Re: [MlMt] custom keybindings suddenly stopped working [SOLVED]

[Ted Byfield]

I don't understand this, but... I hadn't touched < ~/Library/Application 
Support/Mailmate/Resources/Special.plist > in months, but when the 
custom keybindings broke I took the occasion to update that file — and 
introduced a typo (a missing quotation mark in one line). So I don't see 
how that could be the cause, but fixing that typo along with the usual 
diddling — dis/enabling the keybindings option, restarting a few 
times, etc — seems to have fixed it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Cheers,
Ted

On 11 Nov 2019, at 10:55, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Hi Ted, my custom keybindings files are in ~/Library/Application 
Support/Mailmate/Resources/KeyBindings/.


Could that be it?

-Eric

On 11 Nov 2019, at 1:00, Ted Byfield wrote:


Hi, all —

The custom keybindings I've been using for years to manage email 
stopped working, and I'm not sure why.


They're given in < ~/Library/Application 
Support/Mailmate/Resources/Special.plist >, in the correct format 
(which has been working for years — sample below), and Preferences 
> General  > "Custom Key Bindings" is enabled and the text field 
reads "Gmail, Special" (without the quotes).


SAMPLE
- - - - - - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - - - - - -

{
"^a" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "/mailboxname" );  
}

- - - - - - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - - - - - -

I don't think I changed anything that would have caused this. This is 
Mailmate 1.13 [5655], running on MacOS 10.14.6 [18G103].


Any suggestions appreciated.

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Re: [MlMt] custom keybindings suddenly stopped working

[Ted Byfield]

Whoops! My x>decades-old way of grabbing paths just broke recently, so I 
typed that by hand and left one level out — mine is in < 
~/Library/Application Support/Mailmate/Resources/KeyBindings/ > as well.


But thank you for your quick response! 

Best,
Ted

On 11 Nov 2019, at 10:55, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Hi Ted, my custom keybindings files are in ~/Library/Application 
Support/Mailmate/Resources/KeyBindings/.


Could that be it?

-Eric

On 11 Nov 2019, at 1:00, Ted Byfield wrote:


Hi, all —

The custom keybindings I've been using for years to manage email 
stopped working, and I'm not sure why.


They're given in < ~/Library/Application 
Support/Mailmate/Resources/Special.plist >, in the correct format 
(which has been working for years — sample below), and Preferences 
> General  > "Custom Key Bindings" is enabled and the text field 
reads "Gmail, Special" (without the quotes).


SAMPLE
- - - - - - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - - - - - -

{
"^a" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "/mailboxname" );  
}

- - - - - - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - - - - - -

I don't think I changed anything that would have caused this. This is 
Mailmate 1.13 [5655], running on MacOS 10.14.6 [18G103].


Any suggestions appreciated.

Cheers,
Ted

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[MlMt] custom keybindings suddenly stopped working

[Ted Byfield]

Hi, all —

The custom keybindings I've been using for years to manage email stopped 
working, and I'm not sure why.


They're given in < ~/Library/Application 
Support/Mailmate/Resources/Special.plist >, in the correct format (which 
has been working for years — sample below), and Preferences > General 
> "Custom Key Bindings" is enabled and the text field reads "Gmail, 
Special" (without the quotes).


SAMPLE
- - - - - - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - - - - - -

{
"^a" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "/mailboxname" );  
}

- - - - - - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - - - - - -

I don't think I changed anything that would have caused this. This is 
Mailmate 1.13 [5655], running on MacOS 10.14.6 [18G103].


Any suggestions appreciated.

Cheers,
Ted
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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

[Ted Byfield]

That seems like an excellent approach from a user perspective (or at 
least this one's).


Cheers,
T

On 12 Jan 2017, at 11:59, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 12 Jan 2017, at 11:50, Mike Petonic wrote:

Perhaps we could use Github's Wiki feature of the 
https://github.com/mailmate/ site.  It doesn't appear that it's 
enabled, or rather, it is enabled but it just redirects us to the 
markdown manual (https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual) again.


We could agree to limit the scope to a best-practices wiki, and thus 
wouldn't have a lot of scope creep.


Not a bad idea, but what’s the objection to putting such a section 
into the manual on github?

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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

[Ted Byfield]

It could be, but I assume that Benny has his hands full (and would like 
time off). Resources like that can involve multiple layers of work 
(writing, updating with releases, etc); and sometimes they're best done 
by users — for example, as a subreddit.


Cheers,
T

On 11 Jan 2017, at 21:25, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 11 Jan 2017, at 11:28, Ted Byfield wrote:

A Mailmate tips/tricks resource would very useful to fill the gap 
between the manual (which should be very minimal) and this ~support 
list (which is great but a noisy way to build practical knowledge).


This isn't intended as a criticism of MM at all — on the contrary, 
I'm just thinking about a resource that could help it to grow.


Why can’t the manual have this as part of it?

(BTW, I’ve got a months-old PR on the manual: 
https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual .)

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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

[Ted Byfield]

This thread is really helpful, in part because it crystalized an odd 
feeling I often get when using Mailmate — that *there's a better way* 
or *I'm doing it wrong*.


A Mailmate tips/tricks resource would very useful to fill the gap 
between the manual (which should be very minimal) and this ~support list 
(which is great but a noisy way to build practical knowledge).


This isn't intended as a criticism of MM at all — on the contrary, I'm 
just thinking about a resource that could help it to grow.


Cheers,
T

On 10 Jan 2017, at 19:41, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:

a) I didn’t know that shift double-click would open the msg in a new 
window (for me)
b) I usually just hit as return to open the selected msg in a new 
window
c) I didn’t realize that the column I double-clicked on determined 
the filter for the search

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Re: [MlMt] sound notifications in Sierra

[Ted Byfield]

Ah, yes, forgot to mention that as well. I had the same problem with 
Sierra turning on UI sound effects, and I quickly turned them off. Not 
sure why, but I had also set the volume slide for "blow" to zero (and 
that one keeps going in Mailmate), whereas I hadn't done that to "glass" 
(which had stopped after some fiddling around).


Three separate UIs for turning off sound notifications, bleh -- feels 
like Windows back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.


But thank you for the tip -- it feels like a hack, but it worked. 

Cheers,
T

On 22 Sep 2016, at 12:05, Paul Sture wrote:

FWIW I was running with all alert sounds switched off in System 
Preferences, and the upgrade to Sierra switched them back on.


To restore my pre-upgrade settings, System Preferences -> Sound -> 
Sound Effects, then


* move the Alert volume slider completely to the left
* uncheck "Play user interface sound effects"

On 22 Sep 2016, at 17:27, Ted Byfield wrote:

With the update to "macOS"  Sierra, Mailmate (v 1.9.5 - 5263 and 
then 5268) has started giving sound notifications -- first "glass" 
and then "blow," I think. I've turned them off in two places:


	* System Prefs > Notifications > Mailmate (alert style - none, and 
all checkboxes unchecked), and
	* Mailmate prefs > Counters > Sound pulldown -- x4, one for each 
corner, all are set to "none"


(In passing, that counter UI might be for confusing for users who are 
new and/or less willing/able to put the time in -- but I digress.)


I've also restarted Mailmate, rebooted, etc but my preference don't 
seem to stick completely -- "glass" (or whatever) has gone away but 
"blow" remains," even for messages that are set to mark as "read when 
I filter them.


Any suggestions about how to make it stop would be warmly welcome. 
Thanks!


Cheers,
T
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[MlMt] sound notifications in Sierra

[Ted Byfield]

With the update to "macOS"  Sierra, Mailmate (v 1.9.5 - 5263 and 
then 5268) has started giving sound notifications -- first "glass" and 
then "blow," I think. I've turned them off in two places:


	* System Prefs > Notifications > Mailmate (alert style - none, and all 
checkboxes unchecked), and
	* Mailmate prefs > Counters > Sound pulldown -- x4, one for each 
corner, all are set to "none"


(In passing, that counter UI might be for confusing for users who are 
new and/or less willing/able to put the time in -- but I digress.)


I've also restarted Mailmate, rebooted, etc but my preference don't seem 
to stick completely -- "glass" (or whatever) has gone away but "blow" 
remains," even for messages that are set to mark as "read when I filter 
them.


Any suggestions about how to make it stop would be warmly welcome. 
Thanks!


Cheers,
T
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Re: [MlMt] Devonthink

[Ted Byfield]

It's great. In principle I prefer the most minimal approach possible — 
.txt files, file system, open standards, etc — but in practice I've 
found that the search tools in Devonthink, as they say, make a 
difference that makes a difference. In particular, the ability to easily 
slurp down resources from the web with a one-click extension/add-on is 
very useful. I've been using it for many years (close to ten?!) and have 
*never* had any problems with reliability or compatibility, which is 
really impressive. In that time, the devs have struck me as very 
generous in their approach to paid upgrades. DEVONagent is also 
remarkable, although I've never fully adjusted to a special-purpose 
browser for research.


One downside is that it's a bit expensive by current standards. If 
you're thinking about buying it, it's worth considering a Tibits 
membership, which — aside from supporting a pillar of the Mac indy 
software community — includes a big discount on Devon's software, 
among with many others:


https://tidbits.com/member_benefits.html

As for Devonthink vs Evernote, I couldn't say, YMMV, and this isn't the 
place.


My apologies if these seem like inappropriate commercial plugs. Maybe 
it'll be more on-topic if I say the Devon devs are on par with Benny? 



Cheers,
T


On 25 Aug 2016, at 10:38, Howard Wettstein wrote:

I’m intrigued by comments about Devonthink. Could someone give me a 
brief description of the program and how it works? I don’t mean a 
technical account, just a short message about how to use it, what it 
does, etc. Or a link to where I can find such a descriptions. I’ver 
used Evernote for years, love it, and it seems there is overlap.

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[MlMt] frequent crashes and freezes, + earlier keyboard lag

[Ted Byfield]

Hi --

I've been seeing a rising tide of unexpected quits and freezes (as in, 
spinning rainbow pizzas of death). The first sign of this was unexpected 
quits that happened when I tried to edit replies in GPG-encrypted 
conversations, but since then the problems have become much more common 
-- roughly 1 out of 3 times I interact with Mailmate at all, including 
something as simple as pulling clicking on a menubar counter.


From time immemorial the generic advice for fixing this kind of problem 
for any app(lication) was: reinstall it! But I use Mailmate to check 
several accounts, so I'd really like to keep the amount of work involved 
to a bare minimum. Is there a clear set of steps I should follow to try 
to solve this problem?


One possible clue: for a long time before these crashes/freezes started 
happening, I was seeing keyboard lag problems -- sometimes a periodic 
lag of a second or two while I'm typing a message.


Thanks!
T
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