[Mailman-Users] Re: How to delete large numbers of held messages

2022-04-21 Thread lists--- via Mailman-Users
Sam Kuper wrote:

> > You posted your thread to the Mailman 2.1 mailing list:
> mailman-users@python.org
> 
> 
> You therefore got a reply appropriate to Mailman 2.1.

My mistake, apologies. I will post to the MM3 list now!
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[Mailman-Users] Re: How to delete large numbers of held messages

2022-04-21 Thread lists--- via Mailman-Users
Thanks for the reply Mark, where do I get the discard script from?

We are using Mailman3 but the only "discard" I can find belongs to postfix:
/usr/lib/postfix/sbin/discard

There is a bin/discard on our Mailman 2.1 server but not on our Mailman 3.1 
server

Thanks
Chris
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[Mailman-Users] How to delete large numbers of held messages

2022-04-21 Thread lists--- via Mailman-Users
We had a mail loop on one of our lists and ended up with over 51k messages in 
pending (held due to post not form a list member)

Trying to delete them from the web UI will take forever, as the largest 
pagination you can view is 200 at a time.

Tried to delete them from the Python interactive shell, but it looks like the 
API times out after a while.

Is there another way to delete all these unwanted held posts?

The problem comes after executing:


reqs = list(adminlist.held)


After a couple of minutes it comes back with:


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 699, in 
urlopen
httplib_response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 445, in 
_make_request
six.raise_from(e, None)
  File "", line 3, in raise_from
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 440, in 
_make_request
httplib_response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/http/client.py", line 1347, in getresponse
response.begin()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/http/client.py", line 307, in begin
version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status
raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without"
http.client.RemoteDisconnected: Remote end closed connection without response

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 439, in send
resp = conn.urlopen(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 755, in 
urlopen
retries = retries.increment(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 532, in 
increment
raise six.reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/six.py", line 718, in reraise
raise value.with_traceback(tb)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 699, in 
urlopen
httplib_response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 445, in 
_make_request
six.raise_from(e, None)
  File "", line 3, in raise_from
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 440, in 
_make_request
httplib_response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/http/client.py", line 1347, in getresponse
response.begin()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/http/client.py", line 307, in begin
version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/http/client.py", line 276, in _read_status
raise RemoteDisconnected("Remote end closed connection without"
urllib3.exceptions.ProtocolError: ('Connection aborted.', 
RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response'))

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", 
line 107, in call
response = request(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/api.py", line 61, in request
return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 542, in 
request
resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 655, in send
r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 498, in send
raise ConnectionError(err, request=request)
requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', 
RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response'))

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailmanclient/restobjects/mailinglist.py", line 
123, in held
response, content = self._connection.call(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/connection.py", 
line 135, in call
raise MailmanConnectionError(
mailmanclient.restbase.connection.MailmanConnectionError: ('Could not connect 
to Mailman API: ', "ConnectionError(ProtocolError('Connection aborted.', 
RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response')))")

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread jonathan . mailing . lists
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> Jon Baron writes:
> > 
> > Prevented the use of digest on the list. I noticed that a large
> > proportion of the bounces came from members who had chosen the digest
> > format. I suspect that this had to do with the MIME encoding.
>
> I don't think that's likely, although it's possible.  Most mail
> nowadays is MIME-encoded.  More likely the problem is the boilerplate
> in the header and table of contents, and there are likely to be a
> *lot* of URLs for stripped attachments (if you set that).
>
> > Probably there are ways to avoid having to [disable digests].
>
> I imagine there are, but it depends on why it was necessary, if indeed
> it was. :-)  As you describe it it is *very* low-cost for your
> subscribers so randomly ;-) disabling it to see if that helps is a
> reasonable strategy.


Just on the topic of Digest emails, I got this bounce today. Is it because of 
the From: and To: fields or a more fundamental problem?

Action: failed
Status: 4.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; eu-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 451 Open relay not allowed -
https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#451

From: listname-requ...@example.co.uk
Subject: Listname Digest, Vol no, Issue 1
To: listn...@example.co.uk
Reply-To: listn...@example.co.uk

The Mimecast website states:

"Both the sender AND recipient domains specified in the transmission are 
external to Mimecast, and aren't allowed to relay through the Mimecast service 
and / or the connecting IP address isn't recognized as authorized.  
Mimecast customers should contact Mimecast Support for add the Authorized 
Outbound address, or to take other remedial action."

Best wishes

Jonathan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

2013-03-14 Thread ml lists
On 13 March 2013 22:56, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 Lists can be configured to send digests periodically
 (digest_send_periodic = Yes), but the frequency is determined by how
 often Mailman's cron/senddigests runs.

 You have probably set digest_size_threshhold to 0 thinking this means
 unlimited instead of 'send a digest with every post'. See the current
 doc at http://www.list.org/mailman-admin/node19.html and the bug
 report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/558274.

I had/have the following
digest_size_threshhold = 30
digest_send_periodic = no
digest_volume_frequency = weekly

And if I understood correctly, this regardless of threshhold size
should only send weekly, no?

With cron/senddigests  should there be a crontab entry on the system
for this or is it controlled elsewhere?
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[Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

2013-03-13 Thread ml lists
Hello,

I am having some problems with a mailman list that i administer.   The list
is configured to send digest emails once a week (via the web ui) but this
is not happening, instead emails are being sent individually, as they are
posted to the list, but tagged as digest.

Would anyone have any suggestion how to fix this so they are sent weekly?

I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and mailman 2.1.14-1
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Re: [Mailman-Users] 25,000 unsubscribes in one hour

2010-07-09 Thread lists
Easiest wasy to check, is to send a message to one of the addresses from 
the same domain, i.e. Yahoo email to Yahoo email.  If real bounce, Yahoo 
will give you that message immediately.  Same with Hotmail, AOL, etc.


- Original Message -
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
To: d...@danshow.com, mailman-users@python.org
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:20:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 25,000 unsubscribes in one hour

 Dan Sherbondy wrote:
 
 Over a month ago I used mailman for a 100,000 mailing.
  
 Yesterday, in a 4 hour span, I received 25,000 unsubscribe notifications
 such as lupethereal...@yahoo.com has been removed from TopCARealtors
 
 I normally received 100 unsubscribes per mailing so I think something is
 wrong and dont want to remove these people from my list unless they
 really unsubscribed.
 
 Is the unsubscribe notice used for bad addresses as well as
 unsubscribes?
 
 
 Yes. When a member is unsubscribed by automated bounce processind, the
 same message is sent to the list owner if
 bounce_notify_owner_on_removal is Yes.
 
 Also, if bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes, there will be a notice
 to the list owner containing the  triggering bounce at the time the
 member's delivery is disabled which may or may bot be the same as the
 time the member is removed depending on the setting of
 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings.
   
 So these may have been legitimate bounce unsubscribes or they may have
 been bounce unsubscribes due to some abnormal mail delivery failure or
 they may be something else.
 
 It's hard to say anything more without seeing the list's Bounce
 processing settings, Mailman's bounce log and perhaps MTA logs.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

2010-07-09 Thread lists
I did restart Mailman, but I neglected to make sure all qrunners were 
stopped.

I just want to be alble to send graphics inline, so it looks like this will 
work.  I will try and change in low peak usage.

Thanks.



- Original Message -
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
To: li...@viplist.us, mailman-users@python.org
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:05:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

 li...@viplist.us wrote:
 
 It looks like each file that calls a txt file would have to be changed, 
or 
 is there somewhere that I can globally change the
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 
 
 to iso-8859-1?  I know I would then have to change all text files that 
are 
 emailed (after figuring out which ones are emailed and which ones are 
 simply includes.)
 
 
 Why would you need to change any templates? the 'en' ones are all
 us-ascii which is a proper subset of iso-8859-1.
 
 
 I tried changing the selection in Defaults.py  for English to 
iso-8859-1, 
 but that did not do it.
 
 
 It seems you've changed the question from how do I put HTML into .txt
 templates to how do I change the character set of Mailman generated
 list mail.
 
 From this, I gather that the real issue you are trying to address is
 inclusion of non-ascii characters in templates.
 
 If that is the case, changing the character set for 'en' from us-ascii
 to iso-8859-1 or utf-8 should work provided the non-ascii characters
 in the templates are encoded in the same (iso-8859-1 or utf-8)
 encoding.
 
 It is best not to change this in Defaults.py, but rather override it in
 mm_cfg.py (see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/fIA9) with a line
 
 add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'iso-8859-1', 'ltr')
 
 (and the omission of the i18n _() around 'English (USA)' is
 intentional).
 
 As to why this didn't seem to work when you changed Defaults.py, did
 you restart Mailman after the change?
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

2010-07-09 Thread lists
I changed, restarted, but cannot send html email.  It shows up all as html 
coding.

What my clients want to do is to be able to send a html email, for the 
welcome email, the confirmation email, the help email, etc.

- Original Message -
From: li...@viplist.us
To: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net,  mailman-users@python.org
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:12:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

 I did restart Mailman, but I neglected to make sure all qrunners were 
 stopped.
 
 I just want to be alble to send graphics inline, so it looks like this 
will 
 work.  I will try and change in low peak usage.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
 To: li...@viplist.us, mailman-users@python.org
 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:05:09 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files
 
  li...@viplist.us wrote:
  
  It looks like each file that calls a txt file would have to be 
changed, 
 or 
  is there somewhere that I can globally change the
  
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 
  
  to iso-8859-1?  I know I would then have to change all text files that 
 are 
  emailed (after figuring out which ones are emailed and which ones are 
  simply includes.)
  
  
  Why would you need to change any templates? the 'en' ones are all
  us-ascii which is a proper subset of iso-8859-1.
  
  
  I tried changing the selection in Defaults.py  for English to 
 iso-8859-1, 
  but that did not do it.
  
  
  It seems you've changed the question from how do I put HTML into .txt
  templates to how do I change the character set of Mailman generated
  list mail.
  
  From this, I gather that the real issue you are trying to address is
  inclusion of non-ascii characters in templates.
  
  If that is the case, changing the character set for 'en' from us-ascii
  to iso-8859-1 or utf-8 should work provided the non-ascii characters
  in the templates are encoded in the same (iso-8859-1 or utf-8)
  encoding.
  
  It is best not to change this in Defaults.py, but rather override it in
  mm_cfg.py (see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/fIA9) with a line
  
  add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'iso-8859-1', 'ltr')
  
  (and the omission of the i18n _() around 'English (USA)' is
  intentional).
  
  As to why this didn't seem to work when you changed Defaults.py, did
  you restart Mailman after the change?
  
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  San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
  
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

2010-07-08 Thread lists
It looks like each file that calls a txt file would have to be changed, or 
is there somewhere that I can globally change the

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 

to iso-8859-1?  I know I would then have to change all text files that are 
emailed (after figuring out which ones are emailed and which ones are 
simply includes.)

I tried changing the selection in Defaults.py  for English to iso-8859-1, 
but that did not do it.

- Original Message -
From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
To: Lists li...@viplist.us, mailman-users@python.org
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:08:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

 Lists wrote:
 
 So instead of the ones being text to make them html?  I have a client 
 asking and I cannot find a way to do that.  Ideas?
 
 Example, the verify.txt, subscribeack.txt,  etc. into verify.html and 
 subscribeack.html.  They are processed them as and that is not what I 
 want.
 
 
 You would need to modify the source code to do this.
 
 Without modifying code, if you create a list or domain or even a site
 modified template per the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9 and
 name it verify.html or subscribeack.html, it will simply not be found
 and the default template will be used.
 
 If you create an edited list or domain or site template named
 verify.txt or subscribeack.txt and containing HTML, it will still be
 sent in a plain text email message so will appear as the raw HTML, not
 rendered.
 
 You would need to modify the code that uses the template to create a
 message with MIME Content-Type: text/html, as well as creating the
 HTML template.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change the template files

2010-07-07 Thread Lists
So instead of the ones being text to make them html?  I have a client 
asking and I cannot find a way to do that.  Ideas?

Example, the verify.txt, subscribeack.txt,  etc. into verify.html and 
subscribeack.html.  They are processed them as and that is not what I 
want.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help?

2010-02-07 Thread Judys Email Lists
I am relatively new to mailman and am running about a dozen lists.  One 
of them seems to have been picked up by the spammers


prtspecials-ow...@mail.trest.com
prtmembers-ow...@mail.trest.com

Is there any segment in the software I can change that will bounce these 
messages and yet allow legitimate messages go through?


I am running Mailman on LINUX Fedora Core 11 using send mail and Mailman.

Thanks
Judy Trest
Trest Consulting



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server

2008-09-11 Thread lists
Mailman is under email, mailing lists in Cpanel (Not WHM.)  It is extremely 
easy to setup once you create the list in Cpanel.  Email me back if you 
cannot figure it out, and I can walk you through it.

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To: mailman-users@python.org
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:05:39 +0300
Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server

 
 hello, I have a problem if anyone can help me. I'm in the autoparts 
business and I had a small hosting plan with cpanel where I could install 
mailman with just one click. I have a mailing list of my customers with 
about 400 subscribers and send them weekly updates once a week and monthly 
updates once a month. but as my business grew big I needed a dedicated 
server to put my data and manuals and videos on. so I bought a server and 
paid for several months upfront. but for my surprise I could not find 
mailman ready to be installed in its control panel (webmin).  I'm no 
computer tech, could someone install mailman for me on the server? I'm 
ready to pay for the installation. Thank you   
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server

2008-09-11 Thread lists
You are right.  The *old* server was Cpanel.  :(  

- Original Message -
From: Brian Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],'faisal anif' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
mailman-users@python.org
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:30:51 -0400
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server

  Mailman is under email, mailing lists in Cpanel (Not WHM.)  It is
  extremely
  easy to setup once you create the list in Cpanel.  Email me back if you
  cannot figure it out, and I can walk you through it.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: faisal anif [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: mailman-users@python.org
  Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:05:39 +0300
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman on a dedicated server
  
  
   hello, I have a problem if anyone can help me. I'm in the autoparts
  business and I had a small hosting plan with cpanel where I could
  install
  mailman with just one click. I have a mailing list of my customers with
  about 400 subscribers and send them weekly updates once a week and
  monthly
  updates once a month. but as my business grew big I needed a dedicated
  server to put my data and manuals and videos on. so I bought a server
  and
  paid for several months upfront. but for my surprise I could not find
  mailman ready to be installed in its control panel (webmin).  I'm no
  computer tech, could someone install mailman for me on the server? I'm
  ready to pay for the installation. Thank you
  
  
 
 You might want to re-read his message. His new dedicated server is running
 webmin not cpanel.
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Availability of patches on Launchpad

2008-09-07 Thread lists
It looks like logging out and closing everything and relogging in allows me 
to see a few patches.  However, in addition to yours, dozens of others are 
missing.

I can't say I think much of the usefulness of Lauchpad's search functions, 
since there is not one to simply search a project.  Maybe I a missing 
something, but this seems a step backward is usefulness and ease of use.  
No real descriptions of what the patches are (have to go tree by tree) 
dimishes the usefulness.

This looks like it is more difficult to use for all, plus with most patches 
missing, not very useful.  Even the one I wanted is not here, now and it 
was on Sourceforge Monday.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailman-users@python.org
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 19:17:10 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Availability of patches on Launchpad

 If you are a user of patches I have published for Mailman in the past  
 then read on. Otherwise, apologies for cluttering up your mailbox.
 
 In the recent switch from Sourceforge to Launchpad a number of the  
 current patches that I publish for Mailman do not appear to have made  
 the cut and are now unavailable from either Sourceforge or Launchpad.  
 As far as I am aware none of the patches that did not make it have  
 been incorporated into core Mailman but I am willing to be corrected  
 on this.
 
 Subject to the usual caveat that I will only maintain it while I use  
 it myself, I shall continue to publish my patches via:
 
 http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/index.html
 
 The tableau below summarise what I believe to be the case.
 
 Format of tableau is:
 
 SourceforgeNumber LaunchpadNumber Description
 
 - means unavailable on Launchpad
 
 made the cut
 
 444879 266553 Archive indexer control to improve indexing.
 444884 266554 Integration of Mailman  htdig for archive searching.
 
 did not make the cut
 
 644797 - Revised mailer exit status.
 760567 - Moderation request message content.
 820723 - Mailman/pipermail/MHonarc integration
 850805 - Aggressive anti email address harvesting measures
 1442025 - List Specialisation for Support Groups
 1483446 - Daily mbox files for list mbox archives
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Availability of patches on Launchpad

2008-09-07 Thread lists
Not sure what patches your are seeing, but right now there are zero patches 
on Launchpad and the are removed from Sourceforge. 

Having two different Mailman listings on Launchpad does not help, either.  
Only one has the pogram - but neither have any patches.

https://launchpad.net/mailman/+download

has the standard Mailman program.

~mailman has nothing.

Where are you seeing any patches at all?



- Original Message -
From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailman-users@python.org
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 19:17:10 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Availability of patches on Launchpad

 If you are a user of patches I have published for Mailman in the past  
 then read on. Otherwise, apologies for cluttering up your mailbox.
 
 In the recent switch from Sourceforge to Launchpad a number of the  
 current patches that I publish for Mailman do not appear to have made  
 the cut and are now unavailable from either Sourceforge or Launchpad.  
 As far as I am aware none of the patches that did not make it have  
 been incorporated into core Mailman but I am willing to be corrected  
 on this.
 
 Subject to the usual caveat that I will only maintain it while I use  
 it myself, I shall continue to publish my patches via:
 
 http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/index.html
 
 The tableau below summarise what I believe to be the case.
 
 Format of tableau is:
 
 SourceforgeNumber LaunchpadNumber Description
 
 - means unavailable on Launchpad
 
 made the cut
 
 444879 266553 Archive indexer control to improve indexing.
 444884 266554 Integration of Mailman  htdig for archive searching.
 
 did not make the cut
 
 644797 - Revised mailer exit status.
 760567 - Moderation request message content.
 820723 - Mailman/pipermail/MHonarc integration
 850805 - Aggressive anti email address harvesting measures
 1442025 - List Specialisation for Support Groups
 1483446 - Daily mbox files for list mbox archives
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending email to list users / Archives giving 403

2008-07-16 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:

Mark Sapiro wrote:


Do posts get archived?
No. Not one of the test emails I've sent to the test list are 
archived. So it's dieing some where between being received and sent 
to the in queue.



Actually, the exim log entry you posted says the mail was delivered 
via the mailman-transport which says it was piped to


  /mail/listdomain.net/mailman/mail/mailman post test

which, assuming that wrapper and the 'post' script are not totally 
broken to the point that they terminate normally without doing 
anything, says that the mail made it to qfiles/in.




See http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.






Check the various things in the above FAQ article.

I managed to get this working. It turned out to be what I thought it 
was, Permissions issues. I had to go in and change the permissions back 
bin/check_perms -f didn't do it.



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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending email to list users / Archives giving 403

2008-07-15 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]
I had a server crash and I needed to move two domains that are using 
mailman lists to a new server. I didn't think this was a big deal 
because they were moved from server that was taken out of production to 
the server that crashed without issue. Everything seems to be working 
just fine. They can manage their lists and add new ones but two things 
are happening now.


First, the archives are giving 403 errors when you try to view them. 
Apache logs a client denied by server configuration: error. Here are 
the current permissions:


drwxrws--x  26 root mailman 808 Jul  9 14:36 private
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman 288 Jul  9 14:36 public

All the subdirectories in private are set to drwxrwsr-x with the 
root:mailman user/group. All the html and txt files are set to 644. And 
in the .mbox dirs the .mbox file is set to 664.


I'm not sure why it's pulling a 403 error. Is there something I missed? 
I ran bin/check_perms -f everything once they were moved over and it 
fixed all the permissions and ownerships.


Second, none of the email is being sent to the list users. If a new user 
joins the list the welcome letter is sent. If a non-user tries to post 
to the list the moderators are emailed and the poster is emailed the 
your post awaits approval but the registered list users are not 
receiving emails.


This is what I see in the maillog: 2008-07-14 16:13:20 1KIUQB-00053s-5D 
= test [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport


I'm using Exim 4.69 with Mailman 2.1.10

Exim Config:

Router:
mailman_router:
   driver = accept
   require_files = 
/mail/${domain}/mailman/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck

   local_part_suffix_optional
   local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \
   -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \
   -owner : -request : -admin
   transport = mailman_transport

Transport:
mailman_transport:
   driver = pipe
   command = /mail/${domain}/mailman/mail/mailman \
 '${if def:local_part_suffix \
   {${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \
   {post}}' \
 $local_part
   current_directory = /mail/${domain}/mailman
   home_directory = /mail/${domain}/mailman
   user = MAILMAN_USER
   group = MAILMAN_GROUP


MAILMAN_USER and MAILMAN_GROUP are mailman.

Can anyone give me any insight on this please?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending email to list users / Archives giving 403

2008-07-15 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]

Mark Sapiro wrote:


Do you have a directory block in your apache config for the 
archives/public directory something like


Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public
Options +FollowSymLinks
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
$
If that isn't it, are you running SELinux or some other security 
policy manager What's in Apache's error_log?

OK this worked I can now get to the archives. Thanks.




Second, none of the email is being sent to the list users.



Do posts get archived?
No. Not one of the test emails I've sent to the test list are archived. 
So it's dieing some where between being received and sent to the in queue.



All of the exim stuff above has to do with mail TO Mailman. If posts 
are getting queued in Mailman's 'in' queue or getting beyond that to 
the list archives, all that is working.


See http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.


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[Mailman-Users] problem with subscribe

2008-05-08 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo mailman-users,

When I send a message to duinheks-test-subscribe, the request
does not arrive in mailman, but produces the following in the
error log:
May 08 21:47:51 2008 (3636) Uncaught runner exception: 'NoneType' object has 
no
attribute 'lower'
May 08 21:47:51 2008 (3636) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 114, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 185, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py, line 241, in _dispose
res.do_command('join')
  File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py, line 139, in do_command
return handler.process(self, args)
  File /opt/mailman/Mailman/Commands/cmd_subscribe.py, line 74, in process
if digest is None and password.lower() in ('digest', 'nodigest'):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
May 08 21:47:51 2008 (3636) SHUNTING:
1210276071.4968121+a7b07b7c3e9162f8487f34b404c47109de1dd745

I'm using mailman 2.1.10 under SlackWare 12.0.

Please help me, I have not the faintest idea where to look.

Groeten,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with subscribe

2008-05-08 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Barry,

Op donderdag 08 mei 2008 schreef Barry Finkel aan Mailman-Users@python.org:

  When I send a message to duinheks-test-subscribe, the request
  does not arrive in mailman, but produces the following in the
  error log:
  May 08 21:47:51 2008 (3636) SHUNTING:
  1210276071.4968121+a7b07b7c3e9162f8487f34b404c47109de1dd745

 BF A search of the list archives shows that this is a 2.1.10 bug
 BF for which Mark Sapiro has released a patch.

I *thought* I had read something about it, but coud not find
it anymore. Maybe because it was the end of a log hot day :)
It is working now.
Thank you very much!

Groeten,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to make a list read-only ?

2008-04-25 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Mark and Joerg,

Op donderdag 24 april 2008 schreef Mark Sapiro aan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 MS This is desdribed at
 MS www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp.

Many thanks to both of you.

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[Mailman-Users] How to import a list of members?

2008-04-25 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo mailman-users,

Is it possible to import an ASCII list of members for a
mailing list?
If yes, how to do it?

Groeten,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to import a list of members?

2008-04-25 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Zbigniew,

Op vrijdag 25 april 2008 schreef Zbigniew Szalbot aan
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  Is it possible to import an ASCII list of members for a
  mailing list?
 ZS Take a look at bin/add_members script
 ZS Run it with --help to see what options there are

Lovely! That seems to de exactly what I want. Thank tou very
much for your help.

Groeten,

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[Mailman-Users] How to make a list read-only ?

2008-04-24 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo mailman-users,

I believe I saw this question before, but I couldn't find it any
more.
I'd like to configure a list so that only a few users may post
to it. In other words, make it a news letter.
How can I achieve this?

Groeten,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change to new hostname?

2008-02-28 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo MArk,

Op woensdag 27 februari 2008 schreef Mark Sapiro aan
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  My system will get a different hostname soon.
  How can I tell mailman that it has a new hostname?
 MS See
 MS http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.02
 MS 9.htp.

Thank you!

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[Mailman-Users] How to change to new hostname?

2008-02-27 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo mailman-users,

My system will get a different hostname soon.
How can I tell mailman that it has a new hostname?

Groeten,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? accessing public archives

2007-12-03 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Mark,

Op zondag 25 november 2007 schreef Mark Sapiro aan
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  MS http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node9.html.
  This link cannot be found :(
 MS It works for me, but there are mirrors at
 MS http://mailman.sf.net/mailman-install/node9.html and
 MS http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node9.html

Strange that it doesn't work for me. But never mind, I found the
information I needed.

 MS Also, since you are apparently installing from source, it is in
 MS the source directory at admin/www/mailman-install/node9.html.

Because I have problems reading a graphics screen, I tend not to
look at .html files, but print the .ps or .pdf, if available.

  But I think I found what you mean :)
 MS The warning box I refer to talks about the necessity for the web
 MS server to have search (x) permission on the archives/private
 MS directory

Right.

  server (postfix) was running with group mailman instead of bbs.
  But postfix does not belong to group mailman...
 MS Postfix runs a pipe as the user that owns the aliases file in
 MS which the pipe is found.

OK, That's nice to know.

Thank you very much for your help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? accessing public archives

2007-11-25 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Mark,

Op zaterdag 24 november 2007 schreef Mark Sapiro aan
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  But when I try to connect to
  duinheks.xs4all.nl/pipermail/amc-support I get a 403:
  forbidden error: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not
  accessible: /opt/mailman/archives/public/amc-support
  What else should I look at?

 MS The information in the 'warning' box at
 MS http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node9.html.

This link cannot be found :(
But I think I found what you mean :)

I now configured Mailman with
--prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-gid=www
and all seems to work.
A bit strange, because if I read the entry for --with-cgi-gid
correctly, www should be taken as default.

Another thing I don't understand is this: originally I configure
with
--prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=bbs --with-cgi-gid=www
but then Mailman complained because the mail server (postfix) was
running with group mailman instead of bbs.
But postfix does not belong to group mailman...

Groeten,

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[Mailman-Users] ? accessing public archives

2007-11-24 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo,

I created a mailing list using Mailman for the first time and have
a problem accessing the public archives.

The FAQ told me to put the FollowSymLinks option into the httpd.conf.
I did that:
Directory /opt/mailman/archives/public/
AddDefaultCharSet off
AllowOverride None
Options FollowSymLinks
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
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But when I try to connect to duinheks.xs4all.nl/pipermail/amc-support
I get a 403: forbidden error:
Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible:
/opt/mailman/archives/public/amc-support

What else should I look at?

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[Mailman-Users] ? how to delete mailing lists

2007-11-18 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo,

I've installed mailman 2.1.9 this weekend and so far I like it.
I have one question to which I could not find the answer in the
documentation:
how do I delete a mailing list?
No doubt there will be more questions later :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? how to delete mailing lists

2007-11-18 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Brad,

Op zondag 18 november 2007 schreef Brad Knowles aan
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   I have one question to which I could not find the answer in the
   documentation:
   how do I delete a mailing list?

 BK In addition to the Mailman documentation at
 BK http://www.list.org/docs.html, there is also the Mailman FAQ
 BK Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py.

 BK If you search the FAQ Wizard for remove a list, you should
 BK find the answer.

Maybe. But delete a list did not give me any clues :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? how to delete mailing lists

2007-11-18 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Sebastian,

Op zondag 18 november 2007 schreef Sebastian Hagedorn aan

  it. I have one question to which I could not find the answer
  in the documentation:
  how do I delete a mailing list?
 SH rmlist

That works perfectly. Thank you very much.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? how to delete mailing lists

2007-11-18 Thread lists . mailman-users
Hallo Mark,

Op zondag 18 november 2007 schreef Mark Sapiro aan
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  Maybe. But delete a list did not give me any clues :)
 MS The FAQ wizard thinks the quotes in delete a list are part of
 MS what you're searching for. If you search for the simple string
 MS   delete a list

Thank you. I'll remember that next time I need it [I hope :)].

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting

2007-10-25 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]
Brad Knowles wrote:
 On 10/24/07, Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:

  I guess the real question is will it do a history too? I need to figure
  out past history.

 As the author of mmdsr, I'll say that you should be able to feed it 
 old Mailman log data and have it just work, but I won't guarantee 
 that.  If you try this and it doesn't work for you, please let me know 
 and I'll try to work with you to modify the code so that it does just 
 work when fed old log data.


 Keep in mind that there's a good chunk of mmdsr where it goes and 
 looks at the current status of what is in the various queue 
 directories, etc... and this obviously won't be relevant for 
 processing of historical log data.

 I should probably add a command-line flag so that you can tell it 
 whether to just do the summary based on the log data (which should 
 work regardless of whether the data is historical or current), or to 
 do the log data summary plus the current condition report.

 Let me think about that, and see if I have any time available.

Alright, I just ran a blanketed request that went through the whole log 
file, which was pretty nice since I haven't rotated ever. It goes back 
to April 2006. I do have some questions about the report though, and 
please forgive my ignorance. I use MM but I really haven't dove into 
like I should have so I'm still a little shaky on how things work.

According to the report one list has 14,297 posts but according to the 
Post Count by Sender report 13,797 of those posts came from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] So does that mean that only 500 posts were made by 
members or are those 13,797 more then just commands from the members? I 
would appreciate a better explanation on that.

Also, under the Hourly Summary of Message Sent report from the smtp log. 
The totals are based on how many email addresses the message was sent 
to, correct? So if a list has 250 members it counts each message per 
member? I know that it bundles the message per connection so a single 
SMTP connect could have 100 messages in it. I just want to make sure.

The problem is that my email server is being beaten in to the ground and 
it looks like this clients lists (they have 8 or so) are seeing a heavy 
increase in membership and frequency. I need to put numbers together so 
I can tell them they need to either get a dedicated list server or pay 
more (so I can upgrade!).

Any help would be great. I'm just a bit ignorant on the internal 
workings of MM but am learning. Plus I don't know Python from a hole in 
the ground so I'm leery about messing with code to much.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting

2007-10-25 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]
Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:

   
 Mark Sapiro wrote:
 
 This is a bug in Mailman pre 2.1.7 that logged the envelope sender of
 the outgoing message instead of the incoming message.

   
   
 So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly then  that some of those 
 message could be valid posts made by members since this list was around 
 since 2.1.4 or so?
 


 These are all valid posts made by list members. Everything in the
 'post' log should be a valid post to the list. Occasionally, when
 there is an smtp-failure on a mailman generated message (say a reject
 of spam with a forged non-existant local address), you can get a
 failure entry in the post log even though the message wasn't a post,
 but if you filter out the failures (or the
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-ids), everything else is
 a legitimate list post.

 Note that these failures appear in the mmdsr report under Other
 Messages:-Log file: post.


   
Thanks. That helps a lot.
   
 Thanks for the information. I'm tearing apart the post log because I 
 want to get the total size of the message. Then I need to figure out how 
 many emails where sent so I can figure out bandwidth usage. I mean if 
 they send a 10K file to a list with 1,000 members that's a lot of 
 bandwidth to send out.
 


 Yes, but if you want to be truly accurate, you also have to look at
 your MTA logs.

 For example, if a 10K message is sent to a list with 1000 members, and
 the list is not personalized, and the message is not VERPed in
 Mailman, mailman might deliver this to the MTA in say 5 transactions
 with 200 recipients each for a total exchange between Mailman and the
 MTA of about 50K plus the address list.

 The MTA in turn might batch delivery so if say 50 of those 1000
 recipients are in the aol.com domain, the MTA might send one 10K +
 transaction to AOL for all 50, rather that sending 10K 50 times.

   
I see what you are saying. I'll write something to dig through my Exim 
logs and see what I can come up with.

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[Mailman-Users] Reporting

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]
Is there a way to generate a report that will tell me how many emails a 
list is sending out? I'm curious as to the traffic a few lists are doing 
and I need to see how much mail is being processed by the list.

So if the list has 400 members and it only has four emails a week sent 
to it, no big deal. But I want to see a list that has traffic on it like 
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level of activity.

So how can I tell how many messages were sent through list X?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]
Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:

   
 Is there a way to generate a report that will tell me how many emails a 
 list is sending out? I'm curious as to the traffic a few lists are doing 
 and I need to see how much mail is being processed by the list.
 


 See
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1123383group_id=103atid=300103.

   
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reporting

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Ray [Lists]
Steven Stern wrote:
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 Is there a way to generate a report that will tell me how many emails a 
 list is sending out? I'm curious as to the traffic a few lists are doing 
 and I need to see how much mail is being processed by the list.

 So if the list has 400 members and it only has four emails a week sent 
 to it, no big deal. But I want to see a list that has traffic on it like 
 this one or something in the lines of 100 emails per day because of the 
 level of activity.

 So how can I tell how many messages were sent through list X?
 

 Use mmdsr. It's in the contrib directory under your mailman install.  I
 run it from cron at 23:59 every night and get a daily report of list
 traffic.

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[Mailman-Users] Moderation Flag off but still needing to approve?

2007-04-30 Thread Jamie Lists
We started using mailman for announce only mailing list for our school
district. We have all the subscribers setup to be moderated so they
can't post to the list.

The school principals and school secretaries are subscribers as well
but have the moderation bit turned off.

For some reason when they post I still have to goto a web-page and
approve the request.

I listed them as moderators and also as admin yet I still have to goto
the web page and approve the request. Is there anyway around this?
(other than adding a password to the email header)

We just need a list where a specified list of people can post to send
news to our parents, without me having to intervene for every email
they want to send out.

I've google searched this, searched for announce only in the mailman
list archives and read the FAQ here
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation Flag off but still needing to approve?

2007-04-30 Thread Jamie Lists
I figured out the problem. Turns out my end users we're bcc ing the
messages and so it was getting hung up with a Message has implicit
destination error.

It's working now.

Thanks!
Jamie

On 4/30/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jamie Lists wrote:

 We started using mailman for announce only mailing list for our school
 district. We have all the subscribers setup to be moderated so they
 can't post to the list.
 
 The school principals and school secretaries are subscribers as well
 but have the moderation bit turned off.
 
 For some reason when they post I still have to goto a web-page and
 approve the request.


 And for what reason is the message held? The reason is available in the
 held message notice, the web admindb interface and Mailman's vette log.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-12 Thread chandler . lists
 Jay Chandler wrote:

When a user was unsubscribed (through the web interface), they continued
to receive emails.  And when additional users were subscribed, they
still haven't received any of the list traffic.


 Do your subs and unsubs require approval? Any admindb requests waiting.

Nope to both.
 If sub requires confirmation, did the new subs receive the confirmation
 email and respond?

 Is the unsub still in Membership management...-Membership list? Are the
 new subs there?

Yes.  It LOOKS correct within the web interface...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-12 Thread chandler . lists
 On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:52:54 -0800 Jay Chandler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is on FreeBSD / Postfix.  Anyone know what I might have forgotten
to do?  Everything else works correctly.

 Any chance you have two installations of mailman and the mail aliases are
 pointing to the old one?

Nope-- newish box that I've built myself.  This is the only Mailman install.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-12 Thread chandler . lists
  Mailman maintains a current version of its config file and a backup
 that is one generation older. It sounds to me like the current config
 is corrupt and it is falling back on the backup.

 This should show up in the logs, probably the error log or maybe qrunner.

 Something you can try is to run bin/dumpdb on the config.pck and
 config.pck.last files for that list to see if it throws an exception
 or reports a problem.


 Dragon

The problem is there are a pair of lists that are exhibiting this behavior
simultaneously.  I will try your suggestion, however, and report back.

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[Mailman-Users] retreving main list password

2006-06-12 Thread Ben Edwards (lists)
I have a server with mailman on it.  Is there a way of retrieving the
main list password?  

Ben


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[Mailman-Users] Migrating configuration

2006-06-07 Thread Ben Edwards (lists)
I have managed to move mail archives by copying the mailbox file and
using:

bin/arch --wipe new-list

and exporting/bulk subscribing users works fine.

However how do I move the configuration?


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[Mailman-Users] misgation advice

2006-06-05 Thread Ben Edwards (Lists)
We have a new server running plesk/mailman 2.1.5.  We need to move from
a old server with mailman 2.1.2.  What is the best way to do this, the
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[Mailman-Users] Keep getting empty bounces

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
I have setup some new lists on a new server and the lists seem to work 
fine, users get the mail, all is well.
However, after every post to the lists, I get loads of messages from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with the subject Uncaught bounce notification, and there is an 
attachment. However, the attachment, named ForwardedMessage.eml, is 
always blank, not even a subject, no headers, nothing. I have no idea 
what is causing this. Any suggestions?

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[Mailman-Users] File Maker Pro 6 + mailman

2005-05-13 Thread symbulos - ethical services (external mailing lists)
Dear friends,

we would need to integrate a mailing list managed with mailman, with an 
existing File Maker Pro 6 database of users.

Has anybody experience with this combination? Any help would be much 
appreciated.

You are dealing with real newbies here. :-)
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[Mailman-Users] Sender filters discard messages but can't forward to the list owner?

2005-03-10 Thread lists
MailMan Users list.
Here is what seems to be to be a limitation of MailMain, I am writing 
to this list to confirm the limitation as I understand it.

I want to have a moderated announce-only list where list members cannot 
post to the list. I have done this by making all of my users moderated. 
In Privacy options  Sender Filters, I can set members' messages to be 
Accepted, Held, Rejected, or Discarded.

What I want are the messages to be Discarded, but ALSO forwarded to the 
mailing list owner. It seems that this is impossible with MailMan, 
please confirm if this is your understanding as well.

I was trying to configure it this way because I wanted users to be able 
to hit 'Reply' and send an unsubscribe request and have their message 
be intercepted by the MailMan software (it says it can intercept 
message that look like admin requests), perform the necessary 
unsubscribe, OR if the message does not appear to be an admin request, 
forward it to the list owner.

If I set the Reply-To of the to be the list owner always (or an 
explicit address in General Options), then when a user hits 'reply' and 
types a command it goes to that list owner's email address, by passing 
the list altogether.

Please let me know if there is any way I can do what I am trying to do 
with Mail Man.  What I am concluding from this experience is the 
MailMan is basically programmed only to let you unsubscribe in two 
ways:

1) using the unsubscribe email address provided in the List Headers
2) using the URL provided in the user's General List Info page
It is not programmed to intercept messages and check them to see if 
they are requests and forward them if they are not. Is that conclusion 
correct?

Thanks for your help.
Jason FB
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman options

2005-03-05 Thread lists
I have a customer that is essentially asking me for a mailing list that 
is not the traditional mailman way of doing things.  I started out 
customizing Mailman in several ways according to their requests, 
however they are, I think, needing another system and I'm just not sure 
where to find such a creature.

They had a problem where their provider started spamming their list and 
had to change, thus this is where I come into the mix, and they simply 
want to send out their own newsletters intermittently and not allow 
members to chat with each other, but when they send messages that they 
go back to the administrator.  They also do not want users to have to 
worry about passwords and they want unsubscription will be as simple as 
clicking a link in the newsletter.

One final kicker is that they want reporting on if members addresses 
have become invalid (ie messages bounced to them).

Can mailman be customized to function after this manner (basically 
providing a super clean interface for subscribers with the above 
options) or should I be looking for another solution?  If I should be 
looking for another solution does anyone know of such an application?

Thanks much for any help!
-George
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[Mailman-Users] Large list import

2005-03-05 Thread lists
I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to 
mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an 
internal error.  Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading 
the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some 
sort of store that Mailman uses?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import

2005-03-05 Thread lists
Fortunately this person wants the list to be completely moderated so  
that there will not be back and forth traffice, just outbound.  Will  
this help matters and make it snappy enough?  Oh, I just read the rest  
of your message!  :)  It appears that it truly is handling things  
inefficiently in the list subscriber IO.  Wow, this is a real problem.   
What should I do?  Are there other solutions that are better than  
Mailman for this?  Not quite sure what you mean by the umbrella/sub  
list approach.

Thanks for the heads up!

On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Michael Loftis wrote:

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wrote:

I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need  
to
mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an
internal error.  Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading
the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some  
sort
of store that Mailman uses?
YEah there are CLI tools to do the additions but I dont' think you'll  
want to do this...

At ~15k subscribers on a list we have it's pudgy and slow, it'd be  
unusuable at 200k.  Mailman rewrites the entire config.pck/list config  
file for every add/remove/change on a list.  Very inefficient, very  
unscaleable.

I'm poking around at the code lately deciding if I'll tackle the job of  
fixing that or not...but until then you might want to do something with  
a sort of umbrella/sub list approach.

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[Mailman-Users] mailpasswds fails to run to completion

2005-01-05 Thread Rupa Schomaker (lists)
Debian version 2.1-5 + htdig patches.  (when I have time to apply the
htdig patches to the latest I'll do so -- would be nice if htdig patches
were integrated!)

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds, line 216, in ?
main()
  File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds, line 143, in main
password = mlist.getMemberPassword(member)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 102, in
getMemberPassword
raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Mailman-Users] Installation Error - ImportError: No module named korean

2004-09-03 Thread lists
Hi,

I am a new user trying to install Mailman for the first time and the 
'make install' routine is throwing up an error:

Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File bin/update, line 46, in ?
import paths
  File bin/paths.py, line 59, in ?
import korean
ImportError: No module named korean
make: *** [update] Error 1

Having looked at the archives this seems to be a previous problem, 
but should have been resolved?

Also from the archives I have noted that 
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/ is entirely empty.

My 'configure command is:
./configure --with-mail-gid=admin --with-cgi-gid=mailman
And this does not seem to throw up any errors.

I am installing the latest version - 2.1.5 - from the list.org 
website.

Python info:
Python 2.2.2 (#1, Mar 12 2004, 16:44:37)
[GCC 3.2.2 20030217 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2.2-2)] on linux2

I am installing onto a Virtual Server hosted by DSVR in the UK.

Can anyone help??

With thanks,

Sandy Matheson
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[Mailman-Users] Rejected RCPT - Sender Verfy Fail

2004-07-14 Thread lists
I am now receiving this error with any new list created - 
when an attempt to post or who or anything.  Does not 
happen with old lists.  Even tried copying one list to 
another - no difference.  See no answer in archives.  
Running v2.1.5 and was on 2.1.3.  Old lists created on 
that.
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[Mailman-Users] Changing List Name

2004-07-14 Thread lists
Since v2.1.5, the FAQ's are no longer correct in changing a list name.  The Realname 
cannot be changed - error occurs and tells you are not allowed to change ral name.  
Any idea how to do so now?

Cannot change/import setting through config_list either. Same error cannot change real 
name.




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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not delivering.

2001-02-19 Thread JTR Computers - Lists


Hi All,

we have just installed Mailman, and I'm pretty sure we followed instructions to the 
letter.

The admin and list info functions work fine via the Web Interface.

However the software doesn't deliver any mail to anyone.

Exerpt from logs.

SMTP log

Feb 19 19:09:02 2001 (16657) All recipients refused: host not found
Feb 19 19:09:02 2001 (16657) smtp for 5 recips, completed in 0.144 seconds

SMTP-FAILURE log

Feb 19 19:10:05 2001 (1) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Feb 19 19:10:05 2001 (1) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)

System is RH 6.2 running Sendmail which isn't reporting any errors in it's logs.

Some of the archives of this list seem to suggest it may be that we haven't setup the 
correct crontab entries, however crontab.in is listed for user mailman which I think 
is all we need.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Joseph



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[Mailman-Users] Fixed

2001-02-19 Thread JTR Computers - Lists



Re our last message.

Problem solved. Needed to configure localhost in the config 
file.

Joseph