OS2008 SIP support for Cisco Unified Communications 500 Series?
All, while doing some product research on the Cisco Unified Communications 500 Series PBX system I discovered that the product has been designed to also support the dual mode (wifi/GSM) Nokia handsets. The 500 series can be optionally configured with an 802.11g interface. Do any of the Nokia participants on this list know whether or not the Cisco Unified Communications 500 Series will also work with the SIP client that is contained in OS2008? Here for those interested is the url to the www page at the Cisco www site for the document that asserts support for the Nokia dual mode handsets: http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/products/ps7293/c1037/cdccont_0900aecd806a8a1e.pdf -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 on n800 - Nice Job
Mike, I expect that Nokia has filed lots of patents regarding its battery and power management intellectual property. Software engineers by and large tend to take the availability of electrons for granted but those electrons have to come from somewhere in order to get the software "work" done. When I speak to others about the Internet Tablet product family I always make a point to mention the power conserving knowhow that has gone into the design, even before this last round of improvements. My Windows Mobile handset is not really as useful as it could be as a PDA because the battery life is so short (~30 minutes) or so when I attempt to use it for email or for accessing the www. What I really would like to have from Verizon Wireless (or another mobile service provider) is a device with the following characteristics: * Function:EVDO modem with bluetooth for tethering to the N800 * Battery Capacity: 10-12 hours of continuous use (i.e. where the modem is turned on and "dialed in" to the Verizon Wireless EVDO network) between recharging. * Form Factor: fits in a shirt/coat pocket or belt clip holster * Weight: 10 oz or less (this is the weight of the UTStarcom XV6700) Now that Verizon Wireless has taken the defensive measure of following Google's lead in agreeing to "open" its mobile network to non-Verizon Wireless supplied devices that "meet spec", I could foresee a company developing such a product. Such a product could be a good way for Nokia, for example, to get a share of the mobile device market from the CDMA based mobile providers in the U.S., (Sprint, Verizon Wireless, and Alltell) prior to the evolution to of those service providers to LTE. I am hopeful that as WIMAX gets deployed in the U.S. in the 2.4 ghz band and, perhaps, eventually in the 700 mhz band, it will be more device friendly in terms of battery power consumption than EVDO and HSDPA. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Michael Wetherell wrote: > On Wednesday 28 November 2007 08:55, Eero Tamminen wrote: > >> The main reason why OS2008 is faster than OS2007 is that kernel now >> supports Dynamic Voltage Frequency Scaling (DVFS). When only CPU is >> used, the frequency can be higher than in OS2007, when also DSP is >> used, it needs to be dropped to earlier speed (which transition was a >> real pain to get fast and reliable enough). When neither is needed, >> frequency can be dropped even lower which improves battery usage. >> > > Seems like really good work, the tablet is transformed. Congrats to all > involved. > > Regards, > Mike > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: synchronization with MS exchange
Jason, in case you are not aware, Access has introduced a Nokia Internet Tablet Compatible virtualization environment for the Palm OS & apps. Called Garnet. Here is the url to the www site: http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ I have not yet tried it so I don't know how well it does with applications that require access to the wireless interface of the N800. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Jason Edgecombe wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My new Nokia N800 should arrive tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. > I've been using a Palm m130 for years now and the killer feature has > been synchronizing contacts and my calendar. I would miss meetings if my > PDA didn't beep and remind me of them. ;) > > Can I use the N800 to do repeatedly to manual one or two-way syncs from > MS Exchange to the N800 and have the meeting reminders cause the N800 to > sound an reminder alarm at the appropriate time? > > I can also code, so if there is some work in progress for this, then > please point me to it. > > Thanks, > Jason > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia_Siemens_Networks_launches_pocket-sized_VoIP
Fred/Ryan, I think that the reason for incorporating the SIM this solution that it contains a credential (lets call it a billable entity) that can be used by the mobile operator to authenticate the user and direct the VOIP call to that service provider's SIP service. That way, said operator can charge the user for whatever service is provided. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Fred Pacquier wrote: > Acadia Secure Networks a écrit : > >> All, >> here is an interesting announcement from Nokia-Siemens this week: >> >> http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/global/Press/Press+releases/news-archive/Nokia_Siemens_Networks_launches_pocket-sized_VoIP.htm >> I am surprised however that it is going to take until 3Q 2008 to get the >> product out. I have to assume that the long pole in this tent is the >> effort to get one or more mobile service providers to implement the >> necessary functionality in their networks to work with this device, >> which appears to be SIM card on a usb key. >> > > Gotta love press releases. After reading oodles of that thickest of > marketingspeak, I'm still not sure what this thing is supposed to do for > me -- except cost me money :-) > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Nokia_Siemens_Networks_launches_pocket-sized_VoIP
All, here is an interesting announcement from Nokia-Siemens this week: http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/global/Press/Press+releases/news-archive/Nokia_Siemens_Networks_launches_pocket-sized_VoIP.htm I am surprised however that it is going to take until 3Q 2008 to get the product out. I have to assume that the long pole in this tent is the effort to get one or more mobile service providers to implement the necessary functionality in their networks to work with this device, which appears to be SIM card on a usb key. I should hope it will "play" well with the Nokia Internet Tablets. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Comparison of Nokia 810 with the HP iPAQ rx5915
All does anyone on this list have a comparison of the Nokia 810 with the HP iPAQ rx5915? For those not aware of it, here is the url to the www page at the Amazon.com www site for the HP product. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JET9EA/ref=pe_17140_7377440_as_txt_12/?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER I see that the HP unit supports an external antenna, I assume for the GPS but I am not sure. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: SIP with VPNC
Alfredo, Nokia released a beta version of the SIP stack a while back which can be installed and run on OS 2007. I have installed on my N800 and I am awaiting information from my VOIP service provider in order to test it out with their service. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: > Great! I didn't have the chance to use OS2008 yet, that's good news. I > was waiting for a SIP client since the release of the 770. > > > On Nov 29, 2007 3:02 PM, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Nov 29, 2007 12:44 PM, Alfredo J. Fabretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, I don't know about your problem, but what SIP phone are you using? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Alfredo, >> >> He's referring to the new built-in SIP client. If you create an account on >> the device (control panel >> Accounts), your choices are now Google Talk, >> Jabber, or plain old SIP. Works well with my asterisk server. >> >> Dave >> >> > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Cant Get Access to send email re Garnet VM Download Instructions
All, I seem to be having a problem getting the Access Corp www site to send me the email that will allow me to download the Garnet VM. I have tried several email addresses and two different email service providers but I don't seem to get a response. Has anyone else had this problem. Here is the url to the www page to which I am referring: http://www.access-company.com/cgi/gvm_nseries.cgi?action=download_form&which=N800 -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 on n800 - Nice Job
Mike, its the OS2008 on the N800 faster because of software redesign or has the hardware been reconfigured by means of a different software setting to run at a higher speed than OS2007? I would assume the former but I am not familiar with the details of the N800 processor. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On Nov 27, 2007 10:18 AM, nick loeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Been playing with the beta. Looks awesome! >> >> Great work... the changes to make the GUI fit the form factor are very >> very nice... >> >> The development of the GUI over the OS releases would be a good case >> study for some Interaction/UI students. :) >> > > There are a few quirks but I agree. With OS2008 it is like a whole new > (and better) device. > Everything is blazing fast compared to OS2007 and there doesn't seem > to be any glaring brokenness. > A little bit of overclocking goes a long way :] > > The new transparent UI looks great and dragging things around on the > desktop is a breeze. > Photo viewing (with automatic aspect portrait/landscape adjustment) is snappy. > Much smoother media/flash viewing. > Much more standard infrastructure so that you can cross-compile easier. > I love rtcomm and how it integrates all the IM/VoIP under one app. > The mozilla-based browser works very well. > > Pretty spectacular guys ... well worth the wait. > Two thumbs up! > > I'll keep digging and bugzilla things as I find them ... but it is not > easy work anymore ;] > > /Mike > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Nokia Maps on N800
All, is there a way to get the maploader from Nokia to download maps onto the N800? I can't seem to find an application called "Maps" to which the maploader refers, either installed on the N800 or available for download to the N800. Is Maps only available if the N800 user purchases the nav kit? For those not already aware, here is the url to the www page at the Nokia www site where the maploader is discussed: http://europe.nokia.com/A4509271 and http://europe.nokia.com/A4509291 After connecting the N800 to my Windows XP SP2 system and attempting to start the download of a map to the N800, the maploader application gives me a message to the effect that I first have to run the MAPS application on the target device. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Tethering N800 to Sprint phone
Chris, my experience is with the XV6700 on Verizon Wireless's network and it does tether with the N800 via bluetooth. Sprint sells (sold?) this handset as the PPC6700. The successor to the PPC6700, which runs Windows Mobile 6.0 is the Mogul. This is an expensive handset, however. For more info, check out the www pages whose url's are: http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=17100 http://www.sprintmogul.net/ and http://www.sprintmogul.net/Forum/tabid/54/ptid/370/searchwords/tether/searchtype/AND/forumtype/searchresults/Default.aspx Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris Mcnally wrote: > I am considering switching to Sprint in the US, and I would like to > choose a current phone that would support tethering (phone as modem) > with the Nokia N800. I will buy a data plan. I am not sure how to tell > which phones will work with the N800. > > Under the "full features" tab, Sprint shows several phones as supporting > "phone as a modem" but the option to buy a data plan does not appear > when I select any of the free phones, only the Samsung M510 which is 99 > dollars. > > Can anyone answer which current U.S. Sprint phones, especially the sanyo > SCP 3200 or the LG LX160 can tether with the N800? Sprint offers windows > XP software to tether, but I'm not interested in that. > > Thanks in advance > > Chris > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 USB and radio
Peter, the N800 uses the headphone wires as an antenna. If you plug in your headphones and you are in the vicinity of an FM broadcast station you will be able to listen. You can still listen through the speakers on the N800 by selecting the appropriate output with the FM radio app. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Microsoft Small Business Specialist*** * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 Peter Flynn wrote: > Two little things have me baffled. > > a. There is an app on my N800 called FM Radio. It seems to be a real FM > radio tuner, not an Internet Radio, as it has a tuner in MHz and isn't > obviously connected with the browser. However, all it receives is white > noise, and there doesn't appear to be anywhere to plug in an antenna. > The manual doesn't mention this application at all. > > b. The device came with a USB cable with a regular A connector one end > and a subminiature B connector the other. I have searched the casing of > the N800 but failed to locate the USB socket, and although the manual > mentions the cable (under PC Connectivity), it doesn't say where you > plug it in. > > All hints warmly received :-) > > ///Peter > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Google's Open Device Push with the FCC + Nokia N800/N810 + Openmoko +Walt Mossberg = Stars Aligning for "Free My Handset"
All, fyi,. Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal (the geek for the non-tech man) has penned a piece in last Monday's edition (Oct 22) that homes in on the issue of "open mobile device". Here is the url to the www page at the WSJ www site for the article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119264941158362317.html If you are not a subscriber to the WSJ Online but want a copy of the article, send me an email and I will forward it to you. Among his comments pertaining to the mobile service providers, the following are, shall we say, mildly provocative: > So, it's intolerable that the same country that produced all this > has trapped its citizens in a backward, stifling system when it > comes to the next great technology platform, the cellphone > A shortsighted and often just plain stupid federal government has > allowed itself to be bullied and fooled by a handful of big > wireless phone operators for decades now. And the result has been > a mobile phone system that is the direct opposite of the PC model. > It severely limits consumer choice, stifles innovation, crushes > entrepreneurship, and has made the U.S. the laughingstock of the > mobile-technology world, just as the cellphone is morphing into a > powerful hand-held computer. It severely limits consumer choice, > stifles innovation, crushes entrepreneurship, and has made the > U.S. the laughingstock of the mobile-technology world, just as the > cellphone is morphing into a powerful hand-held computer. > *The Soviet Ministry Model* > > That's why I refer to the big cellphone carriers as the "Soviet > ministries." Like the old bureaucracies of communism, they sit > athwart the market, breaking the link between the producers of > goods and services and the people who use them. > > To some extent, they try to replace the market system, and, like > the real Soviet ministries, they are a lousy substitute. They > decide what phones can be used on their networks and what software > and services can be offered on those phones. They require the > hardware and software makers to tailor their products to meet the > carriers' specifications, not just so they work properly on the > network, but so they promote the carriers' brands and their > various add-on services. > .. > Even so, Apple had to make a deal with the devil to gain the > freedom to offer an unimpaired product directly to users. It gave > AT&T exclusive rights to be the iPhone's U.S. network for an > undisclosed period of years. It has locked and relocked the phone > to make sure consumers can't override that restriction. This > arrangement reportedly brings Apple regular fees from AT&T, but > penalizes people who live in areas with poor AT&T coverage. > But this whole cellphone subsidy game is an archaic remnant of the > days when mobile phones were costly novelties. Today, subsidies > are a trap for consumers. If subsidies were removed, along with > the restrictions that flow from them, the market would quickly > produce cheap phones, just as it has produced cheap, unsubsidized > versions of every other digital product, from $399 computers to > $79 iPods. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 simple soft case mod
Gary, I find that there are times when this feature (belt clip) would be useful. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * Gary Baribault wrote: > Does anyone else clip it /want to clip it to their belt? > > Gary B > > > > Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: > >> On 10/23/07, *Gary Baribault* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> Does this case clip to the belt? I had my lady sew a rubber belt loop to >> the back of the gray soft case that the N800 came withand it works, but >> is not the best solution... I'm looking for a cellular type of clip on >> belt holder that would protect the N800 when I toss it in my laptop bag. >> >> >> No, unfortunately it does not clip to the belt. >> >> >> >> -- >> anidel >> > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: chinook
Fred, I did some more research into the problem of connecting to Windows Vista and Windows Sever 2008 Beta 3 using Rdesktop on the N800. It turns out that if I use the IP address instead of the netbios hostname that the Rdesktop client DOES work on the N800. It is kind of interesting to see the Windows Media Center application running on the N800 screen. I can even use the N800 to manage the TV programming guide/selection. However, The Media Center application is "smart" enough to realize that it is connecting to a RDP display and so video playback is suppressed. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* Acadia Secure Networks wrote: > Fred, > > I can't speak to your question with respect to the N810 since I don't > have one yet. > > I can however, confirm that RDesktop does work on the N800 and I have > used/tested it by VNC'ing into my N800 by means of TigntVNC running on > Windows XP SP2 and used the rdesktop app on the N800 to manage, for > example, Windows Server 2003 systems. Of course the keyboard in this > configuration was connected to the XP system. > > On the other hand, I have been unable to use this mechanism to RDP into > a Windows Vista system and I have not had the time to sort out the problem. > > > Best Regards, > > > > John Holmblad > > > > Acadia Secure Networks, LLC > > *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and > emerging network service provider markets* > > * * > > > > Fred Chittenden wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:39:12 +0100 >> Simon Pickering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> does anyone have anything built to test? love to try some >>>> apps on the N810 ... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> does n810 rdesktop work to an xp computer with n810 keyboard access >> and perhaps some way of making one of the button sets work as a mouse >> right and left click? >> >> > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 simple soft case mod
Fred, please..don't get me (re)started on this longstanding and irritating oversight from the Nokia marketing team. I hope that whatever Nokia has come up with for the N810 (they have solved this problem haven't they?) will also work for the N800. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Fred Chittenden wrote: > Ok, the included n800 leather 'case' is lame.. Who hasn't had their > tablet slip out of the open ended 'case'. > > To make it less lame, attach an adhesive strip of velcro on both sides > of the top so a companion strip can be used to 'close' the top. Leave > (or cut) a hole for the chargng cord. The ear phones sneak out > the side so don't need a hole. > > Works nice, although I figure it is going to have to be sewn in place, > soon enough. I'm sure with 30 seconds of thought/hindsight, other > simple options might be done. I still haven't figured out a spot for > the ear phones. Perhaps another velcro fix? Oh well. > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Two Reasons to Celebrate in Helsinki
All, well I guess its been a good, no, outstanding, week for Finlandwhat with the launch of the Nokia N810 and capped of by a razor thin (could it have been any closer?) capture of the F1 Driver's championship by Kimi Räikkönen: http://www.formula1.com/results/driver/ -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: chinook
Fred, I can't speak to your question with respect to the N810 since I don't have one yet. I can however, confirm that RDesktop does work on the N800 and I have used/tested it by VNC'ing into my N800 by means of TigntVNC running on Windows XP SP2 and used the rdesktop app on the N800 to manage, for example, Windows Server 2003 systems. Of course the keyboard in this configuration was connected to the XP system. On the other hand, I have been unable to use this mechanism to RDP into a Windows Vista system and I have not had the time to sort out the problem. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * Fred Chittenden wrote: > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:39:12 +0100 > Simon Pickering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> does anyone have anything built to test? love to try some >>> apps on the N810 ... >>> >> > does n810 rdesktop work to an xp computer with n810 keyboard access > and perhaps some way of making one of the button sets work as a mouse > right and left click? > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 is here
All, kidding aside, I have to say that, as I would expect from Nokia, if the product ,once launched, "meets or exceeds spec", then Nokia has indeed proven itself as a "fast learning organization" with this product by a) adding some key functional capabilities that those on this list have "vocalized" during the last two years and b) "turning" a significantly updated (faster and better, if not cheaper) hardware platform in less than 12 months. It would be nice to know how much longer before the WIMAX version of the product is released. But, hey, maybe the Intel WIMAX chipset is there in the 810 and is simply awaiting a future firmware upgrade. On the other hand, because WIMAX is still somewhat "early days" and, therefore, balkanized in its deployment around the world, Nokia may be planning to launch a distinct version for the (increasing number of) markets that are deploying WIMAX services. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* Acadia Secure Networks wrote: > Jonathan, > > who cares about the keyboardis the Nokia carrying > case for the 810 available (and not just in cyberspace)? > > > Best Regards, > > > > John Holmblad > > > > Acadia Secure Networks, LLC > > *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and > emerging network service provider markets* > > * * > > > > > > > > Alan Williamson wrote: > >> and?!?!!?! :@) >> >> whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt >> the keyboard that is!) >> >> and when will it available in Europe? >> >> Jonathan Greene wrote: >> >> >>> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp >>> <http://atmasphere.net/wp> and maemoapps.com <http://maemoapps.com> as >>> well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere >>> >>> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> >> >> > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 is here
Jonathan, who cares about the keyboardis the Nokia carrying case for the 810 available (and not just in cyberspace)? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * Alan Williamson wrote: > and?!?!!?! :@) > > whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt > the keyboard that is!) > > and when will it available in Europe? > > Jonathan Greene wrote: > >> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp >> <http://atmasphere.net/wp> and maemoapps.com <http://maemoapps.com> as >> well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere >> > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo] ??
Gary, if you are running your own mail server you may want to consider a public spam filtering service, of which there are several available. I don't use one myself because my mail service provider actually does a great job, and has for years, of filtering out spam and malware infected email. Microsoft recently joined the bandwagon with respect to mail filtering services by launching its own hosted service to provide spam filtering. As far as I know, the customer's mail server does not have to be running Microsoft Exchange in order to use this service. Here is the url to the www page that explains Microsoft's service which they offer under the name of "Exchange Hosted Services": http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/services/filtering.mspx here is the url the www page for a 30 day trial: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/services/trial.mspx here is the url to the www page with the pricing ($1.75/month per month (per destination email address, I assume, and with a minimum of 5 addresses)) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/services/buy.mspx and here is a url to the datasheet for the filtering service http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/c/62ca449f-8516-4d43-ac9d-e1f85eae0122/EHS_DataSheet_Filtering_FINAL.doc In the data sheet the following claims are made with respect to the Service Level Agreement (SLA) for this service" Microsoft Exchange Hosted Filtering provides comprehensive Service Level Agreements (SLAs) backing network performance and spam and virus filtering effectiveness. The SLAs include: Filtering Network Infrastructure • Service availability: 99.999% service uptime • Email Delivery: Email delivered in seconds, with a commitment to delivery in less than two minutes Filtering Accuracy • Virus Blocking: 100% protection against all known viruses • Spam Capture: Capture of at least 95% of all spam messages • False Positive Ratio: Fewer than 1 in 250,000 messages incorrectly marked as spam Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * Gary Baribault wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Could le mailing list administrator add 'maemo' in square braces at the > beginning of the subject for the list please, or something else simmilar? > > I get a ton of spam in a day with all kinds of stupid stuff in the > subject line.. The tag at the beginning of the subject would really help! > > Thanks > > Gary Baribault > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHFfmp5BLKxPqBKDURAu5XAJ9crNWMAUbWWGfHg3W9W5LmSZDrdACgjvAk > UYJuG30G9feBPyjwKjyh210= > =DbO/ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 Advertised by Brightpoint in Wireless Week
All, fyi. The October 1, 2007 issue of Wireless Week has a full page advertisement by Brightpoint that includes the Nseries from Nokia and highlights the N95 and the N800. What is interesting here is that Brightpoint, for those who are not aware, is at the core of the corporate "middleware" of mobile phone distribution in the U.S. Most of the manufactures, Nokia included, deal with Brightpoint, who in turn, deals with the mobile service providers. I don't know precisely what share Brightpoint has in the market for handset U.S. distribution but I know it is large. Here is the url to the www page that is mentioned in the advert:' www.nseriesatbrightpoint.com -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[Fwd: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices]
All, fyi. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* Original Message Subject:Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:15:09 -0400 From: Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Acadia Secure Networks To: Mike Klein References: Mike, WM5 originally had DUN, although some operators apparently suppressed it. My understanding is that Microsoft eventually removed the DUN software components from a later version of the WM5 build so that, for example, CD's from the operators with the WM5 object code no longer had the DUN .exe (or perhaps it was a .dll). In any case I suspect that an enterprising user could, if they so chose, find the necessary WM5 DUN components on the www and install them to get DUN working in WM5 by first googling "dun wm5". and proceeding from there. I know that Bluetooth DUN works on WM5, or, at least on the build version that I have (OS 5.1.195 - (Build14928.2.2.0)), because I use WM5 DUN + the N800 whenever I am "on the road" for business. I have also used USB DUN between my WM5 device and a Windows 2000 Laptop successfully. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* Mike Klein wrote: > I believe DUN was removed from WM5 phones and will be reintroduced with > WM6it might've been carriers which asked for it disabled. > > They would prefer you be on an explicit tethering plan. Bluetooth PAN is > now default instead of DUN. > > > mike > > Steve Yelvington wrote: > >> I was surprised that the reviewer had troubles getting online through >> Bluetooth and a mobile phone, as that's one of the coolest and easiest >> things about the N800. By contrast, getting either Windows or OS X to >> connect via GPRS can be hellishly difficult. >> >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> >> > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Someone has tried Devicescape?
David, it looks like this is an alternative to the IPass service which itself started out in the days of dial-up service aggregation and which allowed, for example, international travelers (aka road warriors) to connect to different dial-up IP networks that were part of the IPass "federation". Ipass has itself evolved to now incorporate WIFI hotspot aggregation as well. Here is the url to the Ipass www site: http://www.ipass.com/ Ipass also requires a client to be installed on the mobile device. Ipass has clients for Windows XP/Vista and for Windows Mobile but not for Linux devices. Ipass is widely used by corporate users that have the increasingly common requirement for mobile access to their enterprise network. One nice feature of Ipass is that the user has only one credential (e.g. ID/PW) that can be used on any network that is part of the Ipass "federation". Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * David Rudder wrote: > I'm not sure of the purpose of this. Doesn't the N800 already store > your favorite wifi hotspots? > > I use MAC address filtering instead of WEP keys, so it's possible that > DeviceScape does a better job of storing keys? > > Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> have anybody tried this app?: >> http://www.devicescape.com/pub/download.do >> >> Thanks and best regards, >> >> >> > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Someone has tried Devicescape?
David, well.yes. The service IS listed as Beta so one can expect failures of various sorts. I guess I need to get a second N800 to use as a test system. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Rudder wrote: > You know what they say. "Never attribute to malice that which can be > explained by stupidity". > > I'm a software developer and I've made exactly these kinds of mistakes > more than once. DeviceScape doesn't strike me as the sort of company > that would intentionally disobey your settings. It seems to me like more > of an oversight. > > Also, "viral" usually means that it spreads itself to other machines. I > don't think DeviceScape is doing that. It's just losing preferences. > > -Dave > > John Rudd wrote: > >> I downloaded it, and installed it. Didn't find it immediately useful to >> my situation, so I turned it off, thinking that I'd try it again later >> when I was able to get them specific information for the wifi login page >> at work, so that they could support it. >> >> And it turned itself back on when I next powered up. >> >> And I turned it off again, and unchecked it in the Navigation control panel. >> >> And it turned itself back on when I next powered up, having also >> re-enabled itself on the Navigation control panel. >> >> So I did it again, in case I had missed a step. >> >> And it did it again. >> >> So I uninstalled it. And wont ever use it again. >> >> >> Anything that decides to over-ride my decision to not use it is a >> complete piece of crap. On the basis of its viral nature alone, I >> heavily recommend against using it. Who knows what other nefarious >> things its doing under the hood (and, yes, I consider "re-enabling >> itself", after the user specifically and directly disabled it, to be >> "nefarious"). Or if it's not doing it now, what things the company >> might add to it once you're comfortable with it over-riding your >> settings for you. >> >> >> >> Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> have anybody tried this app?: >>> http://www.devicescape.com/pub/download.do >>> >>> Thanks and best regards, >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> >> > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
James, re: > PS I'm finding a lot of things working much nicer in the new update > beyond the documented updates. Like tabs in the browser! Then again I'm > just glad I decided to wait recently. I'd done a number of "fixes" that I > unfixed and I needed a clean install almost did it the day before the > release! *whew* Tabs in the browser? Is that the Opera Browser or the Mozilla browser beta? I seem to recall an earlier authoritative post in this thread that asserted that this firmware release was ONLY a bug fix release, not a new features release. Can someone from please state clearly what are the new features in this release if there are any? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 08:12:02 Fred C wrote: > >> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:36:10 -0700 >> >> Thomas Leavitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What I'm not understanding here is that the tablet is a debian Linux >>> system, in it's essence... what's the issue with just making the >>> updated packages available, for the power users and tweakers willing >>> to go through the work of a manual update? >>> >> What I'm not understanding is the big rush to update for a few minor >> fixes, especially if there's the known potential of extra user overhead >> getting the update and apps all sorted out. If it aint broke, ... >> > > It was broke. It tended to brick SD cards. Want some? They make fair > guitar > pics now. > > >> Or put another way, my Clinc's software runs over 1000 per year for >> updates and support. A couple month's ago the released a major >> update/upgrade which I've still not installed. It takes months to >> sort out the bugs in this sort of stuff, plus the staff has to be >> brought up to speed overnight. So I'm sitting back and waiting for the >> dust to settle so when I do the install (10 stations), it's rock solid >> so I don't have to hassle of training the staff how do deal with a lot >> of kludge workarounds to get work done, or (worse case) data crash >> which would caase everything to come to a halt. I'm paying decent bucks >> (along with 3 other clinics) for this update 'service', which I'm >> choosing to go slow on. Ditto for the megabuck software running my >> dental cad/cam system. >> > > Wow I have the luxury of running 4 data centers that I watch update > themselves. Note, none of them are windows. I don't have the luxury of > waiting for security updates etc. That would be for me, suicide. > > >> It's laughable that a bunch of whiner techno geeks fully expect their >> newly released, reasonably functional, internet tablet to be provided >> with instant FREE updates tto match their every whim. As far as I can >> tell (by clinical software standards), the OS that most of us are >> currently using is really a modestly stable early beta version of the >> final stable OS. >> > > This is linux. That's how we work, release early and often. No one is > complaining about the idea of the fix. Just the way in which updates are > managed. It's how we work. We not only complain we also discuss and solve. > The whining you so fondly mention is for us a part of the process. > Communication is the key. > >> We're the guinea pigs of this project/product, >> complete with a significant segment of this user population who insist >> on running on their damn noisey treadmill all night, who then >> spend their days complaining about all the work they 'have' to do at >> night. It's seriously funny stuff guys... >> > > I stopped being a guinea ping in 1996 when I removed my last MS install and > went Unix/Linux. I'm not at all a guinea pig now. I lost guinea pig status > because I chose to be a partner in the development of the products future. > I've already seen a number of changes made just because of others who chose > to join in on this effort. (Note, I need to contribute more, I know). Once > is a guinea pig only if you allow yourself to be experimented on. One is > never the guinea pig if you are helping to run the experiment. > > James > > PS I'm finding a lot of things working much nicer in the new update > beyond the documented updates. Like tabs in the browser! Then again I'm > just glad I decided to wait recently. I'd done a number of "fixes" that I > unfixed and I needed a clean install almost did it the day before the > release! *whew* > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
Nick, I share your pain and I wholeheartedly agree. The product will not find traction in the business market (if that is a market in which Nokia has interest for this product) unless this problem is fixed. Also it would be helpful if Nokia would clearly specify ALL of the changes in this release. Is there any reason not to? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks *serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets*** * * Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > > I can’t believe that Nokia still expects its users to reload > everything in order to install a patch. This has got to be the most > poorly designed OS I’ve ever encountered. Fixing this should be their > #1 priority. > > I’m sorry to vent but this makes no sense. Many, like me, held off > updating the last ‘update’ so bugs could be worked out. I waited until > almost mid-August before updating and it took me a few hours to > re-install all the applications I had before. To expect us to do that > every time a new release comes out is absurd. I’ve done this twice > now. No way will I install this patch and go through that headache > again! *Nokia, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS FIXED???* > > After the first release a message went out saying the next release > would fix it. I bought my N800 the day it was released and here we > are, three releases later, and still no fix in sight. L > > Nick. > > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Windows Mobile Phone detected as a PDA - can't set as Phone
Ivan, your question led me to submit a query to Google which came up with the an explanation available at the www page whose url is http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx from a member of the Microsoft Windows Mobile team blog that explains why Microsoft removed Bluetooth DUN from the AKU3 version of Windows Mobile 5 . Note in the article that Microsoft DOES still ship the Bluetooth DUN to the OEM's and they CAN if they so choose make it available on the handset. Note also that, given the amount of negative feedback that Microsoft has gotten about the removal of Bluetooth DUN, that, they are going to put it back in in a future release of Windows Mobile 6. Here is the text of the blog post where that decision is indicated (highlighted in boldface type by me): > Actually, Microsoft did not remove Bluetooth DUN completely. We > still ship this technology to our OEMs. It is included in an > optional package that OEMs and operators can decide to ship on a > per device basis. Internet Sharing is also in an optional > package. We did change one thing though. Internet Sharing is > included by default and Bluetooth DUN no longer is. > > > > Bluetooth DUN is a legacy technology that is likely to disappear > over time. Especially when you look at the great experience > Internet Sharing provides with Bluetooth PAN. It also does not > make sense for cellular radios to continue supporting a legacy > interface just to enable Bluetooth DUN. In the past we received a > lot of criticism about Modem Link, especially related to > usability. For this reason we decided not to include it by default. > > > > *Anyway, based on continued feedback from the community, we have > changed our minds! We will bring Bluetooth DUN back by default in > a future WM6 AKU release.* Keep in mind that OEMs and operators > still have the final say whether DUN will end up on a specific device. I suspect that Microsoft was also getting pressure from some carriers, who do not want to have their mobile handsets being used as layer 1 devices (modems). In my own case the CD that shipped from Verizon Wireless with my Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone (an XV6700) does have the wmodem.exe app on it. It so happens that the handset, as shipped to me had the application installed but hidden. I am currently running with an OS version that has the AKU2 feature set. There may be a similar workaround for getting Bluetooth DUN to work on your particular Windows Mobile 5 handset but to get you started here is the url to a www page (one of many) that has an "how-to" thread on the subject for the XV6700. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=827559 In case you have difficulty figuring out which AKU is running on your handset, here is the url to an article at the msmobiles.com www site that may be helpful: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5857.html And here is the url to an article that maps the AKU# to the OS version number ranges for that particular AKU#. http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=OS+Versions Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Ivan N. Zlatev wrote: > I own a Windows Mobile 5 Phone device (HTC Trinity) and a N800. My > issue is that the device is detected as a PDA and not a Phone (via > Bluetooth), so I am unable to set it as the phone in the control > panel. Any ideas on how this can be resolved? Do I have to file a bug > and how to get debug information? > > Also does someone have a clue how can I express a vote for the > Bluetooth PAN support mentioned here > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195. I seem not to have access > to the actual proposal here - > https://maemo.org/community/wiki/bluetooth_pan_proposal.html. > > Regards. > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Is the IPhone ready for Business?
All, here is an interesting short video from the CNET www site that poses the question of whether or not the Iphone is ready for business use. It provides some anecdotal insights into what it will take to wean (or perhaps, more appropriately pry the fingers of) the business user off of the RIM blackberry. http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6206834.html?tag=ne.video.6113819 The same question applies to the N800 and its future derivatives as well. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Sprint WIMAX www site now UP
All, for those on this list interested in following the progress of Sprint and Clearwire as they roll out WIMAX in the U.S., here is the url to the home page of Sprint's new www site for the Xhom service: http://www.xohm.com/index_a.html -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: Re: Fwd: Skype on N800]
Denis, thanks for sharing the post re Skype. I have to believe that eBay management will be concerned enough about protecting the "reputational equity" that they have built over the years with their core business, auction services by either a) fixing the Skype software or at least b) explaining what the software is doing even if this turns out to be an innocuous artifact of the way Skype works and not some sinister plot for global domination by ebay or anyone else. Then too "security through obscurity" is not a very strong security model, so perhaps ebay will eventually find a way to open up its source code and find some other way to protect its intellectual property in the Skype service for which it paid a tidy sum. One way to keep Skype and its firewall evading ways off of the enterprise Microsoft desktop is to use a software restriction policy (hash rule) built into the Microsoft Windows Active Directory/Group Policy Architecture. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks DZ wrote: > Hi, > > Have anybody tried to compile Wengo Phone for N800? > > Skype is very contradictive to linux tablet spirit > - this software uses proprietary closed and encrypted protocol (closed > also means weak); > - written using obfuscation in software (decryption and checks also uses > additional n800 power and resources) > http://www.secdev.org/conf/skype_BHEU06.pdf > (http://www.xakep.ru/post/38543/default.asp); > - according to latest reports reads sensitive user information and nobody > knows why (because software is closed source and obfuscated) and how it > can be used by crackers > (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/26/1312256&from=rss). > > So, Wengo is viable alternative to the Skype. > > Thanks, > Denis > > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:24:45 +0400, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> Sorry replied to the individual not the list -- man do i hate that >> "feature" of the list (and yes for the record, i completely disagree >> with every point made by that link that attempts to justify it) :) >> >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Skype on N800 >> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:23:31 +0100 >> From: Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Organization: Blog-City Ltd >> To: James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>> The last point above has value in light of a recent development. I >>> could >>> point to 2 things 1. the shear hype surround the iPhone. and second >>> the >>> expert surfing done by the RAZR team managing to release a new "color" >>> or >>> other change every time sales began to slow. >>> >> I agree -- the hype around the iPhone has been interesting to watch. >> Especially as they address the awful onscreen keyboard usage which seems >> to be getting people in a bit of a tizz. >> >> If you look at the video on the Apple site; they have everything the >> N800 has, except for one rather cool little feature. But that is >> something i am sure nokia could easily add in with a next release >> (predicts which key you are going to press next and makes that box >> bigger). >> >> Nokia -- get thy head out of the sand and take a leaf out of that Jobs >> boy book -- either start hyping up your cool stuff, or give US THE TOOLS >> and we'll do it for you! >> >> > > > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Latest Release of UKMP does not Install Correctly
Marius, I used the version of UKMP that was available yesterday on the www page whose url is http://maemo.org/downloads/product/ukmp/ using the "click to install" feature on that www page. I am using the latest released version of the Internet Tablet OS for the N800. I just went to the above www page and noticed that the version number seems to have been modified from yesterday. It now reads 1.621. So I went ahead and tried the "click to install" and this time it worked! Interestingly, the message that came up while it was installing specified that it was installing version 1.61 not 1.621. Furthermore when I navigate to the "Installed Apps" section of the N800 Application Manager and click on the mediacenter application to check the version number, it tells me that I have version 1.61 installed, not 1.621. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Marius Vollmer wrote: > "ext Acadia Secure Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> I downloaded the latest version (1.62) of the UKMP application today >> but it failed to install on two attempts. >> > > This might be because of a corrupted (or non-standard) .deb file or > because of bugs in busybox tar. Could you point me to the exact > UKMP-1.62.deb file you have tried? > > What IT OS version are you running? > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Latest Release of UKMP does not Install Correctly
All, I downloaded the latest version (1.62) of the UKMP application today but it failed to install on two attempts. Below is the contents of the text of the log file that was created. Any Ideas on how to correct this would be appreciated. +++ osso-application-installer 4.46, UI version 2 /usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb' /usr/bin/dpkg --install '/var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb' Selecting previously deselected package mediacenter. (Reading database ... 18182 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking mediacenter (from /var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb) ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy) dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing /var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb (--install): short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/pixmaps/bg.png') Errors were encountered while processing: /var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb /usr/bin/dpkg --purge `/usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb' Package` dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mediacenter which isn't installed. /usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb' /usr/bin/dpkg --install '/var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb' (Reading database ... 18182 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking mediacenter (from /var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb) ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy) dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing /var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb (--install): short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/pixmaps/bg2.png') Errors were encountered while processing: /var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb /usr/bin/dpkg --purge `/usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/var/tmp/UKMP-1.62.deb' Package` dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mediacenter which isn't installed. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: "click to install" for UKMP Does not work Properly
Tukka, thanks for the info Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Tuukka Tolvanen wrote: > Acadia Secure Networks wrote: > >> I tried to use the "click to install" for the UKMP app on the www >> page whose url is: >> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/ukmp >> >> but the N800 on only allows me to save an .deb file characterized as >> "unknown". It does not, as it should, if I understand "click to >> install" correctly, ask for permission to run/install the file. I >> have python and mplayer installed so I don't think that that is the >> problem. > > This is https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 > > 't. > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
"click to install" for UKMP Does not work Properly
All, I tried to use the "click to install" for the UKMP app on the www page whose url is: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/ukmp but the N800 on only allows me to save an .deb file characterized as "unknown". It does not, as it should, if I understand "click to install" correctly, ask for permission to run/install the file. I have python and mplayer installed so I don't think that that is the problem. Any ideas? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX
Gary, fyi, here are the links to some additional info on WIMAX + Nokia + Sprint http://www.wimaxday.net/site/2007/03/14/nokia-to-build-wimax-network-for-sprint-nextel-in-the-heart-of-texas/ http://www.wimaxday.net/site/2007/02/01/motorola-and-texas-instruments-will-develop-wimax-handsets-for-2008-launch/ Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Gary wrote: > The article below mentions discussion of Sprint's WiMAX N800 "on the > Maemo mailing list and other places" but I've not seen it here on > 'users.' Has this been discussed already or have I been asleep at the > wheel? Either way it's exciting news for users here in the States. > Perhaps this will encourage some non-US 3G carriers to work with Nokia > as well. > > -Gary > > > "At the LinuxWorld conference in San Francisco this week, /LinuxDevices/ > spoke with Dr. Ari Jaaksi, Nokia's director of open source. ... Jaaksi > said the WiMAX-enabled N800 would 'most probably' include WiFi and > Bluetooth as well. He felt that interference problems could be > minimized, noting, 'We had the same interference with Bluetooth and WiFi > initially, but we solved that.' ... He said the new device would likely > get more publicity during the process of FCC approval. However, he > declined to announce any timeframe for when that might happen, in > deference to Sprint. Jaaksi declined to say whose WiMAX chip will go > into the planned device. Noting that the WiMAX specifications continue > to evolve, he said he believed the device would support Mobile WiMAX > initially, with support for additional WiMAX variants to follow. ... > Asked whether Nokia might also consider adding a cellular radio chip to > its Linux-based Internet tablet in the future, Jaaksi replied, 'It's > more a business model than a technology barrier.'" > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8069179684.html > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX
Mike, here are some comments and observations about Verizon Wireless EVDO usage policy and its (and ATT's) new Mobile TV service which provides an alternate means for delivering broadcast (but not on demand) network content to a mobile device. 1.I don't think that Verizon, at least, is filtering its EVDO packet traffic explicitly based on the protocol or TCP/UDP port #. Verizon Wireless has settled on an Acceptable Use Policy for its EVDO broadband service that imposes a 5gb/month threshold limit, above which the contract is deemed eligible for cancellation/termination by Verizon Wireless. In my opinion, it would be better for Verizon Wireless to impose a surcharge for such excess usage than to cancel the users contract. 2. Here is the url to a www page at the EVDO info www site that refers to that limit imposed by Verizon Wireless and provides a table of how much "content", on average, a user could receive and still remain within that 5gb monthly envelope. http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/846/63/ VOIP, for example, is a relatively narrowband application so, unless you were using VOIP all day/all the time via, say Skype or some other service, you would not be likely to hit the aforementioned 5 gb limit because of that application alone, or, for that matter, streaming audio either. Video is the "killer app" in this case which, if used will "kill" the user's service contract with Verizon Wireless. 3. The setting of a monthly usage cap is probably the least-costly way for Verizon Wireless to police usage since they can, if they so choose, only perform the usage check at the end of the month, which is a lot easier for them to implement than a real-time packet by packet rate limit check. 4. Earlier this year I attended an event sponsored by the (US) Congressional Internet Caucus Advisory Committee on the future of the Internet. This event was attended by all of the major interested parties (wireless and wired telcos, Google, Microsoft, etc.) and I spoke to one of the Verizon Wireless marketing execs about their EVDO broadband service, and their usage limitation policy. He followed the "party line" in responding to the effect that Verizon Wireless imposes the 5gb rule to "assure the quality of their overall EVDO service". 5. More recently I met an individual at Google in the Washington D.C. area who is part of the recently formed Google lobbying organization. This is the group that made the case to the FCC (with partial success) to make sure that the upcoming auction in the us of the upper 700 mhz band allows open access. I briefly demoed the N800 tethered via Bluetooth to a handset that was on-net with the Verizon EVDO service. 5. Verizon Wireless as well as ATT is launching a live (QVGA quality) broadcast video service using 700mhz channel acquired by Qualcomm. Qualcomm converted the channel to digital using a patented (its Qualcomm of course) OFDM derivative technology marketed by Qualcomm as MediaFlo^1,2,3,4,5 Mediaflow capable handsets^6 (Samsung SCH-u620 and the LG VX9400) are already on the market and Verizon has started rolling this service out in selected markets in the U.S. under the service name VCAST Mobile TV^7 . Verizon Wireless, and now ATT thus each have a built incentive to limit the range of capabilities of their broadband data service (EVDO in the case of Verizon wireless and HSDPA in the case of ATT) when it comes to video so that users will have an incentive to instead purchase the Mobile TV service. Of course with Mediaflo, the user is limited to the channels (8 currently but with capacity for up to 20 channels) and content that is being broadcast by the networks at each point in time and, as far as I know, there is not yet any DVR capability in the aforementioned handsets for time-shifting content playback. It remains to be seen whether or not mobile TV service will be successful in the U.S. or elsewhere (I think it will be) and which technology, Mediaflo or DVB-H (backed by the EU) will win out. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaFLO 2. http://www.qualcomm.com/mediaflo/index.shtml 3. http://www.qualcomm.com/mediaflo/news/pdf/network_diagram.pdf 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Mobility 5. http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=136850 6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi53R2CDIgg 7. http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=mobileTV#grid Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Mike Klein wrote: > For use other than simple voice (gsm, 3g) a cellular chip would present > some REAL political obstacles in US of course. > > Most US carriers (except Sprint) terms of servi
Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX
Gary, I believe it was discussed previously and I myself have had off list discussions as well as conversations with Sprint folk about this and about WIMAX generally. I have a kind of personal interest in the outcome of this since I was one of the so-called "founding executives" from one of the 4 companies that were brought together to form Sprint in 1986. We always got it/had it right when it came to data and data networking and we were years ahead of all of our competitors in both data products and services. Today's Washington Post1 also has an article about Sprint's current predicament in terms of market share loss and how they are positioning their WIMAX deployment, jointly with Clearwire, as a way to reverse their current downward trend in market share. 1. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701927.html?hpid=sec-tech Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Gary wrote: > The article below mentions discussion of Sprint's WiMAX N800 "on the > Maemo mailing list and other places" but I've not seen it here on > 'users.' Has this been discussed already or have I been asleep at the > wheel? Either way it's exciting news for users here in the States. > Perhaps this will encourage some non-US 3G carriers to work with Nokia > as well. > > -Gary > > > "At the LinuxWorld conference in San Francisco this week, /LinuxDevices/ > spoke with Dr. Ari Jaaksi, Nokia's director of open source. ... Jaaksi > said the WiMAX-enabled N800 would 'most probably' include WiFi and > Bluetooth as well. He felt that interference problems could be > minimized, noting, 'We had the same interference with Bluetooth and WiFi > initially, but we solved that.' ... He said the new device would likely > get more publicity during the process of FCC approval. However, he > declined to announce any timeframe for when that might happen, in > deference to Sprint. Jaaksi declined to say whose WiMAX chip will go > into the planned device. Noting that the WiMAX specifications continue > to evolve, he said he believed the device would support Mobile WiMAX > initially, with support for additional WiMAX variants to follow. ... > Asked whether Nokia might also consider adding a cellular radio chip to > its Linux-based Internet tablet in the future, Jaaksi replied, 'It's > more a business model than a technology barrier.'" > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8069179684.html > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Case - Still not here
Quim, well that is good news. I will order mine tout suite. And no, I was not referring to the openmoko "developer" case but the "end user" case which is shown above left of the big case in the picture whose url you provided. Having said that, the developer case itself seems to have a nice, impactful "presentation" layer to use, for example, when walking into, say, a US FCC public hearing on the upcoming 700 mhz band auction to argue in favor of "open network" versus "closed network" or, as I think of it, it in favor of the "smart (user controlled) device/dumb network"^1 paradigm. A replay in the world of wireless communications of the Carterphone decision^2 . Skype is on the right side of this (re)-debate in the U.S. ^ ^1. http://www.rageboy.com/stupidnet.html 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carterfone Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have just checked Nokia and Nseries websites and the case is there: > http://europe.nokia.com/n800case > > http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n800,accessories > > > On the other hand, are you comparing the N800 case people has been > asking for with > http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html ? > > I have carried Openmoko's 'mysterious black box' and it's pretty cool. > Hackers love it, well done. But it's nothing you drop in your pocket. > It's simply not a case. > > Quim > > > >> All, >> >> well this is not good.! Openmoko already has their carrying >> case available for order: >> >>http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-base-00-stdkit.html >> >> Does this mean that the Taiwanese companies are "hitting" on >> some marketing "cylinders" where Nokia is not? >> >> Speaking of Taiwan and China, now let's see who is the first >> to put a WIMAX chipset into an opensource mobile device. Given >> that Sprint has just announced that ZTE^1,2 (a Chinese >> manufacturer) is going to be Sprint's supplier for Cardbus/USB >> WIMAX adapters, I anticipate that the Openmoko team will push >> to get a WIMAX version of their platform "tout suite" and get >> it into the hands of the just announced Sprint/Clearwire WIMAX JV^3 . >> >> >> 1. http://telephonyonline.com/wimax/technology/sprint_zte_cpe_071707/ >> >> 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZTE >> >> 3. http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=17520 >> >> -- >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> John Holmblad >> >> >> >> Acadia Secure Networks >> >> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> >> > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 Case - Still not here
All, well this is not good.! Openmoko already has their carrying case available for order: http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-base-00-stdkit.html Does this mean that the Taiwanese companies are "hitting" on some marketing "cylinders" where Nokia is not? Speaking of Taiwan and China, now let's see who is the first to put a WIMAX chipset into an opensource mobile device. Given that Sprint has just announced that ZTE^1,2 (a Chinese manufacturer) is going to be Sprint's supplier for Cardbus/USB WIMAX adapters, I anticipate that the Openmoko team will push to get a WIMAX version of their platform "tout suite" and get it into the hands of the just announced Sprint/Clearwire WIMAX JV^3 . 1. http://telephonyonline.com/wimax/technology/sprint_zte_cpe_071707/ 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZTE 3. http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=17520 -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: mozilla browser
Dan, thanks for the heads up! I have already fired it up on my N800 and I immediately noticed one nice "feature" that the factory installed browser from Nokia does not seem to have. When accessing the N800 browser via VNC client (TightVNC) and x11vnc, the mouse movements actually get mapped from the TightVNC image to the N800. This work effort looks to me like a classic case of "underpromise/overdeliver". Congratulations to everyone who made this possible! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Dan Dennedy wrote: > FYI - a new browser using mozilla engine: > > http://browser.garage.maemo.org/ > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[Fwd: Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade]
Mike, for some reason the original post did not go to the list. Here it is again. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Original Message Subject:Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:01:26 -0400 From: Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Acadia Secure Networks To: Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, how does Nokia incorporate/distribute bug fixes in between releases like the one which just occurred? Are bug fixes silently downloaded/installed automatically or does the user have to take some action to install them, for example, by means of a special repository for Nokia bug fixes? How can I tell if I am getting the bug fixes in the Nokia firmware? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Mike Klein wrote: > I'll be a good boy and starting visiting bug system from now on. > > I updated bug descr to indicate latest firmware still has problem...it > seems fix was applied 2 days before release of firmware (something > like that) so I doubt it is in. > > Hopefully this is visual only and doesn't cause errors when you get > close to actual limits. > > > mike > > Neil MacLeod wrote: >> Mike Klein wrote: >> >>> My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff per control >>> panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near >>> everything I wanted and still had breathing room. >>> >>> I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!? >>> >>> >> Have you checked bug 1114[1] - it could be what you are describing. From the >> vague and confusing comments left in the bug by Nokia/Maemo it's hard to say >> if it's fixed in this firmware or not, but the chances are it's not (I mean, >> what was?) >> >> 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114 >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Red Pill Mode and Package updates
All, while viewing the installed apps in "red-pill" mode on the N800 with the latest version of the OS installed, I noticed that there are several updates available including those for apps (or should I call them packages?) called magic:sys, libbluetooth2, and several others. However, when I switch back to blue pill mode these updates disappear from view and the app manager indicates that there are not updates to install. This gives rise to several questions: 1. If these updates that I can see when the device is configured in red pill mode are updates to the core OS that have been released by Nokia (bug fixes perhaps?) then shouldn't these be visible in blue pill mode as well? 2. Is there any reason not to install these updates, or at least the ones from Nokia that are part of the Nokia supported software baseline? 3. Is is the case that even though these updates do not appear when in blue pill mode, they will in fact get automatically downloaded/installed by the OS (Kind of a OS patch level self maintaining capability if you will)? From what I now understand about red vs blue pill mode, it seems to be conceptually similar to the option provided within the Microsoft Windows OS/file system wherein Windows Explorer can be configured to either hide or make visible, files that are OS related. The difference seems to be that, in the case of the N800 OS, the hiding is done at the application (package?) level and not the file level. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What can I use my N800 for?
Kahil, thanks for sharing the info re Gizmo + Asterisk. Supporting Asterisk was a smart move for the Gizmo team. For those interested to learn more here is the url to the www page at the Gizmo project www site that discusses Asterisk interoperability: http://gizmoproject.com/asterisk.html Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Kahlil Johnson wrote: > N770 is a much under power device compared to your linux desktop. Also > the video that comes with the n770 is the one that puts a lot of buts. > Fortunately this is free software and there is already Mplayer for the > N770. Mplayer will play much more formats with less hassle since it > has resizing capabilities. > > However making N770 videos is not that hard. N770 plays Xvid videos > pretty much, so you will have to export as xvid. But also if you have > mythtv box you will be able to encode 'on the fly' to the n770. > > There are also other scripts that will help you resize and re-format > your video such as mencoder and ffmpeg. The tutorials are on the maemo > website. 3rd party scripts include a perl script to easy encode N770. > I use 770-encoder.pl . > www.bleb.org/software <http://www.bleb.org/software> > > About Gizmo, you can connect to a Asterisk server you dont need a > gizmo account and you dont need to put money to get a gizmo account. > > And the reason why it gets great reviews is that it can do so many > things. You just need to learn how to do them. Fortunately we are here > to share tips and tricks. > > On 7/5/07, *David Rudder* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > Hi, > I'm getting frustrated with my Nokia N800 and I hope someone can help > me. I bought this for a couple reasons, the 2 big ones are for SIP > video calling and for playing videos off my MythTV. I have been > totally > unsuccessful so far. > > The media player finds my MythTV server, but it refuses to play any > videos. It turns out that the videos are stored in standard > definition > format, which the Nokia can't play. Why do they advertise it's video > capabilities if it can't play standard videos? I'm using a WinTV > PVR-500 to record MPEG-4 videos. They play great on my Linux desktop > and my Windows laptop, but they refuse to play on my N800, even > though > Nokia advertises that it plays MPEG-4. Can anyone help? > I've tried transcoding files to flash, but they look awful and are > very > choppy. Not watchable. I also tried transcoding down to a lower > resolution with similar problems. At least they play, but what > good is > a 800x600 screen if the videos have to be 288x160? And, even > then, the > fast forward doesn't work and it regularly hangs and the video and > audio > doesn't sync. > > One big features that Nokia advertises is the ability to do video > conferencing. Can someone tell me how to set it up so I can > conference > from my Nokia to my Linux desktop machine? Apparently, you have > to use > the Nokia Internet Calling Invitation software, which isn't ported to > Linux. I tried the Windows version on my laptop but it refused to run > until I bought a webcam. There's no support for one-way video with > two-way audio? And, no support for Linux? *sheesh* > > Beyond that, I can't seem to get a normal SIP voice client at all. > Tapioca doesn't support SIP. Minisip supposedly works, but the > repository is down. Gizmo supports SIP, but only if you have a Gizmo > account. I'm using Allo.com <http://Allo.com>. Can someone > please, please tell me where > to get a SIP client? > > Is anyone out there having any success with their N800? So far, I've > paid $400 for a brick I can play "pipe panic" on. Why does this get > such great reviews? > > -Dave > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org <mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > <https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users> > > > > > -- > Kahlil Johnson > "Ya tengo GMAIL!!" > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone
Kevin, and it looks like Apple, has, in fact,. "bent the pins", on this device, moreso than on , say Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0, or 6.0 based devices (which are in fact quite user extensible, witness the software product portfolio available at handago) by dis-allowing the user from installing arbitrary software "apps" on it. This product is driven as much by the itunes business model (ipod = high class razor, tunes = blade) than anything else. ATT and Apple can now "collaborate" on extending Itunes dominance to other forms of media content. I would be interested to know how long ATT is going to have exclusivity on the Iphone. If it is more than say 6 months, then that will give iphone competitors time to sell/design/build competing solutions to the other mobile service providers, which they, are probably already doing. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:32:24PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: > >> "Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the >> iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. >> Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, >> > > David Pogue on NPR this morning said essentially the same thing. His biggest > beef was the fact that it was tied to Cingular. Other than that, a nice and > useful phone that is parked about in the middle of the price range for phones > these days. > > I'd love to get a chance to play with one, but will not be an early adopter > this time. > > K > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone
All, fyi. Here are two articles that provide some data (or at least usage) backed commentary on the Iphone: http://www.parksassociates.com/free_data/downloads/parks-iPhone.pdf The above document is free but requires registration. And this from Walt Mossberg at the WSJ who has also reviewed the Nokia N800: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118289311361649057.html?mod=hps_us_inside_today In his words, "Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, and its clever finger-touch interface, which dispenses with a stylus and most buttons, works well, though it sometimes adds steps to common functions." -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Exporting Outlook contacts for Import into N800 Contacts App
All I have tried exporting my Microsoft Outlook 2007 contacts in two different file formats, .pst, and .csv for import into the N800 contacts app.The app does not even recognize the .pst format and with the .csv format it corrupts the imported information extensively. For example, it ends up adding a large number of contacts "unnamed" with nothing in them. Has anyone else had success in exporting from Outlook into the N800 contacts app? If so, how did you do it? I would think that Nokia would have made sure that this export/import process worked flawlessly given the popularity of Microsoft Outlook for calendaring and contacts management so perhaps I have missed a step that is not well documented in the Nokia documentation. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Does osso-xterm support command line parameters ?
David, right question, wrong choice of command. The ping command is not support in the instantiation of busybox that is implemented in the N800 OS. If, at the osso-xterm command prompt, you input the text "busybox" (without the quotes) it will list the commands that are supported in the N800 version. Ping is NOT one of those commands. You will notice after doing so that there are some fairly obscure commands that are supported so it does mystify me as to why Ping is not one of those. Here is the url to the www page to learn more about busybox itself: http://busybox.net/ Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks David Hautbois wrote: > Hi > Does osso-xterm support command line parameters ? > Like this : > > osso-xterm -e "ping www.yahoo.fr" > > I don't find any documentation. > All my tests failed. > > Thanks > > David. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Dock station for Nokia770/N800
Michael, from the beginning of my awareness of the Internet Tablet form factor product ~2 years ago I have been thinking about how a docking station could be created for exactly the purpose you mention, i.e.."...as control device for music and home control systems". What I would like to see is a docking station that could either be a) used as a free standing device cradle, or, alternatively, b) mounted in a shallow recessed wall box with AC power where the device could be easily "unmounted" for handheld use.or alternatively, left in the wall box and used while mounted. With proper foresight a savvy mechanical designer, I think, could come up with a design that could be worked into both of the above applications. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Michael Stepanov wrote: > Hi, > > I have a hardware feature request/question. Since Nokia770/N800 is > used as control device for music and home control systems - > http://smart-home-blog.com/archives/612 > <http://smart-home-blog.com/archives/612>, > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/269352531_c811dd9951_s.jpg, > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770 > <http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770>, it'd be > nice to have a dock station for the internet tablet. Is Nokia team > planning to create it? > > -- > Cheers, > Michael > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround
Marius, thanks for creating/sharing that www page. Concerning your wishlist item "VNCserver", have you tried using xllvnc? For my own needs it seems to work quite well with Tightvnc on the client side aside from the problem of not registering stylus clicks on the left ~cm column of the screen. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks * * Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:18:08PM +0200, Wahlau - wrote: > >> well, i think the N800 must have somehow read this mail itself - during my >> trip last week, the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press the >> power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet will >> not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery. >> > > This happened to me twice. It's not pleasant. The latest firmware > fixed the "won't unlock" bug, thankfully. > > >> it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) - i >> ended up with the n800 rebooting itself mysteriously over and over again. >> > > At least that part never happened to me. > > >> This symptom repeats with or without memory card. As soon as i get Internet >> connection again, i found out some had such rebooting issues too. So i have >> no choice but to reflash the unit. >> >> now i have the latest flash installed, without all the applications i have >> installed earlier. time to reinstall things. >> > > I created a web page for my own convenience, with links to .install > files for all the applications I found useful: > http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash-n800.html > > New firmwares appear from time to time, and it's easier to upgrade when > you've all the steps written down in front of you. > > Marius Gedminas > > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround
All, for many years my Saturday's have been at least partially occupied by our childrens' sports activities and in the springtime that means either soccer (aka football) or lacrosse. Today was no different except that I forgot to bring my FM radio + earbuds to listen while watching the contest. Actually what happened was that I got the "bums rush" from my daughter who would not tolerate my going back in the house to get one more item that I had forgotten because we were pushing the limit timewise. My first thought was, hey, no problem, I can use the FM tuner on my N800 which I DID bring along as well as my mobile phone. But the flaw in that strategy, I then realized was: no earbuds, therefore no antenna, therefore no FM. Bummer. The I realized, wait a minute, I could use my N800 tethered to my mobile phone's EVDO service as a packet radio. In the U.S. most of the larger market public radio stations also have a Internet feed and sure enough the feed for my favorite station came through loud and clear through the semi-cheesy N800 speakers (how good can tiny speakers be?) with a volume and clarity sufficient to overcome the ambient background noise one would expect at an event like this. Now this experience while satisfying was not perfect. Here are the problems I experienced: 1. As anyone working with these kinds of devices knows, with strong daylight it is almost impossible to navigate a screen menu. This is true for my mobile phone as well as the N800. I don't know if there is a solution for this problem. Sometimes you have to guess from memory where the correct checkbox/icon is located. 2. I dropped the N800 a few times on the grass/dirt and that experience reminded me how absurd it is that Nokia has, as far as I can tell, STILL has not released the leather case that they show at their www site and that would provide better protection for the device while it is in use. Of course the bandwidth required for Internet/packet radio does not really push the limits of a service like EVDO or HSDPA which explains why during an hour of listening I did not perceive any dropouts. On the other hand I have no idea of how many other people in the vicinity were also contending for EVDO bandwidth. Each season I notice a growing proportion of individuals at these events who have some kind of smartphone, typified by the RIM Blackberry. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks * * *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** * *** ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Joost client for the N800?
All, I tried to sign up for the Joost beta only to learn that, like Google mail before it, you need to be invited by someone who is already in the Beta and who has "tokens" to hand out. My question is as follows: 2. It appears Joost requires the installation of client side software. Is Nokia doing anything to influence the Joost folk to develop a Linux client for small screen devices? I see that at least one N800 user, geneven, has put in a pitch for an N800 Linux client on the Joost forum www site. Here is the url to the thread: http://www.joost.com/forums/p/2007/03/will-there-be-a-joost-client-for-linux/ -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** * *** ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Skype Update?
Neil, we used to call that a "developer first half". On the other hand in marketing's lexicon, the term, "first half", always meant the first day of the first month of the half. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks * * *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** * *** Neil MacLeod wrote: > George Farris wrote: > >> On Tue, 2007-08-05 at 20:05 +0100, Alan Williamson wrote: >> >>> As i load up my bag one thing i am missing is skype. Cheap calls back >>> to the UK will probably force me to take my laptop afterall. >>> >>> Is there any update to the progress of this? >>> >> Skype is proprietary, try Gizmo or Google Talk. >> >> >> > >From the Nokia Skype press release[1]: > > "The first implementation on the Nokia N800 is expected to be made available > for download by the end of first half of 2007." > > So my guess is that Skype will be released along with a new firmware on > Friday, 29 June 2007. > > 1. http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1096860 > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Skype Update?
Mike, I have tested the Skype client for Pocket PC (v 2.2.0.20) on the UTStarcom XV6700 running Windows Mobile 5.0 and although it takes a while to initialize, it seems to handle calls ok, better using 802.11 than EVDO but even EVDO works. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks * * *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** Mike Klein wrote: > Skype is too heavy for HTC Hermes (Cingular 8525) also. > > I can do A2DP bluetooth with cellular voice calls but not VOIP > callsget choppy/static. > > Do they need VOIP support in BT profiles? > > > mike > > Alan Williamson wrote: >> Skype was scheduled for the N800 by Nokia. >> >> Google Talk -- well, it has no where near the number of users that Skype >> has, and besides, why Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola? All about choice. >> >> in all fairness GoogleTalk is no where near as slick and as good as >> Skype, IMHO. I have tried it, and had to leave it. Not everything >> Google touches is great! >> >> >> Wayne Fiori wrote: >> >>> Skype is a little heavy for the N800. Besides, it's only taken Skype >>> two-three years to release an upgrade for Linux from version 1.3 to >>> 1.4. While the Windows world is using v 3.1. >>> >>> Why is Google Talk not sufficient?-- >>> >> >> >> Alan Williamson >> "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ >> >> b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 inflight!
Alan, aah! That has been my quest as well."losing" the laptop. However, you might want to mitigate the risk/consequences of losing of your N800 while you experience the "mind fog" of jet lag by taking that laptop along as a backup. On the other hand if money is not an issue you could purchase a second N800 as a backup and keep it in a separate location. I did a similar work related experiment a few months ago (i.e. bringing to/using at the work site an N800 in lieu of a laptop to perform equipment config work) and the experiment was a success. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks * * *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** * *** Alan Williamson wrote: > Afternoon happy N800'ers! > > I will be conducting an experiment. I will be travelling from the UK to > San Francisco, and then back via Dallas, and instead of carrying my > laptop, i am going to be armed with just my N800 and a bluetooth keyboard. > > I have loaded up my 2GB card with tunes, audio books, pics of the kids. > I have VNC all configured and SSH. SO there should be no stopping > me eh? > > While i am on the place, is there a way for me to kill the wireless > completely? This would ensure i don't get hassle from the air > hostesses but also to save as much battery for the flight as possible. > > Any advice? Am i mad trying this, or should i just take my laptop as a > backup? :) > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bluetooth GPS receiver
Brad, given the price of that product, why is the Nokia GPS so much more expensive? Is it simply the Brand name or is there some material difference in GPS resolution/flexibility/performance, etc? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Brad Midgley wrote: fwiw... If you are buying a new gps now, you can get built-in logging with no real impact on the price. And it looks like wintec fixed the signal quality problem in their data logger: http://www.semsons.com/wiwbmu3gpsre2.html I have the wbt100 model and I like it because it can store a log that can be extracted later using gpsbabel. Tracks can be retrieved over bluetooth which should be a no-brainer (some other manufacturers still haven't figured that out and require usb for xfers). My only complaint with the wbt100 was the gps receiver was only about as good as the older sirf ii models. The update in the wbt201 should bring it up almost in parity with sirf iii devices. The gps is *tiny*. I put it in one pocket when I went snowboarding and it was pretty simple to import into google earth and play back my day on the slopes. Good fun. brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: claws mail program
Jean-Luc, I un-installed the prior version successfully but the new version does not show up in the application manager even after doing a cold restart. The entries listed in my catalog list include the following: Nokia Catalogue Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software) maemo-hackers bora-extras mg maemo.org.br maemo repository Any ideas of what to try next? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If a previous version is already installed, the new 2.9.0 doesn't appear in applications manager. Uninstall the previous version to have the new version in applications manager. It's not really a problem because the parameters and the mailboxes are not deleted. Jean-Luc Biord Jean-Luc, is there a clear explanation somewhere of the procedure for upgrading then N800 from one release of claws-mail to the next? For example, using the application installer, is it possible to simply install a new version "on top" of the old version, or must the old version first be uninstalled? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM *serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets*** * *** (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean-Luc Biord wrote: Please verify if you have added the repository as explained here : www.claws-mail.org/maemo (I modified his contents) JL Great thanks. However, i do not see claws on the list of installable applications anymore. I have tried to refresh and what have you, but no difference. JL wrote: Ok repository is updated. Please remove the claws-mail package previously installed. Update your aplications manager to refresh the dependencies then reinstall the package (and say me if it works) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 Now available at Amazon.com
All, fyi. http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-PC/dp/B000MK4GGM/ref=pd_sim_e_2/104-8012879-4200723?ie=UTF8&qid=1176494479&sr=8-1 with plenty of commentary on pros and cons. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Python 2.5 Runtime does not install properly on N800
Eduardo, thanks for your insight/suggestion. That worked! Now I need to start writing some python software! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Eduardo Lima wrote: Hi John, It seems you don't have the maemo repository in your application catalogue. Make sure you have the following entry in your list: Web Address: http://repository.maemo.org Distribution: bora Components: free non-free You can check these packages are present there in the following address: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/bora/free/binary/ Best Regards, Etrunko. On 4/12/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, when I go to the application tab of maemo to install The Python 2.5 Runtime it fails with a message that 4 application packages are missing: libglade2-0, libsdl-ttf2.0-0,libsdl-ttf2.0-0, and libgdbm3. Why the second and third app appear with the same exact name is somewhat puzzling, but suffice it to say that it won't complete the installation. What is strange here is that this is one of the applications that has a green "click here to install" icon suggesting that that is all that is needed in order to install the app. Unless I am doing something wrong here, the installer should be fixed to install all of the necessary components for this app not just some of them. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Correction: [Fwd: Another Bluetooth Keyboard?]
All, here is the url to the www page for the tabletkiosk bluetooth keyboard that was missing from the attached message: http://www.tabletkiosk.com/tkstore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=24&idproduct=155#details Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Original Message Subject:Another Bluetooth Keyboard? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:11:14 -0400 From: Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Acadia Secure Networks To: maemo-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All, I found the following bluetooth keyboard at the Tabletkiosk www site. It looks like it may be rebadged/relogoed product of another supplier so their might be nothing new here: Also, for those considering the Igo Thinkoutside Bluetooth keyboard, here is the url to a video that demonstrates its use after some introduction video fluff: http://media.libsyn.com/media/gottabemobile/tokb.wmv -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Python 2.5 Runtime does not install properly on N800
All, when I go to the application tab of maemo to install The Python 2.5 Runtime it fails with a message that 4 application packages are missing: libglade2-0, libsdl-ttf2.0-0,libsdl-ttf2.0-0, and libgdbm3. Why the second and third app appear with the same exact name is somewhat puzzling, but suffice it to say that it won't complete the installation. What is strange here is that this is one of the applications that has a green "click here to install" icon suggesting that that is all that is needed in order to install the app. Unless I am doing something wrong here, the installer should be fixed to install all of the necessary components for this app not just some of them. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: SanDisk 8GM SDHC Flash Card - we need SDHC!
Laurent/Jonathan, agreed and done! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM *serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets*** * *** (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Greene wrote: Voted! Agree not having headset profile is major. On 4/12/07, Laurent GUERBY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 14:43 -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote: > I know 4GB is not even officially supported yet, but imagine the 16GB > possibilities with 2 8GB SDHC cards... Movies, Music, Photos - more > ebooks than you could probably even consider reading! 2x2GB=4GB = 16 hours of video already supported. Some 4GB cards do work (I have 2x4GB right now in my N800 without using a third party kernel). A full battery charge on the N800 will give you a bit more than 4 hours of video (with minimum screen brightness). I of course would like SDHC supported, but my first vote is for bluetooth headset support so I can get rid of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] cable first when travelling :). You can vote here: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=474 "Vote for this bug" just above the top right corner of the comment box, 12 people so far and 2d most wanted feature (after ogg DSP support, but I think that bluetooth headset is more useful since cpu ogg works fine right now :). Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Another Potential Platform for a Linux based UMPC
Hanno, I know that. What is special is that the supplier is going to support both LInux as well as, apparently, a bare hardware option (i.e. no O.S.) thus saving the customer the cost of something that they don't want/need. In the same vein, Dell, in response to many requests, is going to offer certain models of Laptops w/o an O.S. to satisfy customers who plan to install their favorite Linux distro. If it comes to pass, this will be a good decision on Dell's part. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acadia Secure Networks schrieb: All, fyi. Here is the url to yet another recent entrant (the TabletKiosk TufTab v7112XT rugged UMPC) into the UMPC market and, in this case, the supplier will. optionally supply, Linux, Microsoft Windows, or no OS: http://www.pocketables.net/2007/03/tabletkiosk_tuf.html#more This isn't really special. There are several 7-inch UMPCs out there and most of them should support any x86 Linux distribution. 7-inchers are WAY bigger than the N800. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Another Bluetooth Keyboard?
All, I found the following bluetooth keyboard at the Tabletkiosk www site. It looks like it may be rebadged/relogoed product of another supplier so their might be nothing new here: Also, for those considering the Igo Thinkoutside Bluetooth keyboard, here is the url to a video that demonstrates its use after some introduction video fluff: http://media.libsyn.com/media/gottabemobile/tokb.wmv -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Another Potential Platform for a Linux based UMPC
All, fyi. Here is the url to yet another recent entrant (the TabletKiosk TufTab v7112XT rugged UMPC) into the UMPC market and, in this case, the supplier will. optionally supply, Linux, Microsoft Windows, or no OS: http://www.pocketables.net/2007/03/tabletkiosk_tuf.html#more -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[Fwd: Re: Nokia Tablet Carrying Case]
All, is the Nokia case still under development? Or has it been released from R&D? Or did the marketing department change the spec's at the last second? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Original Message Subject:Re: Nokia Tablet Carrying Case Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:47:02 + From: Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd like to know when Nokia will be releasing their much promised and much delayed N800 "Case"[1]. Accessories for the N800 are conspicuous by their absence - for example, it's impossible to buy replacement N800 styli and the same situation exists for the 770 so it's not a matter of time as the 770 isn't a new product. 1. http://europe.nokia.com/accessorieslink?s=N800Case ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: maemo.org homepage mockup
Quim, great work product! I would say, ship it! What do you mean by the phrase "code in your hands"? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM *serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets*** * *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigert/447139716/_ Feedback appreciated. This homepage needs to be useful first of all to you. Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Photo capability using N800 Camera?
All, today I had some time to see how the camera works on the N800 but I could not find a way to make it record a still image. Is there, in fact ,a way to record a still image that is undocumented in the User guide, or is it undocumented because the functionality to do that is missing/not yet available? -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What's the status on OS 2007 v3?
Frantisek is it necessary for the user to manually reinstall any extra applications after updating to a new version of the OS, or is the update process smart enough to recognize these extra apps and do the necessary work to preserve them though the update process? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frantisek Dufka wrote: Neil MacLeod wrote: Frantisek - are you suggesting the candidate build has been knocking around inside Nokia for several weeks, or are you suggesting the build is about to take place? If the latter, I doubt we'll see a release until QA have done their bit which will take several more weeks. I don't know anything at all :-) I just remember I was pleasantly surprised with firmware releases before and mostly it was on Friday afternoon. And I just guess that if someone told us that firmware will be soon than it maybe at that date it was already 'knocking around inside Nokia' like you said. All this is just a guess without any real information. So please don't be excited :-) Just checked in the announce list and http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-announce/ sometimes it was also on Thursday. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Problem connecting through captive portal(s)
Bad Dog, it would help if you could provide more detail about where the problem arises? Is it a throughput problem, a connection availability problem, an authentication problem (assuming the service provider requires authentication), or what? One thing you could do if you have a notebook computer with wireless and running Windows or Linux is to install Ethereal and run a packet trace of the connection to see in some detail what it is going on, presuming that the service will work fine with a notebook computer. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Bad Dog wrote: Our local ISP uses Mikrotik mesh routers and a captive portal. My 770 and N800 both have problems connecting to this network, while I have no problem with my home wireless, friends wireless, etc. After speaking with them, I learned that the ISP sends as many as 4 ARP packets per second (usually one every couple seconds) to keep track of which devices are still alive on the net. Is this the possible source of these problems on my Nokia tablets? Anyone have any similar issues? Any ideas on what I might do to diagnose this problem on the 770? Cheers, bd ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 and network security
Karl/David, well this is exactly what I was suggesting that Nokia needs to get out in front of by making its own strong case for the security "capabilities" of the Nokia Internet Tablet computers. Even ignoring the suggestions I and others have made for technical improvements into the security of the device, Nokia can and should make some space on its www site for this device family that discusses the subject of device security. This is more of a marketing problem that it is a security problem. David, feel free to have someone from you I.T. department contact me and, in concrete terms, I can make them feel more comfortable about allowing the N800 on their network. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVID BURGER wrote: I'd like to connect to my departmental network (Windows based), but our IT folks won't let me for fear of viruses, worms, etc. Is there anything on the web that I can show them that would indicate that the N800 is not a security risk? Or maybe it is??? Thanks! Dave UC Davis should be embarrassed. begin:vcard fn:Karl Bellve n:Bellve;Karl org:Biomedical Imaging Group;Department of Physiology adr:2 Biotech, Suite 114;;373 Plantation Street;Worcester;Massachusetts;01655;United States of America email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Assistant Professor tel;work:508-856-6514 tel;fax:508-856-6514 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server
Kon, I have two questions for you: 1. re: the following comment at the Internet Tablet talk www page, i.e. "To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080" why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say Firefox? 2. I am already running nginx, so will the embedded www server interfere in your app in any way with that already installed www server, as far as you know? Best Regards, John Holmblad Kon Wilms wrote: Hi folks, I have compiled Motion and put it here with some info: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4869 I will build up a mud package and frontend UI when I have some time :-) Cheers Kon -- snip This is a quick compilation of Motion with V4L2 support. Motion is a flexible motion detection and image capture application that can capture from input video devices, perform motion analysis, and output the resulting postprocessed images to files, external processes, or straight to HTTP using its built-in HTTP server. You can use it with your N800 and turn your device into a motion capture device, automated snapshot device, or anything else you can think of. I have customized the binary to overcome some issues with V4L2 on the N800 (buffer read errors), and modified the motion.conf to accomodate for the N800 (hur offset, capture delay to give minimum amount of errors, etc.) To use: 1. Unzip and copy motion and motion.conf to your N800 2. Using xterm, start motion 3. Hit the IP of your N800 with a web browser on port 8081 (use firefox!) 4. To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080 You must use mozilla or firefox as the stream is motion jpeg and IE cannot parse the stream (being the pile it is). See the FAQ for more info on setting up motion to auto-ftp images, email, postprocess, redirect, draw image boxes around motion detected, ... If you file bug reports to this thread I will do my best to fix the code. CAVEATS: non-graceful termination may hang the camera device and reboot the N800 (harmless but beware). Download here http://geopacket.com/maemo/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What works, what doesn't work
Jon/Eero, and for Windows 2000/XP there is version of the TightVNC client that works well: http://www.tightvnc.com/ Best Regards, John Holmblad Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Jon A. Solworth wrote: VNC (or similar): I would like to be able to use the n800 from my notebook with its larger display and especially keyboard. (The most important is the keyboard---I don't want to buy and carry around a bluetooth keyboard when I always have my notebook with me anyway. If your laptop is running Linux, you could use something like x2x: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x2x - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to replace Dummy www page on N800?
Paul, aah...thanks for reminding me. I had forgotten that the www server is NOT a part of the Nokia OS. It turns out that I had, in fact, installed a 3rd party www server, known as nginx, originated by Igor Sysoev. A version of that www server was packaged for the Nokia 770/800 OS's by Santtu Lakkala who is an active contributor to maemo and the maemo-developers list. I have copied him on this response. Here is the url to a blog entry by Santtu that provides an installer file fo nginx. http://inz.fi/blog/2007/01/26/nginx-http-server-and-install-files/ here is the url to the www site that has the generic (not Nokia specific) LInux .tar http://nginx.net/ here is the url to a www site called codemogers.com that has a wiki for nginx. http://wiki.codemongers.com/ and here is the nginx author, Igor's, www site where he maintains the source and object code for nginx: http://sysoev.ru/en/ Since there is documentation at the wiki I will take a look there to see how to locate the www site file tree in the N800 instance of nginx. I should mention that there seems to be some consideration given, the efficiency of nginx for static www pages, to using ngnix as a foundation www server for Ruby on Rails development projects. Here is the url to a discussion on that topic from someone who works with ROR http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/2007/01/26/hosting-ruby-on-rails-lighttpd-apache-mongrel-webrick-litespeed-and-ngnix/ and some commentary relating to nginx. Note in the post below that the poster has misspelled (i.e. reversed the i and the x) the name of the software, nginx. I suspect this is because people are used to the suffix *nix and perhaps sometimes misread it as I did when I first saw the word. It's all about Russia, stupid And then, when everyone had already settled down with a nice, reliable and fast solution for serving Ruby, ngnix <http://sysoev.ru/nginx> comes into town. ngnix <http://sysoev.ru/nginx> is a wholly fast web server that serves static files in a breeze. And also does load-balancing. Got the point? Serving Mongrel instances through ngnix <http://sysoev.ru/nginx>. ngnix <http://sysoev.ru/nginx> is chiefly developed by russians and English documentation is still lacking so if you need assistance to get started check this post <http://www.brainspl.at/articles/2006/08/23/nginx-my-new-favorite-front-end-for-mongrel-cluster>. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. Mine doesn't appear to have a webserver installed by default. Sure you didn't install thttpd or similar[1]? A good way to find what you're looking for might be to search the n800 for html files: in xterm $ sudo gainroot # find / | grep -i [.]html [1] http://downloads.maemo.org/product/thttpd --Paul On 2/20/07, *Acadia Secure Networks* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Paul, no, I am talking about the www page that gets served to a browser when I connect to the N800 via the TCP/IP stack over TCP port 80. Right now the www page is a simple html script as follows: Welcome to nginx! text="black"> Welcome to nginx! I want to find the file directory containing this file in the filesystem and replace the file with my own www site directory (static pages only). I eventually plan to install a more powerful www server, thttpd, that has been discussed by others on this list, but for now I am hoping that what is already installed in the standard N800 OS in terms of html page serving capability will be sufficient to serve www pages like the one above. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Paul Klapperich wrote: On 2/20/07, *Acadia Secure Networks* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: All, I would like to replace the dummy www page (ngnix) on the N800 Are you talking about the home screen applet? --Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org <mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to replace Dummy www page on N800?
Paul, no, I am talking about the www page that gets served to a browser when I connect to the N800 via the TCP/IP stack over TCP port 80. Right now the www page is a simple html script as follows: Welcome to nginx! Welcome to nginx! I want to find the file directory containing this file in the filesystem and replace the file with my own www site directory (static pages only). I eventually plan to install a more powerful www server, thttpd, that has been discussed by others on this list, but for now I am hoping that what is already installed in the standard N800 OS in terms of html page serving capability will be sufficient to serve www pages like the one above. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Paul Klapperich wrote: On 2/20/07, *Acadia Secure Networks* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: All, I would like to replace the dummy www page (ngnix) on the N800 Are you talking about the home screen applet? --Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
How to replace Dummy www page on N800?
All, I would like to replace the dummy www page (ngnix) on the N800 with a set of static, linked www pages which I want to import from a Windows XP system . To do this I need to know where the N800 looks for these files, what is the file name, and, how can I "expose" the target directory to the file manager app so I can easily populate it with my www site. Any answers/help will be much appreciated. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Help with thttpd
Kon, the only reason would be to avoid having to use/modify scripts or .conf files. Having said that I will look into getting a dyndns account and trying this out. Best Regards, John Holmblad Kon Wilms wrote: You mean as a daemon of some sort? I didn't call it a service... in any case I don't see why you would want to - just trigger it with an ifup script. Cheers Kon On 2/19/07, *Acadia Secure Networks* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Kon, can the LInux version be installed as a service? I ask this only because, although your www page indicates that it DOES install as a service, the www page that you reference, http://inadyn.ina-tech.net/readme.html#install suggests that the LInux version only runs as a user or script initiated executable. Did you modify the version at the inadyn.ina-tech.net <http://inadyn.ina-tech.net> www site to make it install as a Linux service? Best Regards, John Holmblad <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> konfoo wrote: I compiled a pretty good dnydns client. http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35420 Cheers Kon On 2/18/07, *sebastian maemo* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I'll do my best, but am not very used to developing. I've programmed in c, and c++, but it's not what I usually do. I'll try to learn. Thank you. 2007/2/19 There are a couple of dd clients that run under python. You could probably make one of those work quite easily. There's also a few coded in C and those should compile easily under the scratchbox :-) Cheers Kon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org <mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Help with thttpd
Kon, can the LInux version be installed as a service? I ask this only because, although your www page indicates that it DOES install as a service, the www page that you reference, http://inadyn.ina-tech.net/readme.html#install suggests that the LInux version only runs as a user or script initiated executable. Did you modify the version at the inadyn.ina-tech.net www site to make it install as a Linux service? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] konfoo wrote: I compiled a pretty good dnydns client. http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35420 Cheers Kon On 2/18/07, *sebastian maemo* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I'll do my best, but am not very used to developing. I've programmed in c, and c++, but it's not what I usually do. I'll try to learn. Thank you. 2007/2/19 There are a couple of dd clients that run under python. You could probably make one of those work quite easily. There's also a few coded in C and those should compile easily under the scratchbox :-) Cheers Kon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
K, I don't have any answers but I just yesterday I reported to this list a similar problem on the N800 requiring removal/re installation of the battery to "unbrick" the device. Having said that, I can say that from my experience, the N800 software overall seems quite stable and far along on the software quality "learning curve". Interestingly, I find that I can easily "brick" my mobile phone by running a large file download (e.g. a bandwidth test) or even sometimes opening a complex, data rich www page, which then requires me to hard reset/reboot the phone which runs Windows Mobile 5.0 in order to "un-brick" it. The nice part about these devices however, is that, with respect to rebooting, it is like going back to the good old days when rebooting computers took seconds as opposed to minutes! Let's hope that this trend continues because I don't want to spend my time watching doodads spinning around during a lengthy reboot cycle. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had the following problem with my 770 for sometime now, but do not really understand the cause or how to avoid it. This is what I did last night: - Moderate use of my tablet for a few hours. - Left on with a wikipedia article in the browser for about four hours - I wanted to read the article later, so I flipped the cover around and went to bed. (batt indicator shows full) - about ten hours later, I pulled the cover off, and it did not come on - To restore the device, I have to take out the battery for a minute or so, replace it, plug in the device, and press the power button. - when the tablet comes back on, it is fully or 3/4 charged Has anyone else seen this or have any ideas? thanks, K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 as a Business Productivity Tool
K, many of the router and 802.11 access point products with which I work are designed around the assumption that the predominant, and, in most cases, the only method of effecting remote (i.e. via the TCP/IP stack as opposed to a serial port) management is via http or, preferably, https to a www server. On the router side most of my experience is with the products of Cisco/Linksys but I assume that the others, e.g. Dlink, Netgear, Belkin, etc. use the same approach given the ubiquity, familiarty, ease of use of a www browser based client end interface. Regarding the mail client I believe Nokia has to fix this, and do so sooner as opposed to later. For business use, email is still the "killer" data app (somewhat to my surprise that it is still so after all these years) and for Nokia to have missed the opportunity to get this right just amazes me. the N800 won't be a viable business tool until they correct this, in my opinion, fatal software flaw/shortcoming. Now maybe that is a market that Nokia is not interested in for this product but I think that would be a mistake, especially since fixing it is a SMOP (Small Matter of Programming). Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 05:09:11PM -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: Navigating the router admin port www pages was a little extra work (scrolling of 2 levels nested windows) but with the N800 I was still able to perform the necessary configuration adjustments on I would think that installing the ssh client would make router configuration much easier. Of course, then you will likely need a keyboard, as well, but mine is as small as my 770. The ssh client would also cirumvent the problems associated with ActiveX, flash, Java, etc. As others have commented, the N800 mail client really needs improvement. It is nowhere year as useable useful as the Windows Mobile 5.0 (I call it Outlook-lite) client on my handset. For I have given up on the built-in mail client, using mutt on my home server 95% of the time. I only fire it up when I know I am going to be without connectivity for a while and have some mail to go through. Even then, I will likely scan with mutt first and get rid of a number of messages quickly. There needs to be a reader for Microsoft word .doc's, Excel .xls files, and Powerpoint .ppt files Perhaps a stripped down version of Openoffice would be a workable solution for this requirement. I have not tried, indeed, I am a bit afraid, to try the Google Docs & spreadsheets for this function. It should be simple to forward a message with one of these docs to the appropriate import email address and then view via the browser; if it could handle it, and I worry that the 770 cannot. Maybe it or the 800 would handle it just fine. I need to check it out. Also, I believe gnumeric is available for maemo. I have also seen abiword, but cannot figure out how to install it. K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 Intermittent Failure Mode Requiring Battery removal/reinsertion
All, I am finding that a few times a day I have to remove and reinsert the battery in order to regain full functionality of the N800. In the latest instance, the N800 failed to discover a number of 802.11 LANS that is normally able to discover. After the battery removal/reinsertion the system, fortunately recovers. What is mildly disconcerting about this condition is that before the battery removal/insertion but after powering down, the system will not power back up. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 as a Business Productivity Tool
All, Here are some thoughts on the use of the N800 and its successors as a business productivity tool as well as a fun, casual entertainment/consumer oriented device. As one who has carried (in the early days lugged) laptops and before that, dumb terminals, literally around the world for business purposes, and especially for that killer app, email, I was very interested in the possibility of a product/device that would allow me to intentionally "lose the laptop". To that end I performed a somewhat (not too) risky experiment yesterday by NOT bringing my trusty laptop with me to a critical customer install of some broadband wireless (on both the WAN and the LAN side) router equipment but, instead, bringing along my trusty N800 and, as I typically do, my EVDO broadband service enabled mobile phone. Now I knew that if I really got in trouble I could count on this customer having plenty of desktop and notebook computer horsepower at hand but my goal was to not have to avail myself of that contingency resource. In short, the experiment was a mostly unqualified success. Using the N800 I was able to a) drill into the router admin http port of the broadband wireless router from the 802.11 side to perform configuration via the www admin interface and diagnose configuration issues and, later b) connect the N800 to my EVDO enabled mobile phone via Bluetooth to verify that the EVDO signal was in fact strong enough inside of the building where the router is installed to be useful for Internet access by test browsing Internet www pages from the N800. Navigating the router admin port www pages was a little extra work (scrolling of 2 levels nested windows) but with the N800 I was still able to perform the necessary configuration adjustments on the router. Although my mobile phone also has 802.11 capability I have found that the screen size of that device (a UTStarcom 6700) is just too small and not productive for real config work like I was performing successfully with the N800. The N800, with its full VGA and larger screen size, and www page zoom capability seems to be a very workable compromise to a notebook/laptop as long as the www site does not have stuff (e.g. active-x etc) that does not render/work in the N800 browser.. If I had had some of the standard network tools installed on the N800 (e.g. ping, and perhaps even nmap) I could have performed further diagnostic testing of the broadband router EVDO network connection (e.g. to confirm that the firewall was enabled and working correctly). Some additional observations/comments re: N800 usability: +'s One interesting aspect of the N800 bluetooth capability that I discovered during this implementation project is that the the bluetooth signal was strong enough between the N800 and my mobile phone that even when the N800 was ~20 ft from the handset and separated by an inside wall and a cubicle wall I was still able to keep the pairing active and have broadband network access via the mobile phone Finally I want to mention that although I have used my mobile phone to browse the www while on the underground (subway)system in my area, the experience is much more productive when using the N800 paired with the mobile phone, than using the mobile phone by itself, again, because of the large screen size, higher resolution, etc. of the N800 vs a mobile phone. This is an environment where, especially during the crowding conditions during rush hour it is neither practical nor unobtrusive to whip out a laptop to try to accomplish some simple Internet related task. On the other hand the N800 paired with a mobile phone is quite satisfactory. -'s www sites with embedded objects (e.g. flash) that do not render well or very slowly in the N800 browser. In this respect, ironically, it seems that the Microsoft www site including the Mobile www page works no worse than and, perhaps, a little bit better than Nokia's own www site in the N800 browser. As others have commented, the N800 mail client really needs improvement. It is nowhere year as useable useful as the Windows Mobile 5.0 (I call it Outlook-lite) client on my handset. For starters, although the N800 allows the user to create multiple mailboxes, it only seems to maintain one set of IMAP folders. This is a non-starter. There needs to be a reader for Microsoft word .doc's, Excel .xls files, and Powerpoint .ppt files Perhaps a stripped down version of Openoffice would be a workable solution for this requirement. The bluetooth Icon should remain in the system tray (or whatever it is called) even when Bluetooth is turned off. Or at lest the option to configure it to do so should be made a configuration option for the tablet-top. This would make it faster to toggle the bluetooth receive on and off if there is a difficult pairing situation with anot
Re: [maemo-users] Verizon BT DUN?
Jonathan, here are the urls to some (overlapping) suggested solutions pertaining to DUN (bluetooth and USB) and Verizon: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=825860&page=1&pp=15 http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64889 http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=827559 http://www.myehud.com/xv6600/usbmodem.html http://www.myehud.com/xv6600/dialer_driver.zip Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what settings are you guys using? thanks!! On 2/15/07, Brad Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan I am using a treo 700p this way, but it feels a little goofy when what I really wanted was just a simple flipphone. Also, it doesn't perform as well as my last phone, maxing out just short of 400kbps. I had a motorola e815 that was working great with a typical 600kbps. After a "mandatory" firmware upgrade, my 770 (and my dell axim with no verizon app) could no longer find the dun service. fwiw, I eventually got verizon to replace the e815 with the 700p at no charge. Brad > Has anyone had success connecting through a VZ phone for data > connectivity? I have a friend who is going to return an N800 since he > can't get online through the phone... > > I know VZ and Sprint have made it tough previously... but someone must > have figured it out. > > > Thanks, > JG > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Verizon BT DUN?
JG, yes. I have successfully tested it with a N800 DUN-ning to a Verizon XV6700. I am surprised how well it works, in fact, better than my Bluetooth headset to the 6700. Verizon Wireless as you know is not friendly towards tethering because Verizon Wireless offers a lower price on their EVDO service when it is associated with a EVDO capable handset than when it is associated with a PCMCIA card (data only service). Sprint, on the other hand, I believe, does not have a commercial issue or hostility toward tethering. There is advice available on the www on how to enable Bluetooth and USB DUN. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had success connecting through a VZ phone for data connectivity? I have a friend who is going to return an N800 since he can't get online through the phone... I know VZ and Sprint have made it tough previously... but someone must have figured it out. Thanks, JG ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 'Locking down' software installation
All, there is a company, rpath, that is providing some if not all of what is needed for management of the OS codebase. Here is the url to a press release for their product: http://www.rpath.com/corp/news-and-events/rpath-continues-momentum-with-addition-of-9.1m-in-fu-5.html Maybe Nokia is using such a tool internally but if not, it appears to be worth considering. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the concrete plan: There is going to be a 'meta' package that represents the whole operating system. Updates to the OS are done by updating this meta package in the Application Manager. The meta package will have dependencies on all packages with their exact versions that make up the official OS releases. The Application Manager will not allow the removal of the meta package. I have found through experience this is a very powerful way to use standard distribution tools and still hold control. I've implimented a mechanism like this and it works well. We made it such that (and from the sounds of it this will be the same) a developer could remove the meta lock package and wreak havoc on the system. This was a good thing. Hardcore devels could do bad things, but they will always do bad things. This gave them the last hurdle to say, you are now out of control. It also means that support can easily tell when a user has willfully removed the meta lock and thus absolve themselevs of some level of support. This means that the Application Manager will not allow you to update individual OS packages (or to install third party applications that require this), since you would have to remove the meta package for that. It is still possible to install additional 'system' packages, just not to upgrade already installed ones. A second new feature is that the Application Manager will distinguish between "trusted sources" and "non-trusted sources" (based on the key used to sign the corresponding repository). A package that has originally been installed from a trusted source will only be allowed to be updated (or replaced) from a trusted source. The flash image is also treated as a trusted source, so you will only be able to update packages that are pre-installed in the device from trusted sources. This makes it easier for the user to be sure that he doesn't pick up unwanted system software updates by accident. The set of trusted sources will be under control of a power-user: you can just add some GPG keys to the right place, but there is no UI to do it. You can also switch the whole lock-down machinery off by going to red-pill mode. So whaddaya think? Useful? Too painful? Too difficult to escape from? Presonally I think the one or two one-time extra steps will not be a burdne for hackers and yet provide some safety to users. Overall I think it solves much of the 'rouge' package concerns. As you said it does not solve all the problems. But no single solution will solve everything, but this is a strong first step. Thanks Brian ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] help - attempted N770 python upgrade -- system keeps rebooting
Frantisek, has this procedure been verified to work on the N800 as well? If so then the text header in the Wiki entry should probably be corrected to include the N800 as well. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff G wrote: 2. make sure to backup ! (I always KNEW it but didn't DO it) Best backup is dual boot from mmc. IMHO this is a must before doing any experiments with the device. Install new firmware, do the basic setup and then clone system to mmc before experimenting. http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: suggestion for next Nokia tablet
Ted, I too like the idea of a keyboard. I have a UTStarcom 6700 and the keyboard is of the slide out variety which works very well. Here is the url to a www page at the UTStarcom www site that shows an image of the unit with the keyboard slid out: http://www.utstar.com/PCD/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=PPC6700&bID=30&sAct=0 This keyboard design gets generally good reviews from users however one problem with it is that keying in numerics is a pain because it requires a special key + the selected number. Also, given the handset's form factor, the keyboard is a bit small for those with large hands/fingers. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:08:51 + Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NM> Positioning the wheel on the top left or top right shoulders of NM> the device would work for me (as I'm right handed) but this would NM> not work at all for a left-handed person who has to rotate the NM> screen 180 degrees for comfortable use (secondary wheel in the NM> bottom right corner?) I think Nokia need to give more NM> consideration to left-handed users I agree that lefties get worse usability in general. The 770 and N800 are not usable with the left hand holding the stylus; I wrote about this to the list before. The solution, IMHO, is to provide a flip-out keyboard that would make the stylus less necessary, and text input easier. If the 9000, 9500, 9300, and E90 can do it, why not the N800++? The keyboard would also, when closed, protect that nice screen. (someone on the #maemo channel mentioned the E90 has the same processor and memory as the N800... hmmm...) Ted ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Problem connecting to AOL IMAP Server
All, I cannot seem to get the N800 mail client to successfully connect to the AOL IMAP service. I know this service works because I use it with several mail clients including Netscape, Thunderbird, and Outlook running on Windows XP, and the mail clients on Windows Mobile 5.0 and Microsoft PPC 2003, no problem. I have checked and rechecked the user name, pw, server name and TCP port # to no avail. Any insights would be appreciated. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Nokia Internet Tablet as Pennnetration Testing Device
K, you are right. It looks to me like they are packaging already available opensource security auditor tools and making them available with a GUI that is useable on the N770/800 form factor screen. Most of these tools have a command line interface and I have to assume that much of their software development effort was to make the tools more "point and click". Several of these toolkits (e.g. backtrack) are already available as "live-CD's" so I would expect that a "live-MMC" version of such a toolkit could also be created and I would be surprised if this company were not already working on one for the N800. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:03:59PM -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: agree this would make a cool utility with our tablets... pretty sure aircrack exists already Yup, I insstalled, those tools originally, but have not re-installeed since the last flash upgrade. Those kind of tools would be great on a bootable flash card. Anyway, I have mixed feelings about the Pen Test device. I think the price tag is high, but it sounds like they have put togeher a good product and if they provide good support as well, then people will definitely pay for convenience. I cannot off the top of my head think of its uses for law enforcement, but I am sure they exist. I do not agree with not making the device public. I know that there are more dangerous devices in the wild, so making this modded 770 slightly difficult to obtain does not protect anyone. My last thought is that any security admin worht his or her salt should be able to put something like this together without too much trouble. Where I see this company possibly making an interesting device is a version that is nearly the same but includes a dedicated processor for breaking encryption, like those old DES-busters a few years back. That would be interesting. Now I kind of want to see what I can put together on my 770 but I know i don't have the time. Hmm, I guess that's where their market it, huh? ;) K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Nokia Internet Tablet as Penetration Testing Device
Rick, I have not yet tried to install/use Kismet on the N800 but I am interested in seeing whether a useful security auditor's toolkit could be implemented for the N800 that incorporates a useable subset of the Backtrack toolkit ( http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html i ncluding the wireless tools. Are you aware of any security groups working on such a product? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Rick Prelinger wrote: A kismet install on my N800 didn't work, and there was no message other than "installation failed." Though I have seen a report that it has been ported, I'm not sure this is true. Rick ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] smart2go
Jonathan/disqkk, I was actually able to download and install the map lpader app that runs on Windows XP to pick out the maps (which I assume are "zoomable"). I guess what is still lacking is the app that installs on Windows Mobile and whatever other mobile O.S.'s which will be supported in the first release. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Way. On 2/8/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No way On 2/8/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the site is now live, but without a code there is way to register. > > On 2/8/07, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/8/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1103306 > > > > > > May support linux. No word on Maemo, but would be an interesting and > > > free option instead of navicore - if released. > > > > Smart2Go.com seems to be down at the moment, but the press release > > contains the following interesting passages, which you touch upon: > > > > 8<- > > [...] plans to roll out support for most of the major mobile OS > > platforms including Nokia S60, Series 40, PocketPC, Linux and other > > Windows Mobile devices. > > > > Nokia plans to pre-install the smart2go mapping and navigation > > application on all future Nokia Nseries multimedia computers under the > > name "Nokia Maps". > > > > [...] As smart2go will carry the application name "Nokia Maps" across > > many future Nokia devices, it will also be available for a diversity > > of other operating systems such as Windows Mobile 5 and Linux, in the > > future. > > >8 > > > > Something to look forward to, hopefully. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrew > > > > -- > > Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ > > > b.org | http://www.bleb.org/ > > > b.org | http://www.bleb.org/ > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Greene > m 917.560.3000 > AIM / iChat - atmasphere > gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gizmo - JonathanGreene > blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp > -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] smart2go
Atmasphere, the press release suggests that it WILL be supported on Nokia Nseries products. I have to say that taking on Microsoft and Google in mapping service segment is no small undertaking on Nokia's part. Microsoft has been working to develop the market for location base services for several years now with its Mappoint Web Service and its more recently introduced Virtual Earth service. A member of the Microsoft development team has already published an app to run Virtual Earth on Windows Mobile 5.0 called Virtual Earth Mobile which properly renders the output of the Virtual Earth www site that do not work well or at all on the Windows Mobile 5.0 IE browser or on Mozilla Minimo. Here is the url to the www page with some screen shots along with a link to the .cab file to install VE Mobile on Windows Mobile 5.0. http://www.viavirtualearth.com/vve/Gallery/VEMobile.ashx And of course there is Google Earth as well which has benefited from its positioning as a core component of the Google brand of services. As some on this list are no doubt aware, neither Google Earth nor Microsoft Virtual Earth will work on the N800 browser application. It is good that Nokia has made the pragmatic decision to make its service available on Windows Mobile 5.0 since WM5.0 is quickly becoming the dominant platform for the kind of pda/smartphones that are needed to make full use of these kinds of applications. It also suggests that the Nokia management team is committed to this kind of www service on its own merits and not just to sell more Nokia handsets that do NOT run Windows Mobile 5.0. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1103306 May support linux. No word on Maemo, but would be an interesting and free option instead of navicore - if released. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Radio (was: Contacts on N800)
Andrew, it seems that at the BBC radio player www site, you can only select from among the channel choices in their menu which does not include US (NPR) programming. The NPR.org www site only gives the site visitor a choice of using real player or Windows Media Player. NPR is not a radio station per se. They supply their content to radio stations throughout the U.S. On the other hand I just discovered that my local radio station which carries most of the NPR "feeds" does have an option to receive a .mp3 stream instead of real audio or windows media player. I tested it with the N800 player and it works fine! Best Regards, John Holmblad Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Flegg wrote: On 2/7/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This mitigates my disappointment with my inability stream NPR radio programming from the npr.org www site to the N800 player. Unfortunately the only streaming formats supported by NPR are Real Player and Windows Media, which, of course, are very common. What's wrong with the Real Audio streams on the N800? Mine works well with teb BBC Radio Player's "Listen Again". Cheers, Andrew ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Radio (was: Contacts on N800)
Andrew/Jens, thanks for sharing this! This mitigates my disappointment with my inability stream NPR radio programming from the npr.org www site to the N800 player. Unfortunately the only streaming formats supported by NPR are Real Player and Windows Media, which, of course, are very common. Now if I can only find and enable the chip & app on the N800 that makes fresh espresso my sox will be truly knocked off! Best Regards, John Holmblad Andrew Flegg wrote: On 2/7/07, Jens Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It was in the Catalogue 3rd party software Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software) * Web address http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ * Distribution bora * Components user Direct download: http://repository.maemo.org/catalogue/certified/pool/bora/user/f/fmradio/fmradio_1.2.0_armel.deb Once installed, start XTerm and run "fmradio". Headphones are required to be plugged in to act as an aerial, but it will output to either the speakers or the headphones - there are toolbar buttons to select. HTH, Andrew ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] SAMBA on N800
Frantisek, that is helpful. I think that once there is a version of the VNC server that has been ported to the N800 OS then the CIFS client on the N800 would be easy to use by means of a VNC client running on a PC running LInux or Windows. It looks, however, that, for now, at least, in order to have the CIFS/SMB server on the N800 (so, e.g. a user on a PC could browse shares on the N800) it will be necessary to flash/install the modified version of the OS as the earlier post indicated. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acadia Secure Networks wrote: Skler, why does the standard kernel have to be replaced in order to install Samba? Also it would appear that your command installs both the client side as well as the server side of Samba. There is also another slightly easier way. CIFS kernel module alone. http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToAccessWindowsCIFS Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets
Michael, in the U.S. all three of Cingular (HSDPA), Verizon (EVDO), and Sprint (EVDO) have deployed broadband mobile wireless services with a national footprint that, if Sprint's vision is correct will become, in Sprint's case, a stepping stone to full WIMAX deployment a few years down the road. Nokia is, in fact working with Sprint in the area of WIMAX and and I would be very surprised if Nokia are not considering to put WIMAX into a future version of the N800 or something close to it. I happen to use Verizon's EVDO service and it is very good in terms of bandwidth and U.S. geographic footprint. It supports VOIP satisfactorily and it is being upgraded to higher (Rev. A) performance, as is Sprints EVDO network. I have managed to test out how the wireless "tethering" of the N800 to the Verizon EVDO service via a Verizon handset using bluetooth works but it would be much nicer if I could "lose" the handset and use a future version of the N800 with EVDO and eventually WIMAX in its place. I actually think that the biggest impediment to such a scenario is not so much the need to jam another radio into the N800 form factor as it is the fact that Windows Mobile proves to be much more useful in the corporate world (which is where most of the money to purchase these high end handsets comes from) than a N800. If the Nokia product cannot meet the same application needs then it will not be competitive in this market segment. Although they are expensive, several handset manufacturers, and, in particular, HTC and its reseller UTStarcom, have produced multi radio handsets (EVDO/802.11/CDMA/Bluetooth/IR) that are quite compact, albeit power-hungry, especially with 802.11 turned on. Here is the url to one such product available for both the Sprint and the Verizon Networks in the U.S.: http://www.utstar.com/pcd/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=PPC6700&sAct=0 Most of these high end handsets run Windows Mobile 5.0 but it would be nice for Nokia to provide some competition in this segment by adding, for the US market, a CDMA/EVDO radio or GSM/HSDPA chipset to a future version of the N800 product. Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/6/07, Zoran Kolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 05 February 2007 22:28, Mike Klein wrote: > 3rd worst problem is no 3G/cellular capability built-in. Also my wash machine lacks it. I cannot sleep for that reason. Sarcasm aside, Zoran has a very good point. Putting cellular capability on the IT would be as appropriate as putting it on a washing machine. While it would be great to be able to talk to someone while doing laundry, it is not really the purpose of the machine. I wouldn't have bought a 770 or a N800 if it had a GSM/3G/Super-duper next-gen phone built in. Reasons: - It would add $100 to the cost - It would be a purchase that keeps on costing a monthly fee and cost even more when using it traveling - I already have a bare-bones cell phone that makes calls just fine ... most people have - It would tie it to region/plan that would be difficult to transfer out of - It would tie it to some specific technology that doesn't have the longevity/compatibility of wifi/BT - It would consume a great deal more power I think these ITs make a good break from legacy tech like cellular and leave that crowded market to other models. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] SAMBA on N800
Skler, why does the standard kernel have to be replaced in order to install Samba? Also it would appear that your command installs both the client side as well as the server side of Samba. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have successfully installed samba support on N800 I use this kernel:http://downloads.maemo.org/product/kernel and from osso-xterm type this command: $ sudo gainroot (for become root) # apt-get -y --force-yes install smbclient samba-common smbfs # mount.smb //HOST/DIR /MOUNT_POINT/ -o username=XXX,password=XXX I try to develop a gui for samba. There is any developer free? :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N770/N800 Equivalent to Soti Pocket Controller Professional
Kemal, can you please share the url for the guidance on installing VNC server on the N800? I cannot seem to find it at the maemo www site. Or is it possible that it is already installed and that the VNC server service simply needs to be turned on? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards, John Holmblad Televerage International GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM Information security, telecommunications, and information technology consulting (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kemal Hadimli wrote: installing vnc-server on your n770/n800 should do the trick. On 2/5/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, anyone who has worked with PDA's for a while is probably aware of the outstanding application from Soti Software, called Soti Pocket Controller (SPC). SPC allows the PDA to be controlled from a computer desktop by means of an "emulator" image of the device that is rendered on the PC display monitor and which accepts mouse clicks and keyboard keys in lieu of the stylus. I uses this product extensively and it is somewhat analogous to having a VNC/RDP capability for the PDA except that a number of additional capabilities are provided (e.g. soft reset/file explore, desktop file sync, etc.). With this tool, I can easily send long SMS text messages without suffering from "stylus fatigue". what I was wondering is if anyone is working on a similar tool/capability for the N770/N800 that will run on either a Linux or a Windows desktop OS? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N770/N800 Equivalent to Soti Pocket Controller Professional
Kemal, I started testing the N800 VNC client last night to try to connect it to a RHEL3.0 server but I have not yet tried installing the VNC server on the N800. I will give your suggestion a try but what I am now wondering is how the VNC connection will behave. Will the VNC server connect me to the N800 "desktop" GUI or will it give me a command window? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards, John Holmblad Televerage International GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM Information security, telecommunications, and information technology consulting (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kemal Hadimli wrote: installing vnc-server on your n770/n800 should do the trick. On 2/5/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, anyone who has worked with PDA's for a while is probably aware of the outstanding application from Soti Software, called Soti Pocket Controller (SPC). SPC allows the PDA to be controlled from a computer desktop by means of an "emulator" image of the device that is rendered on the PC display monitor and which accepts mouse clicks and keyboard keys in lieu of the stylus. I uses this product extensively and it is somewhat analogous to having a VNC/RDP capability for the PDA except that a number of additional capabilities are provided (e.g. soft reset/file explore, desktop file sync, etc.). With this tool, I can easily send long SMS text messages without suffering from "stylus fatigue". what I was wondering is if anyone is working on a similar tool/capability for the N770/N800 that will run on either a Linux or a Windows desktop OS? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] N770/N800 Equivalent to Soti Pocket Controller Professional
All, anyone who has worked with PDA's for a while is probably aware of the outstanding application from Soti Software, called Soti Pocket Controller (SPC). SPC allows the PDA to be controlled from a computer desktop by means of an "emulator" image of the device that is rendered on the PC display monitor and which accepts mouse clicks and keyboard keys in lieu of the stylus. I uses this product extensively and it is somewhat analogous to having a VNC/RDP capability for the PDA except that a number of additional capabilities are provided (e.g. soft reset/file explore, desktop file sync, etc.). With this tool, I can easily send long SMS text messages without suffering from "stylus fatigue". what I was wondering is if anyone is working on a similar tool/capability for the N770/N800 that will run on either a Linux or a Windows desktop OS? -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users