Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories

2006-09-14 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and
concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU.

Proposal:

1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras

[snip]


   Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib
 - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would
   have to be changed

[snip]

Sorry, I think you're too late. You should have considered these
issues in advance, and introducing another please change your
settings to users just looks a little unprofessional so soon after
the EABI change (which we all agree was worthwhile, but the users
don't think they see the benefit).

I suppose the only redeeming feature would be that there aren't *many*
projects yet using contrib. However if you were going to do any such
change, make the settings more clear for a user:

 * make sure the settings match those provided by default by the AM
 * if free non-free doesn't match the defaults, make it as simple as
   possible. Why does the Debian distinction need to apply here, given
   the limited data entry on a Maemo device?

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories

2006-09-14 Thread Koen Kooi
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Andrew Flegg schreef:
 On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and
 concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU.

 Proposal:

 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras
 [snip]

Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib
  - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would
have to be changed
 [snip]
 
 Sorry, I think you're too late. You should have considered these
 issues in advance, and introducing another please change your
 settings to users just looks a little unprofessional so soon after
 the EABI change (which we all agree was worthwhile, but the users
 don't think they see the benefit).

*If* you want to make such a change, make sure you release a new firmware image 
that has
all the changes and have a short changeover period to minimize the annoyance.
And if you are going to release a new firmware image, please release an RC 
first to get
rid of the most obvious bugs.

regards,

Koen
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Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories

2006-09-14 Thread Jari Tenhunen
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 10:38:21AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
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 Andrew Flegg schreef:
  On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and
  concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU.
 
  Proposal:
 
  1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras
  [snip]
 
 Impact to developers/contributors/users of contrib
   - Currently configured repository in /etc/apt/sources.list would
 have to be changed
  [snip]
  
  Sorry, I think you're too late. You should have considered these
  issues in advance, and introducing another please change your
  settings to users just looks a little unprofessional so soon after
  the EABI change (which we all agree was worthwhile, but the users
  don't think they see the benefit).
 
 *If* you want to make such a change, make sure you release a new firmware 
 image that has
 all the changes and have a short changeover period to minimize the annoyance.
 And if you are going to release a new firmware image, please release an RC 
 first to get
 rid of the most obvious bugs.

I don't see how this would affect the firmware image because
contrib/extras repo is not configured there by default. 

It seems there was a typo in the URLs in Devesh's mail. I guess it
should be http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ instead of ...extra/ ??

Anyways, I feel that this slight reorganization is needed and to me it's
not that big of a deal.



Br,
Jari

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Re: [maemo-developers] Proposal for streamline maemo repositories

2006-09-14 Thread Florian Boor
Hi,

Devesh Kothari wrote:
 Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and concerns
 If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU.
 
 Proposal:
 
 1. To change the name of the contrib repository name to extras
Reasons

that's useful to reduce confusion in future but i'm not sure is it is really
that important, if i remember correctly Familiar 0.9 is expected to use the same
name for a feed to be used by external contributors.
It might be a good idea to keep the old name for a while as a link/copy for the
users not following the mailinglist discussions.
It is really important to avoid breaking things for less experiences end users.

Greetings

Florian

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