Re: [MlMt] Message in GMail web interface not appearing in mailmate
On 11 Aug 2022, at 20:04, Eric Sharakan wrote: >> I believe Mailmate assigns that label. My guess is that I archived those >> emails myself in the Gmail mobile app, which put them somewhere Mailmate >> can’t access (perhaps Gmail’s mysterious-to-me “All Mail”). > > Hmm, I doubt MM would have done assigned that (or any) label. I've been > using MM with gmail for years, and I don't have any "Archive" label. > > I suspect your issue has more to do with the subscription settings you're > having trouble loading. My guess was just that it moves messages to the “Archive” folder, which Gmail interprets as the “[Gmail]/Archive]” label. But I don’t really know. > I suspect your problem is related to this inability to load or control your > gmail subscriptions. Some general things to try: > > - Wait longer for the subscription list to load. Walk away for 1/2 hour or > so and come back and check. > - Check your "IMAP access" settings in the gmail web interface. Make sure > IMAP access is enabled. Sounds silly, but who knows? > - Completely remove and re-add your gmail account in MM. > > I suspect that once you get the subscription list to load, you'll be able to > control exactly what MM shows. FWIW, I subscribe to all the mailboxes > listed, except the "[Gmail]/All Mail" one. Thanks for the suggestions: this time around it did load. I added the “All Mail” “Important” and “Starred” subscriptions, which got the missing messages in, but then added some messages in duplicate (Starred) and triplicate (Starred and Important). So I removed the gmail source, and added it back. Same initial problem. This time I just subscribed to “All Mail” and now it all looks good. Thank you, Henry and Eric, for making my first post such a friendly and helpful experience! Regards, Dibson T Hoffweiler ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Message in GMail web interface not appearing in mailmate
On 11 Aug 2022, at 22:26, Dibson T Hoffweiler wrote: Hi Henry, thanks for the response. My response inline below. On 11 Aug 2022, at 18:06, Henry Seiden wrote: If you say you found the item in Gmail, then where was it, in a mailbox other than standard ones, perhaps? Could it simply be in a place that’s not (allowed to be) accessible to MM? You haven’t given me much to go on. Great question. Emails in Gmail (web interface) with the label “[Gmail]/Archive” also appear in Mailmate. Emails without the label don’t appear in Mailmate. I believe Mailmate assigns that label. My guess is that I archived those emails myself in the Gmail mobile app, which put them somewhere Mailmate can’t access (perhaps Gmail’s mysterious-to-me “All Mail”). Hmm, I doubt MM would have done assigned that (or any) label. I've been using MM with gmail for years, and I don't have any "Archive" label. I suspect your issue has more to do with the subscription settings you're having trouble loading. Did you look in IMAP Preferences settings or Edit Subscriptions (File>Edit IMAP Settings>Edit Subscriptions), any of those unchecked mailboxes? When I open it, I see the ‘Subscriptions for “[myemail]@gmail.com”’ dialogue, but the list never populates - the loading spinner doesn’t stop, even after several minutes. The dialogue does load for this (non-Gmail) email account. Can other’s load the subscriptions for their Gmail accounts? Yes, and it takes only a second or two for mine to load. I do have the "ignore server subscription state for private namespaces" option selected in the subscription pane. I suspect your problem is related to this inability to load or control your gmail subscriptions. Some general things to try: - Wait longer for the subscription list to load. Walk away for 1/2 hour or so and come back and check. - Check your "IMAP access" settings in the gmail web interface. Make sure IMAP access is enabled. Sounds silly, but who knows? - Completely remove and re-add your gmail account in MM. I suspect that once you get the subscription list to load, you'll be able to control exactly what MM shows. FWIW, I subscribe to all the mailboxes listed, except the "[Gmail]/All Mail" one. Can’t say that I’ve had that issue with Gmail accounts and I do have a couple. So that’s what to check first. Working backward from where it is, surely you find it… It’s always the last place you look;)) Not trying to be flip, but I have seen this before in problem solving. This was very helpful. My workaround for the time being will be to not archive messages outside of Mailmate. If anyone has insight into the folder subscriptions not loading, or other solutions for this, I’d appreciate it. I’m tech savvy but the nuance of IMAP has always been a little unwieldy for me. I can relate! There's IMAP, and there's gmail's version of IMAP, which has its own level of "nuance". Mapping gmail's labels to IMAP mailboxes is just not a perfect fit. Good luck! -Eric Regards, Dibson ps: I first had this issues with version - 1.13.2r5673. I’ve now upgraded to 1.14 (5908). ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Message in GMail web interface not appearing in mailmate
Hi Henry, thanks for the response. My response inline below. On 11 Aug 2022, at 18:06, Henry Seiden wrote: > If you say you found the item in Gmail, then where was it, in a mailbox other > than standard ones, perhaps? Could it simply be in a place that’s not > (allowed to be) accessible to MM? You haven’t given me much to go on. Great question. Emails in Gmail (web interface) with the label “[Gmail]/Archive” also appear in Mailmate. Emails without the label don’t appear in Mailmate. I believe Mailmate assigns that label. My guess is that I archived those emails myself in the Gmail mobile app, which put them somewhere Mailmate can’t access (perhaps Gmail’s mysterious-to-me “All Mail”). > Did you look in IMAP Preferences settings or Edit Subscriptions (File>Edit > IMAP Settings>Edit Subscriptions), any of those unchecked mailboxes? When I open it, I see the ‘Subscriptions for “[myemail]@gmail.com”’ dialogue, but the list never populates - the loading spinner doesn’t stop, even after several minutes. The dialogue does load for this (non-Gmail) email account. Can other’s load the subscriptions for their Gmail accounts? > Can’t say that I’ve had that issue with Gmail accounts and I do have a > couple. So that’s what to check first. Working backward from where it is, > surely you find it… It’s always the last place you look;)) Not trying to be > flip, but I have seen this before in problem solving. This was very helpful. My workaround for the time being will be to not archive messages outside of Mailmate. If anyone has insight into the folder subscriptions not loading, or other solutions for this, I’d appreciate it. I’m tech savvy but the nuance of IMAP has always been a little unwieldy for me. Regards, Dibson ps: I first had this issues with version - 1.13.2r5673. I’ve now upgraded to 1.14 (5908). ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Message in GMail web interface not appearing in mailmate
Hi Dibson, If you say you found the item in Gmail, then where was it, in a mailbox other than standard ones, perhaps? Could it simply be in a place that’s not (allowed to be) accessible to MM? You haven’t given me much to go on. Did you look in IMAP Preferences settings or Edit Subscriptions (File>Edit IMAP Settings>Edit Subscriptions), any of those unchecked mailboxes? Can’t say that I’ve had that issue with Gmail accounts and I do have a couple. So that’s what to check first. Working backward from where it is, surely you find it… It’s always the last place you look;)) Not trying to be flip, but I have seen this before in problem solving. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 11 Aug 2022, at 20:49, Dibson T Hoffweiler wrote: Hi everyone! I’m new to the list. I’ve been using mailmate a few years, and only recently started using more features. It’s been amazingly helpful for managing my email. Thank you, Benny, for such a fantastic piece of software. I recently searched for a message from someone and it wasn’t coming up. I assumed I had bad search terms, or maybe that I misremembered it’s existence. I found the email on the GMail web app, and then tried searching again - still couldn’t find it. I then went into the sources view, which I assume has all email from the gmail account, and sure enough the email isn’t there. It’s a short thread: 2 messages from someone else, 1 from myself. I can see my sent message, but not the two from my correspondent. Anyone have any insight into this? Or how to solve or further diagnose the matter? I had this issue on a prior version - 1.13.2r5673 - and I just now upgraded to Version 1.14 (5908), and I still can’t find it. Thank you! -Dibson T ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Message in GMail web interface not appearing in mailmate
Hi everyone! I’m new to the list. I’ve been using mailmate a few years, and only recently started using more features. It’s been amazingly helpful for managing my email. Thank you, Benny, for such a fantastic piece of software. I recently searched for a message from someone and it wasn’t coming up. I assumed I had bad search terms, or maybe that I misremembered it’s existence. I found the email on the GMail web app, and then tried searching again - still couldn’t find it. I then went into the sources view, which I assume has all email from the gmail account, and sure enough the email isn’t there. It’s a short thread: 2 messages from someone else, 1 from myself. I can see my sent message, but not the two from my correspondent. Anyone have any insight into this? Or how to solve or further diagnose the matter? I had this issue on a prior version - 1.13.2r5673 - and I just now upgraded to Version 1.14 (5908), and I still can’t find it. Thank you! -Dibson T ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Link for viewing attachments
I recently upgraded to Monterey which necessitated a MM update to v5895. In the new MM version, I see that attachments are no longer represented as links within messages. I loved this feature so a couple questions here: * Can this older behavior be enabled somehow? * If not, is this gone forever?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Mail alert sound issue - v5895 on Monterey
Hello all… Is anyone having an issue with the EM arrival alert sound not playing properly with v5895 on Monterey? I initially thought this was system wide problem but my sound alerts work fine elsewhere so I think this is a MM issue… ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion [r5908?]
Hi Benny, Thanks for comments. I take it you mean have a look at r5908 as that’s the latest Test Build? Looks like 5908 specifically initially addresses the issue about multiple Emails in contacts which I’m pretty sure we’ve all experienced in one form or another. It looks like the Bundles preferences you mention is specific for Busy Calendar Bundles. It may be that we’re confusing Groups, Bundles and (now in Busy Contacts) Tags. Tags in Busy Contacts migrates Groups in Apple’s Contacts as well as for standalone purposes. Please explain your views on the three and how you intend it to work, specifically in MailMate. I’m not understanding if you mean we should immediately implement the command using Terminal, connecting Busy Contacts’ data as you specify: *“defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAddressBook -string com.busymac.busycontacts”* Once I understanding your intentions, will decide what to do. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 11 Aug 2022, at 11:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 29 Jul 2022, at 19:56, Harvey Leff wrote: I agree with Henry, who wrote "we can ask Benny to fix Contacts flaws. Maybe we can ask for an interface to \[Busy Contacts\](www.busymac.com)". A Mailmate-Busy Contacts linkage would be wonderful. I haven't read the all of this thread, but MailMate does have support for Busy Contacts using bundles (see the Bundles preferences pane). There's also some support (which I think still works) to make View/Add work directly with Busy Contacts: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAddressBook -string com.busymac.busycontacts With respect to recent issues with groups in Contacts, I'd appreciate feedback if there are any issues with the latest test release (just write me directly off list). The previous issues were about missing/duplicate contacts when expanding groups. The latest test release adds support for changing the email address of a recipient found in Contacts if it has multiple email addresses. This is in the context sensitive menu of each recipient. This new feature might also mean new bugs ;-) The latest test release should be able to handle duplicate group names (in different accounts). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion
On 11 Aug 2022, at 10:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > The latest test release adds support for changing the email address of a > recipient found in Contacts if it has multiple email addresses. This is in > the context sensitive menu of each recipient. This new feature might also > mean new bugs ;-) Thank you so much for adding this! It's been a nuisance to me to have to do this by hand. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion
On 29 Jul 2022, at 19:56, Harvey Leff wrote: I agree with Henry, who wrote "we can ask Benny to fix Contacts flaws. Maybe we can ask for an interface to \[Busy Contacts\](www.busymac.com)". A Mailmate-Busy Contacts linkage would be wonderful. I haven't read the all of this thread, but MailMate does have support for Busy Contacts using bundles (see the Bundles preferences pane). There's also some support (which I think still works) to make View/Add work directly with Busy Contacts: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAddressBook -string com.busymac.busycontacts With respect to recent issues with groups in Contacts, I'd appreciate feedback if there are any issues with the latest test release (just write me directly off list). The previous issues were about missing/duplicate contacts when expanding groups. The latest test release adds support for changing the email address of a recipient found in Contacts if it has multiple email addresses. This is in the context sensitive menu of each recipient. This new feature might also mean new bugs ;-) The latest test release should be able to handle duplicate group names (in different accounts). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
