> >> >> that all other have.
>> >> >> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something 
>> >> >> that’s really small when I go out taking the busbus or goinoing 
>> >> >> by taxi.
>> >> >> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but 
>> >> >> they’re to bulky to put in a jacket.
>> .
>> >> >> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they 
>> >> >> take up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> >> >> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in 
>> >> >> the year for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there 
>> >> >> are things I should be aware of?
>> >> >> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user 
>> >> >> or other annoying bugs?
>> >> >> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the 
>> >> >> other?
>> >> >> THey’re really small so it can actually ly happen.
>> >> .
>> >> >> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> >> >> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as 
>> >> >> the EarPods?
>> >> >> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> >> >> /A
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Re: AirPods or not?

[Robin]

this is True, but They have been Known  to be Reduced to about $199
At 12:42 PM 9/20/2019, you wrote:

Hello,
The powerbeats pro are $250.

Greg Wocher


> On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> the PowerBeats PRO  Wireless EarBuds  cots 
More Then  Apple's AirPods ... Approximately $50 More as I recall

> At 10:28 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> Hi!
>> No I haven't thought of the power beats.
>> Depends on the price.
>> My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide.
>> /A
>> > 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin :
>> >
>> > Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats 
Pro as an Option for Wireless BlueTooth, as 
I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far 
Better on  Them than  Apple's AirPods, 
but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in 
that They can be  Charged wirelessly, & as far 
as I   know the PowerBeats Pro don't have that 
Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)

>> > At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> >> Hi friends on the list!
>> >> Actually when the AirPods came out I 
didnâ€â„„¢t thinkink of buying them as they 
seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>> >> Then came the second edition and I still 
didnâ€ââ„¢t wt want them as I  was thinking 
that I didnâ€ââ„¢t need all kl kinds of gadgets that all other have.
>> >> But now I sit here and thinking of buying 
them as I need something that’s really 
small when I go out taking the busbus or goinoing by taxi.
>> >> I have a lot of headphones here as I am 
an audio geek but they’re to bulky to put in a jacket.

.
>> >> Even though my marshal Major III 
Bluetooth which are foldable but they take up a 
lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> >> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. 
So if I buy these later in the year for my 
birthday or Christmas I would like to know if 
there are things I should be aware of?
>> >> Are there a lot of bugs that are really 
annoying for a VoiceOver user or other annoying bugs?
>> >> Also I would like to have some tips on 
how to not drop one or the other?

>> >> THey’re really small so it can actually ly happen.
>> .
>> >> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> >> There are alternatives out there but I 
wonder if they are as good as the EarPods?

>> >> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> >> /A
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Re: AirPods or not?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
The powerbeats pro are $250.

Greg Wocher


> On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> the PowerBeats PRO  Wireless EarBuds  cots More Then  Apple's AirPods ... 
> Approximately $50 More as I recall
> At 10:28 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> Hi!
>> No I haven't thought of the power beats.
>> Depends on the price.
>> My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide.
>> /A
>> > 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin :
>> >
>> > Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro as an Option for Wireless 
>> > BlueTooth, as I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far Better on  Them 
>> > than  Apple's AirPods, but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in that 
>> > They can be  Charged wirelessly, & as far as I   know the PowerBeats Pro 
>> > don't have that Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)
>> > At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> >> Hi friends on the list!
>> >> Actually when the AirPods came out I didn̢۪t thinkink of buying them as 
>> >> they seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>> >> Then came the second edition and I still didn̢۪t wt want them as I  was 
>> >> thinking that I didn̢۪t need all kl kinds of gadgets that all other 
>> >> have.
>> >> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something 
>> >> that̢۪s really small when I go out taking the bus or goinoing by taxi.
>> >> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to 
>> >> bulky to put in a jacket.
>> >> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they 
>> >> take up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> >> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the 
>> >> year for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are 
>> >> things I should be aware of?
>> >> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or 
>> >> other annoying bugs?
>> >> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
>> >> THey̢۪re really small so it can actually happen.
>> .
>> >> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> >> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the 
>> >> EarPods?
>> >> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> >> /A
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Re: AirPods or not?

[Robin]

the PowerBeats PRO  Wireless EarBuds  cots More 
Then  Apple's AirPods ... Approximately $50 More as I recall

At 10:28 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:

Hi!
No I haven't thought of the power beats.
Depends on the price.
My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide.
/A
> 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin :
>
> Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro 
as an Option for Wireless BlueTooth, as 
I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far 
Better on  Them than  Apple's AirPods, 
but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in 
that They can be  Charged wirelessly, & as far 
as I   know the PowerBeats Pro don't have that 
Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)

> At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> Hi friends on the list!
>> Actually when the AirPods came out I 
didn̢۪t thinkink of buying them as they seem 
to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>> Then came the second edition and I still 
didn̢۪t wt want them as I  was thinking that 
I didn̢۪t need all kl kinds of gadgets that all other have.
>> But now I sit here and thinking of buying 
them as I need something that̢۪s really small 
when I go out taking the bus or goinoing by taxi.
>> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an 
audio geek but they’re to bulky to put in a jacket.
>> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth 
which are foldable but they take up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So 
if I buy these later in the year for my 
birthday or Christmas I would like to know if 
there are things I should be aware of?
>> Are there a lot of bugs that are really 
annoying for a VoiceOver user or other annoying bugs?

>> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
>> THey̢۪re really small so it can actually happen.
.
>> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> There are alternatives out there but I 
wonder if they are as good as the EarPods?

>> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> /A
>>
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Re: AirPods or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No I haven't thought of the power beats.
Depends on the price.
My economy is not good so I have to think twice before I decide.
/A
> 20 sep. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Robin :
> 
> Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro as an Option for Wireless 
> BlueTooth, as I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far Better on  Them than  
> Apple's AirPods, but  Apple's AirPods have the Advantage  in that They can be 
>  Charged wirelessly, & as far as I   know the PowerBeats Pro don't have that 
> Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)
> At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:
>> Hi friends on the list!
>> Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t think of buying them as they 
>> seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>> Then came the second edition and I still didn’t want them as I  was 
>> thinking that I didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
>> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something that’s 
>> really small when I go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
>> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to bulky 
>> to put in a jacket.
>> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they take 
>> up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the year 
>> for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are things I 
>> should be aware of?
>> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or 
>> other annoying bugs?
>> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
>> THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
>> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the 
>> EarPods?
>> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Actually I don’t like the in-ear things.
Not even these normal EarPods with comes with apple devices.
But they seem so small and has from what I’ve heard a quite good sound.
I thought Apple would announce there headphones it was rumores about earlier 
this year.
But maybe I will try them out.
/A

> 20 sep. 2019 kl. 18:58 skrev lenron brown :
> 
> I got them, They are alright. I hate the battery life and at times
> they fall out of my ears. So of course I worry about losing them. I
> would say buy them and try them out.
> 
> On 9/20/19, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi friends on the list!
>> Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t think of buying them as they
>> seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
>> Then came the second edition and I still didn’t want them as I  was thinking
>> that I didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
>> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something that’s
>> really small when I go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
>> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to bulky
>> to put in a jacket.
>> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they take
>> up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
>> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the year
>> for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are things I
>> should be aware of?
>> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or
>> other annoying bugs?
>> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
>> THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
>> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
>> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the
>> EarPods?
>> Thanks in advance for all answers.
>> /A
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Re: AirPods or not?

[Robin]

Have you Consider'd  Apple's  PowerBeats Pro as 
an Option for Wireless BlueTooth, as 
I  understand it, the BatteryLife  is Far Better 
on  Them than  Apple's AirPods, but  Apple's 
AirPods have the Advantage  in that They can 
be  Charged wirelessly, & as far as I   know the 
PowerBeats Pro don't have that Feature (at Least not  in the Latest iteration)

At 09:56 AM 9/20/2019, you wrote:

Hi friends on the list!
Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t 
think of buying them as they seem to have not as 
good battery as other wireless headphones.
Then came the second edition and I still 
didn’t want them as I  was thinking that I 
didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
But now I sit here and thinking of buying them 
as I need something that’s really small when I 
go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio 
geek but they’re to bulky to put in a jacket.
Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which 
are foldable but they take up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I 
buy these later in the year for my birthday or 
Christmas I would like to know if there are things I should be aware of?
Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying 
for a VoiceOver user or other annoying bugs?

Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
There are alternatives out there but I wonder if 
they are as good as the EarPods?

Thanks in advance for all answers.
/A

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Re: AirPods or not?

[lenron brown]

I got them, They are alright. I hate the battery life and at times
they fall out of my ears. So of course I worry about losing them. I
would say buy them and try them out.

On 9/20/19, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi friends on the list!
> Actually when the AirPods came out I didn’t think of buying them as they
> seem to have not as good battery as other wireless headphones.
> Then came the second edition and I still didn’t want them as I  was thinking
> that I didn’t need all kinds of gadgets that all other have.
> But now I sit here and thinking of buying them as I need something that’s
> really small when I go out taking the bus or going by taxi.
> I have a lot of headphones here as I am an audio geek but they’re to bulky
> to put in a jacket.
> Even though my marshal Major III Bluetooth which are foldable but they take
> up a lot of space in a pocket on a jacket.
> Th AirPods really seems to fit my needs. So if I buy these later in the year
> for my birthday or Christmas I would like to know if there are things I
> should be aware of?
> Are there a lot of bugs that are really annoying for a VoiceOver user or
> other annoying bugs?
> Also I would like to have some tips on how to not drop one or the other?
> THey’re really small so it can actually happen.
> They are a bit pricy though so I am not sure I can afford them.
> There are alternatives out there but I wonder if they are as good as the
> EarPods?
> Thanks in advance for all answers.
> /A
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RE: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?, iMore

[blindathlete6]

I will be interested to know if there is still some lag when they are used with 
VoiceOver.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 6:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you 
upgrade)?, iMore

Durty rotten scowndral,
I ordered mine Friday morning and I've been told 9 to 16 april Yet you get 
yours on the way already.

 Crazy.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Monday, 25 March 2019 12:46 PM
To: guillaumelebo...@hotmail.com 
Subject: Re: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you 
upgrade)?, iMore

I had to buy some as I lost my first airpod pair during my trip to thailand. 
Just got an SMS saying they're on their way.

I wouldn't see much improvement apart from what's mentioned, which is enough 
for me as I like them for their convenience.




> On 25 Mar 2019, at 9:13 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> thanks and again interesting,
> 
> I've already purchased mine however they wont be with me until sometime 
> between 09 -16th april about 3 weeks from purchsing on friday 22 march.
> 
> I purchased them due to the lacking battery power I'm not sure if from the 
> pods or the case but I'll see when the pods 2 arrive.
> 
> 
> the only thing I'm really quesitoning now is what's going to be the 
> best charging mat to use, a 5 or 7.5V?
> 
> 7.5 is what I have for my phone.
> no one seems to have stated that yet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 25 March 2019 6:07 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should 
> you upgrade)?, iMore
> 
> AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?
> By Lory Gil, 23 Mar 2019
> 
> Apple's first-generation AirPods perfected automatic connection to any Apple 
> device you're signed in with your Apple ID. Switching between devices is 
> automagical.
> $159 at Amazon
> Apple's second-generation AirPods are a slight improvement over the first-gen 
> with better audio and voice quality, longer talk time, and support for 
> voice-activated Siri.
> $159 at Amazon
> The differences between the first and second-generation AirPods is small, and 
> in some ways, not different at all (the price, for example). Because of the 
> minor upgrade, it becomes even more difficult to decide which version to buy. 
> Should you upgrade from Gen 1? Should you get the wireless Charging Case? 
> Let's break it all down.
> 
> AirPods 1 vs AirPods 2: The specs
> AirPods 1,AirPods 2
> Battery life (talk)   2 hours,3 hours
> battery life (music)  5 hours,5 hours
> Chipset   W1, H1
> Bluetooth version 5.0,5.0
> Siri connection   double-tap to activate, Voice-activated or double-tap
> Wireless charging with additional wireless Charging Case purchase with
> wireless Charging Case
> iOS system requirements   iOS 10 or later,iOS 12.2 or later
> watchOS system requirements   watchOS 3 or later, watchOS 5.2 or later
> macOS system requirements macOS High Sierra or later, macOS
> 10.14.4 or later
> Apple TV support  Yes,Yes
> 
> Should you upgrade from AirPods 1?
> The short answer here is no. Keep reading if you want to know about how I 
> feel, though.
> The biggest updates from the first to second generation AirPods are the H1 
> chipset (which has a few benefits), longer talk time, and support for 
> voice-activated Siri. The changes are not that significant. Not enough, at 
> least, for me to recommend you upgrade from your first-generation AirPods.
> Plus, Apple didn't change the look of AirPods at all from the first 
> generation to the second. They have the same speaker placement, which doesn't 
> necessarily work with all ears, and still only come in white. If you're 
> hoping to show off how much cooler you are then everyone else with the latest 
> AirPods, no one's going to be able to tell the difference.
> With that being said, here are a few things for you to consider before making 
> your final decision.
> The H1 chip is a big improvement over the W1 The "W" series of chipsets 
> focuses on Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connecting and is used in various wireless 
> headphones, like Beats, as well as the Apple Watch line.
> The brand new "H" series is Apple's headphones focused chipset. It's designed 
> to provide faster connectivity, higher-quality audio, and lower latency for 
> such things as gaming.
> The H1 chip improves upon the W1 chip in the fo

RE: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?, iMore

[Simon Fogarty]

Durty rotten scowndral,
I ordered mine Friday morning and I've been told 9 to 16 april 
Yet you get yours on the way already.

 Crazy.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Monday, 25 March 2019 12:46 PM
To: guillaumelebo...@hotmail.com 
Subject: Re: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you 
upgrade)?, iMore

I had to buy some as I lost my first airpod pair during my trip to thailand. 
Just got an SMS saying they're on their way.

I wouldn't see much improvement apart from what's mentioned, which is enough 
for me as I like them for their convenience.




> On 25 Mar 2019, at 9:13 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> thanks and again interesting,
> 
> I've already purchased mine however they wont be with me until sometime 
> between 09 -16th april about 3 weeks from purchsing on friday 22 march.
> 
> I purchased them due to the lacking battery power I'm not sure if from the 
> pods or the case but I'll see when the pods 2 arrive.
> 
> 
> the only thing I'm really quesitoning now is what's going to be the 
> best charging mat to use, a 5 or 7.5V?
> 
> 7.5 is what I have for my phone.
> no one seems to have stated that yet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 25 March 2019 6:07 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should 
> you upgrade)?, iMore
> 
> AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?
> By Lory Gil, 23 Mar 2019
> 
> Apple's first-generation AirPods perfected automatic connection to any Apple 
> device you're signed in with your Apple ID. Switching between devices is 
> automagical.
> $159 at Amazon
> Apple's second-generation AirPods are a slight improvement over the first-gen 
> with better audio and voice quality, longer talk time, and support for 
> voice-activated Siri.
> $159 at Amazon
> The differences between the first and second-generation AirPods is small, and 
> in some ways, not different at all (the price, for example). Because of the 
> minor upgrade, it becomes even more difficult to decide which version to buy. 
> Should you upgrade from Gen 1? Should you get the wireless Charging Case? 
> Let's break it all down.
> 
> AirPods 1 vs AirPods 2: The specs
> AirPods 1,AirPods 2
> Battery life (talk)   2 hours,3 hours
> battery life (music)  5 hours,5 hours
> Chipset   W1, H1
> Bluetooth version 5.0,5.0
> Siri connection   double-tap to activate, Voice-activated or double-tap
> Wireless charging with additional wireless Charging Case purchase with
> wireless Charging Case
> iOS system requirements   iOS 10 or later,iOS 12.2 or later
> watchOS system requirements   watchOS 3 or later, watchOS 5.2 or later
> macOS system requirements macOS High Sierra or later, macOS
> 10.14.4 or later
> Apple TV support  Yes,Yes
> 
> Should you upgrade from AirPods 1?
> The short answer here is no. Keep reading if you want to know about how I 
> feel, though.
> The biggest updates from the first to second generation AirPods are the H1 
> chipset (which has a few benefits), longer talk time, and support for 
> voice-activated Siri. The changes are not that significant. Not enough, at 
> least, for me to recommend you upgrade from your first-generation AirPods.
> Plus, Apple didn't change the look of AirPods at all from the first 
> generation to the second. They have the same speaker placement, which doesn't 
> necessarily work with all ears, and still only come in white. If you're 
> hoping to show off how much cooler you are then everyone else with the latest 
> AirPods, no one's going to be able to tell the difference.
> With that being said, here are a few things for you to consider before making 
> your final decision.
> The H1 chip is a big improvement over the W1 The "W" series of chipsets 
> focuses on Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connecting and is used in various wireless 
> headphones, like Beats, as well as the Apple Watch line.
> The brand new "H" series is Apple's headphones focused chipset. It's designed 
> to provide faster connectivity, higher-quality audio, and lower latency for 
> such things as gaming.
> The H1 chip improves upon the W1 chip in the following ways
> . Up to 50% More talk time
> . 2X faster switching between devices
> . Faster connection to phone calls
> . Stronger connectivity
> . 30% lower latency for gaming
> . Support for voice-activated Siri
> If the bane of your existence is that it can take too long to switch your 
> AirPods from you

Re: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?, iMore

[lenron brown]

Hmm nope will be waiting for version 3 I think. I don't even use the
ones I have all the time like that. Now that my watch screen is
screwed probably less now.

On 3/24/19, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> I had to buy some as I lost my first airpod pair during my trip to thailand.
> Just got an SMS saying they're on their way.
>
> I wouldn't see much improvement apart from what's mentioned, which is enough
> for me as I like them for their convenience.
>
>
>
>
>> On 25 Mar 2019, at 9:13 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> thanks and again interesting,
>>
>> I've already purchased mine however they wont be with me until sometime
>> between 09 -16th april about 3 weeks from purchsing on friday 22 march.
>>
>> I purchased them due to the lacking battery power I'm not sure if from the
>> pods or the case but I'll see when the pods 2 arrive.
>>
>>
>> the only thing I'm really quesitoning now is what's going to be the best
>> charging mat to use,
>> a 5 or 7.5V?
>>
>> 7.5 is what I have for my phone.
>> no one seems to have stated that yet.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 25 March 2019 6:07 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you
>> upgrade)?, iMore
>>
>> AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?
>> By Lory Gil, 23 Mar 2019
>>
>> Apple's first-generation AirPods perfected automatic connection to any
>> Apple device you're signed in with your Apple ID. Switching between
>> devices is automagical.
>> $159 at Amazon
>> Apple's second-generation AirPods are a slight improvement over the
>> first-gen with better audio and voice quality, longer talk time, and
>> support for voice-activated Siri.
>> $159 at Amazon
>> The differences between the first and second-generation AirPods is small,
>> and in some ways, not different at all (the price, for example). Because
>> of the minor upgrade, it becomes even more difficult to decide which
>> version to buy. Should you upgrade from Gen 1? Should you get the wireless
>> Charging Case? Let's break it all down.
>>
>> AirPods 1 vs AirPods 2: The specs
>> AirPods 1,   AirPods 2
>> Battery life (talk)  2 hours,3 hours
>> battery life (music) 5 hours,5 hours
>> Chipset  W1, H1
>> Bluetooth version5.0,5.0
>> Siri connection  double-tap to activate, Voice-activated or double-tap
>> Wireless chargingwith additional wireless Charging Case purchase with
>> wireless Charging Case
>> iOS system requirements  iOS 10 or later,iOS 12.2 or later
>> watchOS system requirements  watchOS 3 or later, watchOS 5.2 or later
>> macOS system requirementsmacOS High Sierra or later, macOS
>> 10.14.4 or later
>> Apple TV support Yes,Yes
>>
>> Should you upgrade from AirPods 1?
>> The short answer here is no. Keep reading if you want to know about how I
>> feel, though.
>> The biggest updates from the first to second generation AirPods are the H1
>> chipset (which has a few benefits), longer talk time, and support for
>> voice-activated Siri. The changes are not that significant. Not enough, at
>> least, for me to recommend you upgrade from your first-generation
>> AirPods.
>> Plus, Apple didn't change the look of AirPods at all from the first
>> generation to the second. They have the same speaker placement, which
>> doesn't necessarily work with all ears, and still only come in white. If
>> you're hoping to show off how much cooler you are then everyone else with
>> the latest AirPods, no one's going to be able to tell the difference.
>> With that being said, here are a few things for you to consider before
>> making your final decision.
>> The H1 chip is a big improvement over the W1 The "W" series of chipsets
>> focuses on Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connecting and is used in various wireless
>> headphones, like Beats, as well as the Apple Watch line.
>> The brand new "H" series is Apple's headphones focused chipset. It's
>> designed to provide faster connectivity, higher-quality audio, and lower
>> latency for such things as gaming.
>> The H1 chip improves upon the W1 chip in the following ways
>> .Up to 50% More talk time
>> .2X faster switching between devices
>> .Faster connection to phone calls
>> .Stronger connectivity
>> .30% lower latency for gaming
>> .Support for voice-activated Siri
>> If the bane of your existence is that it can take too long to switch your
>> AirPods from your iPhone to your Mac, or if you accidentally curse at your
>> boss because you're in a rage because your AirPods didn't switch fast
>> enough from listening to music or answering the phone, the upgrade starts
>> to look much more appealing.
>> If you've tried playing Fortnight on your iPhone with AirPods and threw
>> them in the trash because the lag time was atrocious, you should think
>> about upgrading from the first-generation to the 

Re: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?, iMore

[Yuma Decaux]

I had to buy some as I lost my first airpod pair during my trip to thailand. 
Just got an SMS saying they're on their way.

I wouldn't see much improvement apart from what's mentioned, which is enough 
for me as I like them for their convenience.




> On 25 Mar 2019, at 9:13 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> thanks and again interesting,
> 
> I've already purchased mine however they wont be with me until sometime 
> between 09 -16th april about 3 weeks from purchsing on friday 22 march.
> 
> I purchased them due to the lacking battery power I'm not sure if from the 
> pods or the case but I'll see when the pods 2 arrive.
> 
> 
> the only thing I'm really quesitoning now is what's going to be the best 
> charging mat to use,
> a 5 or 7.5V?
> 
> 7.5 is what I have for my phone.
> no one seems to have stated that yet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 25 March 2019 6:07 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you 
> upgrade)?, iMore
> 
> AirPods 1 vs. AirPods 2: What's the difference (and should you upgrade)?
> By Lory Gil, 23 Mar 2019
> 
> Apple's first-generation AirPods perfected automatic connection to any Apple 
> device you're signed in with your Apple ID. Switching between devices is 
> automagical.
> $159 at Amazon
> Apple's second-generation AirPods are a slight improvement over the first-gen 
> with better audio and voice quality, longer talk time, and support for 
> voice-activated Siri.
> $159 at Amazon
> The differences between the first and second-generation AirPods is small, and 
> in some ways, not different at all (the price, for example). Because of the 
> minor upgrade, it becomes even more difficult to decide which version to buy. 
> Should you upgrade from Gen 1? Should you get the wireless Charging Case? 
> Let's break it all down.
> 
> AirPods 1 vs AirPods 2: The specs
> AirPods 1,AirPods 2
> Battery life (talk)   2 hours,3 hours
> battery life (music)  5 hours,5 hours
> Chipset   W1, H1
> Bluetooth version 5.0,5.0
> Siri connection   double-tap to activate, Voice-activated or double-tap
> Wireless charging with additional wireless Charging Case purchase with
> wireless Charging Case
> iOS system requirements   iOS 10 or later,iOS 12.2 or later
> watchOS system requirements   watchOS 3 or later, watchOS 5.2 or later
> macOS system requirements macOS High Sierra or later, macOS
> 10.14.4 or later
> Apple TV support  Yes,Yes
> 
> Should you upgrade from AirPods 1?
> The short answer here is no. Keep reading if you want to know about how I 
> feel, though.
> The biggest updates from the first to second generation AirPods are the H1 
> chipset (which has a few benefits), longer talk time, and support for 
> voice-activated Siri. The changes are not that significant. Not enough, at 
> least, for me to recommend you upgrade from your first-generation AirPods.
> Plus, Apple didn't change the look of AirPods at all from the first 
> generation to the second. They have the same speaker placement, which doesn't 
> necessarily work with all ears, and still only come in white. If you're 
> hoping to show off how much cooler you are then everyone else with the latest 
> AirPods, no one's going to be able to tell the difference.
> With that being said, here are a few things for you to consider before making 
> your final decision.
> The H1 chip is a big improvement over the W1 The "W" series of chipsets 
> focuses on Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connecting and is used in various wireless 
> headphones, like Beats, as well as the Apple Watch line.
> The brand new "H" series is Apple's headphones focused chipset. It's designed 
> to provide faster connectivity, higher-quality audio, and lower latency for 
> such things as gaming.
> The H1 chip improves upon the W1 chip in the following ways
> . Up to 50% More talk time
> . 2X faster switching between devices
> . Faster connection to phone calls
> . Stronger connectivity
> . 30% lower latency for gaming
> . Support for voice-activated Siri
> If the bane of your existence is that it can take too long to switch your 
> AirPods from your iPhone to your Mac, or if you accidentally curse at your 
> boss because you're in a rage because your AirPods didn't switch fast enough 
> from listening to music or answering the phone, the upgrade starts to look 
> much more appealing.
> If you've tried playing Fortnight on your iPhone with AirPods and threw them 
> in the trash because the lag time was atrocious, you should think about 
> upgrading from the first-generation to the second-generation AirPods.
> A better phone call experience
> Thanks to the H1 chip, AirPods 2 has longer support for talk time than its 
> predecessor. Apple notes up to 50% more, though lists talk time as three 
> hours (AirPods 1 has two