Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Peter, do you mean here the bushings on the camber arms? Are they available as a separate part? The FSM says to replace the entire camber arm if the mounts are worn, just like all the other links in the rear. On 1/1/70, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Camber arms don't wear much, but the bushings at the wheel carrier and spring link inner end do Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars
I got a copy of Enduring Passion by Butterfield. It's in the business section as it is on branding. He uses MB as the example throughout the book (very nice cover, BTW) and he interviews lots of MB insiders and there is a substantial amount of documentation on the take over by marketing...right about 1994. You are spot on. Chris Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not surprised at any of these prices' modern equivalents. Before 1994 and the Great Mercedes Badge Shift (when the letters moved in front of the numbers), the cars were built to a standard then priced at cost plus a big markup. Now the prices are set by the marketing department, cost is based on price less markup, and quality has suffered accordingly. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Christopher McCann wrote: $80316.27 adjusted: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ Chris Donald Snook wrote: Chris M. wrote: I heard $42,000 for the 87 300TD - plug that into the inflation calculator and it's $70,604 (2005 $) - that seems INSANE. Even without the inflation calculator - $42,000 in '87 was ALOT of money for a station wagon...even an MB. If you think that is crazy, I have the original window sticker for my car (1990 300SEL) and it was over 54K (IIRC) in 1990. Now, that is crazy Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 125K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 00:45:27 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMDwy-00084W-TU for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:45:24 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id 20060323004509m1400suckse; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:45:09 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:45:08 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:45:27 - Loren Faeth wrote: Marshall, Was this TSB a recall? Is there any chance a dealer would check or update my 124 wagons? No, there was no recall. The original links lasted well past the warranty and weren't a flawed design. It's just that the revised links were FAR superior and robust. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Peter, do you mean here the bushings on the camber arms? Are they available as a separate part? The FSM says to replace the entire camber arm if the mounts are worn, just like all the other links in the rear. I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Four? Camber strut, torque strut, tie rod, thrust arm, spring link... which one is not included? (Not trying to be a smartypants here... just making sure I know the score... I'm now planning to budget to have my indy do the whole back end at once, links, subframe mounts, 500E sway bar, and anything else that's easy to get at with the subframe out.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
[MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I need a few opinions about a newer car for my wife. She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. She likes her 87 300D, but it needs more work than it makes sense to do with AC, paint, and suspension. She says she would like a roadster and since I don't know of a diesel one I was considering an early 90's SL, maybe a 300 or a 500. She was also considering an audi TT. Does anyone care to offer some advice? Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
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Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Four? Camber strut, torque strut, tie rod, thrust arm, spring link... which one is not included? (Not trying to be a smartypants here... just making sure I know the score... I'm now planning to budget to have my indy do the whole back end at once, links, subframe mounts, 500E sway bar, and anything else that's easy to get at with the subframe out.) ALL original links (but I've never completely replaced the spring link - that I've always called the control arm and never knew it was a link - but I have replaced the trunnion - part number 6b in the diagram on the CD). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Does the 87 190D 2.5Turbo have similar issues with the rear end links. I have noticed lateral motion of the rear of the car when there is a rapid change engine output torque, ie letting of the throttle on hills or during some shifts. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 205K? 85 300CD 327K 82 300D 327K 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel) - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II Alex Chamberlain wrote: Peter, do you mean here the bushings on the camber arms? Are they available as a separate part? The FSM says to replace the entire camber arm if the mounts are worn, just like all the other links in the rear. I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Marshall
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Four? Camber strut, torque strut, tie rod, thrust arm, spring link... which one is not included? (Not trying to be a smartypants here... just making sure I know the score... I'm now planning to budget to have my indy do the whole back end at once, links, subframe mounts, 500E sway bar, and anything else that's easy to get at with the subframe out.) ALL original links (but I've never completely replaced the spring link - that I've always called the control arm and never knew it was a link - but I have replaced the trunnion - part number 6b in the diagram on the CD). OK, I got it. (I got the names right out of the CD... each of the rear suspension parts seem to go by several different names. The WorldPac catalog, for instance, calls it a control arm, too. And what you call a trunnion the CD just refers to unhelpfully as rubber mount...) Alex Chamberlain
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
The rubber is part of the springing system, cannot be replaced separately. That's why the axle must be positioned at normal ride height BEFORE tightening the bolts on both ends of the links. All the links are made the same way -- a steel sleeve that is clamped in place by the bolt vulcanized with a large rubber bushing to the link itself. I've seen all steel replacements, but I suspect you would have both changes in handling from a lower spring rate and rear end sag if you used them. Peter
[MBZ] oh my
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[MBZ] glow plug issue 87 190D 2.5 Turbo
Lately my my glow plug light has not come on when I turn the key to the run position. It doen't happen all the time and it will come on and cycle normally after have turn the key to engine start position then turn it back to the off position and then back to the run postion. I sounds like an ignition switch issue to me, but was woundering if there was anything else to would cause it the act up. I do have a new ignition switch coming from Rusty. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 249K? 85 300CD 327K 82 300D 327K 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel)
Re: [MBZ] glow plug issue 87 190D 2.5 Turbo
Built in diagnostics -- you have a bad glow plug or two. Replace them all and the lamp will work normally. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in here, but surely the answer's yes? The five-link rear suspension design was introduced on the 201 and then used with very little change on the 124. Many of the parts for the 124 suspension have 201 part numbers! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Robert Massmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the 87 190D 2.5Turbo have similar issues with the rear end links. I have noticed lateral motion of the rear of the car when there is a rapid change engine output torque, ie letting of the throttle on hills or during some shifts. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 205K? 85 300CD 327K 82 300D 327K 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel) - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II Alex Chamberlain wrote: Peter, do you mean here the bushings on the camber arms? Are they available as a separate part? The FSM says to replace the entire camber arm if the mounts are worn, just like all the other links in the rear. I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Marshall ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] oh my
Kaleb! You REALLY need this one! That factory special order interior is worth a fortune, if your wife doesn't demand it for her car! I wonder what the interior code number is! At 07:35 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany
Replacing front door seals on my 300D. Ripped out the old one, in pieces. Struggling with the new one, getting it into the groove is not easy (which is good, 'cause it'd be too easy to get out). Epiphany: Silicone Spray Lubricant. That is all. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115
Re: [MBZ] oh my
Worth fixing up. It's a Euro! Note the manual climate control, headlights, dark cloth seats under the silly covers, and lack of sunroof. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 3/22/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in here, but surely the answer's yes? The five-link rear suspension design was introduced on the 201 and then used with very little change on the 124. Many of the parts for the 124 suspension have 201 part numbers! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Robert Massmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the 87 190D 2.5Turbo have similar issues with the rear end links. I have noticed lateral motion of the rear of the car when there is a rapid change engine output torque, ie letting of the throttle on hills or during some shifts. The design of the rear axle suspension of 124 and 201s are exactly the same (even share many parts). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] oh my
Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 02:27:44 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMFY8-94-G5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:27:44 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 20060323022737m1200jc361e; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:27:37 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:27:36 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] glow plug issue 87 190D 2.5 Turbo X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:27:44 - Robert Massmann wrote: Lately my my glow plug light has not come on when I turn the key to the run position. It doen't happen all the time and it will come on and cycle normally after have turn the key to engine start position then turn it back to the off position and then back to the run postion. I sounds like an ignition switch issue to me, but was woundering if there was anything else to would cause it the act up. I do have a new ignition switch coming from Rusty. What you describe is exactly what SHOULD happen when there is a problem with the preglow system, NOT the ignition switch. Usually, the problem is one or two bad glow plugs (they should measure 0.6 ohms when the engine is cold and at most twice that when hot). The system is designed to prevent the dash light from illumining the FIRST time the key is turned on when there is a problem. If you turn the key on, off, on, off, on the light can usually be coaxed to illuminate even when there is a failure. You have been NOTIFIED that there is a preglow problem. The next prudent move is to diagnose it! It is almost surely NOT a fuse - as all the 190D 2.5ts I've seen had an electronic overload protection circuit rather than a fuse in the preglow relay. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Stuart Saxonberg wrote: Epiphany: Silicone Spray Lubricant. That is all. Works great on sunroof seals too! And subframe bushings to boot! -j.
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Ditto for the 210, I believe, as some of the parts have 210 numbers. Volvo used a very similar if not identical system on the 760s. Peter
Re: [MBZ] oh my
how can you tell they're cloth seats? They have the seatcovers on all of them. But it's definitely a Euro car. On 3/22/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] oh my
It's Hawaii 50 I like the question about wether it has a sunroof now or in the past. Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Hendrik with boring old standard interior and no sunny sun roof now or in the past (that I know of) - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] oh my Kaleb! You REALLY need this one! That factory special order interior is worth a fortune, if your wife doesn't demand it for her car! I wonder what the interior code number is! At 07:35 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] oh my
D'oh, you're right, Sunil. I mistook the black side panels on the seatcovers for the actual seat fabric peeking through on one of the interior pictures. They still could well be cloth, though. I love this moronic comment: DID THIS CAR HAVE A SUNROOF AT ONE TIME? What do they think, somebody welded it shut and painstakingly Bondo'd and repainted over the evidence? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 3/22/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can you tell they're cloth seats? They have the seatcovers on all of them. But it's definitely a Euro car. On 3/22/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-mercedes-190D-Diesel-Super- mileage-little- work_W0QQitemZ8046512254QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem There went my next generator! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued
I would love to have the SDL. The amount of leg space out back is significant, even though I think it is only 2 more than the SD. Ended up with the POS SDL for the legroom. The extra 5.5 of wheelbase is all in the rear footwell, and is a pretty serious addition to legroom back there. About like what you get by running the front seats up all the way, but without the need for Munchkin driver and shotgun occupants. And _with_ the passenger seat all the way forward it makes quite a playpen in back, for those waiting-for-SWMBA moments in parking lots. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] oh my
IT HAS NEVER HAD A SUNROOF IT USED TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF BUT NOW MY HUSBAND THE NIGERIAN KING WELDED IT SHUT ALONG WITH $25 MILLION PLEASE HELP ME GET IT OUT OF THE COUNTRY THANK YOU GOD BLESS On 3/22/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D'oh, you're right, Sunil. I mistook the black side panels on the seatcovers for the actual seat fabric peeking through on one of the interior pictures. They still could well be cloth, though. I love this moronic comment: DID THIS CAR HAVE A SUNROOF AT ONE TIME? What do they think, somebody welded it shut and painstakingly Bondo'd and repainted over the evidence? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 3/22/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can you tell they're cloth seats? They have the seatcovers on all of them. But it's definitely a Euro car. On 3/22/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] oh my
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Loren Faeth wrote: Kaleb! You REALLY need this one! That factory special order interior is worth a fortune, if your wife doesn't demand it for her car! I wonder what the interior code number is! At 07:35 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
ALL of the rear suspension parts are the same as far as the links, hubs etc. Those parts fit quite a few cars all the way up to the SLK, CLK and such. Marshall Booth wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in here, but surely the answer's yes? The five-link rear suspension design was introduced on the 201 and then used with very little change on the 124. Many of the parts for the 124 suspension have 201 part numbers! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Robert Massmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the 87 190D 2.5Turbo have similar issues with the rear end links. I have noticed lateral motion of the rear of the car when there is a rapid change engine output torque, ie letting of the throttle on hills or during some shifts. The design of the rear axle suspension of 124 and 201s are exactly the same (even share many parts). Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] oh my
plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] oh my
i'm going to remember how well gray tape matches the interior door panel... -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List , Mercedes mailing list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ462 3542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 03:34:19 2006 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMGaZ-0006cM-2M for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:34:19 + Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id 5.33a.7a71be (3948) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:33:44 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:33:44 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] Scrap 380SE X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:34:19 - ,Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? If something as minor as that scares the crap out of you, imagine the MI you'll have when all the important defect come to light. RLE
[MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo is a helluva lot cheaper than new gaskets. RLE
Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II
Peter Frederick wrote: Ditto for the 210, I believe, as some of the parts have 210 numbers. Volvo used a very similar if not identical system on the 760s. Did they? I thought the 700-series Volvos still had a solid rear axle, not an independent suspension like a Mercedes. I don't have any direct experience with anything but 240s, though. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring
The wiring harnesses that Mercedes sells today as replacements are said to be identical (they carry the same part number I'm told) to the ones originally installed, but are expected to last at least 10 years even under harsh conditions. A whole 10 years? Be still my heart! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
If the sunroof leaks, check for a deteriorated drain pan or plugged drains (all four corners, drains out the doorposts. The sunroof gasket is a fiber faced thing, it does NOT seal out water. The water is collected by the drain pan and drained out four plastic pipes to the ground. If they are plugged, the headliner gets wet. Peter
[MBZ] MSRP
$58K for my 91 350 SDL. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
had a really pleasant chat with Jim when he came by to get the hubcaps. Nice family and that 240D is a SUPERB car for what it is. I must bow down to Jim's ability to take dead iron and make it come back to life. The car got all the way to Seattle from Spokane and most likely will get even better on the way back. Thanks for the kind words. Car did indeed go all the way back home, uneventfully. I got these words out of my wife: I was wrong. Sweet music! Car purrs like a kitten on the highway, too. The super large tank in the trunk should give it an 800 mile range easy. He got paintless dent repair to the front fender and with the The light came on at about 1000 miles. We only got 23.5 MPG on this shakedown cruise, that was a bit disappointing. Ran her hard, though. All the mountain passes and such really wrung the car out. Starts and runs smoother easier and stronger than ever before. trim strip back on, it would be hard to tell it was hurt unless you get really close. He wants to get the AC back in and working, as well as CC to function well. If he sells over here, he can expect his base price of $2500 easy. If I sell it over there I may not need to get the AC working. That would be nice. Easy enough to restore, probably, but I have to wait until a suitable donor shows up at the U-Pull. That could take an indefinite amount of time. No other approach is economically feasible for a profit-making venture. But we don't want to be sitting on this car for very long. My wife fears its continued existence here. This is not a Kansas 220D car, but a really nice example of the w123 in #3 condition. With a good rubbing out, a detailing, spit shine to the engine compartment, I think it could be a #2. No excess smoke or noise, just a great klatta klatta. Anybody interested in a car with some upgradability should consider it for a friend or relative. List members would want to take the next step in car care and cover the cosmetic items and get a timing chain in at the next valve adjustment. I think it has curb appeal, great example of a 10 footer, and better than many of the '79 cars I see available. Just my $0.02 It'll be for sale soon! But I always figured it would be sold non-list, since we here all are capable of making our _own_ rides out of non-functioning junk. Right? Gump is no POS, btw. It's cleaning up nice, and isn't that far from deserving a nice paint job. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Question about 1984 190D auto
I'm planning to go look at it, but first, I want to know if it's possible to fix rather than rebuild the tranny. It is staying in 1st gear. Is this a failure mode for that particular transmission? Here's the link to the ad. http://portland.craigslist.org/car/143342384.html It could be only a stuck kickdown switch. But I want a car like that! For my generator. If I can make my next one work I get to sell the Kohler. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:44:12 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wiring harnesses that Mercedes sells today as replacements are said to be identical (they carry the same part number I'm told) to the ones originally installed, but are expected to last at least 10 years even under harsh conditions. A whole 10 years? Be still my heart! My sarcasm detector just pegged. Craig
Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17
Zeitgeist wrote: FYI: I dropped by my local Harbor Freight yesterday to browse the aisles while waiting for wife's doc appointment. They had a diesel compression tester on sale for $17. It appeared to have quite a few adapters, one of which must fit the MB/VW injectors. Something like this? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93644 Price is shocking, simply shocking.
[MBZ] Walmart going upscale
So then this means that Mobil 1 (only MB approved, of course) will be packaged in Rosenthal crystal decanters? Closer inspection will reveal they are plastic and made in China. RLE
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents though 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
[MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
Hi all, The March edition of Motor Trend Classic has a neat article on some vintage Mercedes supersedans... namely: 1) 1971 300SEL 6.3 2) 1978 450SEL 6.9 3) 1992 500E It's 8 pages long with some pretty sweet photos and specs on all 3 models. The PDF is available here - 10MB download. Enjoy! http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/MT_Supersedans_03-2006.pdf :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 262kmi (Sportline)
Re: [MBZ] MSRP of our Cars
My 1987 300SDL sold for 53k and change with the ortho seats. James S. Jetton 1987 300SDL 139k From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 05:26:14 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMIKs-0007zX-6N for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:26:14 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k2N5QqBH029849 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:26:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:26:11 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:26:52 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 280SE alert X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:26:14 - I saw one at a lowball car sales place at the Roy Y (WA), for those who know where that is. Asking $1000, had a rod knock. I've seen worse cars, I've seen better. Had some rust, but didn't look terminal. (They also had a $2800 [?]450 SEL, but that one was a whole lot less interesting to me.) My wife likes those cars. Maybe I should capitalize on that? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Question about 1984 190D auto
I'll buy the 190D, free up the tranny, and trade Jim out of that 240D. Sound good? I'm going to look at it tomorrow since I have a free day. Well, I'm personally looking to try to make a couple of months' health insurance out of the 240D, and only have a budget in the few hundreds for a 190D motor/tranny pair. A terminally rusty one with a bit of drivetrain life left in it would be ideal. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring
Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues? On 3/22/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:44:12 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wiring harnesses that Mercedes sells today as replacements are said to be identical (they carry the same part number I'm told) to the ones originally installed, but are expected to last at least 10 years even under harsh conditions. A whole 10 years? Be still my heart! My sarcasm detector just pegged. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:46:55PM -0800, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues? IIRC, volvo had a similar problem. Can't remember the exact details. One could say british car wiring was unintentionally biodegradable too :) K
Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring
ROTFLthinking back when my TR3 dash caught fire. On 3/22/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:46:55PM -0800, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues? IIRC, volvo had a similar problem. Can't remember the exact details. One could say british car wiring was unintentionally biodegradable too :) K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
Cool story, Dave. Thanks for scanning it in! $7500 is given as the typical price of a tired runner 6.9. I wonder if I should have snapped up the one I saw for $1200 on a used-car lot a couple of years ago? (I'd probably still be paying off the credit card bills to fix it up, though...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The March edition of Motor Trend Classic has a neat article on some vintage Mercedes supersedans... namely: 1) 1971 300SEL 6.3 2) 1978 450SEL 6.9 3) 1992 500E It's 8 pages long with some pretty sweet photos and specs on all 3 models. The PDF is available here - 10MB download. Enjoy! http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/MT_Supersedans_03-2006.pdf :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 262kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
Hmm, strange how they mention door mounted seat switches on the W116. AFAIK they first came about on the W126. -Aaron
Re: [MBZ] Question about 1984 190D auto
Well, I lost out on that 190D. It was sold by the time I was able to get over there. It'll probably pop up on CL again once it's fixed up. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents though 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job.
[MBZ] W115 seats in a W123?
Will they work? Can the seat bottom from a w115 be put on W123 seat runners? I have someone who's interested in my 220D driver's seat. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out
Re: [MBZ] oh my
the wood plate off the ashtray is missing. That's all. On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm going to remember how well gray tape matches the interior door panel... -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List , Mercedes mailing list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ462 3542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. Tom Potter Who hates sunroofs (aka leaky rust initiators) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo is a helluva lot cheaper than new gaskets. RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I had a 1995 SL320 and subsequently a 1997 SL500. The eight cylinder gets slightly better gas mileage. The V8 car gets 18mpg city and 25mpg highway. In the process of looking at one time I drove a manual SL300. I felt it was a little doggy; but then I didn't have enough time with it to really get used to the car. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
The SL320 / 300SL will have the M104 engine... nice motor, it has the usual issues with head gaskets like most of the M104's, don't think there's anything else major to worry about. The SL500 / 500SL will have the M119 engine, which is a real powerhouse... no major problems there, but usually due for a timing chain rails by 150k (and it's not as easy or cheap to do as our old diesels). The M119 is a fairly expensive engine to maintain, though... not that the M104 is cheap, but the M119 is a notch above. The 500SL had mechanical (KE?) injection from 90-92 and then bumped up to the electronic LH injection starting in 1993, IIRC. If your wife doesn't care about power (and you don't either), I'd stick with the SL320. If one of you wants a *fast* car, get the SL500. Drive both and let us know how you like them! I'd love a late R129 SL500 'Silver Arrow' edition with the AMG Sport package. Mmmm. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:05:28 -0500 From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Why are you offended? Because none of these cars are earmarked for you? On 3/22/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am offended redghost wrote: Look at these, or just use the delete key http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144069636.html -- 92 SD $10k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144046336.html -- 82 SD $1600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143941492.html -- 92 SEL $7200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143898487.html -- 82 300D $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143891072.html -- 80 SD $2300 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143760367.html -- 79 TD for Jim ($800) http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143720669.html -- 85 SD $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143696571.html -- 73 220D $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143644983.html -- 83 300D $3200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143598099.html -- 69 280SE $32k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143572558.html -- 68 230 $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143525034.html -- 71 220 $3500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143447624.html -- Mercedes Pinto $5k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143360814.html -- 350 SLC $6k euro http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143265991.html -- 72 250c $4500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143263874.html -- 75 w116 $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143221518.html -- 85 300D $4200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143196947.html -- Pimps ride http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143149721.html -- 82 TD $5k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143077449.html -- 78 300D $3500 I will gladly check out any car here if you are serious about buying it. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued
SWMBA?? Or do you mean SWMBO? On 3/22/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to have the SDL. The amount of leg space out back is significant, even though I think it is only 2 more than the SD. Ended up with the POS SDL for the legroom. The extra 5.5 of wheelbase is all in the rear footwell, and is a pretty serious addition to legroom back there. About like what you get by running the front seats up all the way, but without the need for Munchkin driver and shotgun occupants. And _with_ the passenger seat all the way forward it makes quite a playpen in back, for those waiting-for-SWMBA moments in parking lots. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MSRP
For contrast, here are the purchase and selling prices of my first four B-Bs (all used): Purchased in 1982: 1973 280 PP $4700 SP $4850 1983 Purchased in 1983: 1976 300D PP $9,500 SP $8,500 1984 Purchased in 1984: 1980 300D PP $15,000 SP $11,750 1986 Purchased in 1986: 1970 280SE PP $3200 SP $9800 1990 Obviously, I put some money into each of these cars (restored the 280SE and paid for a valve job), but my net loss was never worse than 25 percent of the PP, or $1500/year for use of the car. On 3/22/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $58K for my 91 350 SDL. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
I wondered about that too. I looked endlessly for a decent 6.3 or 6.9 about 15 years ago but couldn't find one that wasn't crapped out so gave up and instead settled for a 300SE L 3.5 that had been well looked after. The 3.5 was plenty quick and expensive to maintain, and quite satisfying to own and drive despite it being painted in their most popular - and my least favorite - color, tobacco brown :(( I restored it into concours condition and later sold it to MBNA credit card company for use in their promotional parades. On 3/23/06, Aaron Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, strange how they mention door mounted seat switches on the W116. AFAIK they first came about on the W126. -Aaron ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] oh my
The wooden locking tabs are broken off the shifter cover, which is why it appears to be 'floating. On 3/23/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the wood plate off the ashtray is missing. That's all. On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm going to remember how well gray tape matches the interior door panel... -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:35:16 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] oh my To: Banned List , Mercedes mailing list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ462 3542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17
yea I have been seeing those. Might have to get one even though I already have one since this one comes with more adapters. I had to buy the MB injector hole adapter seperate and it was WAY more than this whole set. Mitch Haley wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: FYI: I dropped by my local Harbor Freight yesterday to browse the aisles while waiting for wife's doc appointment. They had a diesel compression tester on sale for $17. It appeared to have quite a few adapters, one of which must fit the MB/VW injectors. Something like this? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93644 Price is shocking, simply shocking. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] OT: SWMBA was... Re: 1983 300SD continued
Andrew, A = Admired, Adored, Appreciated, you go thru the rest of the A's that work for you.. Chuck Phoenix AZ . without an SWMBA or O. Except for a 300SD and a 16Valve. Both She's On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:33 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: SWMBA?? Or do you mean SWMBO?
Re: [MBZ] MSRP
$81845.94 - adjusted Chris wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $58K for my 91 350 SDL. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 15:23:28 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.200] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FMRep-K5-QL for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:23:28 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:23:34 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:23:28 - those prices are WAY inflated for the 6.3 and 6.9. Decent 6.9's will run around 4k or less. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Cool story, Dave. Thanks for scanning it in! $7500 is given as the typical price of a tired runner 6.9. I wonder if I should have snapped up the one I saw for $1200 on a used-car lot a couple of years ago? (I'd probably still be paying off the credit card bills to fix it up, though...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The March edition of Motor Trend Classic has a neat article on some vintage Mercedes supersedans... namely: 1) 1971 300SEL 6.3 2) 1978 450SEL 6.9 3) 1992 500E It's 8 pages long with some pretty sweet photos and specs on all 3 models. The PDF is available here - 10MB download. Enjoy! http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/MT_Supersedans_03-2006.pdf :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 262kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
exactly Aaron Lam wrote: Hmm, strange how they mention door mounted seat switches on the W116. AFAIK they first came about on the W126. -Aaron ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W115 seats in a W123?
no kevin kraly wrote: Will they work? Can the seat bottom from a w115 be put on W123 seat runners? I have someone who's interested in my 220D driver's seat. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MSRP of our Cars
$89095.84 - adjusted Chris James Jetton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 1987 300SDL sold for 53k and change with the ortho seats. James S. Jetton 1987 300SDL 139k ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 15:25:18 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.200] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FMRgc-hl-BY for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:25:18 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:25:28 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:25:18 - yea, thats it. andrew strasfogel wrote: Why are you offended? Because none of these cars are earmarked for you? On 3/22/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17
Be careful woth HF tools, many with housings have the housing made of cast aluminum or pot metal. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17 yea I have been seeing those. Might have to get one even though I already have one since this one comes with more adapters. I had to buy the MB injector hole adapter seperate and it was WAY more than this whole set. Mitch Haley wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: FYI: I dropped by my local Harbor Freight yesterday to browse the aisles while waiting for wife's doc appointment. They had a diesel compression tester on sale for $17. It appeared to have quite a few adapters, one of which must fit the MB/VW injectors. Something like this? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93644 Price is shocking, simply shocking. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Potter, Tom E wrote: Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. I've owned 22 Mercedes manufactured between 1954 and 1987. 21 had sunroofs. I've only had to service two of them and NEVER had one leak. Many Euro cars were never equipped with a sunroof, that cost extra. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT: SWMBA was... Re: 1983 300SD continued
I've been trying to guess what SWMBA stands for myself - and have gotten nowhere. Can someone spell it out for me so I can go Oh, yeah now I get it Thanks Dave W
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany
When I did the sunroof seal on my 240D I used soapy water in a dish detergent bottle, worked a treat. -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:15:06 -0800 From: Stuart Saxonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Replacing front door seals on my 300D. Ripped out the old one, in pieces. Struggling with the new one, getting it into the groove is not easy (which is good, 'cause it'd be too easy to get out). Epiphany: Silicone Spray Lubricant. That is all. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 15:45:14 2006 Received: from web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.38]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMRzp-0002p3-9J for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:45:14 + Received: (qmail 85730 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2006 15:43:28 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wzlfHPO7nP9pSPs1x4tkImPsbnMgRAeG6E1qRhueFUynoQrsFUtMXbYr6X3Pa+yzJgHnBLg9vGZeZXIzosDVac3OSbAawvYJgFxiNPnK3MYLjkDEjR0rC8VZ6Z2iR9MFutlAoc6vfJKnatmOAPOCZghJwXxXTGkRUPZ3JinUKg8= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:43:28 PST Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:43:28 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] oh my X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:45:14 - Wrong wording, the wood surround around the shifter base. -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:26:19 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] oh my To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 15:47:29 2006 Received: from smtp2.williams.com ([151.142.221.60]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMS25-0002z7-Fu for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:47:29 + Received: from unknown (HELO wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM) ([172.31.6.11]) by smtp2.williams.com with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2006 09:47:26 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i=4.03,123,1141624800; d=scan'208; a=36822891:sNHT32779640 Received: from wmshoumb01.WILLIAMS.COM ([172.31.41.244]) by wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:47:49 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:47:26 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Thread-Index: AcZOj/vauReWzwUBS6W5gbnGrQ1vNwAAC8IQ From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2006 15:47:49.0876 (UTC) FILETIME=[23756B40:01C64E91] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued
SWMBA?? Or do you mean SWMBO? No, She Who Must Be Annoyed. It seems to be a compulsion with her, at least as regards myself! I haven't noticed much of a correlation with the A factor as regards my car habits, in spite of some of the associated verbiage. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Leave them closed, service them not. Unplug the connector. Voila! DBAG would build them any way you wanted. MBNA wanted them as it was interested only in the 'luxury' facade. Witness the fool that was incensed that there was a star on one guy's ratty old truck (a Unimog) and insisted he remove it. -- Jim
[MBZ] I love the interior color
check out the hood star http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-MERCEDES-240D-IN-ROCKWALL-TX_W0QQitemZ4624951796QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at least thru the mid '80s without a sunroof as a no cost option! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color
That must be the optional supersized hoodstar. Rarely seen - must make the vehicle worth more?? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:13 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] I love the interior color check out the hood star http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-MERCEDES-240D-IN-ROCKWALL-TX_W0QQitemZ4624951796QQcategoryZ 6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___
Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color
R A Bennell wrote: That must be the optional supersized hoodstar. Rarely seen - must make the vehicle worth more?? I was wondering if it might have been a hacked up 600 star until I got a look at the front-on shot and saw how out of proportion it was. And to think: someone not only *made* that star, but thought it looked good enough to prominently attach it to their car. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
And they said $20K for a 500E? I thought those things were going for $50K now? On 3/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those prices are WAY inflated for the 6.3 and 6.9. Decent 6.9's will run around 4k or less. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Cool story, Dave. Thanks for scanning it in! $7500 is given as the typical price of a tired runner 6.9. I wonder if I should have snapped up the one I saw for $1200 on a used-car lot a couple of years ago? (I'd probably still be paying off the credit card bills to fix it up, though...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The March edition of Motor Trend Classic has a neat article on some vintage Mercedes supersedans... namely: 1) 1971 300SEL 6.3 2) 1978 450SEL 6.9 3) 1992 500E It's 8 pages long with some pretty sweet photos and specs on all 3 models. The PDF is available here - 10MB download. Enjoy! http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/MT_Supersedans_03-2006.pdf :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 262kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
No way any factory 124 goes for anywhere near $50K, except maybe a late Cabriolet in mint condition. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/23/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And they said $20K for a 500E? I thought those things were going for $50K now? On 3/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those prices are WAY inflated for the 6.3 and 6.9. Decent 6.9's will run around 4k or less. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Cool story, Dave. Thanks for scanning it in! $7500 is given as the typical price of a tired runner 6.9. I wonder if I should have snapped up the one I saw for $1200 on a used-car lot a couple of years ago? (I'd probably still be paying off the credit card bills to fix it up, though...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/22/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The March edition of Motor Trend Classic has a neat article on some vintage Mercedes supersedans... namely: 1) 1971 300SEL 6.3 2) 1978 450SEL 6.9 3) 1992 500E It's 8 pages long with some pretty sweet photos and specs on all 3 models. The PDF is available here - 10MB download. Enjoy! http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/MT_Supersedans_03-2006.pdf :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 262kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color
Isn't it likely a star from the trunk lid? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Ervine Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color R A Bennell wrote: That must be the optional supersized hoodstar. Rarely seen - must make the vehicle worth more?? I was wondering if it might have been a hacked up 600 star until I got a look at the front-on shot and saw how out of proportion it was. And to think: someone not only *made* that star, but thought it looked good enough to prominently attach it to their car. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany
Does anyone have a clue how to adjust an electric S/R on a late W111 coupe or W108 sedan? According to the manual, the front edge is supposed to be in a position slightly below the car's roofline. In actuality, mine sticks u a couple mm ABOVE the rood of the car, and the adjustment procedure (raising or lowering the rails) has zero effect on lowering the edge. Perhaps the rails or something associated with them are worn out - I don't know. Has anyone BT/DT (elec. s/r adjustment) with a 108/109 sedan or late 111 coupe? Andrew 111 280SE 3.5 On 3/23/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I did the sunroof seal on my 240D I used soapy water in a dish detergent bottle, worked a treat. -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:15:06 -0800 From: Stuart Saxonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Replacing front door seals on my 300D. Ripped out the old one, in pieces. Struggling with the new one, getting it into the groove is not easy (which is good, 'cause it'd be too easy to get out). Epiphany: Silicone Spray Lubricant. That is all. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
I strongly disagree! A sliding roof is one of the great joys of Mercedes optiondom. Nothing beats it for ventilation, esp. on a hot day when the temp. can exceed 160 inside a car parked in the sun. In fact, it's almost a necessity. [flames sure to follow]. On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at least thru the mid '80s without a sunroof as a no cost option! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: SWMBA was... Re: 1983 300SD continued
Dave, She Who Must Be Appreciated/Admired/Adored.Or in the case of the O Obeyed! Glad to help out Chuck Phoenix AZ On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Dave Wakin wrote: I've been trying to guess what SWMBA stands for myself - and have gotten nowhere. Can someone spell it out for me so I can go Oh, yeah now I get it Thanks Dave W ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 300SD 1985 Vacuum problems
Hi Is there a good guide on checking out the vacuum system on my 126 oiler? It has been flakey for a while but as of late I need to rev the engine a bit after I have removed the key to get it to kill. The brakes are a bit hard when I first start driving. 'But of course' the door locks work but they are helped out with a electric pump on a 126 right? I have had a leak in the heater controls for a while. I could here it hissing intermittently. I have the 126 CD, a hand held vacuum pump and a vacuum gauge (besides the one on the pump). Is there a good checklist of what to go thru? A list of the PDF-s or something. A while back a nice soul sent me a speedometer check list and it was quite helpful. It is OK to send me stuff off list ( like if it is big) George Larribeau Dallas, TX From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 20:25:21 2006 Received: from smtp2.williams.com ([151.142.221.60]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMWMw-0006B8-Qz for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:25:20 + Received: from unknown (HELO wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM) ([172.31.6.11]) by smtp2.williams.com with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2006 14:25:14 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AQAAA+kX-IronPort-AV: i=4.03,123,1141624800; d=scan'208; a=36849904:sNHT38234972 Received: from wmshoumb01.WILLIAMS.COM ([172.31.41.244]) by wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:25:37 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:25:14 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Thread-Index: AcZOr61pA+v5gnNhQ8+hknxAxBfhNwAB5yNA From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2006 20:25:37.0795 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2500530:01C64EB7] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:25:21 - I said in my original post that it was A good device to let the hot air out of the vehicle before starting the A/C. The only ventilation we get here in Texas is hotter air. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs I strongly disagree! A sliding roof is one of the great joys of Mercedes optiondom. Nothing beats it for ventilation, esp. on a hot day when the temp. can exceed 160 inside a car parked in the sun. In fact, it's almost a necessity. [flames sure to follow]. On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at least thru the mid '80s without a sunroof as a no cost option! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W115 seats in a W123?
no That's what I thought. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans
Their 500E prices were a bit low. Most 500E's are in the $12-$17k range with average miles (80-120k). Not much goes cheaper than that unless it's salvage or has really high miles. Clean low miles examples are in the $20-25k range. There's not much over $30k except garage queens and exotica like that RENNtech Fittipaldi car (asking $65k). There is one for sale in SoCal with 5kmi (not a typo) that is, literally, showroom new. He turned down offers (from serious collectors) in the $80-$90k range, think he wants approx $100k. (I know this is nearly incomrehensible to a group that lives breathes $500 W123's, but yes there are people out there willing to pay those amounts.) The A124 (cabriolet, 124.066) is priced very close to the 500E (124.036)... in the same $10-$25k range. These two 124's are, IMO, the highest valued 124's in the USA. (Outside the US there were other exotic models and I have no clue what those values are. The E60 Limited is my dream car... thought only a dozen were built worldwide though.) :-) -dm -- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:59:40 -0800 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans And they said $20K for a 500E? I thought those things were going for $50K now?
Re: [MBZ] valve adjust/outside air temp
Luther Gulseth wrote: '82 300CD currently the outside air temp is 6oC(43oF). Is this an ok temp for adjusting valves? The manual says clearance is set at 20oC-I=0.10 and E=0.35. Is 6o too cold or will it really make that much difference? The precise temp is NOT critical (within 10-20 degrees). Most any temp from freezing to comfortable or even warm room temp is fine. What IS critical is an even temp distribution during the period during which you are adjusting the valves. Once the engine has been started, the temperature may slowly change (at different rate for different parts) for 6-8 hours. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] valve adjust/outside air temp
This is good news. Engine has sat overnight. Thanks, Luther ~ ~The precise temp is NOT critical (within 10-20 degrees). Most any temp ~from freezing to comfortable or even warm room temp is fine. What IS ~critical is an even temp distribution during the period during which you ~are adjusting the valves. Once the engine has been started, the ~temperature may slowly change (at different rate for different parts) ~for 6-8 hours. ~ ~Marshall ~-- ~ Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) ~ der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 ~turbo 237kmi ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Were you the one guy? Did the idiot sell MBs for a living? No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. -- Jim
[MBZ] Leaky 126
The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also can't understand why anybody would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.) Wilt
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Now the prices are set by the marketing department, cost is based on price less markup, and quality has suffered accordingly. Speaking of markup, profit margins back in the day were something on the order of 15-20% per vehicle, I'm told. Nowadays, I think it is more like 7%. So while the cars have become more attainable (marketing-speak for cheaper), they weren't quite so fabulously expensive as the inflation calculator would suggest, ceteris paribus.
Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring
Don't know how British Leyland with Lucas electrics could ever catch fire-they never had any current running through them. Had a Series III Land Rover. Finally switched over to as many Bosch electrics as I could. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desert Rat Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring ROTFLthinking back when my TR3 dash caught fire. On 3/22/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:46:55PM -0800, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues? IIRC, volvo had a similar problem. Can't remember the exact details. One could say british car wiring was unintentionally biodegradable too :) K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126
I thought you could get a 124 or 126 without a sliding roof, BUT you had to specially order it from the factory, then wait 6-8 weeks for your car to be built and shipped over. That, or you take Euro delivery. Marshall, what's the official word? On 3/23/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also can't understand why anybody would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.) Wilt ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
That picture made me laugh so hard, I peed a little. On 3/23/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Chuck Phoenix AZ 1986 190E 2.3 16V 1980 300SD On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:57 PM, John Ervine wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Chuck Landenberger wrote: John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Glad you like it! Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Honestly, I was laughing too hard to make it across the road to check it out. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
