Re: PDF reader for Mac?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have seen some postings that seem to indicate some  kind of built in OCR in 
Catalina. I have not investigated this.
Jonathan


> On Jan 30, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Raoul,
> Docuscan Plus, Abbey Fine Reader, or Prizmo. I think that’s it, unless you 
> install VMWare Fusion and set up your Windows programs like Openbook in the 
> operating system.
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Re: Books on Mac going busy

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Hmm, I wonder if it will be worse when you get 90% through the book. It would 
be interesting to bookmark your current location and jump forward .
Try just being patient with VoiceOVer and seeing if it consistently becomes 
unbusy after a specific time.
Jonathan 
 

> On Jan 31, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> Thanks Jonathan, that distinction is helpful. The busy is happening about 180 
> pages into a 300 page book which has no dynamic content I am sure. Also there 
> is very little else open and running on the MacBook error when this happens. 
> I’ll just keep an ion it and see how things go Sent from my IPhone
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>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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>> I personally have never experienced Books going busy, but when VO says 
>> busy, it means that the application is not speaking properly to VO, not 
>> necessary illy that the app is doing
>> too much work. If for example VO asks for every thing ,in a 900 page book, 
>> that could cause a busy. Also I wonder what happens if there is dynamic 
>> content in the book. In early versions of Safari, asking for a list of links 
>> on aweb site that had refreshing ads would cause a never ending busy.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:51 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> When you buy a book, and open it on the Mac, the book is downloaded. 
>>> Besides that, I can only advise you to close other apps before opening the 
>>> Books app, and see if that helps.
>>> 
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my IPhone I’m having a little trouble with Books app on Mac 
 going busy from time to time without any apparent reason. There’s no great 
 surge in processor or fan but it just goes busy. I’m wondering, are the 
 books that I buy through thebooks App Store stored on my Mac locally or 
 are they in a cloud?  and, might the fact that they’re in the cloud have 
 something to do with a busy activity.
 
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Re: Can't log into Macbook Air

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It is slightly possible that your account has not been enabled for File vault 
logins. I remembered there being a dialog in ElCapitan systems where one could 
list the users that were allowed to login at the file vault screen or something 
similar to that. I couldn’t find that. But in any case, when you here 
“Username” you should be able to type your username except the Macintosh won’t 
speak what you type.
 

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
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> I have access to a Macbook Air at my job. It has several logins enabled on 
> it, including mine. But when I turn it on, all I can get it to say at the 
> login screen is "user name". I've pressed every key and key combination I can 
> think of and I can't get it to let me log in. I need to get to the users 
> scroll area so I can select my user name and enter my password.
> 
> Twice now, I've gotten sighted assistance to log in but the people who have 
> helped me seem to think ther's nothing wrong. In other words, I can't get a 
> solid answer from them on how to avoid this problem in the future.
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Re: How to stop and start recording within the same file using Quicktime?

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Donna,
Quicktime does respond to pause and resume commands from Apple Automation, I 
could easily create these if you want to try and have more flexibility about 
the keystrokes to pause / resume recording. I didn’t test things out, but they 
would probably just be 1 liners.
“tell application “quicktime” to pause 

and 
tell application “quicktime” to resume 
 

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Re: Safari on a Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

I can’t test this right now, but there is a checkbox for autofill password and 
user names in the Password area of the Safari preferences.


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is there a way to prevent Safari from suggesting a password when I'm signing 
> up for something on a website? I don't like using those because I can't 
> really read them letter by letter to write them down. of course I can press 
> "don't use" but they keep popping up.
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Re: Writing Documents using Catalina

[Jonathan Cohn]

I don't pay much attention to mark up languages other then HTML these days, but 
the most common one of use is "markdown".
I have heard good reviews of Ulysses https://ulysses.app <https://ulysses.app/> 
 before. I know it has a subscription based model, but it is also included in a 
bundle of applications that costs about the same as Microsoft Office. 
 
    Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Many thanks for the suggestions on this. However I am now more confused!
> 
> When I worked on software manuals I used a mark up language with notation 
> like….
> :h1.Heading textto denote a heading level 1
> :h2.Heading test  to denote a heading level 2 and so on
> :p.to start a new paragraph
> :ol. to start an ordered list which is terminated by :eol.
> :ul and :eul to denote the start and end of a bulleted list 
> :li.to denote a list item
> and various more complicated mark up tags but the above would do most of what 
> I need.
> 
> I was hoping that there is a similar mark up notation on the Mac. Something 
> like txt2tags looks like it might do the job as a mark up notation.
> 
> Having created my source document using a standard text editor and a suitable 
> mark up notation I then want a way to convert it to PDF or DOCX to pass onto 
> others.
> 
> I looked at pandoc which seemed to do the above and despite the warnings 
> about Apple not being able to check it out for malicious software I installed 
> pandoc. I was  hoping to then find some basic help on how to use pandoc but 
> did not see this. Instead I saw a menu with items like Terminal and Shell and 
> became very confused.
> 
> I also looked at LateC in the Mac App store which was equally confusing as to 
> what I actually needed to install if I wanted to go the markdown and LateX 
> route. However that seems more powerful and expensive than I need.
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> I would appreciate a bit more advice on what to do.
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: setting time / date from terminal

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Don't forget to turn off any NTP stuff then… Or if you are using NTP, but the 
clock is too far off for an initial set, then you should be able to use ntpdate 
to set the clock based off of a NTP server. 
Jonathan

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> Can someone remind me of the correct command to set the date and time on a 
> machine using the terminal?
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> I’m sure I have it right but it’s not staying changed.
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Re: Layout issues using VoiceOver

[Jonathan Cohn]

I don't know how you are doing these things on a Windows machine. In Mac, the 
VoiceOver command control-option-command-F3 will tell you information about the 
item in the VoiceOver cursor. Each time you press the keystroke it provides 
different information. Obviously not a great keyboard combo but if it works for 
you somebody on list can give instructions on adjusting one of the commanders 
to give you quicker access to that command.
Jonathan
 
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> On Feb 10, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Maybe someone else can answer, but I don't think Voiceover could do what you 
> need.
> I myself am a web developer, web programmer, and a System Administrator.
> I usually use my Windows 7 laptop to perform any web designing tasks myself.
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Re: using email tips

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Hello,
To the best of my knowledge there is no VoiceOver or Apple Automation commands 
to manage the “pasteboard” used for copy and pasting, so you would not be able 
to use the numbed commander to do these commands with or without AppleScript. 
If you don’t like the standard command X, Y,C keystrokes you should be able to 
re-assign them in Keyboard system preferences.
Oh, I suppose you could use a “System Events”AppleScript command to do the 
keystrokes you want.


> On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:21 AM, hemaka...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi Aleeha,
>  
> I also discovered the remarkable VO J keystroke. It comfortably enables me to 
> alternate between message table and the body of the message.
>  
> I am also looking for some tips on using the numpad and trackpad commander. 
> For example, can I assign copy and paste functions to a numpad key stroke.
>  
> Take care,
> Hem.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: 06 February 2020 02:31
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: using email tips
>  
> Hi, 
> One of the easiest ways to attach a file to an email is to find it in your 
> finder,  copy it to the clipboard, and paste it into the message body of the 
> email. 
> I hope that helps. 
> Aleeha 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:53 PM, > > > > wrote:
>>  
>> Dear all,
>>  
>> I am still figuring out how to use email on Mac. I will be grateful if 
>> someone could help me know the following:
>> 1 important keystrokes for navigating between the fields on email
>> 2 Keystrokes for mail composition
>> And 3 easy way for attaching files.
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Re: customising VO

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, not really VoiceOver configuration, but I usually turn off LaunchPad and 
mission control keyboard shortcuts. Some of these override VoiceOver shortcuts 
and some are just annoying. They are in the Keyboard system settings panel.


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> Should I customize VO settings so that Mac works great? For example, should I 
> let mouse cursor follow VO cursor? Is there anything else that I should 
> enable?
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Bluetooth keyboards and Web sites in IOS

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Is there anyway to simulate a what the tab key does in web pages on Computers 
while using a Bluetooth keyboard connected to an iPad? There has been some 
mention of “Full keyboard Access” in the accessibility menus, but I can’t find 
that. 
Thanks!
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Re: Accessibility of duolingo or similar software on iPhone

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I stopped using DuoLingo after my trip last May, but in the year prior to that 
it was constantly getting better for me to use. Especially with Braille 
support. Around Jan 2019 they put in features that made keyboard input switch 
languages based on if the answer was supposed to be in Hebrew or English. I 
also saw general progress in the advertising screens being less troublesome. 
When I first was using DuoLingo, when I got a spinner to get a “prize” I 
couldn’t activate it with VoiceOVer, and when I received an advertisement, I 
would just wait a day to use the app again, or click on No more ads and then 
click on “No Thanks” for the option to pay $5/month to get no ads.
HTH,
Jonathan
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Re: Mail Rule for Auto-Forwarding

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I’m sure that I could create or help you create an AppleScript to send that 
attachment  through using a AppleScript based rule. I haven’t done anything 
like that but I know what all the code points would be.


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> I’ve broached this subject before. I’m still having no luck in creating a 
> mail rule to automatically forward a message that arrives in my inbox each 
> morning. I have no problems creating rules, and have several that move 
> messages to various folders.
> For the auto forward, I have no problem setting up the criteria, but in the 
> action section is where I think the problem lies. I select the pop-up for 
> forward and then type in the recipient’s email (which is correctly typed). 
> Then like any other rule I select OK and then Apply.
> But the rule never works, even after editing or completely removing and 
> re-building. This message does have an attachment, which I want to have 
> forwarded, but there seems to be no provision for anticipating this in my 
> choice of actions.
> Has anyone else been able to construct a rule to do an auto forward?
> .
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Re: Controlling books on OS X with voice commands

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Well, I can’t test here..
1. If buttons are properly labeled, one is supposed to be able to click on them 
with VOice Commander by just saying the appropriate phrase.

That being said, the Books application is one of those that is essentially a 
IOS application wrapped in MacOS clothes, so I have no idea if this will cause 
some issues. Specifically, I know that Books has no Apple Automation 
integration and can therefore only be marginally controlled with AppleScript.

 

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> Sent from my IPhone
> Is it possible to control the reading of a book in the Books app via voice 
> commands, rather than keystroke commands. for example, saying next sentence, 
> or prior sentence etc.?
> Reading sentence by sentence on a apple Bluetooth keyboard is killing my 
> hands, enflaming a carpal tunnel  Problem. I’m running the latest Catalina on 
> a 2013 MacBook Air.
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> Please be as specific as possible as to the how, when and where of it.
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Re: Searching a specific folder for a specific file type on the mac

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If you type "zip" into the search field and then press down arrow a couple of 
times you should find a menu item for zip archive. Also note that unlike Unix 
and Google searches, apple meta data searches can accept partial words. 
HTH!

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> changed the search function. I want to search a specific folder and find all 
> of the files that end with .zip. I can not make this happen. It seems like it 
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Re: Editing and comporessing videos

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I understand that Quicktime can join videos together and I have also seen 
references to compression techniques in its AppleScript dictionary. 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> and also compressing them to be able to upload to youtube, is there an 
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Markup / markdown editor

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>From This weeks Top Tech Tidbits…

This app purports to be more powerful than others and is accessible:
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Re: Searching a specific folder for a specific file type on the mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
I was doing this with command-F while in a finder window. Once you have a 
selector picked, you should be able to find a radio button group to select 
entire computer, home directory or current folder.
Jonathan


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 15, 2020, at 10:27 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> The problem I have is restricting it to a specific folder. If I use 
> command+spacebar, I can't do this, but it doesn't seem to work if I do the 
> command=option+f command either. How do you just get it to look in the fokder 
> you are in currently?
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> If you type "zip" into the search field and then press down arrow a couple of 
> times you should find a menu item for zip archive. Also note that unlike Unix 
> and Google searches, apple meta data searches can accept partial words. 
> HTH!
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
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>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> I have been trying to figure out a way to do this for awhile now, since they 
>> changed the search function. I want to search a specific folder and find all 
>> of the files that end with .zip. I can not make this happen. It seems like 
>> it should be possible. What am I not doing correctly
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
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Re: Controlling books on OS X with voice commands

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OK, It appears all quicknav alphanumeric functions do not work in Books.trying 
with Stops app, I get exactly the same behavior so for both of the Applications 
using the new interface allowing simultaneous development of IOS and MacOS app, 
QuickNav is completely useless on MacOS. Lets all report this to Apple! I was 
able to assign next/previous sentence to control-left and control-right track 
pad swipes and have them work quite well.  That is except on page turns where 
the entire page was read. One can fairly easily read by line with quick nav 
rotor set to navigation. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I tried assigning the read next sentence and read prior sentence commands to 
> single keys in the Quick NAV and keyboard commanders, but they don’t function 
> and text field of iBooks for some reason. So, I then rigged up a system of a 
> piece of wood and a 2 1/2 pound weight to hold down the function control 
> option and command keys and therefore allowing me to read down and up Buy 
> sentence  with a single key press on the up and down arrows. This will save a 
> lot of wear and tear on my left hand nerves.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I can’t test here..
>> 1. If buttons are properly labeled, one is supposed to be able to click on 
>> them with VOice Commander by just saying the appropriate phrase.
>> 
>> That being said, the Books application is one of those that is essentially a 
>> IOS application wrapped in MacOS clothes, so I have no idea if this will 
>> cause some issues. Specifically, I know that Books has no Apple Automation 
>> integration and can therefore only be marginally controlled with AppleScript.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> Is it possible to control the reading of a book in the Books app via voice 
>>> commands, rather than keystroke commands. for example, saying next 
>>> sentence, or prior sentence etc.?
>>> Reading sentence by sentence on a apple Bluetooth keyboard is killing my 
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Re: Getting photos described

[Jonathan Cohn]

There is also a feature in Seeing AI to review your photos. 
Open the app, switch to  scenes and then go into the menu at the top and the 
first item should be Browse photos. You get a listing of photos s that by 
default will just give the date, but if you double tab on one, it will send to 
Microsoft for analysis.
I don’t know if that description is then saved in Photos though.
 
> On Feb 19, 2020, at 10:59 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure why or how this can be disabled.  The photo needs to first be 
> analyzed by the engine which, is done either while in the Photos app or by 
> various apps that interact with photo attachments like Messages or Mail.  If 
> it's not doing this immediately, try a three-finger single tap when focus is 
> on the photo to see if it knows what is in the photo.  I'm not positive, but, 
> basically, I believe that it will analyze photos in the Photos app, but does 
> not always analyze those connected to other apps unless requested.  I welcome 
> any clarification or correction though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 19, 2020, at 08:33, Paul Hopewell  > wrote:
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> Hello,
> As a VO user I do not use the IOS or Catalina Photos App much. However I 
> sometimes want to Email a photo a member of the family has taken and which 
> got copied to my iPhone and Catalina photo Apps. In the past some of these 
> were described with captions like “2 faces children” which I understand were 
> added by Apple AI code. Something has happened to remove these very useful 
> descriptions. How can I get them back?
> I am on the latest levels of Catalina and IOS.
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Getting photos described

[Jonathan Cohn]

There is also a feature in Seeing AI to review your photos. 
Open the app, switch to  scenes and then go into the menu at the top and the 
first item should be Browse photos. You get a listing of photos s that by 
default will just give the date, but if you double tab on one, it will send to 
Microsoft for analysis.
I don’t know if that description is then saved in Photos though.
 
> On Feb 19, 2020, at 10:59 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure why or how this can be disabled.  The photo needs to first be 
> analyzed by the engine which, is done either while in the Photos app or by 
> various apps that interact with photo attachments like Messages or Mail.  If 
> it's not doing this immediately, try a three-finger single tap when focus is 
> on the photo to see if it knows what is in the photo.  I'm not positive, but, 
> basically, I believe that it will analyze photos in the Photos app, but does 
> not always analyze those connected to other apps unless requested.  I welcome 
> any clarification or correction though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 19, 2020, at 08:33, Paul Hopewell  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> As a VO user I do not use the IOS or Catalina Photos App much. However I 
> sometimes want to Email a photo a member of the family has taken and which 
> got copied to my iPhone and Catalina photo Apps. In the past some of these 
> were described with captions like “2 faces children” which I understand were 
> added by Apple AI code. Something has happened to remove these very useful 
> descriptions. How can I get them back?
> I am on the latest levels of Catalina and IOS.
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Apple podcast episode length

[Jonathan Cohn]

Jonathan Mozen just reviewed a new podcast listening app that works almost like 
a mail app. I believe his review was about 40 minutes in length.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 17, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I don’t like the Apple stock Podcast app that comes with iOS.  I think it is 
> too cluttered and hard to find basic information like the length of a podcast.
> I use Overcast.  I think it is much more straight forward and much less 
> cluttered with nonsense.  It is free and available from the iOS AppStore.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 17, 2020, at 18:04, Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> If you are on the library tab in the podcast app and you find a podcast you 
> want, you can flick up or down  with one finger on the episode button of the 
> podcast you want until you hear VoiceOver say details, and double tap and it 
> should tell you the length among other things. If you are on the listen  now 
> tab it should tell you the remaining time on each podcast if you have started 
> listening already. . 
> 
>> On 18/02/2020, at 12:01, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just use the Apple iPod app on iOS for the first time and for the life of 
>> me I could not find any indication of the episode lengths. What am I 
>> missing? This is got to be a setting issue or something because there must 
>> be an indication somewhere of the length of a podcast.
>> 
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Re: Getting photos described

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Great idea, but I couldn’t find a way to do that. After a picture is analyzed 
there is a “explore “ button near the bottom of the screen. If you press this, 
then Seeing AI will divide the picture up into objects. This would be an ideal 
place to have an action to identify a person.
I do believe that the photos app itself can identify people.
Jonathan


> On Feb 20, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Many thanks for the suggestion of using the Seeing Eye App as a way to 
> analyse photographs on my iPhone. I am impressed with the results! 
> If there is just 1 face in a photo is it possible to name that person so that 
> they can be identified in other photos??Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Searching in mail

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I start by typing control-option F while in a message list. You should 
then be able to start typing, once you have a couple of letters in then you 
should be able to use downarrow to find a list of completions.
.

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I’m trying to search for messages in mac mail.  I can’t figure this out using 
> VO.  
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Chris
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Re: Accessible Terminal

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have barely used the Catalina terminal, and I have not heard anything about 
it being more accessible. I have always been able to navigate via word and 
character with the Mac terminal program and it certainly was less frustrating 
than using an SSH client I was forced to use on Windows 10 years ago with JAWS. 
The trick was one clear out the buffer occasionally with command-k and make 
sure you interact with the text. So before I did anything that might produce a 
lot of output I always clear out the scroll back buffer or redirect the output 
using the tee program.
Jonathan
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then 
> obviously you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the 
> terminal is usable in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t wish to 
> use it for running text editors or other interactive applications a lot, as 
> it’s rather awkward. To do that, I would much rather run Linux and use the 
> console directly (and, fortunately, my other laptop has Linux installed in a 
> dual-boot configuration).
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal
>  
>  
> I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
> instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word by 
> word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? Maybe I 
> will not need to install TDSR.
>  
> On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Sorry, I’ll add links:
>>  
>> TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>  
>> Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ 
>> <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/>
>>  
>> Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak 
>> <https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak>
>>  
>> A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on the 
>> Mac and working with it: 
>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043 
>> <https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen >> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> devin,
>>> Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list 
>>> archive?
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that 
>>>> I think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike 
>>>> most terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, 
>>>> but entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, 
>>>> may allow this as well, but gosh being able to search the history is 
>>>> great. TDSR, though, is the best terminal screen reader on Mac for more 
>>>> interactive commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such 
>>>> connectors to remote services.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic >>>> <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Devin!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043 
>>>>>> <https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic >>>>>> <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could you 

Re: Inspect element in Chrome

[Jonathan Cohn]

This might be one of those cases where turning off cursor tracking is required. 
Generally, I avoid chrome with Mac except for testing that specifically 
requires it. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> 
> I have to inspect elements in Chrome and copy them and their XPaths. When I 
> press Inspect element, Voice Over reads the element but than focus changes to 
> somewhere else and I can't return back to the element.
> 
> On Windows when I press Inspect element focus stays on the element. Than I 
> press applications key and choose copy element and copy XPath.
> 
> Could you tell me how to do this on Mac?
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Re: Bluetooth keyboards and Web sites in IOS

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, my lab is supposed to put the beta on my iPad. This will be the first 
time in five years that I have used Mac beta software. Guidance?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:07 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Not that I'm aware of, but that really doesn't mean that there isn't.  I may 
> just not know about it.  I, too, looked around for the Full Keyboard Access 
> that is supposed to be a feature of iPadOS and iOS 13 according to
> 
> https://appletoolbox.com/use-an-iphone-or-ipad-without-touch-how-to-use-full-keyboard-access-to-do-just-that/
>  
> <https://appletoolbox.com/use-an-iphone-or-ipad-without-touch-how-to-use-full-keyboard-access-to-do-just-that/>
> 
> but I'm wondering if it is not yet actually released.  I'm hoping that it is 
> a part of 13.4.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 08:37, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Is there anyway to simulate a what the tab key does in web pages on Computers 
> while using a Bluetooth keyboard connected to an iPad? There has been some 
> mention of “Full keyboard Access” in the accessibility menus, but I can’t 
> find that. 
> Thanks!
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I believe that 
sudo nvram SystemAudioVolumeDB=%f5 
Is where my MacBook volume is set to. You might want to try just increasing the 
volume in settings center first and see if that follows through to the startup 
chime.
Also, I have not read any notes any where about the above command, so do at 
your own risk / research.
Jonathan 


> On Feb 23, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Simon,
> Okay, finally got it working.
> First, I thought it was that I needed to press return after pasting, but in 
> actuality, immediately after pasting, I heard “Password”. Then I typed my 
> password and hit enter.
> That got it working.
> It’s a subtle, and fairly quiet sound. Any way to bring up the volume of that 
> sound?
> 
> 
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Re: Bluetooth braille using Catalina the 10 point.15.3. Please read below?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I answered this on the Braille Users list. The important thing here is 
understanding what to do when the notification pops up on the Braille Note. One 
has to click a routing key and then click yes and finally accept in order to 
tell the BrailleNote Touch it is OK to connect to the Mac.
Jonathan


> On Feb 25, 2020, at 3:17 PM, maurice mines  wrote:
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> Hello, here’s the situation were variety of reasons I am down to using the 
> Braille Display that is embedded in a braille note touch plots. My Mac 
> defines it as a brilliant 32 display. However, when attempting to pair this 
> my Mac gives me a six digit code that must be typed into my braille note 
> touch plus which the code appears very quickly. I think the real problem here 
> is the fact that the code comes from the computer it is not the manufacturer 
> four digit code. So does any attempt to use this will not work. Has anyone 
> tried this with her Mac? The manufacturer human where indicates that in 
> theory this should work. Apple says there’s nothing that can be done about 
> the long code. Who’s right here? Or is this display just simply on usable 
> under Bluetooth. For the record USB doesn’t work either because again it 
> classifies it as a device needing to be charged if it seems that at all.
> 
> Has anyone on this list experienced this? Also just for the sake of clarity, 
> I posted the same message essentially to the Braille Display users list. Does 
> anyone have any good suggestions. Or should I suddenly get into the market 
> for a new large Braille Display and see what can be found in which agency 
> should pay for the FedEx?
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> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: Bluetooth braille using Catalina the 10 point.15.3. Please read below?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Actually, it is just asking you to confirm that the number is the same on both 
sides.
Jonathan


> On Feb 25, 2020, at 3:43 PM, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> What I’m saying here, is you must enter in that six digit code exactly as it 
> appears on the screen on the device within 10 to 15 seconds any longer and it 
> corrupts it. There is no facility on the touch to enter that long of a code. 
> This device is set up for a four digit code Apple requires a six digit code 
> because it views it as a foreign device. Security in all.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2020, at 12:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> It should be able to  paired via bluetooth but i don’t understand the things 
>> you were saying about the code.
>> Is the code a very long code that you can’t read because it disappears
>> or what?
>> Normally you will not get a code when pairing the display.
>> Remember that the display is not paired via bluetooth settings.
>> Its paired under VoiceOver utilities.
>> Thanks.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 25 feb. 2020 kl. 21:17 skrev maurice mines :
>>> 
>>> Hello, here’s the situation were variety of reasons I am down to using the 
>>> Braille Display that is embedded in a braille note touch plots. My Mac 
>>> defines it as a brilliant 32 display. However, when attempting to pair this 
>>> my Mac gives me a six digit code that must be typed into my braille note 
>>> touch plus which the code appears very quickly. I think the real problem 
>>> here is the fact that the code comes from the computer it is not the 
>>> manufacturer four digit code. So does any attempt to use this will not 
>>> work. Has anyone tried this with her Mac? The manufacturer human where 
>>> indicates that in theory this should work. Apple says there’s nothing that 
>>> can be done about the long code. Who’s right here? Or is this display just 
>>> simply on usable under Bluetooth. For the record USB doesn’t work either 
>>> because again it classifies it as a device needing to be charged if it 
>>> seems that at all.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone on this list experienced this? Also just for the sake of 
>>> clarity, I posted the same message essentially to the Braille Display users 
>>> list. Does anyone have any good suggestions. Or should I suddenly get into 
>>> the market for a new large Braille Display and see what can be found in 
>>> which agency should pay for the FedEx?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: Bluetooth braille using Catalina the 10 point.15.3. Please read below?

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, I’ll try tonight with my Catalina machine, but I expect to have no 
problems. Once you click pair in the VoiceOver dialog did you get a chime on 
your BrailleNoteTouchPlus?
If so at this point hit any braille routing key on the braille display.
Then answer the next two question in the affirmative and you should be paired.
Jonathan


> On Feb 26, 2020, at 12:08 AM, maurice mines  
> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, it’s still not working. In an email earlier today I described 
> all of the steps that I go through. I repeated these steps with sided 
> assistance this evening. It starts to connect and and immediately 
> disconnects. So it’s obviously a problem that’s bigger than me. I don’t know 
> who was to blame more here Apple for human where for not updating better 
> utility. This process worked under the first generation of the braille note 
> touch. But under the braille note touch plus nothing doing. Even if you can 
> match the code this device still will not talk to the other device.
> 
> Looks like I’ll be petitioning for a new display. The request rejection and 
> the administrative appeals process is so much fun. Let’s hope it doesn’t ring 
> true administrative logic. Or I can pick an older display and meant to. Long 
> story short I’m giving up on this and tell human where an Apple can someday 
> come to terms on this one. Although I don’t know when that day will be I 
> suspect no time soon.
> 
> Sincerely a tired frustrated and very hacked off Lori’s mines.
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

My guess is that the last two digits are a hexadecimal number between 0 and 
255, where “ff” would be 255. and 00 would be 0.
 

> On Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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> Hi jonathan,
> would you increase and decrease volume through changing the last number 5 or 
> how would you do this?
> Thanks Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 24.02.2020 um 22:51 schrieb Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Well, I believe that 
>> sudo nvram SystemAudioVolumeDB=%f5 
>> Is where my MacBook volume is set to. You might want to try just increasing 
>> the volume in settings center first and see if that follows through to the 
>> startup chime.
>> Also, I have not read any notes any where about the above command, so do at 
>> your own risk / research.
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> Okay, finally got it working.
>>> First, I thought it was that I needed to press return after pasting, but in 
>>> actuality, immediately after pasting, I heard “Password”. Then I typed my 
>>> password and hit enter.
>>> That got it working.
>>> It’s a subtle, and fairly quiet sound. Any way to bring up the volume of 
>>> that sound?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
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Re: Bluetooth braille using Catalina the 10 point.15.3. Please read below?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have now paired my Braille note touch plus running all current firmware with 
my Catai=lina and with my Mohabi systems. As I said when I did my original 
tests, there is absolutely no need to enter a pairing code, just to confirm it. 
If you want to FaceTime with me I can walk you through the process.
Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 27, 2020, at 1:16 PM, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> An update on the situation. I spent about an hour on the phone with tech 
> support for human wear. And unfortunately the same problem existed even with 
> the support professional. This issue has been thoroughly documented. I’ll 
> probably write you all an update when I find out what is being done to fix 
> this problem. Just me normal consumer think the problem is largely breast in 
> Cupertino. This use of a security code generated by my Mac for an adaptive 
> technology device is ready to kill us! If you can exempt speakers and things 
> that people want for purely entertainment purposes why is it that the blind 
> must put in codes and all sorts of specialty things in order to access our 
> hardware and use non visual access techniques. And they wonder why we have a 
> 70% unemployment rate. This is why people won’t hire Russ. Long story short 
> the big boys and operating systems need to understand that if they are going 
> to help people get employed they need to reduce the barriers to employment. 
> That’s not just on the state agencies.
> 
> Sincerely  Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 07:45, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I’ll try tonight with my Catalina machine, but I expect to have no 
>> problems. Once you click pair in the VoiceOver dialog did you get a chime on 
>> your BrailleNoteTouchPlus?
>> If so at this point hit any braille routing key on the braille display.
>> Then answer the next two question in the affirmative and you should be 
>> paired.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 12:08 AM, maurice mines  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, it’s still not working. In an email earlier today I 
>>> described all of the steps that I go through. I repeated these steps with 
>>> sided assistance this evening. It starts to connect and and immediately 
>>> disconnects. So it’s obviously a problem that’s bigger than me. I don’t 
>>> know who was to blame more here Apple for human where for not updating 
>>> better utility. This process worked under the first generation of the 
>>> braille note touch. But under the braille note touch plus nothing doing. 
>>> Even if you can match the code this device still will not talk to the other 
>>> device.
>>> 
>>> Looks like I’ll be petitioning for a new display. The request rejection and 
>>> the administrative appeals process is so much fun. Let’s hope it doesn’t 
>>> ring true administrative logic. Or I can pick an older display and meant 
>>> to. Long story short I’m giving up on this and tell human where an Apple 
>>> can someday come to terms on this one. Although I don’t know when that day 
>>> will be I suspect no time soon.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely a tired frustrated and very hacked off Lori’s mines.
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Re: How do I find the USB3 port on my Mac?

[Jonathan Cohn]

All ports directly on your Mac should be the same type. Since older USB 
standards will work with newer ports , it makes little sense to include USB2 
ports on a machine that supports USB3. That being said, my USB 3 hub somehow 
has both USB3 and USB2  protocols running on it as indicated by System 
Information.

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Jonathan Cohn



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> On my 21inch late 2015 iMac, I need to find wich port is the USB3 port.
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Re: Getting Access to What SIRI is Showing Me

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Just to be sure, are you talking about Siri on the computer or on IOS?

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> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Tim,
> Sorry, that was not the question. I do get a response from SIRI, telling me 
> “here’s the information for John Smith”. But I don’t know how to get at what 
> have been placed on the screen. It just disappears when I try to use VO to 
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Re: Getting Access to What SIRI is Showing Me

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Siri creates a dialog which then if you interact with it you will find a 
contacts snippet and if you interact with that you will find most of the 
details. There is  a place in the contacts detail to click and open in the 
contacts app, but it is not very well labeled.
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Re: List for discussing audio described content?

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The ACB tries to keep a listing of all available shows on its site.

Best wishes,

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> described movies and TV shows?
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Re: After upgrading to Catalina there's no sound when pasting an attachment into body of email

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I tried at all three verbosity levels I copied a file of random type and 
VoiceOver said paste when I typed command-V in low, medium, and high verbosity. 
You did not mention iexactly how you were pasting. Did you use the Edit menu?

Actually, I just tried edit->paste and the contextual menu for paste and they 
both say paste (at least in high verbosity).

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Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?

[Jonathan Cohn]

The new OS has a lot of security features. But personally, except for some 
additional configurations in Braille, I have seen little day to day differences 
for me between the two systems. Though I have to say, I spend very little time 
in iTUnes/Music/Podcasts so if you use these applications you will definitely 
see differences in Catalina.

Best wishes,

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> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. 
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> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and 
> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS?  I’m currently 
> working in Mojave.
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Re: Incoming email sounds on the Mac

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Well, one can certainly add sounds to Mail rules. I don't know if they need to 
be a specific type or not. Traditionally, Mac system sounds were AIFF files, 
but I expect that the there is a bit more flexibility these days.

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Braille input device.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Interesting idea, but now that Braille can be entered directly on screen on IOS 
devices will there be much of a market for this device? How many folks who grew 
up with a learning braille would find this more useful than typing directly on 
screen or with a standard keyboard. Although I have tried to get efficient on a 
Perkins entry system, I still find my standard keyboard to be faster to input 
with.

Orbit Writer Smartphone Companion
Orders are being taken for this $99 pocket-size Braille keyboard for fully 
accessing smart phones without using gestures:
http://bit.ly/2TXKGpx 

Jonathan

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Re: AIFF file converter

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>> available on both the Mac and the iPhone, but the alert sounds for the Mail 
>>> app are very limited. I haven’t counted them but I’m guessing it is only 
>>> around 9 options, none of which are very exciting. Surely it can’t be that 
>>> difficult to let us download sounds that we have purchased from their own 
>>> iTunes Store to our Mac’s? 
>>> I might email then and ask but I’m guessing that won’t help as they don’t 
>>> like getting suggestions. And I’m not sure what email address to use.
>>> 
>>>> On 13/03/2020, at 03:33, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> A year or so ago, I did some research on this.  Supposedly it works.  So, 
>>>> I migrated my tones I use on my iPad and iPhone over to the Mac and placed 
>>>> them into the specific location where the Mac grabs these sound files from 
>>>> when making Mail or Message alerts.  You'll note that I'm being fairly 
>>>> vague in my description and this is purposeful.  The specific location is 
>>>> deeper in the System and is not usually accessed by the day-to-day user.  
>>>> I can't remember for sure, but I may have even needed to disable System 
>>>> Integrity Protection to do it.  After all this, it still didn't work.  The 
>>>> tone choices did appear in Messages for me, but when I chose them, they 
>>>> did not play.  I either got no sound at all, or it switched back to the 
>>>> default alert sound.  Again, I'm not positive.  I gave up for now.
>>>> 
>>>> So, essentially, it's supposed to be possible, not for the faint of heart, 
>>>> and not necessarily a successful venture.  Maybe I'll take a look at it 
>>>> again in Catalina in a bit, but wouldn't hold much stock in success.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 22:36, Bradford Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, can you explain how to do this.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 19:50, Jonathan Cohn >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, one can certainly add sounds to Mail rules. I don't know if they 
>>>> need to be a specific type or not. Traditionally, Mac system sounds were 
>>>> AIFF files, but I expect that the there is a bit more flexibility these 
>>>> days.
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Re: (Auto-reply) Apple Support

[Jonathan Cohn]

There is also a Apple support IOS app which includes a chat functionality.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Hi all,
> I wanted to email apple to asked if there was a way I could put my purchased 
> alert tones  on on to my Mac, or purchase new ones  for my Mac. I didn’t want 
> to email the accessibility email address as it really isn’t an accessibility 
> issue. Is there an address I can use? I tried to guess as I couldn’t find one 
> on their web-site. This is the auto reply I got. 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
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>> Subject: (Auto-reply) Apple Support
>> Date: 13 March 2020 at 16:27:31 NZDT
>> To: petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> Thank you for contacting Apple. This is an unattended Apple e-mail address.
>> Here are some support options for your Apple products and services:
>> 
>> Suspicious E-mails
>> ——
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>> invoice claiming to be from Apple, forward it to reportphish...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:reportphish...@apple.com>
>> 
>> 
>> Apple Music on Android devices
>> ——
>> Go to
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>>  
>> <https://getsupport.apple.com/?caller=andrdamp&PGF=PGF51003&category_id=SC0256&symptom_id=21333>
>> 
>> 
>> Apple TV app for Smart TVs as well as Roku and Amazon Fire TV streaming
>> devices
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>> information:https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209440
>> Go to http://getsupport.apple.com to request help on Apple TV app for your
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>> 
>> Shazam customer support
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>> 
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Re: Question regarding VoiceOver hotspots

[Jonathan Cohn]

You do realize, I hope, that almost all search fields on the Macintosh are 
reachable via either command-f or  command-Option-F. command-F can be used to 
search a mail message for content, and command-option-F puts you in the mailbox 
search field. And of course there is also the Voiceover search abilities but 
that won’t help you find a message from E. F. Hutton.

Jonathan C. Cohn
  

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Paul Parravano  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just began using Catalina and am finding a problem with VoiceOver hotspots. 
> I use a hotspot in Apple Mail to quickly get to the search field. I can save 
> the hotspot to the zero key, used with the VO key, but the hotspot is not 
> saved. When I leave mail or shut down my Mac, the hotspot goes away. I tried 
> this in Safari and did not have the same problem. Never had this issue in 
> prior MacOS versions.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to save this permanently would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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Re: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Also, I believe that Macs with T2 chips by default will only boot Windows and 
MacOs. There is a way to turn off this integrity protection.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 20, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I believe there is a function within linux itself that will allow you to from 
> the iso create a bootable installer on to a USB device.
>  
> I did have one of these a few years back but it was created for me I didn’t 
> do it myself.
>  
> You can also in the same way install linux on to the USB Flash drive so it is 
> bootable as a fully functioning  Usb  linux installation.
>  
> I’ve got a feeling ubuntu allow this from their image.
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, 20 March 2020 8:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this 
> possible?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> You are correct in that it will not be bootable when just copied over.  
> Sorry, making a MacOS installer bootable works for me, but Linux is a 
> different animal.  I'm not sure how it can be done.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:57, matthew dyer  <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  
> Tim, I am wanting to make it bootable.  Simply copy and pasting will not do 
> this to my knowledge or am I wrong?  For example, I have a linux distribution 
> I wanna to install on another machine I would need to make it bootable in 
> order to use it.  HTH.
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:06 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> If you already have the ISO image file, just copy and paste it to the 
> external media.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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>  
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 07:23, matthew dyer  <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> Hope someone can help me with this one since I have looked online for an 
> answer but have not found anything that would help.  I am trying to find a 
> way to write an iso file to a usb thumb drive that would work with 10.15.3.  
> I did some searching around and found some directions which require 
> converting the iso file first, but is there an easier way to do this either 
> with a GUI program or through something like DD for example?  If anyone has 
> any idea  it would be greatly helpful.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I haven't been following this tread, but dd is a command line tool to do bulk 
data copying that is often done at the raw partition level, so is useful for 
creating bootable images. 
the dd command is still available in Catalina, though I would expect you would 
need to make sure that terminal has access to the full disk.
Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 20, 2020, at 1:42 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Correct, the option you are referring to is called DD which is disk image 
> mode.  I am wanting to install fresh on an olderolder machine.  This older 
> machine has mo operating system at the moment.  Thanks.  I did come across “ß 
> mac prog’rams which would do this, but none which are accessible. 
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 3:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this 
> possible?
>  
> I believe there is a function within linux itself that will allow you to from 
> the iso create a bootable installer on to a USB device.
>  
> I did have one of these a few years back but it was created for me I didn’t 
> do it myself.
>  
> You can also in the same way install linux on to the USB Flash drive so it is 
> bootable as a fully functioning  Usb  linux installation.
>  
> I’ve got a feeling ubuntu allow this from their image.
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Friday, 20 March 2020 8:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this 
> possible?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> You are correct in that it will not be bootable when just copied over.  
> Sorry, making a MacOS installer bootable works for me, but Linux is a 
> different animal.  I'm not sure how it can be done.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:57, matthew dyer  <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  
> Tim, I am wanting to make it bootable.  Simply copy and pasting will not do 
> this to my knowledge or am I wrong?  For example, I have a linux distribution 
> I wanna to install on another machine I would need to make it bootable in 
> order to use it.  HTH.
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:06 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> If you already have the ISO image file, just copy and paste it to the 
> external media.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 07:23, matthew dyer  <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> Hope someone can help me with this one since I have looked online for an 
> answer but have not found anything that would help.  I am trying to find a 
> way to write an iso file to a usb thumb drive that would work with 10.15.3.  
> I did some searching around and found some directions which require 
> converting the iso file first, but is there an easier way to do this either 
> with a GUI program or through something like DD for example?  If anyone has 
> any idea  it would be greatly helpful.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
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snoozing vs dismissing alarm with FaceID.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
On my iPhone 7, if I press volume button or power (side) button when an alarm 
is goin off, it snoozes. If I press the home button with a finger that supports 
touch ID, the alarm is dismissed.
What is the equivalent for iPhone 10 and newer?
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Re: snoozing vs dismissing alarm with FaceID.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Are you talking about disabling the snooze feature for an alarm or turning the 
alarm off when it is raining?
Jonathan
 

> On Mar 23, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi,
> how do you turn of snooze for alarms etc in a 10S?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2020, at 8:00 am, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> My understanding is as follows:
>> 
>> 1.  If Snooze is disabled in the specific alarm settings, just press the 
>> side button or one of the volume buttons to silence the alarm.
>> 
>> 2.  If Snooze is enabled, use the Home gesture to dismiss the alarm, or the 
>> side button or volume buttons to snooze.
>> 
>> Myself, I don't bother with having snooze enabled, so just have to either 
>> press the side button or the button on my Apple Watch.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
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>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 14:20, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> On my iPhone 7, if I press volume button or power (side) button when an 
>> alarm is goin off, it snoozes. If I press the home button with a finger that 
>> supports touch ID, the alarm is dismissed.
>> What is the equivalent for iPhone 10 and newer?
>> Jonathan
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Re: Where is icloud in terminal

[Jonathan Cohn]

One can always navigate to something with the finder and then copy  an item 
there and when you paste into terminal you will get the file path. Things do 
get a bit strange in the Library directory because of all the sandboxes.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 24, 2020, at 11:38 PM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> If you're using Mojave, Terminal is more secure in this so you need to go to 
> system preferences/security and privacy and the 'privacy' tab. in the box to 
> the left, roll down to "full disk access" and check the box next to 
> "terminal" otherwise it won't let you access the directory.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Pramit
> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 4:47 AM dan d.  <mailto:dandun...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I'm interested to find where in terminal the icloud folder can be found.
> The answers on the web did not find it in terminal.
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Re: Zoom, and Voiceover accessibility information

[Jonathan Cohn]

I am not sure it is 100% in the past. Things I know they have done:
1. You can configure zoom to default to camera and mic being off. 
2. They played around with the one click options so it is possible that an URL  
can't directly launch a Zoom meeting. 
The security issue was that Zoom created a http server on a separate TCP port 
on your computer and if one communicated with that port one could open a zoom 
meeting without first confirming with the computer owner that you wanted to 
start a meeting. So by having microphone and camera initially off when Zoom 
starts, even if somebody starts Zoom without a panel, they won't be able to spy 
on you.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Does anyone know whether the rather nasty security flaw in the 2019 Mac
> Zoom client has been thoroughly fixed?
> 
> I should hope it's now all in the past as the news is about a year old, but I
> prefer caution to assumkption.
> 
> Threat report is here:
> 
> https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2019-13450
> 
> 
> Here's a plain language story about this vulnerability from Yahoo:
> 
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/flaw-teleconferencing-app-zoom-could-17
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> PRAMIT BHARGAVA writes:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> To use Zoom client with MacOS Catalina you will be prompted to authorize
>> the Zoom Desktop Client to use the microphone, camera and screen recording
>> because of increased security and permissions with Mac OS. You will also be
>> prompted to allow the Zoom Desktop Client to allow others to remotely
>> control your desktop. You can click OK during the initial request and you
>> will be able to use your microphone and camera in Zoom.
>> Below link with provide you with the necessary information and have also
>> added the keyboard shortcuts for MacOS also:
>> 
>> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360016688031-Using-the-Zoom-Client-and-Zoom-Rooms-with-macOS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Command(⌘)+J  Join Meeting
>> Command(⌘)+Control+V  Start Meeting
>> Command(⌘)+J  Schedule Meeting
>> Command(⌘)+Control+S  Screen Share via Direct Share
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+A  Mute/unmute audio
>> Command(⌘)+Control+M  Mute audio for everyone except the host (only
>> available to the host)
>> Command(⌘)+Control+U  Unmute audio for everyone except host (only available
>> to the host)
>> Space  Push to talk
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+V  Start/stop video
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+N  Switch camera
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+S  Start/stop screen share
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+T  Pause or resume screen share
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+R  Start local recording
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+C  Start cloud recording
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+P  Pause or resume recording
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+W  Switch to active speaker view or gallery view,
>> depending on current view
>> Control+P  View previous 25 participants in gallery view
>> Control+N  View next 25 participants in gallery view
>> Command(⌘)+U  Display/hide Participants panel
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+H  Show/hide In-Meeting Chat Panel
>> Command(⌘)+I  Open invite window
>> Option+Y  Raise hand/lower hand
>> Ctrl+Shift+R  Gain remote control
>> Ctrl+Shift+G  Stop remote control
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+F  Enter or exit full screen
>> Command(⌘)+Shift+M  Switch to minimal window
>> Ctrl+Option+Command+H  Show/hide meeting controls
>> Ctrl+Shift+R  Gain remote control
>> Ctrl+Shift+G  Stop remote control
>> Ctrl+\  Toggle the "Always Show meeting controls" options in
>> Settings/Accessibility
>> Command(⌘)+W  Prompt to End or Leave Meeting
>> Command(⌘)+K  Jump to chat with someone
>> Command(⌘)+T  Screenshot
>> Command(⌘)+W  Close the current window
>> Command(⌘)+L  Switch to Portrait or Landscape View, depending on current
>> view
>> Ctrl+T  Switch from one tab to the next
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> Pramit
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:09 AM Timothy Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>>> Good afternoon guys. I haven’t written in a while so I thought I might
>>> field a question in hopes that somebody can help direct me where i need to
>>> go. I am a librarian for the Library for the blind and Physically
>>> Handicapped here in Alabama. I have a patron needing anything on voiceover
>>> and Zoom, things as far as how to use it, how accessible etc. I’ve given
>>> him some pointers and information but I don’t know how to host a Zoom
>>> conference, just join those when I get invites and such. Are there
>>> instructions on using Zo

Re: A couple Terminal questions

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, for the first question just interact a few times with the window and you 
should be able to use the voiceover cursor to review and select things. 
VO-return should start selecting and vo-return a second time should finish the 
selection operation. Also, double  tapping with mouse will select a word. I 
thought that triple tapping would select a line but had no luck with that. Of 
course make sure your mouse is where your VO cursor is before using the VO 
shift space to do the tapping.

Your second question was related to file completion.
This might depend on the shell you are using accounts created in Mojave or 
earlier use bash  and Catalina created account default to zsh.  Also, it will 
depend on what the behavior is for partial completions. If you have the files 
dar1 dar2 dar3 and dar4 
Pressing d followed by escape will fill in "dar" and then I believe beep. If 
you press tap a second time then you should get a list of possible matches. 
Note this behavior is strictly related to the shell you are running and its 
options set in the  shell default / profile / login files.
Jonathan



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> Hi,
> 
> When working in Terminal and command line, is it possible to examine the 
> window content with Voiceover?  Say , ls -l command produces a list of files 
> in the directory I am in.  How can I examine each file and maybe even copy 
> their names to clipboard or details about them if I were to use the -l flag, 
> which would produce long information about each item.
> 
> Secondly, reading a book on Command Line, one of the shortcut techniques the 
> author teaches is to start typing the name of a directory to which one wishes 
> to change and then pressing tab, which would result in Terminal completing 
> the name or else giving a list of available names if there should be more 
> than one.  This doesn’t seem to work.  When I press the tab, I hear the 
> ominous bong bong.  So this technique doesn’t work.  Any thoughts on this?
> 
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Re: Email signature storage

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well I discovered:
~/Library/Mail/v6/MailData/Signatures

I have 2 mail signatures and there are 4 files in this directory. The 
.mailsignature files appear to be a modified HTML file and then there are two 
plist files. Apple uses plists files for configuration. They are essentially 
XML files.
AccountsMap.plist property list, no permission to read 
and 
AllSignatures.plist property list, no permission to read

So I believe the all accounts plist is a array of signatures andante a mapping 
between a random file name and the signature name.
Then the accounts.plist should indicate which mail accounts have access to 
which mail signatures.
Note that by default the terminal application does not have read access to 
these directories, only execute. I did not try an LS on the Library/Mail 
directory to see if this is a standard permissions or a ACL that is preventing 
full access.
Jonathan
.
> On Apr 1, 2020, at 6:33 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how/where the e-mail signatures are stored.
> 
> Does individual signature reside within a dedicated file or are all 
> signatures stored in an “archive file?”
> 
> I ask because I find the window interface used to manage signatures extremely 
> inefficient and clumsy.  As of this moment, I have a folder entitled 
> “Signature Tags” in my Documents folder with a file for each signature; I do 
> this because I have lost all my signatures due to glitches in the mail app.
> 
> I would like to manage my signatures via the Terminal window as I am a former 
> Bell Labs employee and am very comfortable in a shell environment.
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
> - Contributor Unknown
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Re: Apple Magic Trackpad 2

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Hello ET,
There was a long article in tidbits.com this week discussing trackpad usage 
with the latest IOS and iPads. I believe you need the newer trackpad if you 
want to use it with the iPad. Not sure of if that would be useful to us, but 
interesting none the less.


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>   I currently have the previous model. Does the 2 offer any advantages over 
> the older model?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Apple Magic Trackpad 2

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For my my bluetooth headphones, battery level is listed in the sub-menu of the 
device in my menu extras area. 
Jonathan


> On Apr 10, 2020, at 11:04 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Does the Mac have ability to check battery status of connected Bluetooth 
> peripherals as iOS does?
> 
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> On 4/10/2020 2:36 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The new version is a bit smaller and thinner and lighter. More plastic. One 
>> major improvement is the built in rechargable battery, which can be charged 
>> with a lightning cable.
>> Concerning functionality its the same.
>> hth,
>> Ronald
>>> Op 9 apr. 2020, om 21:08 heeft 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>   I currently have the previous model. Does the 2 offer any advantages over 
>>> the older model?
>>> 
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Re: Clean install of Catalina OS X refresher

[Jonathan Cohn]

One thing I discovered recently after my son wiped out his disk drive, is that 
time machine backups of Catalina include a recovery partition with a Catalina 
installer. You might find this very useful.
Jonathan
 
Best wishes,

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> On Apr 12, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brad, I’m still a little confused about the reformatting process. I 
> see where it says select delete APS up volume from the edit menu, and then 
> I’m supposed to delete the Mac HD data? I’m really not clear on the steps 
> that you take here could you maybe clarify I can find the Mac HD and Mac HD 
> dadoes volumes in the internal drive section but what do I do? Do I highlight 
> Mac HD first and then select the delete a PSF from the edit menu? Please give 
> me a step-by-step if you would thanks
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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> 
>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> I’ve done a clean install of macOS Catalina several times recently, and had 
>> no issues with VoiceOver during the process.  Since you say Catalina is 
>> already running on your Mac, you should be able to do a straight forward 
>> install from the recovery partition.
>> 
>> Below is a link to an Apple Insider article that details the process and 
>> steps you will need to follow:
>> https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/20/how-to-factory-reset-a-macbook-pro-and-when-to-do-it
>>  
>> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/02/20/how-to-factory-reset-a-macbook-pro-and-when-to-do-it>
>> 
>> BTW - Apple Insider articles display ads, so I recommend switching to Reader 
>> View for a better experience when reading the article.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 09:12, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m planning to do a clean install of OS X. I am currently running catalina 
>> on a MacBook Air 2013.
>> It’s been a while since I’ve done this, probably well before Sierra 
>> sometime, so I’d like a little refresher. Would someone knowledgable and 
>> experienced with this Tell me if the following bullet points are correct for 
>> doing a clean install?
>> 
>> * I won’t be using a flash drive, but will be doing this from a wired  
>> internet connection in the recovery panel.
>> * save everything in the cloud, either dropbox or iCloud or both.
>> 3 in recovery panel, disk utility, find and erase the os partition, MacHD or 
>> something like that, being careful not to erase the smaller recovery 
>> partition or anything more than the OS partition itself.
>> * what are the settings I need to reformat? Like Mac extended journaling. I 
>> thought there was a new set of parameters to select since apple went to a 
>> new file system?
>> * When the erase and reformat is done, exit disk utility and choose 
>> “reinstall” from the recovery menu.
>> * follow the bouncing ball from here on out throughout the reinstall. 
>> * reinstall apps etc
>> End of checklist
>> I’ve heard that VoiceOver goes silent in certain phases of the process, like 
>> at logon screens etc. Is there a specific point to watch out for? Will 
>> “BeMyEyes” be useful in these silent screen cases?
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Re: Catalina Clean Install

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you do this your computer will be in essentially the same sate as it was 
before you did the clean install. Why are you looking to do a clean install? 
There might be less drastic actions you can take.
Jonathan

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> On Apr 12, 2020, at 4:52 PM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> So, will i do a Catalina clean install then use TM to Bring back my Backup?
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Really, the only way to maintain those settings is to bring them back from a 
>> backup, essentially, then not doing a clean install.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 08:20, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi TIm:
>> Yes, i know the document and so on, but , i ment Some apps settings,
>> is there away to keep them while doing a Clean install?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 5:59 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you say "data", do you mean simply data such as documents and such 
>>> that might be stored on your Desktop or in your Documents folder?  Or, do 
>>> you mean third party applications and such as well?  If the former, then 
>>> those are easy to just put back on from either syncing your Desktop and 
>>> Documents folder to iCloud or by storing them on external media.  If the 
>>> latter, then you may not be able to do a true clean install if you're 
>>> worried about losing settings and such for various installed apps.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 18:53, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> DO not know if my question is right or not, but i need to make a clean 
>>> install  for my mac mini, i have Catalina, but my machine is getting slower 
>>> and slower, sometimes VOiceover did not respond, do not know if it will 
>>> solve some of my problems or not, but i think i will give it a try.
>>> my question now is that, i can not  Remember what data do i need in my Mac 
>>> drive, so, is there a way to take all my data, and make system clean 
>>> install, then put  my data back? do not know if iti it will be a clean 
>>> install or not, but i do not want to remove everything, because this is my 
>>> Studio Machine,  and of course i have somethings that i forgot how to do 
>>> them.
>>> Thanks in advance
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Re: Headings in Mac pages or Word

[Jonathan Cohn]

The book is published by Jonathan Mozen. I believe his sight is mozen.org 
<http://mozen.org/>.
Try: https://mosen.org/mymacpages/ <https://mosen.org/mymacpages/>
Jonathan C. Cohn

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> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:09 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Anne And Archie Robertson have written a book on word processing on the mac.  
> It might be worth your while buying this book.  Anne is a member on this 
> list.  I can’t remember where you might purchase the book from in either. 
> epub or pages or pdf format but someone on the list might know.
> 
> The title of the book is “My mac Pages - A VoiceOver Guide to Word 
> processing’.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 13 Apr 2020, at 01:46, Muhammad Babar Shahzad > <mailto:babarant...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I am a new user of MacBook pro. I am a student and I have to format the 
>> assignments using headings.
>> How can i enable voiceover to read and assign the headings in either word or 
>> pages? I also have to use numbers or excel so, may i request for any 
>> tutorials about these programs?
>> Any recommendation for a free download manager? The last question is about 
>> the safari report to be busy sometimes and I don’t think it has anything to 
>> do with the slow internet. The connection seems to  be ok.
>> Thanks,
>> Muhammad.
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Re: Catalina Clean Install

[Jonathan Cohn]

There are some system cleanup programs out there but they are not likely to 
really help. One thing that can help is to uncheck the box on the logout screen 
about restoring windows. While it is convenient to have everything back the way 
it was when you logout or shutdown your machine, if you are not diligent about 
closing windows when you are done with them, then you might create conditions 
where your computer is running out of physical memory. Especially since 
VoiceOver keeps an open thread for any window in any application, the n number 
of threads running on MacOS can get quite large. 
If you are hearing VoiceOver say busy, what this means is that VoiceOver has 
expected an update from a program and didn’t receive it  quickly enough. This 
could be VOiceOver  communication channels being overloaded so you can try 
stopping starting VoiceOver to see if that makes a difference. Another check 
would be to bring up the force quit applications dialog and see if it also sees 
a process as being unresponsive. Today, I opened 30 outlook windows and this 
seemed to work fine until I replied to one of the messages at that point I 
tarted getting busy messages from Outlook. I worked around that a bit, but 
eventually I had to logout and log back in to get performance back.
As I said at the beginning clearing cache is generally not a good idea. Cache 
is temporary storage that your computer is using to keep local items that might 
otherwise take a while to retrieve. Usually the older  cache entries should be 
automatically cleared on a properly running system. This is just standard 
garbage collecting that the system should be doing. 

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:47 PM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Ok, can you tell me some tricsk, that may help? for instance, the Text edit 
> app got busy some times, and also, some other apps.
> If there are any tricks like what we do in windows to clean the  cash etc, 
> please give me a hand.
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 2:16 AM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you do this your computer will be in essentially the same sate as it was 
>> before you did the clean install. Why are you looking to do a clean install? 
>> There might be less drastic actions you can take.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 4:52 PM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, will i do a Catalina clean install then use TM to Bring back my Backup?
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 3:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Really, the only way to maintain those settings is to bring them back from 
>>>> a backup, essentially, then not doing a clean install.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 08:20, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>⁩> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi TIm:
>>>> Yes, i know the document and so on, but , i ment Some apps settings,
>>>> is there away to keep them while doing a Clean install?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 5:59 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you say "data", do you mean simply data such as documents and such 
>>>>> that might be stored on your Desktop or in your Documents folder?  Or, do 
>>>>> you mean third party applications and such as well?  If the former, then 
>>>>> those are easy to just put back on from either syncing your Desktop and 
>>>>> Documents folder to iCloud or by storing them on external media.  If the 
>>>>> latter, then you may not be able to do a true clean install if you're 
>>>>> worried about losing settings and such for various installed apps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ti

Re: Cleaning up Mac clutter

[Jonathan Cohn]

ET,
How does this compare with App Cleaner? I know you have talked about Clean My 
Mac features in the past, but it would be great for a new review.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:37 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Lots of leftoevers. Clean My Mac 2 is a great tool for this. I run it 
> weekly.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/16/2020 8:32 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:
>> Oy, how does it happen? Over the years, stuff just accumulates on computers. 
>> Despite my best intentions. :)
>> Does anyone have a rather effortless way to clean up the electronic clutter? 
>> I was just looking through my applications folder and I don’t remember what 
>> some apps are for. Lol, insert face palm here. I’ve had my Mac for nearly 
>> nine years. So you can imagine, there’s a lot of stuff cluttering up my 
>> system.
>> I did trash some apps, but I wondered if more needs to be done. Is there 
>> little leftovers from the trashed apps?
>> Thanks for the guidance,
>> Traci
>> PS. If I do upgrade to a new machine, here’s hoping I’m better about what I 
>> install and keep on it. ;)
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Re: Two specific bugs in numbers OS X

[Jonathan Cohn]

Interesting. I wonder if the number of rows/columns speaking changes if you 
change the window size. Try making it 1/2 size or full screen 
(control-option-tilde can help you in the resizing). The tilde key is the 
shifted key to the left of 1 on the US keyboard.

Best wishes,

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> On Apr 16, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Stan, could you be more specific? What problems are you experiencing 
> specifically? What version of the OS and of numbers are you using? How long 
> is these problems persisted for you etc. Thanks it’ll help a lot.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:03 AM, Stan ZA  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi 1&All,
>> Yes! I agree, I have the same actions.
>> Cheers.
>> Stan ZA
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Apr 2020, at 17:00, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> within the last week or so, after installing some OS X updates and the new 
>> version of Numbers, several things have been going wrong in numbers 
>> specifically label and Row header labels are not being read correctly.
>> two other bugs are happening within tables and they are specifically:
>> One, using the VO, shift, and end keystroke (The end key is simulated with 
>> function right arrow), used to always take you to the last cell in the 
>> table. Now however, now it kicks you back to the A1 cell no matter where you 
>> are in the table.
>> 2, using the VO plus shift plus home (function left arrow), which used to 
>> take you to the A1 cell in the table, now kicks you out of the table and 
>> restarts vo. When I do this I get the message welcome to OS X, voiceover is 
>> on.
>> 
>> 
>> As to the row and header label issue, as I said earlier, column headers are 
>> only read out to about column six or seven, and row header labels are only 
>> read down to about the 12th or 15th row. After those limits, no column or 
>> row headers are recognized by VO. They are recognized by numbers as they are 
>> used in formulas etc., but VO does not see them nor does it announce them. 
>> Clearly these are not the proper functioning voiceover, and they are either 
>> a problem with the installation, the corruption of voiceover or numbers, or 
>> they are bugs in the new version. Any ideas out there? Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Help with saving files in Pages

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Hello,
If you open system preferences to the General screen, you will find a checkbox 
called "Ask to keep changes when closing documents" if you check this box, your 
file dialog will be more like how it is on a windows computer.
In Macs by default, a lot of programs will automatically save your changes 
regularly, and when you close them. In these programs the duplicate will create 
a copy that will then prompt you when you close it as to where to save. If you 
save more often, then the Apple default, then you can review all your saves  in 
the "document Actions"  menu that is before the toolbar or in the file->revert 
to… menu. If you revert to a previous version, then the current will be saved 
so you could go back to that.
 . 
HTH!

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> In the File menu, if you hold down the OPTION key, the Duplicate command 
> changes to Save As.
> Or, just use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + SHIFT + S for Save As while 
> working in a document.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 20:55, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
>   I’m hoping a Pages user can walk me through the file menu of the Pages 
> app.
> 
> I need to understand how things work and I think my years as a Microsoft Word 
> user is getting in the way.
> 
> I’m looking for a easy way to save a document I’m working in and give it a 
> new name or save it to a different location.
> 
> When I press Save nothing seems to happen but I’m pretty sure it has saved my 
> recent changes.
> 
> If I press Duplicate it makes a copy but then I’m dumped back into my file 
> and have not been able to change the name or save it to a new place.
> If I press rename It seems to open and then I’m back in my file without being 
> able to give it a new name.
> 
> And pressing Move brings me a place where I can select some locations with a 
> button but not go more deeply into a folder to save the document.
> 
> I’m sure it is me just not understanding the work flow so I’d love some tips 
> on saving and naming files in Pages.
> 
> Appreciatively,
> 
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Re: Apple Script to mount networked drive

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
I might have missed some of the discussion here, and so this might be a 
duplicate message. If you connect to a network drive using the command-K 
function, and then once it is connected you create an alias file of the volume, 
this should work as a way to not be connected at startup, but still have a file 
that when opened will connect to the server.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Rob  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> You can save the file anywhere. I chose to save it to applications, since its 
> a app.
> Just open the app with command+O, or command+down arrow.
> But the reason I needed this script to be in the app format is to add it to 
> the logg  on apps in the system prefs/users
> That way the drive is automatically mounted when the Mac boots.
> Another good use for the app is to put it on the desktop for easy and quick 
> way of mounting the drive when you need it.
> Mabey someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the smb on the 
> beginning of the IP address is needed when connecting to a windows machine or 
> network storage drive.
> After you paste the text of the script into the apple script editor,
> go to the file menu then to export.
> here you can name the script and choose the format to be .app.
> If you need more help. let me know.
> I'm writing this message in a hurry. but I hope this gets you started.
> Thanks, Rob
> 
> On 2/15/2015 3:41 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> Hi Rob,
>> 
>> Thanks very much for posting the script.  Could you tell us where to save 
>> the exported script as application? And how does one activate it?  These are 
>> possibly very uninformed questions :).
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 04:56, Robert Cole >> <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Here is a apple script to mount a network drive.
>>> using the script editor, export as app instead of script.
>>> 
>>> tell application "Finder"
>>> try
>>> mount volume "smb://193.169.0.6 "
>>> end try
>>> end tell
>>> 
>>> replace the IP address with the IP of your drive.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>> Sent from my MacBook
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah I see that now.
>>>> Another option is to create an automator work flow and save it as an app.
>>>> The work flow will only have get specified server and connect to server in 
>>>> that order.  In the get specified server, just enter the server url.
>>>> Then save it as an app.  I’ve tried it and it connects and mounts at login 
>>>> without the finder window opening.
>>>> 
>>>> There is another way as well which involves editing the /etc/fstab file, 
>>>> but I’m not sure off the top of my head how to create an entry for a 
>>>> network drive.
>>>> I should add that if you want to try to go that root, you only edit fstab 
>>>> using vifs.
>>>> 
>>>> And, there is yet another way using launchctl, but I’m not going to try to 
>>>> tell you how to do that either it as I don’t actually have a nas.  I’m 
>>>> just using an ftp server for testing.  You would want to use something 
>>>> like mount_afp or mount_smbfs.  You can look at the man page and play 
>>>> around with it.  The automator app is probably the easiest option though.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Rob >>> <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, I tried that but it still opens a finder window of the drive.
>>>> even when the hide checkbox was checked, so I deleted it.
>>>> I will try it again.
>>>> if it continues to open the finder window, do you have any more 
>>>> suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/13/2015 6:28 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>>> To keep something from opening at startup, you need to check the box in 
>>>>> the hide column next to it in the startup apps table.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Rob >>>> <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Can someone remind me
>>>>> How to  mount networked drive at startup?
>>>>> I added it to user/log on apps, but that caused the drive 

Re: Numbers

[Jonathan Cohn]

Just vo-space on the cell you want to edit and work away.
Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Wondering if anyone knows how to do in-cell editing in Numbers?
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Re: Editing Formulas in Excel for the Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

David,
I have Excel on my work Mac, but have never opened it. I do use the insider 
preview so I have the latest version. I believe in the help menu there is a 
feedback form, so that might be worth it especially if you are willing to use 
preview versions of Microsoft Office.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 20, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> I notice that VO does not play well with Excel. When I do tap F2 to edit a 
> cell, the formula displayed is always the previous one I visited for editing. 
> I consistently need to press Esc and then F2 again to have the current cell 
> formula in the edit field.
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Using option key in menus.

[Jonathan Cohn]

ET was asking about where else besides the File menu can using the option key 
give you different or alternative menus. The Mac sprinkles these around quite a 
bit. Most of the menu extras have option layouts with more information. For 
example, the WiFi one has Mac Addresses TX and RX rates, a diagnose tool, the 
channel and country of channel for the router and bunches more and the volume 
menu extra allows you to pick input and output devices.
 
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Re: question for anyone who uses the Starbucks app, can you view your card balance?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello, close to the bottom is 
"scan in store" button. Click this button and you can review all your StarBucks 
cards and their balences.
(Note, I upgraded my SB app today.)
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I am finding that I can no longer view my card balance or reload my card in 
> the Starbucks app. Is anyone else experiencing this? If not, how are you 
> accessing your card information? When I tap Cards you can scan, I can flick 
> up, and VO reads my card, but then when I tap on it, it disappears. Running 
> IOS 13.4.1 and the latest release of the Starbucks app. Appreciate any help 
> you can offer.
> Cheers,
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Re: Designing an accessible website for my Music Studio?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello, The WIX site for creating web pages by consumers has an accessibility 
statement. I have no idea if it is accessible in reality or just in theory.
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:58 PM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
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> Hi all:
> 
> do not know if this out of list or not, but I do not know anyone that can 
> help me in that,
> I Need to create a website for my Studio, I do not have any information about 
> how to make one, and Frankly i will not be able to study Coding, etc. 
> - Are there templets or something that i can fill the content, and it will be 
> ready?
> - I need something that i can continue uploading and arranging my data with 
> no sited help.
> - If i will start with a Free Host, will it be useful like Godady etc? and 
> how can i ask anyone to design an accessible site for me and for any guests?
> Sorry for all my questions, and if anyone can help, you can contact me 
> Privately for not disturbing anyone here.
> u can COntact me at:
> ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com 
> Thanks in advance
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Re: question for anyone who uses the Starbucks app, can you view your card balance?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I usually wait until I place an order that is larger than my balance and at 
that point  the App recommends that I add $25. If I want to add a different 
amount, I believe I can just press the $25 and adjust it. My phone needs a 
charge right now, so I can't test.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 29, 2020, at 6:45 AM,  
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> Yes.
> Scan tab then move to middle of the screen and flick up.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:35 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question for anyone who uses the Starbucks app, can you view 
> your card balance?
>  
> Hi Jonathan,
>  
> when I Click on Scan In Store,, I see the following:
>  
> My star balance
> Link Another in-store payment
> Payments You can Scan in Store 
>  
> Vo says that Payments you Can Scan in Store is adjustable. Tapping it does 
> nothing, but if I flick up, VO speaks my card number followed by Manage/Add 
> Funds, but then quickly reverts back to the Payments You can scan in Store 
> prompt, not allowing me to activate the Manage/Add funds button.  You're not 
> seeing that behavior? Are you running IOS 13.4.1?
>  
> Cheers,
> Donna
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:44 PM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello, close to the bottom is 
>> "scan in store" button. Click this button and you can review all your 
>> StarBucks cards and their balences.
>> (Note, I upgraded my SB app today.)
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am finding that I can no longer view my card balance or reload my card in 
>>> the Starbucks app. Is anyone else experiencing this? If not, how are you 
>>> accessing your card information? When I tap Cards you can scan, I can flick 
>>> up, and VO reads my card, but then when I tap on it, it disappears. Running 
>>> IOS 13.4.1 and the latest release of the Starbucks app. Appreciate any help 
>>> you can offer.
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Re: Catalina mail app too verbose

[Jonathan Cohn]

You can still do this if you interact with a row and move over to the subject 
field. Then when using regular arrow buttons only the subject is spoken. 


> On Apr 30, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> having upgraded to Catalina I now find that voiceover reads out every detail 
> of email headings in the mailbox. That is the from, subject, date and time 
> and mailbox. I used to be able just to scroll down by subject or date without 
> hearing the rest. Is there any way around this extra noise?
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Re: the new iPhone SE

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It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to the 
iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is not as 
noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much better 
battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% speech 
rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value for anybody 
that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which was just 
standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G technology.
If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
Jonathan



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> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
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> instead of facial recognition?
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Re: Right Command Key

[Jonathan Cohn]

Good Morning,
I believe we lost your answer. Also, to see if it is a physical / mapping issue 
turn on Keyboard help for VoiceOver (vo-k) and press your modifier keys, they 
should each speak what they do!

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 1, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Dulce Weisenborn  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 1, 2020, at 1:15 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   In the VoiceOver Utility under the Navigation category, do you have the 
>> checkbox for Fast Searching checked. I believe this uses the right command 
>> key by default.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>>>> On May 1, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Dulce Weisenborn  wrote:
>>> I  just want to use it with letters on the left side of my Mac keyboard 
>>> such as command-f.  This would spare me the gymnastics required to hit all 
>>> the keys on the left side.  Hopes this makes sense.
>>> Dulce
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On May 1, 2020, at 9:46 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> What about the key doesn’t work? Are you using the MacBook keyboard, or a 
>>>> USB one?I want to use either command key.
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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you have owned your iPhone 8 for more than a year, you might want to
check the upgrade options. My carrier allowed upgrades with their lease
plans after a year.
Take Care!
Jonathan Cohn

On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 15:35, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

> I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market
> for a new phone though, I'd be really interested in it.
>
> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>
> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to
> the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is
> not as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much
> better battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at
> 80% speech rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good
> value for anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6
> which was just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G
> technology.
> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
> Jonathan
>
>
>
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>
> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my
> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint
> instead of facial recognition?
>
> thanks.
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Re: VLC media player

[Jonathan Cohn]

Just below Full Disk Access in the Security and Privacy settings is Files and 
Folders (at least on Catalina). Once you are in that list, you should be able 
to find the VLC application. When I was scanning Google results for you, there 
was mention that some versions of VLC require Accessibility access in order to 
work. I hope this is not the case, because then VLC could effectively control 
just about anything on your system.
  
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I guess I don't know how to navigate System prefs very well. the only thing I 
> seem to be able to find in General is appearance.
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 4:43 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Under the general tab,
>> And right at the bottom you may have to unlock the settings and click allow.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 7:42 PM
>> To: 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: VLC media player
>> 
>> my VLC is giving me a message under errors and warnings. it wants me to go 
>> into system prefs and give it permission to access files and folders. I go 
>> to Security and Privacy and the only thing I can find that seems related is 
>> full disc access. there are no apps in the table and I don't know how to add 
>> one. can somebody please coach me a little bit?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Controlling Audio Output

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An application can but I am not sure how many noisy applications actually do… I 
believe that Rogue Ameba   the  of Audio HiJack has an application to manage 
sound from various Apps.
Jonathan



> On May 5, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> There’s audio settings in the system prefs.
> But this controls audio for the hole system.
> Can the aplication set its own audio output?
> /A
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>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 21:36 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi, All:
>> 
>> I'm looking for a way to direct audio output from a particular
>> application to a particular audio device.
>> 
>> I currently have two audio devices on my Mini, and a third one coming
>> soon. So, I want certain applications to output to a particular one of
>> those three devices. I seem to recall seeing this somewhere, but can't
>> recall where? Did I see this in System Settings? Or was I just dreaming?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org
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Syncronmizing passwords

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
On my work computer, I recently changed my AD Password which then caused JAMF 
to change my login and keychain passwords. But for some reason, the password 
associated with File Vault at boot did not change. In the past, I had changed 
the password using the JAMF Self Service app in the Menu Etras, but I was lazy 
this time. How can I get FV password to be synced again with my Mac password.
Thanks!
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Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy

[Jonathan Cohn]

Unfortunately it isn't enough to just throw in a foreign language, you need to 
indicate it is a different language. in HTML you would usually use a span tag 
for this.
BonJour  
I wrote the above in textedit and saved it as bj.html (after making sure it was 
a plain text file). When I opened that file in Safari, VO read it in a French 
voice. I then copies the entire HTML page and pasted it below, I believe it 
will still use my  English synthesizer.
I even tried changing the spell check to French which is enough on Microsoft 
Word to change the language. So, I don't know how one writes multi-lingual text 
on Mac and have VO recognize it.

BonJour
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 5, 2020, at 4:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> You shouldn’t really notice any change unless you land on text that is in a 
> different language.  If VO figures out the that it is French, or Spanish etc, 
> it should change accordingly for pronouncing that, or those, words.  It will 
> remain speaking Alex the rest of the time.
> 
> I’ll throw a French word or two in the sentence below to see if it works at 
> all.
> 
> Bonjour, je m’appelle Tim.  Comment ça va?
> 
> A bientot.
> 
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>> On May 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I read Tim’s instructions but it’s not made any difference.  I land on that 
>> option and voice over does nothing when I press the space bar.
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But I want to use Alex.  I just want to turn off the automatic language so 
>>> those characters don’t get read out.
>>> 
>>>> On 5 May 2020, at 20:46, Pete De Vasto >>> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you perform the below instructions, using the down-arrow instead of up 
>>>> will take you past the automatic language suggestion and land on other 
>>>> voices like Alex or Victoria or Samantha or whoever you want. At least, 
>>>> that’s what happened to me. Also, it may take a couple of seconds for VO 
>>>> to load the next voice you come upon when you do this.
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 5, 2020, at 12:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So how do you turn off the automatic language?  Couldn’t find it where 
>>>>> the language was.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5 May 2020, at 18:44, Brad Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This option can be found by holding down, VO + CMD + SHIFT, then + Left 
>>>>>> or Right Arrow until you get to Voice, then up arrow until you get to 
>>>>>> Automatically Select Based on Language.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 5, 2020, at 11:07, Dave Carlson >>>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete,
>>>>>> Think it’s under Settings/General/Keyboard. But not absolutely certain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[Jonathan Cohn]

First thing to check is if your Clock is correctly set (within 5 minutes). 
Almost all web sites use SSL certificates to verify that the machine you are 
receiving data from is actually the machine it clames to be. To prevent re-play 
 situations, the remote server sens back information including its knowledge of 
the current time to your web browser. If the time is not accurate enough, than 
your machine will declare the certificate invalide.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 6, 2020, at 8:09 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
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> Hi all:
> 
> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone and 
> Mac,
> on Iphone , I got a screen like:
> The identity of Google.com <http://google.com/> can not be verified, and it 
> asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i found 
> another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. what 
> is it?
> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not 
> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
> THnaks
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Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

[Jonathan Cohn]

You might have more luck turning on monitoring of resources on the Network 
side. Also, do you own the Chrome Book or is it the schools. If it is the 
schools, then they could set up controls. I don't believe that individual 
ChromeBooks can be controlled unless you get a MDM type solution though Simon 
would probably know more about that.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 6, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> That’s been the same thing here, and we had to have a meeting with her home 
> room teacher, and it was really unpleasant to hear that most of her grades 
> were F’s, and one subject was as low as 1%.  If she’s watching one of the 
> videos that gets uploaded regularly, I can just walk back into the dining 
> room and listen to make sure she’s not watching a YouTube video, which she’s 
> not thrilled about, but oh well.  So right now,  I have to constantly   ask 
> her what she’s doing and relay it back to her teacher via class Dojo, which 
> as far as messages are concerned, is working well for me at the moment,  but 
> any files that get uploaded I always miss,  because it and VoiceOver don’t 
> play nice in the sandbox, so all I can do is know who posted it.
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am having the exact same problem! I'd love to find an accessible
>> solution that doesn't involve taking away my boy's laptop, turning on
>> the screen reader, checking what he's doing, and giving it back to
>> him. He says he's doing work, which he seems to be when I check most
>> of the time, but, I get weekly messages from his teacher saying that
>> he's not submitting as much work as he should be. It's really
>> frustrating.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/6/20, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> I never thought I’d be needing to do this, however, I’ve been getting
>>> messages from Hannah’s teacher stating that she’s not turning in
>>> work/checking in on Microsoft Teams.  I’ve finally just made her. Come out
>>> of. Her room to do her work, but would like to know how I can view exactly
>>> what’s up on her. Screen, and know that she’s not just sitting their
>>> listening to music with her headphones on, and unfortunately, constantly
>>> hovering over her to make sure she’s doing it isn’t always going to be an
>>> option, for multiple reasons, one of them being, that not all of her lessons
>>> are auditory.  Has anyone ever done this, and if so, what’s involved in
>>> getting it set up?
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Re: Syncronmizing passwords

[Jonathan Cohn]

I haven't tried a solution, but every 90 days we have a corporate policy of 
requiring a password change. Usually I use the JAMF self service change 
password  functions for this, but this time, I was on the Microsoft Security 
page updating my new iPhone SE for authenticator and saw a change password 
link. Since my password was expiring in less than 24  hours, I was lazy and 
changed it there. JAMF then apparently pushed this through. I then had failures 
of Mail not retrieving and calendar not syncing, so I figured that my Keychain 
must be locked. I went into Keychain access, and locked/unlocked my login 
keychain which suprsisingly was using the password I had just given to the AD 
change password.  At this point, everything seems to be updated except the File 
Vault password. 
So, yeah I could change my password again but I will first look, in Users and 
Groups and see if I can just push a new password to the BIOS for FileVault. 
Luckily, I don't have a T2 chip enabled computer, so I am not too worried about 
bricking the system. 
I'll followup tomorrow.


    Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 6, 2020, at 4:50 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Why did AD change your Jamf password?
>  
> I will assume through the central authentication as your machine is 
> authenticating through and Active Directory inferstructure.
>  
> Can you reset the password for Your FV account through users and groups under 
> system preferences?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2020 2:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Syncronmizing passwords
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> Hello,
> On my work computer, I recently changed my AD Password which then caused JAMF 
> to change my login and keychain passwords. But for some reason, the password 
> associated with File Vault at boot did not change. In the past, I had changed 
> the password using the JAMF Self Service app in the Menu Etras, but I was 
> lazy this time. How can I get FV password to be synced again with my Mac 
> password.
> Thanks!
> Jonathan Cohn
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS 

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan


> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
> are spot on.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the 
>> same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the 
>> “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with 
>> one finger.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>> +1.214.893.8060
>> wb...@swbell.net 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess 
>>> with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
>>> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
>>> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
>>> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
>>> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
>>> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
>>> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Syncronmizing passwords

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I was going to start changing passwords, but decided to do a reboot and 
this time my new password was required to unlock File vault. So, I don't know 
what  happened. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 6, 2020, at 4:50 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Why did AD change your Jamf password?
>  
> I will assume through the central authentication as your machine is 
> authenticating through and Active Directory inferstructure.
>  
> Can you reset the password for Your FV account through users and groups under 
> system preferences?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2020 2:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Syncronmizing passwords
>  
> Hello,
> On my work computer, I recently changed my AD Password which then caused JAMF 
> to change my login and keychain passwords. But for some reason, the password 
> associated with File Vault at boot did not change. In the past, I had changed 
> the password using the JAMF Self Service app in the Menu Etras, but I was 
> lazy this time. How can I get FV password to be synced again with my Mac 
> password.
> Thanks!
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Jonathan Cohn]

Then you might not have filled in basic health information in the health app. 
This might be useful for emergency workers if they find you unconscious and 
your iPhone is by your side. (Oh, and if you activate either the Health or 
Emergency SOS the face/finger print sensors should be deactivated.
, 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 7, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> No i only have the power off and imergency thing.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 18:11 skrev Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
>> dialog with three items:
>> 1. Power Off
>> 2. Medical ID
>> 3. Emergency SOS 
>> 
>> The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with 
>> the iPhone 10 and 11 systems.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you 
>>> are spot on.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a 
>>>> home button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at 
>>>> the same time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then 
>>>> find the “Slide to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double 
>>>> tap with one finger.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BRADFORD SNYDER
>>>> +1.214.893.8060
>>>> wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of 
>>>> the home button. What’s the “normal” way?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Petrus,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your 
>>>>> ipHone is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can 
>>>>> mess with things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up 
>>>>> version.  Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to 
>>>>> restart, you go to the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is 
>>>>> unresponsive, you can hold down the power button for about five seconds 
>>>>> forcing the Mac to shut down.  The force shutdown can cause open files to 
>>>>> get errors and other less desirable results.  Nine times out of ten, 
>>>>> nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later…
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >>>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Anders,
>>>>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
>>>>>> bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
>>>>>> volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
>>>>>> followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
>>>>>> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
>>>>>> usually get better results i

Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[Jonathan Cohn]

I would discourage “less secure mode” unless you know for sure that you are on 
a system that is not supported by modern security protocols. For that matter, I 
thought these errors were occurring in the Browser and not in Mail. 
This is definately a failure of some kind with the SSL handshakes, but it could 
be a loss of root certificates (very unlikely), or a badly formed proxy in the 
home or local ISP. 
If indeed this is a  an issue while browsing I would suggest using Google 
Chrome or if you have sighted help Firefox I believe both have their own caches 
of the root certificate public key. In the current climate of staying at home, 
I’m not sure how one could test some kind of Man in the Middle type attack.
Really wish this was the clock problem, that would be easier.


> On May 7, 2020, at 11:36 PM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> On both the Mac and iPhone, make sure that date and time is correct. 
> 
> Now on iPhone navigate to Settings > Passwords & Accounts > Select Gmail > 
> Select Account (at the top) > Advanced > Under "Incoming Settings"  Turn OFF 
> "Use SSL" and then Turn it back ON.
> 
> Also, clear the browser history of your safari browser on Mac and log in to 
> Google Account and from Security turn On "less secured app access".
> 
> This will sort the issue that you're currently facing. 
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Pramit
> 
> ‪On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM ‫Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر‬‎ 
> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:‬
> Hi all:
> 
> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone and 
> Mac,
> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
> The identity of Google.com  can not be verified, and it 
> asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i found 
> another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. what 
> is it?
> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not 
> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
> THnaks
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Re: An old apple keyboard

[Jonathan Cohn]

Ah yes, I am still using ny eMac USB keyboard on a regular basis. It is a big 
clunky keyboard by today's standards. Nice features: volume keys and mute above 
the numeric keypad. I Love Love Love using VoiceOver with anumeric keypad. I 
used a keyboard from a Flower Power iMac which was probably a 4th generation 
iMac still with CRT and PowerPC chips until the keys started to be unresponsive.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 8, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, 
> 
> We have rediscovered an old Apple USB keyboard. Is this something we could 
> use on a new Mac, or should we donate it? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Traci 
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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[Jonathan Cohn]

Ah, DNS. I currently set up with a google router and it overrides the I S P 
recommended DNS with their own by default. Before that, I used to use 1.1.1.1 
as my default DNS server, I can't remember now who runs that.
This can be configured either on your router if it sends DHCP to your lan, or 
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Re: apologies WAAAAAY OT

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
DOwnload to computer and edit with Numbers? 
OK, OK for the Mac I understand Chrome works better than JAWS, and you probably 
want to turn on Braille support even if you are not using a braille display. 
Note, I have only studied this not practiced it. Well, I need to move things 
from Share Drives into Google Docs so let me find a spreadsheet and test. Also, 
in terms of JAWS, I believe that  Freedom Scientific Training YouTube channel 
has a lesson or two on Google sheets.
Are you looking for cell navigation, or something more complex?


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> I need to be able to edit a GoogleSheet. How do I do this? Also, it would be 
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Re: Podcasts OS X app

[Jonathan Cohn]

What you are probably looking for is the sidebar located before the rewind 
button. In the side bar you can change from Listen Now  view to Browse, top 
charts and library.
.
Well, the storage is not exactly intuitive.. One of my podcasts is located at:
~/Library/Group 
Containers/243LU875E5.groups.com.apple.podcasts/Library/Cache/A67A91B0-FC4E-452B-92BB-1F6E6B2D22A7.mp3


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 13, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I have been trying to get up and running with the new Podcasts app on 
> Catalina, but drives me nuts.
> There are some podcasts already, but doesn’t let me play another one for 
> instance.  How do I select another one?
> On the internet I read sighted users have to hover above a podcast to get to 
> see the player controls and options. As far as I can see the player controls 
> are already visible, only the options are not. The only options I manage to 
> see is while on a podcast pushing vo+shift+M for the contextmenu. There are 
> some items to choose from such as add to library and save etc. Are these all 
> the options there are?
> 
> Unfortunately I have already learned from an older thread here on the list 
> the downloaded files arent’ located in the iTunes Media folder with original 
> names anymore for easy backup. Really disappointing.
> 
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ronald
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Re: Urgent please, m y wi-fi is not configured on mac, what can i do?

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You need to click the add service button and add WI Fi back in.


> On May 18, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Ramy Moustafa Saber  
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> Hi all:
> 
> Personal hotspot is not working here, so, i went to network, and i
> found a delete button, i clicked on it, and now, i cna not connect to
> any wi-fi.
> When in the extrus menu, i found wi-fi is not configured, hi searched,
> but cna not find somehtin guseful to do, so please tell me, how can i
> tern my mac to see wi-fi again? Thanks in advance for helping.
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: Urgent please, m y wi-fi is not configured on mac, what can i do?

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, after you click that you should get a dialog. The dialog has a popup button 
a text field and a cancel and Accept buttons.
Click on the popup button on my  computer it said Thunderbolt, select WiFi from 
there. Then you can name the WWiFi in the next field. then click accept and you 
should be back up and running.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Ok i clicked add, but cannot do anything ,  can us give me steps plz?
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 18, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to click the add service button and add WI Fi back in.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Ramy Moustafa Saber 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> Personal hotspot is not working here, so, i went to network, and i
>>> found a delete button, i clicked on it, and now, i cna not connect to
>>> any wi-fi.
>>> When in the extrus menu, i found wi-fi is not configured, hi searched,
>>> but cna not find somehtin guseful to do, so please tell me, how can i
>>> tern my mac to see wi-fi again? Thanks in advance for helping.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> Music instructor @:
>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>> Harmony Recording Studio
>>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
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Re: Urgent please, m y wi-fi is not configured on mac, what can i do?

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Sorry I didn’t go into the details on the first message. I was a little afraid 
that if I deleted my WiFi I wouldn’t be able to get work done. I remembered I 
could set up a “location” and mess with that without changing the automatic 
setting. 


> On May 18, 2020, at 3:37 PM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Wow, it’s more than easy, do not know why i did not configure that it’s a 
> popup box, sorry for disturbance, and THanks for helping.
> 
> 
>> On May 18, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, after you click that you should get a dialog. The dialog has a popup 
>> button a text field and a cancel and Accept buttons.
>> Click on the popup button on my  computer it said Thunderbolt, select WiFi 
>> from there. Then you can name the WWiFi in the next field. then click accept 
>> and you should be back up and running.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok i clicked add, but cannot do anything ,  can us give me steps plz?
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You need to click the add service button and add WI Fi back in.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Ramy Moustafa Saber 
>>>>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personal hotspot is not working here, so, i went to network, and i
>>>>> found a delete button, i clicked on it, and now, i cna not connect to
>>>>> any wi-fi.
>>>>> When in the extrus menu, i found wi-fi is not configured, hi searched,
>>>>> but cna not find somehtin guseful to do, so please tell me, how can i
>>>>> tern my mac to see wi-fi again? Thanks in advance for helping.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Music instructor @:
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>>>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
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Re: Variety of Mac questions

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I would recommend reading the article from Tidbits about the new systems. 

https://tidbits.com/2020/05/04/updated-13-inch-macbook-pro-dumps-butterfly-keyboard-doubles-storage/
 



Essentially you should either get the higher end Pro or the Air. There is some 
talk about improved audio in the pro line.

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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

[Jonathan Cohn]

You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings about 
the app.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
> you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
> apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really 
> a bust.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
>> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>> details of how it works.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
>>> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. 
>>> So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I 
>>> installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message 
>>> that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I 
>>> need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If 
>>> they expect people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to 
>>> do.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

[Jonathan Cohn]

One of the features that Apple and Google proposed was to only allow health 
workers to mark somebody as being exposed to the disease. This way, one can't 
freak out everybody that went to the Fraternity party with you last week.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 21, 2020, at 2:50 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via MacVisionaries 
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> my understanding is that it works through bluetooth. so I'm guessing you 
> would have to log if you have COVID-19 into an app and your phone will notify 
> you if you have been exposed. there aren't any apps yet.
> 
> sent from the iPhone 11 Pro
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that 
>> this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part of 
>> what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for 
>> that potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't exist, 
>> or because users aren't given information about what apps they need to 
>> install.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
>>> developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends on 
>>> your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well explained.  
>>> Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  It’s 
>>> developed by both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms.  
>>> I’m hoping that someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig 
>>> puts out a better explanation of the process to the masses.
>>> 
>>> In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology 
>>> have yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from 
>>> a Canadian prospective.
>>> 
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166 
>>> <https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
>>> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific 
>>> apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I 
>>> see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this 
>>> is really a bust.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>>>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>>>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system 
>>>> too. It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>>>> details of how it works.
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>>>>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells 
>>>>> me that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app 
>>>>> installed. So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 
>>>>> app. I installed it, and answered the questions, but I&#

Re: VoiceOver And iPhone Migration

[Jonathan Cohn]

Oh, and make sure screen curtain is off on your old phon!

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 22, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
> I’m upgrading from my iPhone 7 to the new iPhone SE, and the new phone is 
> arriving today. I was hoping I’d be able to use iPhone Migration to transfer 
> from the old to the new device. Will VO give me the right feedback so I can 
> align the two devices properly to do the initial part of the process? Are 
> there any other things I should know before I go this route? I can always 
> fall back to iTunes or iCloud, but the migration process really does seem 
> like it would be the way to go if it works OK with VO.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts or advice,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Joining Zoom meetings more efficiently from Mac using Chrome

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, if you are often going to the same meeting then you can just open the 
Zoom Application. In terms of going to the dialog, you can try vo-J or 
vo-shift-J and see if either of these go to the dialog. 
. 
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> On May 22, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
> Howdy folks. Here’s a quick question, and if the answer is simple and easy, 
> I’m hoping that others can enlighten me.
> 
> Using a Mac and the Google Chrome browser, is there a more efficient way of 
> sjoining Zoom meetings when activating a link?
> 
> My current process is to press Return on the link, causing the Chrome browser 
> to open. Once this happens, I have to stop interacting with the web page, 
> then move to the pop-up, interact with it, and then VO+Right to the Open Zoom 
> button. Now, I personally don’t have any issues doing this, but in thinking 
> of being more efficient, and in showing some of my clients an easier method, 
> I’m wondering if there is a different way. For example, does Google Chrome 
> have a hot key to focus a pop-up notification. Something similar to focusing 
> other areas. In Windows, there is a hot key, Alt+Shift+A, but I haven’t been 
> able to find an equivalent
> Hot key for Mac.
> 
> In doing some research, I found that Chrome used to allow for a check box to 
> always and automatically open certain programs based on the link type, but 
> this has apparently been removed for security reasons. My goal is to make it 
> so that a Mac user who uses Chrome, can simply press Return on a Zoom link, 
> and it will open in Chrome, then automatically redirect to Zoom app and enter 
> the meeting.
> 
> Thank you, and I hope my message makes sense.
> 
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Re: Figured out Apple Pay problem

[Jonathan Cohn]

I understand they just  expanded the options for Apple Cash, something about 
debit cards, but I think to transfer money out of cash, there is a charge of 
about 1.5% .
HTH!

Best wishes,

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> On Aug 3, 2021, at 15:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Well, this is stupid.  You can’t use a credit card, and you can’t use a 
> PayPal account, so the only way to add money to Apple Cash is to link it to a 
> bank account.  Guess that’s the end of that for me. *sigh*
> Donna
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Re: Editing secure note using 1 password on Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Have you checked how wide your 1 password window is?
I just entered 
"aThis is a test of my exiting lifestyle."
In a secure note, and it showed up in one line. 
My 1 password window is 8 inches wide and 5 inches tall. Check this by typing 
VO-COmmand—F2. To adjust the size of the window you can use VO-VO-shift-tilde 
(the key to the left of the 1 key on the US English keyboard)
If you pay for 1 Password on a monthly basis, you can also edit things on the 
web site, which I generally find fairly accessible.

Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 7, 2021, at 12:51, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I am running the latest 1 password under Bigsur 11.5.1 on my 2018 iMac.
> I am trying to edit a secure note using VoiceOver. I go to the secure note 
> edit area and interact with it. As I move the cursor up and down using the 
> arrow keys I hear only 1 word at a time. This is because the secure note edit 
> area window is so small. This makes editing secure notes difficult, and so I 
> select the entire secure note edit area and move it to a TXT file which I 
> edit and then move the result back to the 1 password secure note edit area.
> Is there a better way to edit 1 password secure notes?
> Many thanks for any tips.
> Best …Paul Hopewell
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Re: Figured out Apple Pay problem

[Jonathan Cohn]

I am not sure if I am answering your question, but here is my best guess.
Debit cards are most often issued by banks as a super ATM card. They work as an 
ATM card, but also have Visa or Mastercard codes on them allowing a store to 
draw from your bank account instead of the credit card. I believe you can also 
set up something where you deposit $500 into an account that will then issue 
you a debit card with a $500 credit limit on it. This second situation is 
usually used for people who are first establishing a credit history.
Jonathan

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> On Aug 6, 2021, at 21:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hmm. Thanks for this.  I have a PayPal account, but no debit card.  How does 
> one get a PayPal debit card?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 5:45 PM, Mickey Quenzer > <mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> I have we have a PayPal debit card and I use that all the time to transfer 
>> money into Apple Pay. As long as the money is in Apple Pay you should be 
>> able to do that you just have to set up your card to for Apple and then make 
>> sure that card is selected when you transfer money.
>> It’s not easy but it works. Once you get it set up correctly!
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 5:20 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> I don’t care about getting money out of Apple Cash, I’m trying to get money 
>> into it. :)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn >> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand they just  expanded the options for Apple Cash, something 
>>> about debit cards, but I think to transfer money out of cash, there is a 
>>> charge of about 1.5% .
>>> HTH!
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 15:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, this is stupid.  You can’t use a credit card, and you can’t use a 
>>>> PayPal account, so the only way to add money to Apple Cash is to link it 
>>>> to a bank account.  Guess that’s the end of that for me. *sigh*
>>>> Donna
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Re: Keeping an open app in the doc in big sur?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

I thought this was fixed in 11.5 In any case, it might not be you, but the OS. 
The main thing to know about Big Sur is its has a second contextual menu called 
actions.
This is access with vo-command-space . It usually has the regular contextual 
menu as the last item.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> wrote:
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> Hi List,
> I just started moving to big sur and can’t seem to get a contextual menu open 
> in the doc for an app thats currently running.
> What is the trick to keep an app in the doc these days?
> When I try to get to the option to “keep in doc” it just seems to go in to 
> the “twilight zone”! :)
> Any Help out there?
> thanks
> Chuck
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Re: Running Mac OS as a virtual machine

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you get VMWare player you should be able to run a guest MacOS from
within a Mac computer. I believe currently the license just says you
must be running it on Mac hardware. If you create a VM there is an
option to create a MacOS VM, and then you can install what ever copy
of Mac OS you need. Tidbits.com had an article about this when the new
OS did not allow 32 bit binaries to be run on it anymore. They gave
instructions for  how to install a VM to use 32 bit programs in the
older OS.
One license condition which I am not sure people really abide by is
that if you sell your Mac, it should have the same OS as when you
initially bought it.

Good Luck,
Jonathan


On 8/22/21, Frank Ventura  wrote:
> Can you install Mac OS into a Bootcamp session? The Bootcamp utility
> suggests it is designed for Windows. thanks
>
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> I know you can create multiple Bootcamp sessions with the Mac, but I have
>> never heard of Mac being ran as a Virtual Machine.
>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 03:51, Frank Ventura
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all, back in my days of Windows server 2008 and 2012 I used to run a
>>> host machine with two or more virtual machines (Windows) running as
>>> guests. This kept the guest operating systems isolated from the host OS
>>> for security reasons and sure made backups easy. I would like to
>>> accomplish the same thing on my 2013 Mac Pro. I would like to run one or
>>> two Mac OS guest operating systems. How can I accomplish this? As far as
>>> I know Apple does not sell retail licenses of the Mac OS. Am I wrong
>>> about that? I assume there are folks  out there running the Mac OS as a
>>> virtual machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>>>
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