RE: External Monitor with N800
Kalle, Thank you! I think I'll give it a shot. If it works, great and I'll post the results. If it doesn't, lesson learned and I'll still post the results. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kalle Valo Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:54 PM To: ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: External Monitor with N800 "ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, > directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with > VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on > an external monitor. > > I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this > possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use USB2VGA for that: http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not for normal users. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor with N800
You don't need a dongle, no. Just a cable. If you have a miniDVI port on a device, then you can have a simple cable that is: 1) MiniDVI to HDMI (just the video signals) 2) MiniDVI to DVI 3) MiniDVI to VGA* 4) MiniDVI to Video* (* only if the dvi hardware supports DVI-A (the analog pins)) HDMI can't do #3 nor #4, because its video pins are "DVI minus DVI-A", so it is ultimately less flexible. You can't easily connect it to a VGA monitor nor analog TV. That's why I prefer DVI over HDMI. And, I'm not suggesting the need for analog because I think it's still important to support analog. I'm suggesting it so that those who want to use their internet tablet as a light weight mobile workstation can do so cheaply. Just pick up any VGA monitor, or even an old TV, and you're in business. You probably can fill this niche without even buying anything. Mike Klein wrote: > Then you'd have to have a dongle, no? Dongles are evil...I carry around > too much crap already. > > Why would you prefer dvi? > > If it were hdmi...it w/have to be v1.3? cause this is only version that > supports HD video with audiosupposedly earlier hdmi versions > wouldn't support full audio when doing 1080p. > > > mike > > John Rudd wrote: >> Aside from substituting "DVI with DVI-A" for HDMI, I agree. >> >> It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets. >> >> >> Mike Klein wrote: >>> I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res >>> pdas/etc. >>> >>> OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing. >>> >>> When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want >>> to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd, >>> etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still >>> I think. >>> >>> Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used >>> standalone or integrated into "larger" device when in car, etc. >>> >>> I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have >>> almost. >>> >>> >>> mike >>> >>> Kalle Valo wrote: "ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, > directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what > I do with > VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output > displays on > an external monitor. > I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this > possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. > You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use USB2VGA for that: http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not for normal users. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> maemo-users mailing list >>> maemo-users@maemo.org >>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor with N800
Then you'd have to have a dongle, no? Dongles are evil...I carry around too much crap already. Why would you prefer dvi? If it were hdmi...it w/have to be v1.3? cause this is only version that supports HD video with audiosupposedly earlier hdmi versions wouldn't support full audio when doing 1080p. mike John Rudd wrote: > > Aside from substituting "DVI with DVI-A" for HDMI, I agree. > > It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets. > > > Mike Klein wrote: >> I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res >> pdas/etc. >> >> OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing. >> >> When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want >> to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd, >> etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still >> I think. >> >> Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used >> standalone or integrated into "larger" device when in car, etc. >> >> I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have >> almost. >> >> >> mike >> >> Kalle Valo wrote: >>> "ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on an external monitor. I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. >>> You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a >>> similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use >>> USB2VGA for that: >>> >>> http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ >>> >>> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter >>> >>> It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not >>> for normal users. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor with N800
Aside from substituting "DVI with DVI-A" for HDMI, I agree. It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets. Mike Klein wrote: > I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res > pdas/etc. > > OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing. > > When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want > to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd, > etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still > I think. > > Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used > standalone or integrated into "larger" device when in car, etc. > > I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have > almost. > > > mike > > Kalle Valo wrote: >> "ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>> My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, >>> directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with >>> VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on >>> an external monitor. >>> >>> I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this >>> possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. >>> >> You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a >> similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use >> USB2VGA for that: >> >> http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ >> >> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter >> >> It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not >> for normal users. >> >> > > > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor with N800
I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res pdas/etc. OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing. When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd, etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still I think. Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used standalone or integrated into "larger" device when in car, etc. I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have almost. mike Kalle Valo wrote: > "ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, >> directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with >> VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on >> an external monitor. >> >> I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this >> possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. >> > > You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a > similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use > USB2VGA for that: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ > > http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter > > It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not > for normal users. > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor with N800
"ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, > directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with > VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on > an external monitor. > > I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this > possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use USB2VGA for that: http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not for normal users. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
External Monitor with N800
Here's a question (if I can resolve this my wife will buy me a N810): My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on an external monitor. I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
