[maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories
Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and concerns If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU. Proposal: 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras Reasons - contrib in traditional debian sense is used as a component - contrib in debian sense is quite different and causes confusion. In debian contrib is defined as Contrib: Packages in this area are freely licensed by the copyright holder but depend on other software that is not free. - If need be (community think a good idea and want to have it) we can introduce contrib component in line with debian definition inside extra repository like deb http://repository.maemo.org/extra/ mistral free non-free contrib Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would have to be changed old : http://repository.maemo.org/contrib/ mistral free non-free new : http://repository.maemo.org/extra/ mistral free non-free - If developers have independent scripts or something depending on contrib those needs to be changed to use extras instead - developers uploading to contrib should change their dput.cf to this: [garage] login = your_garage_login_name fqdn = garage method = scp hash = md5 allow_unsigned_uploads = 0 incoming = /var/www/extras/incoming 2. To move python stuff and xterm kind of applications from current maemo2.0 free TO, free component in http://repository.maemo.org/extra/mistral/free Reasons - To streamline repository contents (free) to include mostly components on the device and their development dependendencies - maemo repo were designed to support SB development environment and developer rootfs Having apps and language binding stuff has prompted the use of these repo for device upgrade. Till we test and fix the repos to be safe for use with device i.e test they dont break the device due to device upgrade (read fix our packaging wooes), take away motivation from simple users to configure maemo/mistral repository for apps. Developers using sardine are assumed to know what they doing :) - bring python and gtkmm (currently available in contrib repo) and similar other language and gtk language binding components to single consolidated repository extra Impact - same impacts as 1. Best Regards Devesh ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories
On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU. Proposal: 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras [snip] Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would have to be changed [snip] Sorry, I think you're too late. You should have considered these issues in advance, and introducing another please change your settings to users just looks a little unprofessional so soon after the EABI change (which we all agree was worthwhile, but the users don't think they see the benefit). I suppose the only redeeming feature would be that there aren't *many* projects yet using contrib. However if you were going to do any such change, make the settings more clear for a user: * make sure the settings match those provided by default by the AM * if free non-free doesn't match the defaults, make it as simple as possible. Why does the Debian distinction need to apply here, given the limited data entry on a Maemo device? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Flegg schreef: On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU. Proposal: 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras [snip] Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would have to be changed [snip] Sorry, I think you're too late. You should have considered these issues in advance, and introducing another please change your settings to users just looks a little unprofessional so soon after the EABI change (which we all agree was worthwhile, but the users don't think they see the benefit). *If* you want to make such a change, make sure you release a new firmware image that has all the changes and have a short changeover period to minimize the annoyance. And if you are going to release a new firmware image, please release an RC first to get rid of the most obvious bugs. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFCRT9MkyGM64RGpERAquiAJ45posQBexwcLGEnA3XyasOvBYbpwCeNm2k IcY4HaGuQ/SWDnKOJ3/ivhA= =0nKW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 10:38:21AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Flegg schreef: On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU. Proposal: 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras [snip] Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would have to be changed [snip] Sorry, I think you're too late. You should have considered these issues in advance, and introducing another please change your settings to users just looks a little unprofessional so soon after the EABI change (which we all agree was worthwhile, but the users don't think they see the benefit). *If* you want to make such a change, make sure you release a new firmware image that has all the changes and have a short changeover period to minimize the annoyance. And if you are going to release a new firmware image, please release an RC first to get rid of the most obvious bugs. I don't see how this would affect the firmware image because contrib/extras repo is not configured there by default. It seems there was a typo in the URLs in Devesh's mail. I guess it should be http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ instead of ...extra/ ?? Anyways, I feel that this slight reorganization is needed and to me it's not that big of a deal. Br, Jari -- Jari Tenhunen, stardate [-29]6376.04 :wq ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories
Hi, Devesh Kothari wrote: Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and concerns If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU. Proposal: 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras Reasons that's useful to reduce confusion in future but i'm not sure is it is really that important, if i remember correctly Familiar 0.9 is expected to use the same name for a feed to be used by external contributors. It might be a good idea to keep the old name for a while as a link/copy for the users not following the mailinglist discussions. It is really important to avoid breaking things for less experiences end users. Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: +49 271-771091-14 and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: +49 271-771091-19 [Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904][EMAIL PROTECTED] 1D78 2D4D 6C53 1CA4 5588 D07B A8E7 940C 25B7 9A76 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
