RE: Blocking selected senders
For which mail client are you referring to? Mac mail, outlook on a mac, google? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 06:00 To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Blocking selected senders After the last firestorm on this list concerning the creation of a new Apple Beta list, I decided to look into blocking senders. I’m delighted to say that it’s quite easy to set up a rule for this. I just set up a rule to look for any mail “from sender X, and move it to the “trolls” mailbox, and it works like a charm. I’m also glad to say that I now understand the meaning of the word “troll” as it is used in the context of internet listers. Thank you mister X for making its meaning abundantly clear. I learn something new everyday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: dropbox on the mac
OK, in the long run, you'll be directed to the web site, to put their e-mail address in to send the share invite, but to start the process, go to the folder in your finder. Vo+Shift+M on it, and go to the Dropbox Sub Menu. There should be an option in there to share folder. Vo+Space on that, then you'll be well on your way. If you can't figure it out, let me know, and I'll try to help you out further. Chris. - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:27 AM Subject: dropbox on the mac Hi all, I wanted to share a folder using dropbox with a friend. Will I have to go to the website for dropbox or is there a way to do it from the folder on the Mac? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: dropbox on the mac
I am not at my mac at this moment, but interact with the folder and then v o shift m for a right click and see if there is a share in the list -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 06:28 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: dropbox on the mac Hi all, I wanted to share a folder using dropbox with a friend. Will I have to go to the website for dropbox or is there a way to do it from the folder on the Mac? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking selected senders
Glad you got it figured out. If you need any further help, don't hesitate to let us know. Chris. - Original Message - From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:00 AM Subject: Blocking selected senders After the last firestorm on this list concerning the creation of a new Apple Beta list, I decided to look into blocking senders. I’m delighted to say that it’s quite easy to set up a rule for this. I just set up a rule to look for any mail “from sender X, and move it to the “trolls” mailbox, and it works like a charm. I’m also glad to say that I now understand the meaning of the word “troll” as it is used in the context of internet listers. Thank you mister X for making its meaning abundantly clear. I learn something new everyday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
dropbox on the mac
Hi all, I wanted to share a folder using dropbox with a friend. Will I have to go to the website for dropbox or is there a way to do it from the folder on the Mac? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
The huge, giant, Bible sized problem is, that eSpeak is not supportive of voiceover. Sure you could probably run it fine in terminal, but Then you could only read text files with it, and possibly convert them to sound files. Its really bad when some one can get a closed-source synth like Eloquence to work but not a freely open source engine like eSpeak. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Janina Sajka jan...@rednote.net wrote: Hi, I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. http://espeak.sf.net I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a few centuries. hth Janina Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email:jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair,Protocols Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Hi, I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. http://espeak.sf.net I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a few centuries. hth Janina Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OS X beta.
Well, Chris, don't let Tylor's remark to me bother yuh. It's just Tylor being Tylor and trying to cope with the fact that he can't or won't accept Apple's nice strict NDA. People like that are why there's a delete key. Mine's gotten a fair amount of use recently. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Tylor, was that really necessary? Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:06 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you have to check a constantly barefooted box on the NDA agreement as well? On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed. That's Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really want to know, sign up for their public beta program and find out. Y'all are really something else. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta means no nda. On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Diddo. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com *To:* mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commacvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.comjdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer need to have a developer account. Thus making it a public beta. NDA still applies. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. Thanks. Les On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He just wanted a general yes, or no. I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else may not really be as concerned about. Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what it's worth. Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point of being debilitating. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Sadam Ahmed mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com *To:* mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commacvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. So, where in my message am I going into specifics? Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of issues. That would suffice. With Best regards, Sadam Ahmed Diploma of International Business candidate RMIT
Re: I Tunes Match.
Actually, it was my understanding, that if you was to rip a CD from your collection, ITunes Match would convert it to a higher quality if needed. If you rip in a higher quality than ITunes Match produces, then I'm honestly not sure what it would do. I'm guessing that it would keep the higher quality version you ripped, but I can't confirm this one way or another since I don't have Match... Sorry about that. Chris. - Original Message - From: Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:42 PM Subject: Re: I Tunes Match. Do you know if the quality of ripped cd’s alac apple lossles audio codec is downgraded to 256kbs aac ? I have read this somewhere, but not confirmed by apple. If there is a way to not upload ripped cd’s alac quality and still use it on mac within apple music playlists on that mac within the same playlist that has aac songs matched. i.e. mixed ripped with streamed and matched in the same playlist - alac and aac, but only the aac 256kbs is sendt to the other IOS devices. Take care 6. aug. 2015 kl. 10:11 skrev Chris challswor...@icloud.com: Hi yes it does, with an Apple Music subscription you can access your matched content from the My Music section. On 06/08/2015 07:44, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Date: 6 August 2015 7:42:11 am BST To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I Tunes Match. So if you import a CD to your library, and you have the match subscription, does the music go to the cloud? On 6 Aug 2015, at 12:15 am, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, iTunes Match is now iCloud Music Library. All references to iTunes Match have been removed. The only way a reference to that will show up is if you sign out of your account, and then it’ll show up in the Account menu. On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote: Please could someone tell me where iTunes Match is as I can't find it in the latest iTunes and have looked through all the menus. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OS X beta.
You asked. All I did was truthfully answer your question. Chris. - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 4:20 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. OK, but how many people that are now in the public program really understand that. No wonder it's talked about so much on the Internet. Listen, Apple made the bed on this one, and they can deal with the consequences. I'm not going to make any further comments on this one. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You don't sign it with handwriting, but yes, you do check a box saying I agree to the terms, and to be bound by them. It may be electronic, but, who cares! You still have binded yourself into the agreement. Chris. - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:30 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. I've worked under NDA agreements. Any Indiana ever doubt with I had to sign. Are you saying the people participate in the Public Beta sign an agreement. If they do, then I understand what you were talking about if they don't, then an NDA doesn't apply. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look, If you agree to a NDA in any form before getting a beta, whether or not you understand it or agree with it, you are legally bound by the NDA. So we can discuss what should happen until we're blue in the face, but what should and what is are two totally different things. So if the NDA says no discussion, guess what that means? No discussion! On 8/6/2015 3:09 PM, Sunshine wrote: I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta means no nda. On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Diddo. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com *To:* mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commacvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.comjdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer need to have a developer account. Thus making it a public beta. NDA still applies. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. Thanks. Les On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He just wanted a general yes, or no. I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else may not really be as concerned about. Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what it's worth. Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point of being debilitating. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Sadam Ahmed mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com *To:* mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commacvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. So, where
Re: help with wordpress
Laura, If you would like to get with me off list, I'd be happy to help you. I actually teach people specifically on how to build and design their web sites with Wordpress, so believe me. I'm incredibly perficient with WP. My e-mail is: clgillan...@gmail.com Chris. - Original Message - From: Laura Bratton laurarbrat...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:26 PM Subject: help with wordpress Hi all, Does anyone have helpful resources for learning how to use wordpress with vo? I have administrative access to a wordpress website where I will need to update the content. So if anyone could give helpful resources or tips that would be great. Thank you, Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OS X beta.
Actually, Ray, I don't know what to think of tylor. One minute, he gripes at all of us, but then in another one of his posts, he says whether we like it or agree or not, NDA's NDA. If Apple says you can't discuss it, then you can't. I just wish he'd make up his mind which way he flies, once and for all. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: Mac Visionaries List Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:30 AM Subject: Re: OS X beta. Well, Chris, don't let Tylor's remark to me bother yuh. It's just Tylor being Tylor and trying to cope with the fact that he can't or won't accept Apple's nice strict NDA. People like that are why there's a delete key. Mine's gotten a fair amount of use recently. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Tylor, was that really necessary? Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:06 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you have to check a constantly barefooted box on the NDA agreement as well? On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed. That's Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really want to know, sign up for their public beta program and find out. Y'all are really something else. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta means no nda. On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Diddo. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com *To:* mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commacvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.comjdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer need to have a developer account. Thus making it a public beta. NDA still applies. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. Thanks. Les On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM,
Re: OS X beta.
Actually, you're not gonna set me off. That however being said, let me remind you that I'm not the one who started this thread in the first place. Grow up! Chris. - Original Message - From: CJ Daniel To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. Careful George, You’ll set him off again…for the umteenth time. I mean after all, when I posted this msg this thread was up to a count of 38. Oh, and about a dozen of those were from He whom shall not be mentioned. Sort of ridiculous, CJ On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote: Chris are you some kind of loney person They ask on this list not to answer with one liners, but I gess you think one words are ok to fill up peoples in boxes From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:58 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OS X beta. Yeah... I kind a wondered that same thing. Chris. - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:14 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. What are you talking about? They don’t allow anything that hasn’t been publicly divulged to be discussed. *sighs* here we go, again. On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: really, that I didn't know. That's bad then. :( Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it really doesn't matter to me. I really could care less what Apple does. But the fact that they will allow iOS nine to be discussed and not OS X, that actually reinforces my opinion. Just my two cents worth. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer need to have a developer account. Thus making it a public beta. NDA still applies. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. Thanks. Les On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He just wanted a general yes, or no. I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else may not really be as concerned about. Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what it's worth. Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point of being debilitating. Chris. - Original Message - From: Sadam Ahmed To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM Subject: Re: OS X beta. So, where in my message am I going into specifics? Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of issues. That would
team talk
Good day everyone. Is anyone using the latest team talk for the mac? It's better than what it use to be, but still needs improvement, but I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to jump to different channels? May and LD Luna Moon! www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mail filtering rules
You can use the References: and In-Reply-To: fields to axe just the part of the thread initiated by a certain condition. You just need the Message-Id of the post which you store in a list, which will expire after a month, and which your script can compare References or In-Reply-To against. This only works if the poster whose messages you want to block, or any of the followups, implement current mail RFCs and know how to do threaded conversations. This requires custom work because Sieve can’t do it, as far as I can see. I’d like to stay within Sieve rules if at all possible, so it looks like whatever I come up with will have to be a hack. Or I could just grit my teeth and continue putting up with it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: dropbox on the mac
I agree it's a bit of a pain, but it is! doable. As I said, I'm willing to help if needed, as I do it quite regularly. Chris. - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: Re: dropbox on the mac Dropbox is a program on the Mac and/or windows is usable. However, the site is crap! Whoever designed that piece of crap website, needs to be reminded they are designing for everyone, not just a certain few. I get more done with the app on my phone than I do on my computer. You can create and share a folder within the dropbox app on your phone. You do not have to deal with that God awful website. Pam Francis On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:47 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote: I am not at my mac at this moment, but interact with the folder and then v o shift m for a right click and see if there is a share in the list -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 06:28 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: dropbox on the mac Hi all, I wanted to share a folder using dropbox with a friend. Will I have to go to the website for dropbox or is there a way to do it from the folder on the Mac? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Does anyone use a USB adapter to connect to internet?
The Ethernet adaptor should indeed “Just work” when connected. Go to System Preferences, Network. Look at the Services list. How does it look? The adaptor (Thunderbolt or USB) should show as connected. If it doesn’t, then what does it show? There’s an explanatory message just under the table when the adaptor is selected. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: dropbox on the mac
Dropbox is a program on the Mac and/or windows is usable. However, the site is crap! Whoever designed that piece of crap website, needs to be reminded they are designing for everyone, not just a certain few. I get more done with the app on my phone than I do on my computer. You can create and share a folder within the dropbox app on your phone. You do not have to deal with that God awful website. Pam Francis On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:47 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote: I am not at my mac at this moment, but interact with the folder and then v o shift m for a right click and see if there is a share in the list -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 06:28 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: dropbox on the mac Hi all, I wanted to share a folder using dropbox with a friend. Will I have to go to the website for dropbox or is there a way to do it from the folder on the Mac? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
new printer
Hi all! It is time for me to buy a new toner cartridge for my printer. The printer is at least 15 years old and I've been thinking about replacing it with something wireless. The printer is an hp2100 printer. Does any body have experience with this printer or an equivalent and maybe a recommendation? Thanks, Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blocking selected senders
I use the Mac mail client Sent from my IPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 9:28 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote: For which mail client are you referring to? Mac mail, outlook on a mac, google? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 06:00 To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Blocking selected senders After the last firestorm on this list concerning the creation of a new Apple Beta list, I decided to look into blocking senders. I’m delighted to say that it’s quite easy to set up a rule for this. I just set up a rule to look for any mail “from sender X, and move it to the “trolls” mailbox, and it works like a charm. I’m also glad to say that I now understand the meaning of the word “troll” as it is used in the context of internet listers. Thank you mister X for making its meaning abundantly clear. I learn something new everyday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: help with wordpress
hi laura; my friend michael babcock is working on a bunch of videos on this very topic. drop him a line at mich...@yourownpay.com he is working towards having a comprehensive course for blind and v i word press users and he plans to offer it all for free. good luck, max Maxwell Ivey Jr. phone 979-215-1770 Skype Maxwell Ivey twitter @maxwellivey as mr. midway www.midwaymarketplace.com email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com as the blind blogger www.theblindblogger.net email just...@theblindblogger.net On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have helpful resources for learning how to use wordpress with vo? I have administrative access to a wordpress website where I will need to update the content. So if anyone could give helpful resources or tips that would be great. Thank you, Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: help with wordpress
I second this. I have worked directly with Mike billions upon billions of times. He's actually the guy who tought Me! Wordpress, so I'd very very very very! strongly and I do mean, strongly! strongly! recommend Going to Michael for help! Chris. - Original Message - From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:20 AM Subject: Re: help with wordpress hi laura; my friend michael babcock is working on a bunch of videos on this very topic. drop him a line at mich...@yourownpay.com he is working towards having a comprehensive course for blind and v i word press users and he plans to offer it all for free. good luck, max Maxwell Ivey Jr. phone 979-215-1770 Skype Maxwell Ivey twitter @maxwellivey as mr. midway www.midwaymarketplace.com email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com as the blind blogger www.theblindblogger.net email just...@theblindblogger.net On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have helpful resources for learning how to use wordpress with vo? I have administrative access to a wordpress website where I will need to update the content. So if anyone could give helpful resources or tips that would be great. Thank you, Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Blocking selected senders
After the last firestorm on this list concerning the creation of a new Apple Beta list, I decided to look into blocking senders. I’m delighted to say that it’s quite easy to set up a rule for this. I just set up a rule to look for any mail “from sender X, and move it to the “trolls” mailbox, and it works like a charm. I’m also glad to say that I now understand the meaning of the word “troll” as it is used in the context of internet listers. Thank you mister X for making its meaning abundantly clear. I learn something new everyday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Redirected to Amazon's mobile Site
Hello, For some odd reason, when I go to Amazon, I am being redirected to its mobile site, I’m assuming. I say that because it gives me this simplified interface that is not what I’m used to. How do I get back to the full site? This just started happening to me recently. -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares www.CoCreationCoaching.org http://www.cocreationcoaching.org/ Create a life of infinite possibilities! Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/cocreationcoaching http://www.facebook.com/cocreationcoaching Twitter: https://twitter.com/coachcocreation https://twitter.com/coachcocreation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OS X beta.
Chris, Most of us have already reached our conclusions with regard to you. you are pathetically out of place on the list. We do not have a moderator but if we did you would have been reduced quite a while back. If this list doesn't achieve some sort of of consistency soon, it will fall apart or cease to be a viable resource for Mac users. And Chris, you will be the main reason why. Stop to think about how you are destroying a valuable resource and put some sort of throttle on yourself. The shoeless wonder is not the problem and neither is Tyler or anyone else who occasionally expresses a little opinion. Get some psychological help and stop tormenting us. I'm reaching my limit and I'm hard to put off. Get the message and either go away or tone it down. If there is actually a moderator behind the curtain somewhere, feel free to remove me if you don't like what I say. On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:33 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, Ray, I don't know what to think of tylor. One minute, he gripes at all of us, but then in another one of his posts, he says whether we like it or agree or not, NDA's NDA. If Apple says you can't discuss it, then you can't. I just wish he'd make up his mind which way he flies, once and for all. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net To: Mac Visionaries List mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:30 AM Subject: Re: OS X beta. Well, Chris, don't let Tylor's remark to me bother yuh. It's just Tylor being Tylor and trying to cope with the fact that he can't or won't accept Apple's nice strict NDA. People like that are why there's a delete key. Mine's gotten a fair amount of use recently. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Tylor, was that really necessary? Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:06 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you have to check a constantly barefooted box on the NDA agreement as well? On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed. That's Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really want to know, sign up for their public beta program and find out. Y'all are really something else. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta means no nda. On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Diddo. Chris. - Original Message - *From:* Joe Quinn mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com *To:* mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commacvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.comkriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. Sent from my
Learning the mac
are there any ebooks, podcasts ect. that a person can use to learn the mac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: biblical greek on the mac
Oh dear. That really is too bad. I guess the walled garden can sometimes be a 5-star luxury prison. So, all voices have to go through Apple itself? I guess that's the implication. Janina Devin Prater writes: The huge, giant, Bible sized problem is, that eSpeak is not supportive of voiceover. Sure you could probably run it fine in terminal, but Then you could only read text files with it, and possibly convert them to sound files. Its really bad when some one can get a closed-source synth like Eloquence to work but not a freely open source engine like eSpeak. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Janina Sajka jan...@rednote.net wrote: Hi, I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of specific suggestions for improving pronunciation. http://espeak.sf.net I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again, I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a few centuries. hth Janina Brian Howerton writes: Hello all, I am trying to teach myself new testament greek. I was wondering if anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and things like that. Thanks, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka,Phone:+1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email:jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair,Protocols Formatshttp://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Learning the mac
There's a book, Mastering the Mac with VoiceOver, on iBooks that many people like. Plus, AppleVis offers a page of resources: http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac That page includes a lot of things, among them a series of podcasts detailing the basics of VoiceOver, guides for switchers from Windows, and plenty more. Finally, www.macfortheblind.com offers a lot of good podcasts and other content. There are more, I'm sure, but those come to mind straight away. Don't forget that Apple stores often provide one-on-one training if you want to look into that and are close enough to such a store. You can also call the accessibility phone number if you have specific questions that we can't answer here. On Aug 7, 2015, at 10:57 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: are there any ebooks, podcasts ect. that a person can use to learn the mac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
