Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Scott Granados]

I would wager a big part of your slowness problem is you’re still using 
rotating disks.  These are 80 times slower than the latest SSD disks and will 
exhibit this kind of behavior.

Just a guess but that’s what this problem feels like.

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:36 AM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and E.T.,
> I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
> macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
> books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
> browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
> hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
> churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
> macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
> I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
> will be on one single drive.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
>> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
>> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>> 
>>I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
>> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>   I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying
>>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about
>>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple
>>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things
>>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>> 
>>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the
>>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> Yeah it will.
>>> 
>>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>>> 
>>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>>> itunes and things stop for days,
>>> 
>>> I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>>> truckload of data to sort out
>>> 
>>> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad
>>> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for
>>> 2 days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB
>>> wired network
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>>> 
>>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and
>>> the 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk
>>> access, moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s
>>> blazing fast.  The wireless is also quite good.
>>> 
>>> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
>>> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>>>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>>>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>>>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>>>> folder of media into iTunes?
>>>> Thanks Jeff
>>>> Sorry for the long post!
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> The following information

RE: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Simon Fogarty]

My MBA 2013 is usb 3 ports  and it still takes ages to sync my library and also 
via wired gigabit network as well was taking to long.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2017 9:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

Hi Jeff,

I stand corrected.  Sorry.  I should have checked more carefully before posting 
that.  My 2011 15" MBP only has the USB 2 ports, so I assumed the 2012 did too. 
 That's what I get for making assumptions.

My setup is similar to yours except I created a Fusion array with the 7200 RPM 
drive I moved over into the optical drive bay.  You may still have the issue of 
iTunes trying to copy over as the extra drive you've installed is separate from 
your Home Directory location.  It is possible to move your iTunes Library 
folder onto the other drive instead of it being in your Home Directory.  Using 
this configuration, you may experience better performance when importing large 
amounts of data into iTunes even though the media is on a 5400 RPM spinning 
drive.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:00, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
Its not a usb drive I replaced my dvd drive with a second hard drive.
Although its only 5400rpm. Also the 2012 mbp has usb 3.0 ports.
Thanks Jeff


On 1/17/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If things haven't changed since my last check, even when you have it 
> set to not copy to your iTunes Library, it will actually attempt the 
> copy when importing from an external drive.  If that drive happens to 
> be a USB drive, then it will probably be quite slow on that machine as 
> I believe that the ports on the 2012 MBP are USB 2 ports.  I get 
> around this issue on my home MacPro by placing the entire 3 TB iTunes 
> Library on a separate drive, thus not using up space in my system 
> drive.  This may be more challenging when working with the MBP as you 
> likely wish access to your iTunes Library without the need to carry 
> around an external drive.  There's probably something we could figure out, if 
> needed though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 09:36, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and E.T.,
> I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch 
> macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add 
> books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file 
> browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for 
> hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes 
> churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016 
> macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP 
> I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff 
> will be on one single drive.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>   Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder 
>> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the 
>> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>> 
>>   I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The 
>> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested 
>>> mine for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  
>>> The copying from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" 
>>> folder took about
>>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp 
>>> at all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things 
>>> like Apple Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library 
>>> may cause things to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>> 
>>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  
>>> Maybe into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to 
>>> me like the re-organization and database writing may be taxing your 
>>> system.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>&g

RE: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

When I try it I use the inport files or folders options from within the file 
menu of itunes,

 As my media is on a different drive from where itunes is running,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2017 4:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

Hi,

What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine for 
fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying from the 
Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about 10 minutes or 
so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at all.  FyI, iTunes was 
not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple Music or iTunes Match 
which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things to lag a little, but 
shouldn't be show stoppers.

Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe into 2 
or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the 
re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Geoff,

Yeah it will.

I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,

I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into itunes 
and things stop for days,

 I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a 
truckload of data to sort out 

I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad core 
i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for 2 days 
before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB wired network  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the 2.8 
I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access, moving 
data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.  The 
wireless is also quite good.

Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but for 
my configuration at least things are very very fast.

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book 
> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and 
> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having 
> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big 
> folder of media into iTunes?
> Thanks Jeff
> Sorry for the long post!
> 
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It may, but with the slow-downs that he's experiencing even with an internal 
drive, I don't believe a NAS would improve things.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 17, 2017, at 13:31, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
Couldn’t a nas be a sollution?
not sure if and how to do that but i guess it should work.
/A
> 17 jan. 2017 kl. 17:55 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If things haven't changed since my last check, even when you have it set to 
> not copy to your iTunes Library, it will actually attempt the copy when 
> importing from an external drive.  If that drive happens to be a USB drive, 
> then it will probably be quite slow on that machine as I believe that the 
> ports on the 2012 MBP are USB 2 ports.  I get around this issue on my home 
> MacPro by placing the entire 3 TB iTunes Library on a separate drive, thus 
> not using up space in my system drive.  This may be more challenging when 
> working with the MBP as you likely wish access to your iTunes Library without 
> the need to carry around an external drive.  There's probably something we 
> could figure out, if needed though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 09:36, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and E.T.,
> I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
> macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
> books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
> browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
> hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
> churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
> macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
> I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
> will be on one single drive.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>  Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
>> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
>> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>> 
>>  I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
>> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying
>>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about
>>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple
>>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things
>>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>> 
>>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the
>>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> Yeah it will.
>>> 
>>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>>> 
>>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>>> itunes and things stop for days,
>>> 
>>> I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>>> truckload of data to sort out
>>> 
>>> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad
>>> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for
>>> 2 days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB
>>> wired network
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>>> 
>>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and
>>> the

Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Couldn’t a nas be a sollution?
not sure if and how to do that but i guess it should work.
/A
> 17 jan. 2017 kl. 17:55 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If things haven't changed since my last check, even when you have it set to 
> not copy to your iTunes Library, it will actually attempt the copy when 
> importing from an external drive.  If that drive happens to be a USB drive, 
> then it will probably be quite slow on that machine as I believe that the 
> ports on the 2012 MBP are USB 2 ports.  I get around this issue on my home 
> MacPro by placing the entire 3 TB iTunes Library on a separate drive, thus 
> not using up space in my system drive.  This may be more challenging when 
> working with the MBP as you likely wish access to your iTunes Library without 
> the need to carry around an external drive.  There's probably something we 
> could figure out, if needed though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 09:36, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and E.T.,
> I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
> macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
> books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
> browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
> hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
> churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
> macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
> I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
> will be on one single drive.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>   Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
>> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
>> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>> 
>>   I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
>> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying
>>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about
>>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple
>>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things
>>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>> 
>>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the
>>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> Yeah it will.
>>> 
>>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>>> 
>>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>>> itunes and things stop for days,
>>> 
>>> I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>>> truckload of data to sort out
>>> 
>>> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad
>>> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for
>>> 2 days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB
>>> wired network
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>>> 
>>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and
>>> the 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk
>>> access, moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s
>>> blazing fast.  The wireless is also quite good.
>>> 
>>> Smaller disk

Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Jeff,

I stand corrected.  Sorry.  I should have checked more carefully before posting 
that.  My 2011 15" MBP only has the USB 2 ports, so I assumed the 2012 did too. 
 That's what I get for making assumptions.

My setup is similar to yours except I created a Fusion array with the 7200 RPM 
drive I moved over into the optical drive bay.  You may still have the issue of 
iTunes trying to copy over as the extra drive you've installed is separate from 
your Home Directory location.  It is possible to move your iTunes Library 
folder onto the other drive instead of it being in your Home Directory.  Using 
this configuration, you may experience better performance when importing large 
amounts of data into iTunes even though the media is on a 5400 RPM spinning 
drive.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:00, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
Its not a usb drive I replaced my dvd drive with a second hard drive.
Although its only 5400rpm. Also the 2012 mbp has usb 3.0 ports.
Thanks Jeff


On 1/17/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If things haven't changed since my last check, even when you have it set to
> not copy to your iTunes Library, it will actually attempt the copy when
> importing from an external drive.  If that drive happens to be a USB drive,
> then it will probably be quite slow on that machine as I believe that the
> ports on the 2012 MBP are USB 2 ports.  I get around this issue on my home
> MacPro by placing the entire 3 TB iTunes Library on a separate drive, thus
> not using up space in my system drive.  This may be more challenging when
> working with the MBP as you likely wish access to your iTunes Library
> without the need to carry around an external drive.  There's probably
> something we could figure out, if needed though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 09:36, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and E.T.,
> I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
> macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
> books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
> browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
> hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
> churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
> macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
> I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
> will be on one single drive.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>   Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
>> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
>> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>> 
>>   I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
>> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The
>>> copying
>>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took
>>> about
>>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like
>>> Apple
>>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause
>>> things
>>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>> 
>>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like
>>> the
>>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> Yeah it will.
>>> 
>>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>>> 
>>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>>> itunes and things stop for days,
>>> 
>>> I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>>> truckload of data to sort out
>>> 
>>> I'd l

Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[jeff `greene]

Hi Tim,
Its not a usb drive I replaced my dvd drive with a second hard drive.
Although its only 5400rpm. Also the 2012 mbp has usb 3.0 ports.
Thanks Jeff


On 1/17/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If things haven't changed since my last check, even when you have it set to
> not copy to your iTunes Library, it will actually attempt the copy when
> importing from an external drive.  If that drive happens to be a USB drive,
> then it will probably be quite slow on that machine as I believe that the
> ports on the 2012 MBP are USB 2 ports.  I get around this issue on my home
> MacPro by placing the entire 3 TB iTunes Library on a separate drive, thus
> not using up space in my system drive.  This may be more challenging when
> working with the MBP as you likely wish access to your iTunes Library
> without the need to carry around an external drive.  There's probably
> something we could figure out, if needed though.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 09:36, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim and E.T.,
> I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
> macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
> books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
> browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
> hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
> churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
> macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
> I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
> will be on one single drive.
> Jeff
>
>
> On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
>> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
>> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>>
>>I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
>> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>   I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The
>>> copying
>>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took
>>> about
>>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like
>>> Apple
>>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause
>>> things
>>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>>
>>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like
>>> the
>>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>
>>> Yeah it will.
>>>
>>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>>>
>>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>>> itunes and things stop for days,
>>>
>>> I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>>> truckload of data to sort out
>>>
>>> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6
>>> quad
>>> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped
>>> for
>>> 2 days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB
>>> wired network
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>>>
>>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and
>>> the 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk
>>> access, moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s
>>

Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If things haven't changed since my last check, even when you have it set to not 
copy to your iTunes Library, it will actually attempt the copy when importing 
from an external drive.  If that drive happens to be a USB drive, then it will 
probably be quite slow on that machine as I believe that the ports on the 2012 
MBP are USB 2 ports.  I get around this issue on my home MacPro by placing the 
entire 3 TB iTunes Library on a separate drive, thus not using up space in my 
system drive.  This may be more challenging when working with the MBP as you 
likely wish access to your iTunes Library without the need to carry around an 
external drive.  There's probably something we could figure out, if needed 
though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 17, 2017, at 09:36, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tim and E.T.,
I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
will be on one single drive.
Jeff


On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
> 
>I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying
>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about
>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple
>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things
>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>> 
>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the
>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> Yeah it will.
>> 
>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>> 
>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>> itunes and things stop for days,
>> 
>> I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>> truckload of data to sort out
>> 
>> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad
>> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for
>> 2 days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB
>> wired network
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>> 
>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and
>> the 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk
>> access, moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s
>> blazing fast.  The wireless is also quite good.
>> 
>> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
>> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>>> folder of media 

Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[jeff `greene]

Hi Tim and E.T.,
I have my audio books library on a second hdd in my 2012 15-inch
macbook pro. I have itunes preferences set to not copy. The way I add
books to itunes is to launch itunes, hit command+o and point the file
browser at my library. Itunes then goes into saying busy busy busy for
hours. I usually shut off VO and use my windows pc and let itunes
churn over night. My question came about because i heard the new 2016
macbook pro has faster cpu and faster ram. Maybe when I get a 2016 MBP
I'll try your automatically add to itunes option since all my stuff
will be on one single drive.
Jeff


On 1/17/17, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder
> projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the
> Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.
>
> I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The
> Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine
>> for fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying
>> from the Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about
>> 10 minutes or so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at
>> all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple
>> Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things
>> to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.
>>
>> Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe
>> into 2 or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the
>> re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> Yeah it will.
>>
>> I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>>
>> I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
>> itunes and things stop for days,
>>
>>  I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
>> truckload of data to sort out
>>
>> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad
>> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for
>> 2 days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB
>> wired network
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>>
>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and
>> the 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk
>> access, moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s
>> blazing fast.  The wireless is also quite good.
>>
>> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
>> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>>> folder of media into iTunes?
>>> Thanks Jeff
>>> Sorry for the long post!
>>>
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[E.T.]

   Just did this last night when I finished some Audiobook Builder 
projects, 10 gigs worth. Took about 5 minutes to copy to the 
Automatically Add folder then opened iTunes and it was done.


   I agree that breaking the 1 tb into smaller pieces is better. The 
Mac may need some tine outs to cool down.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/17/2017 7:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine for fun, by 
importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying from the Desktop into the 
"Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about 10 minutes or so, but other 
than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at all.  FyI, iTunes was not open at the time of 
the copy.  Things like Apple Music or iTunes Match which use the iCloud Music Library may 
cause things to lag a little, but shouldn't be show stoppers.

Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe into 2 
or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the 
re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Geoff,

Yeah it will.

I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,

I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into itunes 
and things stop for days,

 I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a 
truckload of data to sort out

I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad core 
i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for 2 days 
before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB wired network

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the 2.8 
I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access, moving 
data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.  The 
wireless is also quite good.

Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but for 
my configuration at least things are very very fast.


On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
folder of media into iTunes?
Thanks Jeff
Sorry for the long post!

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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

What process are you using to import the AudioBooks?  I just tested mine for 
fun, by importing 18 GB of AudioBooks, about 180 titles.  The copying from the 
Desktop into the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder took about 10 minutes or 
so, but other than that, iTunes did not cough or burp at all.  FyI, iTunes was 
not open at the time of the copy.  Things like Apple Music or iTunes Match 
which use the iCloud Music Library may cause things to lag a little, but 
shouldn't be show stoppers.

Simon, if possible, you may wish to divide that 1 TB up a little.  Maybe into 2 
or 300 GB segments and see what happens.  It sounds to me like the 
re-organization and database writing may be taxing your system.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 16, 2017, at 22:15, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Geoff,

Yeah it will.

I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,

I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into itunes 
and things stop for days,

 I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a 
truckload of data to sort out 

I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad core 
i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for 2 days 
before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB wired network  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the 2.8 
I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access, moving 
data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.  The 
wireless is also quite good.

Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but for 
my configuration at least things are very very fast.

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book 
> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and 
> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having 
> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big 
> folder of media into iTunes?
> Thanks Jeff
> Sorry for the long post!
> 
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[jeff `greene]

Hi Simon, thanks for the info!
Jeff


On 1/17/17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
>
>  Yeah it will.
>
>  I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,
>
>  I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into
> itunes and things stop for days,
>
>   I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a
> truckload of data to sort out
>
> I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad
> core i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for 2
> days before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB wired
> network
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro
>
> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the
> 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access,
> moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.
>  The wireless is also quite good.
>
> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
>
>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>> folder of media into iTunes?
>> Thanks Jeff
>> Sorry for the long post!
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RE: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Geoff,

 Yeah it will.

 I've got a terabyte of audio content, books and music,

 I've tried multiple times to import both my audio books and music into itunes 
and things stop for days,

  I can't see how a newer mac book will speed this up as it's still got a 
truckload of data to sort out 

I'd love to be wrong but I've just tried on a 2012 mac mini with 2.6 quad core 
i7 processor and 16 GB ram with 1tb fusion drive and that stopped for 2 days 
before I killed it due to the delay and I'm running it on a 1GB wired network  

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Subject: Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the 2.8 
I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access, moving 
data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.  The 
wireless is also quite good.

Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but for 
my configuration at least things are very very fast.

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book 
> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and 
> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having 
> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big 
> folder of media into iTunes?
> Thanks Jeff
> Sorry for the long post!
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Jonathan Cohn]

Jeff, 

Any chance you have Apple Music service or iTunes match These services try to 
do a bit more with sound files when they are imported. Still I wouldn't think 
it would stall your entire system.

I do notice with my corporate Macintosh, that it does not like me putting the 
system to sleep when I leave in the evening. I haven't completely figured it 
out, but if I use my Cisco VPN service and then try using the computer in a few 
hours where my WiFi connections have changed then the computer stalls for  20 
seconds on application switch or when I request a menu be activated. When this 
happens only a reboot resolves my "pizza wheel" / Application busy messages.

? 
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:07 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott, Thanks for the info! But, I was specifically asking about
> adding large media folders into iTunes which sends my 2012 mbp into
> busy busy busy for hours. I was also asking about the new 2016 MacBook
> pro's.
> Thanks Jeff
> 
> 
> On 1/16/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the
>> 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access,
>> moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.
>> The wireless is also quite good.
>> 
>> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
>> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>>> folder of media into iTunes?
>>> Thanks Jeff
>>> Sorry for the long post!
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Jeff,

How much RAM in your 2012 machine?  I have a 2011 MBP with a home-made Fusion 
drive and 16 GB of RAM and do not experience the issues you're mentioning.  I 
have upgraded a few of the 2012 models for colleagues and increased memory 
along with the SSD has made considerable differences in performance.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:07, jeff `greene  wrote:

Hi Scott, Thanks for the info! But, I was specifically asking about
adding large media folders into iTunes which sends my 2012 mbp into
busy busy busy for hours. I was also asking about the new 2016 MacBook
pro's.
Thanks Jeff


On 1/16/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the
> 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access,
> moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.
> The wireless is also quite good.
> 
> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>> folder of media into iTunes?
>> Thanks Jeff
>> Sorry for the long post!
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[jeff `greene]

Hi Scott, Thanks for the info! But, I was specifically asking about
adding large media folders into iTunes which sends my 2012 mbp into
busy busy busy for hours. I was also asking about the new 2016 MacBook
pro's.
Thanks Jeff


On 1/16/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the
> 2.8 I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access,
> moving data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.
>  The wireless is also quite good.
>
> Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but
> for my configuration at least things are very very fast.
>
>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>
>> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
>> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
>> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
>> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
>> folder of media into iTunes?
>> Thanks Jeff
>> Sorry for the long post!
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Re: question for anybody with a 2016 macbook pro

[Scott Granados]

Hi there, I have a Mid 2015 with the full Terabyte of storage (SSD) and the 2.8 
I7 quad core and it’s lightning fast.  Virtual machines, disk access, moving 
data around the network, everything you would want it’s blazing fast.  The 
wireless is also quite good.

Smaller disk drives may be slower depending on how these are designed but for 
my configuration at least things are very very fast.

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a 2012 mbp with an ssd. I also have a very large audio book
> library. When adding to iTunes iTunes goes into a caniption fit and
> says busy for hours. So here's my question, with the 2016 mbp's having
> faster cpu's and ssd's does this still happen when importing a big
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> Thanks Jeff
> Sorry for the long post!
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