[MBZ] Cost of a Paint Job
Anything about these old cars that you can not accomplish yourself is seldom cost-effective. High skill tasks associated with restoration can bring mucho joy to the owner but he MUST be ready,willing and able to pay the price. If the price to too dear, one must learn to do with less that excellent. Plan on pretty darn good. That can satisfy most of us. It is often much better than what the guy next door has. Cheers Bill Aston Fort Lauderdale 1983 380SEC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 8/7/2005
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't seem to find the article on the procedure describing how small-handed individuals could R/R a broken center dash vent servo in a 123 300D, CD or TD without needing to completely take apart the entire dash. IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw. Dan Penoff described such a procedure as I recall. I'll look and see if I can find a copy. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] R-12
Dave M. wrote: Despite 'only' some 17 states making it illegal, it's illegal to use any flammable refrigerant in a motor vehicle in the United States, if that motor vehicle's AC system originally contained R-12. (Don't ask me why they'll allow it to replace R-134a in the 33 other states, if the car originally had 134a - seems bizarre to me.) That includes Duracool, btw. But hey, don't take my word for it... read it here as part of the EPA test study guide: But it IS legal to change a system that has already been converted to R-134a to the flammable refrigerants according to EPA. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] clock stopped
redghost wrote: Marshall is biting his tongue, or he has me on ignore Fuse Doh Loose screws holding the instrument cluster together OR a poor gound connection can cause the clock to stop. So can a marginal pair of electrolytic capacitors in the clock mechanism. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] clock stopped
I have a few of the marginal capacitor clocks. I guess I should find a source for fresh ones and replace them. I rebuilt the cluster with working speedo and oil gauge to go along with the clock. Did a dot of paint on the screws, still there. The multimeter found continuity where it needed. Just the standard poor quality fuses, which are fresh again. On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 04:31 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: redghost wrote: Marshall is biting his tongue, or he has me on ignore Fuse Doh Loose screws holding the instrument cluster together OR a poor gound connection can cause the clock to stop. So can a marginal pair of electrolytic capacitors in the clock mechanism. Marshall -- -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't seem to find the article on the procedure describing how small-handed individuals could R/R a broken center dash vent servo in a 123 300D, CD or TD without needing to completely take apart the entire dash. IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw. This is the post I recall: The vacuum actuator is in front (forward) of the center vents. In other words it's between the vents and the firewall, making access to it nearly impossible short of pulling the dash pad. I tried it from both sides, with the cluster removed and from the glovebox hole. No deal. I'm open to suggestions (other than my pencil prop). Dan Penoff Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
And this one: The rubber cover between the center vent and the box??? Can you or anyone else expand on that? I was just in there and don't recall seeing anything that helps me understand where you are headed there. I'm sure if I take a second look it will clear up, but more info would be very welcome. The duct between the air box and the vents is actually a rectangular shape. It's connected between the two by a rubber sleeve that you can carefully push back out of the way to gain access to the area where the lever is. When you say box do you mean the evaporator box? Where the coil is?? I should ask, where is the servo? Is it below the vent? Behind it? Off to the right/left? You can *almost* get to this area by removing the glove compartment liner and going in from that direction. I've replaced the vacuum actuator this way, but I don't advise it for the faint of heart or the large of hand. I still have the scars to prove it. I was being stubborn because I was absolutely NOT going to RR the dash pad to get to the actuator. I'll poke my head in there this evening and see what happens. It will make sense once you get a look at things. Dan Penoff -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
[MBZ] this is very strange
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-S600-Great-shape-Coupe-needs-work-NR-s500-s430-s600-v12_W0QQitemZ4566177936QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Seat issue//86' 300sdl
wow! must be the right season to fix stuff!!...seat switch was blowing fuses...went thru several from boneyard that didn't work fully (word is that the '86 switch with memory was upgraded continually and so i needed the exact year)...got it today and it blew fuse in some functions, got frustrated and replaced fuse with a real chunk of wire,... gracious, they're motors after all)...well, everything worked except the function that raises the seat back from a rather relaxed position to the possibility of driving the rascal! so...my back window got fixed last week...the AC is now cold...but if i sit in my seat, i see the slight dirtiness of the 20 year old sunroof!... so...remove the seat and look for short, etc?...or remove seat and charge the motor so seat changes?...or maybe something in the door? i'm hoping i can look back on this soon... please offer respectfull shame(the wire)...and any series of procedure that might get the seatback at least up again... thanx john
[MBZ] real cheap 126
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-500SEL-126-chasis-115k-miles_W0QQitemZ7990330628QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Seat issue//86' 300sdl
sounds like you have a wire or motor shorted out. JJJ wrote: wow! must be the right season to fix stuff!!...seat switch was blowing fuses...went thru several from boneyard that didn't work fully (word is that the '86 switch with memory was upgraded continually and so i needed the exact year)...got it today and it blew fuse in some functions, got frustrated and replaced fuse with a real chunk of wire,... gracious, they're motors after all)...well, everything worked except the function that raises the seat back from a rather relaxed position to the possibility of driving the rascal! so...my back window got fixed last week...the AC is now cold...but if i sit in my seat, i see the slight dirtiness of the 20 year old sunroof!... so...remove the seat and look for short, etc?...or remove seat and charge the motor so seat changes?...or maybe something in the door? i'm hoping i can look back on this soon... please offer respectfull shame(the wire)...and any series of procedure that might get the seatback at least up again... thanx john ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] OT grammar corrections was: Modulator blues
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:06:27 -0400 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tou che = What we respond to witty listers who always have the bons mots at their fingertips. No, no. That's when you have two Marxist Revolutionaries. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Seat issue//86' 300sdl
yeah...where would you look first???
Re: [MBZ] Seat issue//86' 300sdl
Im no electrical wiz, I hate it in fact. I would just check to see if you have a hole rubbed thru one of the wires under the seat. Im sure others can point you in the right direction as well. JJJ wrote: yeah...where would you look first??? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] 2 for 1 126
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-Two-Mercedes-420-SEL-Dirt-Cheap-Must-Sell_W0QQitemZ4566754271QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Seat issue//86' 300sdl
as i remember, to get the seat off, roll it foreward, undo the rear rail bolts...roll it backward after undoing the seatbelt...get a friend in the back seat to help move that heavy rascal...sound right?
[MBZ] 140 600SEL
who on here has one of these beasts? EPA says mileage is 11 city 15 highway. Thats only 2mpg less than the 4.2 v-8. Hmm. A dude I know is selling his for 12.5k, only has 67k miles, VERY nice car. Was looking at it a while back(before he was selling it) and he says you have to remove the air box etc and a bunch of crap on the drivers side of the engine compartment to get to the oil filter. Anyways, whats the deal with this V-12 motor? Any trouble with them? Seems I have heard of trouble but cant think of anything specific. I would REALLY love to buy this thing if I can come up with some cash. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Seat issue//86' 300sdl
yea, sounds right. JJJ wrote: as i remember, to get the seat off, roll it foreward, undo the rear rail bolts...roll it backward after undoing the seatbelt...get a friend in the back seat to help move that heavy rascal...sound right? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
its a 92 btw Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: who on here has one of these beasts? EPA says mileage is 11 city 15 highway. Thats only 2mpg less than the 4.2 v-8. Hmm. A dude I know is selling his for 12.5k, only has 67k miles, VERY nice car. Was looking at it a while back(before he was selling it) and he says you have to remove the air box etc and a bunch of crap on the drivers side of the engine compartment to get to the oil filter. Anyways, whats the deal with this V-12 motor? Any trouble with them? Seems I have heard of trouble but cant think of anything specific. I would REALLY love to buy this thing if I can come up with some cash. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Any trouble with them? IIRC, saying a 600 Limo (6.3 V8) requires the resources of a small country to keep roadworthy is like saying a V12 600 requires the resources of a medium sized country. Besides, who wants to pay 20 cents per mile for fuel?
Re: [MBZ] real cheap 126
On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 05:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Seller didn't say where kid was now residing.. 500SEL 115k miles original European model was spun on the freeway by my kid, front damage http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-500SEL-126-chasis- 115k-miles_W0QQitemZ7990330628QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD..
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
yea, true, but its not much worse than the 4.2, at least according to the epa website. I just find that hard to believe though. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Any trouble with them? IIRC, saying a 600 Limo (6.3 V8) requires the resources of a small country to keep roadworthy is like saying a V12 600 requires the resources of a medium sized country. Besides, who wants to pay 20 cents per mile for fuel? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] this is very strange
Happy bidding?? Whom is he kidding? There's gotta be a story here... and it won't be a happy one. On 8/8/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-S600-Great-shape-Coupe-needs-work-NR-s500-s430-s600-v12_W0QQitemZ4566177936QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] this is very strange
amen andrew strasfogel wrote: Happy bidding?? Whom is he kidding? There's gotta be a story here... and it won't be a happy one. On 8/8/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-S600-Great-shape-Coupe-needs-work-NR-s500-s430-s600-v12_W0QQitemZ4566177936QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he says you have to remove the air box etc and a bunch of crap on the drivers side of the engine compartment to get to the oil filter. Anyways, whats the deal with this V-12 motor? Any trouble with them? Seems I have heard of trouble but cant think of anything specific. I would REALLY love to buy this thing if I can come up with some cash. With less than 70k I wouldn't imagine you'd have much trouble. Heck, with a V12 I'd count myself lucky if ALL I had to remove was an airbox and some other small stuff to get to the oil filter. Like you'd be putting many miles on a V12? You might only have to change the oil once a year anyway. mac
Re: [MBZ] R- 12 this will actually help ppl
OK PPL here I go if any body is interested you can make a compressor from junk that will give good( actually great) service ( you must have gages or at least 1 hose to connect to the system about $15.00 firstly the concept of using engine vacuum to evacuate an air conditioner system is ridiculous ... it aint going to work .. )in short what you are doing when a system is evacuated is 1 removing noncondensible gasses 2 boiling off water vapor 3 and checking for leaks to do this the right way you need 28 actually 29 or more inches of mercury I usually do this for at least 1 hour... unplug my compressor and check the gauges if the system holds vacuum ..add freon now here is what you need an old refrigerator motor( this is a compressor its usually big black and makes the characteristic humming sound we are all familiar with) however a air conditioner dehumidifier or water cooler will do the same any thing that has a compressor in it will work 1 remove the compressor its usually bolted in there will be 2 lines commeing out of the compressor one is a high side the other is a low side now cut the lines useing a tubing cutter so you will have a clean cut you want maybe 3 or 4 inches of line on the compressor if you have used a air conditioner there usually wires going to a capacitor this looks like a oval metal can with wires going to it leave the wires connected and where the wires come out of the unit use the appliances electrical cord and plug reconnecting them using wire nuts and electrical tape so far you have spent nothing well sorry I forgot the tubing cutter available at home depot a small one should be under 10.00 now go to any air conditioner supply house _http://corporate.johnstonesupply.com/_ (http://corporate.johnstonesupply.com/) take the compressor with you ,and get a solder tee ( these range in price se ...$5.84 to $16.29... )that will fit those nice clean cut tubes on the unit and solder the tee on the suction side only!!! use one do not close ,crimp or shut off the pressure side ... now you have a vacuum pump that will work just fine and it cost nothing PS a plastic milk crate works just fine to carry this in ... go get em mike collins phila 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] OT grammar corrections was: Modulator blues
groan On 8/8/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:06:27 -0400 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tou che = What we respond to witty listers who always have the bons mots at their fingertips. No, no. That's when you have two Marxist Revolutionaries. Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. - LT Don 1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 1972 Honda CB-500K
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
I suspect that Regina could rack up some serious miles in a year in that car -- and love every mile! I also thiink Kaleb had better start stockiing up on V12 parts cars real soon! On 8/8/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he says you have to remove the air box etc and a bunch of crap on the drivers side of the engine compartment to get to the oil filter. Anyways, whats the deal with this V-12 motor? Any trouble with them? Seems I have heard of trouble but cant think of anything specific. I would REALLY love to buy this thing if I can come up with some cash. With less than 70k I wouldn't imagine you'd have much trouble. Heck, with a V12 I'd count myself lucky if ALL I had to remove was an airbox and some other small stuff to get to the oil filter. Like you'd be putting many miles on a V12? You might only have to change the oil once a year anyway. mac -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Well it would be for regina to drive, but she doesnt really drive that many miles I dont guess. Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he says you have to remove the air box etc and a bunch of crap on the drivers side of the engine compartment to get to the oil filter. Anyways, whats the deal with this V-12 motor? Any trouble with them? Seems I have heard of trouble but cant think of anything specific. I would REALLY love to buy this thing if I can come up with some cash. With less than 70k I wouldn't imagine you'd have much trouble. Heck, with a V12 I'd count myself lucky if ALL I had to remove was an airbox and some other small stuff to get to the oil filter. Like you'd be putting many miles on a V12? You might only have to change the oil once a year anyway. mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
What will $5K get ya nowadays? Redhead's Plymouth Breeze is in need of more work than it's worth, and she commutes 70 miles a day. We're not going to take out a loan to buy a car so the cap is about $5K. less would be much better. Safety, Fuel economy, reliability without much maintenance, and drivability are the key shopping points. Early C classes are starting to fall into this price range, although I doubt they're reliable at that price. late 80's, early 90's E classes are right about there. Subaru Legacy / Outback are great AWD contenders. 90's Accord / Camry are boring as anything but easy to find. She wants an airbag, AC, automatic, and ABS. That's really all she requires as features. She doesn't mind riding in my 123, but has no interest in driving a diesel, or any car requiring a ritual to start it or turn it off. any opinions? -Rob York PA
[MBZ] Ya'll keep busting these?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I5101249B -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Kaleb, The M120 motor is very closely related to both the M119 and the M104, I believe. It's a pretty solid engine mechanically... but electrically, well, all the M119/M104 problems apply - wiring harnesses, EZL failure (ok, that's not real common), TBA (that's more common), etc. There are two of everything on the V-12... two TBA's, two EZLs, etc, IIRC. Gobs and gobs of power though. If the airbox is anything like the M119, it just pops off in a few seconds of tugging - no big deal. Nice design, actually. As to the comparison to the old 600 limo, I think it's warranted but not apples to apples. The old 600 limo requires the resources of a medium-size country with lots and lots of oil reserves in their deserts. You have *got* to be certifiable to own one of those things. Now the W140, with any engine, merely requires the resources of a large city, perhaps a small state. If you intend to do DIY work, you either need the WIS or that new service DVD (they'll have the same info but in different format I think), and the patience of Job to try and troubleshoot anything (or just to learn how to navigate the WIS!). Parts cost, well, let's just say Rusty will be sending you more than just a card come Xmas. ;-) If you get it, Kaleb, you need to get some fat 18 AMG or tuner (Brabus, Lorinser, etc) wheels on there to complete the look! Definitely a sweet ride if you can afford it. I bet the cruise works quite nicely at the 155mph governor. :-) -dm -- Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:12:36 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Any trouble with them? IIRC, saying a 600 Limo (6.3 V8) requires the resources of a small country to keep roadworthy is like saying a V12 600 requires the resources of a medium sized country. Besides, who wants to pay 20 cents per mile for fuel?
[MBZ] Back on the 'net
I'm finally back on the Internet, after my cross-country move from Ann Arbor, MI to Auburn, WA. The trip went smoothly. The only Mercedes sighting of note was a very clean-looking Unimog I saw making stately progress along I-94, near Miles City, Montana. It's good to be back online. You don't realize how dependent you are on the Internet for looking up things like addresses until you don't have it for a while.
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
David, Welcome to the soviet socialist republic of washington. The Governor is a whore, the county executive is a great example of why affirmative action is a failure, and the diesel benz are plenty and cheap On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 08:01 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: I'm finally back on the Internet, after my cross-country move from Ann Arbor, MI to Auburn, WA. The trip went smoothly. The only Mercedes sighting of note was a very clean-looking Unimog I saw making stately progress along I-94, near Miles City, Montana. It's good to be back online. You don't realize how dependent you are on the Internet for looking up things like addresses until you don't have it for a while. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Ya'll keep busting these?
Clay, This bracket used to break quite often... The rear leg. I bought a new one from a stealership and under their policy parts were covered for a year. I went back and got two new ones within that year. But, it's been quite a while since one broke A coupla' years. Drilled a hole in the air cleaner where it is closest to the valve cover and put one of the bumpers that split (the fat side) in and attached it w/a 10mm nut from the inside of the air cleaner... No problemo! I still have one in the box that Jim Friesen welded back together for me... Just in case! There's a more descriptive explanation out there somewhere Mighta' been Randy Durance that came up w/this answer. Take care, Chuck 1980 300SD Phoenix, AZ On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 07:49 PM, redghost wrote: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I5101249B -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
Cool - the world's first self-smoking beehive! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I sold my 82 MB240D back in January of this year on e-bay. It was sold as a parts car for a little over $100 and was paid for. I agreed at the time that the car could stay here until good weather came. Now 7 months later I have a lawn ornament full of bees, no way to contact the buyer and a desire to burn up about 100 gallons of WVO I have in the barn. I really don't know what to do. I feel like the car is mine after it being so long with no contact at all from the buyer and I still hold the title in my name. I explained to him that I didn't want it sitting in my yard for the summer or I wouldn't have put it on e-bay. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks for any input, Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
Kaleb, This is an invitation if I ever heard one!!! Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 08:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I sold my 82 MB240D back in January of this year on e-bay. It was sold as a parts car for a little over $100 and was paid for. I agreed at the time that the car could stay here until good weather came. Now 7 months later I have a lawn ornament full of bees, no way to contact the buyer and a desire to burn up about 100 gallons of WVO I have in the barn. I really don't know what to do. I feel like the car is mine after it being so long with no contact at all from the buyer and I still hold the title in my name. I explained to him that I didn't want it sitting in my yard for the summer or I wouldn't have put it on e-bay. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks for any input, Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
Relist the car. If the original buyer ever contacts you send his money back (minus the bee removal fee). On 8/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I sold my 82 MB240D back in January of this year on e-bay. It was sold as a parts car for a little over $100 and was paid for. I agreed at the time that the car could stay here until good weather came. Now 7 months later I have a lawn ornament full of bees, no way to contact the buyer and a desire to burn up about 100 gallons of WVO I have in the barn. I really don't know what to do. I feel like the car is mine after it being so long with no contact at all from the buyer and I still hold the title in my name. I explained to him that I didn't want it sitting in my yard for the summer or I wouldn't have put it on e-bay. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks for any input, Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
capacitor. On 8/8/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're moving a magnet through a coil (or the other way around) to generate the electricity (in cse you ahdn't figured that out already). I don't remember how they store the electricity. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] 603 block in chi town
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G5602149B -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
In a message dated 8/8/2005 11:52:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Relist the car. If the original buyer ever contacts you send his money back (minus the bee removal fee). I am alergic to beesThe fee could get pretty high really quickLOL, MIke
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours? On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, LT Don wrote: capacitor. On 8/8/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're moving a magnet through a coil (or the other way around) to generate the electricity (in cse you ahdn't figured that out already). I don't remember how they store the electricity. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
And don't forget to deduct your ebay selling expenses, both from when you sold it to him and for the relist. DG --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/8/2005 11:52:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Relist the car. If the original buyer ever contacts you send his money back (minus the bee removal fee). I am alergic to beesThe fee could get pretty high really quickLOL, MIke ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:02:37 -0500 (CDT) John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours? A good capacitor, yes. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
I didn't buy it did I? wasn't this that rather nice looking (for $100) blue 240D? was it automatic or stick? -Sealover On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 11:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I sold my 82 MB240D back in January of this year on e-bay. It was sold as a parts car for a little over $100 and was paid for. I agreed at the time that the car could stay here until good weather came. Now 7 months later I have a lawn ornament full of bees, no way to contact the buyer and a desire to burn up about 100 gallons of WVO I have in the barn. I really don't know what to do. I feel like the car is mine after it being so long with no contact at all from the buyer and I still hold the title in my name. I explained to him that I didn't want it sitting in my yard for the summer or I wouldn't have put it on e-bay. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks for any input, Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:02:37 -0500 (CDT) John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours? A good capacitor, yes. Hrmm... good to know!
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
Where is it located? On 8/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/8/2005 11:52:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Relist the car. If the original buyer ever contacts you send his money back (minus the bee removal fee). I am alergic to beesThe fee could get pretty high really quickLOL, MIke ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
some hold a charge for more like 9 years. ask someone who has taken an old TV apart. i have some big ones in a drawer. technicians play little jokes on each other by charging them up and throwing them to unsuspecting coworkers. think fast BZZ heh. Fun project for the evening: try making a tazer out of a disposable camera. (hint: flash circuit!) -Sealover On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 12:13 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:02:37 -0500 (CDT) John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours? A good capacitor, yes. Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
Yes. Longer than that. There was a trick the instructors at the Coast Guard avionics school used to do that involved a coil from a Model A (I think), a hand crank and a large radar capacitor. I never experienced it but saw some who did. It was reserved for the smart asses of the class. On 8/8/05, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours? On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, LT Don wrote: capacitor. On 8/8/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're moving a magnet through a coil (or the other way around) to generate the electricity (in cse you ahdn't figured that out already). I don't remember how they store the electricity. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Rob S. wrote: some hold a charge for more like 9 years. Wow, I've only worked with electrolytic (and we all know that is an ideal capacitor ;) and a few of the other small types (ceramic, etc)... neat to know that 9 years is possible! John
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
David, please disregard what my good friend Clay wrote (he's not feeling well) and welcome to the People's Republic of Cascadia. We aren't very friendly, but we do tolerate a fair number of fine European machinery out here--enjoy! On 8/8/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, Welcome to the soviet socialist republic of washington. The Governor is a whore, the county executive is a great example of why affirmative action is a failure, and the diesel benz are plenty and cheap Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (206k) '84 300D (202k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Rob, No contest... late 80's, early 90's E-class (W124 chassis). You can even get AWD if you can find a 4Matic that had the transaxle replaced. I'd shoot for a 1990 300D 2.5T, the only 'ritual' is waiting a few seconds for the glow light on a cold start. Hard to argue with 30-34mpg and all the Mercedes features...! (OK, ok, I am a wee bit biased... I have three W124's plus one parts car and there are 2 others in my family.) Although I might get flamed for this, I'm not a big fan of Camrys or similar recycled beer cans... economical and reliable yes, safe in a major crash, no. That's one of the major reasons I drive Mercedes... anything short of a ready-mix truck with 12 yards of concrete on board, and the odds are heavily in your favor! I kind of like Subaru (especially the WRX STi) but I don't think they fare much better in the crash survival metric. :-) Dave M. Boise, ID -- Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 22:39:35 -0400 From: Rob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT) What will $5K get ya nowadays? Redhead's Plymouth Breeze is in need of more work than it's worth, and she commutes 70 miles a day. We're not going to take out a loan to buy a car so the cap is about $5K. less would be much better. Safety, Fuel economy, reliability without much maintenance, and drivability are the key shopping points. Early C classes are starting to fall into this price range, although I doubt they're reliable at that price. late 80's, early 90's E classes are right about there. Subaru Legacy / Outback are great AWD contenders. 90's Accord / Camry are boring as anything but easy to find. She wants an airbag, AC, automatic, and ABS. That's really all she requires as features. She doesn't mind riding in my 123, but has no interest in driving a diesel, or any car requiring a ritual to start it or turn it off. any opinions? -Rob York PA
[MBZ] 140 600SEL
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:04:59 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 140 600SEL who on here has one of these beasts? EPA says mileage is 11 city 15 highway. Thats only 2mpg less than the 4.2 v-8. Hmm. A dude I know is selling his for 12.5k, only has 67k miles, VERY nice car. Kaleb, You did not mention what color combination the car is! Thank you, Omar.
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:59 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 050808 2.407 2.386 2.492 2.484 2.334 2.336 2.323 2.486 2.801 2.943 050801 2.348 2.356 2.488 2.465 2.297 2.292 2.279 2.421 2.594 2.657 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287 2.413 2.382 2.234 2.230 2.231 2.371 2.549 2.570 050418 2.259 2.260 2.418 2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 041206 2.069 2.111 2.234 2.220 2.053 2.033 1.995 2.124 2.181 2.225 041129 2.116 2.141 2.258 2.252 2.082 2.086 2.053 2.171 2.233 2.287 041122 2.116 2.143 2.258 2.251 2.086 2.083 2.048 2.170 2.242 2.299 041115 2.132 2.159 2.268 2.262 2.105 2.096 2.056 2.215 2.274 2.336 041108 2.163 2.182 2.296 2.278 2.130 2.123 2.096 2.248 2.324 2.386 041101 2.206 2.212 2.330 2.307 2.161 2.172 2.147 2.276 2.370 2.431 041025 2.212 2.213 2.329 2.309 2.161 2.185 2.144 2.278 2.380 2.437 041018 2.180 2.179
[MBZ] diesel prices
Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607
[MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
Dave mentioned that changing the Delivery Seals may repair my pump.
Is that in the POS manual? Parts Tool from my usual Source {Rusty
or Salvation Army Thrift Shop}
I will be trying to advance the idle screw clockwise tonight per
Marshal's suggestion.
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 229 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 188 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Gary, good luck on the auction. I hope it goes well for you. Looks like the car I should be buying for my 15 3/4 y/o son, but the wife wouldn't see eye-to-eye with me on it and I don't want to use the political capital required to win the decision. IYKWIM. ;-) ...Kevin 87 300TD 275.8k mi Schisler, Gary said: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1979-Mercedes-24 0D-diesel_W0QQitemZ4567424013QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Listing my 79 240D on eBay. Come one, come all. Bid high! ;) Gary ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
IYKWIM ???
Re: [MBZ] Cost of a Paint Job: 2'nd Quote: $4.5K
Sorry.I forgot to include the 2'nd price $4.5K. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
Its still burning after two nights, about 32 hours now. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours?
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
What Dave said -- - On 8/9/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, No contest... late 80's, early 90's E-class (W124 chassis). You can even get AWD if you can find a 4Matic that had the transaxle replaced. I'd shoot for a 1990 300D 2.5T, the only 'ritual' is waiting a few seconds for the glow light on a cold start. Hard to argue with 30-34mpg and all the Mercedes features...! (OK, ok, I am a wee bit biased... I have three W124's plus one parts car and there are 2 others in my family.) Although I might get flamed for this, I'm not a big fan of Camrys or similar recycled beer cans... economical and reliable yes, safe in a major crash, no. That's one of the major reasons I drive Mercedes... anything short of a ready-mix truck with 12 yards of concrete on board, and the odds are heavily in your favor! I kind of like Subaru (especially the WRX STi) but I don't think they fare much better in the crash survival metric. :-) Dave M. Boise, ID -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Diesel and unleaded are the same price here now - $2.21/gal. First time I've seen that in a long time. On 8/9/05, Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com http://www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com http://www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
you mean even more than in the SDL? OK Don wrote: I'm betting that she would find a lot more houses to show driving the 600SEL -- -- -- and she could do it in record time! On 8/8/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it would be for regina to drive, but she doesnt really drive that many miles I dont guess. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
put it back on ebay. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I sold my 82 MB240D back in January of this year on e-bay. It was sold as a parts car for a little over $100 and was paid for. I agreed at the time that the car could stay here until good weather came. Now 7 months later I have a lawn ornament full of bees, no way to contact the buyer and a desire to burn up about 100 gallons of WVO I have in the barn. I really don't know what to do. I feel like the car is mine after it being so long with no contact at all from the buyer and I still hold the title in my name. I explained to him that I didn't want it sitting in my yard for the summer or I wouldn't have put it on e-bay. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks for any input, Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
Well he never said where he was located Chuck Landenberger wrote: Kaleb, This is an invitation if I ever heard one!!! Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 08:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I sold my 82 MB240D back in January of this year on e-bay. It was sold as a parts car for a little over $100 and was paid for. I agreed at the time that the car could stay here until good weather came. Now 7 months later I have a lawn ornament full of bees, no way to contact the buyer and a desire to burn up about 100 gallons of WVO I have in the barn. I really don't know what to do. I feel like the car is mine after it being so long with no contact at all from the buyer and I still hold the title in my name. I explained to him that I didn't want it sitting in my yard for the summer or I wouldn't have put it on e-bay. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks for any input, Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
it bordeaux red with camel Kayoooh wrote: Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:04:59 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 140 600SEL who on here has one of these beasts? EPA says mileage is 11 city 15 highway. Thats only 2mpg less than the 4.2 v-8. Hmm. A dude I know is selling his for 12.5k, only has 67k miles, VERY nice car. Kaleb, You did not mention what color combination the car is! Thank you, Omar. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I have noticed for short periods diesel has been less than gas, it only lasts a day or 2 though. Rick Hawkins wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
huh? Schisler, Gary wrote: IYKWIM ??? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
1 out of 3 ain't bad --R redghost wrote: David, Welcome to the soviet socialist republic of washington. The Governor is a whore, the county executive is a great example of why affirmative action is a failure, and the diesel benz are plenty and cheap On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 08:01 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: I'm finally back on the Internet, after my cross-country move from Ann Arbor, MI to Auburn, WA. The trip went smoothly. The only Mercedes sighting of note was a very clean-looking Unimog I saw making stately progress along I-94, near Miles City, Montana. It's good to be back online. You don't realize how dependent you are on the Internet for looking up things like addresses until you don't have it for a while. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] clock stopped
I'm a senior tech for a company that makes video editing software, recently I've been supervising some kids working for us at an outsource company in Canada. The hardest thing has been teaching them to look at the simple stuff first. Just yesterday one of them was trying to help a guy figure out why his fonts didn't work. After working on it for 15 minutes he finally asked me, I had him check the fonts folder... Gee the fonts he wants aren't there, shocker. -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:51:48 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clock stopped To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Marshall is biting his tongue, or he has me on ignore Fuse Doh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Hi Gary, No I won't be bidding but I thought I asked anyway, is that some sort of leak in the first picture or the remains of a car washing job? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Schisler, Gary To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1979-Mercedes-240D-diesel_W0QQitemZ4567424013QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Listing my 79 240D on eBay. Come one, come all. Bid high! ;) Gary -- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 4/08/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
In a message dated 8/9/2005 12:14:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would a cap hold a charge for 9 hours? A good capacitor, yes. A good capacitor, if left unbridged, will actually pick up a static charge from the atmosphere. Be careful using large onesThey can be quite dangerous if you were to touch both leads. Mike
Re: [MBZ] FW: [DIESEL] W123 center vent actuator RR instructions
Thanks!!- Will whoever has the spare parts please email me privately? Andrew On 8/8/05, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just the messenger here, Chuck; wanted to make sure that I had saved it somewhere. Thank Spud and those who provided him guidance. joe On 8/8/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Priceless! ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
In a message dated 8/9/2005 12:31:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is it located? Upstate NY. Mike
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Good luck, though it seems a little pricey since it has neither PW nor a sunroof. On 8/9/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, No I won't be bidding but I thought I asked anyway, is that some sort of leak in the first picture or the remains of a car washing job? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Schisler, Gary To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1979-Mercedes-240D-diesel_W0QQitemZ4567424013QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Listing my 79 240D on eBay. Come one, come all. Bid high! ;) Gary ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 4/08/2005 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
In a message dated 8/9/2005 12:33:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Model A (I think), Model T coils were very good for these type of pranks. They are housed in a wooden box. Mike
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
The sort of personality that likes the 240D (such as mine) prefers to have as little power equipment as possible, since that is only one more item to break and need replacement. Or at least that is how I feel. On 8/9/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck, though it seems a little pricey since it has neither PW nor a sunroof. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] OT A find
Igniter coil from an oil burner. Kinda heavy but give a good voltage kick. You can make one of those things from the old monster movies with them, the thing with the two vertical rods angled a bit to each other, with the spark traveling up between them. I think they are called a Jacob's Ladder. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/9/2005 12:33:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Model A (I think), Model T coils were very good for these type of pranks. They are housed in a wooden box. Mike ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Seat motor question
as reported yesterday, one of my seat motors quit...i messed with it untill i had reclined the seat back fully, making the car very hard to drive... if i can't find something obvious after removing this heavy lounger, how might i bypass the switch to get the seat back up? are both leads to the switch hot? (one up, one down)
[MBZ] New Mexico 300SEL - CL
To all Craigslist Phoenix for 8/9/05 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/89894895.html Classic Mercedes 1971, 300 SEL, Daily Driver, Always Garaged, 3.5L - $4000
Re: [MBZ] Seat motor question
Could be the motor, could be the switch or could be the fuse. Operate the up switch while pulling up on the back of the seat - you might get lucky. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJ Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:31 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Seat motor question as reported yesterday, one of my seat motors quit...i messed with it untill i had reclined the seat back fully, making the car very hard to drive... if i can't find something obvious after removing this heavy lounger, how might i bypass the switch to get the seat back up? are both leads to the switch hot? (one up, one down)
Re: [MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
Not to dispute anything Marshall has said, but I did replace the seals o-rings on the albatross's pump when a couple of them started leaking after it'd been sitting idle for 6-8 weeks. Replacement did cure that problem. Per Marshall's suggestion, I would rule out everything else first, but if you do decide to do this, you'll want to torque the fittings using the specs in the TDM rather than the fsm; just ask for this if you decide to go ahead. Have you tried cracking the injection lines one by one with the engine idling in an attempt to isolate the problem to one or more cylinders? Don't remember if you've definitively ruled out a balky injector. joe
Re: [MBZ] euro question
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Got a 84 300D euro. It appears to have the same tranny setup as the turbos do, is this correct? 123 Euro 300Ds used 722.1 (early) or 722.4 (late) series transmissions, 300D turbos used 722.3 series transmissions (except the '85 California certified 300D turbos that used a 722.4 tranny). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Seat motor question
argggh! '86 300sdl so far, the switch seems good i've removed the frame bolts in order to remove the seat...it's too heavy and so i took the bolts out of the rails, except one...there are 4 corner bolts on top, then there is a sneaker underneath in the middle of the rail-you take it out from below...that rail's loose,but...how to get to the one that must be on the other side??
Re: [MBZ] One last question on blue smoke before I commit to the valve seals..
Kevin J. Slater wrote: Folks, I figured I'd ask one last time before I commit to replacing the valve stem seals on my 300TD's OM603. To recap, the symptoms are: - Blue smoke when pulling away from a stop after the engine warms up. - Amount of smoke seems to grow with length of time spent idling. - Very little or no blue smoke during starting after sitting overnight. (I don't notice it when backing out of the garage/driveway.) - Off odor burning smell in the exhaust. (Keeps people off the bumper though!) Marshall and Dave M have both given invaluable input into the situation. What I'm wondering is, could this be something else? Some folks seem to mention the turbo; which may be easier to service than the replacing the stem seals with the head on the motor? Any input welcome and appreciated. ...Kevin 87 300TD 275.8k mi (and pissing off 'environmentalists' everywhere it goes..) The blue smoke could be from the valve stems/seals or any other point of access to the air ingested. This is a RARE symptom. I would disconnect the breather line from the valve cover to the air intake, do a few hard acceleration runs to clear out any possible oil accumulation in the air intake path and then see if the blue smoke is diminished. If there is NO change you can certainly try new seals as that seems to be the next logical step, but except for Dave's case (where the seal - perhaps an incorrect one - was improperly installed) new seals seldom corrects oil consumption problems on diesels. Still, the replacement of the seals DID cure Dave's problem. The VERY early stages of a blown head gasket (between the #1 cylinder and the oil passage next to the chain vault) can produce symptoms not unlike what you describe (the phrase, (o)ff odor burning smell in the exhaust describes the smell from the exhaust from my 601 engine with the blown head gasket). As it gets worse the smoke gets worse and whiter and oil consumption increases - mine reached a qt/200 miles before I finally replaced the head gasket! Are you SURE that the air filter and air intake is unrestricted?? When was the air cleaner changed? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL/ bordeaux red and camel
In a message dated 8/9/2005 6:02:56 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it bordeaux red with camel Man, these are my favorite colors!! Pretty rare combo. Buy it! Run it 'till it dies and then make a road side sculpture out of it. Gas costs will be the least of your expenses. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Odometer Question
Joe Knight wrote: The odometer is purely mechanical in your car, Dan. No electrics involved, except for lighting. That's not to say it mightn't have malfunctioned at some point. Without very complete service records and a pretty good knowledge of the vehicle's history I don't know how you'd go about ascertaining that. joe What Joe said AND: The odometer can be fail so it doesn't register - perhaps for years and then be repaired (often a simple repair) and pick up right where it stopped (years or days or weeks ago). That's why a CarFax check CAN provide a clue as to use - that should match the pattern of use the seller describes. Of course the previous owner might well have slipped in a replacement speedometer. I've done that on several cars - not to distort mileage but because it was less expensive then repairing the original speedometer. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
[MBZ] Car advice
Fellow Listers, A customer of mine is seeking a car to use for his traveling sales job. He averages 60,000 miles/year. He was thinking of rebuilding a 300sd w126 for this, but the cost of doing so has him thinking of moving into something else or at least a far nicer example. Does anyone have any recommendations of what would be an ideal car for him to use? A later w126 perchance? Also, does anyone have a car for sale that would be up to this sort of use? He would like to find a car that would last him for 3-4 years (200k miles plus) at a minimum without having to perform major repairs. His budget limits him to under $10k. Ideally he will stay with a diesel due to fuel costs. TIA. Regards, Mathieu
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Today, both gas and diesel are about $3.00/gal., here in San Diego's North County. Jerry Ö¿Ö ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:03 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices I have noticed for short periods diesel has been less than gas, it only lasts a day or 2 though. Rick Hawkins wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607
Re: [MBZ] Seat motor question
You might be in luck, sort of. Looks like the seat back motor the headrest motor might be accessible by removing the panelling on the back of the seat which you should be able to do in situ. Don't know how similar the 126 seat is to my 124, but mine looked like somebody had kludzed in a replacement motor with the seat still installed. There was some very sloppy uninsulated soldering done to the wiring right near that motor. With the seat out it would've been about as easy to replace the motor with its harness. joe On 8/9/05, JJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: argggh! '86 300sdl so far, the switch seems good i've removed the frame bolts in order to remove the seat...it's too heavy and so i took the bolts out of the rails, except one...there are 4 corner bolts on top, then there is a sneaker underneath in the middle of the rail-you take it out from below...that rail's loose,but...how to get to the one that must be on the other side??
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: who on here has one of these beasts? EPA says mileage is 11 city 15 highway. Thats only 2mpg less than the 4.2 v-8. Hmm. A dude I know is selling his for 12.5k, only has 67k miles, VERY nice car. Was looking at it a while back(before he was selling it) and he says you have to remove the air box etc and a bunch of crap on the drivers side of the engine compartment to get to the oil filter. Anyways, whats the deal with this V-12 motor? Any trouble with them? Seems I have heard of trouble but cant think of anything specific. I would REALLY love to buy this thing if I can come up with some cash. I know of an estimate to replace the wiring harness in either an SL600 or SEL -damaged by installation of an aftermarket alarm system. The dealer wanted $17,000 for the job and said it COULD be more! My mechanic did a preliminary estimate and said it could be a LOT more! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Seat motor question
gotta go to work...i'll look for that motor...the headrest goes up and down and the seat goes foreward and back...it's just the pesky angle of the seat right now...
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Let me clarify, the fellow is looking at w126 and w124 cars. He does not want a w123 or anything earlier. Anything newer would likely be out of his price range. Personally, I think a 300D 2.5 would be the ideal car. Now, to only find a nice, low mile example. Mathieu At 12:21 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: No. At 12:15 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Wouldn't Gary's 240D do the job and be fairly economical? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Fellow Listers, A customer of mine is seeking a car to use for his traveling sales job. He averages 60,000 miles/year. He was thinking of rebuilding a 300sd w126 for this, but the cost of doing so has him thinking of moving into something else or at least a far nicer example. Does anyone have any recommendations of what would be an ideal car for him to use? A later w126 perchance? Also, does anyone have a car for sale that would be up to this sort of use? He would like to find a car that would last him for 3-4 years (200k miles plus) at a minimum without having to perform major repairs. His budget limits him to under $10k. Ideally he will stay with a diesel due to fuel costs. TIA. A 124 300D 2.5 or E300D (90 thru '95) in good shape could be ideal. The 124 is a LOVELY car to drive on the highway and 30+ mpg of the 602.96 or 606.91 engines are easily attainable (36 mpg is possible under good conditions). In high mileage situations and highway driving 350-500kmi lifespans with FEW problems are very common. These cars are usually quite affordable. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Kaleb, EZL is the electronic ignition module/brain. On the M119 cars, they're about $3k new, very hard to find used, and $750-$1000 used. Not a common failure but I heard of several in the V8 community in the past year or two. It's the kind of thing you keep your eyes out for and grab a spare if you spot one on eBay for a few hundred bucks. One lucky guy scored a spare for $300, I would have been all OVER that if I had seen it. The TBA is Throttle Body Actuator, the electronic throttle body widget that has a motor that opens closes the throttle butterflies (it's all electronic on this engine, remember). That's not as bad, maybe $1k each, but they're also known to have a limited life span. The previous owner of my E500 replaced this before I bought it, and mine was a 94 with only 90kmi. I think it's a wiring failure, so a car from a hot area (Phoenix, Sacramento, etc) may have more issues like this but I'm not sure about that. Don't forget the timing chain rails, if the rails start to come apart, the cost to replace is ginormous, as the whole front of the motor has to come off (and maybe the heads or lower oil pan too). The chains usually last 150kmi or so before they stretch enough to change, and that's more complex than a diesel chain replacement, but it's the rails that you don't want to mess with. VERY hard to tell if the rails are OK other than pulling the lower pan and inspecting for big chunks of debris (AFAIK). :-) -dm -- Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:49:27 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL what is ezl and tba?
Re: [MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
One tiny adjustment... the torque range neeed is, I believe, 30-40Nm,
not lb-ft... make sure you use the proper setting on your wrench.
Over-torquing can damage the pump. The torque procedure is listed in
the TDM (Tech Data Manual), not the normal service manual (don't ask
me why).
:-)
-dm
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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 09:58:49 -0400
From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
Peter Arnold wrote:
Dave mentioned that changing the Delivery Seals may repair my pump.
Is that in the POS manual? Parts Tool from my usual Source {Rusty
or Salvation Army Thrift Shop}
I will be trying to advance the idle screw clockwise tonight per
Marshal's suggestion.
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Delivery valve seals will NOT fix a problem with idle speed adjustment
Replacing delivery valve seals is RARELY needed, but IF required,
nothing else will solve the problem. Maybe 1-2% of Mercedes injection
pumps require them during their lifetime. There is really NO reliable
test of delivery valve seals except with the pump on a test stand. It is
probably wise to replace the pump seals IF you're going to replace the
O rings on the delivery valve pipe fittings as the seals are
inexpensive, but it's rarely actually necessary. The only reason to
replace the seals is if there is uneven delivery from the IP to the
injectors. My very crude test of delivery seals is to remove all the
injection lines and crank the engine while watching what comes out of
the pipe fittings - each should deliver about the same amount of fuel. A
really proper test (the way it would be done on a test stand) would
measure the output and pressure of each port during some number of
revolutions of the pump - each should deliver about the same amount of fuel.
When playing with the injection pump a little finesse and care is
required. The pump body is quite easy to distort if anything is
overtightened (usually repaired by loosening and retightening using
the proper torque/release technique as outlined in the Tech Data
Manual), or a little too much force on a wrench CAN crack the housing
and if that happens a new pump is the only solution.
I do NOT recommend people trying to tune up their injection pump as
injection pumps rarely fail, do NOT routinely drift out of adjustment
and about 90-95% of all injection pump problems occur right AFTER the
pump has been adjusted. Only if all of the injectors have been TESTED
and shown to be working PERFECTLY but fuel delivery still seems uneven
is there sufficient justification to even consider playing with the
delivery valve seals (in MY opinion). Get half a dozen new seals AND O
rings (and several spare O rings as it's easy to damage one or more
when installing the delivery valve fittings). Oil the O ring when
installing it. You'll need the splined socket and a torque wrench
accurate in the 30-40 lb-ft range. The fittings CAN be removed with the
intake manifold in place (but it's a little tight).
Worth checking the engine manual.
http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Engine/602_603/07.1-8627.pdf
Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Marshall, Any thoughts about this one? TIA. http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1702159Bhttp://makeashorterlink.com/?A1702159B Mathieu A 124 300D 2.5 or E300D (90 thru '95) in good shape could be ideal. The 124 is a LOVELY car to drive on the highway and 30+ mpg of the 602.96 or 606.91 engines are easily attainable (36 mpg is possible under good conditions). In high mileage situations and highway driving 350-500kmi lifespans with FEW problems are very common. These cars are usually quite affordable. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Hi Mathieu, For driving 60kmi per year, I would want something with good MPG, unless the company is paying for it. I would strongly lean torwards a 1990-93 300D 2.5T in excellent condition and fairly low miles (low 100's). They should be plentiful in that price range. If he needs the extra room of an S-class, I'd go with the 300SDL. I would not want an OM617, he'd be doing valve adjustments every few months... ;-) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:54:06 -0400 From: Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Car advice Fellow Listers, A customer of mine is seeking a car to use for his traveling sales job. He averages 60,000 miles/year. He was thinking of rebuilding a 300sd w126 for this, but the cost of doing so has him thinking of moving into something else or at least a far nicer example. Does anyone have any recommendations of what would be an ideal car for him to use? A later w126 perchance? Also, does anyone have a car for sale that would be up to this sort of use? He would like to find a car that would last him for 3-4 years (200k miles plus) at a minimum without having to perform major repairs. His budget limits him to under $10k. Ideally he will stay with a diesel due to fuel costs. TIA. Regards, Mathieu
Re: [MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
Peter,
Could you remind us again what the exact symptoms are, and if it
started suddenly or gradually?
:-)
-Dave M.
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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 05:57:31 -0400
From: Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
Dave mentioned that changing the Delivery Seals may repair my pump.
Is that in the POS manual? Parts Tool from my usual Source {Rusty
or Salvation Army Thrift Shop}
I will be trying to advance the idle screw clockwise tonight per
Marshal's suggestion.
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Peter T. Arnold
Re: [MBZ] I/P Delivery Seals
With a fairly short torque wrench and by removing the windshield washer reservoir it is quite possible to do this procedure w/o removing the intake. btdt. joe On 8/9/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One tiny adjustment... the torque range neeed is, I believe, 30-40Nm, not lb-ft... make sure you use the proper setting on your wrench. Over-torquing can damage the pump. The torque procedure is listed in the TDM (Tech Data Manual), not the normal service manual (don't ask me why).
