Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
the trend for those are quite ominous. Bots are capturing all captchas and recording all of them. what is happening now is that these saved captchas are being placed on randomly created websites and domaines where actual human beings are solving them thereby the bots getting the proper responses they need to bypass captchas. Google is implementing something very unique but there isn’t much to go on to determine how affective it is. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:45 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: General problem with those is that an algorithm can parse and solve those as well. The better solution is to just provide an audio captcha. CB On 1/22/15 7:10 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
The google thing uses a checkbox and trying to determine if a person is clicking it. I've found it kind of hit or miss with Jaws though. I suspect it might be because of the way a screen reader clicks on things might false trigger them to think one isn't real. - Original Message - From: Faisal ali To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas the trend for those are quite ominous. Bots are capturing all captchas and recording all of them. what is happening now is that these saved captchas are being placed on randomly created websites and domaines where actual human beings are solving them thereby the bots getting the proper responses they need to bypass captchas. Google is implementing something very unique but there isn’t much to go on to determine how affective it is. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:45 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: General problem with those is that an algorithm can parse and solve those as well. The better solution is to just provide an audio captcha. CB On 1/22/15 7:10 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes No Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Hmm, not so sure about that. I know the audio captchas I've played with are a string of 6-8 random letters or numbers strung together with different voices speaking each letter at different pitches and durations overlaid with noise and background speech. I suspect nearly every one is different. CB On 1/23/15 12:56 PM, Faisal ali wrote: the trend for those are quite ominous. Bots are capturing all captchas and recording all of them. what is happening now is that these saved captchas are being placed on randomly created websites and domaines where actual human beings are solving them thereby the bots getting the proper responses they need to bypass captchas. Google is implementing something very unique but there isn’t much to go on to determine how affective it is. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:45 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: General problem with those is that an algorithm can parse and solve those as well. The better solution is to just provide an audio captcha. CB On 1/22/15 7:10 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. *Did I solve your problem?* Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. *Amazon.com http://amazon.com/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Hi, to my knowledge, if you keep hitting on new challenge, a new set of letters and numbers will appear. These bots keep hitting new challenge and recording what shows up. Naturally, there is a certain amount of letter and number combinations before this is exhausted. This is how they are able to get passed it. for this very reason, companies like google are looking for alternative methods of verifying whether you are human. I have sighted family members and colleagues who also complain that the captcha images are very difficult to read and the audio captchas are extremely difficult to understand as they are horribly distorted, to the point of being incomprehensible on some sites. On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:12 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Hmm, not so sure about that. I know the audio captchas I've played with are a string of 6-8 random letters or numbers strung together with different voices speaking each letter at different pitches and durations overlaid with noise and background speech. I suspect nearly every one is different. CB On 1/23/15 12:56 PM, Faisal ali wrote: the trend for those are quite ominous. Bots are capturing all captchas and recording all of them. what is happening now is that these saved captchas are being placed on randomly created websites and domaines where actual human beings are solving them thereby the bots getting the proper responses they need to bypass captchas. Google is implementing something very unique but there isn’t much to go on to determine how affective it is. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:45 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: General problem with those is that an algorithm can parse and solve those as well. The better solution is to just provide an audio captcha. CB On 1/22/15 7:10 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Yup, I agree that the arms race has reached the point where it's become difficult for real people to pass either the visual or audio captchas because they have to be scrambled so much to knock out the bots. As far as the number of combinations, just the 26 letter and 10 numbers (36 glyphs) with, say, six chosen for each puzzle would be about 2 billion different sets. Somebody would have to do a lot of recordings to crack that even without the voice pitch and duration changes. I'm hoping someday for a better puzzle which differentiates between perception which is easy for humans and hard for algorithms. The best thing I've found so far was published in a paper by Jonathan Lazar which uses sound cues and timings. Maybe someday I'll have the bandwidth to try and implement their solution. triton.towson.edu/~jlazar/soundsright_chi2012.doc CB On 1/23/15 2:19 PM, Faisal ali wrote: Hi, to my knowledge, if you keep hitting on new challenge, a new set of letters and numbers will appear. These bots keep hitting new challenge and recording what shows up. Naturally, there is a certain amount of letter and number combinations before this is exhausted. This is how they are able to get passed it. for this very reason, companies like google are looking for alternative methods of verifying whether you are human. I have sighted family members and colleagues who also complain that the captcha images are very difficult to read and the audio captchas are extremely difficult to understand as they are horribly distorted, to the point of being incomprehensible on some sites. On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:12 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Hmm, not so sure about that. I know the audio captchas I've played with are a string of 6-8 random letters or numbers strung together with different voices speaking each letter at different pitches and durations overlaid with noise and background speech. I suspect nearly every one is different. CB On 1/23/15 12:56 PM, Faisal ali wrote: the trend for those are quite ominous. Bots are capturing all captchas and recording all of them. what is happening now is that these saved captchas are being placed on randomly created websites and domaines where actual human beings are solving them thereby the bots getting the proper responses they need to bypass captchas. Google is implementing something very unique but there isn’t much to go on to determine how affective it is. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:45 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: General problem with those is that an algorithm can parse and solve those as well. The better solution is to just provide an audio captcha. CB On 1/22/15 7:10 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. *Did I solve your problem?* Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
General problem with those is that an algorithm can parse and solve those as well. The better solution is to just provide an audio captcha. CB On 1/22/15 7:10 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. *Did I solve your problem?* Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. *Amazon.com http://amazon.com/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Hello, Why not request to solve a brief math problem? I’ve seen this on several pages and I love this concept. On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
nope, and I suggested it. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Seems to me that the CAPTIA is presented when trying to change your password. - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isnā?Tt the issue. Iā?Tve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time Iā?Tve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Nope! No audio captcha. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Well, frankly, if I wanted to run windows, I'll use a windows machine. I didn't buy this Mac book pro to run windows. To me, that's no answer. Yes, I have seen this from Amazon before and the only work around is to use: www.amazon.com/access Even then, I'm still not sure to what extent that works. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote: you’d have to run windows or linux to use it on the Mac. I was running xp. when I used it very successfully. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve never gotten web visum to work on the Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote: if you have access to firefox you can get webvisum. that often worked for me with standard capchas. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Try www.skipimput.com Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 803-8528 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On 12-Jan-15 12:23 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: I was using Safari on my Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't t otally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Take a screenshot and send it to someone who can read it and send the results back to you while you wait. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 1/12/2015 11:27 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I’ve considered using linux. I bet it would run great on a Mac. the best thing woud be if Apple did a thing like webvisum or if firefox was accessible on the Mac. On Jan 12, 2015, at 3:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Well, frankly, if I wanted to run windows, I'll use a windows machine. I didn't buy this Mac book pro to run windows. To me, that's no answer. Yes, I have seen this from Amazon before and the only work around is to use: www.amazon.com/access http://www.amazon.com/access Even then, I'm still not sure to what extent that works. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com mailto:lorice...@gmail.com wrote: you’d have to run windows or linux to use it on the Mac. I was running xp. when I used it very successfully. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve never gotten web visum to work on the Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com mailto:lorice...@gmail.com wrote: if you have access to firefox you can get webvisum. that often worked for me with standard capchas. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn 't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
how would this work? do you go to this site and then come back to where you were? On Jan 12, 2015, at 2:43 AM, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote: Try www.skipimput.com Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 803-8528 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com Twitter: MysticAccess Twitter: JediKent On 12-Jan-15 12:23 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: I was using Safari on my Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't t otally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
I’ve considered using linux. I bet it would run great on a Mac. the best thing woud be if Apple did a thing like webvisum or if firefox was accessible on the Mac. On Jan 12, 2015, at 3:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Well, frankly, if I wanted to run windows, I'll use a windows machine. I didn't buy this Mac book pro to run windows. To me, that's no answer. Yes, I have seen this from Amazon before and the only work around is to use: www.amazon.com/access http://www.amazon.com/access Even then, I'm still not sure to what extent that works. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com mailto:lorice...@gmail.com wrote: you’d have to run windows or linux to use it on the Mac. I was running xp. when I used it very successfully. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve never gotten web visum to work on the Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com mailto:lorice...@gmail.com wrote: if you have access to firefox you can get webvisum. that often worked for me with standard capchas. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Hi, Do they have an option for an audio captcha? Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Thought you guys would want to see the response I received from Amazon regarding the captchas on the gift card page. Hello, Amazon.com implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes No Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhy%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdyes_ht_1A=VZAXUBITMXTEFDBFGJJW3KECUKIAH=ZD697QAXRKRNDCWYJYU9HUDLJPWA No http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fhelp%2Fsurvey%3Fp%3DA25LD1M5ZG0U4C%26k%3Dhn%26ref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330_cscem_hmdno_ht_1A=FRQF5EPAQXXQHNKVLU9XKWRA2RGAH=QAOA43UIY5WSPJMYUFTPPHU0L34A Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn???t the issue. I???ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I???ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3GG4DES2VDURUR=29U7NMN7HZU71T=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Faccessibility-contactus%3Fref_%3Dpe_584750_33951330A=L2VILWOTCGCVWFJ3YUTTK1LWI7OAH=HMM2AWSSYZHZPISD7FSW9PV0K5KA We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
I’ve never gotten web visum to work on the Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote: if you have access to firefox you can get webvisum. that often worked for me with standard capchas. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
I was using Safari on my Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Well, the message you just replied to mentions using different web browsers so I would think that would be the website rather than the app. I haven't as yet even used the app so I don't know about this. Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
you’d have to run windows or linux to use it on the Mac. I was running xp. when I used it very successfully. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve never gotten web visum to work on the Mac. On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote: if you have access to firefox you can get webvisum. that often worked for me with standard capchas. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
if you have access to firefox you can get webvisum. that often worked for me with standard capchas. On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: If memory serves, you met with this using the app, is that correct? If so, are others checking the same way? Kare On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hello: I do a lot of Swagbucking and m Amazon cards are sent via email, so that isn’t the issue. I’ve redeemed Amazon cards for years without issues. Saturday was the first time I’ve ever seen this. I even tried with different web browsers. The people at Amazon said some parts of their site use captchas now. Go figure. On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: First of all, I have redeemed several gift cards from Amazon and there was no captcha. I thought maybe it had changed recently when I read this thread but I went to the website and I see no captcha. I approached this both from the main site and the access site even though I never actually use the access site. Both with Audible and Amazon, I much prefer to use the main site. So I'm a little puzzled as to how one person could see a captcha while another doesn't. You do have to sign in with your username and password and you do have to enter the claim code. You even can get around reading a claim code by having people email your gift cards instead of sending them by snail mail or giving them to you when the person involved uses email. It's not that i'm doubting your statement that there was a captcha; I personally simply don't see any request for one and never have in my own experience. Maybe they have started doing it for some accounts and others will follow though that doesn't totally make sense to me either. Secondly, some other form of security besides username and password in some instances is not, in my opinion, overkill. At least from what I know about passwords being stolen or hacked, i don't think it's overkill. We can argue about whether that other form should be captcha r not and we can argue about whether or not there should be an accessible alternative and what that alternative should be, but i don't really think we can argue that something in addition to username and password is overkill, at least in some situations. It is true that Amazon does require captchas in some instances; I rarely run into this on Amazon but I think when you set up an account and perhaps when you change your password you might have to enter a captcha, but I'm not going to change mine just to test this out. There may be some other instances. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention it is not convenient to call them each time you want to redeem a gift card! I mean, come on! You hae to log in to your account with your user name and password, a captcha is just over kill! On Jan 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com mailto:gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/ such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com http://amazon.com/. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus
Re: Response from Amazon regarding captchas
Hi, Thanks for this information Sarai. I'm sending it to an accessibility lawyer I know here in California to get her take on whether or not this is an acceptable solution and what further action can be taken. I for one am not comfortable with this solution as it would mean giving an amazon representative anything from your gift card number to your password which could give them access to saved credit card information. Gabe On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Amazon.com implements CAPTCHA on several features on Amazon.com such as password changes. Users are presented with a picture, and asked to copy the text string in the picture into a text entry field before continuing. Entering the characters displayed helps prevent automated programs from accessing features on Amazon.com. We do this to maintain the security of your account and personal information. If you're presented with a verification screen and you're unable to read or enter the word(s) displayed, please click or press enter on the following link. You can either enter your number and we'll give you a call, or you call us directly at one of the numbers provided on the page. www.amazon.com/accessibility-contactus We hope to see you again soon. Best regards, Bea D. Did I solve your problem? Yes No Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company. Thank you. Amazon.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.