how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread John J Herzog
Hi list, 
I have a question about the language rotor in voiceover. I want to have the 
option to choose between the US english, australian english, and UK english 
voices. However, right now it is only showing the US and australian voices. How 
do I add the UK english one to the mix as well? I tried going to accessibility 
and voiceover, and selected the language rotor button. I then dragged the 
british english voice just below the australian one which is first. Still it 
does not appear as an option. What am I doing wrong? 

Thanks,
John 

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Re: how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread Esther

Hi John,

There should have been an option for British English on the language  
rotor.  Did you not find it?  If I select U.S. English, Australian  
English, and British English all these options will appear on my  
language rotor, in addition to my default language,with or without the  
optional re-ordering.  The reason that having the language rotor for  
voice selection is better than choosing a region is that you won't  
change the date, time, and telephone number entry formats, or your  
default currency.  In some apps, you end up using your region setting  
-- such as Safari, which may use Australia for your country search  
if you select that voice.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

John J Herzog wrote:


Hi list,
I have a question about the language rotor in voiceover. I want to  
have the option to choose between the US english, australian  
english, and UK english voices. However, right now it is only  
showing the US and australian voices. How do I add the UK english  
one to the mix as well? I tried going to accessibility and  
voiceover, and selected the language rotor button. I then dragged  
the british english voice just below the australian one which is  
first. Still it does not appear as an option. What am I doing wrong?


Thanks,
John



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Re: how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Esther,
I'm feeling fairly silly about now. I've found the language rotor with its many 
languages and the reorder buttons. In a note to John, you mentioned selecting 
certain languages to be in the rotor. Here, all the languages are there. that 
is in settings, general, accessibility, voice over. But I didn't see something 
to turn languages on or off or to turn the whole thing on or off so that 
language selection shows up when you do the rotor gesture. I still get 
characters and words or, if on a web page, I get the usual items, but no 
languages. Nor do I understand how to select just those I want. this must e a 
simple thing that I'm overlooking.

mary

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Re: how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread Esther

Hi Mary,

If you've found the language rotor under Settings  General   
Accessibility  VoiceOver, at the end of the page, just double tap  
Language Rotor.  You'll be on a page where the language options are  
listed alphabetically.  Just double tap to make your selection.  The  
first entry will be Australian English, and if you flick right there  
will be a reorder button. You can swipe up a couple of times to  
reach U.S. English.  Greek is just below that, followed by Russian,  
which is announced with the Russian voice.  Just double tap any  
entries you want to add so you'll hear Selected.  Exit by double  
tapping the VoiceOver, back button at the top left.  Then, when  
you're in a text field or on a web page, use the rotor until you hear  
Language, and swipe up or down till you reach the language you want.


If you have a bluetooth keyboard, there are also now hardware keyboard  
settings under Settings  General  Keyboard  International Keyboards  
once you double tap the language you've selected. (The page will have  
both Software and Hardware Keyboard layout options.)


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 21, 2010, at 14:15, Mary Otten wrote:


Hi Esther,
I'm feeling fairly silly about now. I've found the language rotor  
with its many languages and the reorder buttons. In a note to John,  
you mentioned selecting certain languages to be in the rotor. Here,  
all the languages are there. that is in settings, general,  
accessibility, voice over. But I didn't see something to turn  
languages on or off or to turn the whole thing on or off so that  
language selection shows up when you do the rotor gesture. I still  
get characters and words or, if on a web page, I get the usual  
items, but no languages. Nor do I understand how to select just  
those I want. this must e a simple thing that I'm overlooking.


mary



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Re: how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Esther,
Well, I do feel stupid. I saw all the languages and the reorder buttons, and 
for some reason, it never occurred to me that I had to double tap to select the 
language, so convinced was I that the buttons held the key to the problem, as 
in, double tap and hold and them maybe something could be deleted. the Russian 
voice is pretty decent, better than I thought it would be, as is the Mexico 
Spanish voice. Pretty darned cool! I wonder if Ibooks will have foreign 
language texts eventually; I suspect I'll wait a long time for anything in 
Russian, though. smile

mary

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Re: how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread Esther

Hi Mary,

Try this web site for Russian language texts:
http://ilibrary.ru/text/976/p.1/index.html
I've pointed you to Chekhov's short story, Lady with a Lapdog.  I  
haven't tried searching, but I imagine it would be possible to find  
Russian texts -- just not current titles, yet!.  It will be something  
to practice using your language rotor on.


Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 21, 2010, at 14:42, Mary Otten wrote:


Hi Esther,
Well, I do feel stupid. I saw all the languages and the reorder  
buttons, and for some reason, it never occurred to me that I had to  
double tap to select the language, so convinced was I that the  
buttons held the key to the problem, as in, double tap and hold and  
them maybe something could be deleted. the Russian voice is pretty  
decent, better than I thought it would be, as is the Mexico Spanish  
voice. Pretty darned cool! I wonder if Ibooks will have foreign  
language texts eventually; I suspect I'll wait a long time for  
anything in Russian, though. smile


mary



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Re: how to add voices to language rotor.

2010-06-21 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks a lot for the russian language site, Esther. I may get brave and try the 
Russian keyboard to see if I have any better luck finding sites than I do 
trying to guess at transliterations and wondering if they get properly 
transliterated back into the original language. Haven't typed on a real russian 
layout keyboard in decades, so it ought to be interesting.

Mary 

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