[MBZ] 190E 16V Parts
Wasn't there someone on the list parting out a 190E 16v? I'm going to look at one tomorrow that may have missing parts - but then again I couldn't really understand what the guy was telling me, so who knows. But if your parting one out, please get it touch! TIA, Mike Hall
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh -- Little Bearings?
I hope you are right about all the 60x ingines using the same pump, but Rusty'e site shows a different pump for the earlier run of 602 engines in the 300D 2.5 -- http://tinyurl.com/opbsc The replacement vacuum pump from Pierburg is identical for all OM60x engines manufactured between 1984 and 1997 and I believe thru 1999 (but I can't confirm that for '98 and '99 models). There were modifications to the pump, at least 3 that I know of and probably more that I don't know of. Some of these resulted MAY have resulted in different Mercedes part numbers, but they are all 7.20607 pumps. The latest ones have four screws on the outside and are supposed to be somewhat longer lived than the earlier ones with the front cover that's crimped on, but from what I've heard, they are starting to fail at about 200kmi. I expect the life of the pump is very closely related to how clean the oil remains! http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/D300056042APG.JPG Picture of pump from Rusty's catalog. Marshall -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Bird in Star
I had to pull about half of a sparrow out of an air scoop on the side of a Cessna 150 once --- I bet that the motorcycle/miniskirt/cop photo was staged. As to the bird in the star - a bit of bad luck for the bird. My mother nailed a partridge with her Honda Civic a few years ago and drove it into the lower part of the grill so hard that it ended up inside the grill. We had a devil of a time getting it out. Had to use long nosed pliers and pull it out in pieces - messy. Randy B -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector
it's funny because both companies are 5 miles from where i grew up. On 3/20/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bah. Get a Valentine-1. http://www.valentine1.com/ :) -dm -- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector This is always advertised in the Star. Looks good. Anybody here have feedback on it? http://www.escortradar.com/x50.htm Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Anyone in Dallas, TX with a digicam? (500E bling)
I only ask because I'm staring at my old 74 240D plates on the wall (long expired) and they look the same. I'd take a picture and attach it, but it'd get stripped and I don't know how to tack it on to the end of the msg. On 3/20/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not Ohio plates, Idaho plates. The owner has it registered in Idaho. It's being sold on consignment by Ruf Porsche in Dallas. The owner of the 500E allegedly also owns a Ruf Yellow Bird. For those wondering what Ruf is (other than what your dog says), click here: http://www.fast-autos.com/rufcenter.html :) -dm -- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:04:28 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone in Dallas, TX with a digicam? (500E bling) if it's in texas, why does it have Ohio plates on it? On 3/20/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://rufautocentre.com/usedcars/car024.asp ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
Kaleb helped me out on another list (before I found this one again) on a massive oil leak on my just purchased 85 300SD. He correctly identified the hole in the oil cooler. Sourced out an upper oil cooler line at about half the dealer's asking price. It arrived today, but have just spent the last three hours in frustration trying to install it. I cut out the old one, so it came out easily. However I can't find the right combination to weave it through from the oil filter to the oil cooler. Been removing parts to make it easier to get at, but nothing is working. Anyone been there, done that with this? Thanks, Martin 85 300SD 84 300SD Misc VW diesel 94 Dodge Cummins carbucks wrote: List wisdom rules! Kaleb nailed it. The PO or their mechanic had routed the upper oil cooler line too close to the belt for the air conditioner compressor. Over time, the belt had worn a groove and eventally a hole into the cooler line. Now I just need to find an online parts supplier who will ship to Canada. Thanks to all who responded, Martin Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Sounds like you have a pin hole in one of the oil cooler lines. Martin Buck wrote: Hi, Quite sure it's engine oil as it has the same consistency and colour as what I see on the dipstick. I was down two litres on the dipstick. The other symptom is the power steering began to act up at the same time. There is so much oil at the front it's coming off the v-belts and sprayilng up on each of the fenders when the hood is open. Wondering if the oil is causing the belt to slip. Checked the power steering fluid and it was down about two inches from the top. Thanks for the response, Martin
Re: [MBZ] 190E 16V Parts
mhall27 wrote: Wasn't there someone on the list parting out a 190E 16v? Alan Duff had one for sale last fall at a parts car price, but he ended up keeping it and was having it repaired last I heard. I intend to convert mine into a 190Dt, surplus items will include a rusty and crashed 190Dt body and a strong running 16v engine. I know of a 16v in either Iowa or Oklahoma, no engine or seats, I can try to find the owner's contact info if you want it. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
Have you jacked the engine up a bit from the mounts? Also, it's easier to start the threads on both ends before tightening them down. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
Haven't tried that yet. So I need to undo the mounts and then jack it up? Thanks, Martin Jeff Zedic wrote: Have you jacked the engine up a bit from the mounts? Also, it's easier to start the threads on both ends before tightening them down. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh -- Little Bearings?
OK Don wrote: I hope you are right about all the 60x ingines using the same pump, but Rusty'e site shows a different pump for the earlier run of 602 engines in the 300D 2.5 -- http://tinyurl.com/opbsc You are correct. The are both 7.20607 pumps but one is a 7.20607.74 and the other is a 7.20607.25. I believe the mechanisms to be identical (the housings are slightly different), but I can't prove that. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
carbucks wrote: Haven't tried that yet. So I need to undo the mounts and then jack it up? Don't jack it up too far unless you unhook the engine shock too, but I don't think you will get the lines in without at least undoing the left mount and raising the engine a bit.
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh -- Little Bearings?
But will the .25 bolt up and work instead of the .74 on this engine? Anyone BTDT? On 3/20/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: I hope you are right about all the 60x ingines using the same pump, -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] 190D needs 603
Now here's a car that's just drying for a 603 engine and intercooler -- http://tinyurl.com/nsxtk -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:22 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 060320 2.581 2.606 2.702 2.697 2.558 2.533 2.552 2.608 2.716 2.738 060313 2.543 2.567 2.687 2.681 2.507 2.491 2.497 2.566 2.725 2.747 060306 2.545 2.571 2.656 2.682 2.516 2.500 2.499 2.545 2.711 2.739 060227 2.471 2.493 2.593 2.593 2.441 2.417 2.443 2.509 2.623 2.688 060220 2.455 2.487 2.593 2.580 2.437 2.398 2.427 2.497 2.594 2.674 060213 2.476 2.509 2.617 2.591 2.464 2.419 2.447 2.500 2.621 2.709 060206 2.499 2.536 2.659 2.618 2.490 2.445 2.463 2.503 2.645 2.739 060130 2.489 2.530 2.661 2.618 2.481 2.431 2.455 2.474 2.640 2.733 060123 2.472 2.516 2.668 2.610 2.462 2.423 2.432 2.435 2.608 2.674 060116 2.449 2.489 2.663 2.605 2.424 2.408 2.415 2.411 2.565 2.603 060109 2.485 2.528 2.676 2.626 2.473 2.451 2.453 2.421 2.577 2.601 060102 2.442 2.481 2.645 2.590 2.420 2.412 2.414 2.392 2.519 2.538 051226 2.448 2.481 2.643 2.599 2.416 2.420 2.421 2.410 2.523 2.543 051219 2.462 2.499 2.647 2.609 2.438 2.443 2.435 2.410 2.505 2.521 051212 2.436 2.458 2.598 2.577 2.393 2.409 2.429 2.401 2.500 2.465 051205 2.425 2.428 2.591 2.569 2.354 2.390 2.411 2.471 2.538 2.486 051128 2.479 2.467 2.619 2.604 2.394 2.442 2.456 2.591 2.617 2.559 051121 2.513 2.491 2.652 2.615 2.423 2.477 2.491 2.654 2.652 2.599 051114 2.602 2.565 2.699 2.689 2.500 2.575 2.585 2.766 2.738 2.717 051107 2.698 2.657 2.744 2.755 2.608 2.671 2.679 2.907 2.821 2.797 051031 2.876 2.784 2.834 2.848 2.753 2.907 2.846 3.079 2.951 2.936 051024 3.157 3.051 2.873 2.940 3.115 3.235 3.146 3.232 3.142 3.152 051017 3.148 3.116 2.913 2.966 3.199 3.144 3.177 3.178 3.178 3.210 051010 3.150 3.160 2.947 2.990 3.252 3.123 3.182 3.143 3.167 3.240 051003 3.144 3.198 3.012 3.040 3.283 3.083 3.185 3.079 3.174 3.262 050926 2.798 2.808 2.859 2.875 2.775 2.739 2.756 2.938 2.978 3.031 050919 2.732 2.749 2.804 2.846 2.702 2.648 2.677 2.902 2.985 3.060 050912 2.847 2.849 2.920 2.935 2.806 2.782 2.797 2.957 3.093 3.158 050905 2.898 2.900 2.977 2.993 2.853 2.843 2.833 2.976 3.149 3.250 050829 2.590 2.564 2.649 2.654 2.518 2.532 2.508 2.726 2.920 3.045 050822 2.588 2.564 2.642 2.654 2.519 2.540 2.512 2.679 2.897 3.037 050815 2.567 2.544 2.618 2.633 2.499 2.524 2.481 2.615 2.891 3.042 050808 2.407 2.386 2.492 2.484 2.334 2.336 2.323 2.486 2.801 2.943 050801 2.348 2.356 2.488 2.465 2.297 2.292 2.279 2.421 2.594 2.657 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188
Re: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector
I second that, mines 4 years old and still stomps on the Escort 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:56:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector Bah. Get a Valentine-1. http://www.valentine1.com/ :) -dm -- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector This is always advertised in the Star. Looks good. Anybody here have feedback on it? http://www.escortradar.com/x50.htm Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh -- Little Bearings?
OK Don wrote: But will the .25 bolt up and work instead of the .74 on this engine? Anyone BTDT? I don't think so, but I've never tried substituting them. If they were interchangeable, I'm sure that Mercedes would eliminate one of them so they didn't have to stock two different versions. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
Found in PC Mag of all places - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1938884,00.asp?kc=PCRSS04029TX1K633 I think they are only bringing in the vergassers though - what a pity. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
It makes it easier, yes
Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
Thanks to all who replied. Came across this posting in alt.auto.mercedes that confirms you have to raise the engine. Martin From: Russ Maki Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thurs, Jun 29 2000 12:00 am Groups: alt.auto.mercedes On my '82 300cd, the lower line has to come out first to get at the upper line. Maybe that's different on the S cars of the era. This procedure works for removing both lines on my car (you might as well do both). I assume it works for other cars with the 5-cyl turbo diesel engine: 1) Detach the hoses at the filter and oil cooler. Removing the fan and shroud may help you get at the fitting at the oil cooler end of the lower hose. Make sure you remove the clamps holding the lines in place at the AC compressor and in front of the engine mount. A 10-inch Crescent wrench works nicely on the line fittings. 2) Jack up the left side of the car so the LF wheel is 2-3 inches off the ground. Use a jack stand under the left frame rail to secure the car in its raised position. 3) Detach the driver's-side motor mount and engine shock absorber. You'll need to crawl under the car to remove the engine-to-mount bolt and lower nut on the engine shock. There's a flat area on the lower shaft of the shock where you can use a 7mm open-end wrench to keep the shaft from spinning while you're turning the nut. 4) Put a jack under the left side of the engine and lift it 3 inches. If you use a block of 2x4 and take care, you should be able to jack it up under a corner of the oil pan. 5) Remove the old lines by sliding them down and out at the back of the engine bay. You'll need to rotate them a little, but they do come out without a lot of difficulty. 6) Installation is the reverse of removal. Take care not to cross-thread the fittings at the oil cooler -- you don't want to strip the threads on the cooler. I also used a little pipe sealer on the joints to prevent leaks. Whew! Not a fun job. While you have things unbuttoned, it may be time to replace the engine mount and engine shock . Not to mention the water pump and fan clutch. HTH, Russ Jeff Zedic wrote: It makes it easier, yes ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Jeff Zedic wrote: It makes it easier, yes ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
Build your own Smart Car: Cost is nothing .See a lot of them in Canada MB dealer has them on display. http://smartcarusa.digitaldistrict.de/index.php?id=126 Bill 1981 300 TD OK Don wrote: Found in PC Mag of all places - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1938884,00.asp?kc=PCRSS04029TX1K633 I think they are only bringing in the vergassers though - what a pity. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
Hey, for one of those I will stoop to burning E85 (when it is available in corn country). On 3/20/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found in PC Mag of all places - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1938884,00.asp?kc=PCRSS04029TX1K633 I think they are only bringing in the vergassers though - what a pity. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] OT was bird in star, now bicycle wheel drops off
In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:19:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I have had that happen to me on a bicycle once. The thing is the weight of the bike will keep wheel on till you try to do a wheelie. Thus on a street bike you would never bee doing a wheelie. When I tried to do the wheelie on the bicycle I was not going fast and ended up talking in a higher pitch voice for awhile. Non-believers, It was over 50 years ago when I was riding my bike home from school. A nice easy down hill grade on the main street of town. I usually come off the road via the driveway of our neighbor's house and pop a little wheelie as I ramp up onto the sidewalk. Oh yea!! you guessed it. The front wheel dropped off and the forks made grooves in the sidewalk that I bet are still there. God protects fools and children as I somersaulted over the handle bars and landed on the sidewalk, still carrying a fair amount of speed! My feet hit first and took a lot of the impact off and I ended up with only a few scratches on my hands. I don't remember if that bike had the little safety hooks that retain the front axle, (this was the early 50s) but if they did, I surely took them off . I was all the time adjusting and/or replacing those bearings. OSHA who? Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 141 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo - Need ALDA Info.
In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:50:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm seeing a feeling of being pushed back in the seat - smoothly and progressively as rpm's build between 2000 and 3000 rpm. Then it's a steady acceleration. But at times I don't notice the push (for lack of a better term) as the turbo spools up and the scenery starts to go by more quickly. That's my question - it seems to be more noticable at some times while other times, it just gradually adds speed - still quickly, but not with the feeling of being pressed into the seat. When I learned I didn't have an ALDA in my W123 240D, I ignored the posts when it was being discussed. I plan to read the manual to see how it works and what adjustments are suggested but if the list would provide their experiences with ALDA and what they did / how they did it -- I'd really appreciate it as the workshop manual is not always clear. Larry, The ALDA changes the injected fuel quantity as atmospheric pressure and/or boost pressure varies. Below is what I wrote in reply to previous inquiries. I think it is important enough to repeat the main theme here. I, and others on this list, believe that the injection pump calibration shifts towards leaner as the pump ages. To correct this you can spend big bucks, pull the inector pump and send it to a Bosch shop for recalibrating. OR... you can change the setting on the ALDA to compensate. This is wy cheaper: I firmly believe that as the fuel injection pump ages, the calibration goes towards the lean side, due to softening of springs and wear of various levers and fulcrums. This results in weak off-the-line performance, especially when starting out with a cold engine. Jerking the FI pump and having it recalibrated could fix this problem but it's expensive. What I believe WILL give you a kick in the pants is adding to that shim between the ALDA/compensater, and the FI pump. That will give you more fuel off-idle, before the boost comes in, and the car will really step out. Especially watch the improvement when starting out cold. The shim measurements are 0.705 OD, and 0.560 ID. You should be able to duplicate the shim, in various thickness, with a Dremel and some flat washers. You need a 25mm wrench (1 inch works) to turn the nut on the FI pump clockwise while holding the ALDA with a strap wrench, big pliers, or ? Once the nut breaks loose it is easy to turn and release the ALDA. Watch for shims in the base of the ALDA and/or the top of the FI pump. Use a thin screwdriver to probe for the shims as they are virtually invisible. I would return all existing shims or their equal, plust .040 to .060 additional shims, to compensate for calibration shift in the FI pumps due to age. There is no way of knowing how much each individual car will need-what we are looking for is a much improved jump off idle, before the boost comes in, and especially when the engine is cold. All this without excess smoke at WOT on a sunny day, and no big increase in fuel consumption Typically, those that break the seal on the turbo ALDAs to get to the adjusting screw get about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 turns CCW before they hit the thread limit--at .025 per revolution, that would be about like a .040 shim. I have not heard of anyone coming back CW off the max, but I have heard of people twisting off the screw, trying to get more!Hence the reason for shims-the screws can be used for fine tuning, if needed. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 141 K miles
Re: [MBZ] OT was bird in star, now bicycle wheel drops off
The thing I keep thinking about in all of this is where were the brakes? On the bikes I've had for the brake pads to be close enough to the rim to do any good they're tighter together than the tire... Of course I've never ridden a street bike any amount and I never had a bike with a pedal backwards brake. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:30:54 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT was bird in star, now bicycle wheel drops off To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:19:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I have had that happen to me on a bicycle once. The thing is the weight of the bike will keep wheel on till you try to do a wheelie. Thus on a street bike you would never bee doing a wheelie. When I tried to do the wheelie on the bicycle I was not going fast and ended up talking in a higher pitch voice for awhile. Non-believers, It was over 50 years ago when I was riding my bike home from school. A nice easy down hill grade on the main street of town. I usually come off the road via the driveway of our neighbor's house and pop a little wheelie as I ramp up onto the sidewalk. Oh yea!! you guessed it. The front wheel dropped off and the forks made grooves in the sidewalk that I bet are still there. God protects fools and children as I somersaulted over the handle bars and landed on the sidewalk, still carrying a fair amount of speed! My feet hit first and took a lot of the impact off and I ended up with only a few scratches on my hands. I don't remember if that bike had the little safety hooks that retain the front axle, (this was the early 50s) but if they did, I surely took them off . I was all the time adjusting and/or replacing those bearings. OSHA who? Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 141 K miles - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 21 13:23:23 2006 Received: from webmail.knology.net ([69.73.24.20] helo=webmail1.knology.net) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1FLgpW-0004SP-Sb for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:23:22 + Received: (qmail 15634 invoked by uid 400); 21 Mar 2006 13:15:07 - Date: 21 Mar 2006 13:15:07 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Knology Webmail Dec 2003 Release X-IPAddress: 205.242.83.12 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 85 380SL Oil Pan X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:23:23 - A friend at work recently bought a '85 380SL. It's leaving some oil on the garage floor and he thinks it is the oil pan. I cautioned him to be sure by getting the bottom of the engine clean to locate the source. I took a glance underneath and it looks like a full oil pan with no lower pan cover. Also looks pretty tight with the crossmember and tie rods. Anyone changed the pan gasket before and know the procedure? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] Cargo Largo
One of these days Im going to have to tour KC. Dont they have alot of old big houses up there? Christopher McCann wrote: There are several cave complexes around Kansas City. Yes, one of them is used by major film producers to strore film. One is about 5 miles from my house. It is a regular stop on my tour of KC for visitors. Chris -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
You will have to remove the motor mount bolt from under the car, lift the engine a little, then remove the motor mount arm on that side. carbucks wrote: Kaleb helped me out on another list (before I found this one again) on a massive oil leak on my just purchased 85 300SD. He correctly identified the hole in the oil cooler. Sourced out an upper oil cooler line at about half the dealer's asking price. It arrived today, but have just spent the last three hours in frustration trying to install it. I cut out the old one, so it came out easily. However I can't find the right combination to weave it through from the oil filter to the oil cooler. Been removing parts to make it easier to get at, but nothing is working. Anyone been there, done that with this? Thanks, Martin 85 300SD 84 300SD Misc VW diesel 94 Dodge Cummins carbucks wrote: List wisdom rules! Kaleb nailed it. The PO or their mechanic had routed the upper oil cooler line too close to the belt for the air conditioner compressor. Over time, the belt had worn a groove and eventally a hole into the cooler line. Now I just need to find an online parts supplier who will ship to Canada. Thanks to all who responded, Martin Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Sounds like you have a pin hole in one of the oil cooler lines. Martin Buck wrote: Hi, Quite sure it's engine oil as it has the same consistency and colour as what I see on the dipstick. I was down two litres on the dipstick. The other symptom is the power steering began to act up at the same time. There is so much oil at the front it's coming off the v-belts and sprayilng up on each of the fenders when the hood is open. Wondering if the oil is causing the belt to slip. Checked the power steering fluid and it was down about two inches from the top. Thanks for the response, Martin ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
I have been watching that one for several days getting ready to bid on it. OK Don wrote: Now here's a car that's just drying for a 603 engine and intercooler -- http://tinyurl.com/nsxtk -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 85 380SL Oil Pan
You have to pull the engine or drop the subframe on the 107 Alan Duff wrote: A friend at work recently bought a '85 380SL. It's leaving some oil on the garage floor and he thinks it is the oil pan. I cautioned him to be sure by getting the bottom of the engine clean to locate the source. I took a glance underneath and it looks like a full oil pan with no lower pan cover. Also looks pretty tight with the crossmember and tie rods. Anyone changed the pan gasket before and know the procedure? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cargo Largo
I'll take you on a tour of the Big house at Ft Madison if you want to see a real big house. At 08:36 AM 3/21/2006, you wrote: One of these days Im going to have to tour KC. Dont they have alot of old big houses up there? Christopher McCann wrote: There are several cave complexes around Kansas City. Yes, one of them is used by major film producers to strore film. One is about 5 miles from my house. It is a regular stop on my tour of KC for visitors. Chris -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch struts AND vacuum line
Danke, Herr Doktor! Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: The RR of the struts took 2.5 hours with essentially no instructions. No torx bolts, no heating required. Could easily do it in an hour second time around. Had help from my mechanically inclined friend charlie (240D 240D). NOW, NONE of the door locks work via vacuum. I imagine we cracked a vacuum line while pulling the struts out...any ideas on where exactly to look for that line? The diagrams here point out where the parts are located: http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC2/Program/Chassis/80-900.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 21 14:57:13 2006 Received: from web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.69]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FLiIK-0006LX-A3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:57:13 + Received: (qmail 75955 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2006 14:57:07 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=reKO4/LWnM69DtFjUQ9kJSU66EpjIb6bF5nIR666wb2Sk+BgwC9mUtQrci7mZQNHgUQOhBsC85epMMwI9xH9PA9dSqiJRgoeBQHsX++OH8GaLRcrIx6CGG/8DxMMZ6fOhtiNX/zhQJOGnFVNB50Ox6Yz+RViLkABfuxpve6l+v8= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:57:07 PST Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:57:07 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:57:13 - what is the MSRP - base price? Chris Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build your own Smart Car: Cost is nothing .See a lot of them in Canada MB dealer has them on display. http://smartcarusa.digitaldistrict.de/index.php?id=126 Bill 1981 300 TD OK Don wrote: Found in PC Mag of all places - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1938884,00.asp?kc=PCRSS04029TX1K633 I think they are only bringing in the vergassers though - what a pity. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo - ALDA Adjusting Info.
Thanks Jim,
Your comments about the slowness when the engine is cold - that's my
symptom to a tee!
I now understand what I need to do - and why (very important to me) with
me now needing to familiarize myself with the ALDA IP in the workshop
manuals. I know my 240D IP very well - but it will take a few minutes to
locate all the parts I need to be concerned with on the 300D. Then, the
actual work should go quickly once I get some appropriately sized shims.
Also, things look like they'll be much harder to physically reach on the
300D. But that's the price of the more modern technology I guess!
If anyone has found suitable shims available off the shelf somewhere
please share that info.
Thanks again!!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo - Need ALDA Info.
In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:50:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm seeing a feeling of being pushed back in the seat - smoothly and
progressively as rpm's build between 2000 and 3000 rpm. Then it's a
steady
acceleration. But at times I don't notice the push (for lack of a better
term) as the turbo spools up and the scenery starts to go by more
quickly.
That's my question - it seems to be more noticable at some times while
other
times, it just gradually adds speed - still quickly, but not with the
feeling of being pressed into the seat.
When I learned I didn't have an ALDA in my W123 240D, I ignored the posts
when it was being discussed. I plan to read the manual to see how it
works
and what adjustments are suggested but if the list would provide their
experiences with ALDA and what they did / how they did it -- I'd really
appreciate it as the workshop manual is not always clear.
Larry,
The ALDA changes the injected fuel quantity as atmospheric pressure and/or
boost pressure varies. Below is what I wrote in reply to previous
inquiries.
I think it is important enough to repeat the main theme here. I, and
others
on this list, believe that the injection pump calibration shifts towards
leaner as the pump ages. To correct this you can spend big bucks, pull
the
inector pump and send it to a Bosch shop for recalibrating. OR... you
can change
the setting on the ALDA to compensate. This is wy cheaper:
I firmly believe that as the fuel injection pump ages, the calibration
goes towards the lean side, due to softening of springs and wear of
various levers and fulcrums. This results in weak off-the-line
performance, especially when starting out with a cold engine.
Jerking the FI pump and having it recalibrated could fix this problem
but it's expensive. What I believe WILL give you a kick in the pants
is adding to that shim between the ALDA/compensater, and the FI pump.
That will give you more fuel off-idle, before the boost comes in, and
the car will really step out. Especially watch the improvement when
starting out cold.
The shim measurements are 0.705 OD, and 0.560 ID. You should be able
to duplicate the shim, in various thickness, with a Dremel and some
flat washers.
You need a 25mm wrench (1 inch works) to turn the nut on the FI pump
clockwise while holding the ALDA with a strap wrench, big pliers, or ?
Once the nut breaks loose it is easy to turn and release the ALDA.
Watch for shims in the base of the ALDA and/or the top of the FI pump.
Use a
thin screwdriver to probe for the shims as they are virtually
invisible. I
would return all existing shims or their equal, plust .040 to .060
additional shims, to compensate for calibration shift in the FI pumps
due to age.
There is no way of knowing how much each individual car will need-what
we are looking for is a much improved jump off idle, before the boost
comes in, and especially when the engine is cold. All this without
excess smoke at WOT on a sunny day, and no big increase in fuel
consumption
Typically, those that break the seal on the turbo ALDAs to get to the
adjusting screw get about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 turns CCW before they hit the
thread limit--at .025 per revolution, that would be about like a
.040 shim. I have not heard of anyone coming back CW off the max,
but I have heard of
people twisting off the screw, trying to get more!Hence the
reason for
shims-the screws can be used for fine tuning, if needed.
Regards,
Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles
98 ML 320, 141 K miles
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD oil cooler line
Speaking from experience on removing motor mount bolts. Clean the bolt so that it is free of any dirt or other residue. Get the proper size hex wrench in a socket drive. Use some taps on the wrench to break the bolt loose. You don't want to strip the head of the bolt out. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:39:19 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : You will have to remove the motor mount bolt from under the car, lift the engine a little, then remove the motor mount arm on that side. carbucks wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
So what do you all think? Is that our future? Next Q - where is the competition? I can't recall seeeing anything that suggests anyone else is working on a similar vehicle to offer us. One might think that with current fuel price trends, there will be more interest in very efficient vehicles. These little 800cc diesels do pretty well on fuel in town and out. The little thing will go too. I followed one on the highway going to the lake last summer that was running along at about 115 kph which would translate to about 70 plus MPH. There was an article in the local paper here a while back about a fellow who uses a Smart to deliver newspapers over a route that extends from Winnipeg east to at least the Ontario border which is about 90 miles out from Winnipeg. He apparently packs the vehicle full of papers and drives that every day. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Gallagher Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US Build your own Smart Car: Cost is nothing .See a lot of them in Canada MB dealer has them on display. http://smartcarusa.digitaldistrict.de/index.php?id=126 Bill 1981 300 TD
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
I think I have seen them advertised here starting around $17K Canadian. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US what is the MSRP - base price? Chris Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build your own Smart Car: Cost is nothing .See a lot of them in Canada MB dealer has them on display. http://smartcarusa.digitaldistrict.de/index.php?id=126 Bill 1981 300 TD OK Don wrote: Found in PC Mag of all places - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1938884,00.asp?kc=PCRSS04029TX1K633 I think they are only bringing in the vergassers though - what a pity. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector
My cousin did his own comparison - had a new Valentine and a new Escort side-by-side on his dash in Houston. Valentine would consistently pick up radar/laser up to 1/4 mile before the Escort unit. Also was better about filtering out garbage. He returned the Escort and actually said why. On 3/21/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is a radar detector with remote pickups for front and rear, and a head unit that is easily hidden or stowed. Preferably with either heads up display or audible only. Maybe one disguised in a GPS unit would be the best. I'd rather Smoky has no clue there is a radar detector present. Stealth mode is the best. I got nailed in MT by a State trooper chick with instant on radar, coming over a hill, in spite of the Escort in my Escort. I was going 75 on the interstate (55 mph years = Upyers jimmy caatah, the worst president in history) Fortunately, MT was up to playing the game with the Feds. They gave out speeding tickets. for $5 and no stain on your record. When she told me that I almost wanted to hug a state trooper! I sent back the Escort for a refund. I was moving the car to Hawaii and figured i'd have little use for the radar detector there. They only used handhelds at the time, and most of the time there was too much traffic to speed if you wanted to. At 09:08 AM 3/21/2006, you wrote: hmm. How do you know it's better than an Escort? Have you compared them some how? Seriously considering it, although it looks like something out of a 40 year old space capsule (transistors and vacuum tubes?). Appearance in this case is not important, however. Thanks, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that, mines 4 years old and still stomps on the Escort 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Dave M. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:56:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector Bah. Get a Valentine-1. http://www.valentine1.com/ :) -dm -- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann Subject: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector This is always advertised in the Star. Looks good. Anybody here have feedback on it? http://www.escortradar.com/x50.htm Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] bicycle wheels
Jim writes: I don't remember if that bike had the little safety hooks that retain the front axle, (this was the early 50s) but if they did, I surely took them off . Lawyer tabs were mandated by the CPSC in the early to mid-80s, and every self respecting roadie files them off before ever turning a pedal in anger. Closest I ever came to a stupidity-induced face plant was when I brought home a new-to-me track bike out of my car and decided to take a quick spin just to see how crazy riding a fixed gear is. For the first time in about 10 years I didn't put on a helmet. Took the bike out for a quick spin, about a half mile out. Stopped at a stop light and decided to move the bike out of the lane. I lifted up on the handlebars and...you guessed it...the front wheel dropped right out of the fork. Doh. If I had taken any sort of jump or pulled up on the handlebars at all while I was riding, I would have been toast. I don't remember how I got home. Track bikes don't have quick releases, they have solid axles and nuts. And I had no tools (to go along with my no helmet) Doh. God does watch out for little kids and drunks. Wonder which he mistook me for that day. Lee
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh -- Little Bearings?
Marshall pointed out The latest ones have four screws on the outside and are supposed to be somewhat longer lived than the earlier ones with the front cover that's crimped on, but from what I've heard, they are starting to fail at about 200kmi. I expect the life of the pump is very closely related to how clean the oil remains! The disheartening news - my recently failed vacuum pump is a Peirburg with the four screws that hold on the cover. It failed at only 143k miles. Of course, I didn't get the PO's oil change records for the first 102k miles. I can only tell you that for the last 42k miles (mostly highway) it has used Mobil 1 changed at 5k mile intervals. I replaced the crimped on cover vacuum pump of my other 124 at ~ 320k miles and it was still functioning fine. I replaced that one because I learned from this list about the problems caused when these pumps fail. My current recommendation is for anybody that buys a 124 with ANY number of miles on it, replace the vacuum pump immediately. Then perhaps consider future replacements at 200k mile intervals. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
I don't know much about them, but I would be interested in any affordable (relative - MB's will always be more $) MB that is built on the basis of HIGH QUALITY (what I'm willing to pay extra for) and not on conspicuous consumption, 87 zone climate controls, heated AND chilled seats, and 24 position head rests. A diesel Smart, with roll down windows, manual seat adjustment and made TO LAST - in THAT, I would be interested. Chris (not holding breath) R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what do you all think? Is that our future? Next Q - where is the competition? I can't recall seeeing anything that suggests anyone else is working on a similar vehicle to offer us. One might think that with current fuel price trends, there will be more interest in very efficient vehicles. These little 800cc diesels do pretty well on fuel in town and out. The little thing will go too. I followed one on the highway going to the lake last summer that was running along at about 115 kph which would translate to about 70 plus MPH. There was an article in the local paper here a while back about a fellow who uses a Smart to deliver newspapers over a route that extends from Winnipeg east to at least the Ontario border which is about 90 miles out from Winnipeg. He apparently packs the vehicle full of papers and drives that every day. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Gallagher Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US Build your own Smart Car: Cost is nothing .See a lot of them in Canada MB dealer has them on display. http://smartcarusa.digitaldistrict.de/index.php?id=126 Bill 1981 300 TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 21 18:12:03 2006 Received: from web30004.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.67]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FLlKs-0003sO-Dw for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:12:03 + Received: (qmail 7548 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2006 18:11:58 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1FwZN3T6GZ2wgQRw74yF6lTiB20VStOq6H5/q4VnPS7gHThGj6YPTTET9sKoIE8lm8kFLK7Hwo1wu3CCpTjG12jOKDJJFMBWl6t8HdNPTyXqDZ9yXsHugpV9VZxCzCjAd1xz5gjPRDoVPR/T7pljlU23gvZ1LquDfoqOofo/ZxA= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30004.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:11:58 PST Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:11:58 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escort 8500 X50 Radar Detector X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:12:03 - Cool. That clinches it for me. THANK YOU! Chris Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My cousin did his own comparison - had a new Valentine and a new Escort side-by-side on his dash in Houston. Valentine would consistently pick up radar/laser up to 1/4 mile before the Escort unit. Also was better about filtering out garbage. He returned the Escort and actually said why. On 3/21/06, Loren Faeth wrote: What I want is a radar detector with remote pickups for front and rear, and a head unit that is easily hidden or stowed. Preferably with either heads up display or audible only. Maybe one disguised in a GPS unit would be the best. I'd rather Smoky has no clue there is a radar
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
Failure to properly apply anti-seize? On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
I was thinking either that or he forgot to change the fuses Dave - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine Failure to properly apply anti-seize? On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh -- Little Bearings?
ned kleinhenz wrote: Marshall pointed out The latest ones have four screws on the outside and are supposed to be somewhat longer lived than the earlier ones with the front cover that's crimped on, but from what I've heard, they are starting to fail at about 200kmi. I expect the life of the pump is very closely related to how clean the oil remains! The disheartening news - my recently failed vacuum pump is a Peirburg with the four screws that hold on the cover. It failed at only 143k miles. Of course, I didn't get the PO's oil change records for the first 102k miles. I can only tell you that for the last 42k miles (mostly highway) it has used Mobil 1 changed at 5k mile intervals. I replaced the crimped on cover vacuum pump of my other 124 at ~ 320k miles and it was still functioning fine. I replaced that one because I learned from this list about the problems caused when these pumps fail. My current recommendation is for anybody that buys a 124 with ANY number of miles on it, replace the vacuum pump immediately. Then perhaps consider future replacements at 200k mile intervals. Ned has come to the conclusion that many people that work on OM60x powered cars regularly and have encountered failed pumps reach. That while the majority of pumps may well last the life of the engine, enough (maybe 25% by my estimates) have failed by 200kmi to warrant caution. There is NO easy/reliable test and when the pump actually fails there is the potential for the engine to be destroyed both when the pump fails and pieces fall into the timing chain as well as later if all of the pump debris is not removed from the engine (requires removal of the oil pan and on most models this is not trivial) and it's picked up by the oil pump. Replacing the pump every 150-200kmi seems prudent to me. I have had ONE pump self destruct (at about 204kmi) without destroying the engine and I've put new pumps in all but my '85 190D 2.0 when the pumps started to leak at the front cover or get noisy. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
OK Don wrote: Now here's a car that's just drying for a 603 engine and intercooler -- http://tinyurl.com/nsxtk Ain't NO way a 603 will fit. Even the 602 was tight. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] BIG pile of parts for sale
FYI... no affiliation, etc... just passing it along: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8049348099 This has Kaleb written all over it, lol! =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. Causes of seizure: 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and they kept going; 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it often enough (one of my nephews did that with a late model Chevy pickup); or 3. something broke and has jammed the works Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy a used engine and install it Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't like to sit around too long not being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them they last longer than if they sit and wait for you to fix the car) And who knows what else it needs? Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Dave W ___
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo - ALDA Adjusting Info.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jim, Your comments about the slowness when the engine is cold - that's my symptom to a tee! I now understand what I need to do - and why (very important to me) with me now needing to familiarize myself with the ALDA IP in the workshop manuals. I know my 240D IP very well - but it will take a few minutes to locate all the parts I need to be concerned with on the 300D. Then, the actual work should go quickly once I get some appropriately sized shims. Also, things look like they'll be much harder to physically reach on the 300D. But that's the price of the more modern technology I guess! If anyone has found suitable shims available off the shelf somewhere please share that info. Measure your 0-62 mph acceleration time BEFORE you make any adjustment. Measure it again AFTER you modify things. That will show whether you've accomplished anything. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
Dave Wakin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Snapped rod, snapped chain, overheated from no water or no oil, will all do it and then there are a few much, much less likely possibilities. Dave Quay (Atlanta-Stuttgart recycler) bought a low mileage '87 300D with a seized engine to dismantle. Once they removed the serp belt, the engine turned just fine. He replaced the alternator and his wife Beth used the car for years. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] Oil pressure guage slow
The oil presure guage on my 82 240D has been taking a little longer to show full pressure the first time I start it in the morning. On subsequent restarts it seems pretty much normal. Is it likely the pump is starting to wear or the screen is becoming clogged? Richard Murdoch 82 240D 82 300TDt
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
Ain't NO way a 603 will fit. Even the 602 was tight. I looked at a 1988 190D 2.5 with the 602 engine, and there isn't any room for much under there! It's hard to find the engine compared to the old 61X engine cars. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
Never say never... or in this case, no WAY... because some lunatic out there will prove you wrong! In this case, it's the Crazy Finns. Look closely at the brief under-hood shots of these W201's. Major surgery was required, this is not even close to a drop-in swap: http://www.w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/dieselboost_demo.mov (14MB download) I still get chills up my spine whenever I watch that. Drol! I have a hard time comprehending what it must be like to drive a W201 with a manual tranny and 450bhp under the bonnet. I'm sure it's quite different than my heavy, pokey W124 with a mere 340hp and a slushbox. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:00:25 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603 OK Don wrote: Now here's a car that's just drying for a 603 engine and intercooler -- http://tinyurl.com/nsxtk Ain't NO way a 603 will fit. Even the 602 was tight. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
BULL..My $500 82 240D was one of the best cars I ever owned. There are people who sell great things for little money because they are ignorant or just plain tired of it all over the place. Just have to look and see if it's a good deal. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. Causes of seizure: 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and they kept going; 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it often enough (one of my nephews did that with a late model Chevy pickup); or 3. something broke and has jammed the works Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy a used engine and install it Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't like to sit around too long not being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them they last longer than if they sit and wait for you to fix the car) And who knows what else it needs? Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Dave W ___ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
Uh well...it can and has been done. OM606's have been made to squeeze in there as well. I seen em with my own two eyes. Santa's intrepid little elves in the magical land of Finn have found a way. On 3/21/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ain't NO way a 603 will fit. Even the 602 was tight. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
Dave M. wrote: Never say never... or in this case, no WAY... because some lunatic out there will prove you wrong! In this case, it's the Crazy Finns. Look closely at the brief under-hood shots of these W201's. Major surgery was required, this is not even close to a drop-in swap: http://www.w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/dieselboost_demo.mov (14MB download) I still get chills up my spine whenever I watch that. Drol! I have a hard time comprehending what it must be like to drive a W201 with a manual tranny and 450bhp under the bonnet. I'm sure it's quite different than my heavy, pokey W124 with a mere 340hp and a slushbox. Slipping a 6 cylinder engine into a 201 chassis requires redesigning the chassis and then fabricating it. Sure it can be done, but it won't be cheap or easy. It would make a LOT more sense to slip a 603/606 engine into a chassis that it will fit into - a 124. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] BIG pile of parts for sale
A Build Your Own SL Kit -- some assembly required. On 3/21/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI... no affiliation, etc... just passing it along: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8049348099 This has Kaleb written all over it, lol! =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603
Dave M. wrote: Never say never... or in this case, no WAY... because some lunatic out there will prove you wrong! In this case, it's the Crazy Finns. Look closely at the brief under-hood shots of these W201's. Major surgery was required, this is not even close to a drop-in swap: http://www.w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/dieselboost_demo.mov (14MB download) I still get chills up my spine whenever I watch that. Drol! I have a hard time comprehending what it must be like to drive a W201 with a manual tranny and 450bhp under the bonnet. I'm sure it's quite different than my heavy, pokey W124 with a mere 340hp and a slushbox. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:00:25 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D needs 603 Ain't NO way a 603 will fit. Even the 602 was tight. Marshall The 124 chassis only weighs a few hundred pounds more than the 201 and if you go with a 5 speed manual transmission, even less! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure guage slow
Richard Murdoch wrote: The oil presure guage on my 82 240D has been taking a little longer to show full pressure the first time I start it in the morning. On subsequent restarts it seems pretty much normal. Is it likely the pump is starting to wear or the screen is becoming clogged? Richard Murdoch 82 240D 82 300TDt Change the little O rings on the stem of the oil filter cap. YES those hard black things on the stem are O rings and were pliable ONCE. The O rings are part #015 997 94 48 Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 85 380SL Oil Pan
I always thought the W107 cars were way overrated in terms of looks and performance, and here's another great reason not to own one. On 3/21/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Duff wrote: A friend at work recently bought a '85 380SL. It's leaving some oil on the garage floor and he thinks it is the oil pan. I cautioned him to be sure by getting the bottom of the engine clean to locate the source. I took a glance underneath and it looks like a full oil pan with no lower pan cover. Also looks pretty tight with the crossmember and tie rods. Anyone changed the pan gasket before and know the procedure? The R107 manual describes removing the front axle (job 33-100) while supporting the engine to remove the oil pan. Many people find it easier to remove the engine or engine AND transmission. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] BIG pile of parts for sale
DROOL!!! Somebody lock me in the cellar until the auction ends. On 3/21/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Build Your Own SL Kit -- some assembly required. On 3/21/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI... no affiliation, etc... just passing it along: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8049348099 This has Kaleb written all over it, lol! =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
OK, I'll bite. What do you think your odds are if you buy off ebay without actually being able to inspect the car? I'm not that much of a gambler. If the price is cheap enough to justify the worst case scenario then maybe but I'd hate to pay anything significant on a hunch that a cheap fix will make it good. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine BULL..My $500 82 240D was one of the best cars I ever owned. There are people who sell great things for little money because they are ignorant or just plain tired of it all over the place. Just have to look and see if it's a good deal. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. Causes of seizure: 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and they kept going; 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it often enough (one of my nephews did that with a late model Chevy pickup); or 3. something broke and has jammed the works Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy a used engine and install it Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't like to sit around too long not being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them they last longer than if they sit and wait for you to fix the car) And who knows what else it needs? Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Dave W ___ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
Well being from Canada I can say a Smart at a cost of 20-25K cdn, say 15-20K USA is, well a 15-20K car. If you pay 75K for a E or S class benz it's quite a different vehicle and with a different comfort level. Still it gets a zillion miles to the gallon, and the owners I know say it hasn't incurred costs, however some are unhappy with the cost of B service, still people using it, either folks having to commute dozens of miles per day or kids under the age of 20 are quite happy with it. I'll lastly note the smart that likely will come to the USA won't be the Smart sold in Canada since it's being reengineered. I though I read somewhere the diesel would be replaced by a product from Suzuki, but I can't find the link. On 21-Mar-06, at 10:08 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: I don't know much about them, but I would be interested in any affordable (relative - MB's will always be more $) MB that is built on the basis of HIGH QUALITY (what I'm willing to pay extra for) and not on conspicuous consumption, 87 zone climate controls, heated AND chilled seats, and 24 position head rests. A diesel Smart, with roll down windows, manual seat adjustment and made TO LAST - in THAT, I would be interested. Chris (not holding breath)
[MBZ] 82 240D Auto No Reverse
Ok, I admit to not paying attention to posts unless it applies to something I have right then. Just bought a nice 82 240D auto transmission car with 151k miles. Its problem is it doesn't engage in reverse. Forward gears engage but the shift points are pretty high. What is the fix for no reverse? TIA Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
There was an interesting thing on NPR the other night about chilled seats actually saving fuel by making people feel cooler without actually running the AC. The chillers just fan your butt but apparently that airflow makes a difference. They were talking about the chiller's ability to improve fleet fuel economy but just a little bit and thus save a bunch of gas per year. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I don't know much about them, but I would be interested in any affordable (relative - MB's will always be more $) MB that is built on the basis of HIGH QUALITY (what I'm willing to pay extra for) and not on conspicuous consumption, 87 zone climate controls, heated AND chilled seats, and 24 position head rests. A diesel Smart, with roll down windows, manual seat adjustment and made TO LAST - in THAT, I would be interested. Chris (not holding breath) - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 21 22:58:48 2006 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([63.240.77.83]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FLpoO-0007np-PI for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:58:48 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id 2006032122583701300ef0e2e; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:58:37 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:58:37 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 240D Auto No Reverse X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:58:49 - Alan Duff wrote: Ok, I admit to not paying attention to posts unless it applies to something I have right then. Just bought a nice 82 240D auto transmission car with 151k miles. Its problem is it doesn't engage in reverse. Forward gears engage but the shift points are pretty high. What is the fix for no reverse? TIA A 123 with a 722.1 series transmission will have an adjustment outside the case that controls the tension of the reverse band or clutch (don't recall which). When it works loose (not uncommon at all) reverse won't engage. Usually a very simple, inexpensive fix. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US
I must admit, that IS interesting...might have to change my mind on that one. How do the chilled seats work? Chris Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:There was an interesting thing on NPR the other night about chilled seats actually saving fuel by making people feel cooler without actually running the AC. The chillers just fan your butt but apparently that airflow makes a difference. They were talking about the chiller's ability to improve fleet fuel economy but just a little bit and thus save a bunch of gas per year. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart cars coming to US To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I don't know much about them, but I would be interested in any affordable (relative - MB's will always be more $) MB that is built on the basis of HIGH QUALITY (what I'm willing to pay extra for) and not on conspicuous consumption, 87 zone climate controls, heated AND chilled seats, and 24 position head rests. A diesel Smart, with roll down windows, manual seat adjustment and made TO LAST - in THAT, I would be interested. Chris (not holding breath) - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 21 23:22:01 2006 Received: from solanne.parasun.net ([204.174.16.15]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FLqAr-0001nV-Jc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:22:01 + Received: from [24.39.222.124] (helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by solanne.parasun.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FLqAo-0006UN-Qx for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:21:59 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:21:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 240D Auto No Reverse X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:22:01 - Look on the passenger side of the tranny from under the hood. If you are lucky you will see that the band adjustment bolt and locknut have loosened themselves and needs screwing back in. That fixed it on my 82. Good luck, Mike - Original Message - From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] 82 240D Auto No Reverse Ok, I admit to not paying attention to posts unless it applies to something I have right then. Just bought a nice 82 240D auto transmission car with 151k miles. Its problem is it doesn't engage in reverse. Forward gears engage but the shift points are pretty high. What is the fix for no reverse? TIA Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars
Any source to find this out, in general? I heard $42,000 for the 87 300TD - plug that into the inflation calculator and it's $70,604 (2005 $) - that seems INSANE. Even without the inflation calculator - $42,000 in '87 was ALOT of money for a station wagon...even an MB. Thanks, Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 21 23:54:50 2006 Received: from web31908.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.88]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FLqgc-0004vR-RY for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:54:50 + Received: (qmail 83426 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2006 23:54:46 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V+JhSzpRBelWEdPDwc3UTnnYbtVX9nUa2Oyiszr0RF1d5kAdybkkJXeoZFQxJfroSo0PaCGUFeTPrSz3tph5Ic/5GovRoJi0apoxc5928uzU2emR+WLSV1wVi81/mOgb1zM7YpEMhM/LfvRnmiKVCqq/XyoTD7vaKxXFiaTkju4= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [163.192.21.42] by web31908.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:54:46 PST Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:54:51 - A few years ago I remember going through the MBUSA site and requested a Mulrooney (sp?) sticker for my 240D. Took 1-2 weeks. I don't recall the exact page on the site. You may want to try the following link http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/contact-classic-center.do Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD Chicago --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any source to find this out, in general? I heard $42,000 for the 87 300TD - plug that into the inflation calculator and it's $70,604 (2005 $) - that seems INSANE. Even without the inflation calculator - $42,000 in '87 was ALOT of money for a station wagon...even an MB. Thanks, Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars
Chris, Bob Nitske's book puts the MSRP for the 87 300TD at $42,500 I guess that means the ML at $60 something is cheaper in today's dollars... I'm just guessing on the ML price. Yes, it is INSANE. On Mar 21, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: Any source to find this out, in general? I heard $42,000 for the 87 300TD - plug that into the inflation calculator and it's $70,604 (2005 $) - that seems INSANE. Even without the inflation calculator - $42,000 in '87 was ALOT of money for a station wagon...even an MB. Thanks, Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
