Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question

[Maggie Hanson]

Thanks so much, all! We really appreciate the additional perspective. 


-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi 
Raatz
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:41 AM
To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question

Hi Maggie,

I'd like to echo what Amalyah said so succinctly. Mia has had a terrific 
professional relationship with Bridgeman Images in place for ~5 years now.
They represent a selection of our museum's images and primarily assist us with 
requests for commercial uses of such. We regularly provide updated photography 
to Bridgeman to ensure that our collection is represented via quality images.

We also provide hi-res images directly (and freely) for educational, scholarly, 
research, non-commercial uses, including to the museum community for exhibition 
catalogues and support, monographs, catalogues raisonné, etc. People are free 
to download images directly from our Collection website and many of our works 
in the public domain have been shared openly elsewhere on the web (Wikimedia 
Commons for ex.).

As Amalyah mentions, image licensing can coexist with open access policies, and 
the revenue source is indeed helpful.

Best regards,
Heidi


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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:36:18 +0300
From: Amalyah Keshet 
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Haggie:

I've worked very successfully with Bridgeman for years. They are professional, 
friendly, and scrupulously copyright-conscious.

I suggest you contact them, explain the situation, get their side of the story, 
and yes definitely offer to provide better subsitute images.  This will most 
likely lead to their offering to set up a contractual arrangement to represent 
your museum's images, sharing revenue, and I can definitely recommend doing so. 
 It's a very comfortable additional revenue source. You can take it and develop 
the relationship from there.

n.b.  Image files -- the tools that are in demand for high-quality printing
-- can be provided, licensed, sold precisely as such: as high quality digital 
files.  This is separate from the underlying work of art that appears in the 
file; that work of art can be protected by copyright or it can be in the 
publilc domain.  Logically, the value or price of the tool/file is separate 
from that of the artist's copyright clearance, which may or not apply.  
Bridgeman takes care of clearing artists' copyrights if that part of the 
equation applies.  They also represent a large number of
artists:
http://www.bridgemanimages.com/en-GB/bridgeman-copyright-service

Good luck!

*Amalyah Keshet *
*Image Resources and Copyright Management, The Israel Museum, Jerusalem
(retired)*

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Heidi S. Raatz, MLIS
Visual Resources Librarian | Permissions Officer Minneapolis Institute of Art
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Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question

[Maggie Hanson]

Ha! 

Thanks so much for this, Nik! I do have your old blog post on hand for these 
conversations, as a matter of fact! Thanks for the reminder. 


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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:10 PM
To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
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Good luck… but I agree with Erik.

The more interesting question is, have they actually licensed any of your 
public domain images? If they have, please try and find out who and distribute 
to this list, I have some “property" they might be interested in…

Marginally more helpful, if you’re still wading through the internal 
discussions for this, might be this old post from my time at the Getty which 
talks about the process of getting to an open content policy by breaking up the 
(numerous) dimensions of what it means for an institution: 
https://recoveringtechnologist.com/2013/12/11/scripting-an-open-content-program/
 
<https://recoveringtechnologist.com/2013/12/11/scripting-an-open-content-program/>
-nik



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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Maggie Hanson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Erik -
> 
> We're kind of in-between right now. We're mostly operating with open 
> access mindset internally, but we don't yet have official 
> language/policies behind it. (We're working on that part . . . )
> 
> Providing Bridgeman with better images might be the best/easiest solution. 
> 
> Thanks for your feedback!
> Maggie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf 
> Of Erik Landsberg
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:50 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question
> 
> Hi Maggie,
> Not a lawyer, of course, but many museum have a "no commercial photography"' 
> notice in their literature, entrance info displays etc.
> Perhaps that would give you grounds for a takedown notice. Just a thought.
> But if PAM has a fully open access policy, would you consider just providing 
> Bridgeman with quality replacement images of those works? It would be a far 
> easier solution.
> -Erik
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Maggie Hanson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all -
>> 
>> This question recently came up in our registrars dept. and I thought 
>> I'd kick it out to MCN to see if anyone else has encountered this 
>> issue and might have guidance. We'd be most grateful for any insight.
>> Our rights specialist sent the following question to a registrars' 
>> list-serv and hasn't gotten much of a response:
>> 
>> "It has recently come to my attention that Bridgeman Images has been 
>> selling images from our museum's collection (about 17 of them). We do 
>> not have an agreement with them, and the images are poor quality. I 
>> contacted our counsel, and he seemed to state that because everything 
>> they have is in the public domain, we have no legal ground to stand 
>> on. That said, I think it would be reasonable to contact them and ask 
>> them to take the images down, especially since the images are of such 
>> poor quality. Has anyone else had this experience?"
>> 
>> It might be a non-starter since the underlying works in the images 
>> are public domain, but we thought it was worth asking colleagues. Any 
>> precedent would be useful. To be clear: this is not about us 
>> asserting rights, just about wanting to disseminate better images of 
>> the works in our collection (esp. when we'd provide better images for free!).
>> 
>> Thanks, all! See you in Pittsburgh!
>> Maggie
>> 
>> 
>> Maggie Hanson
>> Head of Library and Collections Information Portland Art Museum
>> 503-276-4224 | direct
>> portlandartmuseum.org
>> 
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Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question

[Maggie Hanson]

Thanks, Erik -

We're kind of in-between right now. We're mostly operating with open access 
mindset internally, but we don't yet have official language/policies behind it. 
(We're working on that part . . . )

Providing Bridgeman with better images might be the best/easiest solution. 

Thanks for your feedback!
Maggie


-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Erik 
Landsberg
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:50 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question

Hi Maggie,
Not a lawyer, of course, but many museum have a "no commercial photography"' 
notice in their literature, entrance info displays etc.
Perhaps that would give you grounds for a takedown notice. Just a thought.
But if PAM has a fully open access policy, would you consider just providing 
Bridgeman with quality replacement images of those works? It would be a far 
easier solution.
-Erik


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Maggie Hanson 
wrote:

> Hi, all -
>
> This question recently came up in our registrars dept. and I thought 
> I'd kick it out to MCN to see if anyone else has encountered this 
> issue and might have guidance. We'd be most grateful for any insight. 
> Our rights specialist sent the following question to a registrars' 
> list-serv and hasn't gotten much of a response:
>
> "It has recently come to my attention that Bridgeman Images has been 
> selling images from our museum's collection (about 17 of them). We do 
> not have an agreement with them, and the images are poor quality. I 
> contacted our counsel, and he seemed to state that because everything 
> they have is in the public domain, we have no legal ground to stand 
> on. That said, I think it would be reasonable to contact them and ask 
> them to take the images down, especially since the images are of such 
> poor quality. Has anyone else had this experience?"
>
> It might be a non-starter since the underlying works in the images are 
> public domain, but we thought it was worth asking colleagues. Any 
> precedent would be useful. To be clear: this is not about us asserting 
> rights, just about wanting to disseminate better images of the works 
> in our collection (esp. when we'd provide better images for free!).
>
> Thanks, all! See you in Pittsburgh!
> Maggie
>
>
> Maggie Hanson
> Head of Library and Collections Information Portland Art Museum
> 503-276-4224 | direct
> portlandartmuseum.org
>
>
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[MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all -

This question recently came up in our registrars dept. and I thought I'd kick 
it out to MCN to see if anyone else has encountered this issue and might have 
guidance. We'd be most grateful for any insight. Our rights specialist sent the 
following question to a registrars' list-serv and hasn't gotten much of a 
response:

"It has recently come to my attention that Bridgeman Images has been selling 
images from our museum's collection (about 17 of them). We do not have an 
agreement with them, and the images are poor quality. I contacted our counsel, 
and he seemed to state that because everything they have is in the public 
domain, we have no legal ground to stand on. That said, I think it would be 
reasonable to contact them and ask them to take the images down, especially 
since the images are of such poor quality. Has anyone else had this experience?"

It might be a non-starter since the underlying works in the images are public 
domain, but we thought it was worth asking colleagues. Any precedent would be 
useful. To be clear: this is not about us asserting rights, just about wanting 
to disseminate better images of the works in our collection (esp. when we'd 
provide better images for free!).

Thanks, all! See you in Pittsburgh!
Maggie


Maggie Hanson
Head of Library and Collections Information
Portland Art Museum
503-276-4224 | direct
portlandartmuseum.org

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[MCN-L] DAM position available - Portland Art Museum (OR)

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all! We're looking for a new Digital Assets Manager here at the Portland 
Art Museum in Portland, Oregon! The DAM is a vital team member of the Library 
and Collections Information Department, which is a highly energetic, fun, 
good-humored group (not that I'm biased...). Our team works closely together to 
provide information access services to the Museum and its patrons.

The DAM position is FT (30 hours a week) with a full benefits package. Feel 
free to contact me with any questions. More details and application available 
here: https://pamcareers.hyrell.com/UI/Views/Applicant/VirtualStepCareers.aspx

Cheers!
Maggie


Maggie Hanson
Head of Library and Collections Information
Portland Art Museum
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portlandartmuseum.org

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Re: [MCN-L] LAM interoperability SIG?

[Maggie Hanson]

I'm also interested! We've just merged our Collections Information Department 
with the Library and Archives and a SIG or panel discussion is something we'd 
be happy to join!

Maggie


From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] on behalf of David Newbury 
[david.newb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:30 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Cc: mcn-l@mcn.edu; Niki Krause; David Wilcox
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] LAM interoperability SIG?

I’d certainly be interested in talking more about that—the Carnegie Museums 
have been working and talking about archive and collection integration for the 
past year, and we’ve also had some early conversations about integration with 
both our internal library and our sister institution, the Carnegie Library.


—
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On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Stefano Cossu  wrote:

> Hello,
> It was exciting to host a lively conversation at the last MCN conference
> about Libraries, Archives and Museums (topics: [1]; slides: [2]). I am
> happy to see that many colleagues are interested in tearing down the
> barriers between bibliographical, archival and collection records within
> museums, as well as promoting the exchange of information and
> technologies between Cultural Heritage institutions.
> I think the session sparked quite some interest and raised important
> topics from many of the participants. I also believe that this
> conversation needs to be brought forward.
> This mailing list may be a good place to follow up that conversation. I
> would love to propose a similar session for next MCN, actually even
> closer to a round-table discussion than to a panel.
> If enough people are interested, I would also propose to create a
> special interest group for this topic. Goal of the SIG would be torefine
> the core topics that we brought up at the conference using this mailing
> list, and then meet in person at the next MCN with a distilled down list
> of action items.
> Anyone interested in this proposal is welcome to respond.
> Thanks,
> Stefano
> [1] http://sched.co/3tND
> [2]
> http://www.slideshare.net/StefanoCossu/librarries-archives-museums-discussion-mcn-2015
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Re: [MCN-L] Online Collections Tagging

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, Margaret!

The Portland Art Museum has been doing materials, subject, geographic, etc. 
layers of cataloging on our collection for about five years, using a 
combination of AAT, TGN, Iconclass, and home-grown thesauri. I'd be happy to 
chat with you!

Maggie



From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] on behalf of Sternbergh, 
Margaret [msternbe...@mfah.org]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:51 AM
To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
Subject: [MCN-L] Online Collections Tagging

Having recently made our collections available online for viewing and 
searching, we are beginning to determine next steps to make the database more 
useful. One priority is tagging the collection for context (style, art 
movement, etc), material (wood, metal, etc) and other useful searchable terms. 
We'd like to learn from other institutions who have recently embarked on such a 
project. If you have undertaken a tagging project and would be available to 
answer a few questions of from our registration team, please be in touch.

Thanks!
Margaret

Margaret Sternbergh

Manager of Gallery Interpretation
The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston
P.O. Box 6826
Houston, Texas 77265-6826
713.639.7749
msternbe...@mfah.org

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[MCN-L] Job Opportunity - Librarian/Archivist - Portland Art Museum (OR)

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, folks! The Portland Art Museum (Portland, OR) is currently seeking 
candidates for a FT Librarian/Archivist. The listing is posted online 
here<https://pamcareers.hyrell.com/UI/Views/Applicant/VirtualStepCareers.aspx>.

Cheers!
Maggie


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[MCN-L] Current OCR Software Recommendations

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all -

We have a few projects right now that are great candidates for OCR. We
haven't done anything with OCR at the Museum yet and past threads on the
MCN-L archives are a bit outdated so I thought I'd kick off a new thread
for tips or recommendations. I know there are several free options
available, but I'd love a thumbs up from a trusted colleague on one over
the other. Our needs at this juncture are very basic; I don't anticipate
needing any bells or whistles.

Thanks a bunch!
Maggie
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[MCN-L] Job Opportunity: IT Manager at Portland Art Museum (OR)

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all! The Portland Art Museum (Portland, OR) has another exciting job
opportunity to announce: Manager of Information Technology. You can read
more about the position and apply online:

http://bit.ly/1ph5OFx

Cheers!
Maggie
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[MCN-L] Job Opportunity: Digital Assets Manager (Portland Art Museum, OR)

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all! We are looking for a new Digital Assets Manager to join the
Digital Art Access team at the Portland Art Museum in sunny (sometimes!)
Portland, OR!


Reporting to the Collections Information Manager, the Digital Assets
Manager (DAM) oversees the day-to-day administration of an enterprise-level
digital asset management system (DAMS). In this position you will organize,
describe, and disseminate digital assets that relate to our encyclopedic
collection of almost 50,000 works of art. Working collaboratively with
interdepartmental team members, you will develop and support sustainable
practices around the digital asset lifecycle to ensure the long-term
availability and integrity of a wide variety of assets.

To learn more about the position and to apply:

https://pamcareers.hyrell.com/VirtualStepPositionDetails.aspx?TemplateId=42694


Thanks! I look forward to seeing everyone in Dallas!

Maggie


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[MCN-L] Data Retention Policies?

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all -
Our Museum is starting to think about a formal data retention policy (or at
least some guidelines). Would anyone be willing to share any documentation?
I'd appreciate anything I can share with our group about what is working
for other museums. Thanks!
Maggie

[MCN-L] Blackbaud + third party collections sites

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all -
Does anyone currently have a main museum website built and hosted by
Blackbaud with a third party built and hosted collections website? I'd love
to chat with anyone who has any experience in this situation or anything
similar.
Thanks!
Maggie

[MCN-L] Digital correspondence related to collections

[Maggie Hanson]

Hello, everyone -
We've been discussing the implications of digital records management for
collections-related correspondence (mostly email) and I'm interested in how
other museums currently manage this sort of archival material (beyond
storing paper copies in doc files). I'd love to hear from anyone who is
willing to share current processes, tips, and success stories. I'm also
interested to know which departments own this project at other museums
and/or how departments collaborate where it comes to the work involved.
Any guidance will be much appreciated. Thank you!
Maggie

[MCN-L] Standards SIG @ MCN SIG Unluncheon/Unmeeting

[Maggie Hanson]

Hi, all!

I'd like to add the *Standards SIG* to the list of Unluncheon adverts.
Anyone who is interested should join us for a discussion at the
Unluncheon/Unmeeting on Friday the 18th from 12:45-2:00pm at Max Lager's.
We're open to discussing any topics of interest, as well as the future of
the group and how we should proceed (what people want, what is most useful,
etc.). We are also looking for a chair or co-chairs for the Standards SIG;
if you're interested in getting more involved, this is a great way to do
it!

Come ready to chat about anything that interests you! Hope to see you there!

Maggie Hanson
Collections Information Manager
Portland Art Museum
maggie.hanson at pam.org
twitter | @PDXCollections

[MCN-L] Period/Era/Dynasty controlled lists

[Maggie Hanson]

Hello, all -
Our curators are interested in starting to record period information more
extensively in our CMS.  Our Asian curatorial department uses this field
religiously, but use is patchy across other departments.  I'd like to see a
few examples of lists used at other institutions as we design our own
controlled vocab.  We'll be applying AAT terms as keywords to object
records, but can't link directly to the thesaurus through our Period field.
We'll probably end up basing our list closely on the Styles and Periods
facet in AAT so that it corresponds with keywords, but I would like to see a
few different examples.  I'd sincerely appreciate any examples that anyone
is willing to share!
Thanks so much!
Maggie Hanson

Collections Information Manager
Portland Art Museum
maggie.hanson at pam.org
@PDXCollections <http://www.twitter.com/pdxcollections>

[MCN-L] Online Collections Publication

[Maggie Hanson]

(*I apologize if anyone has already received this message.  I'm having
trouble with my subscription so I'm trying from a different email address!*)

Hi, all!

We are in the nascent stages of publishing museum objects online.  I?ve
recently had a few staff members ask questions and raise concerns about
online publication hurting exhibition catalog sales (and that general idea).
 This is an old concern that I know has been disputed and calmed over the
past decade or so, but it?s a new concept/process for some of our staff.
 I?d like to share some examples or refer concerned parties to statistics
that show that online publication of collections has been shown to *increase
* attendance and sales.  I know that there are good quotes in the *LA Art
Online* report; can anyone point me toward other reports, stats, or personal
anecdotes that I could share?  Thanks so much!

Maggie



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[MCN-L] Publishing didactic information online

[Maggie Hanson]

(Has anyone else had trouble getting messages through to MCN-L?  Please
forgive if this has come to you already, but I've been having problems and
I'm trying to post from a different email account.)



Hello, all ?

We (The Portland Art Museum, OR) have recently begun publishing works online
(www.pamcollections.org).  We?re in the very early stages of this process
and hope to begin some web development on the collections site in the near
future.  In the meanwhile, I?m trying to address some issues that we
*can *control.
 One of these is the publishing of didactics (mostly wall labels, at this
point) in individual records.  I know that the process varies from
institution to institution and I would love to learn more about how other
museums process this info to get it online so that I can share examples with
our Education and Curatorial departments (I know how the Getty operates, but
don?t have any other specific examples yet).  If anyone can shed light on
this topic (share guidelines or even just point me in the right direction),
I?d be very grateful!

Thanks so much,

Maggie Hanson

[MCN-L] Job Announcement

[Maggie Hanson]

Apologies about the faulty attachment re: Digital Assets Manager
position.  Please visit our website instead, just to be on the safe
side: www.portlandartmuseum.org/join/careers

Thanks again!
Maggie

-Original Message-

Hello, all!  Sorry about the cross-posting, but I have an exciting job
opportunity to share.  The Portland Art Museum is currently looking for
a Digital Assets Manager for a one-year grant funded project.  I've
attached the job description.

Thanks!

Maggie

[MCN-L] Job Announcement

[Maggie Hanson]

Hello, all!  Sorry about the cross-posting, but I have an exciting job
opportunity to share.  The Portland Art Museum is currently looking for
a Digital Assets Manager for a one-year grant funded project.  I've
attached the job description.

Thanks!

Maggie

[MCN-L] Rapid Imaging Project - sustainability

[Maggie Hanson]

I'd like to thank everyone for the advice and guidance given so far to
the questions I've posed.  We have, since my last posting, decided to
move forward with digital photography.  We're now in the process of
researching digital asset management software (Extensis Portfolio -
comments/warnings/blessings welcome!) and considering the Rapid Imaging
Project model for in-house photography.  Unfortunately (as can be
expected), we have limited resources to allocate to the talent needed to
project manage this particular venture.  I'd be interested in hearing
about how other institutions in our position have planned for the
sustainability of projects like this.  We'd like to have workflows in
place so that we can continue this work (photography, ingestion and
output of assets with a DAMS) beyond the end of our grant.  I would be
very interested in hearing from anyone who has gone through a similar
process and might have wisdom to share.  I'm also curious to hear from
anyone who is at a museum/institution that is not using a DAMS--what is
your workflow like and how are you currently managing/controlling your
assets?

 

Whew!  Thanks so much everyone; your input is greatly appreciated.

Maggie

 

Maggie Hanson

Collections Information Manager

Portland Art Museum

1219 SW Park Ave. 

Portland, OR 97205

 

T: +1 503 276 4224

F: +1 503 276 4201

E: maggie.hanson at pam.org

 

[MCN-L] General photography question

[Maggie Hanson]

Thanks, everyone!  All of this input is so appreciated!

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Faith McClellan
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:45 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] General photography question

Hi Maggie,

I agree with Del, in fact some of the photographers I work with no
longer offer 4x5 as an option, due to the expense and difficulty of
getting the film.  If possible I have found that it is really helpful to
setup a laptop to look at the images while they are being shot.  We did
this on the last big publication project I worked on, and noticed some
pretty strong color differences while shooting between the digital image
and the actual work. The photographer was able to color correct on site
while looking at the work in front of him.  The result was the most
color accurate publication I had worked on to date, much better than
some past projects that came from scans of 4x5s.  

Regards,
Faith


Faith McClellan, Registrar
Grounds For Sculpture
609 586-0616 ext. 18  Cell:609 209-7170
18 Fairgrounds Road, Hamilton, NJ 08619
fmcclellan at groundsforsculpture.org
 
www.groundsforsculpture.org
http://ebrochure.hawthornpublications.com/go/groundsforsculpture
 


-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Zogg, Del
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:16 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] General photography question

This may be a problem for a lot of people and organization in the near
future.

I would say that most of the professional photographers are now working
in digital format. Film is a medium that has outlived its usefulness. In
addition to often being stored badly, because it costs too much to store
color transparencies properly, they take up space.

Digital files, while seemingly only a few gigs of storage, also have an
inherent cost. The cost of the equipment to store them on, plus the
migration of images from format to format as thechnolgy evolves.

Just a few words on a much more involeved topic.


Del Zogg 
Manager, 
Works on Paper Study Center:
Collections Manager, Works on Paper + Photographs 
Museum of Fine Arts, Houston 
P.O. Box 6826 
Houston, Texas 77265-6826 
(713) 639-7352 
(713) 639-7399 (fax) 
dzogg at mfah.org 



-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Maggie Hanson
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:52 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] General photography question

Hello, all!  We are in the process of deciding how we want to proceed
with our professional photography.  Up until now, we've mostly had our
photography done on film (4x5 transparencies).  Occasionally, we'll get
digital photos taken, but the standard so far has been transparencies.
I've heard varying opinions on the validity of film, its advantages and
disadvantages, etc. and I wanted to cast a net and see if I can get a
broader perspective.  Has everyone gone completely digital at this
point?  Is anyone still using film for the majority of their
photography?  Are people using a combination of the two?  For us, the
cost is relatively equal (although the growing demand for digital images
will increase our operating budget for scanning equipment if we stick
with film, etc.) and there are clear preservation/migration issues
either way we go.  I'd love to hear any stories (good experiences and
bad) that might give us a little more information before we move forward
in the decision making process.  Thanks, everyone!

Maggie

 

Maggie Hanson

Collections Information Manager

Portland Art Museum

1219 SW Park Ave. 

Portland, OR 97205

 

T: +1 503 276 4224

F: +1 503 276 4201

E: maggie.hanson at pam.org

 

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[MCN-L] General photography question

[Maggie Hanson]

Hello, all!  We are in the process of deciding how we want to proceed
with our professional photography.  Up until now, we've mostly had our
photography done on film (4x5 transparencies).  Occasionally, we'll get
digital photos taken, but the standard so far has been transparencies.
I've heard varying opinions on the validity of film, its advantages and
disadvantages, etc. and I wanted to cast a net and see if I can get a
broader perspective.  Has everyone gone completely digital at this
point?  Is anyone still using film for the majority of their
photography?  Are people using a combination of the two?  For us, the
cost is relatively equal (although the growing demand for digital images
will increase our operating budget for scanning equipment if we stick
with film, etc.) and there are clear preservation/migration issues
either way we go.  I'd love to hear any stories (good experiences and
bad) that might give us a little more information before we move forward
in the decision making process.  Thanks, everyone!

Maggie

 

Maggie Hanson

Collections Information Manager

Portland Art Museum

1219 SW Park Ave. 

Portland, OR 97205

 

T: +1 503 276 4224

F: +1 503 276 4201

E: maggie.hanson at pam.org

 

[MCN-L] Database access for curators?

[Maggie Hanson]

Thanks, Gabriela.  This is a concern as well as the fact that
"corrections" in many instances included deleting prior information,
which may be needed and useful for records in departments like the
registrar even if the information is not necessarily (or any longer)
correct.

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
Gabriela Zoller
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:48 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Database access for curators?

"Checking the corrections of the curatorial staff" might refer to making
sure that the information they enter is properly formatted / uses
controlled vocabulary terms, etc. -- not checking the veracity of the
information itself, but making sure it is formatted consistently with
database standards.

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu]On Behalf Of
Robert Mason
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:35 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Database access for curators?


I'd be interested to know what "approval" is needed by db staff to
"check" the "corrections" of the curatorial staff. It is the curatorial
staff that are experts on the collection, not necessarily the db staff.
 
M.
 
_
Dr. Robert B. J. Mason (E-mail: robert.mason at rom.on.ca; fax (416)
586-5877)
Dept of World Cultures, Royal Ontario Museum, 100 Queen's Park, Toronto,
Ontario, M5S 2C6, CANADA
Associate Professor, Near and Middle Eastern Civilizations, University
of Toronto, 4 Bancroft Avenue, Toronto, Ontario, M5S 1C1, CANADA
web: http://www.utoronto.ca/nmc/mason/mason.html 

>>> Perian Sully  6/23/2010 1:35 PM >>>
Hi Maggie:

I don't know if Mimsy has workflow capabilities, but some systems allow
you
to be notified of changes or let you see/approve the changes before they
become live.

Barring that, I've also instructed my curators to place the original
information into a notes field before they delete it entirely (but I
also
have backups to refer to, in a worst case scenario).

~Perian
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[MCN-L] Database access for curators?

[Maggie Hanson]

Hello all!  I'm new to the network and have a couple of questions to ask
the greater group.  I've just started a new position as the Collections
Information Manager at the Portland Art Museum and in the first few
weeks, I've encountered what I think is probably a very common problem.
We use MimsyXG for our collections database and all of our curators have
access to it, but are currently only able to enter/change information in
the Description field.  I've been approached by curators who would like
greater freedom to add information and "correct" information in the
database, but know that that can be a major risk.  I'd love to hear how
other institutions navigate this issue and what fields curators in your
institutions have permission to use/access.  If you do give curators
access to more fields, how are you monitoring/auditing the changes that
are made?  I'd be interested to see some policies or guidelines that
anyone has been using in this sort of scenario.

Any input will be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!

Maggie

 

Maggie Hanson

Collections Information Manager

Portland Art Museum

1219 SW Park Ave. 

Portland, OR 97205

 

T: +1 503 276 4224

F: +1 503 276 4201

E: maggie.hanson at pam.org