from:"Charles\-H. Schulz"


Hello everyone,

I went to check the list of tips yesterday and I saw that many more had 
been added - I don't know who (I can't know it) - by about 3 to 4 people 
so I just wanted to say thank you to the people who joined the effort 
and chipped in a few tips! Of course it's kind of a continuous effort, 
so feel free to add even more to it.


Thanks,

Charles.




Le 2014-05-01 10:49, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)
There is no list or form.  It's just a document.

You see words on the web-page?  Some in different colours, some with
different colour backgrounds?  That is the document!!  Weird isn't it!  
You

can write straight into that page!!
Regards from
Tom :)



On 1 May 2014 04:43, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:


   Thank you for responding.

   Since I still don't see any list and/or form,
   well, I guess I'm either 'blind in 1 eye  can't see out of 
the

other' or this URL too goes elsewhere  ;-)

   Congratulations to this URL's site's sponsors -
it looks very nice and does not kick up the A-V programs  
:-)




From: Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Tips of the week -help needed
To: us...@global.libreoffice.org


Hi,

Le 30/04/2014 16:12, anne-ology a écrit :

Curiously wondering what this site is -
 I clicked on this URL -
 after a long moment, and allowing java,
   a page scrolled up, filled with colorful lines of what
 appears to be some chat-room  [huh?]

I expected to see a list of tips and/or a form to add some tips
 [???]
I was planning to add the tips which I've been mentioning on
 this list;
   but I don't do chat-rooms, etc.

please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etherpad, it's only a
collaborative editing tool that we own.

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Libre Office Marketing activities in India


Dear Chandrakant,

Welcome to the LibreOffice project! I have seen your earlier posts on 
the L10N mailing list and it's great to see that more localizations can 
be created. On top of that C-DAC has been a long standing contributor to 
the old Openoffice.org project :-)


It is a bit unclear to me whether there are active teams promoting 
LibreOffice around India though. We have various contacts with public 
institutions there however. Given the scope of your involvement, I guess 
you have a team working with you on LibreOffice localizations and 
marketing?


Best,

Charles.


Le 2014-05-02 12:56, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

Hello All.

My name is Chandrakant Dhutadmal. I am from Pune, India. Currently i
am working as senior technical officer, at Centre for Development of
advanced computing (C-DAC), Pune.

I have been working in Localization domain since about last 8 years. I
had earlier used Open Office and conducted training and spread
awareness about open office among lot of people from various sectors
like Academics, Govt, NGO's, and SME's. I have also been attending
various meeting and conferences to spread the word.

I have also been using Libre Office since quite some time now. I think
i can be a good contributor as a Member of Marketing team and take
this product to newer heights of success.

I would also like to know if there is any marketing group active in
India who promotes Libre Office in India and let me know how can i
participate.


Cheers,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal
Senior Technical Officer
C-DAC, Pune, India.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Libre Office Marketing activities in India

Thank you for your answer. May I suggest you familiarize yourself with 
the localization processes first? Such an effort can be demanding even 
for one language only; alternatively, promoting LibreOffice in India 
itself is also quite a chunk of work. Let us know what you need or what 
tasks you would like to work on .


Thank you,

Charles.


Le 2014-05-02 14:43, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

Hi Charles.

Thanks for welcoming me in the community.

Yes. C-DAC is one of the organization which has been into Localization
and its marketing since quite some time now.

I have personally  been active in some other open source communities
and i have noticed that there are no Libre Office promotional
activities being carried out as a community. 

I personally would like to contribute in this community driven
promotional activity in a better way. 

Regards,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal
Pune, India.
 






On Friday, May 2, 2014 5:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

Dear Chandrakant,

Welcome to the LibreOffice project! I have seen your earlier posts on
the L10N mailing list and it's great to see that more localizations can
be created. On top of that C-DAC has been a long standing contributor 
to

the old Openoffice.org project :-)

It is a bit unclear to me whether there are active teams promoting
LibreOffice around India though. We have various contacts with public
institutions there however. Given the scope of your involvement, I 
guess

you have a team working with you on LibreOffice localizations and
marketing?

Best,

Charles.



Le 2014-05-02 12:56, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

Hello All.

My name is Chandrakant Dhutadmal. I am from Pune, India. Currently i
am working as senior technical officer, at Centre for Development of
advanced computing (C-DAC), Pune.

I have been working in Localization domain since about last 8 years. I
had earlier used Open Office and conducted training and spread
awareness about open office among lot of people from various sectors
like Academics, Govt, NGO's, and SME's. I have also been attending
various meeting and conferences to spread the word.

I have also been using Libre Office since quite some time now. I think
i can be a good contributor as a Member of Marketing team and take
this product to newer heights of success.

I would also like to know if there is any marketing group active in
India who promotes Libre Office in India and let me know how can i
participate.


Cheers,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal
Senior Technical Officer
C-DAC, Pune, India.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Tips of the week -help needed


Hello Pierre-Yves,

Le 2014-05-02 16:42, pierre-yves.sa...@laposte.net a écrit :

Hi

This is my first message posted on this list.

First a brief introduction: I am a francophone member of TDF.
I participate in user support, documentation, quality assurance,
some marketing stuff (documents, brochures...)
and my english is poor...sorry for that.


Charles-H. Schulz
I went to check the list of tips yesterday and I saw that many
more had been added - I don't know who (I can't know it)


I added 33, 35-45, 50-58 but I forgot to sign sorry...


cool! Actually there's no mandatory sign in on the pad, it's not meant 
to document everyone's contribs so don't worry.




My thought is that these tips of the day can cover both
technical aspects as more general points.
It is in this mind that I have written.
Feel free to contradict me if this is not what is expected ...


Yes, with the important nuance that these tips are specifically user 
oriented, even if they are not technical. Is that what you had in mind?


best,

Charles.




Best regards
Pierre-Yves


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Libre Office Marketing activities in India

Rajesh, Kannan, Chandrakant,

This is getting interesting :-)

May I suggest we work this in two streams?
- check who is currently working on Indic langages localizations, what 
localization of constitutionally recognized language is currently missing and 
who may work on it

- on this mailing list, discuss and define a few concrete actions to raise 
LibreOffice awareness in India and improve its distribution. 

What do you think?

Best,

Charles. 

On 2 mai 2014 19:08:15 CEST, Rajesh Ranjan rajeshka...@yahoo.com wrote:
Charles, Chandrakant and Kannan,

It is good to see the activity related to Libreoffice for India.
libreoffice is one of the most important flagship product of foss but
in India the activity of promoting the lo is almost negligible. Its sad
and we should certainly do some concrete effort regarding the same.

I would also like to be part of it actively and would like to work a
lot for libreoffice in India.  I am working for Hindi language since
ten years in FOSS localization world. Earlier, I was associated with
openoffice as well. I know lot of localization
contributors/coordinators of different Indian language. I think they
can also help us out to do organized marketing activity related to
libreoffice in India.

thanks!

 
Regards, 
Rajesh Ranjan 

www.rajeshranjan.in
twitter: @kajha 
facebook: rajeshkajha 


 

 On Friday, May 2, 2014 6:40 PM, Kannan Moudgalya kan...@iitb.ac.in
wrote:
  Dear Chandrakant,
 
 I am delighted to see your mail.
 
 Our team has been conducting Spoken Tutorial based SELF workshops on 
 LibreOffice, mainly in academia, training tens of thousands of
people.  
 Lately, I have been trying to come up with a print edition of 
 LibreOffice Manuals (500 copies) to promote LibreOffice in colleges,
who 
 need a printed book for the software to be included in their 
 curriculum.  This project has taken a lot longer than what I
expected, 
 because I seem to have not followed some procedures.  I hope to 
 close 
 this activity soon.
 
 Next time when you come to Mumbai, please drop by at IIT and we can 
 discuss how to take things forward in India.  I believe that you can 
 contribute quite a bit on the Indic language front.  Best wishes,
 
 Kannan
 
 
 On 02/05/14 6:13 PM, chandrakant dhutadmal wrote:
  Hi Charles.
 
  Thanks for welcoming me in the community.
 
  Yes. C-DAC is one of the organization which has been into
Localization and 
 its marketing since quite some time now.
 
  I have personally  been active in some other open source
communities and i 
 have noticed that there are no Libre Office promotional activities
being carried 
 out as a community.
 
  I personally would like to contribute in this community driven
promotional 
 activity in a better way.
 
  Regards,
  Chandrakant Dhutadmal
  Pune, India.
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Friday, May 2, 2014 5:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
   
  Dear Chandrakant,
 
  Welcome to the LibreOffice project! I have seen your earlier posts
on
  the L10N mailing list and it's great to see that more localizations
can
  be created. On top of that C-DAC has been a long standing
contributor to
  the old Openoffice.org project :-)
 
  It is a bit unclear to me whether there are active teams promoting
  LibreOffice around India though. We have various contacts with
public
  institutions there however. Given the scope of your involvement, I
guess
  you have a team working with you on LibreOffice localizations and
  marketing?
 
  Best,
 
  Charles.
 
 
 
  Le 2014-05-02 12:56, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :
  Hello All.
 
  My name is Chandrakant Dhutadmal. I am from Pune, India. Currently
i
  am working as senior technical officer, at Centre for Development
of
  advanced computing (C-DAC), Pune.
 
  I have been working in Localization domain since about last 8
years. I
  had earlier used Open Office and conducted training and spread
  awareness about open office among lot of people from various
sectors
  like Academics, Govt, NGO's, and SME's. I have also been 
 attending
  various meeting and conferences to spread the word.
 
  I have also been using Libre Office since quite some time now. I
think
  i can be a good contributor as a Member of Marketing team and take
  this product to newer heights of success.
 
  I would also like to know if there is any marketing group active
in
  India who promotes Libre Office in India and let me know how can i
  participate.
 
 
  Cheers,
  Chandrakant Dhutadmal
  Senior Technical Officer
  C-DAC, Pune, India.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Curious to know about online video marketing of LibO

2014-04-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Jay,

Sounds like a great idea!
Can we see some of his/her production online?

Best, 

Charles. 

On 29 avril 2014 06:30:24 CEST, Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Charles,

You'll have to excuse me as i'm new to the whole mailing list concept.
I 
did a search through the mailing list and pulled up this, which you 
mentioned in october:

  we intend / we should come up with nice and short videos demoing
 LibreOffice or just presenting it, and if needed we could have a
budget
  for that. More on this during the marketing IRC chat.

So is there a irc chat log that i should be looking through to know 
about the results of this discussions.

Before joining the mailing list i was checking the marketing section of

the wiki to find any information on the ideas that the marketing team 
was having about LibO videos, but unfortunately couldnt find anything.

Well i've found a friend who can do video editing and another who can
do 
adobe after effects work for a short video, so i'd like to know what
you 
all think is a useful first video to do about libreoffice. I have been 
contemplating titles like 'what is libreoffice?' and 'the story of 
libreoffice'.

Jay Philips

On 04/28/2014 07:10 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hello Jay,

 May I suggest you browse this mailing list archives for a bit more 
 context and background?
 As you may know, we started this project in the end of 2010, so it is

 likely we already discussed some of what you're alluding to.

 For instance, I was writing here, on this list, a few days ago about
a 
 new messaging outline.

 Stay tuned and thank you for your input,

 Charles.

 Le 2014-04-28 16:56, Jay Philips a écrit :
 Well i wouldnt necessarily say that professional video editing was
 necessary for it as you can see that the majority of the popular
 videos on the linux foundations youtube channel really just require
 some adobe after effects work. What is most needed is the concept
and
 message of the video which TDF should oversee so that its done
right.

 Thanks for the link. Seems ustream search is case sensitive 
 http://www.ustream.tv/search?q=LiboCon 

 Jay Philips

 On 04/28/2014 06:44 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
 On 28/04/14 16:32, Jay Philips wrote:

 Yes i just heard Micheal Meeks mention that in his talk at oSC14 
 when he
 talked about all the money Mozilla keeps lying around and doesn't
use.
 TDF raises already a reasonable amount of money, but there are
other
 priorities. Professional video production is extremely expensive,
and
 there are other marketing tools which are far less expensive and
more
 effective (like media relations).

 I searched Ustream for 'LiboCon' and got zero results.
 http://www.ustream.tv/search?q=libocon




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[libreoffice-marketing] Tips of the week -help needed

2014-04-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello everyone,

You may not know about this but every week we release on Twitter a tip of the 
week. Zeki started both the idea znd a first list located here: 
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing (scroll down the page to get it) 
. Now what we would need is more tips and not just questions so that we can 
continue to spread the tips on a weekly basis. 

Interested?  You only to write one down the list and no registration is 
required. 

Thank you,

Charles. 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Curious to know about online video marketing of LibO

2014-04-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Jay,

Glad you are joining us for marketing tasks!
About the Youtube channel we only recently opened it and yes, realizing 
a full YouTube channel with videos of our own  is on our roadmap.


But you know the drill I guess: we need volunteers for that, as these 
vids do not get automagically made up.


As for LibreOffice Conferences, we do have videos - more like streams 
actually and you can see the past streams here: http://www.libocon.org


If you woulkd like to work on videos for the Libreoffice project please 
let us know, Sophie, Robinson, Marc, myself and others would be excited 
to help you.


Best,

Charles.


Le 2014-04-28 11:25, Jay Philips a écrit :

Hi Sophie,

I hope this does change and you do put up videos from the various LibO
conferences as unfortunately not everyone can visit the conference and
hear the wonderful talks given. Is there a link online to videos from
the previous conferences? Does LibO produce any 30 second to 1 minute
advertisement videos?

Though the community may have little interest in youtube, it is an
excellent and cheap avenue to bring more awareness to the masses of
LibO and its advantages. You can see the linux foundation doing the
same and they have videos seen in the hundred of thousands. 
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLinuxFoundation/videos?sort=pflow=gridview=0


Jay Philips

On 04/28/2014 12:41 PM, Sophie wrote:

Hi Jay,
Le 28/04/2014 10:34, Jay Philips a écrit :

Hi Sophie,

I had replied to your tweet and wondered why the official channel 
isnt
linked to on the LibO website and why the channel doesnot contain 
videos

of its own.

The idea was more to link to videos made by community members than
manage our owns, but nothing prevent this to change :) As for why it's
not linked on the site, I don't know, may be because the community has
little interest for YouTube.
Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Curious to know about online video marketing of LibO

2014-04-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Jay,

May I suggest you browse this mailing list archives for a bit more 
context and background?
As you may know, we started this project in the end of 2010, so it is 
likely we already discussed some of what you're alluding to.


For instance, I was writing here, on this list, a few days ago about a 
new messaging outline.


Stay tuned and thank you for your input,

Charles.

Le 2014-04-28 16:56, Jay Philips a écrit :

Well i wouldnt necessarily say that professional video editing was
necessary for it as you can see that the majority of the popular
videos on the linux foundations youtube channel really just require
some adobe after effects work. What is most needed is the concept and
message of the video which TDF should oversee so that its done right.

Thanks for the link. Seems ustream search is case sensitive 
http://www.ustream.tv/search?q=LiboCon 

Jay Philips

On 04/28/2014 06:44 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:

On 28/04/14 16:32, Jay Philips wrote:

Yes i just heard Micheal Meeks mention that in his talk at oSC14 when 
he
talked about all the money Mozilla keeps lying around and doesn't 
use.

TDF raises already a reasonable amount of money, but there are other
priorities. Professional video production is extremely expensive, and
there are other marketing tools which are far less expensive and more
effective (like media relations).


I searched Ustream for 'LiboCon' and got zero results.

http://www.ustream.tv/search?q=libocon



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Volunteer to maintain @AskLibreOffice twitter account

2014-04-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Tom,

thanks but you're mixing two twitter accounts here

Best,

Charles.

Le 2014-04-25 10:53, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)

That sounds like a big improvement on what we have at the moment!  I'm
sure Zeki would be willing to help with the Twitter side of things if
you need support there, if he has time!

How about asking the Documentation Team and Users Support mailing
lists for a list of hintstips?  Other lists might be good to ask too.
 Ask LO might be q good source too.

I thought we had discussed and agreed that tip of the week might be
more sustainable than tip of the day?  Tip of the day probably drew
attention and was a good way to kick it off but how about dropping to
tip of the week?

Regards from
Tom :)


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Volunteer to maintain @AskLibreOffice twitter account

2014-04-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Dear Paolo,

Thank you a lot for your help!
The twitter account @AskLibreOffice specifically tweets from the 
http://ask.libreoffice.org website.
Basically these are questions from users and the thread derived from the 
question.
Please check with Zeki directly what the best practices are and of 
course do not hesitate to ask here on the website list if you have any 
question.


Zeki, would you mind helping Paolo on the transition?

Thank you both!

Charles.



Le 2014-04-25 09:23, Paolo Pelloni a écrit :

Well  I may not be the ideal candidate  but I could give it a
try.
I do have knowledge of Twitter but I definitely need to brush up my
libreoffice tools one to provide meaningful information.
If none better is willing to step up I'll be glad to see if I can help.

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From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
To: Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com,
marketing@global.libreoffice.org marketing@global.libreoffice.org,
webs...@global.libreoffice.org webs...@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Volunteer to maintain
@AskLibreOffice twitter account
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:37:53 +0200


Helo Zeki,

I already run the @libreoffice and @tdforg twitter account ; I don't
think I would have  the time. Btw we need to update the tip of the
week list with actual tips, it is getting a bit short now.

Thank you a lot for everything you are doing Zeki!

Charles.

On 24 avril 2014 18:47:27 CEST, Zeki Bildirici
zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com wrote:

15 Nis 2014 20:00 tarihinde Zeki Bildirici
zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com
yazdı:


Hi,

I still have been waiting someone to take over a maintain the
@AskLibreOffice twitter account. https://twitter.com/AskLibreOffice
(it currently has 315 followers and wont be hard to increase -

posting

Answer of the day will be very very good )

Volunteers from QA has already taken over the bugzilla twitter

account...


I really have no time to maintain this account. And it will be very
nice if  someone from ask team or another volunteer to take this
account

Maintaining this account is relatively simple. Limited interaction

and

mostly resulting to direct users to ask their questions through our
ask portal

Other points are already stated in marketing pad. Copyig here for

lazy
ppl :)


***

   Guideline to LibreOffice Twitter Account Administrators


- Maintain the automatic streams

- Respond to interactions

- Responding to mentions is a key point and the basic principle is

being
polite


- Empathy is another key pointi thus try to understand angry and

whining
users


- If someone is angry about a known problem, don't avoid to say that
we are sorry about your problem

- Canalize people to related channels of user support ie. ask site,
bugzilla, user list, wiki etc.

- Don't reply to swearing or rude trolls

- Promote announcements and LibreOffice

- Promote community and invidiual users. Giving #ff(Follow Friday)'s
to contributors twitter accounts will increase the motivation

- Do some public relations(PR) stuff:

- Do regular search with #LibreOffice hashtag and other keywords for
example LibreOffice crashes may be good for bugzilla account keeper
How LibreOffice will may work for ask site account keepers. Aslo
some search about Microsoft Office will work for example Microsoft
Office expensive search should  definetely has a good results to
promote LibreOffice - Just reply some users that Hey why don't you
give a chance to LibreOffice it is free and a good alternative etc.
also some related search about Microsoft Office products will work

and

also Microsoft Office alternative search may be a good opportunity
promote LibreOffice.

- For ask keepers: try to post Answer of the day -or- question of

the

day and for bugzilla keepers Great fix, another bug bites the dust
will keep the attention of followers. Also tip of the day will from
the wiki or documentation be a great post for followers

- Don't argue with anybody especcially with Apache OO's sarcasting or
targetting tweets

- Drive users to be proactive in community, like Please submit a bug
report about this issue, this will help us to improve our product or
Please post your question to our ask site, our community will get

the

answer

- Always be positive and friendly to users and if there is a
non-solotion say that We hope that this will be solved in near
future or We understand you

- Microsoft Office is doing a very good job in their professionally
administrated twitter account, keep on eye them and get some new
approaches

***

Hands?

Ping!


Best regards,
Zeki

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Volunteer to maintain @AskLibreOffice twitter account

2014-04-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Helo Zeki,

I already run the @libreoffice and @tdforg twitter account ; I don't think I 
would have  the time. Btw we need to update the tip of the week list with 
actual tips, it is getting a bit short now.

Thank you a lot for everything you are doing Zeki!

Charles. 

On 24 avril 2014 18:47:27 CEST, Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
15 Nis 2014 20:00 tarihinde Zeki Bildirici
zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com
yazdı:

 Hi,

 I still have been waiting someone to take over a maintain the
 @AskLibreOffice twitter account. https://twitter.com/AskLibreOffice
 (it currently has 315 followers and wont be hard to increase -
posting
 Answer of the day will be very very good )

 Volunteers from QA has already taken over the bugzilla twitter
account...

 I really have no time to maintain this account. And it will be very
 nice if  someone from ask team or another volunteer to take this
 account

 Maintaining this account is relatively simple. Limited interaction
and
 mostly resulting to direct users to ask their questions through our
 ask portal

 Other points are already stated in marketing pad. Copyig here for
lazy
ppl :)

 ***

Guideline to LibreOffice Twitter Account Administrators


 - Maintain the automatic streams

 - Respond to interactions

 - Responding to mentions is a key point and the basic principle is
being
polite

 - Empathy is another key pointi thus try to understand angry and
whining
users

 - If someone is angry about a known problem, don't avoid to say that
 we are sorry about your problem

 - Canalize people to related channels of user support ie. ask site,
 bugzilla, user list, wiki etc.

 - Don't reply to swearing or rude trolls

 - Promote announcements and LibreOffice

 - Promote community and invidiual users. Giving #ff(Follow Friday)'s
 to contributors twitter accounts will increase the motivation

 - Do some public relations(PR) stuff:

 - Do regular search with #LibreOffice hashtag and other keywords for
 example LibreOffice crashes may be good for bugzilla account keeper
 How LibreOffice will may work for ask site account keepers. Aslo
 some search about Microsoft Office will work for example Microsoft
 Office expensive search should  definetely has a good results to
 promote LibreOffice - Just reply some users that Hey why don't you
 give a chance to LibreOffice it is free and a good alternative etc.
 also some related search about Microsoft Office products will work
and
 also Microsoft Office alternative search may be a good opportunity
 promote LibreOffice.

 - For ask keepers: try to post Answer of the day -or- question of
the
 day and for bugzilla keepers Great fix, another bug bites the dust
 will keep the attention of followers. Also tip of the day will from
 the wiki or documentation be a great post for followers

 - Don't argue with anybody especcially with Apache OO's sarcasting or
 targetting tweets

 - Drive users to be proactive in community, like Please submit a bug
 report about this issue, this will help us to improve our product or
 Please post your question to our ask site, our community will get
the
 answer

 - Always be positive and friendly to users and if there is a
 non-solotion say that We hope that this will be solved in near
 future or We understand you

 - Microsoft Office is doing a very good job in their professionally
 administrated twitter account, keep on eye them and get some new
 approaches

 ***

 Hands?
Ping!

 Best regards,
 Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Magazine 10

2014-04-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Eliane,

On 23 avril 2014 16:28:26 CEST, C smau...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Eliane Domingos
elianedomin...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 The Brazilian LibreOffice Community is very proud to announce the
10th
 edition of LibreOffice Magazine.

 This project is very important for us, the magazine is very popular
in
 Brazil and we think it's good way to push the best office suite of
the
 world.

 The idiom of Magazine is Portuguese.

 Our magazine is avaiable in:

http://blog.pt-br.libreoffice.org/2014/04/23/libreoffice-magazine-10-e-lancada/

Even though I cannot read Portuguese, I still read every issue. The
quality and content is as always very professional and really very
well done.

Thank you and tour team for this issue !

Say, I think we need  to have someone able to translate the magazine in English 
so that others can localize it. Do you know anyone who could do it or would be 
willing to do it?

Best,

Charles. 




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[libreoffice-marketing] Messaging on LibreOffice applications/modules

2014-04-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

I have started writing a general approach we could use for LibreOffice
marketing (the document is far from being ready). Today we have a
strategy for marketing, but we don't have goals or general guidelines.
Also, we're missing a general messaging approach, on the community, the
project, and on the software itself. 

We have some solid elements on the community and project already,
although it needs to be a formalized but we're missing the messaging on
the software. It is important not to fall in the trap of let's define
what LibreOffice should be as a product since there's no way marketing
messages or marketing positions can influence a Free Software project
into changing software. However it is quite possible and useful to
ponder on what makes the qualities of LibreOffice unique or at least
strong advantages. 

I started doing this for Writer, incidently by writing about
distraction-free editors:
http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/04/20/distraction-free-lo/

I would like to continue for other modules, such as Impress, Calc,
Draw, Base. Ultimately some ideas would end up defining our messaging
for some time and help us derive anything from brochure content to
messages and talking points.

Feedback welcome,

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[libreoffice-marketing] low turnout on chat sessions

2014-04-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hi,

Yesterday we had to cancel the marketing irc chat session on the spot, 
due to the very low number of participants (3, including me). The 
conversation was interesting but was going much beyond the agenda 
itself.
While this is disappointing, it's about the third time this happens. 
Interestingly enough, I'm always thinking that there's something wrong 
with the schedule of the chat session. So the last three sessions were 
scheduled at different times of the day. It does not seem to help or to 
affect the participants' turnout in any way.


I would be interested to know why this is the case. Below are a few 
possible factors:
- many people are confused by IRC - should we restart to do marketing 
chats on the phone? I seem to remember the turnout was higher on the 
phone but I might be wrong.
- people are shy - IRC is supposedly letting many people sit in the 
background and not have to express themselves in public.

- language barrier?
- the discussion topics are not interesting
- the information about the chat session is not spread around enough

What do you think ? What do you propose?

Looking forward to your input,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] low turnout on chat sessions

2014-04-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Daniel,Florian,


Le 2014-04-14 13:40, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit :

What about using the platform mentioned by Eliane in another thread,
mconf.org. As states its homepage: has a web portal that provides 
access to
web conferences, shared documents, spaces and more; a load balancer 
that
allows the system to scale to thousands of users; a web conference 
system

and a mobile web conference client.



I have not tried it but I really think it may be part of the answer to 
the issue. I'll let the list know about my impressions.
As for advertising the session on the social networks, I must admit I 
have mixed feelings about it. The session should appeal to active 
members of the community, people all around the world who engage into 
specific activities on LibreOffice. Would social networks only attract 
curious people more than actual contributors? That is my fear, but 
perhaps there are other opinions on this?


Thanks,

Charles.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Marketing chat coming up

2014-04-13 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

This  is just  a reminder that we have a marketing chat scheduled at
4pm CET (Berlin, Rome, Paris, Madrid) on #libreoffice-mkt on the
FreeNode channel. 

The agenda is right on top of the marketing pad:
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing

See you there!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing materials for the US

2014-04-09 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Robinson,

On 9 avril 2014 01:51:19 CEST, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:
[cc'ing Design for their input on new designs]

Hi all,

I'm currently looking into printing up a supply of marketing materials
for the US, both for distribution at conferences and big events, as
well as for local distribution at a smaller scale, e.g. to local LUGs.

---

Items We've Printed Previously:

Stickers:
* Both plain LibreOffice and I (heart) LibreOffice [1]

Brochures:
* General LibreOffice Information[2]
* Community [3]

---

Ideas I've Had:

I'd like to print up some pens, as they're actually an independently
useful item, and can help to improve our brand awareness.[4]
I came up with a couple of witty phrases for them, but would like more
suggestions:
* When the power goes out, use this analog edition of LibreOffice
* Download the electronic version online -- it never runs out of ink!

Some ideas for improvements:
* Consider rack cards as well as tri-folds -- both can be effective in
their own right.
* A brochure with all of the team mailing address on the back, so one
can circle the team, write the name of a good contact in that team,
and hand it to some interested in joining the community
* A brochure for corporate sponsors is REALLY important[5].
Whenever someone stops by the booth and says I'm the founder of...
or I'm (top-level role) at company..., we should have a brochure for
them so we can make them feel special and want to underwrite our
awesome work!

---

What Do You Think?

It's always good for us to look for new ways of increasing outreach
for both LibreOffice and the community. Does anyone have any
improvements they'd like to suggest for the stickers, brochures, or
other swag?

Thanks for all this! 2 comments from my side. I believe that brochures are not
really important. People don't read them and throw them away. So we should not
divert the little resources we have on them especially for corporate brochures
as companies do not get convinved with them. Same goes for pens. All this is
swag, not marketing per se but people think one amounts to the other. Now I am
not saying pens are a bad idea: they are only a small detail. The slogan ought
to remain the same one we have. Let's not blur the message. :-)

My second comment is this: we need videos to demknstrate LibreOffice and we
need web materials such as buttons, banners for online use. We have a very
little choice of them. I believe this would help a lot in the US and elsewhere.
I am happy to help if the design team or anyone else woants to contribute.

Best,

Charles.

Thanks,
--R

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material#Stickers_.28Designs_for.29

[2] (Next time: No version #)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/brochuretypes#General_Information_Brochure

[3]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/brochuretypes#LibreOffice_.22Our_Community.22_Brochure

[4] For example:
http://www.cheappens.com/products/mediaclic.html

[5] I found a stub for this:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/brochuretypes#Corporate_Sponsorship_Specific_Brochure

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing IRC chat - ping again

2014-04-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello,

We don't have too many people registered but given the answers the IRC 
meeting will take place on Sunday the 13th at 4 pm CET on 
#libreoffice-mkt (Freenode).

4pm CET is 10am EST.

We hope to see many of you there!

Charles.

Le 2014-04-03 14:50, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

Hello,

Do not forget to fill in your availability slots for our upcoming
marketing chat on IRC.
The link is here : http://framadate.org/o28beu2lnazplbkv

Thank you,

Charles.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Community conference

2014-04-07 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Eliane,

It sounds like a great idea. Did the number of participants create issues with 
Google Hangout or was the experience seamless?

Best,

Charles. 

On 7 avril 2014 14:07:18 CEST, Eliane Domingos elianedomin...@libreoffice.org 
wrote:
Hi all,

Last saturday I made a lecture in google hangout about LibreOffice and 
we had an idea during the conference. Once a month, in the last 
saturday, we'll organize a conference, having lectures and a kind of 
bugtracking. The participants were interested to test LibreOffice
online 
and having someone of the community interacting with them. I liked the 
idea. It's something that I never tried online, but I'll do. The idea
is 
to collect the bugs and report in the bugzila.

The next conference will be on May 31 at 3:00 p.m. and I created an 
account in the site Mconf.org. https://mconf.org/webconf/libreofficebr
- 
here we can have chat, video and share the screen.

So, I just wanted to share the iniciative, let's see what it's gonna 
happen. The people were very excited with the idea.

Best,

-- 
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Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil
Membro do Conselho Diretor da TDF
Brazilian LibreOffice Community
TDF Member of the Board of Directors
Experimente o sistema de perguntas e respostas da Comunidade
LibreOffice Brasil:http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/
http://pt-br.libreoffice.org

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Improving the 'Who are we?' webpage

2014-04-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Robinson,

Le Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:16:11 -0400,
Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi all,
 I've been doing some prep work for LinuxFest NW, and noticed a few
 things we might want to update on this page:
 https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/who-are-we/
 
 - Because of dual licensing, we should reference both the LGPL and
 MPL, or generalize the language
 
 - I'd like to clarify the statement:
 [we] believe in the principles of free software...the promise of
 better-quality, highly-reliable and secure software that gives you
 greater flexibility at zero cost
 
 We do offer the LibreOffice product for zero cost, but I think we
 should be clearer that use of/migration to LibreOffice can be greatly
 helped by having technical support provided either by internal or
 external appropriately-trained technical staff, which may cost
 something.
 
 - Anything else you'd suggest improving on that webpage?
 
 Best,
 --R
 
 P.S. I just noticed the 'Credits' page was last updated in June 2013
 -- I'll see about getting that updated as well.
 

Quick question: do you have edit rights on the site or shall I do the
edits myself?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Improving the 'Who are we?' webpage

2014-04-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Robinson,

Le Sat, 5 Apr 2014 11:52:30 -0400,
Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com a écrit :
  things we might want to update on this page:
  https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/who-are-we/
 
 Page is now updated -- thanks, Charles, for pinging me about that :-)
 
 Falling squarely in the category our-work-is-never-done, when I was
 checking hyperlinks to ensure that they were still valid, I noticed
 that our Community Bylaws page on the wiki is headed by an infobox
 informing me that This page was marked as inactive and is retained
 for historical reference. Hmm.
 
 The infobox goes on: This page has been used for the refinement of
 our statutes for our foundation. The final statutes can be found at
 http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/statutes/;. I looked at
 both pages, and they seem to cover roughly the same content (although
 admittedly, the Statues page is much more dense and lawyerly in its
 composition... :-)
 
 Question: is a simple text replacement from The Community Bylaws -
 The Statues of The Document Foundation (and a URL update)
 appropriate here?

Excellent question. The Statutes of the Foundation are legally binding
and the rules to amend them are precise -and contained within the
statutes. 

The bylaws were drafted first, served as a blueprint for the Statutes
but were for a long time some sort of internal community rules for
the LibreOffice project. They are still a very clear document
describing the initial view of the Founding Fathers, if you'll excuse
the US History - related  pun.

We are now left with a rather grey area. The Statutes are binding and
take precedence everywhere. But, and at the risk of opening a can of
worms it is fair to assume that the bylaws cover specific areas that
may not be in the Statutes. Where it's grey, however, is that the
bylaws have not been refreshed since about 3 years, and indeed this
makes them kind of obsolete as a document, although not necessarily as
a content. I believe we should point directly to the Statutes then, and
perhaps, when we have the time (there's no urgency in that matter), see
what can be rewritten or drop the topic entirely.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] ReactOS - The alternative Windows XP

2014-04-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Klaus-Jürgen,

Thank you for the heads-up! We may very well enroll to this programme 
but as far as I can tell we should first find hackers willing to port 
LibreOffice to ReactOS. To my knowledge this hasn't happened yet. Would 
you suggest that we contact ReactOS and see if there might be an 
interest over there?


Best,

Charles.


Le 2014-04-03 14:28, K-J LibreOffice a écrit :

Hi Marketing-Team,
I want to lead you to an interesting link:

http://community.reactos.org/index.php/support/programs/opensource-development-program


ReactOS wants to be an alternative to WIN XP.

If it is really interesting for LibreOffice: can someone of the
marketing team take care of it?

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[libreoffice-marketing] Marketing IRC chat - ping again

2014-04-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello,

Do not forget to fill in your availability slots for our upcoming 
marketing chat on IRC.

The link is here : http://framadate.org/o28beu2lnazplbkv

Thank you,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Improving the 'Who are we?' webpage

2014-03-31 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Robinson,

Le 2014-03-30 23:16, Robinson Tryon a écrit :

Hi all,
I've been doing some prep work for LinuxFest NW, and noticed a few
things we might want to update on this page:
https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/who-are-we/

- Because of dual licensing, we should reference both the LGPL and
MPL, or generalize the language

- I'd like to clarify the statement:
[we] believe in the principles of free software...the promise of
better-quality, highly-reliable and secure software that gives you
greater flexibility at zero cost




We do offer the LibreOffice product for zero cost, but I think we
should be clearer that use of/migration to LibreOffice can be greatly
helped by having technical support provided either by internal or
external appropriately-trained technical staff, which may cost
something.


Yes and let's not forget that even if LibreOffice binaries were to be 
sold at 50 bucks a piece, we would still be conveying the most 
fundamental rights and aspects of software freedom.
While this is not an encouragement to create sites that makes you buy 
LibreOffice, I think it is important to stress more on the benefits of 
software freedom besides the importance of technical and management 
guidance for migrations.





- Anything else you'd suggest improving on that webpage?


With some post website release hindssght, I think it's important to 
stress that we -try to- base our actions on a document few have read: 
the Next Decade Manifesto: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ 
 This is our We the People document and it's what was and is used as 
the cornerstone of the LibreOffice project. It's important to highlight 
it I think.


Best,

Charles.





Best,
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P.S. I just noticed the 'Credits' page was last updated in June 2013
-- I'll see about getting that updated as well.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Document Freedom Day - March 26th

2014-03-31 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Le 2014-03-31 06:53, Robinson Tryon a écrit :

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Robinson Tryon
bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Document Freedom Day is coming up on March 26th. For anyone in the
US/New England, I'm planning a lunch meeting for us to discuss use of
open standards in government and education:


Hi everyone!

How did your LibreOffice DFD events go? Did you have a good time and
meet a lot of new faces? Did you talk about LibreOffice and ODF? Did
you make plans for the future?

Let us know what you did by creating a quick write-up of your event.
Include a few pictures, if you have them!

I found it easiest to update my event page on the wiki and include the
new information, but feel free to point us at a blog post or other
webpage:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Document_Freedom_Day/USA/New_Hampshire

Let's schedule more communal events like this in the future!


Indeed, these events (DFD or otherwise) strengthen and grow our 
communities. Thanks for organizing this Robinson!


Best,

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Impress template for next conf presentations

2014-03-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Sophie,

Let me spread the word on Twitter :-)

@DesignTeam: hello? Somebody around here?

Best,

Charles.


Le 2014-03-28 10:24, Sophie a écrit :

Hi all,

So any takers on this template proposal?

Cheers
Sophie

Le 24/03/2014 10:39, Sophie a écrit :

Hi all,

We need an Impress template for the next conference presentations. You
can see what has been used in Berlin here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/Berlin2012_Conference
or in Paris here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/SpecialEvents/LibreOffice_Conference_2011_Paris

The official Logo for Bern conference is here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/LibreOffice_Annual_Conference

Please note that if you use external pictures, make sure the license 
is

conform with our project.

Thanks a lot in advance for your proposal!
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] 10000 people on Ask LibreOffice

2014-03-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hah! Thanks for picking that up Regina.. we wiml sure be tweeting about it!

Charles. 

On 25 mars 2014 17:09:27 CET, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
Hi all,

do you notice, that there are already 9988 people on Ask LibreOffice
and 
the 1 will likely be reached in a few days?

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/users/?sort=newest
Look at member number for the top left entry.

Kind regards
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice For Schools

2014-03-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Sincerely folks, how can you post on so many lists? Stick to one please 
otherwise people will flag you down as spam.

Thanks, 

Charles. 
PS : I am fine if this takes place on the marketing one.

timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 02:54:40 PM you wrote:
 2014-03-15 6:56 GMT+02:00  timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com:
  Is anyone interested in creating a LibreOffice for Education Text
Book
  project?
  
  This can and probably should be setup as its own working group.
  
  The California Open Source Textbook Project
http://www.opensourcetext.org/
  Is currently seeking Open Source Text Books for The California
Public
  Schools K-12. They require the material to be presented in a Text
Book
  style. This would be a good way to get LibreOffice into Word
Processing
  Classes in California High Schools as well as schools around the
world.
  
  College Open Text Book http://www.collegeopentextbooks.org/ Is also
  seeking
  Text Books for use in Colleges, This would be a good opportunity to
get
  LibreOffice into College's across the US!
  
  Open Text Book Library is another College Initiative
  http://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/ as well.
  
  There are quite a few more of these organizations that partnerships
could
  be established with as well.
  
  I have been seeing a number for these popping up and I have seen
some that
  will pay $20,000 USD for Creative Commons Text Book Donations late
last
  year which could be used to help fund the this working group.
Community
  developed software with educational community developed Course-ware
would
  work out pretty well.
  
  These initiatives would require producing a full text book with
exercises
  etc.
  
  As The LibreOffice Software already has an unbeatable low cost all
we are
  missing to take over the education sector is unbeatable low cost
  course-ware to go with it.
  
  Establishing a full LibreOffice For Education program with the
goals of
  not only producing the text books but also full courses and
possibly
  Moodle course ware, Produced courses could even potentially be made
  available at edX https://www.edx.org/ (Which has a Free Into To
Linux
  Course this year for those who have not registered for it yet.) It
is a
  $2,400 course normally taught by The Linux Foundation.
 
 The subject is indeed very important and TDF should pay serious
 attention toward this.
 Situation in many countries are heavely influenced by MS lobbyists.
 Fortunately the K-12 curriculum in Lithuania's state education system
 is open to software alternatives. I know personally few teachers
 (including myself) which has choosen LibreOffice as an office
 applications teaching base.
 10 years ago even a paper text book was published in Lithuania
 containing explanations and examples with MS Office and OpenOffice in
 parallel. Now sadly it is in significant part outdated and currently
 we have no full range replacement.
 The situation could be comparable in other European countries and
 maybe wider in the world.
 
 Such thoughts so far.
 
 
 Antanas Budriūnas

I have only found one commercial publication that is mostly directly
geared to 
LibreOffice in the USA It is a getting started guide for migrating to
OpenOffice 
but also includes LibreOffice content.

Currently many US State ran school systems are moving to open text
books 
published as Creative Commons so their is a great opportunity. Some US
schools 
have ousted Microsoft due to cost constraints, some have been migrating
to 
Google for Education services and Chromebooks.

I have a cousin that teaches Business Finance Accounting, Computer
Classes and 
Math for a PA state high school. I sent him and email to find out what
they are 
using. Some schools in the US I know are still using old versions of
Word 
Perfect for Word processing classes.

Even if the schools are using Chromebooks they can easily use
LibreOffice 
through VNC.

I know their is one commercial provider of a web based LibreOffice on
the 
internet that works with Google Chromebooks but it is an older version
and is 
a paid service after a small try for free period. Has their been any
official 
push of a Document Foundation LibreOffice Web project? It would also be
a good 
time to start this as well as Microsoft , Google etc have web based
office 
offerings on the market already. 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wikipedia entry for OpenOffice software

2014-03-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Le 2014-03-21 16:48, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)
The wikipedia entry for OpenOffice seemed really quite biased towards
Apache OpenOffice and somewhat confusing terminology that
misrepresented the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice#Software

So i just edited the introduction.  Previously it said;
OpenOffice.org (OOo) a discontinued open-source ...
so i deleted the word discontinued and added a line saying
Now renamed as both Apache OpenOffice (AOO) and LibreOffice (LO
(or LibO)) as both copied their original code from OOo.

I don't know why mainstreamers have such trouble with the notion that
it's possible to copypaste as well as cutpaste.  Perhaps they just
don't understand biological systems either.  When cells first divide
which is the original! ffs.  Of course the answer is both neither
and both at the same time so i guess it is a difficult concept to
grasp.


The page also made a big point about the code contribution from IBM
but no mention of Go-oo so i added that and added that both had
contributed code to the other (because outright admitting that IBM's
contribution is also going into LO might be taken badly by corporate
organisations).  Hopefully all just vague enough to be true and to
avoid potential problems wrt to ownership etc.  Finally, it seemed
weird that there were no links to Apache or TDF.

So hopefully all quite a lot better now!



Thanks Tom! Be prepared for some hard work though. It seems there has 
been lots of LibreOffice haters editing that page in the past, and as 
such your own contributions might end up being overwritten very quickly. 
If you feel something's not right over there please let us know.


Best,

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Tip of the day tweets from @LibreOffice account

2014-03-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hi,

Le 2014-03-18 05:25, Marc Paré a écrit :

Le 17/03/14 06:40 AM, Zeki Bildirici a écrit :

9 Mar 2014 23:35 tarihinde Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org yazdı:
Hi

Heh, good idea!
so: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing


I've started a list and filled 30 items. Not complete but we can talk 
over

and edit them.

Best regards,
Zeki



Thanks Zeki! I have also added a line at the bottom.



Thank you indeed Zeki! At first I suggest we turn this into a tip of 
the week : Tom and Cor's suggestion is wise as we may run out of these 
tips quickly. I also like the section above the tips and you are right 
that we must redirect people to help and documentation links whenever we 
can.


Thanks!

Charles.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Cross postings on our mailing lists

2014-03-17 Thread Charles-H. Schulz



Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :
Could we try to watch our cross postings to our mailing lists? We
should 
try to clearly identify the targets of our subject line and try to post

only on lists where it matters.

Otherwise, we keep getting fragmented discussions. Some of our 
discussions are being sent to the design list when there is no need for

design work, or sent to the website list, when there is no need for 
website work etc.

I find the increase noise is distracting and not efficient for those of

us working on these lists. If some are unsure of why these lists exist,

then ask, and we will fill you in. But, surely, some of the topics that

I have read don't really need to be sent to all of the lists. It is
also 
better to have the discussions done only on one list so that we discuss

for a purpose and not for just discussing.

Sorry, I am just finding the recent increase in cross postings
distracting.


+1

Charles. 

Cheers,

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] III Meeting Catarinense of LibreOffice

2014-03-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Thank you Klaibson! Do you happen to habe an image or a logo of the eventso 
that we can upload it to www.libreoffice.org/events ?

Best,

Charles

Klaibson Ribeiro klaib...@libreoffice.org a écrit :

Good night.

Occur in the city Concordia, state of Santa Catarina, Brazil, the III 
Meeting Catarinense of LibreOffice, in the next day 15 of March.

Details of event, acess http://www.unc.br/uncmkt/libre-office/

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Tip of the day tweets from @LibreOffice account

2014-03-09 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Le Fri, 07 Mar 2014 09:27:51 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2014-03-06 23:28:
  Florian can open a new pad for us :-)
 
 sure,b ut why not use the marketing one? :-)
 
 Florian
 

Heh, good idea!
so: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Tip of the day tweets from @LibreOffice account

2014-03-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Florian can open a new pad for us :-)

Best, 
Charles. 

Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi,

I mostly give links to how-to pages, which was -mostly-written by me :(

May be we can work on Etherpad to produce this tweets.

No restriction, or diffuculty level. We can start from simple actions
to complicated XML filters...

Btw, we don't have to be shy to tweet, thats twitter and it is
streaming, not like mailboxes. As much as we use, we can benefit more
and more.

Could we open a pad and see what can we do?
Pad name can be:

LibreOffice tipshints tweets

or anything

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Preparation for voting on the logo

2014-03-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz



Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi all,

So, shall we say that we let until the end of the week for the logo
proposal and that beginning of next week (Monday to Wednesday) we have
the voting period on them?
We will simply vote on the list with a +1 to your favorite.
Designers, please send the link of your final proposal on this thread
so
I don't make mistake when I'll post the mail for the vote :)

Works for me :-)


Thanks to all of you

Thank you and the designers!

Charles. 


Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Tip of the day tweets from @LibreOffice account

2014-03-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Le Wed, 5 Mar 2014 23:23:48 +0200,
Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 I think that we can use @LibreOffice account to stream Tip of the
 day: for LibreOffice. Giving tips(mostly a link to a wiki article,
 online help article, blog post or documentation, answer from FAQ,
 answer from ask.libreoffice.org) will be helpful for our users and
 RT's will bring more audience. Also good features will help marketing.
 
 I've been tweetting for the tip of the day from LibreOffice Turkey
 twitter account and it seems that the followers benefit from this.
 
 Documentation team can prepare a list of suggested tips and account
 owners can tweet.
 
 - Hybrid PDF's, PDF editing etc are still less known good features.
 There are many good tips can be streamed.
 
 What do you think?

I love the idea. Zeki, could you share/translate your tips of the day?
I'm happy to tweet them from @libreoffice

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for this year LibreOffice Conference

2014-02-27 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com a écrit :
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Hi all,

On 27/02/14 17:44, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
Here are my first proposals:
taking our main conference banner and some ideas from Safwan's
proposals.

Bern_wave01

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/public.php?service=filest=93a175b4d5f95ba02a425e2580a04a65

I am sorry to say, but the trend towards using three and more typefaces
in the logo is not a good one. (Safwan's logos use two, Eleonora's seem
to use four, yours [KJ's] uses three).
I wouldn't actually mind if the logo lost the Helvetica part of years
past and was exclusively in Vegur.

Currently my favourite is the left side of
https://www.dropbox.com/s/te697vdkal3ayl7/bern-logo-07.png
from Safwan. However, it is pretty dark -- is there a possibility of
creating a lighter version of this that has the text LibreOffice
above it?
Also, what font did you use? (Looks a bit like Gotham... which is
proprietary. It would be cool if all fonts were free.)

The right side of the logo looks pretty good too, except that the
document shape strikes me as not really belonging to the rest of the
logo. Maybe it could just be left away?

Finally, in both versions, there is the R in BERN ... which looks
neither like it was meant to be quite this cozy with the N (in which
case there would probably be a bite mark in the upper part of the N)
nor like it was kerned properly (for which it is too close to the N). A
decision for either direction would seem like a good idea...

The dark square is an absolute no go for me and others. Why such a negative
sign?

Charles.

Regards,

Astron.
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[libreoffice-marketing] The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-02-26 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

... may be found here:

 http://standards.data.gov.uk/comment/974#comment-974 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: future hackfest in Finland

2014-02-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Le 2014-02-25 07:52, Otto Kekäläinen a écrit :

2014-02-24 17:31 GMT+02:00 Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:

about two days, a bit less or more if necessary, in a place with good
connectivity, alcohol and food. :-)
The hackfest is profoundly technical in its topics, although we did 
have a
great UX Hackfest for designers in Brussels at the beginning of this 
month.


TDF theoretically pays for the devs/members who would have to travel 
from
another country (unless we're like 15), and of course there ought to 
be

t-shirts, mugs, goodies, etc. The keypoint here is: no formality.



Sounds good. If we provide a venue in Tampere, is that OK? Or do you
want to have it in Helsinki? Tampere is close to the airport Ryanair
flies with cheap flights. What else do we need to organize besides the
venue, local assistance and local marketing?


You know, that is really up to you. Perhaps given the geography and what 
we already have scheduled, thinking about the wheather might be useful. 
But it's true, access to airport and ease of travel do matter a lot in 
practice.


As for what else is needed. The key is not in the numbers of 
participants. It's a hackfest, not an expo, and we're looking to expand 
the community, in this case the technical one. So looking for motivated 
participants is key here I think.


Best,

Charles.







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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

2014-02-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz



Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi a écrit :
I don't see any of my feedback addressed at current
https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/ :(

I sent my feedback in January and read on the list that current
version is close to release. Are you still going to have a
contents/marketing appeal round before release?


Nope. However if I remember well your feedback (screenshots) has been 
integrated?

Best,

Charles. 


2014-01-21 15:23 GMT+02:00 Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi:
 2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:
 http://newdesign.libreoffice.org

 Wow, looks very good! I have nothing to add to the design/layout.

 About the contents I have some comments:

 1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots!

 Immediately when somebody visits libreoffice.org to find out about
 LibreOffice, they whould be presented with screenshots. In the
 carousel the first image should include screenshots so that people
get
 a sense about what it would look like if they ran LibreOffice. When
 features are presented and explained, they should have screenshots to
 visualize the description.


 2) Free - but why?

 This is an old discussion, but free does not always communicate very
 well. I rather use the term open, but if you want to emphasize the
 American libertarian view and talk about Free/Freedom, the please add
 some text below each Free Office Suite  which explains Why free?
 clarify the usual misunderstandings.


 3) More facts, less marketing

 For example the main page has a paragraph LibreOffice comes with a
 host of new features for its users as well as several important
 changes and improvements under the hood. It looks very good and I
 agree with the content, but in my experience people don't respond
well
 to this kind of argumentation even in a marketing context. Rather
 mention a few features and deliver some facts of what LibreOffice
 actually does. I know, writing short and good text is difficult..


 4) Comparison to Microsoft Office

 I noticed the absence of any mentions of the competitor. Is there a
 policy against it? I hope the marketing part of the site could some
 how state that LibreOffice is as good as MS Office and it is in most
 cases safe and sensible to switch. And if you need X, Y and Z, then
 LibreOffice is even better. Take inspiration from

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office


 5) If this is so good, how come nobody uses it?

 Please add some list of famous users, e.g. the French Gendarmerie,
 City of Münich, Ministry of Justice in Finland etc.. LibreOffice is
 very popular, so show examples and figures. That should make people
 more safe to make the switch.



 Thanks and keep up the good work!

- Otto


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

2014-02-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Le 2014-02-24 14:34, Otto Kekäläinen a écrit :

Hello!

You don't have to remember, my feedback was below my reply just.

There are no screenshots on the front page, carousel, behind the
Discover it -link, New Features, Writer, Calc etc.. The only page that
has Screenshots is the separate Screenshots page. As argumented in my
feedback, you really should have screenshots of LibreOffice so that
people can see that it looks familiar. A few screenshots are worth a
thousand words. Marketing is visual, so pick good screenshots and use
them to communicate what LibreOffice is about.


I believe I brought you an answer earlier on the screenshots, why they 
were not the best visual elements to convey our message, etc.
If you have elements like a study or data conveying why screenshots grow 
the adoption rate of software over suggesting images or nice graphics 
you are welcome to provide them here.


Otherwise you are only expressing a prejudice on screenshots being the 
chosen method to communicate on whatever software. Screenshots can help 
but if that were the case every site out there would have screenshots. 
Most of the successful software, open source or otherwise don't have 
them, at least not in a prominent place. Why do you think that is?


Please have a little trust in what we're tying to do here :-)

Thanks,

Charles.





2014-02-24 15:02 GMT+02:00 Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:



Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi a écrit :

I don't see any of my feedback addressed at current
https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/ :(

I sent my feedback in January and read on the list that current
version is close to release. Are you still going to have a
contents/marketing appeal round before release?



Nope. However if I remember well your feedback (screenshots) has been 
integrated?


Best,

Charles.



2014-01-21 15:23 GMT+02:00 Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi:

2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:

http://newdesign.libreoffice.org


Wow, looks very good! I have nothing to add to the design/layout.

About the contents I have some comments:

1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots!

Immediately when somebody visits libreoffice.org to find out about
LibreOffice, they whould be presented with screenshots. In the
carousel the first image should include screenshots so that people

get

a sense about what it would look like if they ran LibreOffice. When
features are presented and explained, they should have screenshots 
to

visualize the description.


2) Free - but why?

This is an old discussion, but free does not always communicate very
well. I rather use the term open, but if you want to emphasize the
American libertarian view and talk about Free/Freedom, the please 
add

some text below each Free Office Suite  which explains Why free?
clarify the usual misunderstandings.


3) More facts, less marketing

For example the main page has a paragraph LibreOffice comes with a
host of new features for its users as well as several important
changes and improvements under the hood. It looks very good and I
agree with the content, but in my experience people don't respond

well

to this kind of argumentation even in a marketing context. Rather
mention a few features and deliver some facts of what LibreOffice
actually does. I know, writing short and good text is difficult..


4) Comparison to Microsoft Office

I noticed the absence of any mentions of the competitor. Is there 
a

policy against it? I hope the marketing part of the site could some
how state that LibreOffice is as good as MS Office and it is in most
cases safe and sensible to switch. And if you need X, Y and Z, then
LibreOffice is even better. Take inspiration from


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office



5) If this is so good, how come nobody uses it?

Please add some list of famous users, e.g. the French Gendarmerie,
City of Münich, Ministry of Justice in Finland etc.. LibreOffice is
very popular, so show examples and figures. That should make people
more safe to make the switch.



Thanks and keep up the good work!


- Otto




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[libreoffice-marketing] future hackfest in Finland

2014-02-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Otto,

As I was browsing your (nice) blog it came to me that perhaps you may be 
interested in organizing a LibreOffice hackfest for the end of 2014 in 
Finland?


Best,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for this year LibreOffice Conference

2014-02-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Nothing yet, calm down :-)

Best, 

Charles. 

Safwan esaf...@gmail.com a écrit :
What was decided about the logo?


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Safwan esaf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 I have made another one(probably last), using the open office logo
 elements  motif.

 *Please see the high resolution one here:*
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/te697vdkal3ayl7/bern-logo-07.png

 *And a more compressed one here:*
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oi0iw42re13sqiw/bern-logo-com-07.png
 (This one is also attached with this mail)


 [image: Inline image 1]




 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Safwan esaf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,
 Please see another attempt.
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/igp2p4b4u0rw4d3/bern-logo-4.jpg

 [image: Inline image 1]


 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Le 19/02/2014 15:39, Eleonora Anzini a écrit :
  So here there are my first attemps.
  I didn't use a building because:
  a) i don't know if using a building is a conditio sine qua non
for
  conference logos
  b) i don't know which building is a Bern symbol :(
 
  instead of architecture i used bern city symbol...

 It's a good idea :)
  i've done 3 attemps, same concept different arrangements, tooking
  inspiration from last years' style...

 My preferred goes to the third, but I like them all. Let see what
others
 think.
 Thanks for your work
 Cheers
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for this year LibreOffice Conference

2014-02-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

First please make sure you are subscribed to the marketing list. As I
have to moderate you I don't think you are.

ATM it's all right if you post to the two lists. 

Thank you and Eleonora for your submission by the way.

Best,

Charles.

Le Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:28:43 +0530,
Safwan esaf...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hello,
 Actually am just clicking on reply to all and replying. What is the
 right way to reply to the list?
 Should I just post to des...@global.libreoffice.org 
 marketing@global.libreoffice.org?
 
 Sorry for the trouble if i have spammed anyone.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
  Nothing yet, calm down :-)
 
  Best,
 
  Charles.
 
 
  Safwan esaf...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
  What was decided about the logo?
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Safwan esaf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello all,
   I have made another one(probably last), using the open office
  logo elements  motif.
 
   *Please see the high resolution one here:*
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/te697vdkal3ayl7/bern-logo-07.png
 
   *And a more compressed one here:*
 
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/oi0iw42re13sqiw/bern-logo-com-07.png
 
   (This one is also attached with this mail)
 
 
   [image: Inline image 1]
 
 
 
 
   On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Safwan esaf...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hello All,
   Please see another attempt.
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/igp2p4b4u0rw4d3/bern-logo-4.jpg
 
   [image: Inline image 1]
 
 
   On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Sophie
  gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
   Le 19/02/2014 15:39, Eleonora Anzini a écrit :
 
   So here there are my first attemps.
   I didn't use a building because:
 
   a) i don't know if using a building is a conditio sine qua
  non for conference logos
   b) i don't know which building is a Bern symbol :(
 
   instead of architecture i
   used
  bern city symbol...
 
 
   It's a good idea :)
 
   i've done 3 attemps, same concept different arrangements,
  tooking
 
   inspiration from last years' style...
 
 
   My preferred goes to the third, but I like them all. Let see
  what others think.
   Thanks for your work
   Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Microsoft: government switch to open source will cause dissatisfaction

2014-02-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Le Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:03:43 -0800,
Jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com a écrit :

 
 
 On February 21, 2014 6:30:41 AM PST, Jay Lozier wrote:
 
 When I read the article I got the sense of MS FUD claiming that
 people  need proprietary MS formats to be efficient. 
 
 In one sense, MS is being truthful. There is a huge ecosystem built
 around Microsoft's file formats: CRM, ERP, and similar software.
 However, there is nothing preventing the companies that create that
 software from also supportingt ODF in their products. (NOTE: I am
 assuming that Microsoft has not forced those vendors to sign
 contracts that prohibit them supporting non-Microsoft file formats.
 Given Microsoft's history, such a prospect is possible.)
 
 A second datapoint is that the major a11y vendors do not include
 support for FLOSS in the offerings.  (Two of the biggest vendors have
 flat out promised that their software will never work correctly with
 FLOSS program.)
 
 I also sensed that MS is very concerned about losing the European
 market  to FOSS and open standards/formats. 
 
 Microsoft's issue with Europe is that unlike BRICS, bribes are more
 likely to have the company put into goal, than achieve the desired
 outcome.
 
 governments believing they are doing the bidding of the US NSA.
 
 Any government that relies on any software produced by a foreign
 firm, is a government that is subjecting itself to known security
 flaws.



Thank you everyone for your comments that have at the moment not helped
the UK Gov make up its mind :-)
May I suggest to everyone who'd like to help or express his/her views
to post them directly on the UK Government Consultation website? That's
where it'll have the most impact. Over here we're just preaching to the
choir.

Thank you,


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for this year LibreOffice Conference

2014-02-19 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marc, Christian, 

Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :
Hi Christian,

Le 19/02/14 07:25 PM, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
 And my comment to Klaus-Jürgen's remark that you need to follow the
 branding guidelines: I don't believe that the 2013 logo was against
 those guidelines, after all they state:

 Logos that don't represent the LibreOffice software or the Document
 Foundation, but are related to it in some way, may use the
LibreOffice
 symbol to show the relationship they have to it without adhering to
 the above guidelines.

 and also the example for the 10th anniversary is quite different from
 the normal LibreOffice logo.

 After all the event represents the community, not just the software,
 so creative freedom is very welcome.

 But I also agree that the Milan logo (as seen on
 http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en  ) doesn't pick up the
 distinct design elements at all.



 BTW: also feel free to play with the motif
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif  , the triangle
 arrangement/patterns - those are used in documents (presentation
 templates, letter-heads,...) - and of course can also be used in
 logos.


 ciao
 Christian

I am more in favour of KJ's comments. IMO we still need to have a 
consistent brand strategy to follow. The 2013 did obviously stray quite

a ways from this. Also our 10 year anniversary banner was worked on
when 
our branding strategy was still in infancy and we were in the middle of

trying to bridge the connection from our previous life under our older 
name and now our newer name.

I still think we need to follow branding strategy as we are really not 
well known enough in different sections of the globe.

Yes, adding the motif would be nice. It seems to have been missed in 
some of our branding artwork. It also helps with our brand recognition 
even if it is still not really necessary.


+1. Branding consistency works like repetition  for pedagogy. We can afford to 
be more liberal only when our brand is well known. And yet most of the changes 
should convey a nuance of sorts.

Best,

Charles. 

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

I think Italo keeps track of this. And yes very nice article it is encouraging 
to do even  better :-)

Best, 

Charles. 

Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.

nice looking small article with a slide show.

It seems to be listed in the Enterprise Apps section of eWeek's
online 
articles.
It is nice to see LibreOffice and Enterprise go together.

LibreOffice 4.2 Office Suite Boasts New Features, Performance Boost
By Sean Michael Kerner  |  Posted 2014-02-03

http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/slideshows/libreoffice-4.2-office-suite-boasts-new-features-performance-boost.html

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

2014-02-13 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Not at all. Perhaps staging.libreoffice.org might be better :-)

Best, 
Charles. 

Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :
Hi,

Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2014-02-13 15:53:
 Sorry for not announcing it here - it is currently available using
the
 ip 144.76.139.236

any objections that I change the DNS entry? :)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation

2014-02-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


Hello Andreas,

I think Philipp has a point here. Mozilla came up with some very good 
designs and I think that one of the utmost priorities with the new 
extensions and templates site is to attract and appeal to users.


Best,

Charles.


Le 2014-02-12 12:05, Philipp Weissenbacher a écrit :

Hey Andreas,

Indeed, it does sound more user-friendly like that. I think that most
people/extension developers would approach publishing an extension like
that.

I don't want to ruin your enthusiasm, but how about we adapt what 
Mozilla

has?
Source: https://github.com/mozilla/zamboni or better
https://github.com/mozilla/playdoh

IMHO they already have a lot of features we'd also like, plus there's a
shared maintenance cost.
It's based on Django, however. So there'd be some learning curve to
overcome. + extra load on the servers.

Never mind the course we take, I'd be very much willing to help 
implement

it.

Gruß,
Philipp
Op 11 feb. 2014 22:18 schreef Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de:


Hello,

after the feedback from Cor I thought of an alternative structure
(hierarchy) of the content types. It would be more flat.

-- ExtensionsCenter (EC)
-- ExtensionsProject (EP)
-- ExtensionsRelease (ER)

The EC will contain in the edit view form fields to customize the 
total
center, e.g. to add LibreOffice versions, categories, licenses. The 
view

will show a search form with result area, short search links etc.

The contributor will have to create (or get) an account and start with 
a

project for each extension. There will be a edit form where he will be
asked for the necessary information about the extension project. The
view of the project will show information about the project, e.g.
category, description and maybe a form to send messages to the project
owner. There will also links to the releases and for the download of 
the

files (for each public release).

The release content type will contain the information about the 
release

and all extensions files of that release with the information about
license and appropriate platform. I had to add about 5 or 6 file 
fields

to the release content type.

It would be possible to add some more information to each content 
type,

e.g. install instructions, legal information for users, images
(screenshots, logos).

Does this structure sound more user friendly? Feedback? Additions?

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Table World Cup 2014 in LibreOffice Calc

2014-01-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Tweeted and retweeted :-)

Charles.

Le Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:44:04 -0200,
Klaibson Ribeiro klaib...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi.
 
 This password is copa2014.
 
 Good week.
 Em 28/01/2014 16:35, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net escreveu:
 
  Klaibson Ribeiro wrote:
   Hi.
  
   The available the Table of World Cup 2014, created in the
   LibreOffice
  Calc.
  
   The link for download is http://goo.gl/ai2S8Z
  
   Good luck for your team national.
 
  Nice, but why did you feel it was important to password protect it?
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Table World Cup 2014 in LibreOffice Calc

2014-01-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Thanks a lot Klaibson! I will tweet it tomorrow! 

Best, 

Charles. 

Klaibson Ribeiro klaib...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi.

The available the Table of World Cup 2014, created in the LibreOffice
Calc.

The link for download is http://goo.gl/ai2S8Z

Good luck for your team national.





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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Website Redesign - Beta

2014-01-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Jean,

Le Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:07:40 +1000,
Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
 
  ... if anything, we should do
  ten times more marketing, and less facts. We are getting bored to
  hell with facts. People don't care about facts; they want something
  fun they can use and understand as fast as possible. They also want
  to be part of something, like a community, and they want meaning.
  Facts in place of marketing could kill Free Software, I could swear
  it.
 
 
 Perhaps so, but IMO the vast majority of our users and potential
 users have no interest in community or meaning or even fun --
 they just want a great product that does what they want or need to
 do, and therefore they want facts.
 
 Obviously we see the world of software quite differently. (This may
 well be a generational thing, at least partly.) Your emphasis is on
 the production side; my interest and emphasis is on the consumption
 (user) side.

Actually I don't believe we have that of a different view. We see the
same issues from two different vantage points. It's not an either/or
thing; you focus on the consuming side - we tried to improve that by
orders of magnitude by getting rid of pages of text no one reads and
make it simpler to grasp the idea - but we do have another specific
objective, which is to improve and grow the community. In this sense
the redesign has to meet these two goals.

best,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

Hello there,

I'd like to present you with a beta of the upcoming website -some
already saw it, this time, the homepage has been edited, images
selected, etc. We miss some  integration of text, rss feeds and twitter
widgets. The Discover section also received images, and the community
section is under heavy work. We are integrating the Download, Donate
pages and we need to work on the Events Page as well. 

http://newdesign.libreoffice.org

Feedback -other than details that were already specified in the specs-
welcome!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Website Redesign - Beta


Marina, Florian,

The Community section is being worked on right now.Accessibility page 
works, but the other errors you get are normal.


Best,

Charles.

Le 2014-01-21 10:43, Marina Latini a écrit :

Wow, it looks amazing! Very professional and clear.
All the informations are clear and the drop down menus simplify the 
navigation.

Well done! :)

Some errors:
* Get help -- System Requirements: there's a wrong link a
href=/download/ class=linkSystem Requirements/a
* Get help -- Accessibilty: returns failed to open stream: No such
file or directory
* Get help -- Nabble: returns failed to open stream: No such file or
directory
* get help -- bug assistant: maybe a wrong src into the iframe?
iframe src=bugassistant/libreoffice/bug/bug.html?version=5
width=892 height=1600 frameborder=0/iframe
* Community -- developers: returns FILEMTIME(): STAT FAILED

If I can help you, ping me!
My two cents ;)

Have a nice day!
Marina


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Inviato: Martedì, 21 gennaio 2014 10:15:16
Oggetto: [libreoffice-website] Website Redesign - Beta

Hello there,

I'd like to present you with a beta of the upcoming website -some
already saw it, this time, the homepage has been edited, images
selected, etc. We miss some  integration of text, rss feeds and twitter
widgets. The Discover section also received images, and the community
section is under heavy work. We are integrating the Download, Donate
pages and we need to work on the Events Page as well.

http://newdesign.libreoffice.org

Feedback -other than details that were already specified in the specs-
welcome!

Best,

--
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

Le Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:18:21 +0100,
Philipp Weissenbacher p.weissenbac...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I have to agree, the new site looks superb!
 
 One little nit-pick/request:
 The banner on
 http://newdesign.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/ is a bit
 daunting to look at if you are looking for ways to join.

Oh... don't pay attention to this page now, nothing's really in place
and these are not the pictures you are looking for :-)


 
 Maybe we can replace that with header sections for each field (like in
 http://newdesign.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/)?
 That way we give people who would like to join a good overview of
 what they can do (in addition to the menu itself).

We actually have other, dedicated images so stay tuned :-)

Best,

Charles.

 
 Thanks,
 Philipp
 
 
 On 21 January 2014 14:23, Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi wrote:
 
  2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:
   http://newdesign.libreoffice.org
 
  Wow, looks very good! I have nothing to add to the design/layout.
 
  About the contents I have some comments:
 
  1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots!
 
  Immediately when somebody visits libreoffice.org to find out about
  LibreOffice, they whould be presented with screenshots. In the
  carousel the first image should include screenshots so that people
  get a sense about what it would look like if they ran LibreOffice.
  When features are presented and explained, they should have
  screenshots to visualize the description.
 
 
  2) Free - but why?
 
  This is an old discussion, but free does not always communicate very
  well. I rather use the term open, but if you want to emphasize the
  American libertarian view and talk about Free/Freedom, the please
  add some text below each Free Office Suite  which explains Why
  free? clarify the usual misunderstandings.
 
 
  3) More facts, less marketing
 
  For example the main page has a paragraph LibreOffice comes with a
  host of new features for its users as well as several important
  changes and improvements under the hood. It looks very good and I
  agree with the content, but in my experience people don't respond
  well to this kind of argumentation even in a marketing context.
  Rather mention a few features and deliver some facts of what
  LibreOffice actually does. I know, writing short and good text is
  difficult..
 
 
  4) Comparison to Microsoft Office
 
  I noticed the absence of any mentions of the competitor. Is there
  a policy against it? I hope the marketing part of the site could
  some how state that LibreOffice is as good as MS Office and it is
  in most cases safe and sensible to switch. And if you need X, Y and
  Z, then LibreOffice is even better. Take inspiration from
 
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office
 
 
  5) If this is so good, how come nobody uses it?
 
  Please add some list of famous users, e.g. the French Gendarmerie,
  City of Münich, Ministry of Justice in Finland etc.. LibreOffice is
  very popular, so show examples and figures. That should make people
  more safe to make the switch.
 
 
 
  Thanks and keep up the good work!
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

Le Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:23:42 +0200,
Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi a écrit :

 2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:
  http://newdesign.libreoffice.org
 
 Wow, looks very good! I have nothing to add to the design/layout.
 
 About the contents I have some comments:
 
 1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots!
 
 Immediately when somebody visits libreoffice.org to find out about
 LibreOffice, they whould be presented with screenshots. In the
 carousel the first image should include screenshots so that people get
 a sense about what it would look like if they ran LibreOffice. When
 features are presented and explained, they should have screenshots to
 visualize the description.

No. And by the way, have you checked out the website for Microsoft
Office or Mozilla? Because there are either no screenshots, or they are
stuck somewhere in a back menu.

 
 
 2) Free - but why?
 
 This is an old discussion, but free does not always communicate very
 well. I rather use the term open, but if you want to emphasize the
 American libertarian view and talk about Free/Freedom, the please add
 some text below each Free Office Suite  which explains Why free?
 clarify the usual misunderstandings.

Sorry about that, in fact, that text will be entirely scraped out and
replaced by something completely different. The only Free you should
see is in the trilogy: Free Office Suite, Fantastic People, Fun project.

 
 
 3) More facts, less marketing
 
 For example the main page has a paragraph LibreOffice comes with a
 host of new features for its users as well as several important
 changes and improvements under the hood. It looks very good and I
 agree with the content, but in my experience people don't respond well
 to this kind of argumentation even in a marketing context. Rather
 mention a few features and deliver some facts of what LibreOffice
 actually does. I know, writing short and good text is difficult..


This portion can of course be changed. But if anything, we should do
ten times more marketing, and less facts. We are getting bored to hell
with facts. People don't care about facts; they want something fun they
can use and understand as fast as possible. They also want to be part
of something, like a community, and they want meaning. Facts in place
of marketing could kill Free Software, I could swear it.


 
 
 4) Comparison to Microsoft Office
 
 I noticed the absence of any mentions of the competitor. Is there a
 policy against it? I hope the marketing part of the site could some
 how state that LibreOffice is as good as MS Office and it is in most
 cases safe and sensible to switch. And if you need X, Y and Z, then
 LibreOffice is even better. Take inspiration from
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office


In fact, this page is already linked in the Discover section. For
various reasons (part of them legal, part of them related to messaging)
I don't feel comfortable putting out such a list staight on the
website, however, we *do* link to it.


 
 
 5) If this is so good, how come nobody uses it?
 
 Please add some list of famous users, e.g. the French Gendarmerie,
 City of Münich, Ministry of Justice in Finland etc.. LibreOffice is
 very popular, so show examples and figures. That should make people
 more safe to make the switch.


Very good point. I cannot promise such a page for next week, but we
definitely should have a catchy page with such testimonials. At least
we can do better than the Awards Page (About Us  Awards)

 
 
 
 Thanks and keep up the good work!

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fragmentation of resource wiki pages

2014-01-20 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marc,

Le Sun, 19 Jan 2014 17:20:29 -0500,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 Hi everyone,
 
 Just wondering if people were aware that we were slowly collecting
 our marketing/design resources and trying to sort them our logically.
 So, a year ago or so (a little more), the marketing/design teams
 created a central repository that we share in management. We also put
 the link on our respective wiki pages (3rd menu liine)
 
 So, our link/label for the repository is called Marketing
 Logo/Artwork Resources (as you can see on our 3rd menu line)[1] AND
 the design teams link/label is called plainly Artwork Resources[2].
 
 These two links lead to this page: 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements
 
 We are now seeing a build-up of a page that was slated for deletion
 (it was being emptied as we had time to do so) that is found here: 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material
 
 I am not sure if you are aware of this and probably explains a new 
 buildup of resources on many wiki pages that essentially fragment our 
 materials that would probably be best put on one page. This leads to
 our spending more energy re-inventing materials that we may in fact
 have done and reposited on a wiki that people have forgotten existed.

Well I was not aware of that as well, so our communication does not go
well. Let me just summarize where we stand then, because I think
everybody is confused by the tools we are using. 

* During the latest LiboCon, people complained that our marketing wiki
  and the wiki in general just did not serve their purpose for file and
  document storage. As a result, our Owncloud repository was open.
  While you need credentials to upload documents, download of the
  public section (the Shared/Common/ folder) is open to anyone)
* It does not mean we stop using the wiki; but we will be using the
  wiki to draft content we need to edit and work on collaboratively -
  the first and main purpose of a wiki - but not as a document
  repository. 

Given these two parameters, any consolidation of content on the wiki is
actually much welcome . But we really need to stress that for file
repository, there's OwnCloud (btw, the Design team also has an OwnCloud
folder).

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Events logo and details

2014-01-13 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Marina,

Thank you a lot! I'll try to come up with a shorter list spanning the
wider geographical area.

Best,
Charles. 

Le Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:05:54 +0100 (CET),
Marina Latini mar...@studiostorti.com a écrit :

 Hi Charles, hi all.
 below all the collected informations about the events in the wiki.
 
 Global Events:
 * LibreOffice Conference
 logo: 
 date:
 location:
 web: http://conference.libreoffice.org/
 
 * Software Freedom Day:
 logo (2013): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork (other
 resources here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Resources) date:
 September 20th location: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/
 web: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/
 
 Events in Europe:
 * FOSDEM 
 logo: https://fosdem.org/2014/support/promote/
 date: February 1  2
 location:  ULB Solbosch Campus, Brussels, Belgium
 (https://fosdem.org/2014/practical/transportation/) web:
 https://fosdem.org
 
 * LibreOffice UX Hackfest
 logo:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:BrusselsUXHackfest2014.png
 date: February 3  4 location: 4 rue des Pères Blancs, 1040 Etterbeek
 (http://www.betacowork.com/contact-us/) web:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014
 
 * Chaos Communication Congress
 needs infos... maybe a 2013 event
 http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/30c3
 
 Events in North America:
 * LibrePlanet 2014
 logo: maybe https://libreplanet.org/w/images/1/1a/LP2010banner.png
 date: March 22  23
 location: Cambridge, MA
 web: https://libreplanet.org/2014/
 
 * OSCON 2014
 logo:
 http://cdn.oreillystatic.com/en/assets/1/event/115/oscon2014_logo.png
 date: From 20 to 27 July location: Portland, OR
 web: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014
 
 Events in South America:
 NONE
 
 Events in Asia:
 * Open Source Conference 2014 Tokyo/Spring
 logo: http://www.ospn.jp/modules/article/article.php?articleid=10
 date: February 28th  March 1st
 location: Meisei University Hino Campus, Building 28 2F 
 web: http://www.ospn.jp/osc2014-spring/ (JP only)
 
 
 Regards,
 Marina
 
 
 Marina Latini 
 mar...@studiostorti.com
 
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 Da: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
 A: Marina Latini mar...@studiostorti.com,
 marketing@global.libreoffice.org Inviato: Martedì, 7 gennaio 2014
 16:25:36 Oggetto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Events logo and details
 
 Hello Marina,
 
 Please have a look at this page:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events
 
 Select 5 upcoming events that will take place after January. Collect
 their logo, date and location, ideally a web address for them. That
 will help me a lot!
 
 Thank you,
 
 Charles.
 
 Le Tue, 7 Jan 2014 09:23:15 +0100 (CET),
 Marina Latini mar...@studiostorti.com a écrit :
 
  Hi all,
  if you want, I'm in :)
  
  Regards,
  Marina
  
  
  Marina Latini 
  mar...@studiostorti.com
  
  Studio Storti Srl
  Viale Leonardo da Vinci, 18
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  http://www.studiostorti.com
  
  
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  Da: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
  A: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
  Inviato: Lunedì, 6 gennaio 2014 16:01:22
  Oggetto: [libreoffice-marketing] Events logo and details
  
  Ideally I'd like to have, say, these details for the four or five
  upcoming events worldwide. Would anyone like to help me out with
  this?
  
  Thank you!
  
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events logo and details

2014-01-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marc,

Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :
Hi Charles,

Le 2014-01-06 10:01, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Hello,

 We already had a discussion on this list about the need to promote
the
 events we as a community participate to, no matter how big, small or
 official the events we attend are.

 I had explained a bit what was intended with the new page for events
in
 the upcoming website, and the idea would be not so much to display a
 calendar like a Google calendar but rather have some sort of photo
 shuffler with logo events, links and the name of the upcoming events.

 Ideally I'd like to have, say, these details for the four or five
 upcoming events worldwide. Would anyone like to help me out with
this?

 Thank you!


Does this mean that there is no longer a need for me to update the 
Google events calendar?


No I would not say that because I would like to link from the site page to our 
wiki and the calendar. The reason I ould like to change it is that there is a 
difference in presentation between a calendar that will point out dates and 
displaying info about the next upcoming events. Do you see my point?

Best,

Charles. 

Cheers,

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events logo and details

2014-01-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Marc,

Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :
Hi Charles,

Le 2014-01-11 05:32, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Does this mean that there is no longer a need for me to update the
 Google events calendar?

 No I would not say that because I would like to link from the site
page to our wiki and the calendar. The reason I ould like to change it
is that there is a difference in presentation between a calendar that
will point out dates and displaying info about the next upcoming
events. Do you see my point?

 Best,

 Charles.

No problem. So, if I understand this correctly, there will still be
this 
calendar 
[http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-international-events-calendar/]

as well as the new events page that will link to it?


Well i was thinking of linking directly to the calendar without a website page 
but maybe we could do that. What would it require? A simple embedding in the 
html?

Bedt,

Charles. 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Microsoft MigratIon Guide

2014-01-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

Italo already answered on the documentation list (I believe).
In order to understand the context a bit better, it's perhaps useful to
realize that such a migration guide fits into the context of our
professional certification project. At this stage we do not really work
on such a migration guide, however we will at some point and if there's
enough interest now, some blueprint might be possible. If you guys are
IT professionals and have already migrated customers to LibreOffice or
earlier to OpenOffice.org, please let Italo know about it.

Thanks!

Charles.

Le Wed, 8 Jan 2014 07:49:57 -0600,
Andrew Brandt and...@allstar-computer.com a écrit :

 I'd also be interested in working on this guide.
 On Jan 7, 2014 11:48 PM, David Virden
 thetechnicaldeconfusa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi, I would like to work on this guide and I was told someone on
  this list else was interested, as well. If so, would you like some
  assistance?
 
  David
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Events logo and details

2014-01-07 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marina,

Please have a look at this page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events

Select 5 upcoming events that will take place after January. Collect
their logo, date and location, ideally a web address for them. That
will help me a lot!

Thank you,

Charles.

Le Tue, 7 Jan 2014 09:23:15 +0100 (CET),
Marina Latini mar...@studiostorti.com a écrit :

 Hi all,
 if you want, I'm in :)
 
 Regards,
 Marina
 
 
 Marina Latini 
 mar...@studiostorti.com
 
 Studio Storti Srl
 Viale Leonardo da Vinci, 18
 36100 - Vicenza (VI)
 http://www.studiostorti.com
 
 
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 A: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
 Inviato: Lunedì, 6 gennaio 2014 16:01:22
 Oggetto: [libreoffice-marketing] Events logo and details
 
 Ideally I'd like to have, say, these details for the four or five
 upcoming events worldwide. Would anyone like to help me out with this?
 
 Thank you!
 



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[libreoffice-marketing] Season's Greetings

2013-12-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Everyone,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to your families with Joy, Success
and more importantly, Health. Looking forward to see TDF and the
LibreOffice project grow even more and even stronger than in 2013!

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[libreoffice-marketing] Website Wording

2013-12-15 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

As I'm seriously getting into drafting content on the future website
pages (not much to see now it's all in draft mode), I wanted to ask a
broad question here: do we want to generally have shorter, but clearer
texts or continue with the kind of texts we have on our current website?

Pros for shorter texts:
- fits better on a page, looks better
- gets the right information or the main one instantly

Cons:
- not all the information is there

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[libreoffice-marketing] December Marketing IRC meeting

2013-12-15 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

I've set up a Doodle for our december IRC meeting, let me apologize for
the smaller set of choices as we're well into December. The time slots
are expressed in European Central Time (Paris, Berlin, Rome, Madrid)
please register on this link:
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Guideline to LibreOffice Twitter Account Administrators

2013-12-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Le Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:38:05 +0200,
Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com a écrit :

 2 Ara 2013 10:18 tarihinde Florian Effenberger 
 flo...@documentfoundation.org yazdı:
 
  Hi,
 Hi Florian,
  so, I sent Charles' the credentials for both Twitter accounts, and
  he
 will take care of the verification - thanks a lot!
 That was nothing :)
 
  So, my take is the following:
 
  - Twitter
  - @tdforg Official foundation announcements, rather
  low-volume
  - @libreoffice The above + links to blog posts and other
 community things
 
 Seems I agree.
 
  - Google+:
  - TDF page: See @tdforg at Twitter
  - LibO page: See @libreoffice at Twitter
  - LibO community: See @libreoffice at Twitter, plus
  user-driven
 discussion, as everyone can post
 
  - Facebook:
  - TDF page: See @tdforg at Twitter
  - LibO page: See LibO community at Google+
  - No groups exist (on purpose)
 I disaggree setting this accounts passive mode via this references.

I disagree too, but I think Florian meant something else. He meant in
terms of automated content delivery, the streams would be the same as a
base, not necessarily as a daily activity stream where other things can
be added. It's a social network obviously.

 
 The point is to be more inclusive in all available mainstream
 channels. (Of the topic, do we have TDF or LibreOffice in linked.in
 can be focused on enterprise and professionals? )

We have an official one that's manned by an unknown person and I'd like
to have this under our control.

 
 My offer is to use a content delivery service.
 
 One source will be automatically posted to all other channels. Will
 keep all our channels updated automatically, easy and centric :)
 
 Dlvr.it has good at this but the problem is Google+  is included in
 paid service.

TDF could pay for that.

 
 Alternatively we can use the new and crazy https://ifttt.com/wtf
 which can use Google+ too.


Isn't there HootSuite as well? That would have been my first choice.

 
 If you agree with my offer i can work on it and try to present you a
 scheme about how we can distribute our content.

Sure, unless it's a big  chunk of text, feel free to add it here, or
else on the pad/wiki.

Thank you,

Charles.

 
 Best regards,
 Zeki
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MediaFire.com and Apache OO

2013-12-01 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 12:09:56 +0200,
Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Today i was downloading a pdf from MediaFire and i saw that MediaFire
 and Apache OO has some referral relationship.
 
 I've uploaded three sample files to MF
 - http://www.mediafire.com/download/1ssxqapco3cp17i/Adsız+1.pdf
 - http://www.mediafire.com/download/s0nndij0b21zv90/Adsız+1.docx
 -
 http://www.mediafire.com/download/zmp5wh1aa7h2uwy/LXDE+renk+ayarı.odt
 
 
 When you click these links you may see the box(right) says that
 [filename] can be opened with:
 Apache OpenOffice
 
 doc, docx, odt, ods also PDF files have this suggestion there and it
 directs to Apache OO Download page.
 
 Thinking millions and millions of downloads in a day in MF, it seems a
 very good advertising there.
 
 I don't know if this suggestions are os based (but as i see it
 suggests Windows Photo Preview and Apple Preview to me on a Linux
 machine)
 
 FYI,
 Zeki
 

Thanks for the pointer Zeki. Could you contact MediaFire? Otherwise
TDF itself can do it (Italo?).

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ah, those release notes...

Le Thu, 28 Nov 2013 17:27:35 +0100,
Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl a écrit :

 Hi Charles,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote (28-11-13 12:44)
  [...]
  My thinking goes like this: few people read them and the people who
  do... tend to know our wiki. Most of the people don't, they are
  interested in features and these features will have a dedicated
  section on the future website.
 
 I think that sowing the latest features (i.e. from release notes) in
 the nice presentation of the main website is a big plus.

yes indeed.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Guideline to LibreOffice Twitter Account Administrators

Le Fri, 29 Nov 2013 12:27:20 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

Hi,

Zeki Bildirici wrote on 2013-11-28 23:12:
@Florian and @Charles,

If TDF and LibreOffice are seperate identities, one is the
foundation the other is the product, keeping @tdforg for foundation
announcements, pr of the foundation,donations and other campaings
will be good. On the other hand after activating @LibreOffice
account it will quickly gain followers, and 8K should not be a big
deal. I feel that it has a great potential and will easily have
more than 15K followers as it holds the official brand's name. If
we promote it from our libreoffice.org homepage/download section
etc it can grow further.

I am fine with that, of course. I propose the marketing group comes
up with a proposal what to post where and how to handle the
transition phase, and then maybe start using both accounts (not only
on Twitter, but also on Facebook and Google+) in 2014.

Let's start with something simple:
@tdforg: major announcements, including software releases.
@libreoffice: the above + interviews, articles from the press,
community news, events -nothing mundane, but a lot of things go here.
Facebook Google +: all the above (the LibreOffice twitter account
should have a follow up on these two social media alongside questions,
posts and interactions from the networks' members).

Also we can verificate @tdforg and @LibreOffice accounts in near
future as they are known brand and organization:
http://support.twitter.com/groups/31-twitter-basics/topics/111-features/articles/119135-about-verified-accounts#

Do you know if there's an option to manually ask for validation, or
do we have to wait until Twitter approaches us?

If Zeki can jump in here, that's fine, otherwise I'll have a look.

Best,

Charles.

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Guideline to LibreOffice Twitter Account Administrators

Le Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:28:21 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-11-29 16:20:
 
  Let's start with something simple:
  @tdforg: major announcements, including software releases.
  @libreoffice: the above + interviews, articles from the press,
  community news, events -nothing mundane, but a lot of things go
  here. Facebook  Google +: all the above (the LibreOffice twitter
  account should have a follow up on these two social media alongside
  questions, posts and interactions from the networks' members).
 
 proposal sounds good to me, but I would probably make the same 
 distinction on G+ and Facebook - what do you think?

You mean no distinction between the two? Sure.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Guideline to LibreOffice Twitter Account Administrators

Le Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:38:45 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-11-29 16:29:
  You mean no distinction between the two? Sure.
 
 no, I meant the same distinction on FB/G+ as you're proposing on FB :)
 We also need a concept on how to use the fan pages and the 
 communities/groups.

oh I see. Well for the sake of clarity I will put the Facebook official
LibreOffice page and the Google + *community* on the same level . I
know there are elements that suggest we ought to do otherwise but at
the moment they are not relevant. Let's handle these two as I explained
above, with no distinction between the two networks. 

Then we have other pages like the TDF group on Facebook and the
LibreOffice page on Google +, this one being different from the
community.

I suggest that we give clear indications that these two channels are
not the preferred one, and redirect everything to the first two
conduits. Therefore we don't update these and post in a two or three
posts that we'd like people to migrate over the two other accounts.

Does it make sense?

Best,

Charles. 

 
 Florian
 



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[libreoffice-marketing] Ah, those release notes...

2013-11-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

I had a question which has some trolling potential, let's be honest,
but at the end of the day I need to know whether my feeling about it
was right and therefore I can move forward in one direction or another. 

Do we need  to display release notes in a clear way on the website, or
should we keep them on a wiki (of course, with a link from the
website)?

My thinking goes like this: few people read them and the people who
do... tend to know our wiki. Most of the people don't, they are
interested in features and these features will have a dedicated section
on the future website.

Thoughts?

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Community Section uploaded

2013-11-26 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

the right URL that won't ask you for any credentials is : 

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/Website/2013_Website_Redesign/

Best,

Charles. 

Le Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:13:40 +0100,
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hello,
 
 I have uploaded the sketches and specs of the Community/Get Involved
 section on the OwnCloud instance
 (http://owncloud.documentfoundation.org , pick the Common folder then
 -Website - Website Redesign 2013)
 
 Please review this community section and let me know if you feel
 something is missing.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Library Month proposal

2013-11-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marc,

Le Mon, 25 Nov 2013 05:28:16 -0500,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 I would like to propose that we organize a yearly, and, official
 Inform your local library of LibreOffice Documentation 'Month'
 where we would enlist the help of our members/users into
 visiting/contacting their local libraries to make sure that there are
 copies of the latest LibreOffice docs on their shelves.
 
 If you think this to be a good idea, we could make sure that this 
 monthly event would be scheduled yearly, posted on our events
 calendar as a repeated event so that it not be forgotten.
 
 I am just wondering if there are any foreseeable problems that we
 could avoid/fix if we were to initiate such a project?
 
 The calendar month would have to be strategically picked in order to 
 maximize the probability of a library having the funds to purchase a
 set of docs for their shelves. For example in N.America, academic
 library budgets (public schools, colleges, universities) will run
 from June-May and most departments will get a notice that book
 acquisitions should be placed by end of the month of February-end of
 March; however most local public libraries budgets are based on the
 calendar year, and acquisitions are generally made throughout the
 year. IMO, in these cases, I would suggest the month of February or
 March would be good picks for this type of appeal.
 
 We would then use the month to collectively call on Libraries to 
 purchase at least one copy of the set of LibreOffice docs for their 
 shelves ... and hopefully a few more copies of the more popular
 modules such as Writer.
 
 Any ideas/comments? We would have enough time to prepare to pick the 
 month to promote the push.

I'll be honest : I really have no idea about this field so I'll trust
you on that one. I had a comment though: do I get it right that the
purpose of such an event/campaign would be to spread guides about
LibreOffice? Or is it about spreading the word to librarians... or to
library users?

Thank you for this!
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[libreoffice-marketing] Community Section uploaded

2013-11-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

I have uploaded the sketches and specs of the Community/Get Involved
section on the OwnCloud instance
(http://owncloud.documentfoundation.org , pick the Common folder then
-Website - Website Redesign 2013)

Please review this community section and let me know if you feel
something is missing.

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Other top sections defined and sketched

2013-11-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Le Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:32:57 -0500,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 Hi Charles,
 
 Le 2013-11-22 13:46, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 
  Hmm. it looks like security does not show up on any menu. We had
  complaints at the start when people could not get to our security
  warnings on our webpage or at least some section where
  users/enterprises
  would be put at ease reading of our security policies.
 
  Are there plans to include it somewhere?
 
  Now there are :-)
 
  We could put a page in the about section and a link to it as well
  from the download page.
 
  Best,
  Charles.
 
 
 Sounds good. Thanks!


Done. Just check it out (among other changes and additions).

Best,


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[libreoffice-marketing] Download section specs skteches

2013-11-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

Please reply only on the website list. Thanks!

I have uploaded the Download section sketches and specs on the OwnCloud
folder and updated several other sections. Please let me know what you
think, keeping in mind the actual download mecanism (backend and
OS-language detection won't change) and that I may have gotten
everything wrong :-) :
https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=/Shared/Common/Website/2013_Website_Redesign

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Download section specs skteches

2013-11-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hi,

I have received feedback that this URL is not accessible, and so I
indicate below how to access the files.

So here's how you do it:
http://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common

click on the website folder. Then click on the website redesign 2013
folder and you're good.

Hope this helps,

Charles.

Le Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:45:42 +0100,
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

Hi,

Please reply only on the website list. Thanks!

I have uploaded the Download section sketches and specs on the
OwnCloud folder and updated several other sections. Please let me
know what you think, keeping in mind the actual download mecanism
(backend and OS-language detection won't change) and that I may have
gotten everything wrong :-) :
https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=/Shared/Common/Website/2013_Website_Redesign

Thanks for your feedback!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Other top sections defined and sketched

2013-11-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Marc,


Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :
Hi Charles,

Le 2013-11-22 13:00, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Hi,

 I'm not entirely done with this (the Community and download sections
 have not been done yet) but please go here
 https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common pick the website
folder,
 website redesign folder. You will see the sketches and the specs of
the
 future main menus and sections. As usual feedback welcome.


 Best,


Hmm. it looks like security does not show up on any menu. We had 
complaints at the start when people could not get to our security 
warnings on our webpage or at least some section where
users/enterprises 
would be put at ease reading of our security policies.

Are there plans to include it somewhere?

Now there are :-)

We could put a page in the about section and a link to it as well from the 
download page.

Best,
Charles. 



Cheers,

Marc

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[libreoffice-marketing] Discover LibreOffice - content for the future website

2013-11-20 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

As discussed previously mostly on the website mailing list we are
establishing both the general site tree, map, as well as the content
for the future website. 
While we may well reuse some of the content we have, we need to
reorganize, restructure and at least rewrite in part the content. 

Right now, I'd like to focus on the Discover top section. Please
refer to the different sketches for more information [1]

Essentially the Discover section will be  made of the following elements
(they can be separate pages or one scrolling page with the various
elements being accessible from the second menu):
* What's LibreOffice
* Writer
* Calc
* Impress
* Draw
* Base
* Math
* Charts/Diagrams
* probably one section about extensions and templates
* More marketing materials (this can be anything from a specific frame
  with visual elements to a separate page listing brochures and other
  stuff) 

Today, we have the Features section, however it has two shortcomings.
- it has way too much text. Nobody reads that, so we'll need
  graphical elements, shorter and more effective points. 
- the number of argumentative pages is confusing. I'm not talking about
  a page for each module, as I happen to keep that idea above, but we
  have three types of features related page before we even reach the
  wiki: the main features pages, categorized by modules, the specific
  what's new pages that are the sexy versions of the release notes,
  and we now even have the Why LibreOffice page. 
At this stage, we have too many depths of pages and it's quite
unclear whether anyone reads them. 

In a nutshell, my proposal would be to only focus on the modules pages
as listed above , update them frequently and if needed, for a major
release, have one temporary page highlighting the major features. Then
these highlights would trickle down the modules pages.

My detailed proposal would be as follows:
- keep a page or a section by module/application
-  insert new stuff for each of these pages
- insert an adhoc page for major releases on ad hoc basis
- get rid of the Why LibreOffice page
- take the release notes, but duplicate them on the website (the
  release notes are thus drafted on the wiki but duplicated on the
  website)
- Get rid of the What's new or specific releases major features page
  (except in the way I described above) and add content on the What's
  LibreOffice? and on each relevant module page.

Feedback welcome!
[1] http://pir.at/1aqh
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: 2nd Marketing Chat Session

2013-11-19 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello,

This is a reminder that we will have our 2nd marketing chat session on
IRC this Friday (the 22nd) at 12:00 (noon) CET
(Brussels-Berlin-Paris-Rome-Madrid) time. The chat will be on IRC, on
FreeNode and on the libreoffice-mkt channel.

You are welcome to join!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LO white paper

Hello Marc,

Le Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:26:23 -0500,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 Le 2013-11-13 02:46, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 
 
  After Milano what was felt is that we need a simple document
  repository. The wiki should be used as a wiki, that is for
  collaborative text editing (yet there's a pad for that too) and more
  exactly for texts and pages we don't really need on the website
  itself.
 
  It means that at least for marketing, the wiki has stopped to be a
  primary and daily marketing tool. I'm quoting the discussions from
  the Milano workshop here.
 
  Best,
 
 
 
 Just to be clear, and, to use a real example:
 
 I usually try to update files kept on our Visual Elements page
 which is shared with the marketing/design teams[1]. (Yep, I am still
 hoping to getting back to updating this page)
 
 Are all of these files to be kept/moved to ownCloud now? or are the 
 files kept on the wiki? Do we keep repositing the files on the wiki?
 We were keeping older files just in case we needed to go back and
 grab marketing items that would just need a little updating (no point
 in re-inventing the wheel if it can be avoided).
 
 Or is that wiki page supposed to stay on the wiki with the files 
 pointing to ownCloud?
 
 Could anyone explain how someone would go about re-organizing that
 page, now that it seems that ownCloud is the repository to marketing
 tools? And is the Design team going to follow along with the same
 workflow. Some of the marketing and design items are used by both
 teams.
 



Don't overthink it :-)  The OwnCloud repository is done for people who
want to upload stuff. Just by my sentence you know it's less than
formal. No one wants to migrate content from the wiki to the OwnCloud
while closing the wiki page (at least there's no task and no decision
for this) so if you wish to upload materials on OwnCloud please go
ahead but it's really important to note that you don't have to.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO white paper

Tim,

Le Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:53:46 +1100,
Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com a écrit :

Charles,

David first offered his services back in late September. Since then
he has produced a couple of how-tos and now this white paper.

How come it has taken so long for marketing to acknowledge his effort?

It's not about acknowledging his effort but making sure we respect
our trademark policy [1] and making sure his contributions go to the
right place and within the right context. Conversely, it may not be up
to marketing or to the certification team to reach out to David, but
the opposite.

But David's contributions are acknowledged anyway.

Cheers,

Charles.
[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy

cheers
On 14/11/13 08:47, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
David, Preston,

I am very sorry but I may be raining on your parade.
First of all, please take away the logo with the TDF subline. This
white paper is by no means an actual official migration white paper
from TDF.

Second... Thanks a lot for this whitepaper. May I suggest that you
work with the certification team ? They already started on similar
works and I think we/they would really appreciate your input. You
can join them on the certification mailing list.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards and sorry for cooling a bit the enthusiasm,

Charles.

Le Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:57:33 -0500,
Preston Bernstein prestonbernst...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi everyone,

I did a little update to David's white paper. Love to hear what you
guys think.

Thanks!

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/update-to-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper-nov-13-2013/view

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone,
I've done a bit of updating of my white paper (making the case to
transition from MS Office to LO), and it can be found here:

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_
papers/update-to-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper-nov-4-2013/view

Or, if you don't have access to ODF, it's also available either in
PDF or ODT formats here:

http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf
http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.odt

Anyone can use it wherever it might be helpful. Does anyone have
any suggestions for a permanent home?

David

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Update 2- An Overview to Ask.LibreOffice.org and Bugzilla Twitter and Planet TDF Accounts -2

Le Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:46:53 +0200,
Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com a écrit :

 14 Kas 2013 07:33 tarihinde Robinson Tryon
 bishop.robin...@gmail.com yazdı:
  Hi Zeki,
 Hi Robinson,
  Thanks for you work in this space! Regarding the Bugzilla twitter
  account, I'll bring up the topic at the next QA Call this coming
  Monday:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/November_18
 
 Sounds great :)
 
 Whata about ask team? Any volunteers there?
 
 Best Regards,
 Zeki
 

Zeki: thanks a lot ! (I've twitted you this morning). I am *really*
interested by this trend. Would you agree if we check again the stats
by the end of the year? It'll be very interesting to know what's going
on and what this means.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Please vote for LibreOffice if it is your favorite