RE: Kindle for Mac

[skipper8218]

No, unfortunately.
It is better to use Kindle on the Amazon Fire or on IOS.


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Hello,
Is Kindle for Mac accessible?  

Thanks.
Chris

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Re: Kindle app?

[Patrick Ford]

wow you got that far? I could not even fill in my email etc ….

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:50 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> does the kindle app work with the new catalina operating system?
> I downloaded it and could get in to it but when i clicked on books i only saw 
> the 9 latest items listed.
> anyone know?
> shirley
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Re: Kindle on Mac

[Phil Halton]

I used to use the Kindle plug-in for windows a few years back and it was pretty 
clunky then although it did work to some extent. I don’t bother with Kindle on 
the Mac. It can be OK on the iPhone, but you still can’t read with granularity 
like word by word on the iPhone Kindle app.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 19, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I don't think the Kindle mac app is accessible. if it's just a pdf not from 
> Kindle and I were doing it I'd read it in iBooks.
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I am struggling through with Kindle on Mac. I’m currently trying to 
>> read a PDF book. It took me forever to open the book. The application kept 
>> wanting to open a different book over & over. Anyway, I’m figuring out 
>> searching the text and having speech read, but I cannot get VoiceOver to 
>> read any of the text. Word by word, etc.
>> 
>> Any tips or tricks? Should I have done something to the PDF beforehand?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: Kindle on Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't think the Kindle mac app is accessible. if it's just a pdf not from 
Kindle and I were doing it I'd read it in iBooks.

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, I am struggling through with Kindle on Mac. I’m currently trying to 
> read a PDF book. It took me forever to open the book. The application kept 
> wanting to open a different book over & over. Anyway, I’m figuring out 
> searching the text and having speech read, but I cannot get VoiceOver to read 
> any of the text. Word by word, etc.
> 
> Any tips or tricks? Should I have done something to the PDF beforehand?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Kindle for Mac and iOS

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Well Apple sure made it much more difficult to do what was so simple 
in iTunes. But I finally got all my audiobooks in the Books app. And 
after fighting with the sync process. got it done.


   The only thing I do not lie is the audiobooks now live on the 
internal drive instead of the external drive. Progress. :)


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On 12/12/2019 9:18 AM, Michael Maslo wrote:

Hello,

On the iPhone, kindle Works great. It is fully accessible. I use it on a 
regular basis. On the Mac on the Other hand is not that accessible at all. It 
is difficult to to read a book at all. You are able to get to where the voice 
reads the Book but the screen turns off and the book stops reading. Also there 
is no way whatsoever of reading a book character by character word by word etc. 
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The screen does not go to sleep. Now Mind you it has been a few months since I 
last tried it and I have reported it To Amazon.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Michael maslo


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   Just curious how Kindle stacks up against Apple Books on both Mac and iOS 
accessibility-wise.

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RE: Kindle for Mac and iOS

[Simon A Fogarty]

I've used it may be twice and I didn't like it,

But I've been using apple books since I got my first iphone / iPad and can't go 
passed it.



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Just curious how Kindle stacks up against Apple Books on both Mac and iOS 
accessibility-wise.

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Re: Kindle for Mac and iOS

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thanks for this. I definitely want to be able to go word bu word of 
character.


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Hello,

On the iPhone, kindle Works great. It is fully accessible. I use it on a 
regular basis. On the Mac on the Other hand is not that accessible at all. It 
is difficult to to read a book at all. You are able to get to where the voice 
reads the Book but the screen turns off and the book stops reading. Also there 
is no way whatsoever of reading a book character by character word by word etc. 
Basically the only thing you can do is read The book non stop and That is if 
The screen does not go to sleep. Now Mind you it has been a few months since I 
last tried it and I have reported it To Amazon.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Michael maslo


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   Just curious how Kindle stacks up against Apple Books on both Mac and iOS 
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Re: Kindle for Mac and iOS

[Michael Maslo]

Hello,

On the iPhone, kindle Works great. It is fully accessible. I use it on a 
regular basis. On the Mac on the Other hand is not that accessible at all. It 
is difficult to to read a book at all. You are able to get to where the voice 
reads the Book but the screen turns off and the book stops reading. Also there 
is no way whatsoever of reading a book character by character word by word etc. 
Basically the only thing you can do is read The book non stop and That is if 
The screen does not go to sleep. Now Mind you it has been a few months since I 
last tried it and I have reported it To Amazon.

Hope this helps.

 

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

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Re: Kindle for Mac and iOS

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   This makes it easy for me then since I only have a couple Kindle 
books and one is also on the Apple Books store. Thanks for the feedback.


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On 12/12/2019 8:52 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

On the Mac, on Catalina, Kindle is not accessible as far as reading books, 
whereas Apple Books is. On iOS, both are good, but Apple Books shows more 
formatting, like headings.


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Re: Kindle for Mac and iOS

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

On the Mac, on Catalina, Kindle is not accessible as far as reading books, 
whereas Apple Books is. On iOS, both are good, but Apple Books shows more 
formatting, like headings.

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Re: Kindle

[Julie Rattray]

I played around a bit with the Mac version but it just doesn’t work 

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> On 5/6/2019 5:47 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> ET,
>> Braille works well in Kindle for IOS.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Kindle

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thanks Anne and Donna. I won't waste time with the Mac then as I 
found it troublesome just to get signed in, which didn't happen.


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On 5/6/2019 5:47 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

ET,

Braille works well in Kindle for IOS.
Cheers,
Donna



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   I should have paid attention when this was discussed. :( In brief, which is 
more accessible, iOS or Mac? Either audio or braille as I will try both and see 
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Re: Kindle

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

ET,

Braille works well in Kindle for IOS.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Kindle

[Anne Robertson]

Hello E.T.,
The only choice is iOS as the Mac version isn’t accessible.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: Kindle

[Lorie McCloud]

IOS is way more accessible than Mac os. that's with vo. I don't know about 
braille.

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Re: Kindle for Mac

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

I have been playing and if I use the track pad I can sort of get it to work but 
it is a bit of a faff and not sure if it is worth it unless anyone has any good 
tips or tricks up their sleeves?

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 23:10, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I don't think Kindle for Mac is accessible unless it's been improved lately 
> and I don't know about it.
> 
> Lorie
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>> After looking at the thread about Kindle reading voices decided to give the 
>> kindle app for Mac another try - but am having some trouble getting it to 
>> work - can anyone give me some quick getting started tips - I have installed 
>> it and signed in but I have 39 books in my library and can only see seven 
>> and can’t get any to download - probably something really obvious I am not 
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Re: Kindle for Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't think Kindle for Mac is accessible unless it's been improved lately and 
I don't know about it.

Lorie

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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> 
> After looking at the thread about Kindle reading voices decided to give the 
> kindle app for Mac another try - but am having some trouble getting it to 
> work - can anyone give me some quick getting started tips - I have installed 
> it and signed in but I have 39 books in my library and can only see seven and 
> can’t get any to download - probably something really obvious I am not doing 
> but … help 
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Re: Kindle app question

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Call Amazon and explain the situation.  They'll refund you.  At least, they 
did when I had the issue.


Their number is:

206-922-0865

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Laura Bratton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:54 PM
Subject: Kindle app question


Hi All,
I downloaded a textbook from amazon. I just opened the kindle app to start 
reading. When I double tapped on the return to book, it then said, Voice 
over does not support this content. has anyone received this message before? 
I am assuming there is nothing i can do to get VO to read the book? Is there 
a way that I can get my money back?

Thank you all for your help,
Laura

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Re: Kindle Accessibility on the Mac?

[Mary Otten]

It is not accessible. You cannot read books.

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Re: Kindle Accessibility on the Mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eileen,

I’m afraid Kindle is not accessible on the Mac. It really is very annoying.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Kindle app on mac

[Mary Otten]

The Kindle app for Mac is totally inaccessible. Always has been.

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 Is it just me or is it totally inaccessible? I just need a way to get the 
 kindle books onto my Mac.
 
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Re: kindle

[Teresa Cochran]

It doesn’t work on the Mac, but it does on the IThings.

HtH,
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Re: kindle

[Teresa Cochran]

Does it work on the Mac now? Hopefully my previous info is outdated? :) I’ve 
tried reading with Cloud Reader and VO seems to behave strangely. Previously, 
on the Mac, VO hasn’t recognized the text in the Kindle app itself. Admittedly, 
I haven’t tried it in the last  few months.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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 It doesn’t work on the Mac, but it does on the IThings.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
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Re: kindle

[Jessica D]

How do you get kindle for mac? I thought it did not exist for mac.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: kindle

[May and Noah]

There is a mac version, but it so doesn’t work with voice over.

So I found out.

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 How do you get kindle for mac? I thought it did not exist for mac.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: kindle

[May and Noah]

Whoops, meant to say this as well. Darn hitting send too soon. 

kindle is in the mac app store.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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 How do you get kindle for mac? I thought it did not exist for mac.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Does anyone know of kindle works well with voice over?
 
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Re: kindle for mac?

[Alex Hall]

Yes, there is an app for the Mac. Now, go find your shocked face, because 
you're gonna need it... Yep, the app is fully inaccessible. It is made up 
of unknown elements across the board, though some preferences can be 
accessed, and of course the dropdown menus work.
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 Is there a kindle app for the mad, and is it accessible?
 
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Re: kindle for mac?

[Mary Otten]

Yes, there is a Kindle app for the Mac, and no, it is not accessible.

Mary

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Re: kindle on the mac?

[Jane]

Nope; Amazon has said they are workingon it.

Jane





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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Becky,

I don't know anything about eBook Buffet. Does it work with Kindle somehow? I 
thought the Kindle app only worked with books you buy through the Amazon Kindle 
Store or with books you email to yourself through your whisper sync Kindle 
email address.

Did you check under both the cloud and device tabs at the bottom of the screen? 
At the top of the screen in the middle you should also have selected all items. 
You can choose between books, newsstand or docs. Just choose all items to make 
sure you're not missing anything.

Cheers,
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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Danny Noonan]

Make sure the app is set on device. Then it's the standard iOS deletion method 
like in mail and messages. Swipe down when on an item and it should say delete. 
Double tap and the item should be gone. If 1 finger swipe down doesn't  say 
delete use the roter until it is on actions and then swiping down should say 
delete. 

Hope this helps. 



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 Hi,
 I tried deleting from app switcher and restarting, with no luck. I tried 
 re-ordering the samples from Safari. This worked for one book, but not 
 others. So I'm going to try and delete some samples and then request them 
 again. NOt sure how to do this though.
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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Nicholas Parsons]

That's what I thought, but I don't get the actions menu in the router for these 
samples which are not downloading or opening. I do get the actions menu for 
other books, just not the ones which are having problems.

Anyway, the problem is now largely resolved. I've re-added the samples and 
they've all downloaded properly and can be opened. Most of them when they 
re-downloaded replaced the broken copies. Some, however, have re-downloaded but 
left the broken copies still in my library, and these I can't seem to delete. 
I'd like to get rid of them just to be tidy, but they're not stopping me 
reading the books I want to read.

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RE: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Becky Sabo]

Hi all I am having trouble with the kindle app too.  I tried downloading a
book from eBook buffet and it said it down loaded it than when it was done I
went to the kindle app and tried finding the book I could not fine it and it
said there was no book.  What should I be doing or am I doing something
wrong?
Thanks again
Becky Sabo 

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Make sure the app is set on device. Then it's the standard iOS deletion
method like in mail and messages. Swipe down when on an item and it should
say delete. Double tap and the item should be gone. If 1 finger swipe down
doesn't  say delete use the roter until it is on actions and then swiping
down should say delete. 

Hope this helps. 



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

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 I tried deleting from app switcher and restarting, with no luck. I tried
re-ordering the samples from Safari. This worked for one book, but not
others. So I'm going to try and delete some samples and then request them
again. NOt sure how to do this though.
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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Danny Noonan]

Usual first steps  delete the app from memory in app switcher, restart your 
phone and reopen the app. If no luck with current samples try deleting a 
couple, re send them to your iDevice and if they open and original samples 
don't, rince and replete with the other samples. If none of this works 
uninstall the app and reinstall and try again. 

Sorry for no great solution. Hopefully someone has a proper solution. 



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've got a whole lot of Kindle book samples. I sent them from the 
 Amazon/Kindle website on Safari on my Mac to my iPhone. I can see all the 
 books on the home screen on the device tab. However, when I tap on a book, 
 nothing happens. The book doesn't open and doesn't start downloading. Well, 
 actually, one of the books downloaded and opened fine. But the others are not 
 doing anything.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I'm using the first accessible version of the Kindle app on my iPhone 4S 
 running iOS 6.1.3.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Kindle Books Not Opening or Downloading

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi,
I tried deleting from app switcher and restarting, with no luck. I tried 
re-ordering the samples from Safari. This worked for one book, but not others. 
So I'm going to try and delete some samples and then request them again. NOt 
sure how to do this though.
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Steve Holmes]

No, I am indeed double tapping the screen area to open the menu. VO
does say menu but any flicks at that point just ding. I can slide my
finger around and find the choices but I can never flick to them in
this situation. Some claim they can get this to work when the
brightness is turned all the way up but that doesn't even work for me.
So I'm not sure what the difference here is. Once I double tap Home
in the upper left corner, then the top (main) menu is then opened and
I can flick around in that menu just fine; it is the book reading menu
that I have to explore by touch to review.

Again, this is on an iPad Mini if that makes a difference.

On 5/8/13, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Steve,

 Maybe I'm not reading your comments correctly, but in order to flick between
 menu items from the Kindle app when I have continuous reading on for a book,
 I have to first double tap with one finger in the center of the page, then
 hear VoiceOver say Menu On.  At that point I can flick to the menu items.
 This is a fairly standard action in many book apps where, in order to hide
 or show the page controls, you double tap in the center of the screen.
 You're correct that in general the landscape view of the iPad works better
 for many purposes, even when both portrait and landscape modes are
 selected.

 HTH.  Cheers,

 Esther

 On 8 May 2013, at 07:12, Steve Holmes wrote:

 Hi after reading some 80 messages in this thread, I thought I would
 put up some observations I have found so far with the Kindle app and
 my iPad Mini. First off, I could get continuous read to work only in
 landscape mode. When in portrait, it would read a page or two and then
 stop every time. Flicking with 3 finger left or right would always
 change pages as desired but the continuous read would always stop
 after a page or so like I said before.

 As for flicking between menu items, I could never get that to work so
 far on my iPad no matter in landscape or portrait; I'm referring to
 when accessed from inside a book. I always have to use explore by
 touch to find the reader menu items. Once I pick the Home menu item,
 then I gain access to the top menu and then I can flick around like
 normal. Changing brightness seemed to have no effect for me.

 So try landscape mode if using an iPad and see if continuous reading
 isn't more reliable; it is for me.

 On 5/5/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Sorry, I forgot to write the main part of my message. lol.  In my
 opinion,
 screen curtain is not as good at conserving battery life as actually
 reducing screen brightness.  In my rudimentary testing, turning the
 screen
 curtain on just basically turns the pixels opaque, not dim the
 backlight.
 Its like pulling a black shade down on a window streaming in sunlight.
 Just
 because the shade is down, doesn't mean the sun isn't still up. :)

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

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 wrote:

 Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering
 brightness? Or do you still need the screen to look at?

 P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that
 connection. The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to
 solve
 a problem like that would be screen brightness. How bazaar.

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 haha,

 No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in
 settings.  This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be
 controlled from the app switcher though.

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Steve Holmes]

Hi after reading some 80 messages in this thread, I thought I would
put up some observations I have found so far with the Kindle app and
my iPad Mini. First off, I could get continuous read to work only in
landscape mode. When in portrait, it would read a page or two and then
stop every time. Flicking with 3 finger left or right would always
change pages as desired but the continuous read would always stop
after a page or so like I said before.

As for flicking between menu items, I could never get that to work so
far on my iPad no matter in landscape or portrait; I'm referring to
when accessed from inside a book. I always have to use explore by
touch to find the reader menu items. Once I pick the Home menu item,
then I gain access to the top menu and then I can flick around like
normal. Changing brightness seemed to have no effect for me.

So try landscape mode if using an iPad and see if continuous reading
isn't more reliable; it is for me.

On 5/5/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Sorry, I forgot to write the main part of my message. lol.  In my opinion,
 screen curtain is not as good at conserving battery life as actually
 reducing screen brightness.  In my rudimentary testing, turning the screen
 curtain on just basically turns the pixels opaque, not dim the backlight.
 Its like pulling a black shade down on a window streaming in sunlight.  Just
 because the shade is down, doesn't mean the sun isn't still up. :)

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On May 5, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering
 brightness? Or do you still need the screen to look at?

 P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that
 connection. The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve
 a problem like that would be screen brightness. How bazaar.

 On 06/05/2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 haha,

 No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in
 settings.  This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be
 controlled from the app switcher though.

 Ricardo Walker

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Esther]

Hi Steve,

Maybe I'm not reading your comments correctly, but in order to flick between 
menu items from the Kindle app when I have continuous reading on for a book, I 
have to first double tap with one finger in the center of the page, then hear 
VoiceOver say Menu On.  At that point I can flick to the menu items.  This is 
a fairly standard action in many book apps where, in order to hide or show the 
page controls, you double tap in the center of the screen.  You're correct that 
in general the landscape view of the iPad works better for many purposes, even 
when both portrait and landscape modes are selected.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
On 8 May 2013, at 07:12, Steve Holmes wrote:

 Hi after reading some 80 messages in this thread, I thought I would
 put up some observations I have found so far with the Kindle app and
 my iPad Mini. First off, I could get continuous read to work only in
 landscape mode. When in portrait, it would read a page or two and then
 stop every time. Flicking with 3 finger left or right would always
 change pages as desired but the continuous read would always stop
 after a page or so like I said before.
 
 As for flicking between menu items, I could never get that to work so
 far on my iPad no matter in landscape or portrait; I'm referring to
 when accessed from inside a book. I always have to use explore by
 touch to find the reader menu items. Once I pick the Home menu item,
 then I gain access to the top menu and then I can flick around like
 normal. Changing brightness seemed to have no effect for me.
 
 So try landscape mode if using an iPad and see if continuous reading
 isn't more reliable; it is for me.
 
 On 5/5/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Sorry, I forgot to write the main part of my message. lol.  In my opinion,
 screen curtain is not as good at conserving battery life as actually
 reducing screen brightness.  In my rudimentary testing, turning the screen
 curtain on just basically turns the pixels opaque, not dim the backlight.
 Its like pulling a black shade down on a window streaming in sunlight.  Just
 because the shade is down, doesn't mean the sun isn't still up. :)
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 5, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering
 brightness? Or do you still need the screen to look at?
 
 P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that
 connection. The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve
 a problem like that would be screen brightness. How bazaar.
 
 On 06/05/2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 haha,
 
 No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in
 settings.  This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be
 controlled from the app switcher though.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

I have been able to duplicate the issue of not being able to flick left or 
right to different elements on the menu screen.  I am pretty certain this is 
caused when you go into  view options in the menu, and lower brightness.  Even 
lowering brightness to 90% in the app will cause this.  I've been able to 
duplicate this on my iPad mini and iPhone 5.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 4, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Sorry.  I'm not having this problem on my iPhone 5.  Form the menu, I am able 
 to left/right flick through the buttons.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the 
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. 
 I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find 
 them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works 
 normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the 
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or 
 elements visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near 
 certain of this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know 
 we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I 
 used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the 
 chime let me know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so 
 I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle 
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a 
 whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't 
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. 
 Not true for the other way around, and that continues to be so 
 through today. So I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi Jamie,

I have had a similar experience to yours. Mine is with the New York Times. What 
appears in the New York Times app which is a subscription is often quite 
different from what is in the NFB Newsline version. I have no idea why this is 
the case.

While I have great appreciation for what NFB Newsline offers, I have found that 
I prefer the subscription directly from the New York Times. Of course, you have 
to pay for the subscription and NFB Newsline is free.

Robert Carter


On May 4, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I signed up for a subscription of MacWorld on the Kindle without realizing
 that it is available through NFB Newsline. The version of the magazine on
 the Kindle app appears to be quite a bit different from the Newsline
 version. I've looked at the current and previous version of the magazine in
 Newsline to make sure I wasn't viewing two different issues. The Kindle app
 offers a 30-day trial of their magazines, with the PC World subscription
 costing $1.99 per month. If anyone is familiar with the version of the
 magazine on Newsline and wouldn't mind taking a look at the Kindle version,
 I would be very interested in your observations.
 
 Thanks.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book.
 I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find
 them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works
 normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements
 visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of
 this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me 
 know we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along 
 books I used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print 
 but the chime let me know when to turn the page lol Maria Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :) Cheers, Donna 
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country,
 so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole
 chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not
 true for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So
 I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
 Mary
 
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RE: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jamie Pauls]

Fascinating! Thanks for confirming the existence of the problem, if in fact
that's what we choose to call it. Like you, I plan to keep my paid
subscription even though I appreciate what Newsline has to offer.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

Hi Jamie,

I have had a similar experience to yours. Mine is with the New York Times.
What appears in the New York Times app which is a subscription is often
quite different from what is in the NFB Newsline version. I have no idea why
this is the case.

While I have great appreciation for what NFB Newsline offers, I have found
that I prefer the subscription directly from the New York Times. Of course,
you have to pay for the subscription and NFB Newsline is free.

Robert Carter


On May 4, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I signed up for a subscription of MacWorld on the Kindle without 
 realizing that it is available through NFB Newsline. The version of 
 the magazine on the Kindle app appears to be quite a bit different 
 from the Newsline version. I've looked at the current and previous 
 version of the magazine in Newsline to make sure I wasn't viewing two 
 different issues. The Kindle app offers a 30-day trial of their 
 magazines, with the PC World subscription costing $1.99 per month. If 
 anyone is familiar with the version of the magazine on Newsline and 
 wouldn't mind taking a look at the Kindle version, I would be very
interested in your observations.
 
 Thanks.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette 
 Wesseling
 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in 
 the reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a
book.
 I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to 
 find them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu 
 works normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume 
 the
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or 
 elements visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near 
 certain of this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages 
 are any
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size 
 to
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me 
 know we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along 
 books I used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the 
 print but the chime let me know when to turn the page lol Maria 
 Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :) Cheers, Donna 
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking 
 country,
 so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish 
 Kindle didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo 
 reads a whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and
pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. 
 Not true for the other way around, and that continues to be so through 
 today. So I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jane]

The reason the papers are so different is probably because NFB only gets the 
free content. We don't pay, so we don't get access to *everything*.

Jane




On May 5, 2013, at 8:26 AM, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jamie,
 
 I have had a similar experience to yours. Mine is with the New York Times. 
 What appears in the New York Times app which is a subscription is often quite 
 different from what is in the NFB Newsline version. I have no idea why this 
 is the case.
 
 While I have great appreciation for what NFB Newsline offers, I have found 
 that I prefer the subscription directly from the New York Times. Of course, 
 you have to pay for the subscription and NFB Newsline is free.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I signed up for a subscription of MacWorld on the Kindle without realizing
 that it is available through NFB Newsline. The version of the magazine on
 the Kindle app appears to be quite a bit different from the Newsline
 version. I've looked at the current and previous version of the magazine in
 Newsline to make sure I wasn't viewing two different issues. The Kindle app
 offers a 30-day trial of their magazines, with the PC World subscription
 costing $1.99 per month. If anyone is familiar with the version of the
 magazine on Newsline and wouldn't mind taking a look at the Kindle version,
 I would be very interested in your observations.
 
 Thanks.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book.
 I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find
 them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works
 normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements
 visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of
 this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me 
 know we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along 
 books I used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print 
 but the chime let me know when to turn the page lol Maria Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :) Cheers, Donna 
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country,
 so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole
 chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not
 true for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So
 I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mary Otten]

Ricardo, I think you have indeed found the problem. Can't lower brightness. I 
had done that on my iPad right before having the problem of not being able to 
flick to items on the menu. And I have not done it on the 4S, where the same 
book's menu does not exhibit this problem. So, now I wonder where to report 
this bug.

Maybe the app store has a support link for the Kindle app.

Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Lisette]

Yes this fixed it. That will teach me not to turn my brightness down. Thanks 
very much for solving this Ricardo. 
Lisette 

Sent from my iPhone

On 5/05/2013, at 11:03 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have been able to duplicate the issue of not being able to flick left or 
 right to different elements on the menu screen.  I am pretty certain this is 
 caused when you go into  view options in the menu, and lower brightness.  
 Even lowering brightness to 90% in the app will cause this.  I've been able 
 to duplicate this on my iPad mini and iPhone 5.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Sorry.  I'm not having this problem on my iPhone 5.  Form the menu, I am 
 able to left/right flick through the buttons.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the 
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. 
 I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find 
 them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works 
 normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the 
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or 
 elements visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near 
 certain of this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know 
 we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I 
 used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the 
 chime let me know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
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 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, 
 so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish 
 Kindle didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo 
 reads a whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and 
 pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't 
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. 
 Not true for the other way around, and that continues to be so 
 through today. So I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

haha,

No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in settings.  
This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be controlled from the app 
switcher though.

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On May 5, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Lisette lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes this fixed it. That will teach me not to turn my brightness down. Thanks 
 very much for solving this Ricardo. 
 Lisette 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 11:03 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been able to duplicate the issue of not being able to flick left or 
 right to different elements on the menu screen.  I am pretty certain this is 
 caused when you go into  view options in the menu, and lower brightness.  
 Even lowering brightness to 90% in the app will cause this.  I've been able 
 to duplicate this on my iPad mini and iPhone 5.
 
 hth
 
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 On May 4, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Sorry.  I'm not having this problem on my iPhone 5.  Form the menu, I am 
 able to left/right flick through the buttons.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the 
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a 
 book. I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to 
 find them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works 
 normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the 
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or 
 elements visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near 
 certain of this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are 
 any bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know 
 we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I 
 used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the 
 chime let me know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, 
 so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish 
 Kindle didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo 
 reads a whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and 
 pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't 
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on 
 Kindle. Not true for the other way around, and that continues to be 
 so through today. So I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Mary,

It looks like you need to go to the Amazon/kindle site and jump down the rabbit 
hole.  lol.  I'm not sure what I clicked on but, I finally found a contact us 
link.  I wish I had payed more attention but, I honestly had no clue what I was 
doing or, what I was really looking for.

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On May 5, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ricardo, I think you have indeed found the problem. Can't lower brightness. I 
 had done that on my iPad right before having the problem of not being able to 
 flick to items on the menu. And I have not done it on the 4S, where the same 
 book's menu does not exhibit this problem. So, now I wonder where to report 
 this bug.
 
 Maybe the app store has a support link for the Kindle app.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering brightness? 
Or do you still need the screen to look at?

P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that connection. 
The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve a problem like 
that would be screen brightness. How bazaar. 

On 06/05/2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

haha,

No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in settings.  
This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be controlled from the app 
switcher though.

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Haha,  I just stumbled upon it to be honest.  When I get a new app, especially 
one that has just been made accessible with Voiceover, I like to go through 
every single setting and testing the effect they have on accessibility and 
usability if any at all.

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On May 5, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering brightness? 
 Or do you still need the screen to look at?
 
 P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that 
 connection. The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve a 
 problem like that would be screen brightness. How bazaar. 
 
 On 06/05/2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 haha,
 
 No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in settings. 
  This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be controlled from the 
 app switcher though.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Wow. That's dedicated. Must be time consuming. Do you report your findings on 
AppleVis? Sorry, I'll withdraw that last comment as it's off topic.

On 06/05/2013, at 11:51 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

Haha,  I just stumbled upon it to be honest.  When I get a new app, especially 
one that has just been made accessible with Voiceover, I like to go through 
every single setting and testing the effect they have on accessibility and 
usability if any at all.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On May 5, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering brightness? 
 Or do you still need the screen to look at?
 
 P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that 
 connection. The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve a 
 problem like that would be screen brightness. How bazaar. 
 
 On 06/05/2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 haha,
 
 No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in settings. 
  This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be controlled from the 
 app switcher though.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

Sorry, I forgot to write the main part of my message. lol.  In my opinion, 
screen curtain is not as good at conserving battery life as actually reducing 
screen brightness.  In my rudimentary testing, turning the screen curtain on 
just basically turns the pixels opaque, not dim the backlight.  Its like 
pulling a black shade down on a window streaming in sunlight.  Just because the 
shade is down, doesn't mean the sun isn't still up. :)

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On May 5, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering brightness? 
 Or do you still need the screen to look at?
 
 P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that 
 connection. The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve a 
 problem like that would be screen brightness. How bazaar. 
 
 On 06/05/2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 haha,
 
 No problem.  I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in settings. 
  This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be controlled from the 
 app switcher though.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Maria Joe Chapman]

I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know we're on 
a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used to listen to 
when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let me know when to 
turn the page lol  
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On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still conceptualize 
 books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't 
 make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter 
 at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever 
 finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the 
 other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think 
 iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Danny Noonan]

I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to maximise 
the amount of text on each page though. 

Danny

Sent from my iPhone

On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know we're 
 on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used to listen 
 to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let me know when 
 to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
 Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still conceptualize 
 books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't 
 make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter 
 at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for 
 the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I 
 think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jane]

One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
bigger than the iBooks pages.

Jane




On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:

 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know we're 
 on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used to 
 listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let me 
 know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
 Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't 
 make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter 
 at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for 
 the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I 
 think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Donna Goodin]

I do that as well, Danny.  Makes reading really nice, especially on an iPad.
Cheers,
Donna
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 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know we're 
 on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used to 
 listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let me 
 know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
 Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't 
 make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter 
 at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for 
 the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I 
 think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the kindle 
pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements visible 
on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of this.  Its just 
a guess.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know we're 
 on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used to 
 listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let me 
 know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
 Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so 
 I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle 
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole 
 chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for 
 the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I 
 think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi all,
Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the reader 
menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. I can 
touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find them rather 
than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works normally, so I'm 
wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.

Lisette

On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the kindle 
 pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements visible 
 on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of this.  Its 
 just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know 
 we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used 
 to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let 
 me know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. 
 - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so 
 I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle 
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a 
 whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true 
 for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So 
 I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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RE: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jamie Pauls]

I signed up for a subscription of MacWorld on the Kindle without realizing
that it is available through NFB Newsline. The version of the magazine on
the Kindle app appears to be quite a bit different from the Newsline
version. I've looked at the current and previous version of the magazine in
Newsline to make sure I wasn't viewing two different issues. The Kindle app
offers a 30-day trial of their magazines, with the PC World subscription
costing $1.99 per month. If anyone is familiar with the version of the
magazine on Newsline and wouldn't mind taking a look at the Kindle version,
I would be very interested in your observations.

Thanks.
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

Hi all,
Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the
reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book.
I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find
them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works
normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.

Lisette

On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the
kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements
visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of
this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any
bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to
maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me 
 know we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along 
 books I used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print 
 but the chime let me know when to turn the page lol Maria Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :) Cheers, Donna 
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country,
so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle
didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole
chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't
remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not
true for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So
I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[cait furness]

You can also get mac world through zinio for a lot less.  I don't know if it's 
different then any other version, though.  with all that it's packed with, 
though, I'd be surprised.
Cait

On 2013-05-04, at 5:55 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I signed up for a subscription of MacWorld on the Kindle without realizing
 that it is available through NFB Newsline. The version of the magazine on
 the Kindle app appears to be quite a bit different from the Newsline
 version. I've looked at the current and previous version of the magazine in
 Newsline to make sure I wasn't viewing two different issues. The Kindle app
 offers a 30-day trial of their magazines, with the PC World subscription
 costing $1.99 per month. If anyone is familiar with the version of the
 magazine on Newsline and wouldn't mind taking a look at the Kindle version,
 I would be very interested in your observations.
 
 Thanks.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book.
 I can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find
 them rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works
 normally, so I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements
 visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of
 this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me 
 know we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along 
 books I used to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print 
 but the chime let me know when to turn the page lol Maria Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the 
 strong. - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :) Cheers, Donna 
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country,
 so I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole
 chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't
 remember ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not
 true for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So
 I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mary Otten]

Hi Lisette,
I wonder if this not being able to flick thing is something random. I have 
encountered this problem with a book on my iPad. That same book, on my 4S, does 
not exhibit the problem. Also, on the iPad, when I do a continuous read in that 
book and the page changes, instead of continuing to read, my iPad says go to 
and quits reading, and I have to two finger flick down to start again. But 
another book on the iPad doesn't do that. It seems quite strange, rather like 
how some books don't have a table of contents, but others do. 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi Mary,I've tried it with two titles and so far they both exhibit this 
problem. But I can still totally use the app so it's more of a minor annoyance 
than anything else. I would never have believed the Kindle app would ever be 
accessible. Where am I going to find the time to read all I now have access to?

Lisette

On 5/05/2013, at 11:52 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lisette,
 I wonder if this not being able to flick thing is something random. I have 
 encountered this problem with a book on my iPad. That same book, on my 4S, 
 does not exhibit the problem. Also, on the iPad, when I do a continuous read 
 in that book and the page changes, instead of continuing to read, my iPad 
 says go to and quits reading, and I have to two finger flick down to start 
 again. But another book on the iPad doesn't do that. It seems quite strange, 
 rather like how some books don't have a table of contents, but others do. 
 Mary Otten
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mary Otten]

Well, since I don't have an iPhone 5, I can't say about the flicking issue. 
Hopefully somebody with a 5 will come along and put in their 2 cent's. I wonder 
if anybody else with an iPad has encountered the issue where continuous read 
does not work
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Danny Noonan]

Or on a 4s or a 4   

Danny


Sent from my iPhone

On 05/05/2013, at 7:50 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the 
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. I 
 can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find them 
 rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works normally, so 
 I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the 
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements 
 visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of 
 this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
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 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know 
 we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used 
 to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let 
 me know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. 
 - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so 
 I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle 
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a 
 whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true 
 for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. 
 So I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Sorry.  I'm not having this problem on my iPhone 5.  Form the menu, I am able 
to left/right flick through the buttons.

hth

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On May 4, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi all,
 Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the 
 reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. I 
 can touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find them 
 rather than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu works normally, so 
 I'm wondering if it's an iPhone 5 issue?
 Otherwise, I'm loving the  accessibility on the Kindle app.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/05/2013, at 8:40 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why?  I can't see why that would matter much.  But, I would assume the 
 kindle pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements 
 visible on the screen unlike iBooks.  But, I'm no where near certain of 
 this.  Its just a guess.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any 
 bigger than the iBooks pages.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to 
 maximise the amount of text on each page though. 
 
 Danny
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't mind the page turning sound either.  It kind of let's me know 
 we're on a new page.  Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used 
 to listen to when i was a kid.  Couldn't see the print but the chime let 
 me know when to turn the page lol  
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. 
 - Mahatma Gandhi
 
 On 03/05/2013, at 9:09 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still 
 conceptualize books, at least in part, by pages. :)
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so 
 I'm delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle 
 didn't make that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a 
 whole chapter at a time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember 
 ever finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true 
 for the other way around, and that continues to be so through today. 
 So I think iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello Mary,

on my iPad mini,  sometimes reading will just stop at the end of a page for no 
reason I can figure.  on average, I would say this might happen every 30 pages 
or so?  The menu doesn't pop up though, I'm just sitting there on the page.  
When this occurs, I do a 3 finger swipe from right to left to turn the page 
then do a 2 finger swipe up to start continuous reading again.

Ricardo Walker
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 Well, since I don't have an iPhone 5, I can't say about the flicking issue. 
 Hopefully somebody with a 5 will come along and put in their 2 cent's. I 
 wonder if anybody else with an iPad has encountered the issue where 
 continuous read does not work
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Esther]

Hi Lisette and Mary,

On the iPad, it may be the issue that the first generation model Mary
is using just doesn't have as much active memory to use for continuous
reading.  I don't think that's an issue with the later model iPads.  I
agree with Anne's assessment that some eBook versions simply don't
provide navigation in the table of contents, but just lists.

A suggestion for Lisette: to navigate the table of contents with
flicks, set your rotor to words or lines and then flick up and down.
I was finding that for some books I could only easily navigate to the
parts and not to the numbered chapters within the major parts untile I
set my rotor to words, then I could navigate to individual chapters in
the Table of Contents and double tap to go there in the book. This way
you don't have to first touch the section with the chapter number on
the screen and double tap.

Cheers,

Esther

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 Well, since I don't have an iPhone 5, I can't say about the flicking issue. 
 Hopefully somebody with a 5 will come along and put in their 2 cent's. I 
 wonder if anybody else with an iPad has encountered the issue where 
 continuous read does not work
 Mary Otten
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Maria Joe Chapman]

the same thing happens to me, but only about once a book.  I don't get the menu 
popping up either.


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On 05/05/2013, at 1:09 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Mary,
 
 on my iPad mini,  sometimes reading will just stop at the end of a page for 
 no reason I can figure.  on average, I would say this might happen every 30 
 pages or so?  The menu doesn't pop up though, I'm just sitting there on the 
 page.  When this occurs, I do a 3 finger swipe from right to left to turn the 
 page then do a 2 finger swipe up to start continuous reading again.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 4, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, since I don't have an iPhone 5, I can't say about the flicking issue. 
 Hopefully somebody with a 5 will come along and put in their 2 cent's. I 
 wonder if anybody else with an iPad has encountered the issue where 
 continuous read does not work
 Mary Otten
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Anne Robertson]

iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't make 
that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter at a time 
without those irritating noises and pauses.

Cheers,

Anne


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 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever 
 finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the other 
 way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think iBooks is 
 definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

if you don't like the page turning sound, why not flip the mute switch on your 
phone?

Ricardo Walker
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On May 3, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't make 
 that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter at a 
 time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 06:13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever 
 finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the 
 other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think 
 iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mike Busboom]

Hello Anne,

Though this may not be the best solution, couldn't you just hit the mute switch 
on your iPhone to get rid of the page-turning sound?  I do this with Blio and 
iBooks, and it works quite well.

Best,

Mike



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 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't make 
 that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter at a 
 time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever 
 finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the 
 other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think 
 iBooks is definitely not catching up.
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mike,

Oh, silly me! I hadn't thought of that.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hello Anne,
 
 Though this may not be the best solution, couldn't you just hit the mute 
 switch on your iPhone to get rid of the page-turning sound?  I do this with 
 Blio and iBooks, and it works quite well.
 
 Best,
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Anne,

that's funny, I love that page turning sound.  I guess I still conceptualize 
books, at least in part, by pages. :)
Cheers,
Donna
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 iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm 
 delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't make 
 that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter at a 
 time without those irritating noises and pauses.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever 
 finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the 
 other way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think 
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Re: Kindle.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Kindle audiobooks are just audible audiobooks. But ordinary Kindle books can 
now be read by VoiceOver, so they can be considered audiobooks in that sense. 
Of course, I don't think any of us would think of that as being audiobooks. So, 
in short, they're really just e-books you can read with a screen reader. You 
can get audible audiobooks for a Kindle device, but I'm not sure they work on 
the Kindle iOS app. You can use the Audible app or your built-in Music app for 
that.

Cheers,
Nic
 
On 02/05/2013, at 6:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

Hello.

I just downloded the Kindle App for the I phone and it reminds me of the 
audible app. So I'm supposed to buy books from Amazon? I've never used kindle 
books before. Can you have kindle audio books?

Kawal.

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, Amazon 
 should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  direct 
 you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. You 
 have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once you 
 make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't find 
 an
 option to do that. 
 
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 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
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 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this 
 was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out 
 yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
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 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Devin Prater]

This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about the 
nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is awesome! 

Sent from my iPod

On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't find 
 an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this 
 was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out 
 yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
books that blind people might not have had access to now do.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't find 
 an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this 
 was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out 
 yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Chris Blouch]

So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in 
their store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the 
two should be pretty similar.


http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle

CB

On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
books that blind people might not have had access to now do.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:


Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


Best then to use:

www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, Amazon 
should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  direct you.  
Yes?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:


Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. You 
have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your browser.

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:


Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:


I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:


No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once you make 
a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.

On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:


Wow  guys, this is cool.
Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't find an
option to do that.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine

On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Haha. Hi,

I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed with

the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestures
you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com

wrote:

It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was

a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet
-- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
Nook app?

Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi list,

In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with

Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.

http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
rutm_source=twitter

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Christine Grassman]

I have on more than one occasion wanted to buy a book, and couldn't find it on 
iBooks. Each time this occurred, it was available for Kindle. When given a 
choice, even if I have to spend a few bucks more, I will still buy from iBooks. 
 I feel strongly about supporting a company who has made accessibility a 
priority longer, and more consistently, than Amazon ever has, or apparently 
ever will. Retrieving a password is still undoable without assistance, and on 
every occasion when I have needed assistance with my Amazon account, their 
email help was horrific; I always had to call and wait to speak with someone.
Haven't used Amazon in years (because of the Kindle issue) . . . I certainly 
hope that has changed, though I have no intention of holding my breath. 
Christine

On May 2, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in their 
 store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the two should 
 be pretty similar.
 
 http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
 the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
 books that blind people might not have had access to now do.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle quick guide for accessibility

[David Griffith]

The link was for  the book in the US Amazon store. If you llwant to download it 
 and you have a UK Amazon account you have to go to the Kindle store in the 
Amazon.co.uk store. I got it by searching for Kindle guide gesture 
accessibility iOS.
You then get the option to digitally buy the book for £0.00. I changed the 
combo box to my iPod Kindle App as the download destination and the next time I 
opened the Kindle App on my iPod it was there ready for me to open and read.

David Griffith 
On 2 May 2013, at 15:50, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!
 I just noticed the link that somebody passed for a book for using Kindle with 
 wOS and VO. I click the link, but I can not download the book. I see the 
 description, the product details, but I can't find an add to cart or 
 purchase link. Can somebody give me a hand please? Thanks!
 
 Daniela Rubio T
  Distinguished Educator
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Tammy]

they are, I’m reading one now, and loving the accessibility although I wouldn’t 
mind a better voice.  


Tammy
From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 8:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about the 
nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is awesome! 

Sent from my iPod

On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:


  Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.

  On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


Best then to use: 

www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
direct you.  Yes?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your browser.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:


Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it 
is accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
  On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
wrote:


No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but 
once you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.

On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com 
wrote:


  Wow  guys, this is cool.
  Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I 
couldn't find an
  option to do that. 

  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
Grassman
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

  And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
  Christine

  On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker 
rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Haha. Hi,

I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be 
disappointed with

  the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
  continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just 
fine.
  Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the 
voiceover gestures
  you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, 
etc.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
cgrassman1...@gmail.com

  wrote:



  It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would 
think this was

  a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried 
it out yet
  -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks 
and the
  Nook app?


  Christine
  On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker 
rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi list,

In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now 
accessible with

  Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.


http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa

vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
rutm_source=twitter

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Teresa Cochran]

I just figure that having as many book options as possible is a good thing. I 
always have several places to look for a particular book. One site may have a 
book while the other doesn't, and vice versa.

Teresa
On May 2, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in their 
 store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the two should 
 be pretty similar.
 
 http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
 the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
 books that blind people might not have had access to now do.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mary Otten]

I have dozens of Kindle books which I bought only because I could not find them 
in other accessible form, such as iBooks. I think the article that seemed to 
indicate the size of the iBooks and Kindle collections are similar is mistaken. 
I'm just glad to not have to strip drm any more in order to access Kindle stuff 
in future.

Mary

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Christine Grassman]

That's exactly the point. At this time, there is no reason, no argument, no 
excuse, why blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled people 
should not have the same level of choice.
Christine

On May 2, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just figure that having as many book options as possible is a good thing. I 
 always have several places to look for a particular book. One site may have a 
 book while the other doesn't, and vice versa.
 
 Teresa
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in their 
 store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the two 
 should be pretty similar.
 
 http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just 
 has the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands 
 of books that blind people might not have had access to now do.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  
 I've never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be 
 disappointed with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just 
 fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Christine Grassman]

Indeed. I wish I could use my downloaded Voice Dream voice for everything. I 
really like it.
Christine
  

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Re: Kindle quick guide for accessibility

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello again, thanks for bringing some news about it.
I am wondering if, as I was told, my Audible user name and Password works for 
Amazon. Indeed, wen I log in, it lets me do it, but I don't know if this 
actually works for UK Amazon Store.
Thank you very much for your help :)
Best
Daniela Rubio T
 Distinguished Educator
iPhone: +34662328507






El 02/05/2013, a las 17:52, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com escribió:

 The link was for  the book in the US Amazon store. If you llwant to download 
 it  and you have a UK Amazon account you have to go to the Kindle store in 
 the Amazon.co.uk store. I got it by searching for Kindle guide gesture 
 accessibility iOS.
 You then get the option to digitally buy the book for £0.00. I changed the 
 combo box to my iPod Kindle App as the download destination and the next time 
 I opened the Kindle App on my iPod it was there ready for me to open and read.
 
 David Griffith 
 On 2 May 2013, at 15:50, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello!
 I just noticed the link that somebody passed for a book for using Kindle 
 with wOS and VO. I click the link, but I can not download the book. I see 
 the description, the product details, but I can't find an add to cart or 
 purchase link. Can somebody give me a hand please? Thanks!
 
 Daniela Rubio T
  Distinguished Educator
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Teresa,  

I agree, the more options the better for us.  if ibooks has a book, I will 
always buy it from them because I appreciate all Apple has done for 
accessibility.  But if they don't, it's better for us to have the widest array 
of options possible. 
Cheers, 
Donna 

Sent from my iPad

On May 2, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

I just figure that having as many book options as possible is a good thing. I 
always have several places to look for a particular book. One site may have a 
book while the other doesn't, and vice versa.

Teresa
On May 2, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in their 
 store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the two should 
 be pretty similar.
 
 http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
 the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
 books that blind people might not have had access to now do.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jessica Moss]

Are their books text only, or can you purchase audio books as well, and what's 
their price range?
On May 2, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

 This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about the 
 nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is awesome! 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this 
 was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Maria Joe Chapman]

HI.   I'm pretty sure they are text only.  Prices very.  There are websites out 
there that help you find discounted or free kindle books.  try google bookbub 
or look for an app in the app store called ebookbuffet.

I hope this helps.


Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 03/05/2013, at 6:26 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are their books text only, or can you purchase audio books as well, and 
 what's their price range?
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 
 This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about the 
 nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is awesome! 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

there text for the most part.  They do sell magazines though.  I have no idea 
if they are accessible with Voiceover or not.  As far as pricing, I've seen 
books from free, up to about $15.  Its best to go check out the books on the 
amazon kindle site I believe.

hth  

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 2, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are their books text only, or can you purchase audio books as well, and 
 what's their price range?
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 
 This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about the 
 nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is awesome! 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, thanx for the info, will give them a look.
On May 2, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 there text for the most part.  They do sell magazines though.  I have no idea 
 if they are accessible with Voiceover or not.  As far as pricing, I've seen 
 books from free, up to about $15.  Its best to go check out the books on the 
 amazon kindle site I believe.
 
 hth  
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are their books text only, or can you purchase audio books as well, and 
 what's their price range?
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 
 This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about 
 the nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is 
 awesome! 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  
 I've never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be 
 disappointed with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just 
 fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, thanx for the info, will give them a look.
On May 2, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 there text for the most part.  They do sell magazines though.  I have no idea 
 if they are accessible with Voiceover or not.  As far as pricing, I've seen 
 books from free, up to about $15.  Its best to go check out the books on the 
 amazon kindle site I believe.
 
 hth  
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are their books text only, or can you purchase audio books as well, and 
 what's their price range?
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 
 This is interesting. At first, I thought it was just another topic about 
 the nook app, lol but if Amazon's books are accessible, then this is 
 awesome! 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 2 mai 2013, at 07:49, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  
 I've never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be 
 disappointed with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just 
 fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Chris,

lol.  I think that article might be in error or, I have just been unfortunate 
in the fact that maybe a third of all the books I want to read can only be 
found on the Kindle.  I honestly don't believe that article truly reflects the 
selection gap between iBooks and the Amazon.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 2, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in their 
 store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the two should 
 be pretty similar.
 
 http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
 the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
 books that blind people might not have had access to now do.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
 never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Best then to use:
 
 www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, 
 Amazon should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  
 direct you.  Yes?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. 
 You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your 
 browser.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
 On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
 accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
 you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Wow  guys, this is cool.
 Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't 
 find an
 option to do that.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine 
 Grassman
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
 
 And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
 Christine
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed 
 with
 the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
 continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
 Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover 
 gestures
 you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman 
 cgrassman1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think 
 this was
 a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it 
 out yet
 -- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and 
 the
 Nook app?
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
 vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
 rutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Chris Blouch]

I tried hunting down any other stats but had no luck. My impression is 
that Apple is catching up to Amazon but I'd be curious to know if it 
really has or how far back it is. Maybe they don't want that well known. 
Hard to quantify just from anecdotal stuff since maybe you have eclectic 
taste. I know the itunes music store is still a bit light on Nik Kershaw :)


CB

On 5/2/13 9:22 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi Chris,

lol.  I think that article might be in error or, I have just been unfortunate 
in the fact that maybe a third of all the books I want to read can only be 
found on the Kindle.  I honestly don't believe that article truly reflects the 
selection gap between iBooks and the Amazon.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 2, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:


So this article from last October said that Apple claims 1.5M items in their 
store while Amazon says it has more than 1M items. Sounds like the two should 
be pretty similar.

http://www.imore.com/apple-ibooks-and-competing-kindle

CB

On 5/2/13 10:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

There is no difference.  A book is a book essentially.  But, Amazon just has 
the largest collection of content.  Thousands, if not tens of thousands of 
books that blind people might not have had access to now do.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:


Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks?  I've 
never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.
On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


Best then to use:

www.amazon.com/access or go through the mobile device:  IN which case, Amazon 
should be able to detect that you are using a mobile and properly  direct you.  
Yes?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:


Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile app. You 
have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through your browser.

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:


Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:


I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:


No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once you make 
a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.

On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:


Wow  guys, this is cool.
Question, can you actually search for books and stuff?  I couldn't find an
option to do that.

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And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine

On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Haha. Hi,

I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed with

the accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestures
you can use to read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com

wrote:

It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was

a joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet
-- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
Nook app?

Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi list,

In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with

Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.

http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa
vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
rutm_source=twitter

hth

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Georges Zaynoun]

Hi folks,

I am totally blind and wonder which of the standalone Kindle readers 
should I purchase to get it with speech. Sorry for this off-topic 
question which I forgot to include in my other message about Braille 
sluggishness, regards.


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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Georges Zaynoun]

I am located in Sweden and the IOS app doesn't find any search query, I 
do everything from the browser.

Original message:
Ok, what exactly is the difference between Amazon's books and Ibooks? 
I've never tried to download either/or, so don't know anything about them.



On May 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:




Best then to use:


www.amazon.com/access http://www.amazon.com/access or go through the 
mobile device: IN which case, Amazon should be able to detect that you 
are using a mobile and properly direct you. Yes?



Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!


On May 1, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:



Just a heads up. You cannot download kindles from the Amazon mobile 
app. You have to save them in your WishList, and purchase them through 
your browser.



Sent from my iPhone


On 01/05/2013, at 3:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com 
mailto:kawa...@me.com wrote:





Amazon App for the I phone is great. I use it all the time.
On 1 May 2013, at 17:38, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:




I suspect Amazon has a mobile app for the iPhone? Anyone know if it is 
accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com 
mailto:blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:




No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once 
you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.


On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com 
mailto:j...@jedbarton.com wrote:





Wow guys, this is cool.
Question, can you actually search for books and stuff? I couldn't find an
option to do that.



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Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.



And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine


On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
mailto:rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:





Haha. Hi,



I'm trying it out right now. I don't think you will be disappointed with




the accessibility. I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and
continuous reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.
Actually, when you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestures
you can use to read. including highlighting and selecting text, etc.




hth



Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info mailto:rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info http://www.appletothecore.info



On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com




wrote:





It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was




a joke. Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet
-- determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the
Nook app?




Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
mailto:rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:





Hi list,



In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with




Voiceover. You can read more about it here.



http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa 
http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-fa

vorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitte
rutm_source=twitter



hth



Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info mailto:rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info



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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mary Otten]

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever 
finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the other 
way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think iBooks is 
definitely not catching up.

Mary

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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Mary Otten]

Don't get a kindle stand alone. Just use the ios app. Navigation is better with 
the ios app than with any other means of reading Kindle books, short of 
stripping drm and reading in iBooks. No Kindle device has accessibility equal 
to the i-device app.
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Christine Grassman]

It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was a 
joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet -- 
determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the Nook app?

Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with Voiceover. 
  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-favorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitterutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Jane]

It's true, trust me.

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was a 
 joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet -- 
 determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the Nook 
 app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with 
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-favorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitterutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Ricardo Walker]

Haha. Hi,

I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed with the 
accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and continuous 
reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.  Actually, when you 
first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestures you can use to read.  
including highlighting and selecting text, etc.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was a 
 joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet -- 
 determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the Nook 
 app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with 
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-favorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitterutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.

[Christine Grassman]

And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . . 
Christine

On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haha. Hi,
 
 I'm trying it out right now.  I don't think you will be disappointed with the 
 accessibility.  I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and continuous 
 reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine.  Actually, when 
 you first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestures you can use to 
 read.  including highlighting and selecting text, etc.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was a 
 joke.  Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet -- 
 determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the Nook 
 app?
 
 Christine
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with 
 Voiceover.  You can read more about it here.
 http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-favorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitterutm_medium=twitterutm_source=twitter
 
 hth
 
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