Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   I used the same process on both books, both of which came directly 
from Amazon to my Mac. So not sure why just one book worked.


   I looked at plugins but was not sure which one I needed. Will have 
to get back to this later on.


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On 10/13/2016 11:46 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello E.T.

I orientate myself to the keyboard, so could you send details of the process of 
converting books, as you suggest? There’s a DRM plugin for calibre so that 
would simplify the whole process for everyone.

Regards,

Gena


On 13 Oct 2016, at 19:15, E.T.  wrote:

  Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the other one 
and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some more.

  By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do need to 
go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.

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On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello E.t.

Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
may not have DRM applied.

Regards,

Gena




On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. > wrote:

Gena,
 I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
it again.

 I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
steps. Same result though.

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On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.

I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
.azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
too.

Good luck.

Gena





On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. 
> wrote:

Another update on this process...

The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.

Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
convert it.

What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
the wizard gets me nowhere.

I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk  

>. This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which
you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello E.T.

I orientate myself to the keyboard, so could you send details of the process of 
converting books, as you suggest? There’s a DRM plugin for calibre so that 
would simplify the whole process for everyone.

Regards,

Gena

> On 13 Oct 2016, at 19:15, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the other 
> one and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some more.
> 
>   By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do need 
> to go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello E.t.
>> 
>> Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
>> may not have DRM applied.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gena,
>>>  I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
>>> it again.
>>> 
>>>  I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
>>> steps. Same result though.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
 steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.
 
 I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
 .azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
 too.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Gena
 
 
 
 
> On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T.  
> > wrote:
> 
> Another update on this process...
> 
> The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
> once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.
> 
> Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
> is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
> convert it.
> 
> What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
> popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
> The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
> not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
> status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
> the wizard gets me nowhere.
> 
> I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
> are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  
> 
> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
>> 
>> This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
>> Users
>> must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
>> is not
>> for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
>> 
>> Download the following:
>> Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
>> set to amazon.co.uk  
>> 
>> >. This setting is difficult to
>> change so download from your country to save you the bother.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110
>> 
>> From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
>> forced the
>> authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
>> typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
>> a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
>> dialog
>> box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
>> been successful because it will present the opening screen which
>> you can
>> VO arrow left and right.
>> 
>> Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
>> sure
>> this is the right one.
>> 
>> http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download
>> 
>> This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
>> Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
>> find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
>> toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
>> finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
>> 
>> Now download Calibre:

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the 
other one and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some 
more.


   By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do 
need to go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello E.t.

Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
may not have DRM applied.

Regards,

Gena




On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. > wrote:

Gena,
  I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
it again.

  I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
steps. Same result though.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.

I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
.azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
too.

Good luck.

Gena





On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. 
> wrote:

 Another update on this process...

 The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.

 Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
convert it.

 What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
the wizard gets me nowhere.

 I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk  

>. This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which
you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something
like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the
filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello E.t.

Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some may not 
have DRM applied.

Regards,

Gena



> On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Gena,
>   I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try it 
> again.
> 
>   I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your steps. 
> Same result though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
>> steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.
>> 
>> I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
>> .azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
>> too.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. >> >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Another update on this process...
>>> 
>>>  The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
>>> once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.
>>> 
>>>  Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
>>> is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
>>> convert it.
>>> 
>>>  What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
>>> popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
>>> The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
>>> not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
>>> status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
>>> the wizard gets me nowhere.
>>> 
>>>  I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
>>> are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>>> >
>>> 
>>> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
 Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
 
 This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
 must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
 for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
 
 Download the following:
 Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
 set to amazon.co.uk  > 
 >>. This setting is difficult 
 to
 change so download from your country to save you the bother.
 
 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110 
 
 
 From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
 authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
 typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
 a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
 box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
 been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
 VO arrow left and right.
 
 Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
 this is the right one.
 
 http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download 
 
 
 This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
 Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
 find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
 toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
 finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
 
 Now download Calibre:
 https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx 
 
 For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
 line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
 
 /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
 
 Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:
 
 ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
 
 Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
 
 Here’s the help file:
 
 Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
 
 Convert an ebook from one format to another.
 
 input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
 specified as the first two arguments to the command.
 
 The output 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

Gena,
   I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try 
it again.


   I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your 
steps. Same result though.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.

I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
.azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
too.

Good luck.

Gena





On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. > wrote:

  Another update on this process...

  The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.

  Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
convert it.

  What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
the wizard gets me nowhere.

  I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk  >. This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
spaces"

Options:
 --version   show program's 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the steps you 
take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.

I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like .azw is 
the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files too.

Good luck.

Gena




> On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Another update on this process...
> 
>   The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but once 
> those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.
> 
>   Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file is the 
> file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and convert it.
> 
>   What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be popping up 
> since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon. The wizard deals 
> with content that comes from other sources so should not apply. I cannot do 
> the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the status for the 2nd book shows 
> "information is incoeect". Dismissing the wizard gets me nowhere.
> 
>   I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both are in 
> the library folder. Will keep working on this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
>> 
>> This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
>> must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
>> for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
>> 
>> Download the following:
>> Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
>> set to amazon.co.uk  > >. This setting is difficult to
>> change so download from your country to save you the bother.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110 
>> 
>> 
>> From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
>> authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
>> typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
>> a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
>> box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
>> been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
>> VO arrow left and right.
>> 
>> Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
>> this is the right one.
>> 
>> http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download 
>> 
>> 
>> This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
>> Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
>> find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
>> toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
>> finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
>> 
>> Now download Calibre:
>> https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx 
>> 
>> For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
>> line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
>> 
>> /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
>> 
>> Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:
>> 
>> ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
>> 
>> Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
>> 
>> Here’s the help file:
>> 
>> Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
>> 
>> Convert an ebook from one format to another.
>> 
>> input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
>> specified as the first two arguments to the command.
>> 
>> The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
>> output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
>> EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
>> file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
>> must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
>> then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
>> of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
>> that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.
>> 
>> After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
>> conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
>> on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
>> input and output file and then use the -h option.
>> 
>> For full documentation of the conversion system see
>> https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Whenever you pass arguments to 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   Another update on this process...

   The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but 
once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.


   Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file 
is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and 
convert it.


   What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be 
popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon. The 
wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should not 
apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the status 
for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing the wizard 
gets me nowhere.


   I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both 
are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.


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On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

 Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
spaces"

Options:
  --version   show program's version number and exit

  -h, --help  show this help message and exit

  --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
  builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe
Name.recipe"
  output.epub


Created by Kovid Goyal >












On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller > wrote:

Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire
collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my
mac.  2. I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open
them with command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and
either method does not work.  What am I doing wrong here?

On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

Gena,
   I sent feedback and will do so each time I open the app.

   Now I am running the removal tool. What file type is the actual book 
file? There are 4 different file types for each book.


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On 10/11/2016 1:52 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

Well let’s hope they are working to make it accessible then we won’t have to 
faff to gain access.

Gena


On 11 Oct 2016, at 02:32, E.T.  wrote:

  I see the problem now. The version on the app store is a year old. No wonder. 
The app on the Amazon site was just updated last month.

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On 10/10/2016 2:08 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your books. 
VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If you’ve opened 
your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it from the menu. 
If you look at the menu again you will see below the open option is close book.

Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.

You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?

Regards,

Gena

On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:53, E.T.  wrote:



Gena,
 I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got the 
registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the Mac. The 
only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title bar.

 I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I am 
unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other two apps.

 We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.

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Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Well let’s hope they are working to make it accessible then we won’t have to 
faff to gain access.

Gena

> On 11 Oct 2016, at 02:32, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I see the problem now. The version on the app store is a year old. No 
> wonder. The app on the Amazon site was just updated last month.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/10/2016 2:08 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your 
>> books. VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If 
>> you’ve opened your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it 
>> from the menu. If you look at the menu again you will see below the open 
>> option is close book.
>> 
>> Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.
>> 
>> You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:53, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>> Gena,
>>>  I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got 
>>> the registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the 
>>> Mac. The only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title 
>>> bar.
>>> 
>>>  I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I 
>>> am unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other 
>>> two apps.
>>> 
>>>  We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
 Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
 
 This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
 must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
 for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
 
 Download the following:
 Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
 set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
 change so download from your country to save you the bother.
 
 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110
 
 From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
 authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
 typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
 a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
 box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
 been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
 VO arrow left and right.
 
 Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
 this is the right one.
 
 http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download
 
 This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
 Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
 find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
 toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
 finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
 
 Now download Calibre:
 https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
 For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
 line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
 
 /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
 
 Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:
 
 ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
 
 Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
 
 Here’s the help file:
 
 Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
 
 Convert an ebook from one format to another.
 
 input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
 specified as the first two arguments to the command.
 
 The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
 output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
 EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
 file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
 must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
 then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
 of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
 that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.
 
 After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
 conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
 on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
 input and output file and then use the -h option.
 
 For 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   I see the problem now. The version on the app store is a year old. 
No wonder. The app on the Amazon site was just updated last month.


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On 10/10/2016 2:08 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your books. 
VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If you’ve opened 
your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it from the menu. 
If you look at the menu again you will see below the open option is close book.

Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.

You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?

Regards,

Gena

On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:53, E.T.  wrote:



Gena,
  I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got the 
registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the Mac. The 
only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title bar.

  I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I am 
unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other two apps.

  We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
spaces"

Options:
 --version   show program's version number and exit

 -h, --help  show this help message and exit

 --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
 builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe
Name.recipe"
 output.epub


Created by Kovid Goyal >












On 8 Oct 2016, at 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   I missed that one but just now installed the app downloaded from 
Amazon. Its slightly better but the registration process was no easier. 
I think I will use the Send Feedback option on the help menu on a daily 
basis, Might work?


   Its interesting that the app from the app store does not work the 
same as the one from Amazon's site.


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On 10/10/2016 2:08 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your books. 
VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If you’ve opened 
your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it from the menu. 
If you look at the menu again you will see below the open option is close book.

Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.

You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?

Regards,

Gena

On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:53, E.T.  wrote:



Gena,
  I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got the 
registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the Mac. The 
only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title bar.

  I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I am 
unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other two apps.

  We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
spaces"

Options:
 --version   show program's version number and exit

 -h, --help  show this help message and exit

 --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
   

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users must 
take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not for the 
faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

 Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is set to 
amazon.co.uk. This setting is difficult to change so download from your country 
to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

>From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the 
>authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I typed in 
>my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have a fast Mac but 
>this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog box. You’ll get very 
>little speech out of it. You will know if you have been successful because it 
>will present the opening screen which you can VO arrow left and right.

It appears that those who get kindle from the app store can’t get as much 
accessibility as those who downloaded from the Amazon website.

Your book store is likely to be:

~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content


Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure this 
is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the Mac. It 
will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I find the selection 
of books frustrating . You need to interact with the toolbar and click on the 
open files button. Which brings up a typical finder window and it’s difficult 
to know which book is which.

Your DRM removed files are in:

~/Documents/eBook Converter/Kindle DRM Removal/


Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command line 
tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. An example of a convert on the command line 
something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be specified 
as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of output_file. 
output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where EXT is the output file 
extension. In this case, the name of the output file is derived from the name 
of the input file. Note that the filenames must not start with a hyphen. 
Finally, if output_file has no extension, then it is treated as a directory and 
an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting of HTML files is written to that directory. 
These files are the files that would normally have been passed to the output 
plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the conversion by 
specifying various options. The available options depend on the input and 
output file types. To get help on them specify the input and output file and 
then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them, enclose 
the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with spaces"

Options:
  --version   show program's version number and exit

  -h, --help  show this help message and exit

  --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
  builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe Name.recipe"
  output.epub


Created by Kovid Goyal 









> On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Brandt Steenkamp  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> The booklist in Kindle for mac is totally unusable as far as I know. If there 
> is an accessible version, please let me know. I have the one from the 
> Appstore.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
> 
> Contact:
> 
> Phone:
> Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 
> For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 
> 
> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com 
> 
> Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp 
>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 11:08 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your 
>> books. VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If 
>> you’ve opened your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it 
>> from the menu. If you look at the menu again you will see below the open 
>> option is close book.
>> 
>> Your books will be in 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Brandt Steenkamp]

Hi there,

The booklist in Kindle for mac is totally unusable as far as I know. If there 
is an accessible version, please let me know. I have the one from the Appstore.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from my Macbook Pro

Contact:

Phone:
Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 
For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 

Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com 

Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp 
> On 10 Oct 2016, at 11:08 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your books. 
> VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If you’ve opened 
> your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it from the menu. 
> If you look at the menu again you will see below the open option is close 
> book.
> 
> Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.
> 
> You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:53, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>> Gena,
>>  I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got the 
>> registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the Mac. 
>> The only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title bar.
>> 
>>  I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I 
>> am unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other 
>> two apps.
>> 
>>  We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>> Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
>>> 
>>> This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
>>> must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
>>> for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
>>> 
>>> Download the following:
>>> Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
>>> set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
>>> change so download from your country to save you the bother.
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110
>>> 
>>> From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
>>> authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
>>> typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
>>> a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
>>> box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
>>> been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
>>> VO arrow left and right.
>>> 
>>> Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
>>> this is the right one.
>>> 
>>> http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download
>>> 
>>> This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
>>> Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
>>> find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
>>> toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
>>> finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
>>> 
>>> Now download Calibre:
>>> https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
>>> For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
>>> line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
>>> 
>>> /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
>>> 
>>> Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:
>>> 
>>> ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
>>> 
>>> Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
>>> 
>>> Here’s the help file:
>>> 
>>> Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
>>> 
>>> Convert an ebook from one format to another.
>>> 
>>> input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
>>> specified as the first two arguments to the command.
>>> 
>>> The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
>>> output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
>>> EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
>>> file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
>>> must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
>>> then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
>>> of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
>>> that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.
>>> 
>>> After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
>>> conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
>>> on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
>>> input and output file and then use the -h option.
>>> 
>>> For full documentation of the 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your books. 
VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If you’ve opened 
your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it from the menu. 
If you look at the menu again you will see below the open option is close book.

Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.

You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?

Regards,

Gena
> On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:53, E.T.  wrote:

> Gena,
>   I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got the 
> registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the Mac. 
> The only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title bar.
> 
>   I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I 
> am unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other two 
> apps.
> 
>   We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
>> 
>> This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
>> must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
>> for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
>> 
>> Download the following:
>> Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
>> set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
>> change so download from your country to save you the bother.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110
>> 
>> From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
>> authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
>> typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
>> a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
>> box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
>> been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
>> VO arrow left and right.
>> 
>> Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
>> this is the right one.
>> 
>> http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download
>> 
>> This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
>> Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
>> find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
>> toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
>> finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
>> 
>> Now download Calibre:
>> https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
>> For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
>> line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
>> 
>> /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
>> 
>> Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:
>> 
>> ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
>> 
>> Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
>> 
>> Here’s the help file:
>> 
>> Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
>> 
>> Convert an ebook from one format to another.
>> 
>> input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
>> specified as the first two arguments to the command.
>> 
>> The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
>> output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
>> EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
>> file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
>> must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
>> then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
>> of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
>> that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.
>> 
>> After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
>> conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
>> on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
>> input and output file and then use the -h option.
>> 
>> For full documentation of the conversion system see
>> https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html
>> 
>> Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
>> enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
>> spaces"
>> 
>> Options:
>>  --version   show program's version number and exit
>> 
>>  -h, --help  show this help message and exit
>> 
>>  --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
>>  builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe
>> Name.recipe"
>>  output.epub
>> 
>> 
>> Created by Kovid Goyal >
>> 
>> 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

Gena,
   I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I 
got the registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book 
on the Mac. The only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar 
and title bar.


   I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder 
but I am unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running 
the other two apps.


   We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

 Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk . This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
spaces"

Options:
  --version   show program's version number and exit

  -h, --help  show this help message and exit

  --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
  builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe
Name.recipe"
  output.epub


Created by Kovid Goyal >












On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller > wrote:

Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire
collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my
mac.  2. I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open
them with command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and
either method does not work.  What am I doing wrong here?

On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:

Hello,

Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped
file in a subdirectory of your documents folder.

~/Documents/Ebook Converter/

As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation
of the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Kliphton Miller]

I didn’t ask my kids, once I logged in, I figured I didn’t need there eyes any 
more.  I got it from the app store, do I need the one from amazon?
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Clifton,
> 
> So can your kids open them? Did you install from the app store or download 
> from Amazon?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 20:09, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Also, to follow up to confirm that my device is registered, my kids tell me 
>> that they see a bunch of book covers.
>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Clifton,
>>> 
>>> You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your 
>>> device. The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as 
>>> you claim you will understand this. Read the install instructions for 
>>> Kindle for Mac as supplied by Amazon.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller > wrote:
 
 Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
 collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  
 2. I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with 
 command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does 
 not work.  What am I doing wrong here?
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file 
> in a subdirectory of your documents folder.
> 
> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
> 
> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
> the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
> your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO 
> keys. By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, 
> then closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see 
> the commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to 
> get the focus on the book I want to open.
> 
> As I said, it’s clunky!
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the 
>> kindle ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
>> htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
>> somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
>> lcoud TO the mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
 myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is 
 pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
 generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
 search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
 free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  > wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading 
> using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in 
> as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make 
> the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions 
> here as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Cliphton,

If you pull down the menus you can see if you have a book open. If on the file 
menu the open book option is dimmed and below that is the option close book 
then logic has it that a book is open. If a book is not open the option below 
it is close window. In this case, if the open book option is dimmed you need to 
click on a book.

Regards,

Gena



> On 8 Oct 2016, at 20:09, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Also, to follow up to confirm that my device is registered, my kids tell me 
> that they see a bunch of book covers.
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Clifton,
>> 
>> You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your 
>> device. The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as you 
>> claim you will understand this. Read the install instructions for Kindle for 
>> Mac as supplied by Amazon.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
>>> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. 
>>> I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with 
>>> command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does 
>>> not work.  What am I doing wrong here?
 On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file 
 in a subdirectory of your documents folder.
 
 ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
 
 As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
 the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
 your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
 By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
 closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
 commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
 the focus on the book I want to open.
 
 As I said, it’s clunky!
 
 Gena
 
 
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
> htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
> somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
> lcoud TO the mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>> 
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>> 
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>> 
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>>> myself
>>> than necessary.
>>> 
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is 
>>> pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>>> generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>>> search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>> 
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>>> free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > wrote:
 
 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading 
 using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.
 
 
 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make 
 the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
 as
 well.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
 
> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a 
> program

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Clifton,

When you pull the books down to your HD they should be in
~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content/

They have to be opened to pull them down. As stated several times. You cannot 
read them with VoiceOver from the kindle app. To get VoiceOver to focus on a 
book you need to press the enter key. Then command O to open then you need to 
close it so you can open another.

Gena




> On 8 Oct 2016, at 20:09, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Also, to follow up to confirm that my device is registered, my kids tell me 
> that they see a bunch of book covers.
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Clifton,
>> 
>> You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your 
>> device. The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as you 
>> claim you will understand this. Read the install instructions for Kindle for 
>> Mac as supplied by Amazon.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
>>> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. 
>>> I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with 
>>> command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does 
>>> not work.  What am I doing wrong here?
 On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file 
 in a subdirectory of your documents folder.
 
 ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
 
 As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
 the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
 your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
 By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
 closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
 commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
 the focus on the book I want to open.
 
 As I said, it’s clunky!
 
 Gena
 
 
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
> htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
> somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
> lcoud TO the mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>> 
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>> 
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>> 
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>>> myself
>>> than necessary.
>>> 
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is 
>>> pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>>> generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>>> search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>> 
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>>> free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > wrote:
 
 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading 
 using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.
 
 
 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make 
 the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
 as
 well.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
 
> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Clifton,

So can your kids open them? Did you install from the app store or download from 
Amazon?

Regards,

Gena



> On 8 Oct 2016, at 20:09, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Also, to follow up to confirm that my device is registered, my kids tell me 
> that they see a bunch of book covers.
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Clifton,
>> 
>> You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your 
>> device. The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as you 
>> claim you will understand this. Read the install instructions for Kindle for 
>> Mac as supplied by Amazon.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
>>> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. 
>>> I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with 
>>> command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does 
>>> not work.  What am I doing wrong here?
 On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file 
 in a subdirectory of your documents folder.
 
 ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
 
 As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
 the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
 your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
 By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
 closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
 commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
 the focus on the book I want to open.
 
 As I said, it’s clunky!
 
 Gena
 
 
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
> htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
> somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
> lcoud TO the mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>> 
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>> 
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>> 
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>>> myself
>>> than necessary.
>>> 
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is 
>>> pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>>> generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>>> search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>> 
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>>> free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > wrote:
 
 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading 
 using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.
 
 
 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make 
 the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
 as
 well.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
 
> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a 
> program
> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
> books with VoiceOver?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Kliphton Miller]

Also, to follow up to confirm that my device is registered, my kids tell me 
that they see a bunch of book covers.
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Clifton,
> 
> You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your device. 
> The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as you claim 
> you will understand this. Read the install instructions for Kindle for Mac as 
> supplied by Amazon.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
>> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. 
>> I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with command 
>> O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does not work. 
>>  What am I doing wrong here?
>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>>> 
>>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>>> 
>>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
>>> the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
>>> your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
>>> By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
>>> closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
>>> commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
>>> the focus on the book I want to open.
>>> 
>>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > wrote:
 
 Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
 ebook to word or html.
 For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
 htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
 somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
 lcoud TO the mac…
 Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  > wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
> wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>> myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>> generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>> search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>> free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
>>> as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>>> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Kliphton Miller]

My device is registered.  It says “Kliphton’s kindle for mac” When I open the 
kindle app and just to the left of the tool bar.
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Clifton,
> 
> You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your device. 
> The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as you claim 
> you will understand this. Read the install instructions for Kindle for Mac as 
> supplied by Amazon.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
>> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. 
>> I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with command 
>> O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does not work. 
>>  What am I doing wrong here?
>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>>> 
>>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>>> 
>>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
>>> the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
>>> your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
>>> By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
>>> closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
>>> commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
>>> the focus on the book I want to open.
>>> 
>>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > wrote:
 
 Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
 ebook to word or html.
 For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
 htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
 somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
 lcoud TO the mac…
 Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  > wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
> wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>> myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>> generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>> search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>> free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
>>> as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
>>> 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Clifton,

You won’t be able to access your books until you have registered your device. 
The opening dialogs tell you this. If you have a huge library as you claim you 
will understand this. Read the install instructions for Kindle for Mac as 
supplied by Amazon.

Gena




> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. I 
> can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with command O. 
>  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does not work.  
> What am I doing wrong here?
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>> 
>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>> 
>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
>> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
>> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
>> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
>> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on 
>> the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on 
>> the book I want to open.
>> 
>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>>> ebook to word or html.
>>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO 
>>> the mac…
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > wrote:
 
 that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
 program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
 
 On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
 wrote:
> Hello David etc.
> 
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
> 
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
> generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
> 
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > > wrote:
>> 
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>> 
>> 
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users must 
take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not for the 
faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

 Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is set to 
amazon.co.uk. This setting is difficult to change so download from your country 
to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

>From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the 
>authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I typed in 
>my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have a fast Mac but 
>this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog box. You’ll get very 
>little speech out of it. You will know if you have been successful because it 
>will present the opening screen which you can VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure this 
is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the Mac. It 
will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I find the selection 
of books frustrating . You need to interact with the toolbar and click on the 
open files button. Which brings up a typical finder window and it’s difficult 
to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command line 
tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be specified 
as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of output_file. 
output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where EXT is the output file 
extension. In this case, the name of the output file is derived from the name 
of the input file. Note that the filenames must not start with a hyphen. 
Finally, if output_file has no extension, then it is treated as a directory and 
an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting of HTML files is written to that directory. 
These files are the files that would normally have been passed to the output 
plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the conversion by 
specifying various options. The available options depend on the input and 
output file types. To get help on them specify the input and output file and 
then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them, enclose 
the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with spaces"

Options:
  --version   show program's version number and exit

  -h, --help  show this help message and exit

  --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
  builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe Name.recipe"
  output.epub


Created by Kovid Goyal 











> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. I 
> can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with command O. 
>  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does not work.  
> What am I doing wrong here?
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>> 
>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>> 
>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
>> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
>> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
>> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
>> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on 
>> the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on 
>> the book I want to open.
>> 
>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Kliphton Miller]

Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire 
collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my mac.  2. I 
can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open them with command O.  
I have tried with quick nav on and off, and either method does not work.  What 
am I doing wrong here?
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in a 
> subdirectory of your documents folder.
> 
> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
> 
> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on the 
> pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on the 
> book I want to open.
> 
> As I said, it’s clunky!
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>> ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the 
>> mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
>>> wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  > wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>> books with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Kliphton Miller]

do you have those instructions in a previous email you could send to me?  I 
came late to the thread.  Just send it to
kliph...@icloud.com
note the spelling of my name is not traditional.
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Clifton,
> 
> Yes I do it myself and I’ve outlined the steps previously. I don’t have the 
> time to keep repeating myself. Do not hesitate to ask about something 
> specific you are struggling with.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 19:27, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
>> almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and 
>> not be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to 
>> the programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  
>> Thanks.
>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>>> 
>>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>>> 
>>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of 
>>> the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to 
>>> your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. 
>>> By interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then 
>>> closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the 
>>> commands on the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get 
>>> the focus on the book I want to open.
>>> 
>>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > wrote:
 
 Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
 ebook to word or html.
 For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle 
 htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have 
 somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the 
 lcoud TO the mac…
 Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  > wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
> wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for 
>> myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
>> generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to 
>> search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a 
>> free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
>>> as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, For me even with the help provided it does not work on the mac. However I 
can get the book spulled down using the ‘accessible’ version of kindle for 
windows. I am now trying to use codex to convert them, still in the proces 
though so not sure yet if it will work.
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 20:27, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
> almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and not 
> be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to the 
> programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  Thanks.
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>> 
>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>> 
>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
>> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
>> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
>> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
>> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on 
>> the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on 
>> the book I want to open.
>> 
>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>>> ebook to word or html.
>>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO 
>>> the mac…
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > wrote:
 
 that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
 program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
 
 On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
 wrote:
> Hello David etc.
> 
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
> 
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
> generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
> 
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > > wrote:
>> 
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>> 
>> 
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Clifton,

Yes I do it myself and I’ve outlined the steps previously. I don’t have the 
time to keep repeating myself. Do not hesitate to ask about something specific 
you are struggling with.

Gena


> On 7 Oct 2016, at 19:27, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
> almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and not 
> be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to the 
> programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  Thanks.
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in 
>> a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>> 
>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>> 
>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
>> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
>> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
>> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
>> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on 
>> the pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on 
>> the book I want to open.
>> 
>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>>> ebook to word or html.
>>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO 
>>> the mac…
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
 On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > wrote:
 
 that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
 program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
 
 On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
 wrote:
> Hello David etc.
> 
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
> 
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to 
> generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
> 
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > > wrote:
>> 
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>> 
>> 
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Kliphton Miller]

Has anyone did this with success?  I have an old amazon account where I have 
almost 2500 books, and I would love to put them in my own collection, and not 
be tied to that account any more.  If someone could provide the links to the 
programs we need, and if sited help is needed, that would be great.  Thanks.
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in a 
> subdirectory of your documents folder.
> 
> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
> 
> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
> library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
> account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
> interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing 
> it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on the 
> pull down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on the 
> book I want to open.
> 
> As I said, it’s clunky!
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
>> ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow 
>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the 
>> mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
>>> wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  > wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>> books with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped file in a 
subdirectory of your documents folder.

~/Documents/Ebook Converter/

As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation of the 
library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your app to your 
account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it using VO keys. By 
interacting with the book list you can open a book by cmd + o, then closing it 
by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the HD. You can see the commands on the pull 
down menus. I need to press return sometimes to get the focus on the book I 
want to open.

As I said, it’s clunky!

Gena


> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle 
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow been 
> able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>> 
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>> 
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce > 
>> wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>> 
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
>>> than necessary.
>>> 
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>> 
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith > wrote:
 
 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.
 
 
 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
 well.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
 
> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
> books with VoiceOver?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Sandi, if the books are in kindle i am sure I can locate the folder and copy 
them. The question was and is how to get them to the mac in the first place 
bacause the kindle app seems totally inaccessible with voiceover (perhaps it 
works with magnification but I am totally blind).
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 13:11, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> well, I'm sure thee is ways to do that. i have a few ones from another
> book store. if you are good with the terminal in mac, you could just
> grep or make a search for them
> 
> On 10/7/16, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com
>>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle
>> ebook to word or html.
>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough?
>> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow
>> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the
>> mac…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 Hello David etc.
 
 It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for
 myself
 than necessary.
 
 1. Buy a book from Amazon
 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is
 pulled
 down on to the Mac’s HD.
 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to
 generate
 whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to
 search
 so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
 
 That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a
 free
 demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Gena
 
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading
> using
> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
> available on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make
> the
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here
> as
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a
>> program
>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>> books with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

well, I'm sure thee is ways to do that. i have a few ones from another
book store. if you are good with the terminal in mac, you could just
grep or make a search for them

On 10/7/16, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com
>  it can strip drm AND convert the kindle
> ebook to word or html.
> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough?
> Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow
> been able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the
> mac…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>>
>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>
>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> Hello David etc.
>>>
>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for
>>> myself
>>> than necessary.
>>>
>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is
>>> pulled
>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to
>>> generate
>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to
>>> search
>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>>
>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a
>>> free
>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Gena
>>>
 On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:

 The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading
 using
 the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
 available on Windows.


 I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make
 the
 Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here
 as
 well.


 David Griffith


 MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:

> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com 
 it can strip drm AND convert the kindle ebook 
to word or html.
For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle htough? 
Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I have somehow been 
able to login but how to get all the kindle books FROM the lcoud TO the mac…
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone,
I have a HUGE kindle library and would love to read it on the mac with my 
braille display.
I read the messages below BUT for me I never am able to load books into kindle 
for mac because this seems to be totally vo inaccessible. Hoe do you guys do 
this?
I woo would like the link for the drm removal tool of course I would only use 
it on books that i have bought but want to use on other devi ces or read with 
my braille display.
Thanks in advance
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
> 
> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello David etc.
>> 
>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
>> than necessary.
>> 
>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>> 
>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>>> available on Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
 Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
 like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
 books with VoiceOver?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
program, however, do you have a  url for that ?

On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> Hello David etc.
>
> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself
> than necessary.
>
> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled
> down on to the Mac’s HD.
> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate
> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search
> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>
> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free
> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Gena
>
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
>>
>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using
>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as
>> available on Windows.
>>
>>
>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the
>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as
>> well.
>>
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>>
>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>
>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert
>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program
>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle
>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello David etc.

It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder for myself than 
necessary.

1. Buy a book from Amazon
2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is pulled down 
on to the Mac’s HD.
3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s DRM.
4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to generate 
whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able to search so I 
convert to plain text. Others I use epubl

That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that offers a free demo 
period but then a licence has to be purchased.

Regards,


Gena

> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using the 
> Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as available 
> on Windows.
> 
> 
> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the 
> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here as 
> well.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert 
>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program like 
>> this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle books with 
>> VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[David Griffith]

The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book reading using 
the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug in as 
available on Windows.



I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to make the 
Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions here 
as well.



David Griffith


MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:


On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to convert Kindle 
books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a program like this for 
Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read Kindle books with VoiceOver?

Sent from my iPhone



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