Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
OK Don wrote:
 Wipe hands before entering the house, use Gojo or similar waterless
 hand cleaner - and use an old tooth brush to get under and around the
 finger nails.

Gojo is great stuff.  I'm probably the last one in the world to discover
this, but it also works great for getting oily stains out of clothes.
Rub it into the stained area, wait a few minutes, then wash as usual.



Re: [MBZ] 123 Brakes

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
TimothyPilgrim wrote:
 I had the reverse problem one time. I pushed down on the brake and it
 went totally soft, almost to the floor. Scared the hell outta me
 because I was on the highway at the time doing 70 mph. I got off the
 highway onto slower streets, and the problem has never happened since.
 Just that one press was all it was.

It might have been pad kickback. Pad kickback happens when the rotor
shifts enough, usually under heavy cornering loads, to push the brake
pads back into the calipers.  When you step on the pedal, nothing
happens at first because you're pushing the pads back into position.  It
feels very similar to the first pump or two when you're seating new pads
after a brake job.

Some cars have particular problems with this.  I've never heard of it
happening on a Mercedes, but maybe if the wheel bearing play is excessive?



Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote:
 Note that dino oil , of any type, should NOT be run more than 
 3000 miles between changes.

That's probably true in diesel Mercedes engines, but it's NOT
necessarily true for other makes.  My Honda Civic's owner's manual
recommended 7500 mile changes on dino oil, or 3000 for severe service.
 I considered my driving habits and decided to split the difference and
change every 5000 miles.



Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Royce Engler wrote:
 Must be a sailor thing...I hard wired in a remote start switch on mine
 as well. Comes in handy to spin the engine when I'm doing maintenance.

I always wanted one in my VW van, but never got around to it.  It was a
long walk from the engine compartment up to the ignition switch. ;)
Actually, my plan was to put a little auxiliary panel back there with an
ignition switch, remote start, alternator and oil pressure LEDs, and a
power jack.


David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch

2005-08-28 Thread LT Don
actually, it is an aviation thing -- I was a sailor but in twenty years I 
spent a total of 3 days at sea (during OCS and under duress) and 1600 hours 
up in the air. 

On 8/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Royce Engler wrote:
  Must be a sailor thing...I hard wired in a remote start switch on mine
  as well. Comes in handy to spin the engine when I'm doing maintenance.
 
 I always wanted one in my VW van, but never got around to it. It was a
 long walk from the engine compartment up to the ignition switch. ;)
 Actually, my plan was to put a little auxiliary panel back there with an
 ignition switch, remote start, alternator and oil pressure LEDs, and a
 power jack.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-28 Thread OK Don
I finally got to look at the brake lights - the third brake light in
the rear window is burnt out!
When the car comes back I'll change it and see if the bomb warning turns off.

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[MBZ] OT intelligent design

2005-08-28 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
I am with you on the Flying Spaghetti monster theory. Cool.

Dwight Giles, Jr.
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I finally got to look at the brake lights - the third brake light in
the rear window is burnt out!
When the car comes back I'll change it and see if the bomb warning turns
off.

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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
he started with a .25 beretta and then went to 7.62.  7.62mm is .32 
ACP.  .380 is 9mm, but shorter than the more popular 9mm luger




At 04:20 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:
you sure it was a .32 and not a .380 ? won't swear to it, but I 
remember it being a .380 beretta then he had the 7.62 Walther PPK



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JabbaHursty wrote:

 can you believe that bond carried a .32?

In the books, M confiscated his Beretta (I think it was .25ACP) 
and gave him a PPK.
I think he had to do it more than once, James liked those little 
Italian things.


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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty


it's an endless source of debate, but there seems more to it than 
calculating simple force


 i tend to be in the big and slow camp.  230grain hollowpoint .45 
ACP is my choice for carry.  in terms of a defensive handgun, my 
thought is .45 ACP or .357 magnum


i just got the casull to be stupid.  i do intend to get proficient 
with it though, but i don't imagine it will ever be a practical 
defensive weapon




At 04:27 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:


The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who are bad at math.
Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm is MUCH higher 
velocity than the .45 with insignificantly less mass. The 9mm simply 
has more stopping power with less recoil and weight than the .45.


.44 Mag has PLENTY of stopping power, more than the .50 IIRC but it 
also has PLENTY of recoil unless you've got a heavy gun or some sort 
of recoil reducing device.




-Curt

Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:04:54 -0400
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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
i can't  really fully grasp why the military changed from such a 
completely proven and effective weapon as the 1911.  i'm told it was 
cost savings.  i also suspect that the influx of women into the 
military also has something to do with it (not that a woman could not 
be trained in the use of the 1911 as well as a man could be, but the 
9 is more comfortable to shoot)


also of interest is that units allowed to choose their own weapon do 
not choose 9s.  outside of NYPD, i can't think of any major force in 
law enforcement using 9mm.   i suppose the FBI is simply 
arithmetically challenged as well


At 04:30 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:
I have to agree with you there Gary, I was in the army in the 80's 
when they switched to the M9 Beretta from the M1911 45. The only 
good thing about the M9 was capacity and weight. No knock down power 
and random problems with broken slides and jamming.  You get hit by 
a .45 slug, you darn well knew it.


JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

9mm is for euro girlie men.  .45 for real americans


At 10:51 PM 8/26/2005, you wrote:
Having tried to hit stuff with both a .45 Colt side arm and a nickel
plate Hadji 9mm, I much prefer the 9mm.  The .45 was mostly on the
outside of the target, while the 9mm was able to stay centered for most
of the clip.  Then again, if there were a bear getting within 50 yards,
I think I would much prefer the colt, as all I would need is one bullet
to actually make contact.


On Friday, August 26, 2005, at 04:29 PM, JabbaHursty wrote:

  ok, it will be hard to believe, but i am this shallow --  Kleb has a
  .44 magnum, so i went out and got a .454 casull so i can have the
  biggest handgun in the kingdom
 
  pretty sick, huh?
 
  will kleb now have to respond with 50 calibre of smith  wesson?
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

230 grain federal hydrashok .45ACP is what I'm betting on.


At 04:41 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:
Higher velocity maybe, but if you need to use one in self defense 
they are totally worthless. I totally refused to carry the M9 and 
went with the M23 sig in .40 You run into someone messed up on drugs 
and the only thing a 9mm is going to do is p*ss them off. Two .45s 
slugs to the chest is going to knock them on their a$$



Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who are bad at math.
Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm is MUCH higher 
velocity than the .45 with insignificantly less mass. The 9mm 
simply has more stopping power with less recoil and weight than the .45.


.44 Mag has PLENTY of stopping power, more than the .50 IIRC but 
it also has PLENTY of recoil unless you've got a heavy gun or some 
sort of recoil reducing device.




-Curt

Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:04:54 -0400
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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

and the .45 is for serious guys while the 9 is a eurochic pellet gun, right?


At 05:12 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

Force is mass*acceleration, kinetic energy is 1/2 * mv^2.

Sorry, too much engineering for me to let that go.

On 8/27/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who are bad at math.
 Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm is MUCH higher velocity
 than the .45 with insignificantly less mass. The 9mm simply has more
 stopping power with less recoil and weight than the .45.

 .44 Mag has PLENTY of stopping power, more than the .50 IIRC but 
it also has

 PLENTY of recoil unless you've got a heavy gun or some sort of recoil
 reducing device.



 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread 72benz250
The answer of course is it depends.

This is the way it was explained to me. Using dino oil for 10-20-30 years 
leaves behind sludge. The sludge froms in front of mating serfaces and allowes 
gaskets to dry out. 

It used to be adding synthetic, that had so many more cleaners and was more 
fuild would clean out the sludge, and since the gasket was dried out, would 
seap through and show up as a leak.

Mobile-1, and others, have fixed the situation, by adding gasket 
rejouvanators that rehydrate gaskets. Some have noticed that oils leaks 
going away after adding synthetics.

Now if you don't have leaks, and sludge is blocking off a large leak then you 
may notice a new leak..

Good luck.

George

-- Original message -- 

 Since there is a thread here on oil I was curious to ask if anyone has used 
 Mobil 1 and had problems with leaks prior to using? Question is does it leak 
 more or less after switching ? 
 
 
 Peter Frederick wrote: 
 
 Snort! 
  
 You may not be old enough to remember the unofficial test reported by 
 a chief engineer at Ford in the early 70's when Mobil first started 
 selling Mobil 1. 
  
 Seems Mobil had sent for some for engine testing when they got around 
 to it and it got stashed in the back room. During an engine endurance 
 test (with on the fly oil changes), the engineering department ran 
 short of the oil being tested and called the chief -- no oil, have to 
 cancel the endurance (testing to destruction) test. He said use that 
 weird stuff Mobil sent us til Monday when we get the right oil -- and 
 all the wear stopped in the engines while the Mobil product was in use 
 (it wasn't Mobil one, but an earlier similar formulation. 
  
 This convinced the chief engineer that Mobil was onto something, and 
 since he had just had a new company car, a fourdoor Continental, 
 delivered, he had the Mobil oil put in and tested for on the road use 
 by NEVER changing it -- new filter every 10,000 miles and level 
 maintained only. 
  
 At about 125,000 miles he stared to get nervous and had the engine torn 
 down, to discover essentiall NO wear -- most parts were 
 indisinguishable from new. Remember, this was about 1966 or so, when 
 both oil and gasoline weren't anywhere near what they are now. 
  
 The article was in Popular Mechanics or a similar magazine I read in 
 High School -- I graduated in 1974. 
  
 Mobil 1 and similar synthetic oils are vastly better lubricants than 
 mineral based oils (and are required for use in jet engines -- Amsoil 
 started out as re-packaged military spec oil for jet engines -- in 
 fact, using mineral oil in a jet engine will quickly kill it from 
 sludge buildup. 
  
 The only drawback is cost, and if you run synthetic oil 6000 miles 
 between changes rather than 3000 for dino, even that disadvantage goes 
 away. Note that dino oil , of any type, should NOT be run more than 
 3000 miles between changes. By that milage it is usually saturated 
 with water, the detergent qualities are starting to decline, and the 
 viscosity will start to change. All borne out by both oil analysis 
 (try it, you'll see) and both my personal and other people's results -- 
 we ran a 1992 Chevy box van, V6 engine, for 325,000 miles without ANY 
 engine work other than a water pump or two by changing the oil at 
 Speedy Oiler every 3000 miles. Not the hardiest engine, by far, and it 
 eventually got so low on compression it wouldn't start at all without 
 ether, but hey, 300,000 miles on detroit iron! 
  
 A friend of mine has a Chevy Blazer of similar vintage and 250,000 
 miles, still runs fine with a bit of blue smoke on startup (valve 
 guides probably), has always changed the oil every 3000 miles. 
  
 Peter 
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

it's referred to as 7.62MM though in the movies, so it would have to be a .32


At 06:02 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

NOPE. It was a .25 ACP Beretta that was replaced with
a 9mmKurz/.380 (same thing) PPK. Sure of it.

Christopher

--- Harry  M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you sure it was a .32 and not a .380 ? won't swear
 to it, but I remember it being a .380 beretta then
 he had the 7.62 Walther PPK


 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 JabbaHursty wrote:
 
  can you believe that bond carried a .32?
 
 In the books, M confiscated his Beretta (I think it
 was .25ACP) and gave him a PPK.
 I think he had to do it more than once, James liked
 those little Italian things.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 70.905.00.20.9 AC switch

2005-08-28 Thread 72benz250
Yeah, thanks.

Reminds me of a saying.

stupid people are like slinkies. Useless, but still puts a smile on your face 
when you push them down stairs 

;)

George

-- Original message -- 

 busted 
 
 

Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

Peter Frederick wrote:

Snort!

You may not be old enough to remember the unofficial test reported by 
a chief engineer at Ford in the early 70's when Mobil first started 
selling Mobil 1.


Seems Mobil had sent for some for engine testing when they got around 
to it and it got stashed in the back room.  During an engine endurance 
test (with on the fly oil changes), the engineering department ran 
short of the oil being tested and called the chief -- no oil, have to 
cancel the endurance (testing to destruction) test.  He said use that 
weird stuff Mobil sent us til Monday when we get the right oil -- and 
all the wear stopped in the engines while the Mobil product was in use 
(it wasn't Mobil one, but an earlier similar formulation.


This convinced the chief engineer that Mobil was onto something, and 
since he had just had a new company car, a fourdoor Continental, 
delivered, he had the Mobil oil put in and tested for on the road use 
by NEVER changing it -- new filter every 10,000 miles and level 
maintained only.


At about 125,000 miles he stared to get nervous and had the engine torn 
down, to discover essentiall NO wear -- most parts were 
indisinguishable from new.  Remember, this was about 1966 or so, when 
both oil and gasoline weren't anywhere near what they are now.


The article was in Popular Mechanics or a similar magazine I read in 
High School -- I graduated in 1974.


Mobil 1 and similar synthetic oils are vastly better lubricants than 
mineral based oils (and are required for use in jet engines -- Amsoil 
started out as re-packaged military spec oil for jet engines -- in 
fact, using mineral oil in a jet engine will quickly kill it from 
sludge buildup.


The only drawback is cost, and if you run synthetic oil 6000 miles 
between changes rather than 3000 for dino, even that disadvantage goes 
away.  Note that dino oil , of any type, should NOT be run more than 
3000 miles between changes.  By that milage it is usually saturated 
with water, the detergent qualities are starting to decline, and the 
viscosity will start to change.  All borne out by both oil analysis 
(try it, you'll see) and both my personal and other people's results -- 
we ran a 1992 Chevy box van, V6 engine, for 325,000 miles without ANY 
engine work other than a water pump or two by changing the oil at 
Speedy Oiler every 3000 miles.  Not the hardiest engine, by far, and it 
eventually got so low on compression it wouldn't start at all without 
ether, but hey, 300,000 miles on detroit iron!


A friend of mine has a Chevy Blazer of similar vintage and 250,000 
miles, still runs fine with a bit of blue smoke on startup (valve 
guides probably), has always changed the oil every 3000 miles.


Peter


Changing oil at 3kmi intervals is USUALLY very safe, but can be VERY 
wasteful. There is NOTHING wrong with Delo 400 or other group II oils 
(usually with VERY advanced additive packages) running considerably 
longer than 3kmi, but you can't count on how much longer it will last 
without testing. Few group I oils (that MUST use considerable quantities 
viscosity improvers to meet multigrade specifications) will last much 
longer than 3kmi because the VIs will breakdown and that's what results 
in MOST sludge and causes oil consumption to increase after a few kmi. 
It's seldom the base oil that breaks down. Most group III synthetics 
(like Rotella, Valvoline, Pennzoil, Quaker State, etc. synthetics) will 
last somewhere between conventional oil and the Group IV  V synthetics 
- the actual life usually depends on the amount and type of VI used. One 
reason why most Group IV and V synthetic oils last longer or MUCH longer 
is because they use fewer or NO VIs.


A car that is exclusively highway driven MAY permit the change interval 
to be extended 2-3X or even more, but it depends on a LOT of factors 
that many people are unwilling/unable to keep track of.


Unless the engine reaches optimal temperature and remains at that temp 
for 10-15 minutes or more each time it's started, water and some other 
combustion by-products will NOT be boiled off so the oil will need to be 
changed more frequently.


Operation in very cold, wet or dusty conditions require MORE frequent 
oil changes.


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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

yeah, i regret getting the glock instead of a sig for my .40

At 06:19 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

My sig .40 is my favorite, even my wife can handle it


Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pretty sure he carries the 9mm Walther P99 now.
Wouldn;t mind have a .40cal P99.

--- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The 7.65 Walther PPK is 32 Auto -- --

 On 8/27/05, Harry  M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  you sure it was a .32 and not a .380 ? won't swear
 to it, but I remember it being a .380 beretta then
 he had the 7.62 Walther PPK
 
 
  Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  JabbaHursty wrote:
  
   can you believe that bond carried a .32?

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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread

Chuck
On Aug 27, 2005, at 6:49 PM, JabbaHursty wrote:


federal
hydrashok
230grain




Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread

YEAH

I thought this is what Banned was for?

Mac




Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

Harry  M. wrote:
Since there is a thread here on oil I was curious to ask if anyone has used Mobil 1 and had problems with leaks prior to using? Question is does it leak more or less after switching ? 


Depends! If a hole is partially or entirely blocked by engine sludge, 
then changing to a Mobil synthetic will likely cause the engine to lead 
MORE (this is rare). You probably REALLY don't want to own most such an 
engine however! Such an engine has been abused. If the leak is from a 
slightly shrunken seal however, changing to Mobil synthetics will 
usually reduce or even stop the leak as they have incorporated an 
effective seal treatment into the additive package. This was NOT the 
case many years ago when Mobil first introduced synthetics and the 
switch from conventional oil of Mobil 1 allowed the seals to shrink. 
That has NOT been a problem in at least a decade (maybe longer).


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Re: [MBZ] 70.905.00.20.9 AC switch

2005-08-28 Thread redghost

I have a spare if you need it.

Push me down the stairs or not

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Yeah, thanks.
 
Reminds me of a saying.
 
stupid people are like slinkies. Useless, but still puts a smile on 
your face when you push them down stairs

 
;)
 
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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

I sure am!  damn gun nuts


At 09:52 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread

Chuck
On Aug 27, 2005, at 6:49 PM, JabbaHursty wrote:

 federal
 hydrashok
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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

i don't go to banned anymore

At 09:55 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

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YEAH

I thought this is what Banned was for?

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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread redghost
Well that would lead to a very dry day in the mercedes list.  I think 
other than the gun thread, we have six postings.


The rest of you get off your duff, unless you are hiding from the 
hurricane, and write


On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 06:52 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread

Chuck
On Aug 27, 2005, at 6:49 PM, JabbaHursty wrote:


federal
hydrashok
230grain


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[MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
missed it and can't find it in the archives...


So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let the
motor idle

I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
and it could cause damage!

Any thoughts?  Clogged line somewhere?


Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
shocks...

Anyway, Thanks in advance.





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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread LT Don
I think the technical term for this is NORMAL. 

On 8/27/05, hue wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
 missed it and can't find it in the archives...
 
 
 So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
 at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then it
 doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let the
 motor idle
 
 I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
 warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
 But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
 and it could cause damage!
 
 Any thoughts? Clogged line somewhere?
 
 
 Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
 suspensions? I just read a reference to it in the
 Chilton's manual. I thought they ran straight
 shocks...
 
 Anyway, Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
Normal?  really?  It usta bounce around right nice
before I put the car in storage  Now it just kinda
sticks up there at 3.

Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran non-desiel
rate oil for about 500-600 miles.  Could that be
gumming it up?



--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the technical term for this is NORMAL. 
 
 On 8/27/05, hue wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
  missed it and can't find it in the archives...
  
  
  So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge
 pegs
  at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then it
  doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let
 the
  motor idle
  
  I seem to think that it starts moving about after
 it
  warms up...( the car has sat for the last few
 months)
  But I want to make sure I'm not running it this
 way
  and it could cause damage!
  
  Any thoughts? Clogged line somewhere?
  
  
  Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the
 self-leveling
  suspensions? I just read a reference to it in the
  Chilton's manual. I thought they ran straight
  shocks...
  
  Anyway, Thanks in advance.
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
missed it and can't find it in the archives...


So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let the
motor idle

I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
and it could cause damage!

Any thoughts? 


THAT'S exactly what it should do.




Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
shocks...


ALL the 123 and 124 wagons have self leveling suspension.

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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right


When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after about
50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
drop down after that  

I seem to remember that the gauge would start
bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
first got the car, then right before I put it in to
storage about six months ago, it started going all the
way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take the
load of the engine...





--- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hue wong wrote:
  I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
  missed it and can't find it in the archives...
  
  
  So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge
 pegs
  at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then
 it
  doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let
 the
  motor idle
  
  I seem to think that it starts moving about after
 it
  warms up...( the car has sat for the last few
 months)
  But I want to make sure I'm not running it this
 way
  and it could cause damage!
  
  Any thoughts? 
 
 THAT'S exactly what it should do.
 
  
  
  Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the
 self-leveling
  suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
  Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
  shocks...
 
 ALL the 123 and 124 wagons have self leveling
 suspension.
 
 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

Normal?  really?  It usta bounce around right nice
before I put the car in storage  Now it just kinda
sticks up there at 3.

Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran non-desiel
rate oil for about 500-600 miles.  Could that be
gumming it up?


Approved oil of the proper viscosity should cause the needle to peg when 
the engine is started cold - and may remain pegged until the engine has 
run for 5-15 minutes. Then the needle usually will drop to between 1 and 
2 bar at hot warm idle. If oil viscosity becomes too high (because you 
are using an unsuitable oil, oil additive or the oil is contaminated in 
some way), the needle may read high. Simply change to an approved oil 
type and viscosity. If oil pressure get too high (above about 6 bar) 
there are relief valves in the filter housing and the pump housing that 
will open and prevent any problem.


Only problem with running a non-diesel rated oil (now that fuel sulfur 
has been reduced to less than 0.05%)) is that it will not handle soot as 
well and will require changing somewhat sooner. Changed at 500-1000 
miles, NO problem (if the viscosity rating was appropriate).


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong


Ya, I think I might have mixed the oil

I had, what I think was a loose oil return tube, off
the bottom of the air intake...  It leaked oil like a
feind, so I started dumping in gas station oil. 
Different makes of oil, and I always try and run
10-30, but am sure I mixed viscosity at some point...

I'm going to flush all the oil out tomorrow and change
the filters and see if that fixes the problem!

Thanks for the help!





--- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hue wong wrote:
  Normal?  really?  It usta bounce around right nice
  before I put the car in storage  Now it just
 kinda
  sticks up there at 3.
  
  Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran
 non-desiel
  rate oil for about 500-600 miles.  Could that be
  gumming it up?
 
 Approved oil of the proper viscosity should cause
 the needle to peg when 
 the engine is started cold - and may remain pegged
 until the engine has 
 run for 5-15 minutes. Then the needle usually will
 drop to between 1 and 
 2 bar at hot warm idle. If oil viscosity becomes too
 high (because you 
 are using an unsuitable oil, oil additive or the oil
 is contaminated in 
 some way), the needle may read high. Simply change
 to an approved oil 
 type and viscosity. If oil pressure get too high
 (above about 6 bar) 
 there are relief valves in the filter housing and
 the pump housing that 
 will open and prevent any problem.
 
 Only problem with running a non-diesel rated oil
 (now that fuel sulfur 
 has been reduced to less than 0.05%)) is that it
 will not handle soot as 
 well and will require changing somewhat sooner.
 Changed at 500-1000 
 miles, NO problem (if the viscosity rating was
 appropriate).
 
 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:


Ya, I think I might have mixed the oil

I had, what I think was a loose oil return tube, off
the bottom of the air intake...  It leaked oil like a
feind, so I started dumping in gas station oil. 
Different makes of oil, and I always try and run

10-30, but am sure I mixed viscosity at some point...

I'm going to flush all the oil out tomorrow and change
the filters and see if that fixes the problem!

There is really NO 10W-30 oil that I believe to be appropriate for a 
Mercedes diesel except maybe in sub zero (F) weather!


USE a 15W-40 if you are using a conventional oil.

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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
'84 300td

Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so  (

it's not running low, that is for sure...  Jumps right
up there and never comes down...)
I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something  I've
run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not
to sure of thier little quirks yet...)

Thanks!






--- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hue wong wrote:
  So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right
  
  
  When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after
 about
  50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
  drop down after that  
  
  I seem to remember that the gauge would start
  bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
  first got the car, then right before I put it in
 to
  storage about six months ago, it started going all
 the
  way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
  down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take
 the
  load of the engine...
 
 Precisely what year and model car are you talking
 about?? You seem to 
 have omitted that!
 
 If it's a 123 my answers stand as the direct reading
 Bourdon gauges 
 seldom if ever incorrectly read high. There is NO
 problem. If it's a 124 
 or 201 series car manufactured after 1984 with an
 electric gauge, the 
 gauge CAN incorrectly read high - may even read 3+
 bar when the ignition 
 key is on (but the engine is not running).
 
 ANY oil pressure between 3 and about 6 bar when
 driving is FINE. When 
 hot, idle pressure MUST remain above 0.5 bar (and
 1-2 bar is usual).
 
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
'84 300td

Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so  (

it's not running low, that is for sure...  Jumps right
up there and never comes down...)
I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something  I've
run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not
to sure of thier little quirks yet...)

Thanks!






--- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hue wong wrote:
  So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right
  
  
  When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after
 about
  50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
  drop down after that  
  
  I seem to remember that the gauge would start
  bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
  first got the car, then right before I put it in
 to
  storage about six months ago, it started going all
 the
  way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
  down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take
 the
  load of the engine...
 
 Precisely what year and model car are you talking
 about?? You seem to 
 have omitted that!
 
 If it's a 123 my answers stand as the direct reading
 Bourdon gauges 
 seldom if ever incorrectly read high. There is NO
 problem. If it's a 124 
 or 201 series car manufactured after 1984 with an
 electric gauge, the 
 gauge CAN incorrectly read high - may even read 3+
 bar when the ignition 
 key is on (but the engine is not running).
 
 ANY oil pressure between 3 and about 6 bar when
 driving is FINE. When 
 hot, idle pressure MUST remain above 0.5 bar (and
 1-2 bar is usual).
 
 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread 72benz250
I got my gojo from costco. Came in a gallon for under 5$.

My great grand kids will be using it ;)

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 OK Don wrote: 
  Wipe hands before entering the house, use Gojo or similar waterless 
  hand cleaner - and use an old tooth brush to get under and around the 
  finger nails. 
 
 Gojo is great stuff. I'm probably the last one in the world to discover 
 this, but it also works great for getting oily stains out of clothes. 
 Rub it into the stained area, wait a few minutes, then wash as usual. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

what does this have to do with guns?


At 10:47 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

hue wong wrote:
 I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
 missed it and can't find it in the archives...


 So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
 at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
 doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let the
 motor idle

 I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
 warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
 But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
 and it could cause damage!

 Any thoughts?

THAT'S exactly what it should do.



 Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
 suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
 Chilton's manual.  I thought they ran straight
 shocks...

ALL the 123 and 124 wagons have self leveling suspension.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Craig McCluskey wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:50:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
I got my gojo from costco. Came in a gallon for under 5$.

My great grand kids will be using it ;)
 
 
 Then again, maybe not. I find that the stuff separates (particularly if
 left in a warm garage) after a couple of years or so.

It still works okay as a hand cleaner after it's separated, in my
experience.  It's just less convenient because it's runnier.



Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Harry  M.
Never understood what was so great about the glock. just because it has a 
polymer frame and it can shoot under water. So can my sig

JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yeah, i regret getting the glock instead of a sig for my .40

At 06:19 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:
My sig .40 is my favorite, even my wife can handle it


Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pretty sure he carries the 9mm Walther P99 now.
 Wouldn;t mind have a .40cal P99.
 
 --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The 7.65 Walther PPK is 32 Auto -- --
 
  On 8/27/05, Harry  M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   you sure it was a .32 and not a .380 ? won't swear
  to it, but I remember it being a .380 beretta then
  he had the 7.62 Walther PPK
  
  
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   JabbaHursty wrote:
   
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Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch

2005-08-28 Thread Royce Engler
Oh yeah, I forgot about you being one of those candy-a$$ed flyboys GRIN

Sailors belong on ships and ships belong at sea!!!  Haze gray and
underway

Here's a cool picture of a new test ship being evaluated...
http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/military_photos_20058271.asp

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   -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don
  Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 6:45 PM
  To: Mercedes mailing list
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch


  actually, it is an aviation thing -- I was a sailor but in twenty years
I spent a total of 3 days at sea (during OCS and under duress) and 1600
hours up in the air.



Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Mitch Haley
JabbaHursty wrote:
 
 i can't  really fully grasp why the military changed from such a
 completely proven and effective weapon as the 1911.  i'm told it was
 cost savings.  i also suspect that the influx of women into the
 military also has something to do with it (not that a woman could not
 be trained in the use of the 1911 as well as a man could be, but the
 9 is more comfortable to shoot)

I always figured it was matching our equipment to NATO allies.



Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

'84 300td

Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so  (

it's not running low, that is for sure...  Jumps right
up there and never comes down...)
I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something  I've
run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not
to sure of thier little quirks yet...)


If you needed to know that the pressure was 6, Mercedes could have given 
you a gauge that read 6! They give you a gauge that carefully reads 
where oil pressure is critical - between 0 and 3. You NEED to know that 
the pressure is at least 3 when the rpm is 2500-3000 rpm or higher and 
is always above 0.5 at idle. That's the critical range.


You SHOULD be sure that the oil is suitable for a diesel. I recommend a 
CF or better rating and an xW-40 or xW-50 rating (CH-4 thru CI-4 rated 
oils are probably a bit more desirable, but that's hardly critical). The 
x should be some number between 0 and 15 (I don't know of a diesel 
rated 20X-xx oil but there MIGHT be one there somewhere). Most 
conventional diesel rated oils are 15W-40. In MY OPINION the best of 
these diesel 15W-40 oils are Chevron Delo 400 and Mobil Delvac 1300. The 
others commonly available in the US (Rotella, Exxon, Castrol, etc.) are 
inferior, rather ordinary, but can certainly provide suitable lubrication.


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

JabbaHursty wrote:

what does this have to do with guns?


Thank God for Hursty - always keeping us on track!

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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
It was a political move designed to more align is with out NATO allies. The
same allies who for the most part, sat back  and watched us invade Iraq.

There were other motivators, the biggest one being the weight of the
ammunition.


Thanks,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

JabbaHursty wrote:
 
 i can't  really fully grasp why the military changed from such a 
 completely proven and effective weapon as the 1911.  i'm told it was 
 cost savings.  i also suspect that the influx of women into the 
 military also has something to do with it (not that a woman could not 
 be trained in the use of the 1911 as well as a man could be, but the
 9 is more comfortable to shoot)

I always figured it was matching our equipment to NATO allies.

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[MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread Dan Landiss
Re: list splitting. 206 messages in 24 hours is sufficient cause. I'll 
hang around another day or so to see if the content justifies the 
volume, and if this keeps up I'll take a vacation and look back in later.


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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread RAH
Curt Raymond  wrote:

 The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who are bad at math.
 Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm is MUCH higher 
 velocity than the .45 with insignificantly less mass. The 9mm 
 simply has more stopping power with less recoil and weight than the .45.
 
  http://www.manatarmsbooks.com/excerpt.html
Here is some real world history on why Big and Slow is better than Small and 
Fast. In close range combat.   Russ H.  





Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread MClaus8331
 



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a
 whole lot of fun.
  
  mac



Re: [MBZ] 123 Brakes

2005-08-28 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Well, this happened while I was going straight down the highway at
speed. No cornering involved. I've also had times when my brakes would
be piss poor after the car sat for a while. There'd be a good shudder
under braking. I'd drive really carefully on backroads for a while
while applying pressure to even them out. They're fine now. Doesn't
mean that I don't need a brake job tho.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TimothyPilgrim wrote:
  I had the reverse problem one time. I pushed down on the brake and it
  went totally soft, almost to the floor. Scared the hell outta me
  because I was on the highway at the time doing 70 mph. I got off the
  highway onto slower streets, and the problem has never happened since.
  Just that one press was all it was.
 
 It might have been pad kickback. Pad kickback happens when the rotor
 shifts enough, usually under heavy cornering loads, to push the brake
 pads back into the calipers.  When you step on the pedal, nothing
 happens at first because you're pushing the pads back into position.  It
 feels very similar to the first pump or two when you're seating new pads
 after a brake job.
 
 Some cars have particular problems with this.  I've never heard of it
 happening on a Mercedes, but maybe if the wheel bearing play is excessive?
 
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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

it may be something as they are sold cheaply in bulk to law enforcement


At 07:01 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:
Never understood what was so great about the 
glock. just because it has a polymer frame and 
it can shoot under water. So can my sig


JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yeah, i regret getting the glock instead of a sig for my .40

At 06:19 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:
My sig .40 is my favorite, even my wife can handle it


Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pretty sure he carries the 9mm Walther P99 now.
 Wouldn;t mind have a .40cal P99.
 
 --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The 7.65 Walther PPK is 32 Auto -- --
 
  On 8/27/05, Harry  M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   you sure it was a .32 and not a .380 ? won't swear
  to it, but I remember it being a .380 beretta then
  he had the 7.62 Walther PPK
  
  
   Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   JabbaHursty wrote:
   
can you believe that bond carried a .32?
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

he lives in quebec


At 12:23 PM 8/28/2005, you wrote:

Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?

Tim
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On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, 
it isn't a

 whole lot of fun.

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
The first one was a fluke, when I was about 15 growing up in Montreal,
drunken crazy old guy with a shotgun thought that was how you settled noise
complaints with parties next door.

Second time, I drove into a holdup of a gas station.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?
 
 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby
 
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 Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a
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[MBZ] 240d - 300sd auto trans the same?

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
Is the auto trans used in the w123 240d, say 1982, the same 'small' unit as
the one used in the w126 300sd (which if memory serves was a 1982- change
to the smaller unit?).

Mac 



Re: [MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread jrobbins
Personally, the traffic doesn't really bother me, but I can see how that 
much would bother others...  would be nice to have a MBZ list and then a 
general chat  MBZ list...  would make the filtering significantly easier 
;)


John

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Dan Landiss wrote:


Re: list splitting. 206 messages in 24 hours is sufficient cause. I'll
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volume, and if this keeps up I'll take a vacation and look back in later.

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[MBZ] RR of rear trailing arm bushings 82 300SD

2005-08-28 Thread RAH
Has anyone RR the rear trailing arm bushings on a 126 (82 300SD) while 
replacing the front bushing of the rear subframe? Can this be done with the 
spring in place?  FSM only shows RR of bushings while rear trailing arm is 
completely removed from car.Russ H.

Re: [MBZ] R-12

2005-08-28 Thread ms.300SD
Wow. I guess I got the super deal with I was the only bidder on a 30# tank 
of virgin freon. 250.00 delivered to the house

The 300SD is quite chilly once again! Yay!

Lynn
'85 300SD 190k miles


Re: [MBZ] Neutral safety switch

2005-08-28 Thread Dennis Perkins

Lt. Don and all who contributed,

Thanks for the info.  I'm going to wtart with the switch then on to the 
ignition switch if that doesn't work.


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD



Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neutral safety switch
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It is on the side of the transmission, driver's side. It isn't difficult to
get to if the car is on a lift or wheel ramps, but it is pretty close
quarters if all four wheels are sitting on the pavement.





[MBZ] 84 300Dt Climate Control

2005-08-28 Thread Russ Williams

A buddy of mine has a  '84 300Dt and is having problems with his A/C.
Here's whats happing. When he turns on the A/C it will blow cold air for 
about

2 or 3 days. Then the Blower Motor fuse No.8 blows and also the Rear window
Defrost fuse No.10 blows.
I haven't had time to pull the blower motor and check it for crud.
Does anybody have the PDF for the Climate Control system?
My CD doesn't have the Climate Control wiring diagram.
We have disconnected the Rear Window switch from the system and it's
still blowing the fuse.

The PO had problems with the window switches and had some IDIOT work
on them. We are still trying to sort out that problem. So I don't know 
what else

he did to the electrical system.

Any ideas or advise will greatly appreciated.
No Back to changing out the center bearing on the new 240D and
getting ready for Miss Katrina's  visit tomorrow.

Russ W.
'83 240D x 2



Re: [MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread Rory
Get a gmail account and who cares how msgs. you get, it has a nice format 
treads.

Rory

On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Personally, the traffic doesn't really bother me, but I can see how that
 much would bother others... would be nice to have a MBZ list and then a
 general chat  MBZ list... would make the filtering significantly easier
 ;)
 
 John
 
 On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Dan Landiss wrote:
 
  Re: list splitting. 206 messages in 24 hours is sufficient cause. I'll
  hang around another day or so to see if the content justifies the
  volume, and if this keeps up I'll take a vacation and look back in 
 later.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread OK Don
Then you don't have enough old Benz's!

On 8/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I got my gojo from costco. Came in a gallon for under 5$. 
   
 My great grand kids will be using it ;)
  

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Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread OK Don
You can stir it up again -- 


  Then again, maybe not. I find that the stuff separates (particularly if
  left in a warm garage) after a couple of years or so.
 
 It still works okay as a hand cleaner after it's separated, in my
 experience.  It's just less convenient because it's runnier.


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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Hargrave wrote:
 It was a political move designed to more align is with out NATO allies. The
 same allies who for the most part, sat back  and watched us invade Iraq.

Maybe they smelled the bullshit when Colin Powell told them why we were
invading.  Gotta admit, he had me fooled, though.



Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Agreed.
I'm in the smaller, lighter, faster camp. Allows me to carry more ammunition, 
be more accurate, have less recoil, and shoot more often.
 
The guy who just knocked the cow down was almost certainly using hollow point 
bullets. Cow's gotta thick skull, you hit it there with a hollow point and the 
force gets dispersed. For that shot you use a smaller FMJ to let that thing zip 
into the cranial cavity and bounce around.
 
For self defense I've got a .357 mag Ruger Security six. 125grain HP or 
semi-wadcutters pack a whallop. No need to load it hot so recoil isn't really 
an issue.
 
Lets also remember that 9mm is not so much smaller than .380 in diameter...
 
-Curt
 
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:21:39 -0400
From: JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


it's an endless source of debate, but there seems more to it than 
calculating simple force

  i tend to be in the big and slow camp.  230grain hollowpoint .45 
ACP is my choice for carry.  in terms of a defensive handgun, my 
thought is .45 ACP or .357 magnum

i just got the casull to be stupid.  i do intend to get proficient 
with it though, but i don't imagine it will ever be a practical 
defensive weapon




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Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond

Actually it reads more like small and slow vs. big and slow. I like shooting a 
.38, there are many well balanced comfortable .38s but they've got zip for 
stopping power even compared to the 9mm.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:10:46 -0400
From: RAH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Curt Raymond  wrote:

 The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who are bad at math.
 Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm is MUCH higher 
 velocity than the .45 with insignificantly less mass. The 9mm 
 simply has more stopping power with less recoil and weight than the 
.45.
 
  http://www.manatarmsbooks.com/excerpt.html
Here is some real world history on why Big and Slow is better than 
Small and Fast. In close range combat.   Russ H.  



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Re: [MBZ] THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread Bucks2
My sympathy to you and yours. It is never the right time to lose one of the 
good guys. 

Ken
Tacoma Fire


In a message dated 8/27/2005 10:17:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


HI all 
for the record I am a phila policeman 
the  story attached is my friend and ex partner  policeman  Terrence Flomo 
he was killed Friday morning by 2 jit bags


Re: [MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread Bucks2
I agree Dick. Let's throw the diesel stuff off and get back to talking about 
real Mercedes. One could think that the diesel folks could have their own oil 
discussion list and the rest of us could discuss general stuff.

Ken 
YTTIC


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Dan Landiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] List Splitting
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: list splitting. 206 messages in 24 hours is sufficient cause. I'll 
hang around another day or so to see if the content justifies the 
volume, and if this keeps up I'll take a vacation and look back in later.


[MBZ] Finally fixed my sagging rear - on my car, that is

2005-08-28 Thread meadedillon

Shipmates,

Yesterday I had a few spare hours, so I installed a new control valve 
(thanks Rusty - less than $200!!) for the self-leveling system on rear axle 
of my '85 300TD.  Loaded down the back of the car with ~400lbs, bled it out, 
cycled it up and down a few times.  Unloaded the car, and then drove over a 
set of bumps several times.


I think I've achieved success.  Right now the star-to-fender-lip height is 
just under 13 inches.  No change in height after sitting for ~24 hours.  I 
checked the return line at the reservoir - no more drip, drip, drip.


I'm going to play with the adjusting arm, and try to get it closer to 12.75 
inches, before I call it completely done.


Thanks to all who offered advice, especially David Bruckman.  Now I've got 
two old valves to play with, going to see if I can fix those and sell them 
on Ebay.


Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
'85 300TD 323k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC