Re: [MlMt] Remove from inbox but accessible

2021-10-25 Thread Fredrik Jonsson
Ron B 2021-10-26 7:14 wrote:

> I'd like to be able to access those emails whenever I want. I'm more likely 
> to need the ones that are six months and newer. Currently, all of these 
> emails are in my inbox. It would be convenient to have some way to remove 
> them from the inbox, maybe as soon as I tag them.
>
>  How do people normally handle this situation?

I suggest moving everything to "Archive".

You can set up both rules and custom keybindings to e.g. move en e-mail to 
archive and tag it.

When I open MailMate I start with pressing "i".

"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline", 
"selectFirstMessageRow:" );

I then use these four options to sort through all the mail.

"r" = "replyAll:";
"f" = "toggleFlag:";
"a" = "archive:";
"d" = "deleteMessage:";

After this my inbox is empty.

See 
https://xdeb.org/post/2014/05/16/mailmate-replaces-gyazmail-after-four-years/ 
for more on my workflow and custom keybindings.

Fredrik
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[MlMt] Remove from inbox but accessible

2021-10-25 Thread Ron B
I'm wondering what "best practice" or "convenient practice" is for emails that 
I want to be accessible but shoved out of the way.

I have tagged all emails relating to a club I'm in. This is currently the only 
tag I'm using. Mailmate is conveniently showing those email in its Tagged 
Smartfolder.

I'd like to be able to access those emails whenever I want. I'm more likely to 
need the ones that are six months and newer. Currently, all of these emails are 
in my inbox. It would be convenient to have some way to remove them from the 
inbox, maybe as soon as I tag them.

How do people normally handle this situation?
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Re: [MlMt] SubMailbox > Email Selection > Delete Issue

2021-10-25 Thread Michael Nietzold
I think you find it in conditions where you use "source mailbox" and then "not 
in" to exclude the Trash mailbox 

https://manual.mailmate-app.com/organize

Or here some messages from the mail archive:

https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2014-September/003155.html

https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2013-April/000685.html

Here with screenshot. I guess there is also a "not in":
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/42772/how-to-exclude-mailboxes-within-a-smart-mailbox

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> Am 25.10.2021 um 12:57 schrieb Jo Sidarta :
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your reply!
> 
> That make sense!
> When I deleted the email the second time, the email font became red; which 
> probably indicated it’ll be removed from the trash folder.
> 
> I didn’t create a new smart mailbox, what I did is selected the source 
> mailbox and edit the settings (thus there was no option to exclude the trash 
> folder): https://imgur.com/aSvwR1s
> But your suggestion gave me the idea to use a smart mailbox instead.
> 
> Where can I find this ‘folder name’? as I could not find that option: 
> https://imgur.com/WspbfKa
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jo
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2021, at 20:25, Michael Nietzold wrote:
>> 
>> I guess you have also included the Trash folder in you smartmailbox
>> 
>> So the first delete it moves to Trash
>> 
>> The second delete it removes from Trash
>> 
>> 
>> (Try to include the folder name in to the visible columns to check where the 
>> eMail is located)
>> 
>> Solutions:
>> 
>> a) change the source for the smartmailbox to INBOX
>> b) exclude your TRASH folder (or simar name depending on your folders) in 
>> the smartmailbox settings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
>> 
 Am 23.10.2021 um 21:52 schrieb Jo Sidarta :
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I am trialing MailMate and have started to use the ‘submailboxes’ feature 
>>> (to allow me seeing the inbound emails based on “From > Name”).
>>> 
>>> I noticed I need to press ‘Delete’ twice, before I am able to delete emails 
>>> I selected in the ‘submailbox filter’.
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Jo
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Re: [MlMt] SubMailbox > Email Selection > Delete Issue

2021-10-25 Thread Michael Nietzold
a) I remember there is somewhere in conditions that you can exclude a folder. 
I am not at my macbook now so you have to.search for the exclude

b) you need to show the column "source mailbox"


Note: in MailMate it is used this technical terms instead of the common used 
terms:

Technical => common names
"mailbox" => folder
"Account" => Mail Account / Mailbox

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Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
> Am 25.10.2021 um 12:57 schrieb Jo Sidarta :
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your reply!
> 
> That make sense!
> When I deleted the email the second time, the email font became red; which 
> probably indicated it’ll be removed from the trash folder.
> 
> I didn’t create a new smart mailbox, what I did is selected the source 
> mailbox and edit the settings (thus there was no option to exclude the trash 
> folder): https://imgur.com/aSvwR1s
> But your suggestion gave me the idea to use a smart mailbox instead.
> 
> Where can I find this ‘folder name’? as I could not find that option: 
> https://imgur.com/WspbfKa
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jo
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2021, at 20:25, Michael Nietzold wrote:
>> I guess you have also included the Trash folder in you smartmailbox
>> So the first delete it moves to Trash
>> The second delete it removes from Trash
>> (Try to include the folder name in to the visible columns to check where the 
>> eMail is located)
>> Solutions:
>> a) change the source for the smartmailbox to INBOX
>> b) exclude your TRASH folder (or simar name depending on your folders) in 
>> the smartmailbox settings.
>> Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
 Am 23.10.2021 um 21:52 schrieb Jo Sidarta :
>>> Hi All,
>>> I am trialing MailMate and have started to use the ‘submailboxes’ feature 
>>> (to allow me seeing the inbound emails based on “From > Name”).
>>> I noticed I need to press ‘Delete’ twice, before I am able to delete emails 
>>> I selected in the ‘submailbox filter’.
>>> Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
>>> Regards,
>>> Jo
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[MlMt] News regarding RunBox/Fastmail/Posteo and DDoS attacks

2021-10-25 Thread Jenna Jonteaux via mailmate
Information that should be shared:
From Jenna Jonteaux-McClay, A Runbox and Posteo user and Mailmate of course!

On Friday evening Runbox, along with at least two other email services, started 
experiencing Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks by extortionists who 
are demanding that we pay them a ransom to prevent further attacks.

The attacks consisted of a massive volume of data traffic against our services 
that overwhelmed our servers and intermittently blocked our customers from 
accessing their email.

This message contains important information about these attacks, what Runbox is 
doing to mitigate the situation, and what you as our customer can do if you 
experience any disruptions.

For our most recent updates regarding this incident, please see our Service 
Status page at http://status.runbox.com.

How might this attack affect me?

The extortion letter we have received from the attackers included threats about 
more severe DDoS attacks on Monday if Runbox does not pay the ransom.

Paying criminals money that you as a customer have originally paid us for the 
services we provide is unacceptable, and would only fund further attacks in the 
future.

If Runbox is subject to another DDoS attack you may experience problems 
connecting to our website and email services, and there
might be delays delivering incoming and outgoing email. Our web hosting 
services may also become inaccessible.

The attacks will not affect any of the data stored on the Runbox servers. Your 
email is securely stored and is safe from these types of
attacks.

You can find more information about the nature of DDoS attacks further down in 
this message.

What is Runbox doing about this?

Since the attacks started we have worked around the clock with our system 
administrators and Internet Service Provider to mitigate them, and are 
implementing additional measures in preparation for possible further attacks on 
Monday.

Although we cannot reveal details of these measures at this time we can assure 
you that we are doing everything in our power to ensure that our services 
remain accessible to all our customers. The measures we are deploying will also 
strengthen our defenses in the event of future attacks by other groups.

We should be clear that DDoS attacks are a criminal act, and that demanding a 
ransom to prevent them is extortion. Runbox has persevered against similar DDoS 
attacks in the past and never in our history paid criminals who attack our 
services. And we are not going to start now.

In fact, anyone who does comply with such blackmailing to prevent DDoS attacks 
helps create a market for these criminal groups.

Instead we will report this incident to The Norwegian National Authority for 
Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime, and will 
cooperate with the Norwegian Computer Emergency Response Team (NorCERT) to 
mitigate against further attacks.

We have also learned that Runbox is not alone in being attacked, as The Record 
reports that Fastmail and Posteo are also under attack by the same 
extortionists: 
https://therecord.media/ddos-attacks-hit-multiple-email-providers/

We are now coordinating our fight against these criminals and will cooperate 
with relevant law enforcement in our respective countries.

Why not just pay the ransom?

Paying extortionists would provide no guarantee that further attacks will be 
prevented, and could instead make the victim more attractive for similar 
attacks.

Furthermore, funding such criminal activities would only increase the 
likelihood of further attacks by the same criminals or other malefactors.

Anyone who is experiencing DDoS attacks is encouraged to never capitulate, as 
it only makes the market for these criminal activities grow stronger.

What can I do?

Runbox, together with our partners, will do everything we can to continue 
fighting these attacks, and our goal is to prevent any further disruptions to 
our services.

If you experience disruptions in our services, please try again in a short 
while. If our webmail doesn't respond you may also set up an email client which 
may respond in the meantime, as described here: https://help.runbox.com/imap/

Do not be concerned that there are any technical issues with the Runbox servers 
themselves. Once you are able to access our services again, any queued email 
will be delivered to your account and no data will be lost.

You can at any time access our Service Status page at http://status.runbox.com 
and find our updates regarding this incident. You may also inform any 
sub-accounts by forwarding this message to them.

We refuse to give criminals the power to decide which Internet services you 
use, and we ask that you continue supporting Runbox and other independent 
services who refuse to be defeated by extortionists.

What is a DDoS Attack?

A DDoS attack prevents users from accessing a service by using a large number 
of computers to send a very large amount of requests to the targ

[MlMt] Disable combined view of selected emails

2021-10-25 Thread Jo Sidarta

Hi all,

It’s good that MailMate has the ability to show a combined view of 
multiple selected emails; but it slows down when I need to do the 
selection for deletion purposes.


Is there a way to disable / limit this feature? let’s say, only show 
the combined view, when the number of selected emails are less than 5 
emails.


Regards,

Jo
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Re: [MlMt] SubMailbox > Email Selection > Delete Issue

2021-10-25 Thread Jo Sidarta

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your reply!

That make sense!
When I deleted the email the second time, the email font became red; 
which probably indicated it’ll be removed from the trash folder.


I didn’t create a new smart mailbox, what I did is selected the source 
mailbox and edit the settings (thus there was no option to exclude the 
trash folder): https://imgur.com/aSvwR1s

But your suggestion gave me the idea to use a smart mailbox instead.

Where can I find this ‘folder name’? as I could not find that 
option: https://imgur.com/WspbfKa


Regards,

Jo

On 25 Oct 2021, at 20:25, Michael Nietzold wrote:


I guess you have also included the Trash folder in you smartmailbox

So the first delete it moves to Trash

The second delete it removes from Trash


(Try to include the folder name in to the visible columns to check 
where the eMail is located)


Solutions:

a) change the source for the smartmailbox to INBOX
b) exclude your TRASH folder (or simar name depending on your folders) 
in the smartmailbox settings.




Von meinem iDingens gesendet...


Am 23.10.2021 um 21:52 schrieb Jo Sidarta :

Hi All,

I am trialing MailMate and have started to use the ‘submailboxes’ 
feature (to allow me seeing the inbound emails based on “From > 
Name”).


I noticed I need to press ‘Delete’ twice, before I am able to 
delete emails I selected in the ‘submailbox filter’.


Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?

Regards,

Jo
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Re: [MlMt] SubMailbox > Email Selection > Delete Issue

2021-10-25 Thread Michael Nietzold
I guess you have also included the Trash folder in you smartmailbox 

So the first delete it moves to Trash

The second delete it removes from Trash


(Try to include the folder name in to the visible columns to check where the 
eMail is located)

Solutions:

a) change the source for the smartmailbox to INBOX
b) exclude your TRASH folder (or simar name depending on your folders) in the 
smartmailbox settings. 



Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

> Am 23.10.2021 um 21:52 schrieb Jo Sidarta :
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am trialing MailMate and have started to use the ‘submailboxes’ feature (to 
> allow me seeing the inbound emails based on “From > Name”).
> 
> I noticed I need to press ‘Delete’ twice, before I am able to delete emails I 
> selected in the ‘submailbox filter’.
> 
> Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jo
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