Re: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

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   Anders, what version of Firefox are you now running?

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On 8/6/2023 5:06 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work 
properly together.
It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow 
on just that page. 
https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html 

It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to 
view in Firefox.

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Re: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, I  was a bit surprised since ff work so well for me elsewhere but this 
site things just did not work.
Bless.
/A

> 6 aug. 2023 kl. 14:48 skrev josephlho...@gmail.com:
> 
> Firefox is a different architecture in that what is powering Safari and 
> Firefox is completely different. It’s not surprising to me that things would 
> be a bit different from time to time. Now if you were using two Chromium 
> browsers and had different experiences then I would be a bit more perplexed. 
>  
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> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 8:07 AM
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> Subject: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.
>  
> Hi!
> I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work properly 
> together.
> It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow on 
> just that page. 
> https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html
> It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to view 
> in Firefox.
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RE: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

[josephlhodge]

Firefox is a different architecture in that what is powering Safari and Firefox 
is completely different. It’s not surprising to me that things would be a bit 
different from time to time. Now if you were using two Chromium browsers and 
had different experiences then I would be a bit more perplexed. 

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 8:07 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

 

Hi!

I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work properly 
together.

It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow on 
just that page. 
https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html

It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to view in 
Firefox.

/A

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Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work properly 
together.
It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow on 
just that page. 
https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html
It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to view in 
Firefox.
/A

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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes and it worked just fine as you suggested.
Thanks for your help.
/A

> 17 dec. 2020 kl. 00:35 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> I have been using a Mac since OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion), and in my 
> experience, auto-QuickNav on/off has only existed in iOS.
> On the Mac, if you want to type with QuickNav on, you need to make sure that 
> Quick Key Navigation is turned off using VO + Q.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2020, at 17:22, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> QuickNav will auto toggle off (just like in IOS) when you have the VO Cursor 
> inside a text input field on the web. My memory is that five years ago, when 
> composing e-mails (probably High Sierra ) the auto-toggling of QuickNav 
> happened in TextEdit and Mail also. So, perhaps it is a bug, but it has been 
> so long since this behaved the way I like, that I doubt it will ever change 
> back. 
> This is one reason, I prefer using a full keyboard with a numeric keypad for 
> Navigating. I can have single key storkes that do most of my navigation 
> without remembering if QuickNav mode is on or off.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2020, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
>> Really strange.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>> 
>>> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
>>> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
 the ability to type in textfields.
 Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
 Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Brad Snyder]

I have been using a Mac since OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion), and in my experience, 
auto-QuickNav on/off has only existed in iOS.
On the Mac, if you want to type with QuickNav on, you need to make sure that 
Quick Key Navigation is turned off using VO + Q.

- Brad -


On Dec 16, 2020, at 17:22, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

QuickNav will auto toggle off (just like in IOS) when you have the VO Cursor 
inside a text input field on the web. My memory is that five years ago, when 
composing e-mails (probably High Sierra ) the auto-toggling of QuickNav 
happened in TextEdit and Mail also. So, perhaps it is a bug, but it has been so 
long since this behaved the way I like, that I doubt it will ever change back. 
This is one reason, I prefer using a full keyboard with a numeric keypad for 
Navigating. I can have single key storkes that do most of my navigation without 
remembering if QuickNav mode is on or off.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 16, 2020, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
> Really strange.
> /A
> 
>> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
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>> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
>> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
>>> the ability to type in textfields.
>>> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>> /A
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

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QuickNav will auto toggle off (just like in IOS) when you have the VO Cursor 
inside a text input field on the web. My memory is that five years ago, when 
composing e-mails (probably High Sierra ) the auto-toggling of QuickNav 
happened in TextEdit and Mail also. So, perhaps it is a bug, but it has been so 
long since this behaved the way I like, that I doubt it will ever change back. 
This is one reason, I prefer using a full keyboard with a numeric keypad for 
Navigating. I can have single key storkes that do most of my navigation without 
remembering if QuickNav mode is on or off.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 16, 2020, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
> Really strange.
> /A
> 
>> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
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>> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
>> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
>>> the ability to type in textfields.
>>> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>> /A
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
Really strange.
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> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Andrew
>> On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
>> the ability to type in textfields.
>> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> /A
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Brad Snyder]

Try using VO + Q, to toggle Quick Key navigation off.

- Brad -


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In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text boxes. 
 I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.

Andrew
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> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

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In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text boxes. 
 I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.

Andrew
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> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
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Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop the 
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Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

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Sorry, I just took a stab in the dark hoping it would help. I just listen to 
the same song on my phone and it sounded fine.
Hoe you manage to fix it.

> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
> stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
> wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the 
> lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to 
> listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels 
> for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my 
> right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing 
> as far as fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for 
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Jessica Moss]

I didn’t think it was an EQ issue either, but decided to try it just to see if 
it changed anything, and unfortunately, that did nothing.  I didn’t notice this 
actually until iOS 13 came out, and it would just channel them and the function 
that used to be available, which was to tilt the phone, then hold it as if I 
were going to answer a call, and it would bring those channels to the center, 
but I had to continue to hold it straight and not lay it flat, or they would 
separate again.  However, with the onset of iOS 13, that feature seems to have 
disappeared.

> On May 13, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I’ve done nothing special with the EQ setting in the Music app on my iPhone X 
> running iOS 13.4.1, and I just played the same track (Aquarius by the 5th 
> Dimension) and everything sounded good through both the iPhone’s speakers and 
> my AirPods Pro.
> 
> - Brad -
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> On May 13, 2020, at 20:06, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
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> Hi Jessica,
> Can’t say I’ve noticed this. But did you ever use the QE function on the 
> music app? If you go in to your settings on your phone and find the music app 
> settings you should find the QE settings in there. It is usually  turned off 
> by default but if you turn it on you can adjust your preferences for the type 
> of music and other stuff. This may have nothing to do with your issue but 
> it’s worth a look. 
> 
>> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could 
>> simply tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to 
>> play in stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect 
>> example, if I wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can 
>> barely hear the lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  
>> However, if I were to listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear 
>> both, but the channels for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing 
>> the lead vocalist in my right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is 
>> there a feature I’m missing as far as fixing this, or is it just something 
>> we just have to live with for a while?
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Brad Snyder]

I’ve done nothing special with the EQ setting in the Music app on my iPhone X 
running iOS 13.4.1, and I just played the same track (Aquarius by the 5th 
Dimension) and everything sounded good through both the iPhone’s speakers and 
my AirPods Pro.

- Brad -




On May 13, 2020, at 20:06, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi Jessica,
Can’t say I’ve noticed this. But did you ever use the QE function on the music 
app? If you go in to your settings on your phone and find the music app 
settings you should find the QE settings in there. It is usually  turned off by 
default but if you turn it on you can adjust your preferences for the type of 
music and other stuff. This may have nothing to do with your issue but it’s 
worth a look. 

> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could simply 
> tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
> stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
> wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the 
> lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to 
> listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels 
> for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my 
> right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing 
> as far as fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for 
> a while?
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Jessica,
Can’t say I’ve noticed this. But did you ever use the QE function on the music 
app? If you go in to your settings on your phone and find the music app 
settings you should find the QE settings in there. It is usually  turned off by 
default but if you turn it on you can adjust your preferences for the type of 
music and other stuff. This may have nothing to do with your issue but it’s 
worth a look. 

> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could simply 
> tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
> stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
> wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the 
> lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to 
> listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels 
> for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my 
> right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing 
> as far as fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for 
> a while?
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Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Jessica Moss]

I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could simply 
tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the lead 
vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to listen to 
that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels for this 
track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my right ear, 
and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing as far as 
fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for a while?

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strange issue with iCloud files folder

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Earlier this morning I copied a folder to iCloud on my Pc, with the intention 
of moving it onto my Mac.  The folder shows up in iCloud on my PC, but it is 
still not showing up on my Mac.  Anyone know what would cause this?  Is there 
anyway to force iCloud on the Mac to sync?
Thanks,
Donna

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RE: Strange issue.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes under settings,
Phone
And then 
Calls on other devices, when near by,
 Click on this and then work your way down the page, it will list any devices 
on the same iCloud account, you can unselect the one you don't wish to have 
ring, so in each device untick the one that is the other device.

Good luck.

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Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 3:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange issue.

Hi,

It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" feature.  
That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may wish to 
check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I would turn 
off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from the personal 
device first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> 
wrote:

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

Thanks all over the place gang.


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Re: Strange issue.

[Nickus de Vos]

Yes, this happens if both numbers are selected in FaceTime settings on either 
one or both of the phones. You must make sure that only The number Belonging to 
the phone is selected on it and also as said previously, turn off allow calls 
from other devices in the phone settings. While you are at it, also do the same 
in the iMessage settings.

Nickus
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos...

> On 09 Aug 2017, at 19:06, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Tim:
> 
> Thanks all over the place.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Strange issue.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" 
> feature.  That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may 
> wish to check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I 
> would turn off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from 
> the personal device first.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Gang:
> 
> I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are 
> using the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both 
> phones ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.
> 
> Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?
> 
> Thanks all over the place gang.
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RE: Strange issue.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Tim:

Thanks all over the place.



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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange issue.

Hi,

It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" feature.  
That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may wish to 
check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I would turn 
off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from the personal 
device first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> 
wrote:

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

Thanks all over the place gang.


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Re: Strange issue.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" feature.  
That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may wish to 
check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I would turn 
off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from the personal 
device first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

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Strange issue.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

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Re: Strange Issue with Mail Preferences

[Jonathan Cohn]

Try moving the cursor away from the setting and back to make sure the right 
item was selected.
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jan 20, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I’m looking for any suggestions to resolve an unusual problem in setting the 
> “Spell-Check” property in Mail Preferences.
> 
> A friend had the property set to “As You Type” and wanted to change it to 
> “Never.” I walked her through the “Mail Preferences” sheet; having her select 
> the “Composing Button” in the Tool Bar and then selecting “Never” in the 
> Pop-Up for Spell-Check.  I then advised her to close the window with 
> +W, but when she tried to compose a mail message with an 
> intentionally misspelled word the spell checking screen still appeared.
> 
> She is using a Mac Mini (2.6 GHz) with Sierra installed.
> 
> Does anybody have any thoughts on this.  I should add that I repeated the 
> exact steps on my Mac Mini and spelll check is naught coming up for me. (for 
> thoze that are able to vizhually read this message, yes, I’ve intentionally 
> put spelling airrors in these final lynes)! ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> Bill
> - "It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that 
> you would lie if you were in his place."
> - US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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Strange Issue with Mail Preferences

[Bill Gallik]

I’m looking for any suggestions to resolve an unusual problem in setting the 
“Spell-Check” property in Mail Preferences.

A friend had the property set to “As You Type” and wanted to change it to 
“Never.” I walked her through the “Mail Preferences” sheet; having her select 
the “Composing Button” in the Tool Bar and then selecting “Never” in the Pop-Up 
for Spell-Check.  I then advised her to close the window with +W, but 
when she tried to compose a mail message with an intentionally misspelled word 
the spell checking screen still appeared.

She is using a Mac Mini (2.6 GHz) with Sierra installed.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this.  I should add that I repeated the exact 
steps on my Mac Mini and spelll check is naught coming up for me. (for thoze 
that are able to vizhually read this message, yes, I’ve intentionally put 
spelling airrors in these final lynes)! ;-)



Bill
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RE: A very strange issue with Mac keyboard

[Bill Holton]

Ctually, problem got solved when I cleared my modifier keys and then reset them 
up.  Thanks.


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Subject: Re: A very strange issue with Mac keyboard

Have you checked what keyboard layout is selected?  You may have accidentally 
switched to another keyboard layout.

Andrew
> On 7 Nov 2016, at 20:01, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Does a restart clear this up? When the Mac goes mental, I will restart it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/7/2016 10:43 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
>> Hi.
>> All of a sudden, the letters H and I have swapped places on my mac mini 
>> keyboard.  If I type VO-I I get help, the keyboard help shows every key I 
>> type as an h is seen as an I, and every I typed becomes an H.  Only two keys 
>> that seem to be affected.
>> 
>> 
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Re: A very strange issue with Mac keyboard

[Andrew Lamanche]

Have you checked what keyboard layout is selected?  You may have accidentally 
switched to another keyboard layout.

Andrew
> On 7 Nov 2016, at 20:01, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Does a restart clear this up? When the Mac goes mental, I will restart it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/7/2016 10:43 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
>> Hi.
>> All of a sudden, the letters H and I have swapped places on my mac mini 
>> keyboard.  If I type VO-I I get help, the keyboard help shows every key I 
>> type as an h is seen as an I, and every I typed becomes an H.  Only two keys 
>> that seem to be affected.
>> 
>> 
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Re: A very strange issue with Mac keyboard

[E.T.]

   Does a restart clear this up? When the Mac goes mental, I will 
restart it.


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  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2016 10:43 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
All of a sudden, the letters H and I have swapped places on my mac mini 
keyboard.  If I type VO-I I get help, the keyboard help shows every key I type 
as an h is seen as an I, and every I typed becomes an H.  Only two keys that 
seem to be affected.




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A very strange issue with Mac keyboard

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
All of a sudden, the letters H and I have swapped places on my mac mini 
keyboard.  If I type VO-I I get help, the keyboard help shows every key I type 
as an h is seen as an I, and every I typed becomes an H.  Only two keys that 
seem to be affected.  


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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Roland Zitzke]

Hello Anne,

Am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015 13:38:38 UTC+2 schrieb Anne Robertson:



 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again! 
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m 
 looking at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a 
 time, and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. 
 When I go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of 
 pages.. 

 I can fully confirm this behavior. It appears as if multipage documents 
simply do not work (yet).
This is a little surprising since the overall accessibility of Word looks 
quite good at a first glance.

/Roland

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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Krister,

I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys work 
fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not in the 
same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The mouse is 
somewhere else again!
I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking at 
has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and VO 
says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to the 
Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..

Cheers,

Anne


 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when i 
 try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now if 
i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a word 
and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is spoken 
except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
/Krister

 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
 Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
 document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys 
 work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not 
 in the same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The 
 mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
 VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to 
 the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
 i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi There,

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
replying to this thread.

Thanks.

Warmest regards,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
 if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a 
 word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is 
 spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
 /Krister
 
 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
 VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go 
 to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
 i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eileen,

The beta still works but you have to download the updater and update the 
applications regularly. It seems that every time I open Word, the updater kicks 
in and downloads a new version.

The whole process was explained here a while ago but I don’t seem to have kept 
the message. Perhaps someone else has kept it.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 16 Jul 2015, at 19:24, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi There,
 
 I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
 for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
 question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
 product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
 interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
 replying to this thread.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Warmest regards,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
 if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of 
 a word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever 
 is spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
 /Krister
 
 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, 
 and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I 
 go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but 
 when i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is 
 read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but 
 what obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi there.
I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i try 
to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using only up- 
and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the cursor is 
elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route the mouse to 
the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, vo+shift+spacebar, the 
cursor goes to the document area where i am but when i try reading using up- or 
down arrow only one character of a line is read.
I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
obvious thing im i missing?
Anyone else come across this?
/Krister

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Re: a strange issue with bootcamp

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Wuh?

Oh? bizarre!  It almost sounds like somehow it's trying to go into internet 
recovery mode, as that's where you'd select a wifi network.  Well, dumb 
question, but if you do this, then! what does it do?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:21 AM
Subject: a strange issue with bootcamp


Hi everyone,
so as the subject line states, I’m having a strange issue with bootcamp. 
When I hit option when my mac boots up, it brings me to a screen where I 
have to select my wifi network instead of giving me the option to boot to 
windows.
Has anyone else seen this before? If so, any way I can resolve this? As it 
turns out, I need access to windows in the here and now as my windows 
machine will be sent away with the movers and I will only have access to my 
mac book pro for the next little while.

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a strange issue with bootcamp

[Faisal ali]

Hi everyone,
so as the subject line states, I’m having a strange issue with bootcamp. When I 
hit option when my mac boots up, it brings me to a screen where I have to 
select my wifi network instead of giving me the option to boot to windows.
Has anyone else seen this before? If so, any way I can resolve this? As it 
turns out, I need access to windows in the here and now as my windows machine 
will be sent away with the movers and I will only have access to my mac book 
pro for the next little while.
Thanks

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Re: strange issue with my computer

[Shaf]

Be more specific.

On 6/14/2015 12:49 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows on 
my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue came up. 
before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to type on the 
edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody help me. i 
already repair my disk.
thanks



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Re: strange issue with my computer

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

sounds like a quicknav issue?


Jonathan Cohn 

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 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows on 
 my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue came 
 up. before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to type on 
 the edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody help me. 
 i already repair my disk.
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strange issue with my computer

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows on 
my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue came up. 
before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to type on the 
edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody help me. i 
already repair my disk.
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Re: strange issue with my computer

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i don't think so because i turn off quick nav to type on the edit filled
 On 14 Jun 2015, at 2:24 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 sounds like a quicknav issue?
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn 
 
 On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows 
 on my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue 
 came up. before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to 
 type on the edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody 
 help me. i already repair my disk.
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Anders Holmberg]

Hello!
I can not reproduce this.
When i press option command b it says edit text and then i am on a bookmarks 
page. Pressing the same keys again makes vo say edit text.
/A
 23 dec 2014 kl. 21:04 skrev Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com:
 
 Hi all,
 I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
 appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
 bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
 command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
 All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
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strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Faisal ali]

Hi all,
I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. All 
I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to restore 
Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Lorie McCloud]

I’m having trouble getting to my bookmarks at all. even command-option-b won’t 
bring them up. if I go into the context menu and vo-right-arrow or left arrow 
it either doesn’t respond at all or I get a bonk. I wonder if that’s related. 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
 appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
 bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
 command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
 All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
 restore Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[David Griffith]

I will give it another try but so far I cannot replicate your problem.
What happens for me when I quit the bookmark editor is that I am in the 
Toolbar. Rather than navigating around this I routinely hit command shift H to 
go to my home page with focus on the web page. This was habit I developed under 
Mavericks for those occasions I wanted to quickly get out of the Tool bar and 
this seems to work just as well under Yosemite.

As i say I will keep on trying to see if I can reproduce your problem.

David Griffith
   
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 I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
 appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
 bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
 command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
 All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Faisal ali]

David,
CMD shit h might be my only option aside from restarting safari.
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:18 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I will give it another try but so far I cannot replicate your problem.
 What happens for me when I quit the bookmark editor is that I am in the 
 Toolbar. Rather than navigating around this I routinely hit command shift H 
 to go to my home page with focus on the web page. This was habit I developed 
 under Mavericks for those occasions I wanted to quickly get out of the Tool 
 bar and this seems to work just as well under Yosemite.
 
 As i say I will keep on trying to see if I can reproduce your problem.
 
 David Griffith
 
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 20:04, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
 appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
 bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
 command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
 All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
 restore Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
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A strange issue i have with voices

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello good people.
I will now as best i can try to describe a problem i have and have had since 
Mavericks. Every so often especially when browsing facebook or other apps with 
html content, but even in other apps, Voiceover will all of a sudden go silent 
and after that the only things that can be heard are the typical voiceover 
sounds when changing lines, windows etc, no speech is present. The only way 
i’ve found for speech to come back again is if i reboot the computer. I wonder 
if this is a known issue among you or if it may be unique to my mid 2011 IMac 
who’s never had a clean install? I wonder if there’s anything one could remove 
in terms of prefs files or such in order for this to go away or if a clean 
install has to be done. I hesitate to go the clean install route because of 
everything i have collected through the years but if it has to be done, so be 
it and then i only need to read up on how to cleanly install Yosemite on the 
Mac.
TIA,
/Krister

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Re: A strange issue i have with voices

[Andrew Lamanche]

Krister,

Forgive me if I say something obvious you know and tried already, but have you 
repaired permissions?  Also, have you verified your disk in disk utility which 
you can find in the same tab in disk utility, that is under first aid?  You 
may want to do this from your start up partition for best effect by restarting 
your computer and then holding down command+r immediately you hear the chime.  
Hold it down for a while, and then release.  Your imac will boot but you have 
to start speech with command+f5 yourself as it won't come on automatically.  
Once you have got speech, you will be on the table where you choose disk 
utility.  In disk utility, choose your macintosh hd, and then select first 
aid' tab and then repair permissions as well as verify disk.  If you get a 
message that your disk needs repairing, you can repair it under the same tab by 
choosing repair disk.

Also, I've recently bought an application called app-delete'.  It seems a very 
useful app.  One of the choices in the app is to look for orphan files.  These 
pieces of apps or files left behind after deletion.  You said you had 
accumulated a lot of stuff over the years.  Maybe you have lots of orphan stuff 
on your computer as well, like invalid preferences files etc.  If you want to 
purchase app-delete - which is not very expensive - get it from the developer's 
website as the version available in AppStore is apparently buggy.  I know this 
from somebody on this list.  I'm copying the link to the developer's website 
below.  You can use app-delete to delete unwanted applications and and 
app-delete makes sure that everything is deleted.  You will have to learn how 
to do this but I know you have a lot of experience since you've been on the 
list for years. Here's the link:

http://www.reggieashworth.com/appdelete

Best wishes

Andrew
 On 14 Dec 2014, at 13:10, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hello good people.
 I will now as best i can try to describe a problem i have and have had since 
 Mavericks. Every so often especially when browsing facebook or other apps 
 with html content, but even in other apps, Voiceover will all of a sudden go 
 silent and after that the only things that can be heard are the typical 
 voiceover sounds when changing lines, windows etc, no speech is present. The 
 only way i’ve found for speech to come back again is if i reboot the 
 computer. I wonder if this is a known issue among you or if it may be unique 
 to my mid 2011 IMac who’s never had a clean install? I wonder if there’s 
 anything one could remove in terms of prefs files or such in order for this 
 to go away or if a clean install has to be done. I hesitate to go the clean 
 install route because of everything i have collected through the years but if 
 it has to be done, so be it and then i only need to read up on how to cleanly 
 install Yosemite on the Mac.
 TIA,
 /Krister
 
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Re: A strange issue i have with voices

[Krister Ekstrom]

Ahem, i have actually repaired permissions, but not verified the disk, this 
will be done immediately after having read the mails i’ve got. I have app 
delete as well so i’ll check those orphan files and see if they can be removed 
in some way. Thanks for the tips and more tips are welcome.
/Krister

 14 dec 2014 kl. 16:49 skrev Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com:
 
 Krister,
 
 Forgive me if I say something obvious you know and tried already, but have 
 you repaired permissions?  Also, have you verified your disk in disk utility 
 which you can find in the same tab in disk utility, that is under first 
 aid?  You may want to do this from your start up partition for best effect 
 by restarting your computer and then holding down command+r immediately you 
 hear the chime.  Hold it down for a while, and then release.  Your imac will 
 boot but you have to start speech with command+f5 yourself as it won't come 
 on automatically.  Once you have got speech, you will be on the table where 
 you choose disk utility.  In disk utility, choose your macintosh hd, and then 
 select first aid' tab and then repair permissions as well as verify disk.  
 If you get a message that your disk needs repairing, you can repair it under 
 the same tab by choosing repair disk.
 
 Also, I've recently bought an application called app-delete'.  It seems a 
 very useful app.  One of the choices in the app is to look for orphan files.  
 These pieces of apps or files left behind after deletion.  You said you had 
 accumulated a lot of stuff over the years.  Maybe you have lots of orphan 
 stuff on your computer as well, like invalid preferences files etc.  If you 
 want to purchase app-delete - which is not very expensive - get it from the 
 developer's website as the version available in AppStore is apparently buggy. 
  I know this from somebody on this list.  I'm copying the link to the 
 developer's website below.  You can use app-delete to delete unwanted 
 applications and and app-delete makes sure that everything is deleted.  You 
 will have to learn how to do this but I know you have a lot of experience 
 since you've been on the list for years. Here's the link:
 
 http://www.reggieashworth.com/appdelete
 
 Best wishes
 
 Andrew
 On 14 Dec 2014, at 13:10, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hello good people.
 I will now as best i can try to describe a problem i have and have had since 
 Mavericks. Every so often especially when browsing facebook or other apps 
 with html content, but even in other apps, Voiceover will all of a sudden go 
 silent and after that the only things that can be heard are the typical 
 voiceover sounds when changing lines, windows etc, no speech is present. The 
 only way i’ve found for speech to come back again is if i reboot the 
 computer. I wonder if this is a known issue among you or if it may be unique 
 to my mid 2011 IMac who’s never had a clean install? I wonder if there’s 
 anything one could remove in terms of prefs files or such in order for this 
 to go away or if a clean install has to be done. I hesitate to go the clean 
 install route because of everything i have collected through the years but 
 if it has to be done, so be it and then i only need to read up on how to 
 cleanly install Yosemite on the Mac.
 TIA,
 /Krister
 
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Re: A strange issue i have with voices

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i have a similar problem.
I can start safari and move around and then go away to do something else and 
when i come back i cant here voiceover.
It seems to lock up.
/A
 14 dec 2014 kl. 14:10 skrev Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com:
 
 Hello good people.
 I will now as best i can try to describe a problem i have and have had since 
 Mavericks. Every so often especially when browsing facebook or other apps 
 with html content, but even in other apps, Voiceover will all of a sudden go 
 silent and after that the only things that can be heard are the typical 
 voiceover sounds when changing lines, windows etc, no speech is present. The 
 only way i’ve found for speech to come back again is if i reboot the 
 computer. I wonder if this is a known issue among you or if it may be unique 
 to my mid 2011 IMac who’s never had a clean install? I wonder if there’s 
 anything one could remove in terms of prefs files or such in order for this 
 to go away or if a clean install has to be done. I hesitate to go the clean 
 install route because of everything i have collected through the years but if 
 it has to be done, so be it and then i only need to read up on how to cleanly 
 install Yosemite on the Mac.
 TIA,
 /Krister
 
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Having a strange issue when installing Yosemite onto my macbook air

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi people.
I’m trying to install the released version of Yosemite onto my Macbook äir 
where there’s a beta version of Yosemite installed. When i try installing 
Yosemite from the purchased items page of the app store, i get a dialog that 
says that i couldn’t complete the purchase, yosemite is already installed on 
this computer use the page for updating if you want to update or click continue 
to fetch the full installer of Yosemite. Then there’s a ”read more” and an ”ok” 
button which is the default, but no ”continue” button whatsoever and if i click 
on ”read more” i’m taken to a page with system requirements for Mavericks and 
if i press ”ok” i’m back where i can get Yosemite again but nothing has been 
done and as i said there’s no ”continue” button nor link nor anything. What 
gives here? What obvious thing am i missing?
/Krister

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Re: another strange issue

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If you’re using iMap with Gmail, and you attempt to quit Mail too quickly after 
performing a delete message, move message or something like that, Mail will 
often either give you an error saying that it couldn’t complete the task or it 
may just sit there for some time trying to complete the task.  Usually, it will 
either eventually quit or stay confused forever.  this sort of thing has 
happened in some previous versions of the MacOS as well.  Using iCloud iMap, 
this doesn’t seem to occur.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Yes sometimes this happens to me.
 Yesterday i couldn’t  close mail so i closed my mac instead and started over.
 /A 
 23 okt 2014 kl. 08:30 skrev Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com:
 
 I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not 
 the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail 
 to close when I do the command q keystroke.
 sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they 
 were in Mavericks.
 Is anyone else finding this to be the case?
 
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Re: another strange issue

[gs]

I have only had this problem when the Messages app was open.  Otherwise it does 
not occur for me at this time.

On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

Hi,

If you’re using iMap with Gmail, and you attempt to quit Mail too quickly after 
performing a delete message, move message or something like that, Mail will 
often either give you an error saying that it couldn’t complete the task or it 
may just sit there for some time trying to complete the task.  Usually, it will 
either eventually quit or stay confused forever.  this sort of thing has 
happened in some previous versions of the MacOS as well.  Using iCloud iMap, 
this doesn’t seem to occur.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Yes sometimes this happens to me.
 Yesterday i couldn’t  close mail so i closed my mac instead and started over.
 /A 
 23 okt 2014 kl. 08:30 skrev Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com:
 
 I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not 
 the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail 
 to close when I do the command q keystroke.
 sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they 
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another strange issue

[Faisal]

I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not the 
same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail to close 
when I do the command q keystroke.
sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they were 
in Mavericks.
Is anyone else finding this to be the case?

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Re: another strange issue

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Faisal. I had this problem too. It was after I upgraded to Yosemite. Just 
had to reboot a couple days ago because it was getting stuck in the messages 
app trying to retrieve the code to forward texts to my Mac and that solved both 
issues. So short answer, try to reboot and see what happens.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not 
 the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail to 
 close when I do the command q keystroke.
 sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they 
 were in Mavericks.
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Re: another strange issue

[Faisal]

rebooting it seems to fix it but doing that is a tremendous inconvenience. I 
wonder if there is a setting I could change or something which can prevent this 
from happening. If I’m in the middle of editing some important documents or in 
class taking notes. 
I also discovered that it seem to be doing it more after waking it up. I wonder 
if that is a part of it?notes, rebooting is is not a viable option.
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:08 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Faisal. I had this problem too. It was after I upgraded to Yosemite. Just 
 had to reboot a couple days ago because it was getting stuck in the messages 
 app trying to retrieve the code to forward texts to my Mac and that solved 
 both issues. So short answer, try to reboot and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not 
 the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail 
 to close when I do the command q keystroke.
 sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they 
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Re: another strange issue

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Faisal. I only had to reboot my computer once for the problem to go away. 
Also I have it set to never put the hard drive to sleep when plugged in, just 
the display. As for a setting, I don't think there is one. Perhaps Apple will 
fix this in an update if you or anyone else is using battery power.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:16 AM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 rebooting it seems to fix it but doing that is a tremendous inconvenience. I 
 wonder if there is a setting I could change or something which can prevent 
 this from happening. If I’m in the middle of editing some important documents 
 or in class taking notes. 
 I also discovered that it seem to be doing it more after waking it up. I 
 wonder if that is a part of it?notes, rebooting is is not a viable option.
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:08 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Faisal. I had this problem too. It was after I upgraded to Yosemite. Just 
 had to reboot a couple days ago because it was getting stuck in the messages 
 app trying to retrieve the code to forward texts to my Mac and that solved 
 both issues. So short answer, try to reboot and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not 
 the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail 
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 sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they 
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Re: another strange issue

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes sometimes this happens to me.
Yesterday i couldn’t  close mail so i closed my mac instead and started over.
/A 
 23 okt 2014 kl. 08:30 skrev Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com:
 
 I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not 
 the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail to 
 close when I do the command q keystroke.
 sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they 
 were in Mavericks.
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Re: Another strange issue

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i also have no audio indication when turning up or down the volume.
I wonder if its gone?
/A
 18 okt 2014 kl. 22:15 skrev Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
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Re: Another strange issue

[Cheryl Homiak]

I think you will have audio for volume change if you go to System Preferences  
Sound and select the sound effects tab. Then go to the right and you will 
eventually find the appropriate checkbox and it is unchecked by default. 
Probably you did the same thing I did at first and looked for this in voiceover 
utility but that's not the place to look; this isn't just a voiceover feature 
so I guess that makes sense.
  
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 On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Yes i also have no audio indication when turning up or down the volume.
 I wonder if its gone?
 /A
 18 okt 2014 kl. 22:15 skrev Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
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Another strange issue

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey all.
I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
Thanks.
Matt Dierckens
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Re: Another strange issue

[Brandt Steenkamp]

Hi there,

No idea about the dictation thing, but the clicks for the volume control is 
gone, why, I have no idea. It was there threw some of the beta period, but went 
away round about DP 4 or 5. 

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 On 18 Oct 2014, at 10:15 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
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Re: Another strange issue

[gs]

I read somewhere that this missing volume up-down sound was done intentionally. 
Personally, I think it is probably fine with me, once I get used to it.


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wrote:

Hi there,

No idea about the dictation thing, but the clicks for the volume control is 
gone, why, I have no idea. It was there threw some of the beta period, but went 
away round about DP 4 or 5. 

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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 On 18 Oct 2014, at 10:15 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
 Matt Dierckens
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Re: Another strange issue

[christopher hallsworth]

I don't get the audible indications either.
 On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:15, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
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Re: Another strange issue

[Matt Dierckens]

Maybe because the sound sucked? Lol in all seriousness, I got it to where 
dictation works.
Haven't tried to do the extra commands, but hoping that will work as well.
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 On Oct 18, 2014, at 16:20, Brandt Steenkamp brandt.steenk...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 No idea about the dictation thing, but the clicks for the volume control is 
 gone, why, I have no idea. It was there threw some of the beta period, but 
 went away round about DP 4 or 5. 
 
 Warm regards,
 
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 On 18 Oct 2014, at 10:15 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
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 Blind Access Training
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Re: Another strange issue

[Dionipher Herrera]

go to the sound preferences then click sound effect then check play feed back 
when volume is change. but the sound now is different.
 On 18 Oct 2014, at 22:32, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Maybe because the sound sucked? Lol in all seriousness, I got it to where 
 dictation works.
 Haven't tried to do the extra commands, but hoping that will work as well.
 Matt Dierckens
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 On Oct 18, 2014, at 16:20, Brandt Steenkamp brandt.steenk...@gmail.com 
 mailto:brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 No idea about the dictation thing, but the clicks for the volume control is 
 gone, why, I have no idea. It was there threw some of the beta period, but 
 went away round about DP 4 or 5. 
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
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 On 18 Oct 2014, at 10:15 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
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Re: Another strange issue

[Matt Dierckens]

Thanks, that did the trick. For some reason that was unchecked.

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 On Oct 18, 2014, at 17:05, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 go to the sound preferences then click sound effect then check play feed back 
 when volume is change. but the sound now is different.
 On 18 Oct 2014, at 22:32, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Maybe because the sound sucked? Lol in all seriousness, I got it to where 
 dictation works.
 Haven't tried to do the extra commands, but hoping that will work as well.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com http://blindaccesstraining.com/
 Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 16:20, Brandt Steenkamp brandt.steenk...@gmail.com 
 mailto:brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 No idea about the dictation thing, but the clicks for the volume control is 
 gone, why, I have no idea. It was there threw some of the beta period, but 
 went away round about DP 4 or 5. 
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 Contact me:
 
 Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27605259181
 
 Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com mailto:brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 My ring to Skype:
 California, United States
   +(1)760-5140161  
 Extension 512
 Cape Town, South Africa
+(27)213-002317  
 Extension 161
 Johannesburg, South Africa
 +(27)105-002316
 Extension 170
 
 Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
 
 SIP: 5500...@spokn.com mailto:5500...@spokn.com
 
 Twitter: brandtsteenkamp
 
 On 18 Oct 2014, at 10:15 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 I have a couple of issues with Yosemite.
 1. When I turn up and down the volume, I no longer get audible indication.
 2. When attempting to use dictation, I also get no audible sound.
 If anyone knows how to fix this that would be great.
 Thanks.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/
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strange issue

[May McDonald Homuth]

Good day everyone.

i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.

Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username or 
address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with the up 
and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the line. If I do 
right and left arrows they will just say blank.

Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?

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Re: strange issue

[Alex Hall]

Do you have quick nav on? It sounds like you do, and are set to characters. Hit 
the left and right arrows together to turn it off.
On May 4, 2014, at 6:53 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:

 Good day everyone.
 
 i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.
 
 Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username or 
 address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with the 
 up and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the line. If 
 I do right and left arrows they will just say blank.
 
 Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?
 
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Re: strange issue

[May McDonald Homuth]

Hmm, yes it is off, but didn't fix the issue.

Weird!

May, RIP Prince Noah, May 31, 2009 to April 1, 2014
 www.canadianlynx.ca

On May 4, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Do you have quick nav on? It sounds like you do, and are set to characters. 
 Hit the left and right arrows together to turn it off.
 On May 4, 2014, at 6:53 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 Good day everyone.
 
 i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.
 
 Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username or 
 address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with the 
 up and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the line. If 
 I do right and left arrows they will just say blank.
 
 Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?
 
 May, RIP Prince Noah, May 31, 2009 to April 1, 2014
 www.canadianlynx.ca
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Re: strange issue

[David Taylor]

Hi,

Whenever you get weird things like this, it's always worth quitting and 
restarting VoiceOver. Also, have you checked if you have any system dialogs? Do 
vo-f1 twice quickly, (written as VO-f1-f1) and if you have any system dialogs 
or notifications, right arrow into them, select them and act on them or close 
them. You will often find a scroll area to interact with to get details in 
these. 

Cheers
Dave

On 5 May 2014, at 00:08, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:

 Hmm, yes it is off, but didn't fix the issue.
 
 Weird!
 
 May, RIP Prince Noah, May 31, 2009 to April 1, 2014
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 
 On May 4, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Do you have quick nav on? It sounds like you do, and are set to characters. 
 Hit the left and right arrows together to turn it off.
 On May 4, 2014, at 6:53 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 Good day everyone.
 
 i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.
 
 Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username 
 or address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with 
 the up and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the 
 line. If I do right and left arrows they will just say blank.
 
 Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?
 
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 www.canadianlynx.ca
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Strange issue with importing CD's to iTunes.

[Jessica Moss]

I've been trying to rip CD's to Itunes, and the mp3 encode option is checked, 
but for I don't know what reason, it continuously waints to convert them to aif 
format
  This is fine if I want to play them on my phone, but if I want to transfer 
them to Hannah's sansa clip+, that can get annoying fast, because I have to 
turn right around and convert them to mp3 format.  Does anyone know why this 
could be happening?

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Strange Issue with VMWare Fusion/Sharing Virtual Machine between OSX User Accounts

[Harry Hogue]

Hello,

In brief, the situation is as follows:  Two different accounts for OSX and 
Windows both, one for personal and one for work, to keep things nicely 
separated.  Tried to share the VM between both OSX user accounts by placing the 
VM in /users/shared, and now Sharpkeys mapping for right option to 
capslock/insert is no longer remembered, and even after reauthorizing JAWS, the 
authorization is not remembered on either Windows account and regardless of the 
OSX user logged in at the time.  More detailed explanation follows in a 
numbered list if it is helpful.


1.  I have two different OSX user accounts -- one for personal use and one for 
use at my work.

2.  I want to share my virtual machine between these two user accounts, so I 
followed instructions I found through a Google search which directed me to put 
the .vmwarevm file into /users/shared

3.  Now, my JAWS authorization is not remembered, nor is the right option key 
acting as my insert key as I had set in Sharpkeys, although it does still 
function as the capslock key, for some strange reason.

4.  Sharpkeys 3.5 does not appear to work non-visually, so I am unable to set 
the right option ke as my insert key again.

5.  Not that this necessarily matters, as the VM will mirror files and folders 
of the current OSX user, but I had created two Windows accounts as well -- one 
for personal and one for work, just to sort of keep things similar.

I think I am complicating things, to be sure, and I had heard that JAWS will 
think the authorization has been moved off the computer if the VM is moved, but 
why would nothing I originally have set be remembered, such as my insert key 
mapping through Sharpkeys?  Also I did reauthorize JAWS last night, and it said 
it was successful, but it is not remembered anymore, no matter what OSX account 
or Windows account I am on.

Sometimes I just hate JAWS and Windows both, but I need to take advantage of 
Microsoft Word and Excel.

Thanks for any thoughts,

Harry

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Re: strange issue, please help

[Nicholas Parsons]

Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
you can also try the following:
•   Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop 
with Command-L as Tim said.
•   Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
•   Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
•   Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
•   Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V 
to move the alias to the desktop.

Cheers,
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Gi,
Thank you, both Tim  Nick for your specific instructions. I still have one 
question. At any time during the process must one interact with the folder or 
ailius?
Thanks much

Pam Francis

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Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
you can also try the following:
   •Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop with 
Command-L as Tim said.
   •Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
   •Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
   •Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
   •Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V to move 
the alias to the desktop.

Cheers,
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Re: strange issue, please help

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There should be no need to Interact with the actual folder or Alias.  As long 
as you navigate to the specific item and that item is selected, everything will 
work as outlined.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-09, at 2:24 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

 Gi,
 Thank you, both Tim  Nick for your specific instructions. I still have one 
 question. At any time during the process must one interact with the folder or 
 ailius?
 Thanks much
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 9, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
 you can also try the following:
   •Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop with 
 Command-L as Tim said.
   •Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
   •Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
   •Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
   •Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V to 
 move the alias to the desktop.
 
 Cheers,
 Nic 
 
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strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[Ray Foret jr]

Just thinking here.  Can you not just cut and paste the items you wish on the 
desk top folder right off your home folder?  I mean when you create the alious 
for one app, it goes to the desk top right?  So, when you create the second 
one, is that when you get the second has droped on the first thingy?  Another 
thought.  While I can see why you might want to do this for quickness of access 
to your favorite apps, why not just add these apps to the doc and save yourself 
a lot of trouble?  After all, it might have benefited to add apps to the desk 
top under the W operating system:  But, under the Mac, I can't really see much 
of an advantage to doing it this way.  Still, just thinking.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
 desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
 to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
 on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
 correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
 or uncheck to make this work properly?
 Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hello thank you,
The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want to 
create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder  the 
home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. However, I 
changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to see where I 
am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a little vision. 
I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, it lands on the 
desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would save some 
keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hi 
I failed to answer a part of your question. Yes, the second ailius drops on the 
first.
Thanks much.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hello thank you,
The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want to 
create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder  the 
home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. However, I 
changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to see where I 
am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a little vision. 
I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, it lands on the 
desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would save some 
keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The Applications folder is where all the apps are normally stored by default.  
Your Home folder is where your personal data is normally stored.  When in the 
Finder, cmd-shift-a takes you to your Applications folder and cmd-shift-h takes 
you to your Home folder.  Applications should remain in the Applications folder 
and, as you've mentioned, an alias is what needs placed on your Desktop.  
Moving the actual Application out of the Applications folder may cause strange 
behaviours.

So, when in the Finder,

• press cmd-shift-a to open your Applications folder.
• Navigate to the app you wish to make an alias for.
• Press cmd-l to make the alias.
4.  Press cmd-c on that alias.
5.  Navigate to your Desktop with VO-shift-d.
6.  Press cmd-option-v to Move the alias to your Desktop.

When on your Desktop, you can clean things up buy making sure that your Desktop 
is active then going up to the View menu and choosing Cleanup.  You can also 
have the icons on your Desktop quickly be cleaned up and alphabetized by 
pressing cmd-option-1.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-08, at 12:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

 Hello thank you,
 The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want 
 to create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder  
 the home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. 
 However, I changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to 
 see where I am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a 
 little vision. I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, 
 it lands on the desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would 
 save some keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
 desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
 to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
 on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
 correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
 or uncheck to make this work properly?
 Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
 
 Pam Francis
 
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Thank you Tim for your step by step instructions. Much appreciated.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

The Applications folder is where all the apps are normally stored by default.  
Your Home folder is where your personal data is normally stored.  When in the 
Finder, cmd-shift-a takes you to your Applications folder and cmd-shift-h takes 
you to your Home folder.  Applications should remain in the Applications folder 
and, as you've mentioned, an alias is what needs placed on your Desktop.  
Moving the actual Application out of the Applications folder may cause strange 
behaviours.

So, when in the Finder,

• press cmd-shift-a to open your Applications folder.
• Navigate to the app you wish to make an alias for.
• Press cmd-l to make the alias.
4.  Press cmd-c on that alias.
5.  Navigate to your Desktop with VO-shift-d.
6.  Press cmd-option-v to Move the alias to your Desktop.

When on your Desktop, you can clean things up buy making sure that your Desktop 
is active then going up to the View menu and choosing Cleanup.  You can also 
have the icons on your Desktop quickly be cleaned up and alphabetized by 
pressing cmd-option-1.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-08, at 12:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

 Hello thank you,
 The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want 
 to create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder  
 the home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. 
 However, I changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to 
 see where I am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a 
 little vision. I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, 
 it lands on the desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would 
 save some keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
 desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
 to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
 on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
 correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
 or uncheck to make this work properly?
 Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
 
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Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Gilland]

I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's 
just put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and 
with her help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. 
The startup chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery 
is profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. 
Before you all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually 
booted into the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff 
for a living, but when I say quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and 
I mean, barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic 
casing of the system doesn't even make it
intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
could be going wrong.




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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Blouch]

Not sure why but how's the sound out the headphone jack?

CB

On 5/1/13 12:36 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as 
she needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive 
wiped. I'm not gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was 
pretty bad off, let's just put it that way. Anyway, I've managed to 
get into the recovery, and with her help, we got the installation 
started, but here is my questino. The startup chime, as well as 
Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is profoundly! quiet! I 
can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you all say it's 
gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into the 
OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a 
living, but when I say quiet, I mean quiet! this sucker's barely! and 
I mean, barely! audible! Putting my ear literally touching the plastic 
casing of the system doesn't even make it
intelligible. What in the heck could be causing this. She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running 
some arrends. I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl 
check that could be going wrong.




Chris.





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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Tim Kilburn]

Chris,

First, your regular volume commands of F11/F12 are not usable in Recovery mode 
or in ASR kinds of partitions.  That's normal behaviour.  Two ways to get 
around this is to either press VO-cmd-right arro until you hear VO say 
volume, then press VO-cmd-up arrow to raise the volume.  Alternatively, you 
can reset the PRAM which will put the volume back to a default level which is 
likely at a more ear friendly level.  What probably happened is that her 
computer volume was set really low when you restarted and entered the Recovery 
partition so that's the level you get.

Hope this makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-05-01, at 10:36 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
 needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
 gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's just 
 put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and with her 
 help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The startup 
 chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is 
 profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you 
 all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into 
 the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a living, 
 but when I say quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and I mean, 
 barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic casing of the 
 system doesn't even make it
 intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
 hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
 arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
 could be going wrong.
 
 
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Chris,

this happens all the time for me.  What I do is, Press VO Command left or right 
arrow until you get to the Voiceover volume.  Now, although its at 100%, press 
VO command up arrow.  You will here the system volume increase.

hth   

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 1, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
 needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
 gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's just 
 put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and with her 
 help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The startup 
 chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is 
 profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you 
 all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into 
 the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a living, 
 but when I say quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and I mean, 
 barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic casing of the 
 system doesn't even make it
 intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
 hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
 arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
 could be going wrong.
 
 
 
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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Gilland]

It was incredibly quiet.  I still to this very minute don't know what on 
earth the issue was.


Once the installation finnished, the volume was perfect.  the startup chime 
went back to its normal volume, and the recovery volume also went back to 
normal.  I'm wonderring if something in the efi firmware may have middle 
mucked before the install was done.  God only knows.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery


Not sure why but how's the sound out the headphone jack?

CB

On 5/1/13 12:36 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped. I'm 
not gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, 
let's just put it that way. Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, 
and with her help, we got the installation started, but here is my 
questino. The startup chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in 
the recovery is profoundly! quiet! I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it 
up any. Before you all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when 
you're actually booted into the OS... I completely realize that, remember, 
I do this stuff for a living, but when I say quiet, I mean quiet! this 
sucker's barely! and I mean, barely! audible! Putting my ear literally 
touching the plastic casing of the system doesn't even make it
intelligible. What in the heck could be causing this. She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
arrends. I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
could be going wrong.




Chris.





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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Gilland]

Tim, I don't recall it being all that low before restarting in recovery, but 
you are correct in what you said about the p ram also helping.  After I wrote 
the message to the list, I thought about that, and was like... dang it I feel 
smart right about now!

Not?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery


  Chris,


  First, your regular volume commands of F11/F12 are not usable in Recovery 
mode or in ASR kinds of partitions.  That's normal behaviour.  Two ways to get 
around this is to either press VO-cmd-right arro until you hear VO say 
volume, then press VO-cmd-up arrow to raise the volume.  Alternatively, you 
can reset the PRAM which will put the volume back to a default level which is 
likely at a more ear friendly level.  What probably happened is that her 
computer volume was set really low when you restarted and entered the Recovery 
partition so that's the level you get.


  Hope this makes sense.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On 2013-05-01, at 10:36 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's just 
put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and with her 
help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The startup 
chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is profoundly! 
quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you all say it's 
gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into the OS... I 
completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a living, but when I say 
quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and I mean, barely! audible!  
Putting my ear literally touching the plastic casing of the system doesn't even 
make it
intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
could be going wrong.



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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[John Panarese]

   I've had situations where the volume has been quite low.  I have no idea 
what effects it, but I would say that the volume is definitely lower than what 
you'd expect during the installation.  


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On May 1, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tim, I don't recall it being all that low before restarting in recovery, but 
 you are correct in what you said about the p ram also helping.  After I wrote 
 the message to the list, I thought about that, and was like... dang it I feel 
 smart right about now!
  
 Not?
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Kilburn
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery
 
 Chris,
 
 First, your regular volume commands of F11/F12 are not usable in Recovery 
 mode or in ASR kinds of partitions.  That's normal behaviour.  Two ways to 
 get around this is to either press VO-cmd-right arro until you hear VO say 
 volume, then press VO-cmd-up arrow to raise the volume.  Alternatively, you 
 can reset the PRAM which will put the volume back to a default level which is 
 likely at a more ear friendly level.  What probably happened is that her 
 computer volume was set really low when you restarted and entered the 
 Recovery partition so that's the level you get.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-05-01, at 10:36 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
 needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
 gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's 
 just put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and 
 with her help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The 
 startup chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is 
 profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before 
 you all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted 
 into the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a 
 living, but when I say quiet,  I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and 
 I mean, barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic 
 casing of the system doesn't even make it
 intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
 hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
 arrends.  I'm just wonderring if  there is anything maybe I coudl check 
 that could be going wrong.
 
 
 
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another strange issue with Fusion 4.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Dear All.

Last week I installed windows 7 under Fusion 4.  Everything was fine.  I was 
doing some testing for a company for an E-learning website as they wanted it 
tested by jaws although I did ask if I could use Voice Over to test.  I tried 
the same material with Voice Over but Voice Over would not open the links.  
Anyway, there were a few word documents which I had to use in conjunction with 
the learning material and, when I tried using control and right arrow to move a 
word at a time, jaws which I use with windows 7 would stop speaking and so I'd 
have to do alt tab to get speech back.  Incidentally I mapped my keys using the 
mapping feature in Fusion.  Any one noticed anything like that?  It's a good 
job I don't use windows very much at home although have to use windows at work 
as I'm a braille transcriber.

Kawal. 
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Chris Blouch]

Really? I'll have to try that. I had been putting it off because I 
thought I'd need a MIDI interface and hadn't had the time to slog 
through all the various options.


CB

On 9/20/11 5:02 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
I'm glad that you've got a g as well. Its a great keyboard. You just 
hook it in using the USB port.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-09-20, at 3:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do 
you use a USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the 
USB port?


CB

On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckensmatt.dierck...@gmail.com 
mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi all,
I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on 
the mac
side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the 
juno's
instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. 
Problem

is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. 
But I can
use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck 
to do

about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me 
resolve this

please let me know.
Thanks

Matt
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Chris Blouch]

I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you 
use a USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?


CB

On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckensmatt.dierck...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi all,
I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
please let me know.
Thanks

Matt
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Matt Dierckens]

I'm glad that you've got a g as well. Its a great keyboard. You just hook it in 
using the USB port.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-09-20, at 3:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you use a 
 USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?
 
 CB
 
 On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:
 I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
 actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
 it. That goes with any Roland driver.
 
 On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckensmatt.dierck...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
 side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
 instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
 is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
 minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
 use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
 about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
 If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
 please let me know.
 Thanks
 
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Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi all,
I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac side 
using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's 
instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem is, 
I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20 minutes and 
then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can use the on 
screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do about this, as I 
can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this 
please let me know.
Thanks

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[James Malone]

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
 side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
 instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
 is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
 minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
 use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
 about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
 If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
 please let me know.
 Thanks

 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro

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Strange issue trying to Tweet Blog posts on Wordpress.com

[Christine Grassman]

Hello all.  I am having a truly bizarre issue when attempting to Tweet links to 
blog posts from within Wordpress. While there is a clearly labeled link to 
e-mail, Stumble, share on Facebook, etc., the Tweet link lies within a frame 
labeled zero.  While activating the other links works fine, I cannot get the 
Tweet feature to work.  I did check with Word Press support, and they say 
Twitter sharing is activated and it should not be an issue. (It isn't on a PC.) 
Any thoughts as to what is going on and what I can do to work around it? Thanks.
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Re: Very strange issue after update to SL, Please help

[rayna424]

Ok, thanks for the suggestions. I'll give this a try.

Can anyone explain what repairing permissions means?

Thanks!

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Re: Very strange issue after update to SL, Please help

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Randi:
For eery file, there are various permissions, placed into it; read, write or 
execute, or all three or any combination of them.  If you're having problems, 
look me up on AOL or Skype and I'll help by voice if I can.


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Re: Very strange issue after update to SL, Please help

[rayna424]

According to this article from Apple:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1452?viewlocale=en_US

The upgrade to Snow included the permissions repair. It also states
that repairing permissions now will only repair Snow, so to go back
and repair Leopard, you need the disk. But, since the upgrade repaired
permissions, I don't think that's the issue, unless something was
carried over from Leopard. The issue did not occur in Leopard,
however.

For now, things are running smoothly and incredibly fast. I just have
the very occasional incident of not being able to edit text on a
website. Restarting VO takes care of it. It must be something buggy
with the VO on my Macbook. It's the only conclusion I'm drawing. Since
I know how to get around it for now, things are fine.

Thanks for the help everyone!

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Re: Very strange issue after update to SL, Please help

[Ricardo Walker]

Even still, I would repair permissions.  Its just good to double check stuff 
like that.  It only takes about 10 minutes, so your not losing anything.  

JMO

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On Jan 4, 2011, at 3:29 PM, rayna424 wrote:

 According to this article from Apple:
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1452?viewlocale=en_US
 
 The upgrade to Snow included the permissions repair. It also states
 that repairing permissions now will only repair Snow, so to go back
 and repair Leopard, you need the disk. But, since the upgrade repaired
 permissions, I don't think that's the issue, unless something was
 carried over from Leopard. The issue did not occur in Leopard,
 however.
 
 For now, things are running smoothly and incredibly fast. I just have
 the very occasional incident of not being able to edit text on a
 website. Restarting VO takes care of it. It must be something buggy
 with the VO on my Macbook. It's the only conclusion I'm drawing. Since
 I know how to get around it for now, things are fine.
 
 Thanks for the help everyone!
 
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Re: Very strange issue after update to SL, Please help

[Ricardo Walker]

Sorry.  Just want to add, When you installed SL a permissions repair was 
probably done automatically but, then you had a score of system updates that 
took place.  Its just good practice to run repair permissions afterwards.  Go 
to your utilities folder from the finder with command shift U.  Then open disk 
utility.  Now pick your MAc HD and repair permissions will be under the first 
aid tab which is selected by default.

hth

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On Jan 4, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Even still, I would repair permissions.  Its just good to double check stuff 
 like that.  It only takes about 10 minutes, so your not losing anything.  
 
 JMO
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 4, 2011, at 3:29 PM, rayna424 wrote:
 
 According to this article from Apple:
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1452?viewlocale=en_US
 
 The upgrade to Snow included the permissions repair. It also states
 that repairing permissions now will only repair Snow, so to go back
 and repair Leopard, you need the disk. But, since the upgrade repaired
 permissions, I don't think that's the issue, unless something was
 carried over from Leopard. The issue did not occur in Leopard,
 however.
 
 For now, things are running smoothly and incredibly fast. I just have
 the very occasional incident of not being able to edit text on a
 website. Restarting VO takes care of it. It must be something buggy
 with the VO on my Macbook. It's the only conclusion I'm drawing. Since
 I know how to get around it for now, things are fine.
 
 Thanks for the help everyone!
 
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