[MBZ] California Parts Car/Fixer Bargain

[Rick Knoble]

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Only one more day left
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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[MBZ] Farhting around in old cars

[tom savage]

I had the opportunity to drive a W128 cabrio today.  Imagine my delight 
to discover that the ignition switch  actually has a position labeled 
"Fahrt."  The other two were "Garage" and "Halte." 


Tom,
Now wants a Ponton

[MBZ] Used parts specials for 9/14/06

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering

[Hendrik Riessen]

No, unless you like skinned knuckles. It has to be something flat so it will 
not slip off. Those bolts should not be tight but may be corroded. It helps 
to leave the serpentine belt in place to help hold the pulley.


Hendrik
who doesn't like skinned knuckles but always ends up with them

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering



Stick a big screwdriver between two of them to hold the pulley and
unscrew the third.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] oh MY

[Bob Rentfro]

Interior design done by Frau Kannnicht Farbensehen,
the world famous colorly-challanged (PC) upolsterer.
Bob Rentfro

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To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Mailing List" 


Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] oh MY



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 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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[MBZ] chimney

[Constantine N. Polites]

Followup:

Along Dave's pattern of thought, you could use Metalbestos flues from 
the basement through the
living room floor and then use offsets to connect with the existing 
chimney.  After that you can enclose the new pipes with a small 
partition.The insulated pipe can be placed within 2" of

combustable material.
Constantine

[MBZ] Chimney for wood stove

[Constantine N. Polites]

The all fuel flues from metalbestos are quite good. Go to 
www.selkirkinc.com. They are double wall stainless steel and come in 
various diameters from 5" to 14" and in lengths from 6" to 48".
A cleanout tee is recommended.  Get the Platinum series, ultra temp 
which goes up  to 2100 degrees Fahrenheit.


Constantine

Re: [MBZ] oh MY

[Rory]

Did I read it right 26K on the clock?

On 9/14/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
  87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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[MBZ] oh MY

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

sign them up here.

Rusty wrote:


I haven't checked the parking. There should be plenty. These people are
customers, friends & family. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

Question A: Do they have plenty of trailer parking?  I assume I will 
need to bring the trailer.


Question B: Who are all these people, I have never heard of most of
them.

Rusty wrote:



Here is an updated list of attendees. I am also including a nearby


Hotel


that we have arranged a reduced rate at. It is very convenient to our
office where the event will be held. If you would like to make a
reservation call 770-447-8446 and mention code/rate program code BMBS.
The rate is $54.00 for a studio suite with 1 queen bed and a queen


sofa

pull out. 


http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/ATLTN


The updated attendee list:


Ken Weimer

Kaleb Striplin

Regina Striplin

Chris Kueny

Colin Kueny

Bill Ricker

Tarek Elshanway

Rusty Cullens

Teri Cullens

Jane Mills

Jack Mills

Gary Hurst

Tom Benedikt

Sue Benedikt

Drew Tibcken

Linda Tibcken

Daryl Swain

Matthew Patterson

Todd Knutson

Terry Knutson

Ron Frazier

Laura Frazier

Jay Tutt

Kay Tutt

Pete Manchee

Tess Manchee

Jim Ellington

Bo Cullens

Aline Cullens

Dan Steadman

Sandy Steadman

Chip Lamb

Jaime Kopchinski

Fred Weprich

Darlene Weprich

David White

Theresa White

Mitch Marmel

Tom Hargrave

John Whitlock

Joel Suttles

Gene Baldwin

Dana Beardon

John Reames

Laura Reames

Ethan Reames

Matthew Hills

Mrs. Hills

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 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

As discussed before, if both show, trouble will follow.

Gary Hurst wrote:


is chip coming?  what about todd?




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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents

[andrew strasfogel]

I had some dents on the roof of the 123 300TD wagon that were impossible to
get at.  They had better luck with the dents in the doors.

On 9/14/06, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I had a 6" dent taken out by this method, and they did a great job. I
can't tell it ever was there. I suppose it depends on the person doing
the job, but I was very satisfied.

Tom Potter

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents

Hmm. Tempting. The consensus seems to be that most of the time, a good
result can be expected.

I'm sure there's a limit to how bad the dent can be and still have this
work.

I've heard mention of hail damage - that would seem to be small dings.

My dent is more like a pushed-in area on the pass. rear door. Not too
bad,
in fact somewhat hard to notice. But the area of damage spans about a
foot
in radius, and unfortunately, crosses the horizontal crease in the door.

Wonder if that's the sort of thing that dentless handles.

Brian
83 240D

On 9/13/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A lot of those guys just have trucks and their set of tools and come
to
> you.  They don't need a shop.
>
> --R
>
>
> >> any of these places around the Washington, DC,
> >> Baltimore, PA,
> >> Virginia area?  I have on on the left side fromt of the rear door.
> >>
> >> Rhonald
> >>
> >
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[MBZ] RustyQ P.S.

[Rusty]

If you want to make a reservation at the hotel, the discount applies
only until October 13th. Then it is lifted.

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Rusty]

October 28th, high noon.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

Rusty
When is this again? 
I must have deleted the info on the post IL trip email purge.

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove

[andrew strasfogel]

And what's wrong with a fireplace insert?  We had two of those in MD and
they heated adequately despite being situated at one end of the house, and
venting in an outside brick chimney.  Each had a blower.

On 9/14/06, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I mentioned that idea to my wife - didn't fly very well.

Dave Wakin

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove


> At 08:45 AM 9/14/2006, Dave Wakin wrote:
>
>>I have an existing chimney that is on the outside of my house. It's
footer
>>is at ground level and the existing flue pipe goes through the 1st floor
>>wall into our living room. What I would like to do is set the wood stove
>>up
>>in our basement, but I am unsure of how I could hook it up to the
existing
>>chimney.
>>
>>My thought is to install a second chimney along side the original that
>>goes
>>down underground far enough to tie into the basement, and then tie it
into
>>the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our living
>>room
>>would be sealed off.
>
>  My first worry would be whether the stove would still draw
well.  You
> would be adding more distance, twists and heat loss to the smoke path.
>
>  How about a metal pipe coming up through the living room floor
and  T
> 'ing into the existing hole in the wall.  That would give you a clean
out
> place and some extra heat in the living room from the pipe. The mess and
> dust from the wood stays in the basement.  Paint fake flames on the
> pipe.  Maybe a screen to set in front of it if small children are
> about.  You would be able to tell from your easy chair when to reload
the
> stove by how much the pipe is radiating at you.
>
>  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
>
>  Intimate behavior is quite often infantile.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Rusty]

I haven't checked the parking. There should be plenty. These people are
customers, friends & family. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

Question A: Do they have plenty of trailer parking?  I assume I will 
need to bring the trailer.

Question B: Who are all these people, I have never heard of most of
them.

Rusty wrote:

> Here is an updated list of attendees. I am also including a nearby
Hotel
> that we have arranged a reduced rate at. It is very convenient to our
> office where the event will be held. If you would like to make a
> reservation call 770-447-8446 and mention code/rate program code BMBS.
> The rate is $54.00 for a studio suite with 1 queen bed and a queen
sofa
> pull out. 
>  
> http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/ATLTN
>  
>  
> The updated attendee list:
>  
> 
> Ken Weimer
> 
> Kaleb Striplin
> 
> Regina Striplin
> 
> Chris Kueny
> 
> Colin Kueny
> 
> Bill Ricker
> 
> Tarek Elshanway
> 
> Rusty Cullens
> 
> Teri Cullens
> 
> Jane Mills
> 
> Jack Mills
> 
> Gary Hurst
> 
> Tom Benedikt
> 
> Sue Benedikt
> 
> Drew Tibcken
> 
> Linda Tibcken
> 
> Daryl Swain
> 
> Matthew Patterson
> 
> Todd Knutson
> 
> Terry Knutson
> 
> Ron Frazier
> 
> Laura Frazier
> 
> Jay Tutt
> 
> Kay Tutt
> 
> Pete Manchee
> 
> Tess Manchee
> 
> Jim Ellington
> 
> Bo Cullens
> 
> Aline Cullens
> 
> Dan Steadman
> 
> Sandy Steadman
> 
> Chip Lamb
> 
> Jaime Kopchinski
> 
> Fred Weprich
> 
> Darlene Weprich
> 
> David White
> 
> Theresa White
> 
> Mitch Marmel
> 
> Tom Hargrave
> 
> John Whitlock
> 
> Joel Suttles
> 
> Gene Baldwin
> 
> Dana Beardon
> 
> John Reames
> 
> Laura Reames
> 
> Ethan Reames
> 
> Matthew Hills
> 
> Mrs. Hills
>  
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  87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] 201 P/S Pulley

[Bob Rentfro]

Fred typed:

"The 3 bolts must have been put in by Odin and Thor."

Awesome. I hurt myself laughing. 


Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Bob Rentfro]

Rusty
When is this again? 
I must have deleted the info on the post IL trip email purge.


Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Gary Hurst]

is chip coming?  what about todd?

On 9/14/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Question A: Do they have plenty of trailer parking?  I assume I will
need to bring the trailer.

Question B: Who are all these people, I have never heard of most of them.

Rusty wrote:

> Here is an updated list of attendees. I am also including a nearby Hotel
> that we have arranged a reduced rate at. It is very convenient to our
> office where the event will be held. If you would like to make a
> reservation call 770-447-8446 and mention code/rate program code BMBS.
> The rate is $54.00 for a studio suite with 1 queen bed and a queen sofa
> pull out.
>
> http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/ATLTN
>
>
> The updated attendee list:
>
>
> Ken Weimer
>
> Kaleb Striplin
>
> Regina Striplin
>
> Chris Kueny
>
> Colin Kueny
>
> Bill Ricker
>
> Tarek Elshanway
>
> Rusty Cullens
>
> Teri Cullens
>
> Jane Mills
>
> Jack Mills
>
> Gary Hurst
>
> Tom Benedikt
>
> Sue Benedikt
>
> Drew Tibcken
>
> Linda Tibcken
>
> Daryl Swain
>
> Matthew Patterson
>
> Todd Knutson
>
> Terry Knutson
>
> Ron Frazier
>
> Laura Frazier
>
> Jay Tutt
>
> Kay Tutt
>
> Pete Manchee
>
> Tess Manchee
>
> Jim Ellington
>
> Bo Cullens
>
> Aline Cullens
>
> Dan Steadman
>
> Sandy Steadman
>
> Chip Lamb
>
> Jaime Kopchinski
>
> Fred Weprich
>
> Darlene Weprich
>
> David White
>
> Theresa White
>
> Mitch Marmel
>
> Tom Hargrave
>
> John Whitlock
>
> Joel Suttles
>
> Gene Baldwin
>
> Dana Beardon
>
> John Reames
>
> Laura Reames
>
> Ethan Reames
>
> Matthew Hills
>
> Mrs. Hills
>
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87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 300D 2.5 for sale in Portland, OR

[redghost]

PDX car.  The eco nuts in that town will add at least $1k to the 
selling price for a diesel in good shape to turn into a BioD or VO car


On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:22 PM, kevin kraly wrote:


Yeah, it's a bit steep.  If my budget was more accommodating, I would
probably offer a grand or two less than that although it would 
probably be

rejected.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon


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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

[MBZ] 201 P/S Pulley

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
  The pulley on my 190DT had to come off, out of the way, to do the headgasket 
and other cleanup. In my infinite capacity to screw-up, the triangular boss 
that holds the pulley lost an ear. The 3 bolts must have been put in by Odin 
and Thor. The final solutution was a J/Y replacement. Reviewing the mess that I 
had made of the original, showed me that despite trying methods ancient and 
modern, an air impact wrench is necessary for removal of those pesky bolts.
  I hope you have better luck!
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I mentioned that idea to my wife - didn't fly very well.

Dave Wakin

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> At 08:45 AM 9/14/2006, Dave Wakin wrote:
>
>>I have an existing chimney that is on the outside of my house. It's footer
>>is at ground level and the existing flue pipe goes through the 1st floor
>>wall into our living room. What I would like to do is set the wood stove 
>>up
>>in our basement, but I am unsure of how I could hook it up to the existing
>>chimney.
>>
>>My thought is to install a second chimney along side the original that 
>>goes
>>down underground far enough to tie into the basement, and then tie it into
>>the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our living 
>>room
>>would be sealed off.
>
>  My first worry would be whether the stove would still draw well.  You
> would be adding more distance, twists and heat loss to the smoke path.
>
>  How about a metal pipe coming up through the living room floor and  T
> 'ing into the existing hole in the wall.  That would give you a clean out
> place and some extra heat in the living room from the pipe. The mess and
> dust from the wood stays in the basement.  Paint fake flames on the
> pipe.  Maybe a screen to set in front of it if small children are
> about.  You would be able to tell from your easy chair when to reload the
> stove by how much the pipe is radiating at you.
>
>  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove

[Kris Gilmore]

At 08:45 AM 9/14/2006, Dave Wakin wrote:


I have an existing chimney that is on the outside of my house. It's footer
is at ground level and the existing flue pipe goes through the 1st floor
wall into our living room. What I would like to do is set the wood stove up
in our basement, but I am unsure of how I could hook it up to the existing
chimney.

My thought is to install a second chimney along side the original that goes
down underground far enough to tie into the basement, and then tie it into
the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our living room
would be sealed off.


 My first worry would be whether the stove would still draw well.  You 
would be adding more distance, twists and heat loss to the smoke path.


 How about a metal pipe coming up through the living room floor and  T 
'ing into the existing hole in the wall.  That would give you a clean out 
place and some extra heat in the living room from the pipe. The mess and 
dust from the wood stays in the basement.  Paint fake flames on the 
pipe.  Maybe a screen to set in front of it if small children are 
about.  You would be able to tell from your easy chair when to reload the 
stove by how much the pipe is radiating at you.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

 Intimate behavior is quite often infantile.

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Question A: Do they have plenty of trailer parking?  I assume I will 
need to bring the trailer.


Question B: Who are all these people, I have never heard of most of them.

Rusty wrote:


Here is an updated list of attendees. I am also including a nearby Hotel
that we have arranged a reduced rate at. It is very convenient to our
office where the event will be held. If you would like to make a
reservation call 770-447-8446 and mention code/rate program code BMBS.
The rate is $54.00 for a studio suite with 1 queen bed and a queen sofa
pull out. 
 
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/ATLTN
 
 
The updated attendee list:
 


Ken Weimer

Kaleb Striplin

Regina Striplin

Chris Kueny

Colin Kueny

Bill Ricker

Tarek Elshanway

Rusty Cullens

Teri Cullens

Jane Mills

Jack Mills

Gary Hurst

Tom Benedikt

Sue Benedikt

Drew Tibcken

Linda Tibcken

Daryl Swain

Matthew Patterson

Todd Knutson

Terry Knutson

Ron Frazier

Laura Frazier

Jay Tutt

Kay Tutt

Pete Manchee

Tess Manchee

Jim Ellington

Bo Cullens

Aline Cullens

Dan Steadman

Sandy Steadman

Chip Lamb

Jaime Kopchinski

Fred Weprich

Darlene Weprich

David White

Theresa White

Mitch Marmel

Tom Hargrave

John Whitlock

Joel Suttles

Gene Baldwin

Dana Beardon

John Reames

Laura Reames

Ethan Reames

Matthew Hills

Mrs. Hills
 
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[MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Rusty]

Here is an updated list of attendees. I am also including a nearby Hotel
that we have arranged a reduced rate at. It is very convenient to our
office where the event will be held. If you would like to make a
reservation call 770-447-8446 and mention code/rate program code BMBS.
The rate is $54.00 for a studio suite with 1 queen bed and a queen sofa
pull out. 
 
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/ATLTN
 
 
The updated attendee list:
 

Ken Weimer

Kaleb Striplin

Regina Striplin

Chris Kueny

Colin Kueny

Bill Ricker

Tarek Elshanway

Rusty Cullens

Teri Cullens

Jane Mills

Jack Mills

Gary Hurst

Tom Benedikt

Sue Benedikt

Drew Tibcken

Linda Tibcken

Daryl Swain

Matthew Patterson

Todd Knutson

Terry Knutson

Ron Frazier

Laura Frazier

Jay Tutt

Kay Tutt

Pete Manchee

Tess Manchee

Jim Ellington

Bo Cullens

Aline Cullens

Dan Steadman

Sandy Steadman

Chip Lamb

Jaime Kopchinski

Fred Weprich

Darlene Weprich

David White

Theresa White

Mitch Marmel

Tom Hargrave

John Whitlock

Joel Suttles

Gene Baldwin

Dana Beardon

John Reames

Laura Reames

Ethan Reames

Matthew Hills

Mrs. Hills
 

Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering/ NO-NOs!

[Curt Raymond]

Jim,
   
  I have a pulley puller, thats not the problem. The problem is that this isn't 
that kind of pulley. Its held to a hub with 3 bolts.
  On the way to work it occured to me to use a screwdriver to hold against the 
other 2 bolts, thanks to those who suggested it.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:54:46 EDT
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In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:51:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
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I'd  asked this a couple weeks ago but got no replies, has no one ever 
replaced a  w201 power steering pump?
I have no idea how the hell to get the  thing out. I *think* the pully 
has to 
come off, looks like 3 bolts, well I  sure as hell can't get 'em off. 
I figured I'd get 'em off the  replacement tonight to prove thats the 
way it 
goes. Well here I am snorting  and fighting with the thing when it 
occurs to 
me I'll have to get 'em off the  one actually in the car. Theres 
absolutely no 
way I can hold that pully tight  enough to get the bolts off without 
seriously 
mauling the pully. I'd bet with  a c-clamp on it I could pull 'em or 
with an 
air gun but theres no place to put  the gun in the engine bay. Maybe 
with 2 
wrenches at the same time?
I'll have to get growing that extra arm!

-Curt



Curt,
 
Autozone , and others, I am sure, will loan you a pulley puller kit 
which  is 
designed to remove the power steering pulley in place with no damage to 
the  
pump or pulley.  WEDGING tools is guaranteed to break some parts inside 
the  
pump.  HAMMERING is a  NO- NO too.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 145 K  miles


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Afraid I'm going to need to be more clever than that. To get an impact wrench 
in there (I presume you ment an impact wrench rather than just and air ratchet) 
I'd need to take the radiator out or find an extremely short impact wrench. 
Theres just not alot of extra room.
   
  -Curt
   
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You need a air impact tool to loosen the 3 bolts.


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Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents

[Potter, Tom E]

I had a 6" dent taken out by this method, and they did a great job. I
can't tell it ever was there. I suppose it depends on the person doing
the job, but I was very satisfied.

Tom Potter

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Hmm. Tempting. The consensus seems to be that most of the time, a good
result can be expected.

I'm sure there's a limit to how bad the dent can be and still have this
work.

I've heard mention of hail damage - that would seem to be small dings.

My dent is more like a pushed-in area on the pass. rear door. Not too
bad,
in fact somewhat hard to notice. But the area of damage spans about a
foot
in radius, and unfortunately, crosses the horizontal crease in the door.

Wonder if that's the sort of thing that dentless handles.

Brian
83 240D

On 9/13/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> A lot of those guys just have trucks and their set of tools and come
to
> you.  They don't need a shop.
>
> --R
>
>
> >> any of these places around the Washington, DC,
> >> Baltimore, PA,
> >> Virginia area?  I have on on the left side fromt of the rear door.
> >>
> >> Rhonald
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents

[Zoltan Finks]

Hmm. Tempting. The consensus seems to be that most of the time, a good
result can be expected.

I'm sure there's a limit to how bad the dent can be and still have this
work.

I've heard mention of hail damage - that would seem to be small dings.

My dent is more like a pushed-in area on the pass. rear door. Not too bad,
in fact somewhat hard to notice. But the area of damage spans about a foot
in radius, and unfortunately, crosses the horizontal crease in the door.

Wonder if that's the sort of thing that dentless handles.

Brian
83 240D

On 9/13/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


A lot of those guys just have trucks and their set of tools and come to
you.  They don't need a shop.

--R


>> any of these places around the Washington, DC,
>> Baltimore, PA,
>> Virginia area?  I have on on the left side fromt of the rear door.
>>
>> Rhonald
>>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove

[Rich Thomas]

Underground you need some sort of masonry shaft (you can buy concrete 
blocks in a "[ ]" shape to make a square shaft with about an 8" sq hole) 
and run a SS or clay liner up that to a bit above ground level, then go 
with a double-walled SS chimney up the side of the house along the other 
one (or wherever you want it).  That all needs to sit on a foundation 
pad underground so it does not sink.  Making a jog to the existing 
chimney will make a huge cleanout problem, and might not be allowed.  
You need to check codes wherever you live -- the fire dept and ( more 
importantly) your homeowner insurance company usually have some strong 
opinions about woodstoves and chimneys.  I think it also needs to go 
lower than where the WS flue goes in, for a lower cleanout port, so you 
are going to have to dig a sizeable hole down several feet, do a pour, 
build your flue, put in ports, etc.


None of this is cheap or particularly easy to do, but might be worth it 
if the payback numbers work.  I had a huge old Victorian house near 
Boston, had a woodstove in the kitchen using the old cookstove flue that 
went down to the basement (they had the cookstove in the basement back 
in those days, below the kitchen).  I ran the bottom cleanout to the 
basement.  I had to rebuild the top of the chimney where it made a jog 
in the attic, line it with SS, build it up at the top to meet code, 
etc.  House had an oil boiler for primary heat.  The last winter we were 
there I only spent $500 on oil when my neighbors were doing that every 
3-4 weeks or more often -- fired the stove in the evenings, set the 
thermostat at 58F to keep the downstairs tolerable, and the heat from 
the stove went up the back stairs to keep the upstairs comfortable 
through the night.  Timer turned on the boiler at 6AM for an hour to 
warm things a bit until I got the stove going again, then back to 58F 
for the day.  I scrounged firewood here and there (it warms you twice!) 
so cost of that was nothing but a coupla Saturdays a year and some gas 
for the chainsaw, and one year I rented a splitter as I had a whole 
maple tree to split up and that slitting maul was looking mighty 
fearsome.  I gave the city workers beer occasionally (leave a 6pack of 
Bud on top of my trash barrels!) and they would drop off some cut-up 
trees now and then when they had some good oak or maple -- saved them a 
trip to the dump.  The Bud was my largest annual expense.


--R


  

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove

[Dave Wakin]

Thanks Jim. Cleanout is one issue I thought of as well.



Have a look at http://www.woodheat.org/ they have some thoughts
on chimneys.  Outside brickwork is one of their least favorite
forms due to several ills and inefficiencies.  Best is a metal
pipe straight up through the center of the house.

My thought is to install a second chimney along side the original that 
goes
down underground far enough to tie into the basement, and then tie it 
into
the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our 
living room

would be sealed off.


The jog over would be a problem for efficiency and cleanout.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove

[Jim Cathey]

I have an existing chimney that is on the outside of my house. It's 
footer
is at ground level and the existing flue pipe goes through the 1st 
floor
wall into our living room. What I would like to do is set the wood 
stove up
in our basement, but I am unsure of how I could hook it up to the 
existing

chimney.


Have a look at http://www.woodheat.org/ they have some thoughts
on chimneys.  Outside brickwork is one of their least favorite
forms due to several ills and inefficiencies.  Best is a metal
pipe straight up through the center of the house.

My thought is to install a second chimney along side the original that 
goes
down underground far enough to tie into the basement, and then tie it 
into
the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our 
living room

would be sealed off.


The jog over would be a problem for efficiency and cleanout.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering

[archer]

A heavy duty strap type oil filter wrench will sometimes hold a flat pulley 
while unbolting it.


I've wrapped an old piece of flat belt around a flat pulley and then held it 
with a large pipe wrench while unbolting it if the pulley is not too large. 
The belt has to be thick enough such that the teeth of the pipe wrench won't 
penetrate it.


I've also wrapped an old flat belt around a flat pulley and pinched it tight 
with one or more vise grips, then held the vise grips while loosening the 
bolts.


Rubbing the pulley and the old belt with violin rosin (that's the only form 
of rosin I know of that's easily obtainable) will often keep it from 
slipping.  The rosin can probably be removed from the pulley with turpentine 
or other solvents once it's off.


I've never worked on a w201 so I'm assuming it has a flat pulley.

Good luck,
Gerry


I'd asked this a couple weeks ago but got no replies, has no one ever 
replaced a w201 power steering pump?
 I have no idea how the hell to get the thing out. I *think* the pully has 
to come off, looks like 3 bolts, well I sure as hell can't get 'em off.
 I figured I'd get 'em off the replacement tonight to prove thats the way 
it goes. Well here I am snorting and fighting with the thing when it 
occurs to me I'll have to get 'em off the one actually in the car. Theres 
absolutely no way I can hold that pully tight enough to get the bolts off 
without seriously mauling the pully. I'd bet with a c-clamp on it I could 
pull 'em or with an air gun but theres no place to put the gun in the 
engine bay. Maybe with 2 wrenches at the same time?

 I'll have to get growing that extra arm!
 -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 1990 300TE

[Dave Wakin]

I just sold one, same year with 136K. Mine was black on black, very nice 
shape.


Best I could get was $3300.

Dave Wakin

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Subject: [MBZ] Columbus CL 1990 300TE



http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/206943809.html

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[MBZ] OT: Chimney for wood stove

[Dave Wakin]

This is definitely OT. Nothing about a Mercedes, just trying to find out if 
anyone can give me any input on a chimney for a wood stove.


I have an existing chimney that is on the outside of my house. It's footer 
is at ground level and the existing flue pipe goes through the 1st floor 
wall into our living room. What I would like to do is set the wood stove up 
in our basement, but I am unsure of how I could hook it up to the existing 
chimney.


My thought is to install a second chimney along side the original that goes 
down underground far enough to tie into the basement, and then tie it into 
the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our living room 
would be sealed off.


Thanks in advance,

Dave Wakin 

Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's

[Potter, Tom E]

Since I won't go too much further off topic here. Does anyone have a VSS
for an older model 700R4 from an early '80s Pontiac Firebird. I need the
one with the gear drive in the transmission and the electronic output
for the electronic speedometer.

I swapped an older 700R4 into my 1992 GMC and now I have no speedometer
until I find a proper VSS. The newer model VSS is operated by a reluctor
ring on the transmission tailshaft. Swapping a reluctor onto the older
transmission can be done, but it is a lot of work. From what research I
have done, I understand that the early '80s Pontiac Firebirds had the
electronic speedometer with the gear drive on the tailshaft.

Tom Potter

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They used the 700r4 up till 92.  But yes, its set up different than the 
gasser versions.

Fmiser wrote:

> rumor has it that Potter, wrote:
>  
> 
>>Now that I think of it, are you sure that vehicle has a 700R4. I
>>thought it came with a TH400 (aka 3L80 or 4L80). I don't think the
>>700R4 was used with the diesel, though I am not sure.
>>
>>Tom Potter
> 
> 
> It was, but not necessarily in `90. I got a used transmission for my
> 85 petrol suburban out of an 86 diesel. It was a 700R4, but the torque
> converter and shiftpoints are different than for the petrol.
> 
> --   Philip, wishin' I had a Cummins in mine.
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Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering/ NO-NOs!

[Tom Hargrave]

You need a air impact tool to loosen the 3 bolts.


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In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:51:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'd  asked this a couple weeks ago but got no replies, has no one ever
replaced a  w201 power steering pump?
I have no idea how the hell to get the  thing out. I *think* the pully has
to come off, looks like 3 bolts, well I  sure as hell can't get 'em off. 
I figured I'd get 'em off the  replacement tonight to prove thats the way it
goes. Well here I am snorting  and fighting with the thing when it occurs to
me I'll have to get 'em off the  one actually in the car. Theres absolutely
no way I can hold that pully tight  enough to get the bolts off without
seriously mauling the pully. I'd bet with  a c-clamp on it I could pull 'em
or with an air gun but theres no place to put  the gun in the engine bay.
Maybe with 2 wrenches at the same time?
I'll have to get growing that extra arm!

-Curt



Curt,
 
Autozone , and others, I am sure, will loan you a pulley puller kit which
is designed to remove the power steering pulley in place with no damage to
the pump or pulley.  WEDGING tools is guaranteed to break some parts inside
the pump.  HAMMERING is a  NO- NO too.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles
98 ML 320, 145 K  miles

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[MBZ] German werdz

[Frederick Moir]

As students, 3 of us went on a Rheindamfshiffahrt. Does this qualify?
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  p.s. If it is mis-spelled, too bad!


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steam (dampf) ship cruise of the Rhine? Cool!
 
 Chris 

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In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:51:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'd  asked this a couple weeks ago but got no replies, has no one ever 
replaced a  w201 power steering pump?
I have no idea how the hell to get the  thing out. I *think* the pully has to 
come off, looks like 3 bolts, well I  sure as hell can't get 'em off. 
I figured I'd get 'em off the  replacement tonight to prove thats the way it 
goes. Well here I am snorting  and fighting with the thing when it occurs to 
me I'll have to get 'em off the  one actually in the car. Theres absolutely no 
way I can hold that pully tight  enough to get the bolts off without seriously 
mauling the pully. I'd bet with  a c-clamp on it I could pull 'em or with an 
air gun but theres no place to put  the gun in the engine bay. Maybe with 2 
wrenches at the same time?
I'll have to get growing that extra arm!

-Curt



Curt,
 
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designed to remove the power steering pulley in place with no damage to

Re: [MBZ] German words (unkown in Germany)

[Tom Hargrave]

"Macht Nicht" Literal translation - "Matters Not". 


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> They were titled "Mox Nix" and "More Mox Nix"... A take off on Macht 
> Nicht...  Which if memory serves me means "Means Nothing"...

Literally, "makes nothing".  Colloquially, "no matter", "means nothing",
"no problem".   IIRC, of course!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] thump thump clump clump sound

[Jim Cathey]

My son's newly purchased 450 SLC suddenly started making this very 
loud and
scary sound upon acceleration.  It is heard as well as felt from start 
to
about 20 mph, and then again on deceleration from that speed but much 
milder.


My money's on the center bearing support.  (Rubber.)  Had several of
them go bad, versus none of the flex discs.  But you need to get under
there to check it out.  The bearing support won't ruin your day as it
fails, not so the flex discs!  (The bearing and center of the driveline
is captured by the support's metal ring.)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] German words (unkown in Germany)

[Jim Cathey]

They were titled "Mox Nix" and "More Mox Nix"... A take off on
Macht Nicht...  Which if memory serves me means "Means Nothing"...


Literally, "makes nothing".  Colloquially, "no matter", "means nothing",
"no problem".   IIRC, of course!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering

[Peter Frederick]

Stick a big screwdriver between two of them to hold the pulley and 
unscrew the third.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT: A real Hummdinger

[Sunil Hari]

i've always known they've sucked, esp the H2's.  the H1 is great as a soft
military vehicle.

On 9/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Zeitgeist wrote:

> This is too rich...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIh4or5EUsc
>

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  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

uh, no.

Michael Hall wrote:


Is it for sale?



I have a whole damn spare 124 2.5 turbo laying around!!

I cant find my damn compression tester,  thinking I might have to buy 
the harbor freight kit.


OK Don wrote:

 


Compression test ?
You have spare 602 engines lying around?

So what do you think is causing this chugga chugga?  Im thinking

   


just pulling the motor and dropping in the other motor/trans I have and
be done with it.  Just wanted to see what was up with this one first.
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Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

They used the 700r4 up till 92.  But yes, its set up different than the 
gasser versions.


Fmiser wrote:


rumor has it that Potter, wrote:
 


Now that I think of it, are you sure that vehicle has a 700R4. I
thought it came with a TH400 (aka 3L80 or 4L80). I don't think the
700R4 was used with the diesel, though I am not sure.

Tom Potter



It was, but not necessarily in `90. I got a used transmission for my
85 petrol suburban out of an 86 diesel. It was a 700R4, but the torque
converter and shiftpoints are different than for the petrol.

--   Philip, wishin' I had a Cummins in mine.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: A real Hummdinger

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Zeitgeist wrote:


This is too rich...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIh4or5EUsc



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 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] 603 Injection Pump leak

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I always just use an open end wrench.

OK Don wrote:


Do you have a crow's foot type socket to torque the injection line
fittings, or just pull with an open end wrench?

Have any spare (good) 603 injector lines?

On 9/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have had a couple of cars where those lines cracked right at the
fitting, check that.  In fact, I just had to replace on of the lines on
my new SDL because it started leaking at the pump.  Was not cracked, but
for some reason, would not seal.







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 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The big round lifters move up and down, cant really tell more than that. 
 Doesnt really act like a blown head gasket.  All the ones I have seen 
blow massive smoke and oil out the back, this one smokes, but its not an 
oil smoke, its like burning too much diesel smoke.


Peter Frederick wrote:

Pull the valve cover and watch for air blowing out the head/block 
junction at the front of the engine.  This is a known head gasket 
failure on the -14- heads on 603s, and I would assume equally possible 
on a 602.  Will cause lots of blue smoke from oil sucked into #1 on the 
intake stroke.


I would also watch the intake valve on #1 -- it can indeed stick.

Peter


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[MBZ] Columbus CL 1990 300TE

[Sunil Hari]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/206943809.html

any lookers?

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Re: [MBZ] 603 Injection Pump leak

[Richard Smith]

I have had to replace two lines. One on and SDL and one on an SD. Both 87's.
Both were just oozing, no spray. Both were cracked at the fitting. I have
had to replace one o-ring. It too was just oozing.

Each of the three times I was able to clean the connectors and the top of
the injector pump with brake parts cleaner, let it dry, then start the car.
Then you can see if its seeping at the fitting or down at the base. If its
leeking real fast you may have to get someone else to start the car while
you are watching.

Hope this helps.


On 9/13/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Do you have a crow's foot type socket to torque the injection line
fittings, or just pull with an open end wrench?

Have any spare (good) 603 injector lines?

On 9/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have had a couple of cars where those lines cracked right at the
> fitting, check that.  In fact, I just had to replace on of the lines on
> my new SDL because it started leaking at the pump.  Was not cracked, but
> for some reason, would not seal.
>


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Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
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Re: [MBZ] German words (unkown in Germany)

[Loren Faeth]

all who have been to an okieQ alrady have done the okiefahrt  and thos who 
live outside of OK, have done the okieinfahrt and the oukieausfahrt


At 08:36 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:
An integral part of the next OkieQ MUST be the Okiefahrtand if we all 
follow Kaleb's car...the Kalebfahrt.


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On 9/13/06, Loren Faeth  wrote:
>
> Ja, I enjoy die ausfahrt much more than die infahrt
>
>
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k)
'84 300D (216k)
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Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Potter, wrote:
 
> Now that I think of it, are you sure that vehicle has a 700R4. I
> thought it came with a TH400 (aka 3L80 or 4L80). I don't think the
> 700R4 was used with the diesel, though I am not sure.
> 
> Tom Potter

It was, but not necessarily in `90. I got a used transmission for my
85 petrol suburban out of an 86 diesel. It was a 700R4, but the torque
converter and shiftpoints are different than for the petrol.

--   Philip, wishin' I had a Cummins in mine.

Re: [MBZ] German words (unkown in Germany)

[Christopher McCann]

An integral part of the next OkieQ MUST be the Okiefahrtand if we all 
follow Kaleb's car...the Kalebfahrt.

Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Das Fenster bitte öffnen

On 9/13/06, Loren Faeth  wrote:
>
> Ja, I enjoy die ausfahrt much more than die infahrt
>
>
Casey
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Always ausfahrt.  Much more satisfying than infahrt!



At 08:21 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:
>Don't know how many are old enough to remember a coupla' books
>written back during the latter days of WWII..
>
>They were titled "Mox Nix" and "More Mox Nix"...  A take off
>on Macht Nicht  Which if memory serves me means "Means
>Nothing"
>
>Anyhow, two GI's, Ernie and Joe, (maybe the Mauldin guys) were
>driving their jeep in one cartoon and all of those signs along with
>others were there...
>
>Ernie turns to Joe and sez..  "I just don't know which
>way to fahrt!"..
>
>It's been a long time and I wish I had kept those books...
>
>Take care,
>
>Chuck
>On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:
>
> > die ausfahrt - exit ramp
> >  die infahrt - on ramp
> >  die autofahrt - the car ride
> >  die hinfahrt - the journey/ride there
> >
> >  endless possibilities!
> >
> >  Chris
> >
> >  P.S. how about a drive you took long ago...an "old drive"die
> > altfahrt?  :-)
> >
> >  Ich mag mein Mercedes fahren
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's it
> > -- Zundfolge!  Many thanks (saved me from popping the
> > hood/bonnet to look.
> >
> > Fahrzeug is pretty good too.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > Maurits Obbink wrote:
> >> I'm sorry to say, but I really can't grasp what "Farhrtzoid" means,
> >> don't you mean "Fahrzeug" (=3Dvehicle) Fahren =3D driving/ sailing.
> >> Zeug =3D
> >> the device with which the previous act is conducted. (e.g. Werkzeug =3D
> >> Tool =3D Work+...)
> >>
> >> "Zundfugel" --> Zundfolge (Zund =3D spark/ignite, Folge =3D order)
> >>
> >> Kind regards, Freundliche Gr=FC=DFe,
> >>
> >> Maurits Obbink
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] German words (unkown in Germany)

[Chuck Landenberger]

Don't know how many are old enough to remember a coupla' books  
written back during the latter days of WWII..


They were titled "Mox Nix" and "More Mox Nix"...  A take off  
on Macht Nicht  Which if memory serves me means "Means  
Nothing"


Anyhow, two GI's, Ernie and Joe, (maybe the Mauldin guys) were  
driving their jeep in one cartoon and all of those signs along with  
others were there...


Ernie turns to Joe and sez..  "I just don't know which  
way to fahrt!"..


It's been a long time and I wish I had kept those books...

Take care,

Chuck
On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


die ausfahrt - exit ramp
 die infahrt - on ramp
 die autofahrt - the car ride
 die hinfahrt - the journey/ride there

 endless possibilities!

 Chris

 P.S. how about a drive you took long ago...an "old drive"die  
altfahrt?  :-)


 Ich mag mein Mercedes fahren




Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's it  
-- Zundfolge!  Many thanks (saved me from popping the

hood/bonnet to look.

Fahrzeug is pretty good too.

--R

Maurits Obbink wrote:

I'm sorry to say, but I really can't grasp what "Farhrtzoid" means,
don't you mean "Fahrzeug" (=vehicle) Fahren = driving/ sailing.  
Zeug =

the device with which the previous act is conducted. (e.g. Werkzeug =
Tool = Work+...)

"Zundfugel" --> Zundfolge (Zund = spark/ignite, Folge = order)

Kind regards, Freundliche Grüße,

Maurits Obbink





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Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Michael Hall]

Is it for sale?


I have a whole damn spare 124 2.5 turbo laying around!!

I cant find my damn compression tester,  thinking I might have to buy 
the harbor freight kit.


OK Don wrote:

  

Compression test ?
You have spare 602 engines lying around?

 So what do you think is causing this chugga chugga?  Im thinking



just pulling the motor and dropping in the other motor/trans I have and
be done with it.  Just wanted to see what was up with this one first.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK

Re: [MBZ] 201 Power steering

[OK Don]

I've never done this, but have often thought that all pulleys should
have holes drilled through them so you could stick a rod through them
to hold them still while you remove the nut/bolt in front of them.
(Couldn't add any more "them"s to that sentence!). No I've never even
looked closely at a 201 pump --

On 9/13/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'd asked this a couple weeks ago but got no replies, has no one ever replaced 
a w201 power steering pump?
  I have no idea how the hell to get the thing out. I *think* the pully has to 
come off, looks like 3 bolts, well I sure as hell can't get 'em off.
  I figured I'd get 'em off the replacement tonight to prove thats the way it 
goes. Well here I am snorting and fighting with the thing when it occurs to me 
I'll have to get 'em off the one actually in the car. Theres absolutely no way 
I can hold that pully tight enough to get the bolts off without seriously 
mauling the pully. I'd bet with a c-clamp on it I could pull 'em or with an air 
gun but theres no place to put the gun in the engine bay. Maybe with 2 wrenches 
at the same time?
  I'll have to get growing that extra arm!

  -Curt



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[MBZ] 201 Power steering

[Curt Raymond]

I'd asked this a couple weeks ago but got no replies, has no one ever replaced 
a w201 power steering pump?
  I have no idea how the hell to get the thing out. I *think* the pully has to 
come off, looks like 3 bolts, well I sure as hell can't get 'em off. 
  I figured I'd get 'em off the replacement tonight to prove thats the way it 
goes. Well here I am snorting and fighting with the thing when it occurs to me 
I'll have to get 'em off the one actually in the car. Theres absolutely no way 
I can hold that pully tight enough to get the bolts off without seriously 
mauling the pully. I'd bet with a c-clamp on it I could pull 'em or with an air 
gun but theres no place to put the gun in the engine bay. Maybe with 2 wrenches 
at the same time?
  I'll have to get growing that extra arm!
   
  -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 603 Injection Pump leak

[OK Don]

Do you have a crow's foot type socket to torque the injection line
fittings, or just pull with an open end wrench?

Have any spare (good) 603 injector lines?

On 9/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have had a couple of cars where those lines cracked right at the
fitting, check that.  In fact, I just had to replace on of the lines on
my new SDL because it started leaking at the pump.  Was not cracked, but
for some reason, would not seal.




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Re: [MBZ] 603 Injection Pump leak

[Peter Frederick]

Delivery valve o-rings.  Get new seals and torque properly, else you 
get a dead miss on leaking ones.  Cracked lines don't ooze, they spray 
fuel everywhere.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Peter Frederick]

Pull the valve cover and watch for air blowing out the head/block 
junction at the front of the engine.  This is a known head gasket 
failure on the -14- heads on 603s, and I would assume equally possible 
on a 602.  Will cause lots of blue smoke from oil sucked into #1 on the 
intake stroke.


I would also watch the intake valve on #1 -- it can indeed stick.

Peter

Re: [MBZ] 603 Injection Pump leak

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have had a couple of cars where those lines cracked right at the 
fitting, check that.  In fact, I just had to replace on of the lines on 
my new SDL because it started leaking at the pump.  Was not cracked, but 
for some reason, would not seal.


OK Don wrote:


Fuel is pooling on top of the injection pump and stinking in the SDL.
My first thought is that one or two of the delivery valve seals are
leaking. The car had been sitting for four or five days since it was
last driven, then took a good 40 seconds or more of cranking to start
it today, telling me that air is getting where it doesn't belong.
Is this indicative of bad delivery valve seals, or is it likely to be
something else, like a crakced line?



--
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hahaha, BT, WRONG

Loren Faeth wrote:


hole in the piston
burned valve
badly scored cylinder/cracked rings/messed up piston


Give ya $50 for the car

At 06:54 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:


Compression test ?
You have spare 602 engines lying around?

So what do you think is causing this chugga chugga?  Im thinking


just pulling the motor and dropping in the other motor/trans I have and
be done with it.  Just wanted to see what was up with this one first.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK


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Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
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Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have a whole damn spare 124 2.5 turbo laying around!!

I cant find my damn compression tester,  thinking I might have to buy 
the harbor freight kit.


OK Don wrote:


Compression test ?
You have spare 602 engines lying around?

 So what do you think is causing this chugga chugga?  Im thinking


just pulling the motor and dropping in the other motor/trans I have and
be done with it.  Just wanted to see what was up with this one first.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK





--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] 603 Injection Pump leak

[OK Don]

Fuel is pooling on top of the injection pump and stinking in the SDL.
My first thought is that one or two of the delivery valve seals are
leaking. The car had been sitting for four or five days since it was
last driven, then took a good 40 seconds or more of cranking to start
it today, telling me that air is getting where it doesn't belong.
Is this indicative of bad delivery valve seals, or is it likely to be
something else, like a crakced line?

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Loren Faeth]

hole in the piston
burned valve
badly scored cylinder/cracked rings/messed up piston


Give ya $50 for the car

At 06:54 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:

Compression test ?
You have spare 602 engines lying around?

 So what do you think is causing this chugga chugga?  Im thinking
> just pulling the motor and dropping in the other motor/trans I have and
> be done with it.  Just wanted to see what was up with this one first.
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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