Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-29 Thread Jon Cohn
My memory about the new mini's is that the server version and the low-end 
version do not have a GPU and that the mid-tier version does have thededicated 
graphics processor.  

So it might be that the only the medium tier mini has issues with no display 
attached.  Sounds like a fun experiment...

If folks who bought mini's after Lion came out send me an  e-mail 
with the version and their experience, I will write up a summary to the list.

On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 So this could be fixed only in the server version, which would make some 
 sense. Everyone else will still have to do the VGA to NTSC contraption I 
 outlined previously or use a real monitor.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/24/11 11:08 PM, John Panarese wrote:
 Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It 
 was Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box.  
 For me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my 
 Mini without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but 
 I now know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did or 
 similar ones when not using a monitor.
 On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 i disagree.
 this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is 
 slow when i don't have the monitor connected.
 
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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-29 Thread John Panarese
   Mine is the middle tier version, the 2.5 GHz model with the 500 GB HD.  
You're theory might be quite correct.  

Take Care

John Panarese
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On Aug 29, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Jon Cohn wrote:

 My memory about the new mini's is that the server version and the low-end 
 version do not have a GPU and that the mid-tier version does have 
 thededicated graphics processor.  
 
 So it might be that the only the medium tier mini has issues with no display 
 attached.  Sounds like a fun experiment...
 
 If folks who bought mini's after Lion came out send me an  e-mail 
 with the version and their experience, I will write up a summary to the list.
 
 On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 So this could be fixed only in the server version, which would make some 
 sense. Everyone else will still have to do the VGA to NTSC contraption I 
 outlined previously or use a real monitor.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/24/11 11:08 PM, John Panarese wrote:
Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It 
 was Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box. 
  For me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my 
 Mini without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but 
 I now know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did 
 or similar ones when not using a monitor.
 On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 i disagree.
 this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is 
 slow when i don't have the monitor connected.
 
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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-29 Thread james Walton
i have the low end version, with the intel hd3000
i have issues with my mini and no display

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-25 Thread Chris Blouch
So this could be fixed only in the server version, which would make some 
sense. Everyone else will still have to do the VGA to NTSC contraption I 
outlined previously or use a real monitor.


CB

On 8/24/11 11:08 PM, John Panarese wrote:

 Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It was 
Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box.  For 
me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my Mini 
without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but I now 
know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did or similar 
ones when not using a monitor.
On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com




i disagree.
this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is slow 
when i don't have the monitor connected.

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RE: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-25 Thread Bill Holton
Actually, I need to do a bit more checking.  I do notice that even though VO
comes up on my logon screen, often I have to turn it back on once I reach
the desktop.  And even though I don't have it connected to a monitor, I do
have a cable connected.
jAlso, the server version isn't really different from the standard version.
I got a doc from Apple describing how to revert to a standard version, and
basically, if you haven't set up networking, which I have not, the first and
only step is to delete the server icon from the dock.


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Subject: Re: Questions about mac mini

So this could be fixed only in the server version, which would make some 
sense. Everyone else will still have to do the VGA to NTSC contraption I 
outlined previously or use a real monitor.

CB

On 8/24/11 11:08 PM, John Panarese wrote:
  Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It
was Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box.
For me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my
Mini without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but
I now know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did or
similar ones when not using a monitor.
 On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:

 Take Care

 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com



 i disagree.
 this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is
slow when i don't have the monitor connected.

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-25 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

I have a 2009 mac mini without a monitor amnd it is working fine.  I do entend 
to get a vga addapter to connect thoough so we will see how my machine works 
with it.

Matthew


On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

 1. Run without a monitor: it is doable, but VO will not automatically
 start. I have not experienced the system preferences not saving that
 another lister described. I bought my Mini last week and updated to
 10.7.1, so it should be the same type you will get.
 
 2. Use iTouch as trackpad: this is also doable, but not, to my
 knowledge, in an accessible way. I contacted the developer of one such
 app, the most popular one I could find, to ask just that question and
 was told that accessibility is on the list for a future update but is
 not there yet.
 3. Show mac screen on iTouch: It looks like this is also possible, but
 no word on accessibility. A common app, from a quick google search,
 seems to be Team Viewer.
 
 On 8/24/11, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I hope
 you can help me with:
 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so
 does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info on
 screen. (smile).
 
 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
 support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
 iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow
 what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd
 ask.
 Thanks for your help,
 
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RE: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Holton
I hear from others that they have trouble using the mini without a monitor.
But I just bought the new Mini server edition, and I am having no trouble
whatsoever.  You can confirm if they have changed something that makes the
newer models more non-monitor friendly if you send them an email at

accessibil...@apple.com

Hope that helps.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:11 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Questions about mac mini

 

Hello,

 

I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I hope
you can help me with:

1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so
does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info on
screen. (smile).

 

2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?

3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow
what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd
ask.

Thanks for your help,

 

Ioana

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread John Panarese
 I just bought a mid 2011 Mac Mini last week.  I am actually going to write 
a blog post describing my adventures with the machine, but to answer your 
question, it's actually yes and no.

Yes, you can run VoiceOver and work with the Mini without a monitor.  This, 
I know Apple support people have been claiming, and on the surface, the 
assertion is true.

However, there are some oddities and little issues you must be aware of.  
Note that two other people with the same model have indicated the same 
findings.  One thing is system preference changes are not saved for some 
reason.  Secondly, VoiceOver will not start automatically.  Lastly, there is 
some sluggishness from time to time in Finder and Safari.

If you don't want to use a monitor, there is a solution, though.  When you 
order the mini, buy a mini VGA adaptor Apple does sell and is an option when 
you purchase from the Apple store.  Secondly, there is a VGA to NTSC converter 
that can be bought
http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp

 You simply connect the adaptor to the converter with one of the cables 
that comes with the converter.  Once you do this, the Mini runs perfectly with 
VoiceOver and absent of a physical monitor.


On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I hope 
 you can help me with:
 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so 
 does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info on 
 screen. (smile).
 
 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and 
 support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an iphone 
 so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow what I do 
 on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd ask.
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
1. Run without a monitor: it is doable, but VO will not automatically
start. I have not experienced the system preferences not saving that
another lister described. I bought my Mini last week and updated to
10.7.1, so it should be the same type you will get.

2. Use iTouch as trackpad: this is also doable, but not, to my
knowledge, in an accessible way. I contacted the developer of one such
app, the most popular one I could find, to ask just that question and
was told that accessibility is on the list for a future update but is
not there yet.
3. Show mac screen on iTouch: It looks like this is also possible, but
no word on accessibility. A common app, from a quick google search,
seems to be Team Viewer.

On 8/24/11, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I hope
 you can help me with:
 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so
 does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info on
 screen. (smile).

 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
 support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
 iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow
 what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd
 ask.
 Thanks for your help,

 Ioana

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread Alex Hall
I am a bit confused. Are you saying that plugging in the HDMI to DVI
adapter that my Mini came with will trick the mac into thinking it has
a screen? I can't boot mac for a while since my Windows Carbonite
backup is still restoring or I would test this myself.

On 8/24/11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
  I just bought a mid 2011 Mac Mini last week.  I am actually going to
 write a blog post describing my adventures with the machine, but to answer
 your question, it's actually yes and no.

 Yes, you can run VoiceOver and work with the Mini without a monitor.
 This, I know Apple support people have been claiming, and on the surface,
 the assertion is true.

 However, there are some oddities and little issues you must be aware of.
  Note that two other people with the same model have indicated the same
 findings.  One thing is system preference changes are not saved for some
 reason.  Secondly, VoiceOver will not start automatically.  Lastly, there is
 some sluggishness from time to time in Finder and Safari.

 If you don't want to use a monitor, there is a solution, though.  When
 you order the mini, buy a mini VGA adaptor Apple does sell and is an option
 when you purchase from the Apple store.  Secondly, there is a VGA to NTSC
 converter that can be bought
 http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp

  You simply connect the adaptor to the converter with one of the cables
 that comes with the converter.  Once you do this, the Mini runs perfectly
 with VoiceOver and absent of a physical monitor.


 On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hello,

 I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I
 hope you can help me with:
 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so
 does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info
 on screen. (smile).

 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
 support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
 iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow
 what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd
 ask.
 Thanks for your help,

 Ioana

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread John Panarese
No, this won't work alone.  You'll need the converter box I mentioned, but 
instead of the htmi adaptor, you will need a VGA adaptor.  At least, this is 
the set up that is working for me.

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com



On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

 I am a bit confused. Are you saying that plugging in the HDMI to DVI
 adapter that my Mini came with will trick the mac into thinking it has
 a screen? I can't boot mac for a while since my Windows Carbonite
 backup is still restoring or I would test this myself.
 
 On 8/24/11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just bought a mid 2011 Mac Mini last week.  I am actually going to
 write a blog post describing my adventures with the machine, but to answer
 your question, it's actually yes and no.
 
Yes, you can run VoiceOver and work with the Mini without a monitor.
 This, I know Apple support people have been claiming, and on the surface,
 the assertion is true.
 
However, there are some oddities and little issues you must be aware of.
 Note that two other people with the same model have indicated the same
 findings.  One thing is system preference changes are not saved for some
 reason.  Secondly, VoiceOver will not start automatically.  Lastly, there is
 some sluggishness from time to time in Finder and Safari.
 
If you don't want to use a monitor, there is a solution, though.  When
 you order the mini, buy a mini VGA adaptor Apple does sell and is an option
 when you purchase from the Apple store.  Secondly, there is a VGA to NTSC
 converter that can be bought
 http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
 
 You simply connect the adaptor to the converter with one of the cables
 that comes with the converter.  Once you do this, the Mini runs perfectly
 with VoiceOver and absent of a physical monitor.
 
 
 On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I
 hope you can help me with:
 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so
 does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info
 on screen. (smile).
 
 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
 support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
 iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow
 what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd
 ask.
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Ioana
 
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RE: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Holton
They must have fixed it with th new ones, because my new mini server version
is working fine without a monitor./


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No, this won't work alone.  You'll need the converter box I mentioned,
but instead of the htmi adaptor, you will need a VGA adaptor.  At least,
this is the set up that is working for me.

Take Care

John Panarese
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On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

 I am a bit confused. Are you saying that plugging in the HDMI to DVI
 adapter that my Mini came with will trick the mac into thinking it has
 a screen? I can't boot mac for a while since my Windows Carbonite
 backup is still restoring or I would test this myself.
 
 On 8/24/11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just bought a mid 2011 Mac Mini last week.  I am actually going to
 write a blog post describing my adventures with the machine, but to
answer
 your question, it's actually yes and no.
 
Yes, you can run VoiceOver and work with the Mini without a monitor.
 This, I know Apple support people have been claiming, and on the surface,
 the assertion is true.
 
However, there are some oddities and little issues you must be aware
of.
 Note that two other people with the same model have indicated the same
 findings.  One thing is system preference changes are not saved for some
 reason.  Secondly, VoiceOver will not start automatically.  Lastly, there
is
 some sluggishness from time to time in Finder and Safari.
 
If you don't want to use a monitor, there is a solution, though.  When
 you order the mini, buy a mini VGA adaptor Apple does sell and is an
option
 when you purchase from the Apple store.  Secondly, there is a VGA to NTSC
 converter that can be bought
 http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
 
 You simply connect the adaptor to the converter with one of the
cables
 that comes with the converter.  Once you do this, the Mini runs perfectly
 with VoiceOver and absent of a physical monitor.
 
 
 On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I
 hope you can help me with:
 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If
so
 does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info
 on screen. (smile).
 
 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
 support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
 iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and
follow
 what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought
I'd
 ask.
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
Nice to hear they finally resolved the issue. Next question is whether 
this is just a mini server feature or is it all minis? I can imagine 
running 'headless' is a useful feature for a server since it might just 
be stuck in a rack with dozens of other boxes and no monitor. I would 
think the same circuit board design also applies to the 'regular' 
version, but won't trust it till somebody verifies.


CB

On 8/24/11 7:18 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

They must have fixed it with th new ones, because my new mini server version
is working fine without a monitor./


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about mac mini

 No, this won't work alone.  You'll need the converter box I mentioned,
but instead of the htmi adaptor, you will need a VGA adaptor.  At least,
this is the set up that is working for me.

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com



On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


I am a bit confused. Are you saying that plugging in the HDMI to DVI
adapter that my Mini came with will trick the mac into thinking it has
a screen? I can't boot mac for a while since my Windows Carbonite
backup is still restoring or I would test this myself.

On 8/24/11, John Panaresejpanar...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I just bought a mid 2011 Mac Mini last week.  I am actually going to
write a blog post describing my adventures with the machine, but to

answer

your question, it's actually yes and no.

Yes, you can run VoiceOver and work with the Mini without a monitor.
This, I know Apple support people have been claiming, and on the surface,
the assertion is true.

However, there are some oddities and little issues you must be aware

of.

Note that two other people with the same model have indicated the same
findings.  One thing is system preference changes are not saved for some
reason.  Secondly, VoiceOver will not start automatically.  Lastly, there

is

some sluggishness from time to time in Finder and Safari.

If you don't want to use a monitor, there is a solution, though.  When
you order the mini, buy a mini VGA adaptor Apple does sell and is an

option

when you purchase from the Apple store.  Secondly, there is a VGA to NTSC
converter that can be bought
http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp

 You simply connect the adaptor to the converter with one of the

cables

that comes with the converter.  Once you do this, the Mini runs perfectly
with VoiceOver and absent of a physical monitor.


On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:


Hello,

I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I
hope you can help me with:
1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If

so

does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info
on screen. (smile).

2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and

follow

what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought

I'd

ask.
Thanks for your help,

Ioana

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread james Walton
my mini, has issues with no monitor. things become sluggish.

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
How new is it? The sluggishness and other bad behavior without a monitor 
is well known but it sounds like the very latest models might have this 
fixed.


CB

On 8/24/11 10:15 PM, james Walton wrote:

my mini, has issues with no monitor. things become sluggish.



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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread james Walton
i disagree.
this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is slow 
when i don't have the monitor connected.

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Re: Questions about mac mini

2011-08-24 Thread John Panarese
Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It was 
Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box.  For 
me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my Mini 
without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but I now 
know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did or similar 
ones when not using a monitor.
On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:

Take Care

John Panarese
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 i disagree.
 this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is slow 
 when i don't have the monitor connected.
 
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