Re: Music shortcut and repeating

[Brad Snyder]

As I said in my earlier post; I use Apple Mail, and the method Tim described 
does not work in every situation.
For example, there are certain individuals on this list who’s email address 
cannot be obtained this way.  i’m not sure why this is, but I would think it 
has something to do with the email client being used by the sender.
I brought this up only to point out that sometimes there may be a situation 
where the sender’s email address cannot be obtained.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 04:32, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Brad 
 
In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.
 
Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating
 
I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Brad,
 
Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
 
This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi Petrus,
 
On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:
 
• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.
 
The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a “once” 
parameter to the “play” method, if you set this to true, it should override 
whatever is in the user interface.
Of course the JavaScript version of the scripting methods should also accept 
this as a parameter, but I haven’t tested especially in a modern system that 
has the Music application instead of iTunes.
Jonathan
 


On May 21, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
solution. However now when I invoke the shortcut it will play the track and 
then repeat it again. This has only happened in the last week or so. I can’t 
remember changing anything in my settings but I might have done.
I thought about using the song as an alarm but it is 20 minutes long and the 
alarm stops after 10 minutes.  
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
 
 
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Re: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

i do prefer drives that have their own power cord when buying new ones some of 
the drives that have just a USB connector have been ,easily damaged in my 
carel. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yes i have used diskutil but not sure  what other tools to use.
> I was thinking of going thunderbolt instead of usb but its a bit  expensive.
> /A
> 
>> 26 maj 2020 kl. 11:19 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
>> 
>> Have you checked the status of the Usb external drive?
>> 
>> Spinning drives will die after time,
>> 
>> I'd be looking at the drives life status using some form of diagnostic tools.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:38 AM
>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Odd issue with external harddisk.
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 
>> 7 port usb 3 hub.
>> For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the 
>> usb hub.
>> When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
>> THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering if 
>> the hub begins to fail.
>> I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
>> All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so i 
>> am not sure what’s going on really.
>> I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
>> But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
>> /A
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RE: Twitterrific for Mac?

[matthew dyer]

I,

Have it on my mac mini and it wporks with no problem all though I have not used 
in a while, but had no problems with it last time I tried it.

Matthew


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Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 3:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Twitterrific for Mac?

Hey all, looking around the app store for a Twitter client that will work on 
High Sierra. Twitterrific fits the bill. Anyone use this on the Mac? Could you 
give some feedback on your experience?

In the mean time, I’ve installed Friendly for Twitter, but I’m not loving it. 
Lol

Thanks,
Traci 

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Re: Music shortcut and repeating

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Basically, you are correct.  Seldom does anything work all of the time.  
Although, I still maintain that these sorts of comments are unnecessary 
complications.  If the process I outlined did not work, then we would have 
given people another option, such as using cmd-shift-h to display the complete 
header information where it is likely that the address would be visible.  Yes, 
Thunderbird on Windows does handle the header information differently, so it is 
not as easy to get the sender’s address, but it can be done if desired.

Have a good one.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

As I said in my earlier post; I use Apple Mail, and the method Tim described 
does not work in every situation.
For example, there are certain individuals on this list who’s email address 
cannot be obtained this way.  i’m not sure why this is, but I would think it 
has something to do with the email client being used by the sender.
I brought this up only to point out that sometimes there may be a situation 
where the sender’s email address cannot be obtained.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 04:32, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Brad 
 
In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.
 
Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating
 
I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Brad,
 
Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
 
This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi Petrus,
 
On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:
 
• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.
 
The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a “once” 
parameter to the “play” method, if you set this to true, it should override 
whatever is in the user interface.
Of course the JavaScript version of the scripting methods should also accept 
this as a parameter, but I haven’t tested especially in a modern system that 
has the Music application instead of iTunes.
Jonathan
 


On May 21, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
solution. However now when I 

Re: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I’ve just ordered a new thunderbolt drive.
Its a 5 tb LaCie drive with usb c and thunderbolt.
/A

> 26 maj 2020 kl. 14:58 skrev Jonathan C. Cohn :
> 
> i do prefer drives that have their own power cord when buying new ones some 
> of the drives that have just a USB connector have been ,easily damaged in my 
> carel. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yes i have used diskutil but not sure  what other tools to use.
>> I was thinking of going thunderbolt instead of usb but its a bit  expensive.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 26 maj 2020 kl. 11:19 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
>>> 
>>> Have you checked the status of the Usb external drive?
>>> 
>>> Spinning drives will die after time,
>>> 
>>> I'd be looking at the drives life status using some form of diagnostic 
>>> tools.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:38 AM
>>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: Odd issue with external harddisk.
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 
>>> 7 port usb 3 hub.
>>> For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the 
>>> usb hub.
>>> When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
>>> THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering 
>>> if the hub begins to fail.
>>> I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
>>> All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so 
>>> i am not sure what’s going on really.
>>> I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
>>> But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
>>> /A
>>> 
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RE: Music shortcut and repeating

[Simon A Fogarty]

And he’s come back to say it works so great.

And Tim on behalf of the list,
Thanks, your knowledge is outstanding.



From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating

Brad,

Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:

• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.

The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a “once” 
parameter to the “play” method, if you set this to true, it should override 
whatever is in the user interface.
Of course the JavaScript version of the scripting methods should also accept 
this as a parameter, but I haven’t tested especially in a modern system that 
has the Music application instead of iTunes.
Jonathan



On May 21, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
solution. However now when I invoke the shortcut it will play the track and 
then repeat it again. This has only happened in the last week or so. I can’t 
remember changing anything in my settings but I might have done.
I thought about using the song as an alarm but it is 20 minutes long and the 
alarm stops after 10 minutes.
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Turning off Voice Over and on your Apple Watch.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi There.

Today I turned on my watch and voice over didn’t pick up the icons on some of 
my watch such as heart rate and breathe.  So I decided to turn off Voice over 
and turn it back on.  It resolved the problem.  So next time this happens 
regardless of what voice over is not picking up, just try this method.  It 
didn’t use to work but it’s happening now.

Regards, Kawal.

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RE: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have you checked the status of the Usb external drive?

 Spinning drives will die after time,

I'd be looking at the drives life status using some form of diagnostic tools.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:38 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Odd issue with external harddisk.

Hi!
I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 7 
port usb 3 hub.
For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the usb 
hub.
When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering if 
the hub begins to fail.
I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so i am 
not sure what’s going on really.
I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
/A

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Re: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
THe power is on and the computer does not indicates any problem.
I better get me a mac mini that has more ports i guess.
/A

> 25 maj 2020 kl. 20:50 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Does your USB port have a power connector, and if so is it currently on? I 
> would expect that to be the most probable problem, though generally, when I 
> plug in a USB device that the computer cannot provide enough power for, the 
> computer will put up a dialog box indicating so.
> Also, I am fairly  certain that modern USB hubs cannot only  support USB-3, 
> but the one my office provided me isolates the USB-2 devices from the usb-3 
> devices in order to provide better performance.
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
>> On May 25, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 
>> 7 port usb 3 hub.
>> For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the 
>> usb hub.
>> When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
>> THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering if 
>> the hub begins to fail.
>> I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
>> All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so i 
>> am not sure what’s going on really.
>> I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
>> But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
>> /A
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RE: Music shortcut and repeating

[Simon A Fogarty]

Brad

In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.

Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating

I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Brad,

Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:

• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.

The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a “once” 
parameter to the “play” method, if you set this to true, it should override 
whatever is in the user interface.
Of course the JavaScript version of the scripting methods should also accept 
this as a parameter, but I haven’t tested especially in a modern system that 
has the Music application instead of iTunes.
Jonathan



On May 21, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
solution. However now when I invoke the shortcut it will play the track and 
then repeat it again. This has only happened in the last week or so. I can’t 
remember changing anything in my settings but I might have done.
I thought about using the song as an alarm but it is 20 minutes long and the 
alarm stops after 10 minutes.
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i have used diskutil but not sure  what other tools to use.
I was thinking of going thunderbolt instead of usb but its a bit  expensive.
/A

> 26 maj 2020 kl. 11:19 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
> 
> Have you checked the status of the Usb external drive?
> 
> Spinning drives will die after time,
> 
> I'd be looking at the drives life status using some form of diagnostic tools.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:38 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Odd issue with external harddisk.
> 
> Hi!
> I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 7 
> port usb 3 hub.
> For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the usb 
> hub.
> When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
> THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering if 
> the hub begins to fail.
> I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
> All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so i 
> am not sure what’s going on really.
> I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
> But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
> /A
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RE: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Disk util is fine for a basic scan / look at what's happening,

 You could do a first aid on it and see if it finds anything of concern on the 
drive,

The other thing is that if the cable for the external drive is removeable then 
possibly you should try another cable if not a complete drive bay as they do 
some times cause problems.

Good luck.

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Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 9:39 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Odd issue with external harddisk.

Hi!
Yes i have used diskutil but not sure  what other tools to use.
I was thinking of going thunderbolt instead of usb but its a bit  expensive.
/A

> 26 maj 2020 kl. 11:19 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
> 
> Have you checked the status of the Usb external drive?
> 
> Spinning drives will die after time,
> 
> I'd be looking at the drives life status using some form of diagnostic tools.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:38 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Odd issue with external harddisk.
> 
> Hi!
> I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 7 
> port usb 3 hub.
> For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the usb 
> hub.
> When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
> THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering if 
> the hub begins to fail.
> I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
> All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so i 
> am not sure what’s going on really.
> I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
> But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
> /A
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Assistance with getting to subscribe folders using I Cloud in MS Outlook and accessing the Global rules on I Cloud.com please.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello.

I have a few issues that is really driving me mad as I could do both these 
things once before but it’s not happening at the moment.  I cannot remember how 
to do it.

This has to parts so this is going to be a long email!

1.  I would like to subscribe folders to my Microsoft Outlook as sometimes I 
use it on all three platforms as I have just acquired the ELBraille.

Anyway, I know the query button which you need to press is within the Imap 
settings but I can’t find it.

So in the end for example, my Macvisionary folder will show up in my folder 
tree view. 

2.  I wanted to add another global rule using iCloud.com because the advantage 
of that is it doesn’t matter how you access your emails it’s the same on all 
platforms.

3.  I have done it a few times on iCloud.com but it’s hit and miss using Voice 
over.  If anyone has a method of doing it which works every time with that, 
please do let me know.  I almost did it yesterday but I kept cancelling the 
rule so any help would be appreciated.

Before anyone says use Google, it’s never explained from a Voice Over 
prospective but I know what to do but it’s not happening yet!

Thanks for all your help.

Kawal.

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Re: iPhone X questions.

[Jonathan Cohn]

I was just reading a CNet article about  charging today. The general 
recommendation was to ry and keep your battery between 30-80% charged for 
maximum battery life. It also mentioned that the quick chargers are designed to 
push a lot of charge initially and then reduce the charging as the battery gets 
closer to full. I think they were saying when you don't need the full life of 
the battery, a 30 minute charge with a quick charger should give you 50% charge.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 26, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’m looking at possibly upgrading from my iPhone 7+ that I’ve had about 3 
> years, to the iPhone XR, which, to my understanding, has better battery 
> life/camera resolution than the new iPhone SE, which I originally was 
> thinking about getting.  For those who have this model, in your opinion, is 
> it better to get a wireless charger for this device, or just have a back up 
> batter charger/juice pack case for it instead?
>  I honestly know nothing about charging a device wirelessly, and it almost 
> sounds like it would actually degrade your battery faster, but would love to 
> hear everyone else’s thoughts.
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Re: iPhone X questions.

[Jessica Moss]

Interesting, do you currently own the iPhone X, and if so, could you please 
give me some pointers on getting started with it?

> On May 26, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I was just reading a CNet article about  charging today. The general 
> recommendation was to ry and keep your battery between 30-80% charged for 
> maximum battery life. It also mentioned that the quick chargers are designed 
> to push a lot of charge initially and then reduce the charging as the battery 
> gets closer to full. I think they were saying when you don't need the full 
> life of the battery, a 30 minute charge with a quick charger should give you 
> 50% charge.
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Jessica Moss > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m looking at possibly upgrading from my iPhone 7+ that I’ve had about 3 
>> years, to the iPhone XR, which, to my understanding, has better battery 
>> life/camera resolution than the new iPhone SE, which I originally was 
>> thinking about getting.  For those who have this model, in your opinion, is 
>> it better to get a wireless charger for this device, or just have a back up 
>> batter charger/juice pack case for it instead?
>>  I honestly know nothing about charging a device wirelessly, and it almost 
>> sounds like it would actually degrade your battery faster, but would love to 
>> hear everyone else’s thoughts.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

I am also happy to help with this if that would be useful - Tim you have my 
email for zoom so if you are setting something up and it would be helpful for 
me to join so I can be the spare computer then just let me know  

> On 26 May 2020, at 17:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> hi,
> 
> Donna and Paul.  If you’re still interested in a Zoom session to learn more 
> Zoom management and such, contact me off-list please.  My address for this 
> would be kilbu...@me.com .
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 7:18 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I would too. It can be hard to figure things out when you are in a meeting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Paul Parravano > > wrote:
>> 
>>  I’d be very happy to participate in such a gathering, to practice various 
>> Zoom features with the Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 19:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I agree.  I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom.  I haven’t 
>>> found the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can 
>>> mute the chat announcements.  If you wish, and have time, we can set up a 
>>> Zoom meeting and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend 
>>> we’re smarter during the meetings we host or participate in.
>>> 
>>> Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work 
>>> for us.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a 
>>> meeting 
>>> 
 On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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 Julie, 
 
 I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  > wrote:
> 
> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
> maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to 
> choose who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search 
> field and that is where you typed?
> 
> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
> 
> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone 
> in a zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I 
> identify if others had?
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a 
>> chat to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I 
>> thought I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go 
>> back in to the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there 
>> and it didn’t send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key 
>> strokes to send chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can 
>> mute and unmute myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Deleting Time Macine Backups

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Hi,

Did just nothing happen, or id it seem like something was happening, but really 
nothing did?  I’ve never actually done it that way.  After replacing drives, 
I’ve started a new backup.  I’m wondering if the “Delete Old Backups” item 
there that you’re referring to only deletes old backups before the newest most 
backup, so there is always one left behind.  I’ll have to think about this some 
more and do some testing.  Good question.

Later…


Later…


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  I added an APFS volume to the TM exclusion list. Now I want to delete the old 
backups for that volume. How? I found it in the sidebar and from the context 
menu, select delete but this is not working. Thanks.

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Re: Deleting Time Macine Backups

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim,
   It may have worked. The first attempt, I forgot to check disk space 
but second time I did and afterwards, some space was freed up. But I may 
just wipe the drive and start fresh.


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On 5/26/2020 12:17 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Did just nothing happen, or id it seem like something was happening, but 
really nothing did?  I’ve never actually done it that way.  After 
replacing drives, I’ve started a new backup.  I’m wondering if the 
“Delete Old Backups” item there that you’re referring to only deletes 
old backups before the newest most backup, so there is always one left 
behind.  I’ll have to think about this some more and do some testing. 
  Good question.


Later…


Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> wrote:


   I added an APFS volume to the TM exclusion list. Now I want to delete 
the old backups for that volume. How? I found it in the sidebar and from 
the context menu, select delete but this is not working. Thanks.


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iPhone X questions.

[Jessica Moss]

I’m looking at possibly upgrading from my iPhone 7+ that I’ve had about 3 
years, to the iPhone XR, which, to my understanding, has better battery 
life/camera resolution than the new iPhone SE, which I originally was thinking 
about getting.  For those who have this model, in your opinion, is it better to 
get a wireless charger for this device, or just have a back up batter 
charger/juice pack case for it instead?
  I honestly know nothing about charging a device wirelessly, and it almost 
sounds like it would actually degrade your battery faster, but would love to 
hear everyone else’s thoughts.

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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

hi,

Donna and Paul.  If you’re still interested in a Zoom session to learn more 
Zoom management and such, contact me off-list please.  My address for this 
would be kilbu...@me.com.

Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 7:18 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I would too. It can be hard to figure things out when you are in a meeting.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 22, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Paul Parravano  wrote:
> 
>  I’d be very happy to participate in such a gathering, to practice various 
> Zoom features with the Mac.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 19:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree.  I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom.  I haven’t 
>> found the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can 
>> mute the chat announcements.  If you wish, and have time, we can set up a 
>> Zoom meeting and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend 
>> we’re smarter during the meetings we host or participate in.
>> 
>> Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work 
>> for us.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray > > wrote:
>> 
>> I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a 
>> meeting 
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Julie, 
>>> 
>>> I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray >>> > wrote:
 
 Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
 maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to 
 choose who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search 
 field and that is where you typed?
 
 I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
 
 For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in 
 a zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I 
 identify if others had?
 
> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a 
> chat to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I 
> thought I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go 
> back in to the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there 
> and it didn’t send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key 
> strokes to send chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can 
> mute and unmute myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Music shortcut and repeating

[Brad Snyder]

No pissing match intended.  I am not trying to bring up un-necessary 
complications.  I mention this only because the method you describe does not 
work in all situations.  As I said, your own email address is not visible on my 
end in the last several post, and this is the case whether or not full header 
information is displayed.  Not sure why this is, but I felt it was important to 
bring up for those who are less technically minded than you or I.

That’s it, so let's move on.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 11:20, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Brad,

I was not dismissing your comments.  As I mentioned, I believe that you’re 
simply adding unnecessary complications.  I’m not interested in getting into a 
pissing match.  Yes, there are some situations where the method I outlined does 
not display an eMail address in a pop-up menu.  Yes, I did test this on eMails 
that remain in my InBox, and if the outlined method does not present the pop-up 
menu, then a cmd-shift-h displaying more detailed header information does 
contain the eMail address.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

Using Apple Mail on Catalina, your email address is not able to be viewed in 
your last post.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 10:23, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Basically, you are correct.  Seldom does anything work all of the time.  
Although, I still maintain that these sorts of comments are unnecessary 
complications.  If the process I outlined did not work, then we would have 
given people another option, such as using cmd-shift-h to display the complete 
header information where it is likely that the address would be visible.  Yes, 
Thunderbird on Windows does handle the header information differently, so it is 
not as easy to get the sender’s address, but it can be done if desired.

Have a good one.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

As I said in my earlier post; I use Apple Mail, and the method Tim described 
does not work in every situation.
For example, there are certain individuals on this list who’s email address 
cannot be obtained this way.  i’m not sure why this is, but I would think it 
has something to do with the email client being used by the sender.
I brought this up only to point out that sometimes there may be a situation 
where the sender’s email address cannot be obtained.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 04:32, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Brad 
 
In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.
 
Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating
 
I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Brad,
 
Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
 
This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi Petrus,
 
On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:
 
• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.
 
The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the 

RE: Odd issue with external harddisk.

[Karen Lewellen]

Simon,
are there some external hard drive brands,USB wise I mean, that are more 
mac happy then others?

Kare



On Tue, 26 May 2020, Simon A Fogarty wrote:


Disk util is fine for a basic scan / look at what's happening,

You could do a first aid on it and see if it finds anything of concern on the 
drive,

The other thing is that if the cable for the external drive is removeable then 
possibly you should try another cable if not a complete drive bay as they do 
some times cause problems.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 9:39 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Odd issue with external harddisk.

Hi!
Yes i have used diskutil but not sure  what other tools to use.
I was thinking of going thunderbolt instead of usb but its a bit  expensive.
/A


26 maj 2020 kl. 11:19 skrev Simon A Fogarty :

Have you checked the status of the Usb external drive?

Spinning drives will die after time,

I'd be looking at the drives life status using some form of diagnostic tools.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:38 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Odd issue with external harddisk.

Hi!
I have a samsung external spinning harddrive which i normally connects to a 7 
port usb 3 hub.
For some reason the drive does not work any more when i connect it to the usb 
hub.
When i connect it to the mac directly it doesn’t.
THough it has worked when i connected it to the usb hub so i am wondering if 
the hub begins to fail.
I actually have tried another usb 3 cable but it did not work.
All other devices works like a charm when they are connected to the hub so i am 
not sure what’s going on really.
I  am trying to find a thunderbolt hub with usb 3 ports.
But i am not sure if such a beast exists.
/A

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Re: Music shortcut and repeating

[Brad Snyder]

Tim,

Using Apple Mail on Catalina, your email address is not able to be viewed in 
your last post.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 10:23, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Basically, you are correct.  Seldom does anything work all of the time.  
Although, I still maintain that these sorts of comments are unnecessary 
complications.  If the process I outlined did not work, then we would have 
given people another option, such as using cmd-shift-h to display the complete 
header information where it is likely that the address would be visible.  Yes, 
Thunderbird on Windows does handle the header information differently, so it is 
not as easy to get the sender’s address, but it can be done if desired.

Have a good one.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

As I said in my earlier post; I use Apple Mail, and the method Tim described 
does not work in every situation.
For example, there are certain individuals on this list who’s email address 
cannot be obtained this way.  i’m not sure why this is, but I would think it 
has something to do with the email client being used by the sender.
I brought this up only to point out that sometimes there may be a situation 
where the sender’s email address cannot be obtained.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 04:32, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Brad 
 
In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.
 
Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating
 
I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Brad,
 
Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
 
This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi Petrus,
 
On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:
 
• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.
 
The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a “once” 
parameter to the “play” method, if you set this to true, it should override 
whatever is in the user interface.
Of course the JavaScript version of the scripting methods should also accept 
this as a parameter, but I haven’t tested especially in a modern system that 
has the Music application instead of iTunes.
Jonathan
 


On May 21, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings 

Re: Music shortcut and repeating

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Brad,

I was not dismissing your comments.  As I mentioned, I believe that you’re 
simply adding unnecessary complications.  I’m not interested in getting into a 
pissing match.  Yes, there are some situations where the method I outlined does 
not display an eMail address in a pop-up menu.  Yes, I did test this on eMails 
that remain in my InBox, and if the outlined method does not present the pop-up 
menu, then a cmd-shift-h displaying more detailed header information does 
contain the eMail address.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

Using Apple Mail on Catalina, your email address is not able to be viewed in 
your last post.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 10:23, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Basically, you are correct.  Seldom does anything work all of the time.  
Although, I still maintain that these sorts of comments are unnecessary 
complications.  If the process I outlined did not work, then we would have 
given people another option, such as using cmd-shift-h to display the complete 
header information where it is likely that the address would be visible.  Yes, 
Thunderbird on Windows does handle the header information differently, so it is 
not as easy to get the sender’s address, but it can be done if desired.

Have a good one.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

As I said in my earlier post; I use Apple Mail, and the method Tim described 
does not work in every situation.
For example, there are certain individuals on this list who’s email address 
cannot be obtained this way.  i’m not sure why this is, but I would think it 
has something to do with the email client being used by the sender.
I brought this up only to point out that sometimes there may be a situation 
where the sender’s email address cannot be obtained.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 04:32, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Brad 
 
In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.
 
Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating
 
I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Brad,
 
Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
 
This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi Petrus,
 
On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:
 
• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.
 
The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a 

Re: Music shortcut and repeating

[Brad Snyder]

What I am referring to has nothing to do with whether or not the header is 
displayed.
Rather than dismiss me, you should investigate for yourself.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 10:23, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Basically, you are correct.  Seldom does anything work all of the time.  
Although, I still maintain that these sorts of comments are unnecessary 
complications.  If the process I outlined did not work, then we would have 
given people another option, such as using cmd-shift-h to display the complete 
header information where it is likely that the address would be visible.  Yes, 
Thunderbird on Windows does handle the header information differently, so it is 
not as easy to get the sender’s address, but it can be done if desired.

Have a good one.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

As I said in my earlier post; I use Apple Mail, and the method Tim described 
does not work in every situation.
For example, there are certain individuals on this list who’s email address 
cannot be obtained this way.  i’m not sure why this is, but I would think it 
has something to do with the email client being used by the sender.
I brought this up only to point out that sometimes there may be a situation 
where the sender’s email address cannot be obtained.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2020, at 04:32, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Brad 
 
In this case it has worked and you could be right yes,
But the lists or email services providing your lists may not allow to see 
headers.
 
Anyway both petrus and mine have worked this time which is what was required.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Music shortcut and repeating
 
I use Apple Mail, and I can assure you that it does not work all of the time.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 18:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Brad,
 
Petrus uses Apple Mail.  thus, this works all of the time.  I realize that 
processes are different depending on the client you’re using, but no need to 
complicate matters.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
 
Tim,
 
This method works most of the time, but not all of the time.  There are some on 
this list who’s email address shows as the address of the list.
I assume this is a function of whatever email client they use and/or how they 
have setup their client.

- Brad -

 
On May 25, 2020, at 15:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi Petrus,
 
On the Mac, you can figure out someone’s eMail address by doing the following:
 
• navigate to the message.
• press return on it.
• VO-left and VO should announce Message Headers.
• Interact with the Message Headers.
• VO-right to hear the name of the person.
• interact with that area.
• VO-space on the person’s name and a menu should pop-up.
 
The first item in that menu is their eMail address.  The second item allows you 
to copy the eMail address to the clipboard so you can paste it into an eMail.  
A few things to note, if VO-space does not bring up the menu, then you may need 
to interact one more time, or stop interacting one time.  It’s pretty important 
to be at the right level to bring up the menu.
 
Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On May 25, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks, got it all sorted now. I was going to reply to Anders off list with 
some more song suggestions that are over 10 minutes but haven’t worked out how 
to find his address yet.


On 26/05/2020, at 07:08, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hello,
If you used AppleScript to create this shortcut, then there is a “once” 
parameter to the “play” method, if you set this to true, it should override 
whatever is in the user interface.
Of course the JavaScript version of the scripting methods should also accept 
this as a parameter, but I haven’t tested especially in a modern system that 
has the Music application instead of iTunes.
Jonathan
 


On May 21, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to 

My Global rules is sorted.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi All.

After 12 hours of persevering, I have sorted out my global rules.  It was hard.

Now it’s just my folders on Imap using outlook, just wish to know how to do 
this as I’m using iCloud mail.

Thanks for your help.

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