[Mailman-Users] shunt messages
Hello, We are having some serious problem with a 2.1.2 mailman install. Some messages get transferred to qfiles/shunt and stay there forever. I am calling on your help on this one. I understand from previous mailing list posts that the shunt directory is used by mailman if: o messages are too large to get delivered o bug in mailman o problem with python installation The original error message (in logs/error) was indicating some problem with the 'strptime' module: This was confirmed: python Python 2.2 (#1, Aug 4 2003, 14:00:57) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import time time.strptime Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in ? AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'strptime' In the hope of remedying this, I have installed python 2.3 Python 2.3 (#1, Sep 17 2003, 21:23:32) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import time time.strptime built-in function strptime As you can see python is now happy with the time.strptime module. I then proceeded to reinstall mailman. All seemed fine. I then proceeded to unshunt the messages... In vain. They come back to the shunt directory. However, the error is different: Sep 18 08:42:40 2003 (15588) Uncaught runner exception: Empty module name Sep 18 08:42:40 2003 (15588) Traceback (most recent call last): File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipelin e sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 89, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in send_i18n_dig ests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 308, in process t = t.encode(charset, 'replace') File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/encodings/__init__.py, line 84, in search_func tion globals(), locals(), _import_tail) ValueError: Empty module name Sep 18 08:42:40 2003 (15588) SHUNTING: 1063634404.28272+cdaf6755ebc39a35d78f 3db0024abd9cce07 Any ideas? Nic CEH Oxford -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How to retrieve the password to create new lists?
Well, I can't remember the password to create news lists. Is it a way to retrieve it? I guess it was those I used to create the mailman list, but not. Any idea? Patrick Atlas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: Fwd: [Mailman-Users] shunt messages
OK... Just found that post in the mailman-developers list that did the
trick:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06317.html
Barry, as was noted in a private email to ya - the problem was solved
with
the following patch (courtesy of Mohammed Elzubeir),
--- Scrubber.py.orig 2003-08-13 23:19:19.0 -0700
+++ Scrubber.py 2003-08-14 00:23:47.0 -0700
@@ -305,6 +305,8 @@
t = unicode(t, 'ascii',
'replace').encode('ascii')
try:
# Should use HTML-Escape, or try generalizing to
UTF-8
+ if len(charset) == 0:
+ charset = 'us-ascii'
t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
except (UnicodeError, LookupError):
t = t.encode(lcset, 'replace')
once we applied the patch and 'unshunt'ed everything went through. We
did have a couple of messages with no Mime and Content-Type headers
(which are legal to have) and those seemed to have caused the problem.
A null charset within mailman caused our problems it seems and that
potential corner-case needs to be designed for. As for a sample - I
tried mailing the affected list a simple test from this yahoo
account and it got shunted (as noted there is nothing peculiar about
the messages - mailman simply got into a state/setting where it
started
shunting everything -- Larry Price notes a possible means to get into
the 'state' above). And again, I really don't think it was/is a
configuration/installation issue since the other 12 lists work without
any complaints and/or problems.
Cheers,
Nic
Nicolas Bertrand 09/18/03 09:14am
Nicolas Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 08:57am
Hello,
We are having some serious problem with a 2.1.2 mailman install. Some
messages get transferred to qfiles/shunt and stay there forever. I am
calling on your help on this one.
I understand from previous mailing list posts that the shunt directory
is used by mailman if:
o messages are too large to get delivered
o bug in mailman
o problem with python installation
The original error message (in logs/error) was indicating some problem
with the 'strptime' module:
This was confirmed:
python
Python 2.2 (#1, Aug 4 2003, 14:00:57)
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import time
time.strptime
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'strptime'
In the hope of remedying this, I have installed python 2.3
Python 2.3 (#1, Sep 17 2003, 21:23:32)
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import time
time.strptime
built-in function strptime
As you can see python is now happy with the time.strptime module.
I then proceeded to reinstall mailman. All seemed fine. I then
proceeded to unshunt the messages... In vain. They come back to the
shunt directory.
However, the error is different:
Sep 18 08:42:40 2003 (15588) Uncaught runner exception: Empty module
name
Sep 18 08:42:40 2003 (15588) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in
_dopipelin
e
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 89, in
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in
send_i18n_dig
ests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
File /Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 308, in
process
t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/encodings/__init__.py, line 84, in
search_func
tion
globals(), locals(), _import_tail)
ValueError: Empty module name
Sep 18 08:42:40 2003 (15588) SHUNTING:
1063634404.28272+cdaf6755ebc39a35d78f
3db0024abd9cce07
Any ideas?
Nic
CEH Oxford
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to retrieve the password to create new lists?
Answering myself. Here is a command line script that allows to set the site password: mmsitepas Patrick Atlas - Original Message - From: Patrick Atlas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to retrieve the password to create new lists? Well, I can't remember the password to create news lists. Is it a way to retrieve it? I guess it was those I used to create the mailman list, but not. Any idea? Patrick Atlas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/patrick.atlas%40mg-france.fr -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Connection to newsgroup help
I'm trying to connect mailman to a news-server. I entered all the parameters on the gateway config screen but nothing happens. Nothing seems to appear in the error logs either. Can mailman connect to any news server or is something else required? its working on my installation. every message vom the mailing list comes to the local newsserver/group. the problem here is the way back from new messages in the newsgroup to the mailinglist. can anybody help? tobias. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] File Location
Where does Mailman keep it's list of subscribers for each list? Simon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error trying to fix my list
Hello all. I am having problems with one of my lists. The problem is that when someone sends mail to the list, it goes into the archive, but no one receives the mail as they normally would. No one has messed with the settings as far as I can gather. Today I went into the settings and I recieved this error: Error: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's name by case only. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Nick -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] File Location
~mailman/lists/listname/config.pck On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 09:22, Simon Faulkner wrote: Where does Mailman keep it's list of subscribers for each list? Simon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] restricting web access to lists
Hi, I'm running mailman under apache 1.3 I'd like to be able to restrict access to /admin.cgi and /listinfo.cgi, because I don't want everyone to see all the available lists, while still allowing /admin.cgi/listname and /listinfo.cgi/listname. I'm not quite sure that is possible, but can anyone think of a way? Can mailman be configured so as to hide the lists, and only allow direct access to specific lists? Thanks Ricardo -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problems with HTML mails..
Hiya all! I'm having trouble sending through mail in HTML form (from my MS Outlook). They always bounces with a message that the file type wasn't explicitly allowed. Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting Halmvägen 42 SE-691 48 Karlskoga SWEDEN e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +46 586-322 43 Mobile: +46 70-203 19 15 ICQ Messenger number: 5044342 Yahoo! Messenger ID : norrbring -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] restricting web access to lists
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: [snip request to hide lists] I'm not quite sure that is possible, but can anyone think of a way? Can mailman be configured so as to hide the lists, and only allow direct access to specific lists? Ricardo- Setting the list option Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on this machine? to No for each list should accomplish what you desire. -jeff -- Jeff Godin Network Specialist Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman performance
Hello List FAQ: 1.15. What is the largest list Mailman can run? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.015.htp Surely sf.net has much more traffic than the examples listed here as they have over 700,000 users currently... Anyway, I am looking for some recommended hardware specs to run a list service with approx 500,000 users, with say 2-5 million emails per day. I understand all the MTA performance issues, there will be enough MTA servers and bandwith to handle the traffic, but my question is will mailman handle the load? Is anyone running a mailman installation of this size? If so I would love to hear about the processor and ram requirements. Would splitiing the mailman components up onto separate servers with a shared NFS disk be a good idea?? Thanks in Advance -- Peter Nixon http://www.peternixon.net/ PGP Key: http://www.peternixon.net/public.asc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] can I reset the list-admin passwords of many lists at the same time?
At 8:55 am -0700 9/17/03, Con wrote: You can update the MM site password using mmsitepass located in the ~mailman/bin directory Hi - thanks, but I was hoping there was some way of updating several ( well, lots) of list passwords at once, without using the site password, if you know what I mean. Thanks for replying M con On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 04:04 AM, Morna Findlay wrote: Hi all. As we have many lists owned by the same list-master, up to now we've just used the site password to moderate these lists and set up the lists with any odl gobbledegook as the password. Now we want to pass on the moderation to a member of staff who doesn't need to know the sit password. Question - can we reset the list-admin passwords pr 200+ lists all at once? Please say yes! cheers! Morna -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/cwieland%40uci.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Broken link on http://list.org/ page
At the top of http://list.org/ is a link Installation, which points to install-start.html. That page does not exist. I suspect it should instead point to install.html, which does exist. -- Allen Brown work: Agilent Technologies non-work: http://www.peak.org/~abrown/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] A sense of humor keen enough to show a man his own absurdities will keep him from the commission of all sins, or nearly all, save those that are worth committing. --- Samuel Butler -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Linking web to MailMan
Hello, I'm wondering if there is a way to subscribe to a MailMan mailing list via the host website. Previously, we were on a different server and had asp scripts to run the whole thing. The new server uses UNIX. Any tips or clues on how I could get someone to type their name and email, and have it automatically subscribe to MailMan? I am in dire need of any response. Please help! Thanks Max -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Initial Configuration
I have apparently successfully installed Mailman on a Red Hat 9.x server but now am faced with initial configuration questions. I was able to set the password using /var/mailman/bin/mmsitepass but am not sure what I am suppose to edit in /var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py for my site, or the significance of the /var/mailman/bin/upd update. Can I get a heads up on what needs to be configured to make this work? Thanx a heap! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] setting lots of list admin passwords at once
Thanks to Anand for his set_list_pass script at: http://www.progsoc.org/~wildfire/code/ Does just the job! Morna -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Antivirus
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Antivirus
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:25:02AM -0300, Víctor de Zavalía remarked: Dear Mailman: Does Mailman support antivirus features? Kind regards, Víctor de Zavalía I would be surprised if it did, but if so, I am interested in knowing about it ;-) Currently we are using amavisd with f-prot on Debian GNU/Linux to filter incoming viruses throught the Postfix MTA. Have Fun, Raymond pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problems with HTML mails..
Something went wrong, not the whole message went out?? Hiya all! I'm having trouble sending through mail in HTML form (from my MS Outlook). They always bounces with a message that the file type wasn't explicitly allowed. The settings in effect are filter_content = 1 filter_mime_types = 'application/octet-stream' pass_mime_types = multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html convert_html_to_plaintext = 0 And I really want html e-mails to pass, but not attachments that can cause damage (binaries - hence the octet-stream block). Please help me out here... Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting Halmvägen 42 SE-691 48 Karlskoga SWEDEN e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +46 586-322 43 Mobile: +46 70-203 19 15 ICQ Messenger number: 5044342 Yahoo! Messenger ID : norrbring -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance
PN == Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PN I understand all the MTA performance issues, there will be enough PN MTA servers and bandwith to handle the traffic, but my question is PN will mailman handle the load? Is anyone running a mailman How do you make mailman submit a single message to multiple MTA's? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses
Hi, My organization just made the switch from Majordomo to Mailman. I am most pleased with Mailman to say the least. I am, however, having one problem. A user will subscribe to the list with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED], but their address will actually be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail sent to the expanded address (some.name) will be received, but the person will be unable to post to the list because the message comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does that make sense? This is something that Majordomo never had a problem with. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks. -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:22:13PM -0500, Rob Day wrote: Hi, My organization just made the switch from Majordomo to Mailman. I am most pleased with Mailman to say the least. I am, however, having one problem. A user will subscribe to the list with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED], but their address will actually be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail sent to the expanded address (some.name) will be received, but the person will be unable to post to the list because the message comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does that make sense? No, this doesn't make sense. How are the users subscribing to the list? Via e-mail or web? It sounds to me like the user's MUA is misconfigured - either your e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] or it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't have it both ways - mailman should correctly treat those as separate people since there is absolutely no way for it to know the difference. If you're subscribed with some.name, then post from some.name. If you want to allow posting from other e-mail addresses, then configure mailman so that non-list members are allowed to post. If you restrict posting to list members, then the client must be configured to post from some.name. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman performance
Vivek Khera wrote: PN == Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PN I understand all the MTA performance issues, there will be enough PN MTA servers and bandwith to handle the traffic, but my question is PN will mailman handle the load? Is anyone running a mailman How do you make mailman submit a single message to multiple MTA's? You don't. why on earth would you want to do that? I will have several SMTP relay hosts in a load balance setup. The local MTA on the mailman server will therefore only be handling email between it and the SMTP relay host(s) on the same 100Mbit switch. I may have phrased the question slighly wrong, I should have said SMTP relay instead of MTA servers but I wis in a hurry, and I just wanted to make it clear that I didn't need tips on optimising SMTP but rather on Mailman itself... Cheers -- Peter Nixon http://www.peternixon.net/ PGP Key: http://www.peternixon.net/public.asc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] What MIME type is mailman
I need to add a ForceType line into my Apache configuration and I don't know what type the scripts are. Otherwise, my web browser tries to download the admin, create, ... files. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Fred _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:06 PM To: Rob Day Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:22:13PM -0500, Rob Day wrote: Hi, My organization just made the switch from Majordomo to Mailman. I am most pleased with Mailman to say the least. I am, however, having one problem. A user will subscribe to the list with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED], but their address will actually be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail sent to the expanded address (some.name) will be received, but the person will be unable to post to the list because the message comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does that make sense? No, this doesn't make sense. How are the users subscribing to the list? Via e-mail or web? It sounds to me like the user's MUA is misconfigured - either your e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] or it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't have it both ways - mailman should correctly treat those as separate people since there is absolutely no way for it to know the difference. If you're subscribed with some.name, then post from some.name. If you want to allow posting from other e-mail addresses, then configure mailman so that non-list members are allowed to post. If you restrict posting to list members, then the client must be configured to post from some.name. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Actually, it makes perfect sense. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias. SuSE OpenExchange creates such aliases by default for users. The simple way around this (for the admin) is to explicitly allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post to the list. This way, you don't open the whole list up to spammers. You could also unsub some.user@ and then subscribe sname@ Hopefully, it would be a rare occasion that you'd have to do this. Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What MIME type is mailman
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 09:25 pm, Fred Tyre wrote: I need to add a ForceType line into my Apache configuration and I don't know what type the scripts are. Mailman's CGI scripts return HTTP Content-type: response headers. Apache has no need to provide this information. Otherwise, my web browser tries to download the admin, create, ... files. Can anyone help me? It seems more likely that your problem is that you have not used a ScriptAlias directive or ExecCGI option in you httpd.conf, per the Mailman INSTALL, so that Apache knows it has to execute the Mailman ~CGI scripts. Thanks, Fred _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es --- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Version of Mailman: 2.1.2 Installed from source Version of OS: SuSE 8.0 MTA: Sendmail I have used http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp as guide in trying to track down my problem, but it seems to be a mystery. 0. Ran check_perms - no problem 1. Checked out grep for cron and mailmanctl no problem 2. Check aliases as written in faq - problem wrapper came back to majordomo. Substituted mailman for wrapper and all of the aliases appeared and pointed to the proper place. 3. Checked for Smrsh - no smrsh 4. Interface. No problem currently running production mail server. 5. qrunner does not appear to be a problem. Checked the qrunner log and there are commands in it for ArchRunner, CommandRunner, BounceRunner, IncomingRunner, VirginRunner, NewsRunner, and OutgoingRunner 6. Locks - Checked out and running process matched 7. Logs - The mail log looks good. It shows the incoming from me and to the list. Started checking Mailman logs: error - empty smtp-failure - doesn't exist smtp - I don't believe looks right. There are messages when I set up the list, but none from when I sent in the test message vette - doesn't exist config - doesn't exist post - doesn't exist qrunner - as I stated earlier, no visible problems. No locking problems, etc. 8. Qfiles - all directories are empty What other information do I need to provide? I'm able to add users, modify the different list configuration files, etc. through the web interface. I can even upload batch mass subscriptions and get the responses back. The one primary thing that I've noticed is that it returns the email to the list back to me without the [x-list] on the front. No error message - nothing. Hopefully, someone can help find the forest for the trees. Thanks, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] RE: can I reset the list-admin passwords of many lists at the same time?
morna findlay wrote: Hi - thanks, but I was hoping there was some way of updating several ( well, lots) of list passwords at once, without using the site password, if you know what I mean. From change_pw in mailman/bin : -- Thus, this script generates new passwords for a list, and optionally sends it to all the owners of the list. Usage: change_pw [options] Options: --all / -a Change the password for all lists. --domain=domain -d domain Change the password for all lists in the virtual domain `domain'. It is okay to give multiple -d options. --listname=listname -l listname Change the password only for the named list. It is okay to give multiple -l options. --password=newpassword -p newpassword Use the supplied plain text password `newpassword' as the new password for any lists that are being changed (as specified by the -a, -d, and -l options). If not given, lists will be assigned a randomly generated new password. --quiet / -q Don't notify list owners of the new password. You'll have to have some other way of letting the list owners know the new password (presumably out-of-band). --help / -h Print this help message and exit. Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:58:59PM -0500, Mike Kercher wrote: Actually, it makes perfect sense. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias. SuSE OpenExchange creates such aliases by default for users. The simple way around this (for the admin) is to explicitly allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post to the list. This way, you don't open the whole list up to spammers. You could also unsub some.user@ and then subscribe sname@ Hopefully, it would be a rare occasion that you'd have to do this. The proper approach to this is to rewrite the From address on the outbound address as well as aliasing the inbound. If the outbound e-mail is some.user@, then all will work properly. Allowing e-mail into the box to be consistently different than e-mail out of the box is a misconfiguration to me. There is no way for Mailman to know that the 2 addresses are equivalent unless somebody goes in there and manually updates the permissions list. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:19 PM To: Mike Kercher Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:58:59PM -0500, Mike Kercher wrote: Actually, it makes perfect sense. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias. SuSE OpenExchange creates such aliases by default for users. The simple way around this (for the admin) is to explicitly allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post to the list. This way, you don't open the whole list up to spammers. You could also unsub some.user@ and then subscribe sname@ Hopefully, it would be a rare occasion that you'd have to do this. The proper approach to this is to rewrite the From address on the outbound address as well as aliasing the inbound.If the outbound e-mail is some.user@, then all will work properly. Allowing e-mail into the box to be consistently different than e-mail out of the box is a misconfiguration to me. There is no way for Mailman to know that the 2 addresses are equivalent unless somebody goes in there and manuallyupdates the permissions list. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree on your first point. I don't see it as being a misconfiguration. I see it a method of NOT exposing a username. I have many servers with email aliases that eventually get routed to me, but I don't have an email account anywhere named [EMAIL PROTECTED] That doesn't mean I can't reply to an email sent to that address...but any reply would not come from postmaster@ I do agree with your second statement...there is no way for Mailman to know, which is why I said to make one of the suggested changes above. Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Linking web to MailMan
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 20:47, Max Kennedy wrote: Hello, I'm wondering if there is a way to subscribe to a MailMan mailing list via the host website. Previously, we were on a different server and had asp scripts to run the whole thing. The new server uses UNIX. Any tips or clues on how I could get someone to type their name and email, and have it automatically subscribe to MailMan? I am in dire need of any response. Please help! Thanks Max Don't feel blue, Max. You need to read the FAQ or the Mailman docs. Each list in Mailman has a listinfo page available via the web. Your users should be able to access the listinfo page and subscribe to a list there. They can also send a subscribe note to the listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] and get subscribed. Have fun with your new install, Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman performance
PN == Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do you make mailman submit a single message to multiple MTA's? PN You don't. why on earth would you want to do that? load balancing. redundancy. etc. I've got two really fast outbound servers with SSD mail spools. Why not send parts of the message to each? Or even alternate between them across messages (ie, choose one per message). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Python for dummies?
Hi all,
I want to add to the list of lists page a direct link to the
archives for each list. So I hacked listinfo.py and added
Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('private'), Bold(mlist.real_name)),
This looks good, and when the link is clicked everthing seems right,
but the URL is .../mailman/private/listname not
.../mailman/private/listname/ and the links to the archives by thread,
subject etc do not work as they lack the listname in the URL. I can not
find a way to add the trailing slash to the code that generates the URL.
Any help?
Paul
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[Mailman-Users] Digging deeper into Python
Follow up on my last post. I went to MailList.py and added a new function to give me the URL with the trailing slash. Now all is good. Paul, who is going to have to find time to actually LEARN Python -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python for dummies?
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Paul H Byerly wrote:
I want to add to the list of lists page a direct link to the
archives for each list. So I hacked listinfo.py and added
Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('private'), Bold(mlist.real_name)),
This looks good, and when the link is clicked everthing seems right,
but the URL is .../mailman/private/listname not
.../mailman/private/listname/ and the links to the archives by thread,
subject etc do not work as they lack the listname in the URL. I can not
find a way to add the trailing slash to the code that generates the URL.
What about this:
Link(mlist.GetBaseArchiveURL(), Bold('Archives'))
If you wanted to add a / onto the link (which was not needed with
GetBaseArchiveURL() in the quick test I did), you could do this:
Link(mlist.GetBaseArchiveURL() + '/', Bold('Archives'))
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