Re: accessible thesaurus
Never thought about using the Window Chooser silly me ha. Thanks! Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 17/03/2014 21:26, Jim Gatteys wrote: If you are in the wrong widget you can do vo-f2 twice to get the widget bar. You should then find the dictionary widget if it is installed. Jim On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:12 PM, chris Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Same here any help with the dashboard would be greatly appreciated. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 17 Mar 2014, at 19:14, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this
Re: accessible thesaurus
well if it makes you feel better. It took me a while to find that way of navigation as well. Jim On Mar 18, 2014, at 3:27 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Never thought about using the Window Chooser silly me ha. Thanks! Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: accessible thesaurus
Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Re: accessible thesaurus
On the Mac, if the app uses the standard text edit widget you can select a word using option-shift-left or right to select the word to the left or right of where you are. Then you can pull up the contextual menu with control+option+shift+M an the first item will be Look Up word_you_selected. When you do that it will create a popup with snippets from the dictionary, thesaurus and wikipedia. If you action one of those you'll get the full dictionary app. Across the top of the dictionary app there are tabs for All, Dictionary, Thesaurus, Apple and Wikipedia. You can action one of those tabs which will update the HTML content below them with whatever you picked. This should be available in most any text editing area. I did have some trouble if I wasn't interacting with the text area before I selected the word. When that happened the contextual menu wouldn't pop up. CB On 3/17/14 3:14 PM, Christina C. wrote: Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: accessible thesaurus
Can we use this app offline? Obviously we can't use Apple or Wikipedia but can we use the integrated dictionary or thesaurus without an internet connection? If so this could be used as an offline reference tool should you not require such a connection. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 17 Mar 2014, at 20:22, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: On the Mac, if the app uses the standard text edit widget you can select a word using option-shift-left or right to select the word to the left or right of where you are. Then you can pull up the contextual menu with control+option+shift+M an the first item will be Look Up word_you_selected. When you do that it will create a popup with snippets from the dictionary, thesaurus and wikipedia. If you action one of those you'll get the full dictionary app. Across the top of the dictionary app there are tabs for All, Dictionary, Thesaurus, Apple and Wikipedia. You can action one of those tabs which will update the HTML content below them with whatever you picked. This should be available in most any text editing area. I did have some trouble if I wasn't interacting with the text area before I selected the word. When that happened the contextual menu wouldn't pop up. CB On 3/17/14 3:14 PM, Christina C. wrote: Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: accessible thesaurus
Same here any help with the dashboard would be greatly appreciated. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 17 Mar 2014, at 19:14, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Re: accessible thesaurus
or just choose dictionary from the applications or find it with spotlight. Jim On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:12 PM, chris Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Same here any help with the dashboard would be greatly appreciated. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 17 Mar 2014, at 19:14, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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If you are in the wrong widget you can do vo-f2 twice to get the widget bar. You should then find the dictionary widget if it is installed. Jim On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:12 PM, chris Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Same here any help with the dashboard would be greatly appreciated. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 17 Mar 2014, at 19:14, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I followed these steps but once I get into the widget place, I am stuck in calculator and I can't figure out how to get out of it and get to the dictionary/thesaurus. I'd really love access to a thesaurus. Thanks so much. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: accessible thesaurus
Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: accessible thesaurus
Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: accessible thesaurus
I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: accessible thesaurus
Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: accessible thesaurus
Ray I thought there used to be a keystroke defined to open dictionary but I don't see one. I guess you could certainly define one in keyboard under system preferences, and a lot of programs will let you right-click and get access that way also. I just used spotlight and typed in dictionary and it opened quite nicely. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: accessible thesaurus
More than one way to skin a cat ain't there? That's the beautiful thing about Macs. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Ray I thought there used to be a keystroke defined to open dictionary but I don't see one. I guess you could certainly define one in keyboard under system preferences, and a lot of programs will let you right-click and get access that way also. I just used spotlight and typed in dictionary and it opened quite nicely. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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that's exactly what I like about my mac. jg On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: More than one way to skin a cat ain't there? That's the beautiful thing about Macs. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Ray I thought there used to be a keystroke defined to open dictionary but I don't see one. I guess you could certainly define one in keyboard under system preferences, and a lot of programs will let you right-click and get access that way also. I just used spotlight and typed in dictionary and it opened quite nicely. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Quite right Jim. Here's how I did it. 1. Open the widgit bar menu from F12. 2. Select dictionary from this drop down. 3. Type in or paste in the word you wish. 4. Now, from the pop up menu just to the left of the text box, select either dictionary or Thesaurus. 5. Now, press return. That'll do it. Many thanks Jim. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is even a dashboard widget to get there. I love the fact that the dictionary is available all over the mac and with just a few keystrokes. Jim On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Why yes, in fact, it does. But, it's been so long since I've fooled with it, I forgot how to get access to it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the mac have one built in? Matter of fact doesn't the iPhone do as well? They're sure buried from within their respective operating systems but they are there. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 16/03/2014 21:11, Jean Parker wrote: Hello All: What recommendations do people have for an accessible thesaurus for either i phone or mac? I went to the app store and there are several available but I don't want to get one until I know it will be accessible. Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
