Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Never did find that B-52 in the lake http://wikimapia.org/151809/ but apparently there is not much left to see, did find a little park where the NVA left a pile of anti aircraft weapons and guidance radars and such. Apparently the B-52 in the lake was shot down in Dec 72. Thankfully I have never been on the receiving (or giving) end of a bombing raid but it must be sheer hell. Apparently at the war museum in London they have a simulator that recreates what it was like during the blitz, mate of mine had a go but didn't last the full session. I suppose Vietnam was the hot war the cold war needed not to get turned into WW3. Hendrik who don't like war much wilton strickland wrote: Dropped a lot of iron from B-52's onto Vietnam, including Linebacker II missions to Hanoi in Dec 72, to help bring an end to that national tragedy of Vietnam. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
What sort of camera are you using, I take it is a digital one. Some of the early model digital cameras are really hard to get into focus. Close ups are a real pain with a budget digital, however spending 1000's on a fancy digital is also a pain, specially if they get stolen. Anyway I was only having a bit of a dig and I couldn't do much better with an average digital camera. Hendrik wilton strickland wrote: Yeah, I'm very disappointed (and embarrassed) with the focus of the photos. Evidently, I was too close for aotofocus to handle it. Yes, my eyesight is still good enough to see that the photos are not well focused and, therefore, I shouldn't have sent 'em. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again and flushing diffs
I know of two types, my 210 has a red top and the 124 has a black top. On the red one the fuse slides in sideways and on the black one the fuse goes in vertical. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: I tried to pull it [OVP] apart for a resolder but could not figure out how. I have seen pictures of them pulled apart. It's very clever. That plastic fuse holder is in two pieces, and locks the cover onto the relay body. It slips apart, like one of those wooden cube interlocking puzzles. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] generator light 126
the 300se generator light is not coming on and there is no charging. Anything to check before replacing the generator ? Thanks mak ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Hendrik, the camera is my wife's Canon S-410. I've never used it before 'cause my tremor has been so bad for several years 'til recently that I couldn't even HOLD it, much less use it. 'Gonna try it again 'cause it does worry me to have sent out-of-focus photos to such a fine bunch of Mercedes aficionado perfectionists. 'Think I'll back off from the subject next time so the autofocus can do its work. I know it was a light-hearted dig. I do appreciate the critique and am not surprised - actually, fully expected. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator light 126
the 300se generator light is not coming on and there is no charging. Anything to check before replacing the generator ? The bulb itself. Car won't charge if the bulb is burnt out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
wilton strickland wrote: 'Gonna try it again 'cause it does worry me to have sent out-of-focus photos to such a fine bunch of Mercedes aficionado perfectionists. If you have the instruction manual, look for a macro mode. Some cameras just won't go closer than 3-5 feet, in which case you're stuck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
wilton strickland wrote: 'Think I'll back off from the subject next time so the autofocus can do its work. You might want to look into a 'macro' mode for the camera. It should allow you to focus on things that are inches from the camera lens. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Jim Cathey wrote: Had the South won independence I wonder how things would have ultimately turned out. I'm completely confident that slavery would still be long gone, and I wonder if its demise would have gone smoother that way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline-191 I read the first few of the series, and they are pretty good. Turtledove is a master of alternate history... john ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
The S-410 does have macro mode, and should focus down to 1.5' even when not in macro. http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/s410.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
I read the first few of the series, and they are pretty good. Turtledove is a master of alternate history... Wow, that's a pretty grim synopsis! Fictional, of course, but disturbing nonetheless. USA as an Axis power... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does not one imply the other? I.e., if the aux pump isn't working, you'll get no heat at idle, overcorrected by extra heat at the start of not-idle. I suppose it depends on how responsive (and even predictive) the system really is. I've noticed no such bursts from any of our cars, and on several the aux pump is dead or disabled. Not definitive, by any means. Well, I'm going to be draining the system and testing both the aux pump and the monovalve per Peter's excellent instructions in the near future, then replacing either or both as necessary... so we'll have a data point from a 124 at least. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
Hendrick said. OPEC is very shy of telling exactly how much they have left, so as to stuff the world around. Also China and other parts of the developing world are starting to use up vast quantities of oil. There may well be oil reserves under the oceans but getting at them will require technology that is still beyond us. I suppose it is in the interest of OPEC to not oversupply, cause once their oil runs out it's back to herding camels in the desert. Actually, deep water drilling is getting fairly common. It was new back in 2001 when I worked for Unocal (Now part of Chevron), but Chevron recently drilled a well in 7000 feet of water and 20,000 feet of seabed. That opens up a LOT of area for access. It does take about 10 years to get it drilled and on production. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Hey Wilton - would you care to comment further on how you made the wooden key tops? I have been toying with the idea of doing the same. Essentially, so far, I have routed out half depth in each side wooden piece with a dremel and planned to glue the two pieces of wood together. Initially I thought 2 part epoxy but then was wondering about using Gorilla Glue which says it will bond metal and wood. I also wondered about drilling the key where it will be in the wood to perhaps give the glue a better bite on it. I also wondered about putting a small brass rivet through the whole thing to tie it together along with the glue. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Curt, John, Clay and Rich. Ta very much! It looks like Samsung is going to get some of my money. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Our Political System
andrew strasfogel wrote: Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. Actually, I do believe I'm a pretty reasonable guy, but I also know that the War of Northern Aggression was not fought by the South to continue slavery. The vast majority of Southerners did not own slaves and did not favor slavery. By the time the North invaded the South, slavery was in decline and would have ended anyway because it didn't make economic sense. No, the war was about the North's tendency to try to dictate to other folks how they were going to run their business, kinda like the revolutionary war was about the British telling the colonists how they were going to run their business...and kinda like liberals think they can tell the rest of us what to think and how we should handle our business. It's about freedom. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Oh? I thought Samsung made their own and for Sony. Ahh a Google search yields that Samsung sometimes uses their own panels but not always -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:04:15 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed They get their panels from the same Sharp factory, and just yesterday was an announcement that all 3 are investing a $bil or 2 to build another panel factory for 40 screens. The quality difference among them is most likely due to video signal processing differences among the various manufacturers. --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Thanks to several for the camera ops tips - macro, etc. 'Just took more photos - 'thought I'd crop as necessary. BTW, as usual, when all else fails, check the manual. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
I was over at Sams earlier this morning, took a look at various panels. Contrast ratio ran all the way from 1000:1 on an Olevia 50some to 25000:1 (or something like that) on a Sony that was a bit smaller, with prices to match. The Olevia looked like a washed-out watercolor, while the Sony was razor-sharp. The Samsung I looked at was about 1:1 and looked pretty good. I am not sure how well the eye can see the 2.5:1 difference between the better panels, but the 10:1 between the Samsung and Olevia was extremely noticeable. There was an older woman there looking at a Samsung, I mentioned I thought they were about the best value, and she agreed, and was shopping prices/sizes. YMMV. --R Frederick W Moir wrote: Curt, John, Clay and Rich. Ta very much! It looks like Samsung is going to get some of my money. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Look around in your camera for the macro setting. It'll allow the camera to focus up close at the loss of any zoom capablity. Most digitals have it, once its enabled you'll be able to get pics like that to work out. -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:31:49 -0500 From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Yeah, I'm very disappointed (and embarrassed) with the focus of the photos. Evidently, I was too close for aotofocus to handle it. Yes, my eyesight is still good enough to see that the photos are not well focused and, therefore, I shouldn't have sent 'em. Wilton - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
I just snagged a 19 widescreen Samsung 906BW on ebay for $170 shipped. It's crystal clear at 2000:1 with a 2ms latency. LCD monitors can digitally enhance the contrast ratio much farther than the physical LCD is capable. Where you really see quality in LCD is the latency (how quick the individual pixel can turn on and off). The lower the number, the less Haley's Comet trail you will see on the screen. Luther On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:51:18 -0600, Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt, John, Clay and Rich. Ta very much! It looks like Samsung is going to get some of my money. Fred Moir Lynn MA -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Don't need to spilt the blank and glue it together around the key. I started with a blank slightly bigger and thicker, of course, than finished top. 'Started with thickness about 5/16 inch. I filed off some excess on each side of the key top itself to square-up the wings and to slightly reduce the required width of slot to be routed into the wood blank. Note that thickness of the key is 1/8 inch. Using 1/8 inch dia. drill and grinder bits, I used Dremmel to rout 7/8 inch wide slot into leading edge of the blank, being careful to cut parallel to sides, etc. 'Measured depth by sight, small probes and by trial-and-error insertion of the key into the slot. Because of my still slightly shaky hands, I ended with slot slightly bigger than 1/8 X 7/8. I secured key in the slot with 2-part epoxy; appropriate, thick glue should work, also. I say thick, 'cause ya wanta make sure all voids around the key are filled. With wood blank secured in small vice, I pushed epoxy into the slot, trying to have enough to squeeze out around the key but not so much to make a terrible mess. With epoxy in the slot, I pushed the key into it; 'had to add a little bit of epoxy around the key to completely fill the slot. Make sure key is aligned properly in the blank - sight all 3 directions - vertically, side-to-side and front to back. If necessary, secure it in position temporarily with masking tape while epoxy cures. Next day, I used file, rasp, sandpaper, etc., to finish new wood top to appropriate size. I stopped with a top slightly thicker than originals because I didn't wanta leave the wood too thin on each side of the key. I drilled key ring hole smaller than orig. to help maintain integrity of the wood, also, though I'm sure hole can be bigger than mine. 'Finished with 4 to 5 rubbings of clear past varnish. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Interesting. I had not really thought about mortising the metal key into a slot on the bottom of the wooden part. I need to do a couple so maybe I will try that. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:46 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops Don't need to spilt the blank and glue it together around the key. I started with a blank slightly bigger and thicker, of course, than finished top. 'Started with thickness about 5/16 inch. I filed off some excess on each side of the key top itself to square-up the wings and to slightly reduce the required width of slot to be routed into the wood blank. Note that thickness of the key is 1/8 inch. Using 1/8 inch dia. drill and grinder bits, I used Dremmel to rout 7/8 inch wide slot into leading edge of the blank, being careful to cut parallel to sides, etc. 'Measured depth by sight, small probes and by trial-and-error insertion of the key into the slot. Because of my still slightly shaky hands, I ended with slot slightly bigger than 1/8 X 7/8. I secured key in the slot with 2-part epoxy; appropriate, thick glue should work, also. I say thick, 'cause ya wanta make sure all voids around the key are filled. With wood blank secured in small vice, I pushed epoxy into the slot, trying to have enough to squeeze out around the key but not so much to make a terrible mess. With epoxy in the slot, I pushed the key into it; 'had to add a little bit of epoxy around the key to completely fill the slot. Make sure key is aligned properly in the blank - sight all 3 directions - vertically, side-to-side and front to back. If necessary, secure it in position temporarily with masking tape while epoxy cures. Next day, I used file, rasp, sandpaper, etc., to finish new wood top to appropriate size. I stopped with a top slightly thicker than originals because I didn't wanta leave the wood too thin on each side of the key. I drilled key ring hole smaller than orig. to help maintain integrity of the wood, also, though I'm sure hole can be bigger than mine. 'Finished with 4 to 5 rubbings of clear past varnish. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] this is wrong!
This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. http://tinyurl.com/26gdv3 Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. http://tinyurl.com/26gdv3 That's actually kind of funny. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. http://tinyurl.com/26gdv3 They should've put an S-class front end on one of those Dodge 600 convertibles that came from the factory with the Mercedes-font badge on the back. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
It is at the very least, wierd. I remember seeing a Temp or Topaz last summer with the grill pieces from a BMW grafted on. It looked pretty silly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] this is wrong! This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. http://tinyurl.com/26gdv3 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT new BMW
Saw an article in our daily paper this morning about a new series 1 BMW that they say is a lot like the old 2002 (is that right? it looks funny) BMW's. Small and light with a big motor and lots of jam. Available in coupe and cabriolet. It looked good. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Not sure where I heard it but I was always told the War of Northern Aggression was about States rights. Read the constitution as it regards states rights and you will see how much the federal govt has oversteped the Constitution *BIG* time. Not sure how things woud be now if the south had won - but IMO things would have been *very* different. I hope both N S would have banded together to fight the Nazi's. Without a *United* states the germans would have taken much more time to defeat. All IMO of course. ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System andrew strasfogel wrote: Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. Actually, I do believe I'm a pretty reasonable guy, but I also know that the War of Northern Aggression was not fought by the South to continue slavery. The vast majority of Southerners did not own slaves and did not favor slavery. By the time the North invaded the South, slavery was in decline and would have ended anyway because it didn't make economic sense. No, the war was about the North's tendency to try to dictate to other folks how they were going to run their business, kinda like the revolutionary war was about the British telling the colonists how they were going to run their business...and kinda like liberals think they can tell the rest of us what to think and how we should handle our business. It's about freedom. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again
You wrote I think you are a bit confused Wouldn't be the 1st time!! ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABS question again I think you are a bit confused, I am not wanting to clean the ABS light but the toothed ring inside the diff, the sensor is no worries because it can be pulled out and given a wipe down to make it shiny again. Hendrik LarryT wrote: Contact cleaner would probably not damage anything and it;s a pretty good cleaner. Is it an optical sensor? Does the glass lens you are cleaning have a light in it? - or is it a target for a light? Just curious - You might be able to find a bottle cleaning brush to push into the hole and clean things. Kitchen specialty shops are good sources and I bought a bag of assorted bottle/tube brushes to clean my air-powered paint guns at a painting website - Like these - http://www.bottlebooks.com/brushes.htm You also might be able to use Dental Picks - ask your dentist for his old ones - whenever I ask mine he give me a handful from a drawer full! Since I have a similar car I'd like to know what to expect should mine start to act funny. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new BMW
if it's the one I'm thinking of, I think it's built on a short wheelbase 3 series. Friend wanted to get one, but after seeing is, said he was not impressed, but was taken with the new M3. I think the I looks funny too. Ed 300E On 29/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw an article in our daily paper this morning about a new series 1 BMW that they say is a lot like the old 2002 (is that right? it looks funny) BMW's. Small and light with a big motor and lots of jam. Available in coupe and cabriolet. It looked good. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
Just to keep balance in the universe, I'm going to stick a Ford badge on the 300E tomorrow. ;-) Some ppl just have too much time on their hands. Ed 300E On 29/02/2008, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. http://tinyurl.com/26gdv3 Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
BTW, when I wrote, I filed each end of the wings on the key to reduce width of the required slot, I meant the wings on top part of the metal key itself. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:25:13PM -0800, Kevin Kraly wrote: I have a pacer wagon with a Perkins Diesel in it. What a unique car! Was that a very rare factory option? No. Some navy wrench in El Paso converted it. Has a Ford AOD with an adapter plate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
Isn't it nice that some folks want so badly to have what we've got? Brian On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to keep balance in the universe, I'm going to stick a Ford badge on the 300E tomorrow. ;-) Some ppl just have too much time on their hands. Ed 300E On 29/02/2008, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. http://tinyurl.com/26gdv3 Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel price today
Last fuel purchase was 01/26 @$3.2597 per gallon on the daily driver '85 300D. At my routine 14 miles per day and accumulated 468 miles on the odometer, I figured I'd beat the little reserve warning light and fill today. Price at the pump was $3.699. $0.44 up in a month? When did that happen? I decided to digest that and wait until this evening to fill. I stopped at a station closer into town, expecting perhaps a higher price since it was at a main exit to I-40. Fuel was $3.459 per gallon, $0.24 cheaper. (My Pall Mall non-filters were $4.79 instead of $3.38 so any fuel savings were lost in the convenience of buying cigs at that stop.) So much for driving 30 miles to save a nickle on a loap of bread! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new BMW
The 1 series has been around since 2004 and has received mixed reviews. The biggest complaint has been the price. For what they cost you can get many other better made, better equipped cars. They are cramped and noisy is what I can recall from the reviews. The only real driving force behind sales would seem to be the cachet of the badge on the bonnet Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT We are in trouble
A friend with Delta forwrded this today for amusement: A Washington, DC, airport ticket agent offers some examples of why our country is in trouble! 1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On an airplane!) 2. I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to Cape Town. I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport information, and then she interrupted me with, I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts. Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Cape town is in Africa.² Her response - click. 3. A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, Don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state! (OMG 4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife who asked, Is it possible to see England from Canada? I said, No. She said, But they look so close on the map. (OMG, again!) 5. An aide for a cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between gates to save time. (Ag) 6. An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at8:30 are got to Chicago at 8:33 am. I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois, but she couldn't understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that. 7. A New York lawmaker called and asked, Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom? I said, No, why do you ask? She replied, Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very rude! After putting her on hold for a minute while I looked into it (I was laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno, CA is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a destination tag on her luggage. 8. A Senator's aide called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii. After going over all the cost info, she asked, Would it be cheaper to fly to California, and then take the train to Hawaii?² 9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman who asked, How do I know which plane to get on? I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them. 10. A lady Senator called and said, I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola, Florida. Do I have to get on one of those little computer planes? I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola, Fl. on a commuter plane. She said, Yeah, whatever, smarty! 11. A senior Senator called and had a question about the documents he needed in order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion about passports, I reminded him that he needed a visa. Oh, no I don't. I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those. I double checked and sure enough, his stay required a visa. When I told him this he said, Look, I've been to China four times and every time they have accepted my American Express! 12. A New Mexico Congresswoman called to make reservations, I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York. I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, Are you sure that's the name of the town? Yes, what flights do you have? replied the lady. After some searching, I came back with, I'm sorry, ma'am, I've looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a Rhino anywhere. The lady retorted, Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check your map! So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, You don't mean Buffalo, do you? The reply? Whatever! I knew it was a big animal. Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops B-52's
Hendrik, we lost 2% or 15 of the 750 B-52 sorties in the Hanoi area during those 11 nights of Dec 72, when we finally fought that war as it should have been many years before (if we were going to be involved). Our leaders were expecting to lose 10%. I'm still amazed that we could fly through so much AAA (antiaircraft artillery) and SAM's (surface-to-air missiles) and keep right on going to do it all over again the next night, etc. The AAA reached to only 29k feet, though, and we were at 35k to 37k, but the sky at our altitude was still so full of SAM's plus zig-zagging B-52's, I feel extremely lucky to still be around. Did you see the sky over Baghdad on CNN from the hotel window the first night of Gulf War I? The sky over Hanoi and around us was that in multiples, it seemed. Lucky, Lucky Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rusty?
Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Not trying to be nosy just hoping he is OK Dave H... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/450bd64f/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT We are in trouble
Highly suspicious.they seem to be one of those emails that are made up by someone... Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty?
Dave H... wrote: Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Those are precisely the reasons I call instead of using email. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Somebody Needs This!
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/590913279.html Kaleb? Anybody? This is a bargain... Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
This morning I turned the battery tray around in the derusting bucket. I bought a stronger throttle spring today and installed it. It's able to overcome the stiffness of the new throttle damper. If it should turn out to be too weak I can put it down the middle of the original spring and use them both together. I installed the intake manifold. Much fun trying to figure out where things go. When I tried to install the blowby hosing I found that I was short a piece, so I had to re-use the 'Y' connection piece, at least until I can get another one ordered. Part number 601 016 04 81, there's also a v13 molded into it. The old one is split at each opening so I had to duct-tape it sealed. That's lovely. The installation of the vibration dampening brackets for the injector lines took the most time. Getting those plastic clips on was not easy, and I had to take apart the throttle linkage in order to get everything assembled. I have extra plastic clips left over, too. The rubber bumpers themselves were NLA, but the old ones were still 'live' enough to work. The throttle linkage now works properly, and feels damped due to the hydraulic cylinder. It returns to the idle position properly. I removed the extraneous vacuum plumbing, replacing a three-way splitter with a two-way from the EGR system. One vacuum feed line goes directly to the intake butterfly actuator, the other (through a restricting orifice) goes to the car's interior. Things are pretty neat and tidy under the hood now, without all the extraneous vacuum plumbing. The EGR relay module is nicely accessible behind the battery, it should be easy to remove and operate on if my throttle butterfly engine braking idea ever pans out. I then vacuumed out the battery tray area, and chased the threads on the studs. I re-tapped the nuts too, and put the rusty ones into the bucket with the tray itself. I'll probably re-use them, mostly because I don't have any spares in that style. The car is pretty much ready to start, sans cooling system. I want to do a final bleed on the injectors (the lines to which are only finger-tight) and see if it'll start before I put in the cooling system. If there's a problem I'd need to take it back out again anyway, so no sense potentially wasting work. It's also still too cold to do with only water for coolant, and I don't want to risk wasting my G-05 until I'm sure the car will run. Tomorrow? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new BMW
If it's the car I thinking of, it used a shortened chassis of the 3 series, and the rear axle from the previous model. Some said it handled better than the regular 3, but didn't have the engine options. Ed 300E On 29/02/2008, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 1 series has been around since 2004 and has received mixed reviews. The biggest complaint has been the price. For what they cost you can get many other better made, better equipped cars. They are cramped and noisy is what I can recall from the reviews. The only real driving force behind sales would seem to be the cachet of the badge on the bonnet Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This!
Rick Knoble wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/590913279.html Too bad it is 10 hours away... :( ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 1
The 1 series has been around since 2004 and has received mixed reviews. The biggest complaint has been the price. Not the same car. The '08 1 series is all new and looks to me like it will lure a few 3 series buyers with the 300hp model. Reviewed in most of the new car mags. Well, maybe not MT. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
It was suggested some years ago [magazine article: -IIRC - If the South Had Won the Civil War] that Cuba would be a Confederate state. BillR -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/29/08 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System I know better than to criticize anyone for displaying a rebel flag, although i did find it encouraging that at the Republican YouTube debate most of the candidates excoriated the guy who asked what they felt about the symbolism of that flag. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. I. The South should have won their independence. And Slavery should have been banished back to Hell from whence it came. (Or better yet, never have been instituted here in the first place. Those issues are not [and never were] indistinguishably tied together.) Where is it written in stone that the Union, once formed, cannot be unformed without bloodshed? Consent of the governed, and all that. Had the South won independence I wonder how things would have ultimately turned out. I'm completely confident that slavery would still be long gone, and I wonder if its demise would have gone smoother that way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This!
Wow! Barring any dishonesty, that makes me drool.Brian On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/590913279.html Kaleb? Anybody? This is a bargain... Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This!
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/590913279.html Unless it needs both a new head and a new evaporator, that looks like it could be a steal. Is Sunil still in India? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This!
I lust for a TD . I have a TE but really want a TD. If I only had the money :) Dave H... -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This! Wow! Barring any dishonesty, that makes me drool.Brian On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/590913279.html Kaleb? Anybody? This is a bargain... Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
I don't like your chances much with that sort of camera, I have a Canon A510 and close close ups are pretty hard. Perhaps there are some tips in the operators manual. The Canon is a good mid budget camera, easy to use and pumps out reasonable quality pics. Anyway I guess some of the photo buffs on the list may have some clues on how to get good close up pictures. Hendrik wilton strickland wrote: Hendrik, the camera is my wife's Canon S-410. I've never used it before 'cause my tremor has been so bad for several years 'til recently that I couldn't even HOLD it, much less use it. 'Gonna try it again 'cause it does worry me to have sent out-of-focus photos to such a fine bunch of Mercedes aficionado perfectionists. 'Think I'll back off from the subject next time so the autofocus can do its work. I know it was a light-hearted dig. I do appreciate the critique and am not surprised - actually, fully expected. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
Donald Snook wrote: This is a sin. A Lebaron (wants to be a Mercedes) convertible. Those body kits always seemed silly to me, because a good old R107 cost about the same as the body kit. Now that the old R107s are even cheaper, the body kit makes much less sense now than 15 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
And would cost a lot of money. I saw a program a while back on how they are getting oil out clay up in Canada or somewhere. To make this work the scale of the operation is enormous. Hendrik Royce Engler wrote: Hendrick said. OPEC is very shy of telling exactly how much they have left, so as to stuff the world around. Also China and other parts of the developing world are starting to use up vast quantities of oil. There may well be oil reserves under the oceans but getting at them will require technology that is still beyond us. I suppose it is in the interest of OPEC to not oversupply, cause once their oil runs out it's back to herding camels in the desert. Actually, deep water drilling is getting fairly common. It was new back in 2001 when I worked for Unocal (Now part of Chevron), but Chevron recently drilled a well in 7000 feet of water and 20,000 feet of seabed. That opens up a LOT of area for access. It does take about 10 years to get it drilled and on production. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
Hendrik, You're talking about the tar sands in Alberta. Think demerara sugar but black and stinky. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those body kits always seemed silly to me, because a good old R107 cost about the same as the body kit. Now that the old R107s are even cheaper, the body kit makes much less sense now than 15 years ago. Not to mention that the end result never looks anything like the real thing. The only replica-of-a-real-car body kits I've ever seen that were actually convincing were the ones that used to be made (maybe still are?) for Fieros, to turn them into Ferrari 308s or Countaches. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
The question is if the situation had of been reversed how would the South have reacted? Would they have said in the interest of freedom we'll let the north go on it's own or would they have have gone north with an army to kick some bottom? Hendrik Royce Engler wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. Actually, I do believe I'm a pretty reasonable guy, but I also know that the War of Northern Aggression was not fought by the South to continue slavery. The vast majority of Southerners did not own slaves and did not favor slavery. By the time the North invaded the South, slavery was in decline and would have ended anyway because it didn't make economic sense. No, the war was about the North's tendency to try to dictate to other folks how they were going to run their business, kinda like the revolutionary war was about the British telling the colonists how they were going to run their business...and kinda like liberals think they can tell the rest of us what to think and how we should handle our business. It's about freedom. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
WW2 might well not have happened because Germany might have won WW1 or a better peace might have been reached, with no winner or loser declared and no crippling war payments being forced on Germany, which led to a collapse of the Weimar republic and the rise of the NAZI's. It might well have been a case of because the North is supporting the British and French, the south may well have supported Germany and Austria. Hendrik LarryT wrote: Not sure where I heard it but I was always told the War of Northern Aggression was about States rights. Read the constitution as it regards states rights and you will see how much the federal govt has oversteped the Constitution *BIG* time. Not sure how things woud be now if the south had won - but IMO things would have been *very* different. I hope both N S would have banded together to fight the Nazi's. Without a *United* states the germans would have taken much more time to defeat. All IMO of course. ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is wrong!
Aw, you don't like the VW bug / Rolls Royce deal? Brian On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those body kits always seemed silly to me, because a good old R107 cost about the same as the body kit. Now that the old R107s are even cheaper, the body kit makes much less sense now than 15 years ago. Not to mention that the end result never looks anything like the real thing. The only replica-of-a-real-car body kits I've ever seen that were actually convincing were the ones that used to be made (maybe still are?) for Fieros, to turn them into Ferrari 308s or Countaches. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty?
hilton head, as of yesterday. should be back monday. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Not trying to be nosy just hoping he is OK Dave H... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/450bd64f/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
i grew up in new york city, where we were taught in school that everyone in the south is foaming at the mouth KKK and without Lincoln there would be nothingness. but my family came out of the world of hitler and stalin, so i was trained to recognize crap propaganda back even from when i was a baby. if i had a wax museum, lincoln and FDR would join hitler and stalin in the rogue's gallery. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. Actually, I do believe I'm a pretty reasonable guy, but I also know that the War of Northern Aggression was not fought by the South to continue slavery. The vast majority of Southerners did not own slaves and did not favor slavery. By the time the North invaded the South, slavery was in decline and would have ended anyway because it didn't make economic sense. No, the war was about the North's tendency to try to dictate to other folks how they were going to run their business, kinda like the revolutionary war was about the British telling the colonists how they were going to run their business...and kinda like liberals think they can tell the rest of us what to think and how we should handle our business. It's about freedom. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty?
Did he go to golf? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty? hilton head, as of yesterday. should be back monday. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Not trying to be nosy just hoping he is OK Dave H... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/450 bd64f/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty?
probably. or maybe he went to myrtle beach. you can find him at one of those places. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did he go to golf? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty? hilton head, as of yesterday. should be back monday. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Not trying to be nosy just hoping he is OK Dave H... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/450 bd64f/attachment.gifhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/450bd64f/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280sel, 109
108 spring suspension, 109 air suspension, thats about the only difference mak wrote: Like to know if are there any differences in a 280SEL and a 300SEL . 108.109 the engines may be one ,but other than that? mak - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? D. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: %switches.jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 122 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: switches.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 47977 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 7:50 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty?
That just ain't right Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty? probably. or maybe he went to myrtle beach. you can find him at one of those places. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did he go to golf? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty? hilton head, as of yesterday. should be back monday. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Not trying to be nosy just hoping he is OK Dave H... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/450 bd64f/attachment.gifhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/att achments/20080229/450bd64f/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] here's why you don't want to get little hairs inside your digital slr
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Re: [MBZ] OT We are in trouble
Seems rather one sided in a misogynistic sprt pf way. in the interests of equal time: The current US male US president had no idea that gasoline prices were headed toward $4.00/gallon. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Highly suspicious.they seem to be one of those emails that are made up by someone... Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
A mining engineer on another list said there is ten times the amount of oil in the Middle East contained in the oil shales in Canada and certain U.S. Western states. Now that the price of crude has exceeded a critical price, international oil companies are mining it on a large scale in Canada. I read an article about life in the Canadian mining areas; probably in the Wall Street Journal, the Economist, or the Smithsonian magazine. When the oil shale refineries start producing in large quantities, the price of crude will drop, but never to previous low levels since the cost of extracting oil from shale is considerably more than pumping it, according to the mining engineer. Gerry - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] And would cost a lot of money. I saw a program a while back on how they are getting oil out clay up in Canada or somewhere. To make this work the scale of the operation is enormous. Hendrik Royce Engler wrote: Hendrick said. OPEC is very shy of telling exactly how much they have left, so as to stuff the world around. Also China and other parts of the developing world are starting to use up vast quantities of oil. There may well be oil reserves under the oceans but getting at them will require technology that is still beyond us. I suppose it is in the interest of OPEC to not oversupply, cause once their oil runs out it's back to herding camels in the desert. Actually, deep water drilling is getting fairly common. It was new back in 2001 when I worked for Unocal (Now part of Chevron), but Chevron recently drilled a well in 7000 feet of water and 20,000 feet of seabed. That opens up a LOT of area for access. It does take about 10 years to get it drilled and on production. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This!
If it appears too good to be true, then it is [not true]. Trust me on this On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I lust for a TD . I have a TE but really want a TD. If I only had the money :) Dave H... -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This! Wow! Barring any dishonesty, that makes me drool.Brian On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/590913279.html Kaleb? Anybody? This is a bargain... Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
Don't hold your breath on oil shale. The energy and water requirements to process the shale and recover the oil are too daunting at present. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A mining engineer on another list said there is ten times the amount of oil in the Middle East contained in the oil shales in Canada and certain U.S. Western states. Now that the price of crude has exceeded a critical price, international oil companies are mining it on a large scale in Canada. I read an article about life in the Canadian mining areas; probably in the Wall Street Journal, the Economist, or the Smithsonian magazine. When the oil shale refineries start producing in large quantities, the price of crude will drop, but never to previous low levels since the cost of extracting oil from shale is considerably more than pumping it, according to the mining engineer. Gerry - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] And would cost a lot of money. I saw a program a while back on how they are getting oil out clay up in Canada or somewhere. To make this work the scale of the operation is enormous. Hendrik Royce Engler wrote: Hendrick said. OPEC is very shy of telling exactly how much they have left, so as to stuff the world around. Also China and other parts of the developing world are starting to use up vast quantities of oil. There may well be oil reserves under the oceans but getting at them will require technology that is still beyond us. I suppose it is in the interest of OPEC to not oversupply, cause once their oil runs out it's back to herding camels in the desert. Actually, deep water drilling is getting fairly common. It was new back in 2001 when I worked for Unocal (Now part of Chevron), but Chevron recently drilled a well in 7000 feet of water and 20,000 feet of seabed. That opens up a LOT of area for access. It does take about 10 years to get it drilled and on production. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Gary, you're scaring the customers (some of them anyway). On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i grew up in new york city, where we were taught in school that everyone in the south is foaming at the mouth KKK and without Lincoln there would be nothingness. but my family came out of the world of hitler and stalin, so i was trained to recognize crap propaganda back even from when i was a baby. if i had a wax museum, lincoln and FDR would join hitler and stalin in the rogue's gallery. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. Actually, I do believe I'm a pretty reasonable guy, but I also know that the War of Northern Aggression was not fought by the South to continue slavery. The vast majority of Southerners did not own slaves and did not favor slavery. By the time the North invaded the South, slavery was in decline and would have ended anyway because it didn't make economic sense. No, the war was about the North's tendency to try to dictate to other folks how they were going to run their business, kinda like the revolutionary war was about the British telling the colonists how they were going to run their business...and kinda like liberals think they can tell the rest of us what to think and how we should handle our business. It's about freedom. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty?
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:07:02 -0700 Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That just ain't right And why not? Craig Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty? probably. or maybe he went to myrtle beach. you can find him at one of those places. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did he go to golf? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty? hilton head, as of yesterday. should be back monday. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know, was Rusty around his work today? I never did catch him online and he did not answer an email parts order I requested. Not trying to be nosy just hoping he is OK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator light 126
Thanks Jim , i had assumed there was a resister in parallel to the bulb to prevent the bulb failure leading to charging failure. can the bulb be checked by grounding the D+ wire? regards mak - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator light 126 the 300se generator light is not coming on and there is no charging. Anything to check before replacing the generator ? The bulb itself. Car won't charge if the bulb is burnt out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 7:50 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB - UK Gas Prices
A fair a mount of comment on the List re: the price of gas A gentle reminder that the price here is around 3.93 UK pounds per US gallon . I'll leave you to do the currency conversion Howard Fulford Bath England '89 190E 2.0 l 5 speed manual 171221 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator light 126
I had assumed there was a resister in parallel to the bulb to prevent the bulb failure leading to charging failure. can the bulb be checked by grounding the D+ wire? I believe so. I have never done this. It's probably the alternator itself. It usually is, so prepare yourself! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
