Re: Braille on the I phone.
I have sent the problems to Accessibility and will wait to see what is said. On 19 Jun 2011, at 08:44, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, This makes typing in contracted braille useless and for sure does not conform with the rules of contracted braille, as I know them. Claus Den 17-06-2011 23:19, Teresa Cochran skrev: Try using a letter sign (dots 5-6) before any letter in the middle of a word. HTH, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
This is true, but is a sort of kludgey workaround. If you type fast, it does pretty well. I think it would be nice to have both reading and writing contractions options toggle on and off. However, I think it's quite amazing that the Apple developers did what they did. I simply wouldn't expect that of mainstream companies like Apple. Teresa On Jun 19, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, This makes typing in contracted braille useless and for sure does not conform with the rules of contracted braille, as I know them. Claus Den 17-06-2011 23:19, Teresa Cochran skrev: Try using a letter sign (dots 5-6) before any letter in the middle of a word. HTH, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
You would expect less for a blind user? I bet a sighted person would expect a variety of font sizes and font font types. They would expect highlighting, bold text, etc. So, why should a blind user be expected to take less on a system that is advertised to have Braille support. It isn't advertised to have menimal Braille support or Braille support as defined necessary by sighted users who do not use Braille. - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. This is true, but is a sort of kludgey workaround. If you type fast, it does pretty well. I think it would be nice to have both reading and writing contractions options toggle on and off. However, I think it's quite amazing that the Apple developers did what they did. I simply wouldn't expect that of mainstream companies like Apple. Teresa On Jun 19, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, This makes typing in contracted braille useless and for sure does not conform with the rules of contracted braille, as I know them. Claus Den 17-06-2011 23:19, Teresa Cochran skrev: Try using a letter sign (dots 5-6) before any letter in the middle of a word. HTH, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Hello, I hope that this isn't changing the subject too much. But, I have an iPod touch that I am trying to pare with a braillnote apex. Is there a way that I can slow down the touch in order to give me enough time to type in the paring code? Thanks for any thoughts. Terry Sanders - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
I just typing in the pairing code as normal. Can't you do that? If I were you, just press number sign and type the code in as the letters will come out as numbers. On 18 Jun 2011, at 16:47, Terry Sanders wrote: Hello, I hope that this isn't changing the subject too much. But, I have an iPod touch that I am trying to pare with a braillnote apex. Is there a way that I can slow down the touch in order to give me enough time to type in the paring code? Thanks for any thoughts. Terry Sanders - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Ok, I have a question that I can't believe that I don't know the answer to after using VO for almost a year. Is there a way to read a *.brl or *.brf file on the iPhone/? - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
I don't even know if we can do that so that's a good question. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:06, David Tanner wrote: Ok, I have a question that I can't believe that I don't know the answer to after using VO for almost a year. Is there a way to read a *.brl or *.brf file on the iPhone/? - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
I don't know if we can either. I know we could with Mobile Speak Pocket on Windows Mobile, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone mention that there was a way to do that. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. I don't even know if we can do that so that's a good question. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:06, David Tanner wrote: Ok, I have a question that I can't believe that I don't know the answer to after using VO for almost a year. Is there a way to read a *.brl or *.brf file on the iPhone/? - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Wouldn't it be so cool if we could but I'm not sure if people read BRF files these days unless they are using megadot files or an old braille embosser file. Now also wouldn't it be cool if you could read a DXB file which Duxbury uses. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:19, David Tanner wrote: I don't know if we can either. I know we could with Mobile Speak Pocket on Windows Mobile, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone mention that there was a way to do that. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. I don't even know if we can do that so that's a good question. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:06, David Tanner wrote: Ok, I have a question that I can't believe that I don't know the answer to after using VO for almost a year. Is there a way to read a *.brl or *.brf file on the iPhone/? - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Normally there is only a problem with reading any a braille file if you want to edit it and convert it back to another format later. Why not just try and rename the extention to something that your text editor accepts and feel if it works. Claus Den 19-06-2011 00:19, David Tanner skrev: I don't know if we can either. I know we could with Mobile Speak Pocket on Windows Mobile, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone mention that there was a way to do that. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. I don't even know if we can do that so that's a good question. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:06, David Tanner wrote: Ok, I have a question that I can't believe that I don't know the answer to after using VO for almost a year. Is there a way to read a *.brl or *.brf file on the iPhone/? - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Well, I would think it would be nice if there was a Duxbury app for iPhone. The more people talk about the iPhone and iPad replacing traditional computers there certainly could be a good argument for it. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Wouldn't it be so cool if we could but I'm not sure if people read BRF files these days unless they are using megadot files or an old braille embosser file. Now also wouldn't it be cool if you could read a DXB file which Duxbury uses. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:19, David Tanner wrote: I don't know if we can either. I know we could with Mobile Speak Pocket on Windows Mobile, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone mention that there was a way to do that. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. I don't even know if we can do that so that's a good question. On 18 Jun 2011, at 23:06, David Tanner wrote: Ok, I have a question that I can't believe that I don't know the answer to after using VO for almost a year. Is there a way to read a *.brl or *.brf file on the iPhone/? - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille on the I phone. Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Try using a letter sign (dots 5-6) before any letter in the middle of a word. HTH, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Just one more question and I do a letter sign in a middle of a word. How do you do a plus sign before you were going to put a number in? For example +44 7 etc. On 17 Jun 2011, at 22:19, Teresa Cochran wrote: Try using a letter sign (dots 5-6) before any letter in the middle of a word. HTH, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
