[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Drew

Le 2011-05-12 01:16, drew a écrit :

Thanks for doing this Drew. I think we need to review all of the
marketing tools and add the scatter wherever we can. It just jazzes up
everything really well.

The only comments I have is p.1, 3rd panel The Multi-language office
suite for should be capitalized as it is a title and looks a little
unbalanced.
Would it be OK to put:

Multi-Language Office Suite for
Microsoft Window
Gnu/Linux
Mac OSX


Alright



This would give it a triangular shape, lead the reader to the bottom
LibreOffice logo and I think it would look nicer to the eye.

If we do this, then we would want to copy this list order on p.2, panel
1 and have:

MS Windows, Gnu/Linux, Mac OS X


and OK

There was also some feedback, via PM, from Tim - so here you go, with
all of the changes

http://lo-portal.us/temp/LibOPamphlet-may-11b.pdf


//drew




Great work! Reads well and looks great!

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I know Bsd is not hugely well-known as a desktop but apparently LibreOffice 
works on the Bsd distros too, not just Windows, Linux  Mac.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 10:23:26
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: 
Document Freedom Day Artwork)

Hi Drew

Le 2011-05-12 01:16, drew a écrit :
 Thanks for doing this Drew. I think we need to review all of the
 marketing tools and add the scatter wherever we can. It just jazzes up
 everything really well.

 The only comments I have is p.1, 3rd panel The Multi-language office
 suite for should be capitalized as it is a title and looks a little
 unbalanced.
 Would it be OK to put:

 Multi-Language Office Suite for
 Microsoft Window
 Gnu/Linux
 Mac OSX

 Alright


 This would give it a triangular shape, lead the reader to the bottom
 LibreOffice logo and I think it would look nicer to the eye.

 If we do this, then we would want to copy this list order on p.2, panel
 1 and have:

 MS Windows, Gnu/Linux, Mac OS X

 and OK

 There was also some feedback, via PM, from Tim - so here you go, with
 all of the changes

 http://lo-portal.us/temp/LibOPamphlet-may-11b.pdf


 //drew



Great work! Reads well and looks great!

Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-05-12 05:52, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)

I know Bsd is not hugely well-known as a desktop but apparently LibreOffice
works on the Bsd distros too, not just Windows, Linux  Mac.
Regards from
Tom :)



Are these officially supported? We should only mention officially 
supported platforms.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Hah, i can't find it in the downloads drop-down any-more.  I'm sure it was 
there 
quite recently.  There was documentation on how to install LibreOffice in Bsd 
somewhere in documentation.  Hopefully i might get time later to try to find 
it.  Note that no other Office Suite works on Bsd afaik so it would be quite 
sweet to acknowledge it.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 11:30:21
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: 
Document Freedom Day Artwork)

Le 2011-05-12 05:52, Tom Davies a écrit :
 Hi :)

 I know Bsd is not hugely well-known as a desktop but apparently LibreOffice
 works on the Bsd distros too, not just Windows, Linux  Mac.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Are these officially supported? We should only mention officially 
supported platforms.

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread C. Olofson

Hi Marc, Tom;

I don't mean to muddy the waters unnecessarily but, in the case of *BSD, 
support would be more likely coming from their end and not TDF's.  Also:


   * there are a lot of unrelated *BSD's (e.g. Free-, Open- and netBSD)
   * *BSD apps aren't (normally) distributed as pre-compiled packages
 but as source to compile
   * once an app is in the ports, it (normally) has a maintainer
 (IOW, is supported)
   * checking w/those projects will show whether LibO is supported

So, for example, to see whether an app is supported by FreeBSD, I

   * go to their central applications site: http://www.freshports.org
   * search on LibreOffice
   * find that 3.2.2 is the current ver and the maintainer is
 Baptiste Daroussin

I'm not as familiar with the other *BSD's but, if you want, I'll poke 
around to establish whether they are maintaining LibO and at what version.


hth,
-Craig

On 05/12/2011 04:05 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-05-12 06:45, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)

Hah, i can't find it in the downloads drop-down any-more.  I'm sure 
it was there
quite recently.  There was documentation on how to install 
LibreOffice in Bsd
somewhere in documentation.  Hopefully i might get time later to try 
to find
it.  Note that no other Office Suite works on Bsd afaik so it would 
be quite

sweet to acknowledge it.
Regards from
Tom :)

You may want to check on the dev list. If Bsd is officially supported, 
then we will make adjustments to our marketing materials. It would be 
nice if it were supported. AFAIK, there was talk of it on the dev list 
and some people got it to work, but then the threads just died out. 
Maybe there were problems with getting committed devs for BSD.


Cheers

Marc





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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim:

Le 2011-05-12 10:35, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :

So what would you add to this sample document that would reflect BSD, or
should it be kept the same?

http://libreoffice-na.us/dvd-insert-mine-sample.pdf

This is a sample of some of the text needed for an insert for the inside
of the DVD case for our distribution DVD of LibreOffice. We have a case
cover, a label, and now we are working on an inserted document for that
case.

I/we want to keep it simple to use and read. It is going to be read by
home and office users, tech people and general computer users. So it
must be easy to read and understand by the user that has the least
computer skills, who at least knows how to install their own software
and use a web browser.

We could make another document that is more tech oriented, and include
that as well, but it will need some warning label stating that this is
for those who need more technical information. BSD installation may be
something that would be in such a technical document, if someone knows
how to do such an install.




Unless we hear differently from our devs we should keep it off the 
marketing material. We need the dev support to trouble-shoot and if it 
isn't there, then, we are just creating a big headache for ourselves for 
nothing.


Tom -- could you check with the devs to see if it is supported?

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread C. Olofson

On 05/12/2011 07:35 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
So what would you add to this sample document that would reflect BSD, 
or should it be kept the same?


http://libreoffice-na.us/dvd-insert-mine-sample.pdf


The BSD entry is relatively odd (because the OS works with ports  
packages).  Happily, it makes for a briefer write-up.  Here's my stab at it.


*BSD *

   LibreOffice packages and ports are maintained by many BSD
   communities, including FreeBSD, OpenBSD and PC-BSD.  Please check
   with these communities and reference their respective repositories
   for further information on system requirements and installation
   instructions.

I can confirm that LibO is in the FreeBSD, OpenBSD and PC-BSD 
repositories.  These three represent the lion's share for desktop BSD.  
As a side note, Robert Nagy, who's involved in LibreOffice development, 
is also the port manager for OpenBSD.  They just interviewed him over at 
the TDF blog in January.*  If we need anything else for the insert with 
respect to *BSD, we can always contact him.


hope this helps,
-Craig
*http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/01/21/developer-interview-robert-nagy/

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-12 Thread Tom Davies






From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 22:33:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS 
Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

On 05/12/2011 10:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)

 Bsd tends (or was in the past) far to techie for most people so leaving it off
 our marketing materials would probably make no difference to most people.  
Lets
 face it, mostly people will only notice the Windows part and ignore the 
rest.


 It's even possible that seeing mention of the other operating systems, such as
 Mac, might scare them off.  Many computer shops only claim to be able to help
 Windows users but will often be happy to fix linux problems at a discount.  
They
 avoid mentioning that in their literature and advertising because it has been
 found to scare off Windows users.  Windows has a serious malware problems so
 people get scared easily.
That is why there will be a Windows-Only version as well, for those 
people we know that will only want or need to have a Windows version.

Malware issues - well that it why I have about 1/4 of my CPU power on my 
Vista laptop running security software.  Sometimes I use it to clean 
other people's drives by plugging in their drives a external ones.  I 
shocked an insurance guy when his tried to infect mine but could not and 
there were over 1,000 security issues on his laptop's drive.  It was 
much easier to do it that way than do all the work to get the software 
to work on his badly infected laptop.

That is one reason I now us Ubuntu as my default desktop computer and my 
laptop is now dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu.

 People that use Bsd will mostly be used to the idea that if something works in
 linux then the source code can probably be acquired easily and probably 
compiled
 in Bsd fairly easily.


 So, i am quite happy with the idea of leaving Bsd off the marketing materials
 but one day it would be nice if we could be open and proud of what our devs
 people such as Baptiste Daroussin have achieved.

 Regards from
 Tom :)


Never used BSD before, but someone told me that Mac used BSD as the 
starting point for OSX.

Well, it would be nice to not have to deal with it if we do not need to 
deal with it.

The less there is on the printed paperwork for people to deal with, the 
easier it could be do use.  I just wish that Linux would be easier to 
install software, like Windows with their .exe files.  Sometimes the 
.deb files are easy, but when you need to use the terminal for the 
install, like LibreOffice needs to, it is one more issue for people to 
not want to switch from Windows to Linux.

I wonder if there would be an easier way for Linux to be installed?  
Include a single deb file to be clicked on that would to the rest of the 
install automatically, like some executable script that can be run via a 
file navigation system and not need to be run in terminal?


HP now needs to have the drivers for its printers run the make 
utilities so that Ubuntu can use them.  But all you have to do is run 
the .run script and the rest is done for you.  I do not remember that 
was the case when I used Ubuntu 9.x 64-bit., or when I first used 10.04, 
but now it does.  I just wish we had a better driver for the graphics 
printing.



Hi :)
How about just putting a title BSD and say something vague and general such 
as 
System requirements are likely to be similar for other operating systems.  
Contact TDF directly or the operating system's technical support for details.. 
 
Obviously tech support = community forums and such like but the words tech 
support sound better to people that are not familiar with OpenSource systems.  
Details would need too much updating but a vague nudge in the right direction 
is 
likely to be more than enough.
Regards from
Tom :)
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-11 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-05-11 18:21, drew a écrit :

Hi Tim, others

Just to let you know - I've taken the tri-fold pamphlet you mention
there and reworked it, for the scatter branding. (That and I really did
not like the 'dental chart' on the inside..)

You can find the results here:
http://lo-portal.us/temp/LibOPamphlet-may-11a.pdf

(.odt is sitting next to it)

If I don't get any 'could you change' type feedback, then I'll go ahead
and push this to the wiki (pdf and odt)

Thanks

Drew






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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Simple general LibreOffice flyer (WAS Re: Document Freedom Day Artwork)

2011-05-11 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Drew et al

Sorry about the previous post. I hit the wrong button.

Le 2011-05-11 18:21, drew a écrit :

Hi Tim, others

Just to let you know - I've taken the tri-fold pamphlet you mention
there and reworked it, for the scatter branding. (That and I really did
not like the 'dental chart' on the inside..)

You can find the results here:
http://lo-portal.us/temp/LibOPamphlet-may-11a.pdf

(.odt is sitting next to it)

If I don't get any 'could you change' type feedback, then I'll go ahead
and push this to the wiki (pdf and odt)

Thanks

Drew




Thanks for doing this Drew. I think we need to review all of the 
marketing tools and add the scatter wherever we can. It just jazzes up 
everything really well.


The only comments I have is p.1, 3rd panel The Multi-language office 
suite for should be capitalized as it is a title and looks a little 
unbalanced. Would it be OK to put:


Multi-Language Office Suite for
Microsoft Window
Gnu/Linux
Mac OSX

This would give it a triangular shape, lead the reader to the bottom 
LibreOffice logo and I think it would look nicer to the eye.


If we do this, then we would want to copy this list order on p.2, panel 
1 and have:


MS Windows, Gnu/Linux, Mac OS X

Thanks for doing this.

Cheers

Marc


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