Re: [MBZ] Parallel Park

[TimothyPilgrim]

Nice parking. Horrible html!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/20/05, Darrell W. Sigmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now this is how you save time and get the space you wanted...
> 
> DWS

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[LT Don]

IF Kleb were to split things (and I'd recommend we don't) then I'd
recommend that the current diesel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) stay AS IS
and those who want to talk only about cars get their own little lists
to exchange automotive ideas. It could be further subdivided --
DieselOnly, GasserOnly, Red190EsOnly, etc.

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[OK Don]

I vote for the combined list, since I was subscribed to several of
them before, now I only have to read one to get everything.


-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] replacing glow plugs on a 603

[OK Don]

OK -- the nuts on my '87 are captive. I was preparing for the worst,
when I discovered that they were captive, to my great joy.

My meaning was that I would replace all  other gaskets. Te valve cover
gasket is the only one I'd plan on re-using. Now I've re-used other
gasket due emergency situations (such as lack of proper planning), but
I don't plan it that way.

On 8/20/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Early OM60x engines did NOT have captive glow plug nuts. I was pleased
> when Mercedes changed to captive nuts UNTIL I discovered (don't ask HOW
> I discovered this) that the captive nuts on the later cars CAN and DO
> liberate themselves (always at the worst possible time - and the
> liberated nut falls into the bottomless pit on the engine side of the
> injection pump). Try sometime to buy a replacement "captive nut" from
> Mercedes!! Only available as part of the complete wiring harness.
> 
> You can reuse the gasket on the crossover pipe to the intake manifold
> several times with a little luck. Why would anyone remove the valve
> cover to replace glow plugs??
> 
> Marshall

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[Chuck Landenberger]

Brian,

Where in Arizona are you?  In and around Phoenix

Might be a reason for a mini-list Fest  :>)

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1980 300SD

On Aug 20, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Brian Chase wrote:


Listers,

A basic question, so bear with me.

I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty  
well when I

left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage.

Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left  
it, and I
don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say  
I'm not

pleased with my brother.

Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs  
down to
the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the  
battery

right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while
cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new.

So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had  
run it out
of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom,  
i.e. the

engine being tight, but not siezed yet?

Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools  
at my

disposal.

Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me  
back to

MN. WE.

Brian
83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit!

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Re: [MBZ] cheap CD

[Chuck Landenberger]

Remember the old proven truth...  Ain't nuthin' more expensive  
than a cheap Mercedes


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
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Mercedes-Benz-300CD-TURBO-DIESEL-2-door- 
coupe_W0QQitemZ4568863657QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[Mitch Haley]

Brian Chase wrote:
> Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to
> the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery
> right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while
> cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new.

Could be low state of charge on the battery. How many months has it
been running the clock since it was last fully charged?
Is at rest voltage 12.6 or so, or is it more like 12.0?

Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[redghost]

If this is old tech camera and only has the red/yellow/white output,  
you may need to get a breakout box digitizer to hook to that will dump 
it into your USB or Firewire port.  For some more $$, but probably way 
cheap on evilBay you can snag a card (matrox or some such) that will 
fit in the peecee and let you suck data in.


Last option, get a Mac 6400 with the video input/tuner/media card, 
CDRW, and upgraded to G3/400.  All you have to do is just hook the 
camcorder to the box and make lots of nice Quicktime movies


On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I have stuff recorded with a cam corder and am wanting to burn this
either to DVD or probably just VCD on my computer.  Is there software
that will do this, how do you hook the camera to the computer?  Is 
there

a way to do this via usb cable?
--
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

[MBZ] No Start Question

[Brian Chase]

Listers,

A basic question, so bear with me.

I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty well when I 
left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage.


Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left it, and I 
don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say I'm not 
pleased with my brother.


Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to 
the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery 
right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while 
cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new.


So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had run it out 
of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom, i.e. the 
engine being tight, but not siezed yet?


Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools at my 
disposal.


Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me back to 
MN. WE.


Brian
83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit!

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Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[Rob Vonderhaar]

Depends on your camcorder.  Newer digital models often have a 1394 (aka 
Firewire) output, which connects directly to a Firewire input on the PC. 
That's how my new Canon works.  At least with the Canon, there's no way 
to feed video via USB.


Analog camcorders are a different story.  You'll need some kind of a 
card that will accept either S-video (much preferred) and/or composite 
video (lower resolution) and convert it to digital.  For my older Sony 
Hi-8 camcorder, I bought Pinnacle's Studio AV/DV -- it includes the card 
you install in a slot of your PC, and a blue dongle box that plugs into 
the card.  The dongle has both kinds of analog inputs, as well as a 1394 
Firewire input so you're ready to go with any type of camcorder.  Also 
included in the box is a copy of Pinnacle Studio 9, which is one of 
several good editing packages.


Basically, you start Studio and enter 'capture' mode.  Click start, and 
then hit Play on your camcorder.  When you're done digitizing, you can 
do a ton of editing very easily - fades, dissolves, add DVD menus and 
chapters, add soundtracks, etc.  Studio will then burn the results 
directly to a DVD (assuming you have a burner).


   Rob

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have stuff recorded with a cam corder and am wanting to burn this
either to DVD or probably just VCD on my computer.  Is there software
that will do this, how do you hook the camera to the computer?  Is 
there
a way to do this via usb cable? 

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[BenzBarn]

This tool is for setting the base measurement on hydraulic lifters. Can't be
done without one.
There's a small pin that rests on top of the lifter along with the tool and
a small red line is on the pin. If it shows red when you place it right you
need a thicker or thinner lash pad under the rocker.
 Any noise at idle is usually from worn lifters, lash pad adjustment or low
oil pressure.
By the time all these things  take their toll the cam lobes are usually worn
out so checking base settings is a waste of time.
Some people don't want to spend money on their cars just to fix a little
tick at idle if everything else is OK. Again, and in that case, more waste
of time to take any measurements.

However, you can't do the base settings without this rather expensive tool.

[MBZ] cheap CD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[Fred De Vries]

Hey Don and Teresa, Now that you mention it, the guy talking had a dealer 
plate on the back of his 240D and was returning from a car auction!




FRED DE VRIES

[MBZ] epc

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Anybody tried the newer DVD version of the EPC?  I see them on ebay from 
time to time and am thinking about getting one.

--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the replies,
I'm just looking for the nozzles or tips.

Ah, okay, I only mentioned it as you had mentioned you drove trucks, and
some truck guys refer to the entire injector as a 'nozzle' in casual
conversation, or around here they do anyway.

Mac
Used to love those 80s Ford Louisvilles(?) with the
bell for the oil pressure alarm when
I worked at the truck rental shop 

Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thanks

Rich Thomas wrote:

You need to either buy a dongle thingie that is made for doing this -- 
it takes the video out of your camera and turns it into bits that go on 
your hard drive, I think they plug into a USB -- or a video card that 
has video inputs (certain TV tuner cards can do this).  I am looking to 
get one of these too, saw some advertised at the local Frye's and Micro 
Center for less than $50, either way.  Then you need a DVD burner, have 
seen this for as low as $30, not sure how good they are, but a good one 
is down to like $70 now.  Check out newegg.com, they have good stuff and 
service, and outpost.com is now the Frye's web site.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I have stuff recorded with a cam corder and am wanting to burn this 
either to DVD or probably just VCD on my computer.  Is there software 
that will do this, how do you hook the camera to the computer?  Is there 
a way to do this via usb cable?







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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[Rich Thomas]

You need to either buy a dongle thingie that is made for doing this -- 
it takes the video out of your camera and turns it into bits that go on 
your hard drive, I think they plug into a USB -- or a video card that 
has video inputs (certain TV tuner cards can do this).  I am looking to 
get one of these too, saw some advertised at the local Frye's and Micro 
Center for less than $50, either way.  Then you need a DVD burner, have 
seen this for as low as $30, not sure how good they are, but a good one 
is down to like $70 now.  Check out newegg.com, they have good stuff and 
service, and outpost.com is now the Frye's web site.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I have stuff recorded with a cam corder and am wanting to burn this 
either to DVD or probably just VCD on my computer.  Is there software 
that will do this, how do you hook the camera to the computer?  Is there 
a way to do this via usb cable?
 

Re: [MBZ] Question about vacuum shut-off servo replacement 87 190D Turbo

[Joe Knight]

Unless of course your pump is positioned such that removal of the ALDA
isn't possible w/o also removing the intake.  Dunno if that's even
potentially an issue w/ the 2.5.  I can attest to that possibility so
far as the 603.96x is concerned.

joe

On 8/20/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> I would strongly recommend removing the ALDA, it makes the job
> go MUCH faster. I did this job once before I knew the ALDA could be
> removed and it took about 2 hours. I could probably do it again in
> under 30 minutes...

Re: [MBZ] brake warning light

[LT Don]

Darrell:

1. I used to have "1977 240D" in my signature line but it seems to
have gone away. I will have to fix that.

2. It WAS the switch reset. I now remember having to reset that once
before but it had totally slipped my mind. A quick push in of the
switch (why do they make that so thin and needle-like?) turned off the
warning light. ... I am such an optimist that I had already checked
the prices for a new master cylinder.

3. I think someone mentioned this before, but WalMart does stock
5-quart jugs of the Truck/SUV Mobil 1. There was some concern on the
list (Marshall's name comes to mind) by some that this would only be
available in quarts. Bought a 5-quart jug today while I was at WalMart
getting my vision checked* and just did an oil change. 5300 miles
between changes; probably safe for mostly in-town driving @ 35 mph and
below.

* = My eyesight is improving for some reason. Left contact went from
-1.25 to -.50 & right contact went from -.75 to -.25. I can now see
literally to the horizon without any blurring. Perhaps frequent
exposure to #2 diesel  and Mobil 1 fumes improves visual acuity. My
eyes were getting progressively worse when I was driving an Acura. I
had my last eye exam about the same time that I got my 240D.

Thanks.


On 8/20/05, Darrell W. Sigmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LT Don, as long as you have been exposed to this list you know the first
> thing you do is tell us what vehicle you are talking about  I am
> taking a shot in the dark here and suspect that you have a MC with a
> switch on the side, which can be reset. MB had this as a safety factor
> so that when either half of the MC malfunctioned an internal rod would
> move and trip the switch.

> Darrell
> ~
> 

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[MBZ] Parallel Park

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

Now this is how you save time and get the space you wanted...

DWS




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Re: [MBZ] brake warning light

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

LT Don, as long as you have been exposed to this list you know the first 
thing you do is tell us what vehicle you are talking about  I am 
taking a shot in the dark here and suspect that you have a MC with a 
switch on the side, which can be reset. MB had this as a safety factor 
so that when either half of the MC malfunctioned an internal rod would 
move and trip the switch.


I ASSUME that the MC is painted black. You know what happens when you 
ASSUME don't you. Well I'm going to tell you again: ASSUME; you make an 
ASS of "U" and ME.


Darrell
~



LT Don wrote:


Braked down from 60 mph at a stop sign this morning coming back from
an eye appointment. Car stopped as it normally would but the brake
warning light came on. This is the square light, not the wear sensor
light.

Checked brake fluid level when I got home and it was between minimum
and maximum. Topped it off to the maximum mark.  Light still on.

Consulted the owner's manual. Says this could mean the parking brake
is on (it isn't), or it is low on fluid (was maybe a bit low but not
really low and is now on max), or there is a leak (can't see anything
dripping). Are there any other possibilities, such as maybe the brakes
need to be bled?  Brake pads all looked good last time, which was at
the most a couple of thousand miles ago.

One thing I've noticed over the past few weeks or maybe months is that
I seem to have good power assist when first stopping but sometimes
(not too often though) it will see that I have lost power assist all
of a sudden. The power assist returns to normal once I am driving
again.  Might or might not be related.

Any suggestions? 

Re: [MBZ] brake warning light

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:01:15 -0500 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One thing I've noticed over the past few weeks or maybe months is that
> I seem to have good power assist when first stopping but sometimes
> (not too often though) it will see that I have lost power assist all
> of a sudden. The power assist returns to normal once I am driving
> again.  Might or might not be related.
> 
> Any suggestions? 


I would say power assist isn't related. Might be a vacuum problem or a
booster problem.

The things that should make the brake warning light illuminate:

- parking brake not fully released

- brake fluid low

- something that makes it illuminate when starting (I'm not sure what
  at the moment)


In addition, a shorted wire will do it, too.

Try fiddling with the actual switch on the parking brake lever. That can
have mechanical actuation problems. Ours did recently.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Marshall Booth]

RAH wrote:
Thanks for the replies, 
I'm just looking for the nozzles or tips. Already tested the 
injectors in the parts car with 288K on it and none of the 5 had a good 
spray pattern. The faces of the nozzles are burnt from the needle to 
where the heat shield protects, this is bad enough you can feel the 
dished out spot its burnt in the nozzle. I'm sure I could clean them up 
a get a better spray pattern, but how long is that going to last with so 
much of the nozzle burnt away? My car has 232K and I bet the nozzles 
aren't far behind.
  So what I'm Looking for is a set of NOS nozzles that say Made in 
Germany on them. Maybe someone bought a set 3-4 years ago or 10-15 would 
even be better and no longer needs them and wants to sell.
I know Rusty sells them new, But I'm looking for NOS nozzles that 
say Made in Germany on them.  Thanks Russ H



The nozzles (NOT the injectors) cost almost $30 EACH now. Rebuilt 
injectors (including new nozzles usually in used injector bodies) cost 
about $60 each.


Not clear that you can get ANYTHING that is made in Germany any more. 
Bosch has a part number and all you can do is order the part with THAT 
part number. There is NO reason why the part can't be made anywhere in 
the world to the same standards.


SOMETIMES a through cleaning of the nozzles CAN result in them being 
rejuvenated. When nozzles were less than $20 each, I would replace them 
when cleaning with a cleaner in the tank stopped reviving them and 
replacing them always resulted in good spray pattern while cleaning 
(even by a professional) only did it about half the time.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Question about vacuum shut-off servo replacement 87 190D turbo

[Marshall Booth]

Here are the two most relevant posts:


I JUST did this job on my 300D, which has almost the same exact engine
you have (mine's 603.960, yours is .961). I managed to do it with the
injector lines & ALDA in place, but boy it was NOT fun. Took about an hour.
I disconnected the 3-prong connector, and alternately used an Allen wrench
in the inner bolt's Torx socket along with a 10mm open-end wrench to
s-l-o-w-l-y get it out about 1/16-turn at a time. Then, the unit pulls
straight up and wiggles out at an angle.

Once it's out you'll see how it reattaches, it takes a little fiddling
to get the new one in place. And then it's REAL fun to get the rear bolt
started again! The new unit will be all plastic, if you removed a metal one
you won't need the two metal "fingers" anymore, just toss them. You will
need to extend the vacuum line also, the new one has a top connection. The
proper way is to get a "long" 90-degree hose from the dealer, or you can
just use a ~4-inch length of plain ol' hose to reattach to the plastic line.
This is NOT a fun job. TEPO of my car had it done in 1994 at the dealer -
the nailed him for $90 for the valve, plus 2 hours labor, $250 out the door!
It cost me $25 from Rusty and an hour of my time. This is why I can afford a
Mercedes!

 :-D 


Dave M.



f the vacuum shut-off pod is bad, removing the ALDA makes the job of replacing
it at least 10x easier. Photos on how to remove the ALDA are here:

http://www.meimann.com/images/mercedes/OM603_injection/ (I don't think this 
works now)

Order a new O-ring with the new pod (the O-ring doesn't come with the new pod.)
You'll need to disconnect the electrical connector next to the pod, turn the
lock ring ~90 degrees (CCW?), then the connector gently pries upward. That gives
you access to both bolts holding the pod down. Photos of the injection pump
(removed from the car) are also in the URL above.

-dm   :) 


Marshall

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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

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http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

[MBZ] blower motor info

[Constantine N. Polites]

For those of you with a  350 SDL or other models using the same blower 
motor, it is in fact a Bosch
0 130 111 017 and is made in Germany.  A new unit has a resistance of 
2.3 ohms.


I'd appreciate any input regarding other units.  Which models  take the 
0 130 111 001?   What

is their resistance in ohms?

I'll be using this information to update my file and  drawing which you 
can download

from www.scaffolding.com/mb.

Constantine

Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[Mitch Haley]

I've got a Pinnacle PCTV card, and I plug the VCR into the antenna input on the 
card. 
(my card has composite video/audio outputs, but not inputs)
It was something like $20 after rebate at CompUSA a couple of years ago.

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr.]

Yes-I would vote for split lists now that the traffic is so high.
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr.
1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
Wickford RI
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Landiss
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Split Lists?

Has any thought been given to splitting the lists again? The traffic on 
the combined list is so great that it even builds several digests a day.




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Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Mitch Haley]

> RAH wrote:
> I know Rusty sells them new, But I'm looking for NOS nozzles that say 
> Made in
> Germany on them.  

Where are the new (current) ones made?
If 4 years will do it, I'd call my local Bosch distributor and see
if I get incredibly lucky.

[MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have stuff recorded with a cam corder and am wanting to burn this 
either to DVD or probably just VCD on my computer.  Is there software 
that will do this, how do you hook the camera to the computer?  Is there 
a way to do this via usb cable?

--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[RAH]

Thanks for the replies,  
I'm just looking for the nozzles or tips. Already tested the injectors in 
the parts car with 288K on it and none of the 5 had a good spray pattern. The 
faces of the nozzles are burnt from the needle to where the heat shield 
protects, this is bad enough you can feel the dished out spot its burnt in the 
nozzle. I'm sure I could clean them up a get a better spray pattern, but how 
long is that going to last with so much of the nozzle burnt away? My car has 
232K and I bet the nozzles aren't far behind. 
  So what I'm Looking for is a set of NOS nozzles that say Made in Germany on 
them. Maybe someone bought a set 3-4 years ago or 10-15 would even be better 
and no longer needs them and wants to sell. 
I know Rusty sells them new, But I'm looking for NOS nozzles that say Made 
in Germany on them.  Thanks Russ H

Re: [MBZ] Question about vacuum shut-off servo replacement 87 190D Turbo

[Dave M.]

Robert,

You need to disconenct the electrical connector. That should allow the
vac pod to come out. The brown plastic lock ring will come off if
needed. I would strongly recommend removing the ALDA, it makes the job
go MUCH faster. I did this job once before I knew the ALDA could be
removed and it took about 2 hours. I could probably do it again in
under 30 minutes...

:)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:56:51 -0400
> From: "Robert Massmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Question about vacuum shut-off servo replacement 87
>190D turbo
> 
> Well before I tackle the crankshaft seal tomorrow I thought I would try and
> replace my leaking vacuum servo for the engine shut down.  Has anyone
> replace one on the 190 2.5 turbo engine. I found the steps in the electronic
> manual, but it didn't say anything about the electrical connector that is in
> the way.  I removed the clamps screws, front one wasn't too bad but the back
> one is a different story, it is tucked down between the valve, the
> electrical
> connector & aldi. A small 10 mm ignition wrench and many 1/8 of a turns
> finally got it out. At this time the servo is trapped by electrical
> connector retainer ring. There is a connector that plugs into the pump, it
> is held in place
> with a light brown ring that rotates on the connector on the pump.  The
> plastic ring extends over top the metal ring that the clamps contact and
> hold the
> servo in place. I have attached a small photo. Can the plastic ring come of
> the electrical connector. or is there enough room the lift up the servo out
> of the pilot hole and slide it out of the way of the connector retainer
> ring. I know there is only a short pin that engages with the shut off valve.
> The way it is right know I can not seem to remove the servo.
> Any insight would be helpfull.
> 
> Regards,
> Robert Massmann
> Wilmington, Ohio
> 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 234K?

Re: [MBZ] OM617 Vacuum Pump

[Stuart Saxonberg]

Thanks for the link and writeup, Rich. 

That should be very, very helpful... as soon as I order the second half of
the rebuild kit. It's not at all obvious, lacking the manual writeup, as I
was when I ordered, that *both* are needed for a full rebuild. I'd assumed
they were for different variants of the pump, and only ordered the valve,
not the diaphragm.

D'oh!

Stuart S.
1976 300D w115, with increasingly fewer original engine
parts.

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[redghost]

I vote to keep it together (like my vote is worth anything)

I can post both real cars and those lame Vergasser types from CL.  Not 
that anybody comes here to get a...


Oh yeah, Dave did

On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 09:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

We have the 108 list split off for older cars.  Aside from that, that 
is

what subject lines are for, correct?

Dan Landiss wrote:

Has any thought been given to splitting the lists again? The traffic 
on
the combined list is so great that it even builds several digests a 
day.







--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

[MBZ] brake warning light

[LT Don]

Braked down from 60 mph at a stop sign this morning coming back from
an eye appointment. Car stopped as it normally would but the brake
warning light came on. This is the square light, not the wear sensor
light.

Checked brake fluid level when I got home and it was between minimum
and maximum. Topped it off to the maximum mark.  Light still on.

Consulted the owner's manual. Says this could mean the parking brake
is on (it isn't), or it is low on fluid (was maybe a bit low but not
really low and is now on max), or there is a leak (can't see anything
dripping). Are there any other possibilities, such as maybe the brakes
need to be bled?  Brake pads all looked good last time, which was at
the most a couple of thousand miles ago.

One thing I've noticed over the past few weeks or maybe months is that
I seem to have good power assist when first stopping but sometimes
(not too often though) it will see that I have lost power assist all
of a sudden. The power assist returns to normal once I am driving
again.  Might or might not be related.

Any suggestions? 



-- 
If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[LT Don]

Ok, I won't. I will turn it in for recycling (which means that my
mechanic will burn it in their oil heater this winter).

On 8/20/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LT Don wrote:
> > Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
> > to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
> > or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? All five quarts into a
> > twenty gallon tank might be a bit much, but what about a quart at a
> > time over five tank fulls? Sure, there would be less power --
> > something that a 240D might not really want -- but it would be the
> > ultimate oil recycling.
> >
> >
> 
> DO NOT DO IT.
> 
> Marshall
> --
>   Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
>"der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
> 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
>Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
>  http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
> 
> 
> ___
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> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> 
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[MBZ] 190DT shutoff

[frederick w moir]

Hi, All. Reply to Don Roberto. When I replaced the shutoff vacuum pukky, I 
first got a replacement from Rusty (All Hail Rusty!), removed the intake 
manifold, (new gasket same source) tried not to break anything removing the 
electrical connector. The locking ring for the conn. came off after 
rotating it around 'til it slid up off the base. replaced the vacuum shut 
off with a new (plastic i.e. cheap) replacement and using Mightyvac 
confirmed correct operation. Reassembled everything as per the photo's I 
took beforehand, and, taking a DEEP breath restarted the beast and it then 
shut off as designed. (phew!) More than you wanted to know I'll bet!

TTFN and The best if British Luck!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
87 190DT 114 K miles
85 300TD  14x? miles
84 190D   220k miles
85 190E Paatz Caah

Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures

[Joe Knight]

Odo not turning some of the time would indicate *lower* than actual
mileage anyway.

joe

Re: [MBZ] Question about vacuum shut-off servo replacement 87 190D turbo

[Joe Knight]

I went thru that when I broke the plastic vacuum connection on my
wagon's shutoff while trying to manuver the ALDA out of the way so I
could add a shim, Robert (think I let a wrench slip).  :(   IIRC, you
just turn the lever ccw to release, but you should probably wait for
confirmation from someone with a better memory than mine.  I do know
it's possible & I do feel your pain.

joe

On 8/20/05, Robert Massmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well before I tackle the crankshaft seal tomorrow I thought I would try and
> replace my leaking vacuum servo for the engine shut down.  Has anyone
> replace one on the 190 2.5 turbo engine. I found the steps in the electronic
> manual, but it didn't say anything about the electrical connector that is in
> the way.  I removed the clamps screws, front one wasn't too bad but the back
> one is a different story, it is tucked down between the valve, the
> electrical
> connector & aldi. A small 10 mm ignition wrench and many 1/8 of a turns
> finally got it out. At this time the servo is trapped by electrical
> connector retainer ring. There is a connector that plugs into the pump, it
> is held in place
> with a light brown ring that rotates on the connector on the pump.  The
> plastic ring extends over top the metal ring that the clamps contact and
> hold the
> servo in place. I have attached a small photo. Can the plastic ring come of
> the electrical connector. or is there enough room the lift up the servo out
> of the pilot hole and slide it out of the way of the connector retainer
> ring. I know there is only a short pin that engages with the shut off valve.
> The way it is right know I can not seem to remove the servo.
> Any insight would be helpfull.

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Marshall Booth]

RAH wrote:
Does anyone have any New Bosch or MB (Made in Germany) injector nozzles 
for a 82 300SD,They are willing to sell? Looking for a set of 5 but will 
buy just one at a time until I end up with 5.  Russ H.


Any Bosch service center will have them or can get them. They will cost 
a bit more than $25 based on my last inquiry (a few years ago).


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[Joe Knight]

That stop is part of the switch assembly isn't it?  If so, replacing
the cylinder/tumbler wouldn't do much good.  Hadn't considered that
possibility, Mitch.

joe

Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures

[Marshall Booth]

Mitch Haley wrote:

Marshall Booth wrote:


The older man is NOT telling the truth about the mileage. At anything
other than a steady 40-45 mph, about the best you will get from a 240D
is in the low 30s - especially with less than optimal fuel.



Yeah, but what if you don't measure everything that goes in the tank? 
(kind of like the "250mpg" hybrid)


Or the odometer only turns SOME of the time!! Still, that's NOT TELLING 
THE TRUTH.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] replacing glow plugs on a 603

[Marshall Booth]

OK Don wrote:

The GP wire nuts on my 603 are attached to the wire - very nicely as
we would expect from MB (the old one anyway). I changed all but one of
the GPs with the manifold on, but might just pull it for that last one
(2 or 3 - I've forgotten already).

The valve cover gasket is the ONLY one I'd consider re-using.



Early OM60x engines did NOT have captive glow plug nuts. I was pleased 
when Mercedes changed to captive nuts UNTIL I discovered (don't ask HOW 
I discovered this) that the captive nuts on the later cars CAN and DO 
liberate themselves (always at the worst possible time - and the 
liberated nut falls into the bottomless pit on the engine side of the 
injection pump). Try sometime to buy a replacement "captive nut" from 
Mercedes!! Only available as part of the complete wiring harness.


You can reuse the gasket on the crossover pipe to the intake manifold 
several times with a little luck. Why would anyone remove the valve 
cover to replace glow plugs??


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Mitch Haley]

> RAH wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any New Bosch or MB (Made in Germany) injector nozzles for a 
> 82
> 300SD,

Rusty has Bosch 0.434.250.110 for $29.52 according to his web page.

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Joe Knight]

The nozzles are the part of the injector that is probably most subject
to degradation although some will argue that nozzle wear isn't really
much of an issue under normal conditions.  I'm not at all sure that
even Bosch rebuilt injectors routinely have the nozzles replaced.  If
you're intent on *new* nozzles for your injectors the best approach
would probably be to buy them direct from a Bosch distributor.  Don't
expect them to come cheap though.  Any way you go, for best
performance you'll still need to address the issue of calibration. 
The Bosch or knockoff testers are a little pricey but some listers
have made their own from grease guns or bottle jacks.  Another up side
to having a tester is that it gives you the capability of checking the
condition of what you've already got before you plunk down the change
for replacements that may do you no good at all.

joe

On 8/20/05, RAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any New Bosch or MB (Made in Germany) injector nozzles for
> a 82 300SD,They are willing to sell? Looking for a set of 5 but will buy
> just one at a time until I end up with 5.  Russ H.

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:
> 
> Good point! The key does turn normally untill it hits a hard stop
> before the start position, so I haven't worried about it, which is to
> say that I haven't thought about it. Yes, I should just fix it and
> move on.
> 

Probably the stop that prevents you from starting it more than once
is not resetting when you shut down. Might be possible to free it up
so it works properly again.

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone have any New Bosch or MB (Made in Germany) injector nozzles for
a 82 300SD,They are willing to sell? Looking for a set of 5 but will buy
just one at a time until I end up with 5.  Russ H.

Last time I checked, you can probably get them for $15-18 or so each from
Rusty at the address below this message.

(You said injector NOZZLES, in the auto diesel world nozzle=tip, which can
be changed on Bosch injectors. Or did you mean the whole injecor?)

Mac 

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[Richard Hattaway]

Ya know the diesel list was always pretty big.  The veterans list
really suffered.  Some of the other lists had little if any traffic
(123, dieseltech).

Look at it this way.  If we can convince  a few more gasser types that
the diesels are the way to go, we can end up with a better diesel list.

Richard
80 300TD with piles of miles 

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Re: [MBZ] Switch tumblers, etc.

[JJJ]

CALL FOR CRIS...NEW EXPERIMENT!!!

as long as you have the test car running (i'm guessing for 24 months), how 
about hanging a one pound weeight on your keychain?...i'll keep book as we 
wager our way foreward...


If you take your burned up boat starter to the rebuild store they will advise 
you to replace your ignition switch, as they commonly corrode inside and hang 
up, keeping the starter engaged. This has NOTHING to do with heavy keyrings. In 
my case the key has only a plastic float which weighs a few ounces. So 
there are other explanations. If you want to argue that inside your MB there is 
no corrosion, or that there is no dirt/dust/grime to gum up the works, knock 
yourself out. Anyone who has spent any time under the dash will tell you about 
the debris that finds your eyes. 

Now Marshall warns us that MB themselves have issued warnings about keychain 
weight. Using my logic, this means they think that added weight in the ignition 
switch causes wear/damage/harm. Is this correct? If so then why would my 126 
body key weigh 12 grams, (per my carb float scale) and my 220 body key weigh 30 
grams?  The factory themselves increased the weight of the key by 2 1/2 times. 
How does that make sense?

Having said that, my entire keychain weighs 93 grams, 5 keys and a CPR shield. 
The mercedes key being the heaviest item. 

Ken

In a message dated 8/20/2005 8:58:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

Ya if some bozos would use the subject line with info that the rest of bozos 
could understand.

On 8/20/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> We have the 108 list split off for older cars. Aside from that, that is
> what subject lines are for, correct?
> 
> Dan Landiss wrote:
> 
> > Has any thought been given to splitting the lists again? The traffic on
> > the combined list is so great that it even builds several digests a day.
> >
> > --
> > Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with 
> ketchup.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com 
> > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com 
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> 
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com 
> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com 
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> 



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Market Place Mexico
Vacation Rentals
Property Administration
www.marketplacemexico.com 

Re: [MBZ] Switch tumblers, etc.

[Bucks2]

If you take your burned up boat starter to the rebuild store they will advise 
you to replace your ignition switch, as they commonly corrode inside and hang 
up, keeping the starter engaged. This has NOTHING to do with heavy keyrings. 
In my case the key has only a plastic float which weighs a few ounces. 
So there are other explanations. If you want to argue that inside your 
MB 
there is no corrosion, or that there is no dirt/dust/grime to gum up the works, 
knock yourself out. Anyone who has spent any time under the dash will tell you 
about the debris that finds your eyes. 

Now Marshall warns us that MB themselves have issued warnings about keychain 
weight. Using my logic, this means they think that added weight in the 
ignition switch causes wear/damage/harm. Is this correct? If so then why would 
my 126 
body key weigh 12 grams, (per my carb float scale) and my 220 body key weigh 
30 grams?  The factory themselves increased the weight of the key by 2 1/2 
times. How does that make sense?

Having said that, my entire keychain weighs 93 grams, 5 keys and a CPR 
shield. The mercedes key being the heaviest item. 

Ken

In a message dated 8/20/2005 8:58:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Switch tumblers, etc.
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"

This is not an urban myth.  This is absolute fact.
Several years ago, my wife burned out the starter in our 80 240D by letting
a very heavy key ring hang so that the key could not return to the
ON/RUNNING position from the START position.  The weight hanging on the
right hand side of the key held it in the START position, of course, keeping
the starter running as she drove along.  Again, it was a HEAVY key ring.
LESSON:  BE VERY CAREFUL USING HEAVY KEY RINGS.  BEST NOT TO USE THEM.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[John Robbins]

The diesel list was always like this now there are just gasser 
questions as well.


On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Dan Landiss wrote:


Has any thought been given to splitting the lists again? The traffic on
the combined list is so great that it even builds several digests a day.

Re: [MBZ] Split Lists?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

We have the 108 list split off for older cars.  Aside from that, that is 
what subject lines are for, correct?


Dan Landiss wrote:

Has any thought been given to splitting the lists again? The traffic on 
the combined list is so great that it even builds several digests a day.


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

[MBZ] Split Lists?

[Dan Landiss]

Has any thought been given to splitting the lists again? The traffic on 
the combined list is so great that it even builds several digests a day.


--
Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

[MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[RAH]

Does anyone have any New Bosch or MB (Made in Germany) injector nozzles for a 
82 300SD,They are willing to sell? Looking for a set of 5 but will buy just one 
at a time until I end up with 5.  Russ H.

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[OK Don]

Good point! The key does turn normally untill it hits a hard stop
before the start position, so I haven't worried about it, which is to
say that I haven't thought about it. Yes, I should just fix it and
move on.

On 8/20/05, Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What happens when the key decides to lock up completely?  I'd replace
> the thing anyway; you can always leave the d/b switch in to satisfy
> the yearnings of the rugrats.
> 
> joe

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[OK Don]

I think you're both correct! 

On 8/20/05, Don & Teresa Merriman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO no no, it´s when the salesmen lips are moving
> 
> On 8/20/05, Fred De Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  I used to sell cars and we had a saying,"How do
> you 
> > tell when a buyers lying?  his lips move."
> 

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[Joe Knight]

What happens when the key decides to lock up completely?  I'd replace
the thing anyway; you can always leave the d/b switch in to satisfy
the yearnings of the rugrats.

joe

On 8/20/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The ignition switch in the 240D that my kids drive does not turn to
> the starter position. The PO (my father - this is a four-generation
> heirloom now) wired in a door bell switch rather than fix the switch.
> When I anounced that I was going to order the parts from Rusty to fix
> it one evening, the kids set on me like I was planning to eat the
> family pet! The contacts finally burnt in the doorbell switch so that
> starting the car was iffy. My son replaced the doorbell switch so that
> I wouldn't fix the ignition switch!

[MBZ] Question about vacuum shut-off servo replacement 87 190D turbo

[Robert Massmann]

Well before I tackle the crankshaft seal tomorrow I thought I would try and
replace my leaking vacuum servo for the engine shut down.  Has anyone
replace one on the 190 2.5 turbo engine. I found the steps in the electronic
manual, but it didn't say anything about the electrical connector that is in
the way.  I removed the clamps screws, front one wasn't too bad but the back
one is a different story, it is tucked down between the valve, the
electrical
connector & aldi. A small 10 mm ignition wrench and many 1/8 of a turns
finally got it out. At this time the servo is trapped by electrical
connector retainer ring. There is a connector that plugs into the pump, it
is held in place
with a light brown ring that rotates on the connector on the pump.  The
plastic ring extends over top the metal ring that the clamps contact and
hold the
servo in place. I have attached a small photo. Can the plastic ring come of
the electrical connector. or is there enough room the lift up the servo out
of the pilot hole and slide it out of the way of the connector retainer
ring. I know there is only a short pin that engages with the shut off valve.
The way it is right know I can not seem to remove the servo.
Any insight would be helpfull.

Regards,
Robert Massmann
Wilmington, Ohio
87 190D 2.5 Turbo 234K?
85 300CD 327K
82 300D 327K
81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel)
<>

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

NO no no, it´s when the salesmen lips are moving

On 8/20/05, Fred De Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Thank You Marshall! I'm coming out of the Twilite Zone little by little,
> learning and listening. I used to sell cars and we had a saying,"How do 
> you
> tell when a buyers lying? his lips move."
> As for the key and tumbler.. Right now I start the car with a screwdriver
> across the starter solenoid.
> I picked up a push button switch to install. I'm comfortable with leaving
> the key in the ignition, my only concern is that someday the steering 
> wheel
> locks up at an inopportune moment.
> "We were all happy that dad passed away quietly in his sleep, too bad the
> people riding in the back seat were screaming so loud"
> 
> FRED DE VRIES
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Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

Save the whales. Collect one of each.

On 8/20/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> David Brodbeck wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, but Japanese and Norwegian sailors would always be trying to embed
> > harpoons in your hood.
> 
> And a watch repairman would steal your car so he could sell the contents
> of the fuel tank by the ounce and retire on the proceeds. They can't get
> sperm oil any more, and I've heard there's nothing quite as good. OTOH,
> how many watch repairmen are left in the world, maybe twice as many as
> there are typewriter repairmen?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[OK Don]

The ignition switch in the 240D that my kids drive does not turn to
the starter position. The PO (my father - this is a four-generation
heirloom now) wired in a door bell switch rather than fix the switch.
When I anounced that I was going to order the parts from Rusty to fix
it one evening, the kids set on me like I was planning to eat the
family pet! The contacts finally burnt in the doorbell switch so that
starting the car was iffy. My son replaced the doorbell switch so that
I wouldn't fix the ignition switch!


> I picked up a push button switch to install.  I'm comfortable with leaving
> the key in the ignition, my only concern is that someday the steering wheel
> locks up at an inopportune moment.
> "We were all happy that dad passed away quietly in his sleep, too bad the
> people riding in the back seat were screaming so loud"
> 
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Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[DANTERR9]

The problem is the ash from burning it could possibly damage the valve seats. 
 I would not burn much at a time.  A quart a tank maybe.  Adding a quart of 2 
cycle oil would be better for engine lubrication and it has no ash when 
burned. -Dan

In a message dated 8/20/2005 11:22:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wouldnt recommend doing that. I tried that once and i suspect that is 
what lead to the death of my engine in my wagon.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 8/19/2005 11:40:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
>> Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
>> to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
>> or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? All five quarts into a
>> twenty gallon tank might be a bit much, but what about a quart at a
>> time over five tank fulls? Sure, there would be less power --
>> something that a 240D might not really want -- but it would be the
>> ultimate oil recycling.
>>
> 
> 
> Filter it through a toilet paper filter and dump it all in with nearly a 
> full tank.You won't even notice it's there.  Mike
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Marshall Booth]

LT Don wrote:

Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? All five quarts into a
twenty gallon tank might be a bit much, but what about a quart at a
time over five tank fulls? Sure, there would be less power --
something that a 240D might not really want -- but it would be the
ultimate oil recycling.




DO NOT DO IT.

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Re: [MBZ] '82 300SD

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

Absolutely Chuck, loads of fun

DWS

Chuck Landenberger wrote:

David,

I'm probably repeating myself, but in September my 1980 300SD w/340k  
miles (original unopened engine, IP and injectors) is taking me back  
east to attend Tri-O-Rama at Virginia International Raceway.  We, the  
"old girl" and me, are gonna' drive the track and indulge in some  
autocrossing.


Gonna' be a ball

Darrell will agree  Don't ya?

Will keep anyone interested posted on the trip

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ

On Aug 19, 2005, at 8:02 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:



I know a guy who autocrosses one.  A diesel, no less.

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Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I wouldnt recommend doing that. I tried that once and i suspect that is 
what lead to the death of my engine in my wagon.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 8/19/2005 11:40:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? All five quarts into a
twenty gallon tank might be a bit much, but what about a quart at a
time over five tank fulls? Sure, there would be less power --
something that a 240D might not really want -- but it would be the
ultimate oil recycling.




Filter it through a toilet paper filter and dump it all in with nearly a 
full tank.You won't even notice it's there.  Mike





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Re: [MBZ] Great timing

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:12:11 -0700 redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.mountainbiketales.com/Verdra3.htm
> 
> 
> Maybe they knew fuel prices were going to have us bent over.  This is 
> the new way to get to work?

Some interesting looking bikes there. I noticed that some of them couldn't
even steer before I went to the update and found,

> Alert readers will already have discovered for themselves that the story
> about the Specialized Venom line is an April Fool's type prank.
> Specialized manufactures some of the world's best mountain bikes, but it
> has no plans to produce futuristic bicycles of this kind.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] No torque (was 72 250 no vacuum advance)

[Mike Boerner]

George,
There is another ignition failure mode that's intermittent, but I don't
think it's your problem.  You may want to note it for future reference.
High ambient temperature operation, any speed, the engine shuts off, as if
you'd turned the key off.  Do NOT change the fuel pump first, like I did.
The germanium transistor in the Transistorized Switch Unit (TSU) apparently
grows faint in the heat (for southern folks here, I guess that means it get
"the vapors?"  Anyway, it faints, and stops delivering spark until it cools
down somewhat.  After a lot of unsuccessful troubleshooting attempts, a
light wired to the output revealed the problem.  The dealer probably
would've known about it, as it turns out to be a known weakness with the
germanium transistors.  Too bad I didn't know about it in 1976.
Mike Boerner
87 300sdl 126k, 87 300d 128k, 01 ml320 38k

> George, how did the exhaust look? Were you getting any black smoke with
> the car under load? I just wonder if your ignition system has troubles
> other than spark timing.
> Russ

[MBZ] Switch tumblers, etc.

[Wilton Strickland]

This is not an urban myth.  This is absolute fact.
Several years ago, my wife burned out the starter in our 80 240D by letting
a very heavy key ring hang so that the key could not return to the
ON/RUNNING position from the START position.  The weight hanging on the
right hand side of the key held it in the START position, of course, keeping
the starter running as she drove along.  Again, it was a HEAVY key ring.
LESSON:  BE VERY CAREFUL USING HEAVY KEY RINGS.  BEST NOT TO USE THEM.

Wilton
91 350SDL, 87 300D
80 240D deceased, 81 300D sold

Re: [MBZ] replacing glow plugs on a 603

[Royce Engler]

Marshall said...

Been there done that more than once (sometimes I'm a slow learner) but
I've dropped ALMOST anything that can be dropped and when I'm done, I
rake up the stuff off the sound encapsulation panel.


My philosophy is that any lesson worth learning the hard way is worth
learning two or three times. 

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K

Re: [MBZ] Key and Tumbler

[Fred De Vries]

Thank You Marshall!  I'm coming out of the Twilite Zone little by little, 
learning and listening.  I used to sell cars and we had a saying,"How do you 
tell when a buyers lying?  his lips move."
As for the key and tumbler.. Right now I start the car with a screwdriver 
across the starter solenoid.
I picked up a push button switch to install.  I'm comfortable with leaving 
the key in the ignition, my only concern is that someday the steering wheel 
locks up at an inopportune moment.
"We were all happy that dad passed away quietly in his sleep, too bad the 
people riding in the back seat were screaming so loud"


FRED DE VRIES

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[Mitch Haley]

David Brodbeck wrote:
> 
> Yeah, but Japanese and Norwegian sailors would always be trying to embed
> harpoons in your hood.

And a watch repairman would steal your car so he could sell the contents
of the fuel tank by the ounce and retire on the proceeds. They can't get
sperm oil any more, and I've heard there's nothing quite as good. OTOH,
how many watch repairmen are left in the world, maybe twice as many as
there are typewriter repairmen?

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Mitch Haley]

Steve MacSween wrote:
> 
> FOUR QUARTS in a few minutes? Wow, that must have been some show.

I floored it to merge, and suddenly a cloud appeared in the mirror.
A big cloud. 
Fortunately, there was another ramp within 1/2 mile, so I coasted off,
stopped, threw in my two spare quarts, drove to an apartment complex
about 1 1/2 miles away and parked it. Two quarts low after that.

Re: [MBZ] OT, anybody know anything about big car trailers?

[Slozukimc]

In a message dated 8/20/2005 12:32:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45-Foot-car-hauler-HOT-SHOT-w-single-air-ride-S
> > emiAxle_W0QQitemZ4568853233QQcategoryZ80769QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have seen trailers like this before.  As long as you have a 1 ton truck 
with dual rears at a minimum they work very well.  Just don't try to load just 
one car on the top though as THAT's when you will end up with trouble.  That 
axle setup is plenty strong enough for 6 Benzez with the right truck pulling 
it(Like one with air brakes).

Mike

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Slozukimc]

In a message dated 8/19/2005 11:40:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
> to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
> or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? All five quarts into a
> twenty gallon tank might be a bit much, but what about a quart at a
> time over five tank fulls? Sure, there would be less power --
> something that a 240D might not really want -- but it would be the
> ultimate oil recycling.
> 
> 

Filter it through a toilet paper filter and dump it all in with nearly a full 
tank.You won't even notice it's there.  Mike

[MBZ] OkieQ band

[redghost]

http://www.nnsm.org/mp3/barrestervideo.mpg

Kaleb,

you should book this band for the next OkieQ
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

[MBZ] Great timing

[redghost]

http://www.mountainbiketales.com/Verdra3.htm


Maybe they knew fuel prices were going to have us bent over.  This is 
the new way to get to work?


--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[David Brodbeck]

redghost wrote:
> It would be same as lamp oil of old.  No way it would smoke, and of 
> course it would make the car faster.  You ever see how fast a whale 
> goes?  May even allow the car to convert to amphibious mode like a Bond 
> car.  Then  you can get from Baja  to AK without using up the tires

Yeah, but Japanese and Norwegian sailors would always be trying to embed
harpoons in your hood.

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[redghost]

It would be same as lamp oil of old.  No way it would smoke, and of 
course it would make the car faster.  You ever see how fast a whale 
goes?  May even allow the car to convert to amphibious mode like a Bond 
car.  Then  you can get from Baja  to AK without using up the tires


On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Maybe I'll get some of that stuff I get emails for, and mix it with 
the sperm whale oil, and the car will be much more powerful?


--R

redghost wrote:

Right or Sperm?

On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 04:48 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:



You think whale oil would work in the Benz?  It is a very fine
lubricant, and burns with no soot.

--R




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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[BenzBarn]

   I once had a bumper sticker that read:

   '' Nuke the gay, unborn, baby whales ''  


  Not sure why it upset so many activists

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[Rich Thomas]

Maybe I'll get some of that stuff I get emails for, and mix it with the 
sperm whale oil, and the car will be much more powerful?


--R

redghost wrote:


Right or Sperm?

On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 04:48 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 


You think whale oil would work in the Benz?  It is a very fine
lubricant, and burns with no soot.

--R

   

 


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Re: [MBZ] RE OT, anybody know anything about big car trailers?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea Im not going to get it, its going to be way too much weight by the 
time you get it loaded down.


RAH wrote:

I don't know much about car trailers, but I know a little about trucks 
and that trailer is made for mid-sized big truck with airbrakes and NOT 
for a pickup, unless you know of a pickup with air brakes?   Russ H





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Re: [MBZ] replacing glow plugs on a 603

[redghost]

While the BiL worked for Freightliner, he was asked to change the oil 
in the boss' benz.   did not remove the panel, just used a sawzall to 
make a hole and drained from the plug.


When we changed the oil and trans in the 124, I removed the panel for 
him.



On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 09:27 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Marshall Booth wrote:

I rake up the stuff off the sound encapsulation panel.


Not everybody bought their 124 new and has the oil changed
by family members. I'd like to know how many panels were
deposited in dumpsters at quik lube joints.



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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 147

[David Brodbeck]

redghost wrote:
> I say 11.78 months.  Figure that by next August there will be a 
> terminal amount of algae in the tank and it will crawl out the fuel cap 
> and start slapping him.  Being distracted, Chris will lose control of 
> the car, the rust will explode, and then the engine will fall out, drag 
> itself over to Chris and spit out all the sludge upon his leg.

Maybe it'll climb out and try to escape, like in those Valvoline
commercials. ;)

I kid, but I don't think this is a terrible use for a $500 rustbucket.
Cars are things with a limited lifespan, in salt country, and these cars
aren't quite *that* rare...once the body rots out, the whole thing has
negative value, even if the engine runs.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[BenzBarn]

Yup. And proud of it too.

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[redghost]

Article in Discover Mag. two years ago claims it puts out #2, and able 
to refine up to petrol of low octane.  Think best use was to get carbon 
black out of all the junk put in.


the plant is not supposed to stink.  The whole process makes it all 
clean according to marketing folks


On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 08:03 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


thought of visiting the place. It was supposed to put
out oil at $15/barrel...right now it's costing
$80/barrel and the plant stinks so bad that the
neighbors are not happy. Warren Buffett's son is a big
investor in it. All I know. I thought it was a lower
grade than #2...

Christopher

--- redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The Butterball Turkey plant some place in MO is
putting out #2 type
fuel for internal vehicle use from the offal.  The
process is thermal
depolymerization and the stuff coming out the end is
#2 (must be bio of
a sort).  Would the thermal part of it have rid the
feed stock of water
and other crud to the point it renders rendered
turkey goo as truck
fuel?

On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 11:10 AM, LT Don
wrote:


No, I think he is as serious as an injector heart

attack (which isn't

a bad analogy).

On 8/19/05, Steve MacSween


OMG, I thought that was a joke. Unrefined animal

fat? Through a Bosch

plunger injection pump? Not in this lifetime,

even strained do death.




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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 147

[redghost]

I say 11.78 months.  Figure that by next August there will be a 
terminal amount of algae in the tank and it will crawl out the fuel cap 
and start slapping him.  Being distracted, Chris will lose control of 
the car, the rust will explode, and then the engine will fall out, drag 
itself over to Chris and spit out all the sludge upon his leg.


On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 07:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

2 months takes us into October... I'm gonna say 4 months, as it gets 
cooler I suspect he'll lower the proportion of "stuff" to diesel. With 
the lowered proportion the car, having become addicted to said "stuff" 
will go into withdrawl and give up the ghost. At which point it 
becomes yours for $50.


-Curt

 Im not going to get sued, and even if I did they wouldnt get much. 
Keep
on posting your results.  Although I will say you will blow your engine
up sooner or later.  I would like to start a pool on this, i give it 2
months.




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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Looked at a diesel generator tonight too...screw the
> grid. You know people are running HOME fuel oil
> furnaces on veggie oil (but probably not pig fat or
> gear lube)...endless possibilities

Why? You've got an OM616. You could have a bacon fat diesel generator!

LoL. Seriously, did you not consider just using the 240d engine?

Mac

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Steve MacSween]

someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I ran four quarts through #1 cylinder on my Saab in a few minutes when I
> blew my head gasket. I don't think it burned like regular oil would have.
> Stunk worse, too.

No, it doesn't burn the same. Guys use it in Volvo turbos when they develop
their (inevitable) valve seal problems at higher mileage, because it does
not smoke as badly at idle.

But yeah, the exhaust smells sort of rotten, not oily.

FOUR QUARTS in a few minutes? Wow, that must have been some show.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] OT, anybody know anything about big car trailers?

[Steve MacSween]

I have never, ever seen anything that large (long), capable of carrying up
to three cars, running on a single axle, even a dually single. I can't
imagine it would be too stable. Plus I wonder how you would balance out two
or three heavy benzes. If you have a line on a cheap truck already setup for
it, and just want it for local use, maybe, but otherwise I think it's not
worth anything.

Mac

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If so, check this thing out.  Have my eye on it but wonder if this thing
> is worth a crap or not.  I already have todds opinion.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45-Foot-car-hauler-HOT-SHOT-w-single-air-ride-S
> emiAxle_W0QQitemZ4568853233QQcategoryZ80769QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Mitch Haley]

LT Don wrote:
> 
> Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
> to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
> or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? 

I ran four quarts through #1 cylinder on my Saab in a few minutes when I
blew my head gasket. I don't think it burned like regular oil would have. 
Stunk worse, too.

Re: [MBZ] '82 300SD

[Chuck Landenberger]

David,

I'm probably repeating myself, but in September my 1980 300SD w/340k  
miles (original unopened engine, IP and injectors) is taking me back  
east to attend Tri-O-Rama at Virginia International Raceway.  We, the  
"old girl" and me, are gonna' drive the track and indulge in some  
autocrossing.


Gonna' be a ball

Darrell will agree  Don't ya?

Will keep anyone interested posted on the trip

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ

On Aug 19, 2005, at 8:02 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:



I know a guy who autocrosses one.  A diesel, no less.

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Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures

[Mitch Haley]

Marshall Booth wrote:
> The older man is NOT telling the truth about the mileage. At anything
> other than a steady 40-45 mph, about the best you will get from a 240D
> is in the low 30s - especially with less than optimal fuel.

Yeah, but what if you don't measure everything that goes in the tank? 
(kind of like the "250mpg" hybrid)

Re: [MBZ] '82 300SD

[OK Don]

Just got home from a 60+ mile trip on the two lane Okie back roads -
night, 80mph, great feeling in the big 126 (SDL)! The only car that I
like driving on the highway better is the SLC - GOT to get that engine
put together 

On 8/19/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had the POS SDL not been a steaming pile, I would have no reservations
> about another.  I loved those highway miles out of Dallas until I hit
> OKC.  Luxury yacht blazing down the road.  If Gump bites it, I would
> love to have another w126 but not the POS.  Maybe an SDL, or a rod
> buster with new engine
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 02:05 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Another thought I had today on the 300SD, am I even old enough to
> >> drive one?
> >> I'm only 29 after all and the w126 seems to me to be more like a
> >> Mercury Grand
> >> Marquis...
> >
> > What a scream. Ever driven one of those old style big Mercurys? Then
> > go out
> > and do it now, then try the 126 again. Then wash off your keyboard with
> > soap, for having typed that.
> >
> > After a week with a w126, you won't ever want much else.
> >
> > However, you must be prepared for people to instantly assume you are a
> > lawyer or shrink, etc. These cars are timeless, especially when all
> > shined
> > up. Do NOT, repeat NOT, use same to visit garage sales. If you do,
> > give up
> > all hope of negotiation as you will look like Daddy MoneyBags, rolling
> > up,
> > alongside the other assorted automotive flotsam and jetsam.
> >
> > Mac
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Clay
> Seattle Bioburner
> 
> 1972 220D - Gump
> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] replacing glow plugs on a 603

[Mitch Haley]

Marshall Booth wrote:
> I rake up the stuff off the sound encapsulation panel.

Not everybody bought their 124 new and has the oil changed
by family members. I'd like to know how many panels were
deposited in dumpsters at quik lube joints.

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[OK Don]

We had a list member in Hawaii as while back who was doing just that
(1 qt./tank) due in part to the lack of suitable oil disposal options
on the island.

On 8/19/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given that I am due for a Mobil 1 oil change (probably tomorrow) I got
> to thinking. Would there be any danger in just pouring the five quarts
> or so of used motor oil into the fuel tank? All five quarts into a
> twenty gallon tank might be a bit much, but what about a quart at a
> time over five tank fulls? Sure, there would be less power --
> something that a 240D might not really want -- but it would be the
> ultimate oil recycling.
> 

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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] OT, anybody know anything about big car trailers?

[Mitch Haley]

And another important thing:
I bet that trailer, fully loaded, has a pin weight of 10-12k lb. 
What's the rear GAWR on your pickup, is it at least 14k (rhetorical 
question)

Re: [MBZ] replacing glow plugs on a 603

[OK Don]

The GP wire nuts on my 603 are attached to the wire - very nicely as
we would expect from MB (the old one anyway). I changed all but one of
the GPs with the manifold on, but might just pull it for that last one
(2 or 3 - I've forgotten already).

The valve cover gasket is the ONLY one I'd consider re-using.

On 8/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > Marshall:
> >
> > You wouldn't be referring to dropping a GP wire nut would you?
> >
> > Peter


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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] '82 300SD

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I know a guy who autocrosses one.  A diesel, no less.

If it's the same guy, he's here on this list.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] OT, anybody know anything about big car trailers?

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> If so, check this thing out.  Have my eye on it but wonder if this thing
>   is worth a crap or not.  I already have todds opinion.

And I thought I was nuts for pulling a gooseneck horse trailer with
the air brakes unhooked. (it's not my trailer, and I only drove it
once) Them Tauruses weigh more than racehorses.

Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures

[Steve MacSween]

Very true, in fact some tractors now have automatic transfer pumps that pump
the used engine oil into the fuel tanks without external drainage.

Again, in conversations with both a truck diesel mechanic and Benz
mechanics, I was told that the answer is that their fuel systems, and in
particular their pumps, are set up for that. Not every injection pump is.

Not that some people don't do it, mind. It's a topic of some debate in the
VW TDi on-line groups. But apart from recommending a quart of (new) oil into
the tank now and again, I've never heard a Benz wrench say it's a good idea.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Christopher, 
When I was on the road (18wheeler) Driving for a large national trucking
company, with well over 1000 tractors. How do you think they got rid of the
used oil? All the tractors were serviced at the company shops.(spread all
over the lower 48) Only emergency repairs were allowed on the road. All the
shops had fuel pumps and all the used oil went in the fuel. The fuel even
had a black tinge to it sometimes. Only thing I noticed when the fuel looked
black, was a very tiny loss of hill pulling power. But it didn't make any
difference to the last tractor I had, 500HP 60 series Detroit, that motor
made most all the hills flat!  Russ H