Re: Text Editors for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Just type " texteditor" with no space and it should be the first result.

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On 4/30/2019 11:48 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:

  text editor


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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

>>>> On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
>>>>>>> On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
>>>>>>> these things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
>>>>>>> offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
>>>>>>> here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>>>>> Simon,
>>>>>>>>  I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which 
>>>>>>>> may do
>>>>>>>> it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in 
>>>>>>>> TextEdit
>>>>>>>> then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the 
>>>>>>>> Files
>>>>>>>> app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word 
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and 
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me 
>>>>>>>> (smiles)
>>>>>>>> and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice 
>>>>>>>> Dream
>>>>>>>> Reader I will have it nailed down.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Yuma,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good to know they have a mac version.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>  On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I 
>>>>>>>>> got which was 7.x
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> HI ET,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like 
>>>>>>>>>> that might work for you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Text Editors for Mac
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>   I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit 
>>>>>>>>

Re: Text Editors for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

:15 PM
To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac

Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
was 7.x





On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

HI ET,

Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?

These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
work for you.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Text Editors for Mac

   I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.

   TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which was 
last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work but 
again, that means extra work.

   So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that just 
might work.

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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

You may also be able to share an RTF file to pages. Then, when you open a RTF 
file, it'll go to Pages. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been following this thread, but until this  morning haven't had much 
> time to work on finding a solution.  But, I have found one.
> 
> ET, if you access the rtf file through Pages rather than files, it will open 
> in Pages rather than VDR. So do the following:
> 1. Open Pages.
> 2. Scroll through the list of files till you get to the document you want.
> 3. Double-tap to open.
> 
> You will be in your document in Pages.
> 
> I don't know why VDR takes over like it does, but at least there's a 
> work-around.  I hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan and all,
>> 
>> I experience this same behavior.  I actually took VDR off my iPhone, because 
>> I couldn't find any other way to stop RTF files from opening in that app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So for iCloud files my understanding is IOS will look at the Macintoshes 
>>> creator tag which indicates the application that created the file and if 
>>> that exists on iOS want to use that. Why, your iOS is defaulting to reader 
>>> for RTF, I do not know. But, if you start a file in pages on the Mac it 
>>> should open in pages on iOS. If you start a file in word on Mac, should 
>>> open in word on iOS.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:16 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sure. If RTF meets your needs, it's a good choice. It's stable and
>>>> widely supported.
>>>> RTF isn't appropriate for any kind of programming, including web content
>>>> authoring. So, it does depend on what you're needs are.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Happy to help, if you find you need basic ASCII text. It's actually not
>>>> that hard once you get a few basics in place.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>> Janina,
>>>>> I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to use
>>>>> the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I want to
>>>>> keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
>>>>>> reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
>>>>>> problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
>>>>>> On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
>>>>>> these things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
>>>>>> offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
>>>>>> here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>>>> Simon,
>>>>>>> I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and have
>>>>>>> determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which 
>>>>>>> may do
>>>>>>> it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in 
>>>>>>> TextEdit
>>>>>>> then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
>>>>>>

Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I've been following this thread, but until this  morning haven't had much time 
to work on finding a solution.  But, I have found one.

ET, if you access the rtf file through Pages rather than files, it will open in 
Pages rather than VDR. So do the following:
1. Open Pages.
2. Scroll through the list of files till you get to the document you want.
3. Double-tap to open.

You will be in your document in Pages.

I don't know why VDR takes over like it does, but at least there's a 
work-around.  I hope this helps.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan and all,
> 
> I experience this same behavior.  I actually took VDR off my iPhone, because 
> I couldn't find any other way to stop RTF files from opening in that app.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> So for iCloud files my understanding is IOS will look at the Macintoshes 
>> creator tag which indicates the application that created the file and if 
>> that exists on iOS want to use that. Why, your iOS is defaulting to reader 
>> for RTF, I do not know. But, if you start a file in pages on the Mac it 
>> should open in pages on iOS. If you start a file in word on Mac, should open 
>> in word on iOS.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:16 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sure. If RTF meets your needs, it's a good choice. It's stable and
>>> widely supported.
>>> RTF isn't appropriate for any kind of programming, including web content
>>> authoring. So, it does depend on what you're needs are.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Happy to help, if you find you need basic ASCII text. It's actually not
>>> that hard once you get a few basics in place.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Janina,
>>>> I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to use
>>>> the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I want to
>>>> keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
>>>>> reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
>>>>> problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
>>>>> On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
>>>>> these things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
>>>>> offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
>>>>> here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> hth
>>>>> 
>>>>> Janina
>>>>> 
>>>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>>> Simon,
>>>>>>  I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and have
>>>>>> determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which 
>>>>>> may do
>>>>>> it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in 
>>>>>> TextEdit
>>>>>> then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the Files
>>>>>> app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and see
>>>>>> what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me (smiles)
>>>>>> and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but

Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Jonathan and all,

I experience this same behavior.  I actually took VDR off my iPhone, because I 
couldn't find any other way to stop RTF files from opening in that app.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> So for iCloud files my understanding is IOS will look at the Macintoshes 
> creator tag which indicates the application that created the file and if that 
> exists on iOS want to use that. Why, your iOS is defaulting to reader for 
> RTF, I do not know. But, if you start a file in pages on the Mac it should 
> open in pages on iOS. If you start a file in word on Mac, should open in word 
> on iOS.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:16 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sure. If RTF meets your needs, it's a good choice. It's stable and
>> widely supported.
>> RTF isn't appropriate for any kind of programming, including web content
>> authoring. So, it does depend on what you're needs are.
>> 
>> 
>> Happy to help, if you find you need basic ASCII text. It's actually not
>> that hard once you get a few basics in place.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Janina,
>>>  I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to use
>>> the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I want to
>>> keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>>> On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
>>>> reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
>>>> problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:
>>>> 
>>>> On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J
>>>> 
>>>> On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
>>>> 
>>>> On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
>>>> 
>>>> There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
>>>> On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
>>>> these things.
>>>> 
>>>> There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
>>>> offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
>>>> here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
>>>> 
>>>> hth
>>>> 
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>> Simon,
>>>>>   I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and have
>>>>> determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which may 
>>>>> do
>>>>> it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in TextEdit
>>>>> then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the Files
>>>>> app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word 
>>>>> which
>>>>> I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and see
>>>>> what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me (smiles)
>>>>> and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice Dream
>>>>> Reader I will have it nailed down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks Yuma,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good to know they have a mac version.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
>>>>>> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try mac vim. it 

Re: Text Editors for Mac

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

So for iCloud files my understanding is IOS will look at the Macintoshes 
creator tag which indicates the application that created the file and if that 
exists on iOS want to use that. Why, your iOS is defaulting to reader for RTF, 
I do not know. But, if you start a file in pages on the Mac it should open in 
pages on iOS. If you start a file in word on Mac, should open in word on iOS.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:16 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sure. If RTF meets your needs, it's a good choice. It's stable and
> widely supported.
> RTF isn't appropriate for any kind of programming, including web content
> authoring. So, it does depend on what you're needs are.
> 
> 
> Happy to help, if you find you need basic ASCII text. It's actually not
> that hard once you get a few basics in place.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Janina,
>>   I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to use
>> the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I want to
>> keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
>>> reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
>>> problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:
>>> 
>>> On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J
>>> 
>>> On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
>>> 
>>> On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
>>> 
>>> There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
>>> On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
>>> these things.
>>> 
>>> There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
>>> offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
>>> here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Simon,
>>>>I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and have
>>>> determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which may 
>>>> do
>>>> it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in TextEdit
>>>> then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
>>>> 
>>>>The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the Files
>>>> app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word 
>>>> which
>>>> I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and see
>>>> what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me (smiles)
>>>> and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.
>>>> 
>>>>Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice Dream
>>>> Reader I will have it nailed down.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Yuma,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good to know they have a mac version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>>> On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
>>>>> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got 
>>>>> which was 7.x
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI ET,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that 
>>>>>> might work for you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Or

Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Sure. If RTF meets your needs, it's a good choice. It's stable and
widely supported.
RTF isn't appropriate for any kind of programming, including web content
authoring. So, it does depend on what you're needs are.


Happy to help, if you find you need basic ASCII text. It's actually not
that hard once you get a few basics in place.

Best,

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Janina,
>I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to use
> the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I want to
> keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
> > reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
> > problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:
> > 
> > On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J
> > 
> > On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
> > 
> > On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
> > 
> > There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
> > On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
> > these things.
> > 
> > There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
> > offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
> > here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > > Simon,
> > > I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and 
> > > have
> > > determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which may 
> > > do
> > > it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in TextEdit
> > > then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
> > > 
> > > The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the 
> > > Files
> > > app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word 
> > > which
> > > I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and see
> > > what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me (smiles)
> > > and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.
> > > 
> > > Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice 
> > > Dream
> > > Reader I will have it nailed down.
> > > 
> > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > Many believe that we have been visited
> > > in the past. What if it were true?
> > > 
> > > On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> > > > Thanks Yuma,
> > > > 
> > > > Good to know they have a mac version.
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
> > > > On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
> > > > To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
> > > > Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
> > > > 
> > > > Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got 
> > > > which was 7.x
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > HI ET,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
> > > > > 
> > > > > These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like 
> > > > > that might work for you.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
> > > > > To: MacVisionaries 
> > > > > Subject: Text Editors for Mac
> > > > > 
> > > > >  I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or 
> > > > > edit text files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. 
> > > > > I do not want to take extra steps to work around this such as using 
> >

Re: Text Editors for Mac

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

Does the file need to be a text file - I use pages and simply export the file 
to word if I need to share with a word user either PC or Mac and it seems to 
work fine and the formatting stays - I might have missed what it is you want to 
do but thought I would share just in case it helps  

> On 27 Apr 2019, at 21:00, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
> files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
> 
>   TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
> want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which 
> was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work 
> but again, that means extra work.
> 
>   So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
> just might work.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

I’m partial to Emacs, with Emacspeak of course, and Org-mode. Just write your 
file, 
** Make headings

** make a list like this:
- Unordered list item
1. Ordered item
- Italics is made like /this/.
- Bold is made like *this*.

You can also just write Latex in it, and it’ll come out exported as Latex would 
be in that format.
After you’re done, you can just export the file as HTML, ODT, Plain Text, or 
Markdown. Then, if you need to, you can use Pandoc to convert the ODT file to 
Word format or RTF, I assume Pandoc should support RTF.

Using Org-mode, or even Markdown, allows you to really control the formatting 
of a document, and Emacspeak helps by changing pitch and entonation to call 
attention to formatting, along with the symbols you use for denoting formatting.

> On Apr 28, 2019, at 10:33 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sandi,
>   Yes TextEdit is fine until you send a sighted Windows user a text document 
> then you will hear about it. (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/28/2019 3:33 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse wrote:
>> Hi. maybe i am missing something, but textedit works gorgeously.
>> I use windows for one thing only. Scanning books. And reading them,
>> and replacing weird letters, signs with textedit after end editing
>> with, textedit works right outta the box.
>> Got a couple of chromebooks so the workflow goes like this , scan
>> books in windows, save them as, txt files. After end ocr. Remove
>> unwanted letters with textedit. I run win on the mini in a vm. After
>> that convert to html with textutil for mac.
>> Works.
>> It is true though… line breaks have sometimes in the past been a major
>> problem for linux, too windows, and back. There is a easy way to fix
>> that though, replace them.
>> And yes it is extra work,
>> Also be aware there are things  windows screen readers will not read,
>> that your mac , linux screen reader will read on its own so you can
>> easily correct it …
>> The sign i have too remove from books right now … are called ...dont
>> signs, or something like that .
>> Hope this helps.
>> /sandie
>> On 4/28/19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>> Pretty much any non graphical app from the Linux/Unix world can be used
>>> on a Mac, because the Mac runs a variant of BSD Unix as its shell. Get
>>> yourself an install of homebrew and brew up whatever app you might want
>>> to run in the terminal:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/Homebrew
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon Fogarty writes:
>>>> Thanks Yuma,
>>>> 
>>>> Good to know they have a mac version.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>>>> Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
>>>> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
>>>> 
>>>> Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got
>>>> which was 7.x
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> HI ET,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
>>>>> 
>>>>> These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that
>>>>> might work for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
>>>>> To: MacVisionaries 
>>>>> Subject: Text Editors for Mac
>>>>> 
>>>>>I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit
>>>>> text files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
>>>>> 
>>>>>TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do
>>>>> not want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak
>>>>> which was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages
>>>>> that may work but again, that means extra work.
>>>>> 
>>>>>So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac
>>>>> that just might work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>ancient.ali

Re: Text Editors for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Sandi,
   Yes TextEdit is fine until you send a sighted Windows user a text 
document then you will hear about it. (smiles)


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/28/2019 3:33 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse wrote:

Hi. maybe i am missing something, but textedit works gorgeously.
I use windows for one thing only. Scanning books. And reading them,
and replacing weird letters, signs with textedit after end editing
with, textedit works right outta the box.
Got a couple of chromebooks so the workflow goes like this , scan
books in windows, save them as, txt files. After end ocr. Remove
unwanted letters with textedit. I run win on the mini in a vm. After
that convert to html with textutil for mac.
Works.
It is true though… line breaks have sometimes in the past been a major
problem for linux, too windows, and back. There is a easy way to fix
that though, replace them.
And yes it is extra work,
Also be aware there are things  windows screen readers will not read,
that your mac , linux screen reader will read on its own so you can
easily correct it …
The sign i have too remove from books right now … are called ...dont
signs, or something like that .
Hope this helps.

/sandie

On 4/28/19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

Pretty much any non graphical app from the Linux/Unix world can be used
on a Mac, because the Mac runs a variant of BSD Unix as its shell. Get
yourself an install of homebrew and brew up whatever app you might want
to run in the terminal:

https://github.com/Homebrew

hth

Janina


Simon Fogarty writes:

Thanks Yuma,

Good to know they have a mac version.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac

Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got
which was 7.x





On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

HI ET,

Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?

These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that
might work for you.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Text Editors for Mac

I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit
text files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.

TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do
not want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak
which was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages
that may work but again, that means extra work.

So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac
that just might work.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Janina,
   I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to 
use the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I 
want to keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.


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On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:

On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J

On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M

On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.

There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
these things.

There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.

hth

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:

Simon,
I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and have
determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which may do
it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in TextEdit
then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.

The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the Files
app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word which
I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and see
what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me (smiles)
and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.

Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice Dream
Reader I will have it nailed down.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Thanks Yuma,

Good to know they have a mac version.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac

Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
was 7.x





On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

HI ET,

Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?

These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
work for you.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Text Editors for Mac

 I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.

 TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which was 
last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work but 
again, that means extra work.

 So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
just might work.

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Re: Text Editors for Mac

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Hi. maybe i am missing something, but textedit works gorgeously.
I use windows for one thing only. Scanning books. And reading them,
and replacing weird letters, signs with textedit after end editing
with, textedit works right outta the box.
Got a couple of chromebooks so the workflow goes like this , scan
books in windows, save them as, txt files. After end ocr. Remove
unwanted letters with textedit. I run win on the mini in a vm. After
that convert to html with textutil for mac.
Works.
It is true though… line breaks have sometimes in the past been a major
problem for linux, too windows, and back. There is a easy way to fix
that though, replace them.
And yes it is extra work,
Also be aware there are things  windows screen readers will not read,
that your mac , linux screen reader will read on its own so you can
easily correct it …
The sign i have too remove from books right now … are called ...dont
signs, or something like that .
Hope this helps.

/sandie

On 4/28/19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Pretty much any non graphical app from the Linux/Unix world can be used
> on a Mac, because the Mac runs a variant of BSD Unix as its shell. Get
> yourself an install of homebrew and brew up whatever app you might want
> to run in the terminal:
>
> https://github.com/Homebrew
>
> hth
>
> Janina
>
>
> Simon Fogarty writes:
>> Thanks Yuma,
>>
>> Good to know they have a mac version.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
>> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
>> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
>>
>> Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got
>> which was 7.x
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> >
>> > HI ET,
>> >
>> > Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
>> >
>> > These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that
>> > might work for you.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
>> > To: MacVisionaries 
>> > Subject: Text Editors for Mac
>> >
>> >I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit
>> > text files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
>> >
>> >TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do
>> > not want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak
>> > which was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages
>> > that may work but again, that means extra work.
>> >
>> >So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac
>> > that just might work.
>> >
>> > From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> >ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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>> > true?
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:

On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J

On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M

On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.

There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
these things.

There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.

hth

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Simon,
>I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and have
> determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which may do
> it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in TextEdit
> then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came through fine.
> 
>The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the Files
> app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS Word which
> I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS Word and see
> what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy for me (smiles)
> and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.
> 
>Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice Dream
> Reader I will have it nailed down.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> > Thanks Yuma,
> > 
> > Good to know they have a mac version.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> > Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
> > To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
> > Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
> > 
> > Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got 
> > which was 7.x
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > > 
> > > HI ET,
> > > 
> > > Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
> > > 
> > > These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that 
> > > might work for you.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
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> > > Subject: Text Editors for Mac
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> > > 
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> > > which was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that 
> > > may work but again, that means extra work.
> > > 
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> > > that just might work.
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Pretty much any non graphical app from the Linux/Unix world can be used
on a Mac, because the Mac runs a variant of BSD Unix as its shell. Get
yourself an install of homebrew and brew up whatever app you might want
to run in the terminal:

https://github.com/Homebrew

hth

Janina


Simon Fogarty writes:
> Thanks Yuma,
> 
> Good to know they have a mac version.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
> 
> Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
> was 7.x 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > 
> > HI ET,
> > 
> > Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
> > 
> > These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that 
> > might work for you.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
> > To: MacVisionaries 
> > Subject: Text Editors for Mac
> > 
> >I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
> > files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
> > 
> >TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
> > want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which 
> > was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may 
> > work but again, that means extra work.
> > 
> >So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
> > just might work.
> > 
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Simon,
   I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and 
have determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf 
which may do it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the 
document in TextEdit then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it came 
through fine.


   The only hitch is on the iPhone when I access the document via the 
Files app, Voice Dream Reader launches. I don't want that. I do have MS 
Word which I ma need to activate, and Pages as well. I will activate MS 
Word and see what happens. Using iCloud Drive I wish to make life easy 
for me (smiles) and be able to read and edit as needed on any platform.


   Hmm, Mac Vim. Will look at that too but if I can work around Voice 
Dream Reader I will have it nailed down.


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On 4/27/2019 9:15 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Thanks Yuma,

Good to know they have a mac version.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac

Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
was 7.x





On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

HI ET,

Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?

These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
work for you.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Text Editors for Mac

I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.

TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which was 
last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work but 
again, that means extra work.

So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
just might work.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

[Oriol Gómez Sentís]

I use code runner. if you do programming, its your best option. It has a built 
in console which runs your code or markdown.

Sent from iPhone.

> El 28 abr 2019, a las 6:15, Simon Fogarty  escribió:
> 
> Thanks Yuma,
> 
> Good to know they have a mac version.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
> To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
> Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac
> 
> Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
> was 7.x 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> HI ET,
>> 
>> Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
>> 
>> These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
>> work for you.
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
>> To: MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Text Editors for Mac
>> 
>>   I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
>> files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
>> 
>>   TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
>> want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which 
>> was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work 
>> but again, that means extra work.
>> 
>>   So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
>> just might work.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Text Editors for Mac

[Yuma Decaux]

Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
was 7.x 




> On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> HI ET,
> 
> Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
> 
> These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
> work for you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Text Editors for Mac
> 
>I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
> files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
> 
>TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
> want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which 
> was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work 
> but again, that means extra work.
> 
>So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
> just might work.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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RE: Text Editors for Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Yuma,

Good to know they have a mac version.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 4:15 PM
To: da...@unwiredmind.com 
Subject: Re: Text Editors for Mac

Try mac vim. it works pretty well. At least on the latest version I got which 
was 7.x 




> On 28 Apr 2019, at 2:00 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> HI ET,
> 
> Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?
> 
> These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
> work for you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Text Editors for Mac
> 
>I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
> files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.
> 
>TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
> want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which 
> was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work 
> but again, that means extra work.
> 
>So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
> just might work.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> true?
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RE: Text Editors for Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

HI ET,

Is there a version of VIM or VI that would work on the mac?

These are linux text editors I'm just wondering if something like that might 
work for you.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Text Editors for Mac

I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit text 
files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.

TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do not 
want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak which was 
last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages that may work but 
again, that means extra work.

So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac that 
just might work.

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Text Editors for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I am taking a different path to see if I can easily create or edit 
text files on the Mac that will read correctly in Windows.


   TwctEdit does not insert the CR and LF codes needed by Windows. I do 
not want to take extra steps to work around this such as using LineBreak 
which was last updated in 2008. If I can save files as .txt in Pages 
that may work but again, that means extra work.


   So I am looking for accessible (and free) text editors for the Mac 
that just might work.


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RE: Current text editors for Mac OS?

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Interesting – thanks. I’ve used and definitely like Emacspeak under Linux. 
Running Emacs from a terminal with Emacspeak and with BRLTTY controlling the 
braille display is undoubtedly the best text editing experience that I’ve 
encountered on any platform.

 

BRLTTY for Mac used to be (presumably still is) limited in that it requires a 
patched version of GNU Screen in order to run – not to mention complicated to 
install and may not work these days.

 

From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 12:50 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Current text editors for Mac OS?

 

Well, there’s always Emacspeak, for Emacs. It works with the GUI version of 
Emacs even, so you just have to turn VoiceOver off and just use it. Or you can 
use TDSR, a terminal screen reader for the Mac that is miles ahead of VoiceOver.





On Mar 11, 2019, at 7:30 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

When I last looked, TextMate was the most accessible text editor for the Mac. 
However, it hasn’t been updated for quite a while, and I’m wondering whether 
there is anything else that should be considered nowadays.

 

My needs are somewhat diverse – editing of LaTeX, Markdown, HTML, occasionally 
JavaScript, Python, or other programming languages. Integration with Git 
revision control is desirable.

 

Emacs or Vim in a terminal would be fine, were it not for the awkwardness of 
using the Mac OS terminal application with Voiceover.

 

Updates welcome.

 

 

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Re: Current text editors for Mac OS?

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Well, there’s always Emacspeak, for Emacs. It works with the GUI version of 
Emacs even, so you just have to turn VoiceOver off and just use it. Or you can 
use TDSR, a terminal screen reader for the Mac that is miles ahead of VoiceOver.

> On Mar 11, 2019, at 7:30 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> When I last looked, TextMate was the most accessible text editor for the Mac. 
> However, it hasn’t been updated for quite a while, and I’m wondering whether 
> there is anything else that should be considered nowadays.
>  
> My needs are somewhat diverse – editing of LaTeX, Markdown, HTML, 
> occasionally JavaScript, Python, or other programming languages. Integration 
> with Git revision control is desirable.
>  
> Emacs or Vim in a terminal would be fine, were it not for the awkwardness of 
> using the Mac OS terminal application with Voiceover.
>  
> Updates welcome.
>  
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Current text editors for Mac OS?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

When I last looked, TextMate was the most accessible text editor for the Mac. 
However, it hasn’t been updated for quite a while, and I’m wondering whether 
there is anything else that should be considered nowadays.

 

My needs are somewhat diverse – editing of LaTeX, Markdown, HTML, occasionally 
JavaScript, Python, or other programming languages. Integration with Git 
revision control is desirable.

 

Emacs or Vim in a terminal would be fine, were it not for the awkwardness of 
using the Mac OS terminal application with Voiceover.

 

Updates welcome.

 

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